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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning folks, Good morning everyone, Good morning, it's some time.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Good morning class.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentleman.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Introducing sixty one guard from Brighton, Illanois and former high
school basketball stand What in the hell does that mean?

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Don't jumped any conclusions.

Speaker 5 (00:20):
Not a god, You've got to lower lower your expectations.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes and former I'll just openly
admit I'm a fat, out of shaped X athlete.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Five seven guard and a former college water polo and
national champions.

Speaker 6 (00:41):
A lot of useless crap up here.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
Ashley Ryan.

Speaker 7 (00:49):
What do you buy to lay.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Look Casino Resort and quil Sea The Greek Draft King
sports book where the action never stopped.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Hey you Tuesday morning, Welcome into the radio show. Ashley
is dancing earlier. We're really well done. Nice, nice rhythm.
It's gonna get you eventually.

Speaker 6 (01:24):
It's always done.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yeah, but for the moment, so good up.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
Ashley Ryan, Bucket, Jacobson, Chuck Bowell, with you as we
get started here on this Tuesday morning. We're gonna take
it till ten o'clock. I can't remember such a just
all encompassing sort of sports.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Evening like we had last night.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
I mean, we've had some really busy times here as
of late, crazy busy, but in terms of just like
one night of viewing where I think I watched every
single sport in the world last night at some point,
really yeah, got it all in, I think, so. I
mean a lot, a lot of a soccer match. I
watched a lot of college basketball, even though I couldn't

(02:04):
watch you dub yeah, but watched a lot of college basketball.
Watched Ian Furness on the cnight. He was outstanding. He
felt like he flopped, you know, like I'm just rusty,
but he was outstanding. That was a lot of fun,
So great job Ian last night on the Kraken Call.

(02:24):
On the television side, obviously, there was Monday Night Football
last night. There was all sorts of conversation about the
college football playoff show, which will the first one will
be today. There was MLB Awards, so I watched a
little bit of MLB tonight. I think there was the
cricket finals. So I soaked a lot of it up.

(02:47):
It was awesome. Probably long wait to go Thailand.

Speaker 6 (02:50):
Nice.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yeah, Rugby. I just played that in the backyard with neighbors.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
They didn't know I was playing. No, you just started
smashing them, Start smashing them around.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
They walking me next time, we're walking their dogs and
kids and everything else.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
And I just went out there, you know with you know.

Speaker 8 (03:10):
Rugby, throw the ball to catch it and you tackle them,
rolled it to them and then you're like, get up.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Now, push it between your leg right right, your wife.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
You can't pass it forward. Idiot did a lot of
that forward. Yeah, yeah, rugby. This isn't football.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
That's good. You dove in all the way. I mean,
head first, I mean not only watching everything, but then partaking.
Oh yeah, good for you.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Yeah, I just got caught up in it. I'm like,
all sports are being played right now at the exact
same time, and coach Bucky was there to coach everybody
at every sport.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, well you welcome, He like he wanted to say,
you're welcome.

Speaker 9 (03:46):
That's that Monday November feeling right there, and you just
get all that. You're like, you know what, it's a
Monday in November.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yeah, all kidding aside, though you ever like had did
I like that?

Speaker 10 (03:57):
No?

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Sports? I mean, there wasn't like anything you had to watch.

Speaker 9 (04:01):
No, but really at one point I even remember being like, oh, Sounders,
that's right, put that on like it was I guess.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
We had to watch that.

Speaker 9 (04:08):
Yeah, but there was, but there was like it, and
then it was okay, now that this is over, now
let's look for the UB game.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
And then we couldn't find it.

Speaker 9 (04:15):
But you know it was you're trying to and I
have three televisions and we had to cycle things.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
That wasn't enough. It wasn't three televisions is a joke
for what you needed.

Speaker 6 (04:24):
Last year, I felt like a fool.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
I have only two in my TV.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
You're an idiot.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
I was like a monkey trying to operate a spaceship.

Speaker 9 (04:35):
Just the remote, smoky like me, Oh gosh, there's no
words for you.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Yeah, what are you a pioneer? What are you some
sort of caveman over there with you're one remote? Probably
churn butter, Yeah, yeah, that would you kill an antelope
with your one remote and then use it to try
to turn television?

Speaker 4 (04:56):
You nailed it, man?

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Are you in the stone yeah you are.

Speaker 8 (05:01):
Yeah, well, I obviously did not get to partake in
as many things as you guys.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Then I did watch some college.

Speaker 8 (05:06):
Hoops, obviously, watch the Monday night football game, watched the
soccer match, and then I think that's about it.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Didn't get any cracking in.

Speaker 8 (05:14):
Oh, cracking cracking in too as well, Sorry about that.
But other than that high line, I didn't I was
going to catch that DVRD it. That's the one where
they whipped the ball like one hundred and fifty miles
an hour.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Yeah yeah, high line yeah right right, people put in
on it.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
Yeah they do.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if there was
really anything else that I watched.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Well, but there wasn't anything that wasn't available. As it
turns out, every single sport was participated in last night,
So there are a lot of those. I'm carrying a
hook basket, hook sports. I'm not sure what they're all called.
High line is one in the crossed?

