The Rock Bottom Data Feed

The Rock Bottom Data Feed

Irreverent yet practical data-focused podcast that isn't a pile of technobabble and repetition of old advice. Our audience is EVERYBODY, because everybody is involved with data. Join us, because when you're here, you're at Rock Bottom.

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October 12, 2026 • 56 mins

In the second half of our conversation with retired CEO Rod Hightower, John and Mark dig deeper into what it means for an executive to trust data. Rod shares hard-earned lessons about recognizing bias, understanding what information actually represents, building trust between business and data professionals, and knowing when to say, "I don't know." We also explore the very real cost of getting data wro...

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What does a CEO really need from data? In this episode, John and Mark sit down with retired CEO Rod Hightower to explore the business side of the data table. Rod talks about the importance of truth and insight, the biases that can get in the way of both, and why data professionals need to understand the business they support.

We also visit the Bit Bucket, a bar that wil...

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What happens when you empty the refrigerator of everything that didn’t quite make it into the last series of the Rock Bottom Data Feed? You make stew. This compilation episode serves up the leftovers from Series 4: behind-the-scenes production conversations, outtakes, extended conversations with guests, and a few stories that were simply too good to leave on the cutting-room floor.

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July 7, 2026 • 45 mins

In this final fourth series episode, John and Mark continue their conversation with Sam Spencer, CEO and co-founder of Aristotle Metadata. The focus this time is an experiment Sam's been running with the Australian government. We'll let Sam give the details, but the short version is that the Australian government spent a whole lot of money on a data initiative but didn't have a whole lot of results to ...

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June 23, 2026 • 45 mins

In this episode of the Rock Bottom Data Feed, John and Mark go half-way around the world, literally, to bring you Sam Spencer, CEO and co-founder of Aristotle Metadata. Drawing on experiences ranging from nursing to public service to entrepreneurship, Sam advocates for a more assertive approach to governance that emphasizes accountability, ownership, and organizational responsibility. The wide-ranging ...

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June 9, 2026 • 35 mins

Christy Crute returns to the Rock Bottom Data Feed to discuss the growing importance of data literacy, critical thinking, and human judgment in an AI-enabled world. In addition to being Professor, Business Analytics at Grove City College, Dr. Crute has also been an executive at multiple Fortune 50 companies. In a wide-ranging conversation, she talks about how metrics can motivate employees, f...

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May 26, 2026 • 43 mins

Who is best to educate corporate executives? How about a college professor who was once a corporate executive herself. John and Mark welcome Christy Crute to the Rock Bottom Data Feed. Former executive at multiple Fortune 50 companies; current Professor, Business Analytics at Grove City College. In the first of our two-part conversation, Dr. Crute shares her observations about how AI is shaping educati...

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May 12, 2026 • 48 mins

John Ladley and Mark Cooper conclude their conversation with Jon Padfield. He's a an engineer turned State Representative, turned business professor, exploring how surveillance, data, AI, and corporate power are reshaping our world and what you can do about it. Check out and join the quarter-million subscribers to his YouTube channel, Business Reform. In this episode of the Rock Bottom Data Feed, Jon gives us more food for thought ...

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April 27, 2026 • 43 mins

Joining John Ladley and Mark Cooper at Rock Bottom is Jon Padfield. He is an Assistant Professor of Business at Indiana University, Columbus, President of the Business Reform Media Group, and proprietor of the very successful Business Reform YouTube channel. In the first half of our conversation with him, he discusses ways that companies collect and use our data that we don't often think about, fully understand, or knowingly agree ...

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April 14, 2026 • 39 mins

In this episode, John Ladley and Mark Cooper conclude their conversation with Tony Mazzarella. They discuss whether hiring a Chief Data Officer will "fix" data issues (hint: it won't), and look at governance as a social and cultural change initiative, not just a data catalog or glossary project. Tony also answers the "two questions" and plays the Famous Game Show.

As always, if you have a suggestion for an artifact to explore in...

