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November 19, 2025 42 mins

Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins discuss the latest developments in the BBC’s ongoing crisis after President Trump threatens a multi-billion dollar lawsuit with: Baroness Tina Stowell, Conservative Peer and former Head of Corporate Affairs at the BBC and the Media Editor at the Sunday Times Rosamund Urwin. Phil Riley, co-founder of Boom Radio, warns that BBC Radio risks becoming an 'orphan asset' unless the BBC rethinks its funding and leadership and Jordan Schwarzenberger, co-founder of Arcade Media and manager of The Sidemen, argues Gen Z won’t pay the licence fee and calls for a creator-led, platform-savvy BBC that can compete in a decentralised media world.

And Ben Winston, producer of The Kardashians, Gavin and Stacey, and the upcoming 2028 Olympic ceremonies talks about his latest project: a Netflix documentary with Ed Sheeran, filmed entirely in one take.

Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Martha Owen

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