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah another yeah, crossed. Yeah, it's a good one.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
I just choked.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
All right, Well, all of that's all of that, aside
all of those sports to watch actual games, and yet
the big story going into today is a trade deadline.
How about that we didn't enough As if we didn't
have enough, Yes, the National Football League's trade deadline is today, uh,
and so we will be monitoring it throughout the course

(06:25):
of the morning. Of course, the deadline is hit at
one o'clock Pacific time, so we probably won't have the
peak activity on our morning show, but I would imagine
we'll get a trade or.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Two that will be announced.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
There already was one this morning involving the Cincinnati Bengals
and the Dallas Cowboys, which I find kind of weird
that Dallas and Cincinnati seemed to be in the same
boat and one of them decided to buy an overpriced
linebacker after getting destroyed by the Cardinals last night, and

(06:59):
then the other team, even though they're losing, they actually
are pretty potent offensively, and the only thing that's wrong
with them is their defense. They decided to trade a
starting linebacker today just to make that side of the
ball a little worse. So, I mean, I kind of
get it. If you're Cincinnati and just looking at riding
on the wall and you don't think Burrow's going to

(07:20):
be back, what are we doing here? Let's move on
from a high priced big contract linebacker who's clearly not
getting the job done, and we have a taker in Dallas.
But on the other hand, it seems strange these two
seem to be in the exact same boat. We're not
going to give up on making the playoffs and going
on a run, but right now we do not look
like playoff teams, and yet they swung a trade overnight.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Strange. Yeah, I don't holeheartedly understand it. I mean, the
Bengals one like that.

Speaker 8 (07:48):
I can see where they're thinking, boy, this is really
going to be an uphill battle. But then again, they
also don't have anybody running away with the division still
a couple games back of Pittsburgh. And yet I mean,
I don't know when Burrow's to be back, because you
we know, like how long he's supposed to be out.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
I thought he was out for the season, but they
were saying during the Bengals broadcast Sunday that, man, if
we can hang in here until Burrow gets back, So
apparently that's not as long as I thought it was.
So there's a chance he's coming back this year. Yeah,
that's kind of where I thought it was too.

Speaker 9 (08:17):
And so if you can just move mill around, teenth
is his estimated return date according to what they've put
on Fantasy Football, that's late.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's really late.

Speaker 9 (08:25):
It's just if they were to make It's basically only
if you have a chance to make the playoffs, then
you're going to try to play him to push that
over the top.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yeah, this team right now has got to get the
work done. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
I mean, if Joe Burrow comes back, then maybe you
got a much better shot at winning in the playoffs.
But the team that you see on the field right
now that keeps blowing fourth quarter massive leads, that's.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
The team that has to get the job done.

Speaker 10 (08:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, and yeah.

Speaker 8 (08:48):
To me, it's like, because the Steelers are leading their
division at five and three, you're only two games back,
so it's like, okay, it's it's conceivable. Yet you haven't
shown that you can stop anybody. Jamar Chase was walking
out of that game yesterday before yesterday and just kind
of muttered, just one stop. Like so obviously there's even

(09:10):
tension inside the locker room about the offense, thinking, you know,
we should be able to maybe win when we score
thirty five points or whatever. You could maybe just make
one stop at the end of the game. So that,
but at the same time, it's like, I don't know
for sure why they would stop. Why would you keep
Trey Hendrickson if there would be a taker out there
for him, because you haven't obviously wanted to sign him

(09:31):
to the big long term deal. He is on the
other side of thirty and so I mean, I would
think that they continue down the path of kind of
getting rid of people, even though to some degree it's
like you might still have a chance because you're the
only one that has a division that's led with five wins.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
Yeah, well, it was a I mean, I guess it's
not officially done between Dallas and Cincinnati today, but it's
Logan Wilson. If I haven't mentioned the name interior linebacker
who is on a pretty long term contract that he's
not worth a seventh round pick. So that's desperation from
Dallas and at Cincinnati saying let's get out from underneath
this contract. He's not helping us defensively anyway.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
So that was the deal.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
So that's the first one that gets us started here
this morning, and of course they're gonna be a handful more.
The big question for us is will John Schneider participate
you know, Mike Holmgren was pretty definitive yesterday and Monday
morning quarterback when I said I'm sure John's going to
do something, he goes I don't agree with that. So
Mike's got his kind of ear to the ground over there.

(10:30):
He's got a lot of people that he knows and
probably chats with, so he might know more than I do.
It just doesn't feel I mean, John makes a trade
almost every trade deadline, and with a team humming like
this at six and two, and certainly not without holes,
not without flaws, even if you want to look at
the depth, I mean, you're gonna have a lot more

(10:52):
injuries before the season comes to a close, and so
if you feel thin anywhere, you might want to address
that while you have the opportunity here in the next
few hours. So you know, he's working the phones. That's
just John Schneider. That is the organization. I think for
sure he's making some kind of deal today. But coach
Holmgren kind of cut me off yesterday and said I

(11:15):
wouldn't be so sure. They're smart ass, maybe it's not
going to happen, So.