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March 31, 2026 • 39 mins

John Ladley and Mark Cooper welcome Tony Mazzarella to Rock Bottom! He just completed a Ph.D. focused on Data Governance, reframing it not as a static control layer but as a dynamic system that connects technology, people, and real-world outcomes. He'll explain all that, and much more, in this episode and the next.

We also have a new Archedataology artifact, Data Poetry Slam, and advice from the 8-Bit Consultants. As always, if ...

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March 20, 2026 • 36 mins

In this episode, we continue our conversation with Stijn Christiaens, co-founder and Chief Data Citizen at Collibra. He talks more about what data really is, and why it's far more than just transactions. From user interactions and system logs to external data sets and entirely new data created by redesigned products, Stijn unpacks the expanding scope of data in modern organizations.

Today we are excited to introduce a new openin...

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March 3, 2026 • 36 mins

John Ladley and Mark Cooper are back with the fourth series of The Rock Bottom Data Feed! We're introducing some new segments; some in this episode and more in upcoming episodes (we would tell you more, but we want them to be a surprise).

Something else that we're trying this series is to do more long-form interviews. Instead of hours long episodes, though, we're splitting each conversation into two episodes. This allows us to ...

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December 31, 2025 • 43 mins

Series Three of the Rock Bottom Data Feed has been an exploration of AI and data. It's a big subject. Sometimes we got talking with our guests and next thing you know we've gone long or ventured into a topic that's beyond the scope of the episode. Never ones to let good conversation go to waste, we've accumulated those bits here. If you haven't already listened to the episodes in this series, go back and listen. If you have already...

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December 1, 2025 • 47 mins

It is our pleasure to welcome to Rock Bottom, Tony Shaw, Founder and CEO of DATAVERSITY, the premiere resource for data education, whether delivered live, recorded, virtual, or in person. It is clear that data is becoming increasingly important for AI success, and in many ways, corporate success. But while data education is also becoming increasingly important, it is still undervalued by too many companies. Keeping up with the stat...

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November 10, 2025 • 35 mins

Nearly a hundred thousand corporate employees have been terminated in mass layoffs this year. Most just in the past few months. And ostensibly because of AI.

We're not convinced.

Our scheduled guest was unexpectedly unavailable (and in case you're worried, we can confirm that he was not replaced by AI), so in this episode, John and Mark discuss these recent events and some of what the future holds. Maybe this batch wasn't t...

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In our first series, Doug Laney introduced us to Datanomics. He is also the author of Data Juice. In this episode he returns to Rock Bottom to go into more detail about the approaches and metrics companies can use to truly treat data as an asset.

To do that, we need to introduce data into the C-Suite. Most companies approach Data Governance through the CIO or CDO, and that has been moderately successful. It's good to have CEO in...

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September 16, 2025 • 51 mins

The Rock Bottom Data Feed gang is back for another series, and for much of this series we will be focused on AI. Just like the internet and Six Sigma, we think it's here to stay. So, what are its ramifications for the data area? How can we make AI work for us, not against us? How can we get something useful from it?

In this episode we welcome Kelle O'Neal and Gregg Loos from First San Francisco Partners. FSFP is a consultancy th...

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September 2, 2025 • 19 mins

Welcome back for this, the third series of the Rock Bottom Data Feed. Previously, John and Mark did a four-part radio play following Nick Guy, Data Detective, as he investigated the death of Consolidated International and the role that Jen AI may have played in its demise. The reception from our listeners was very enthusiastic, so in this special episode we present the full, uninterrupted radio play.

We'd again like to thank The...

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July 15, 2025 • 40 mins

In this very special twentieth episode of the Rock Bottom Data Feed, John Ladley and Mark Cooper welcome John Ladley and Mark Cooper to the show. Two blokes chatting at the kitchen table about data as anthropology and AI. Isn't that what everybody talks about at the kitchen table? You'll also hear your hosts answering the two questions asked of every Rock Bottom Data Feed guest and playing the famous game show.

We'd also like to...

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