Speaker 8 (11:20):
You know, you take it from that, Well, I don't
know what I don't know what they will do. Obviously,
nobody does unless you're probably over in that room. And
yet I would think that you like what you got
and you also recognize could we get better. I mean,
the Rams have already made a couple moves. I mean,
I would think that you're in a highly contested division

(11:40):
at this point. I don't think you can just sleep
and count that the Niners are out, even though they're
crazy injured. Maybe they don't do any sort of all
in type of moves because they have so many guys
that they're they're missing because of injury, and they're just
hoping that they can get those guys back or some
of those guys back. But the Rams are kind of
flying in right now. And while yeah, you're in first

(12:02):
place at this point in time, we will see how
that shakes out when they play each other.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
That'll be a big game. Not this week, but next week.

Speaker 8 (12:09):
I would think that you want to kind of keep
pace with those that you're contending for the division with,
you know, where you don't necessarily have to do the
blockbuster deal. You could, you could go out and do
something big and make a big splash, But I would
still think you're wanting to shore up just wherever you
think there's a weakness, whether it's depth or or you know,
right guard or whatever it might be that you feel like, well,

(12:30):
we could definitely upgrade somewhere or add to our depth.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
And yet all the rumors have been about whether or
not they're going to sell, and it's not really sell.
It's not the Seahawks saying I'm not sure if we're
in this. The Seahawks know that they're in this, and
they they actually feel that they're more of a championship
contender than probably we do in the in the Seattle
sports media, even the fan base.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
I think they really do believe in this team.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
And yet everything we've heard is about them moving Areek
Woolan or a boy a Mafe before to the deadline today,
and those feel like sell moves, even though they're not.
Those would be moves of we don't really like the
fit here anymore. And and Wolan's leaving after the season

(13:21):
free agency, and so maybe this is the time to
get something for two guys that really aren't in our
plans beyond this year, and maybe maybe not that much
in our plans right now. But to me, you can't
make either of those moves, much less both of those
moves unless you have shored up the depth that that

(13:46):
they'll create a hole in. I think Riek Wolan, I
would understand why you move on from him. He's making
too many big mistakes. But cornerback depth can disappear in
an instant. I mean, Rec Wolland was supposed to be
benched going into Sunday Night's game against Washington, and what happened.
Jackson Job gets a concussion and all of a sudden,

(14:07):
you gotta go to Wreek Wolan, you know, within plays
of the game on Sunday night, And so without addressing
how you're going to replace those guys. And I wouldn't
put it past John Schneider to have four trades up
his sleeve, but it seems awful late in the process
to announce four different trades to me, if you're gonna

(14:29):
make moves, if you're gonna move Mafey and Woolan, you
also have to make counter moves to make sure that
you get a pass rusher back and cornerback depth back.
And I don't put it past John Schneider to be
that active, but it seems Ashley very late in the process.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
For that to click in.

Speaker 9 (14:46):
Well, yeah, especially like the big moves that we were
wondering like, ooh, could he pull that off? Or would
he or not even wondering that we were saying fantasizing about, right,
and so Miles Garrett, Yeah that was a fantasy.

Speaker 6 (14:58):
Yeah, so I said fantasizing about.

Speaker 9 (14:59):
But like anything like that, Yeah, I think you're far
too late to come up with anything like that. And
at this point it does seem like you, as you said,
you are humming along, So it almost seems like the
safe thing is to just keep if it ain't broke.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right, and if
you're if you've got a good rhythm going and this
team is, you know, humming along, you don't you don't

(15:21):
need to mess with it.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, you don't have to.

Speaker 8 (15:24):
But I mean, because of like what you just said,
the fact that depth is so important. We were just
talking a lot last week about how how much percentage
do you put into the health part of it? And
yet it's inevitable you're not going to go the rest
of this, the second half of the season without having
somebody of importance. Now you don't have a crystal ball
so you can't say, boy, I wish we would have

(15:44):
known Ernest Jones might get rolled his leg rolled up
on and so it'd be nice to have a backup,
a better back up there, or however you might feel
about any certain position, but you can do what you can,
do whatever you can to just think, Okay, we don't
like the depth of this position. Even if it's not
some crazy game changing move, there's still is moves you

(16:06):
can make that are just kind of all right. Maybe
we're giving away a seventh round pick in next year's draft,
but we feel better about this year because of it.
I mean, I think you know, to some degree, obviously
a seventh round pick can turn into something, but more
often than not, it's not going to change. Well, it's
definitely next None of next year draft picks are going
to change this year's projecting projection. And you're you found

(16:28):
yourself sitting in a really good spot. So I think
that there could be it could be a contingent type
thing where you maybe have a deal where this I
want this guy, but if I can't pull the trigger
on that until I have this guy gone, or vice versa,
where you could have a couple different deals in motion,
but you're waiting on the other end of it to
be short up.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
He's got to do something.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
It can't start.

Speaker 9 (16:51):
Yeah, that's the only reason that makes me think there
will be something, because it's like he's just over there
itching you know it.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Yeah, it'd be like, you know, George Michael at a
stubble convention and he decided to shave that. You know,
that's just not gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
Yeah, He's like George Michael going to a tight pants
party and showing up with baggy jeans.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
That ain't happening. Oh no, you're out of place, Bud. Yeah. Yeah.
So John Schneider is going to do something.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
We'll find out today, of course, and we'll try to
forecast it with our Seahawks insider as well. So let's
find out what is on tap for today's show.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
What's on? What's on?

Speaker 4 (17:37):
All right?

Speaker 5 (17:37):
Deadline's at one o'clock today. So Greg Bell, who decided
not to be on the show yesterday, we could have
used some information yesterday. Greg will join us today at
one o or see me seven O five.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Almost said one O five. Uh, that would be.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
After the deadline seven O five. Greg Bell will be
joining us this morning to see what he's heard on
his flight back from d C. Monday night football, the
Arizona Cardinals won over the Dallas Cowboys twenty seven to seventeen.
I thought it was going to be more high scoring too, Ashley.
I don't think you.

Speaker 11 (18:08):
I don't think you should feel bad even though you
are terrible. Yeah, they are really bad.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Well, I think Arizona is better with Jacoby Prissette. Yeah,
all of a sudden lot we'll play Factor fiction at
seven thirty five today. And yes, the Cardinals seem to
have a decision to make before their next game, which
happens to be against the Seahawks on Sunday. Is it
gonna be Jacoby Brissett leading this team going forward? Or

(18:37):
is it gonna be Kyler Murray? And so it's one
of the big it might be the biggest question right
now in the National Football League. Yeah, is whether or
not Arizona is turning away from Kyler Murray. And wouldn't
it be something if it happened this week as we're
getting ready to face them for the second and final
time this season. Dan Quinn shouldered the blame, all of it,

(18:58):
one hundred percent of the blame. For the Jade and
Daniel's injury that took place a Sunday night after the
game was already decided.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
I think that's a head coach trying to do his
job of just falling on the sword. I think there's
certainly an argument for having Jayden Daniels out at that moment,
But as we discussed quite a bit yesterday, I don't
think it's that unusual. Even Ryan Clark said it last night.
I never played in a game with the Steelers where
we took Ben Roethlisberger out in the fourth quarter because

(19:28):
we were losing. Never, and so I don't I think
it's unnecessary that he takes so much heat for this,
because I think a lot of head coaches are keeping
their quarterback in there.

Speaker 8 (19:39):
Yeah, I do too, And yet when I heard him
say that, I just thought, that's just the that's just
a good head coach move, right, that's kind of what
you do. You showed it to blame if all of
a sudden something's going to come out, you don't want to.
He would never deflect and be like, well, I think
Jayalen Daniels wanted to be in there, like you wouldn't
you're just not going to shove it off if you

(20:00):
just say, okay, I'll take the heat whatever I mean.
He if he's rectified in the locker room, if Jaden
Daniels isn't saying to him, dude, why the hell was
I in there? If he's not saying it, then the
rest of it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what any
of the noises on the outside. I think it was
just a good move in leadership.

Speaker 6 (20:16):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Sounders win four to two over Minnesota United. Of course,
Brian Schmetzer came up with a game plan to crack
that conservative approach that Minnesota takes.

Speaker 6 (20:27):
Four goals, Yes, Minnesota goals.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
Doing like the math to say hockey for example, that's
like four thousand goals.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
Yeah, wow, yeah, it really is.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
They doubled up Minnesota United to tie the series at
one game apiece. Game three or match three will be
Sunday at one o'clock in Minnesota to decide who advances.
Obed Vargas had two of the four goals for the Sounders.
That's like two thousand goals, cracking one over the Blackhawks
three to one. The final ever fits You will join
us today at eight thirty to discuss it. The Cracking

(21:02):
are six two and four on the young season. It's
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You'll listen for that audio sounder every single hour. Once
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Wait a minute, what is our number? Two six six
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Speaker 4 (21:25):
Tenth caller will do it every hour.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
You dub won their first college basketball game of Danny
Sprinkle's second year at the Helm, ninety four to fifty
over Arkansas Pine Bluff. Heinz Steinbach scored twenty one points
in the game. I know he sounds like an assassin
and a die hard movie, but he's actually a really
good freshman big man. Twenty one points for Steinbach in

(21:47):
the game. The team will place Denver on Thursday. The
Kougs lost to Idaho last night to start their season
eighty three to eighty one. But the night in college
basketball one hundred and sixty nine games, all the talk
was about this freshman class that was on display yesterday several.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Of them putting on the exciting shows.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Cal and Dan are finalists for major awards this Major
League Baseball season. We'll talk about Dan being named Manager
of the Year finalists and of course Cal being named
MVP finalists later on in the show. Meanwhile, free agency
has begun already. The hot Stove season is here, whether
you're ready or not. And tonight the College Football Playoff Show,

(22:28):
the first official unofficial college football Playoff rankings will be
announced on the Worldwide Leader. We'll talk to Rick Neuheisel
about it today at nine o'clock. We'll talk about it
amongst ourselves next on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
How's one baralo rusnak? First part was one?

Speaker 5 (22:55):
Now two?

Speaker 7 (22:55):
Well got the U states? What steps stay?

Speaker 5 (22:59):
Second? Well they even start?

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Who uses?

Speaker 7 (23:02):
What has Martin Bannick able to drop deepen with the header?
That's a way, don't you know?

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Getting walkeep b.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
Out of the pouch heavy times, Macapa tucks away the time,
the hens on the dustock and it's Jody Bars who
punches at home? Little bed Vargas one go score to
another finding Joan of Morris, this is a good looking
me and a fast Roy Jimmy Masonski one on the dunstop.

(23:37):
Well the Settlers through the run and go score then
foot your trump. There has certainly been the story in
this series for the Sounders most of the season.

Speaker 12 (23:50):
Picks run from drop the ship's up, HARKing we He said,
I'm like, it's Fagas that should set the deal bucket.

Speaker 5 (24:09):
He can't even dream. It's Chuck, it's Bucky, it is Ashley.
Good Tuesday morning to you. Congratulations to the mad scientists.
You knew he'd come up with the right game plan
against Minnesota United, trying to take the air out of
the ball, and what happened. The Sounders airrupt for four
goals last night and went at four to two to

(24:30):
even up the series. I didn't look this up. Everybody knows.
I'm not a huge soccer fan, but I'm pretty sure
this is the truth highest scoring soccer game ever. I think.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
So, yeah, four to two. You might want to give
that a google.

Speaker 10 (24:44):
Is that right?

Speaker 5 (24:45):
Maybe off close?

Speaker 8 (24:46):
Maybe off a goal five, at least off by a bunch.
It did look like it was gonna be an absolute blowout.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (24:54):
At first it close, yeah, and then they kind of
let up a little bit there.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
I had a couple of easy ones go in.

Speaker 8 (25:01):
Then it was it kind of felt like, even though
we had a one goal lead there, for most of
the second half, it felt like they were gonna cough
it up. For some reason, I felt more nervous even
though we were ahad.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
H, Yeah, that's soccer.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
He'll do that to you.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
Well, that's me, Seattle sports. You could be ahead and
you're not safe.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
That's true. That's way too too soon. Too soon, Yeah,
too soon.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
Ovid Vargas had two goals in the game, two of
the four four to two. The series even at one
a piece, and so they will play the third and
deciding match this Sunday at one o'clock, and of course
Minnesota has earned the right to host that game. I
suppose Cracking one over the Blackhawks three to one last night,
so they've gone five games with at least one point.

(25:44):
They are six two and four under Lane Lambert in
his first season, and last night a nice convincing went
over the Blackhawks three to one. Everett will join us
today at eight thirty and it is a cracking ticket Tuesday,
so be listening every hour for that sounder. Your chance
to win a pair of tickets for an upcoming cracking game.
The college basketball season got started yesterday with one hundred

(26:04):
and sixty nine college basketball games being played. Dub played
the last one of the night and won by forty
four over Arkansas Pine Bluff ninety four to fifty the
final there. They'll take on Denver on Thursday and then
Baylor on Sunday, so they will have a really stiff
test before the week comes to a close. Coog's lost
their season opener to Idaho eighty three to eighty one.

(26:28):
College football, the college football rankings will come out playoff
rankings for the first official time tonight. Rick new Issaw
will join us at nine o'clock to discuss that Husky's
getting ready to go to Wisconsin and take on the Badgers.
Cal Rawley and Dan Wilson were both named award finalists,
and I'm talking about for major awards. Yeah, these are

(26:49):
the biggies. Cal for the MVP and Dan for Manager
of the Year. Free agency is underway, Hot stove season
is here and around out your frost brewed cors like
chews chill headlines. Of course, there's news from the National
Football League. The Cardinals defeated the Cowboys twenty seven to
seventeen last night on Monday Night Football. They have a

(27:09):
decision to make on Jacoby Brissett or Kyler Murray to
start for them against the Seahawks on Sunday and their
next game, and the NFL trading deadline is today at
one o'clock. To talk more about these juicy topics, it's
Greg Bell. We also wanted to wish you a happy
birthday and see what you wanted from the morning show
for your birthday. Happy birthday day Light.

Speaker 13 (27:32):
Thank you, thank you, they appreciate that. A great night
when with my family when I get home. If I've
ever mentioned, I think we mentioned on this show. We
live a long way from the East Coast.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
You mentioned it a time or two.

Speaker 13 (27:46):
Yeah. I was up at three am Seattle time yesterday
to catch a fly. I basically went straight from the
stadium to the night at East Coast night games, you
gotta stay about three o'clock in the morning by the
time you get uber back to downtown DC four o'clock.
Got to be at the airport at six for a
flight out. Picked up my bags at the hotel, didn't

(28:07):
break much on the sheets, and we went so that's
how he's coast goes. Yeah, we lived a far far away.
Sorry I missed yesterday, but yeah, last airlines wouldn't let
me talk to him.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Well, Pop, sorry, that was our birthday gift to you.
You didn't have to tell.

Speaker 13 (28:21):
I appreciate that. Yeah, that ok it, thank you.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
All right, Well we do have a lot to discuss.
Let's just talk about the game Sunday night. I mean,
how impressed were you with the Seahawks blowout of the
Washington Commanders.

Speaker 10 (28:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (28:35):
I got the failing into the week and then certainly
in the weekend once they got to Washington, that that
was going to be a blowout. And I don't often
think the Seahawks are going to blow teams out. I
just don't think they're definitively better than a lot of teams.

Speaker 10 (28:45):
They're good, but.

Speaker 13 (28:46):
They're not definitively better than most. But I turned to
my Sean Dugard athletic next to me in the press box,
I said, Mike, this is gonna be a boat race.
He and I actually agreed. The Commanders are reeling, especially
on defense. We mentioned the starters that are out injured.
They have big holes in the secondary wide open. I
mean everybody was open for the Seahawks, not just Jackson.

(29:07):
Smith and Jigby are a Royal for the touchdown, Horton
for two touchdowns, guys just Roaman free in that secondary,
and they had no pass rush to affect Sam Donald
at all. So you can really I mean the Saints
game in Week three when they are up thirty eight
to three in the first half, that's the only other
game in the last several years that the Seahawks were
this dominant this early right away. So it was lopsided.

(29:32):
But the team they played is flawed. And I know
the Seahawks six and two first place, winning her six
last seven, all of that, Mike McDonald, third's coach in
NFL history to win eleven of his first twelve road games,
all of that. But I want to say again, none
of this matters until they beat the Rams and the
forty nine ers because they're not going to the playoffs.

(29:54):
They're not winning the division, meaning they're not going to
have home playoff games until they do that. And in
two weeks they get to LA in Englewood and we'll
start seeing how real this is.

Speaker 8 (30:03):
Yeah, well, I agree, you got to measure yourself against
those that have been kind of the cream of the
crop in the division as of late, and yet I
don't know for sure if the home playoff game part
is quite as important. It doesn't feel like, at least
for Mike McDonald might be like, yeah, we kind of
want a wild card. But I mean, ultimately to just
staying on last week's game. I mean, Sam Donald, Yes,

(30:26):
a bunch of guys out for them, and they're year
it's a better team, and yet he still went out
there and it was pretty much impeccable. I mean, is
that one of the better halfs, at least the first
half that you've seen a Seahawks quarterback play.

Speaker 13 (30:40):
Yeah. I The last time I covered a game with
a quarterback that good was Rich Gannon in Pittsburgh on
a Sunday night game in two thousand and two. That's
how long ago it was. The Raiders through sixty five
times that night, sixty five of the first sixty six
plays or runs, and Gannon had on like twenty eight
of twenty, but seventeen for seventeen three hundred and thirty

(31:04):
at the time, two hundred and thirty yards and four
touchdowns in the first half, sixteen for sixteen Darnald After game,
we asked him when the last time he went seventeen
for seventeen started game. He said maybe high school at
San Clemente High School and so cayl before he went
to USC. The players, the coaches, they were blown away.
After I wrote in my game story about the superlatives,

(31:28):
Leonard Williams said the defense on the sideline was just
standing there in amazement. Tory Horton called him a hell
of a quarterback who's on fire. Mike McDonald said, he's
just ridiculous right now, the accuracy of getting the ball
out of the decision making. But let's remember he was
not doing those things against Houston. Just the week before

(31:49):
he had the Zack fumble in the end zone when
he held onto the ball too long. He said that
was his fault. So he's not perfect, but he was
perfect in the first half. Sunday Night to your westin Bucky.
You can't play it's impossible to play better, Yeah than
Sam Donald did in the first half and twenty eight
nothing game over.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
Yeah, amazing stuff. Greg Bel's with us our Seahawks insider.
Of course, you can follow Greg at thenewstreamune dot com.
His coverage of the Seahawks and at g Bell Seattle
on x Well, if there was one downside for the
Seahawks roster coming out of that game is that Ernest
Jones left midway through the contest, and there's just some

(32:28):
questions about just how serious that knee injury.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
What's the update.

Speaker 13 (32:33):
Well, Mike McDonald said he had no updated yesterday, that
Jones was getting tests on that knee and that he
will probably have more on Wednesday. But I will tell
you this, and this is helpful. This is when it's
good to go to the games on the road. And
I don't know if you saw this on the television broadcast,
but I was watching through the binoculars on the sideline.
By the way, that's the worst press box. Daniel Snyder
hates the Media's hates the DC media, so he put

(32:54):
the press box low corner end zone. I might as
well have been in the parking lot, so I couldn't
see a lot, but I couldn't see the sideline.

Speaker 10 (33:03):
The game's not played.

Speaker 13 (33:04):
I had a good view of that, and Ernest Jones
was jumping up and down on that supposedly very injured
knee in the second half and was the biggest cheerleader
on the sideline.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
He was on the edge of the.

Speaker 13 (33:16):
Sideline and almost intercepted a pass with Greek woman. The
woman broke up on third down. He looked okay. He
was running up and down the field running after interceptions.
He didn't look I mean, you would think if someone
who was really seriously injured, he would probably be sitting
out on the back of the sideline on the bench,
and he was the opposite of that. So that's a

(33:37):
good sign that he's not severely injury. I ask after
the game, has it looked like you might miss a
game or two? McDonald said that was possible, but they
still needed some more tests to be done. But just
judging anecdotally from the second half of what I saw
on the sideline, I don't think he's gonna be had
a long time.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Gee.

Speaker 8 (33:53):
Josh Job ended up getting concussed with some I think
it was some friendly fire that he ended up getting
hit by his own guy.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
But I am wondering if.

Speaker 8 (34:01):
How he's going, how he's progressing possibly and if that
changes maybe some things that they were thinking about doing
today is considering it's a trag deadline.

Speaker 13 (34:11):
Yeah, Rieke Wollen's got twenty two lives, like two and
a half times more than a cat does. The injury
to Job makes Woolan. They need him, and they will
keep Wollan engaged and he will feel needed because every
time they're about to bench him, something happens. And he
was benched at the start of the game in Washington.
They used him as a dimeback for about four snaps

(34:32):
in the first half, and then Josh Job runs into
Tayo Katta and his concussom done, and they need Woolin
to play corner. And the way concussions go, everyone's different.
Willan himself had a concussion a couple of weeks ago
that he missed a game for, so it's possible Job
won't play Sunday against Arizona, and that would put Riek

(34:53):
Willan back in the starting lineup opposite of Devin Witherspoon,
with Nick Even Warry in the middle. That's Nickel. The
game began in Washington, as I thought it would even Worry.
They're not taking him out of Nickel. He's been too
good there. So they had Witherspoon and Job as the
outside corners with Emon Warrey in the middle. But they
were on pace in that game guys to play more
nickel than i've seen I mean, excuse me, more dime

(35:15):
six defensive backs than i've seen McDonald play in two years.
Because Wolan was coming in in the very first series
on third and long and the next third and long
in the second Commander series dime.

Speaker 10 (35:26):
Again.

Speaker 13 (35:27):
They rarely played dime, but they were going to go
dime a lot against Washington until Job got hurt. So
if Job doesn't come back, they will put Woven in.
And I don't think he's going to be traded. I
don't think he's gonna be traded anyway. If you're the
sixth best cornerback on the team, there's not a strong
market for somebody to come get you and give up
something the Seahawks would want to get take to trade him.

(35:50):
Boy Mafe to me is a more likely target, as
I mentioned last week, more attractive at a more coveted
position of edge rusher. His just production has been so
low this season that I can't see a team giving
up anything that the Seahawks would want to take for
him either today, and yet.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
I can't imagine getting through this deadline with a season
going as well as it's going without John Schneider doing
something before one o'clock today. So are you getting any
read as to what he might add to this football
team before the deadline?

Speaker 13 (36:19):
Well, he's looking where I said he'd look, and I've
been told that guard and the interior defensive line is
what they're targeting. And then I got asked on another
show last week about Wyatt Teller from Cleveland, thirty one
years old guard. His contract is an't as soon as
you'd see a contract ending. That's the guys that get
traded right at the deadline, because then you become rental

(36:41):
players for the team to acquire them, and you're hoping
the team that chips them off you can steal a
draft pick from somebody. You aren't going to resign at
the end of the year anyway. I will tell you
this about why tell her they if they wanted to
go that route, They've got half the locker room. The
Seahawks do that they're going to have to smooth over
because Wyatt Teller is still public enemy number one in
that locker room for what he did to Chennan Wosu

(37:03):
in the preseason game in twenty twenty four summer. The
chop block in the third preseason game. There are a
lot of dudes, including Mike McDonald, who did not think
that was kosher. And you mentioned the name why Teller.
To this day of the Seahawks buck room and the
defensive players and nuos who has loved in there, they
don't like him. So mcsnyder would have to go into

(37:24):
that room and do a cell job to pull that off.
I don't think you could do that. I hear Evan
Neil from the Giants. Evan Neil has been inactive for
four weeks from the Giants offensive line. If you watch
the Giants offensive line and you're not playing for it,
you're not very good. He was a right tackle for them.
He was a seventh overall pick in twenty twenty two.

(37:45):
The Giants pass actually passed on Charles Cross and took
Evan Neel instead, and that's how the Seahawks got Charles Cross.
If you're benched by the Giants offensive line, you're probably
not worth playing for the Seahawks offensive line. I don't
think they would make that trade either. That would really
surprise me. Having said all that, they're trying on everything.
They've called the Raiders a couple times about Max Crosby

(38:08):
I don't think Pete Carroll and the regime there would
trade Crosby at this point, but if that somebody like
that became available, we'll see. It wouldn't shock me if
they don't get anything done at this point.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
But they're trying overarching.

Speaker 8 (38:24):
I mean, when it comes to the run game, you've
talked a lot about how that needs to kind of
the need to figure that out, and yet to some degree,
the way in which they looked against a subpar team
in Washington, I'll give them that. The way in which
the run game looked, it's still it's not clicking. And
yet they first whatever reason, they can figure out a
way to go out there in twelve personnel. They look heavy,

(38:46):
look like they're going to run, They run it enough
that it has to be respected, and then the passing
game just looks absolutely open all over the place. So,
I mean, could this recipe work even if they don't
really find their footing when it comes to the running, Well.

Speaker 13 (39:01):
Yes, because this first half of the season, Bucket has
accomplished what Clint Kubiak and Mike McDonald want to. One
of the things they want to accomplished in the run
game is an identity that we're going to run, and
that the rest of the league is going to honor
the run. And they have done that. They run more
than anybody in the league. They just do it worse
than anybody in the league second worst. Going into the game,

(39:21):
they were thirty first in yards per carry, but they
were number one in rush attempts, so they're running more
than anybody. So the defensive game plan and then in
the game you have to honor that. And that has
opened up the pass game and that has made Sam
Donald a better play action quarterback. So that has the
run game has accomplished that. I'm just still I'm going
to die on this hill. Apparently, if they don't run

(39:44):
the ball against San Francisco and the Rams, they're not
winning division, period, end of story. So they've got to
run the ball more effectively against those teams. They can
beat the Washingtons in Houston's and Jacksonville's running the way
they are. The question remains, We're going to get it
answered here in two weeks. Can they beat the Rams
and forty nine ers running the ball this way? And
so far the ends has been no.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
We'll talk more about this tomorrow when we have more time.
But thirty seconds. Would Mike McDonald rather face the Cardinals
with Kyler Murray or Jacoby Brissett this week?

Speaker 13 (40:13):
Jacoby Brissett, no doubt. But having said that, we have
a long history here in Seattle of watching teams with
journeymen backup quarterbacks, especially they play for the Cardinals come
here and beat them, and you just go down the
list that it's happened multiple times of guys who shouldn't
be starting that have come in and beaten the Seahawks
on their home field. It's a different team, of course,

(40:34):
different regime with Mike McDonald, but Murray presents I know
Murray hasn't played very well at times and it's turned
it all over, but he presents so many more problems
in preparation and keys and reads. They would be much
more go get the quarterback and just straight up field
rushing at Jacoby Brissett. That's not to say that they

(40:54):
would have a picnic, but they would much rather face
Jacoby Brissett. Would if they told you the truth.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
Oh, that's a great idea for you today, a Bell
family birthday picnic. Since you were on a plane so
much on your birthday today, go for a picnic out
in the middle of a driving rainstorm somewhere.

Speaker 13 (41:12):
Yeah, it's Seattle's if only my wife didn't have some
place to be an all day at of work. But yeah,
let's do that. That's probably be picnic by myself. Everybody
else is busy, but I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
Thank you, all right, We'll talk to you tomorrow.

Speaker 13 (41:26):
Not very happy Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
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Speaker 4 (42:11):
All right.

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Speaker 13 (42:48):
Ah.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
Yes, every Tuesday we get a chance to chat with
CBS rules analysts and the greatest NFL official of all time,
Gene Sterrator, but also an outstanding college basketball official as well.
And I was wondering, like we started the show today,
Jean talking about how every sport in the world was
played yesterday, it felt like every single one of them.

(43:10):
Have you ever officiated anything other than college basketball and
the National Football League? Have you done highlight? Have you
done bowling? I mean, what other sports? Are you an
expert at?

Speaker 2 (43:24):
The bowling thing intrigues me a little bit.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
I think I might look into the bowling thing I
always wanted to be the net referee too in volleyball.
I mean standing on the step ladder there on your
little platform and just making.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
The point left or right. I thought that was kind
of a neat job. But you know, no, I stayed
in my lane and just messed up two sports in America.

Speaker 10 (43:47):
You know, I just stayed with football.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
I would love for a challenge flag to be thrown
by some bowler, like cause you said he stepped his
foot over the line. Red challenge flag comes out, he
throws his nachos in the air. That's his challenge flag.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
That'd be great.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
Well, good to have you. Thanks for being with us again.
We got a lot of ground to cover. So I
want to start with college football with you, because there
was a play in the Ohio State Penn State game
on Saturday where and I don't even like the targeting
rules that they use in college football. I don't like
that rule where it hangs over until the next day
and the player has to walk off the field in shame,

(44:29):
and usually it's pretty close to being a solid hit,
and yet we treat him like he's a felon as
he goes off the field. I don't like it. But
if that hit by Caleb Downs isn't targeting, then I
guess I don't understand the rules of college football. And
so they did assess a fifteen yard penalty for roughing.

(44:50):
But he looked like he launched his face into the
other guy's face. Even Caleb Downs gene thought that his
goose was cooked and then he was going to miss
the rest of the game. In the half of the
second game, So what did you see? How on earth
could the officials have overturned their initial feeling that that
was targeting.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
You know what, for me, those plays are almost impossible
to defend, right, I mean, you do have to look
at the scenario. And I listen, I don't disagree with
you at all on the impunitive level of you know,
of targeting. I think we all kind of know, those
of us that love to watch the game and have
watched it for a long time, when there's an action

(45:31):
that looks like you know what, No, he needs he
needs to go, he needs to be ejected, you know
what I mean. And then and then there's that other
window where I understand why you want to implement these rules,
because we do want to do you know, we want
to get the player to be as safe as he can,
and many times those hits are more dangerous to the
player than the recipient of that, you know, the person

(45:53):
that's giving it. So we're going to increase the level
of punishment to deter the action as they have all
into their mechanics.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
But I still think there are good football plays where Look.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
If you want that to be a file, that's fine,
make it fifteen in an automatic first down. But the
ejection from the third quarter into the first and second
quarters of the next game I think is too much
for hits. With that said, I think the behavior that
we saw on the hit you're referring to, those are
rejectable offenses. Those are plays we don't want to see

(46:25):
in the game for anybody at any time, and to me,
that meets the letter of the law.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
I think what we're also doing in replay is we
are maybe.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Micro analyzing, now, did the shoulder just touched the shoulder
pad initially and then the next contact was to the
head and neck area.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
We can see that by three camera frames.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Sometimes I think what we're doing in a lot of
these sports now we're slowing this down and looking for
these fine threads of detail rather than let the play
run twenty percent slower than what happened in real time
time and then make your assessment there and leave it there,
because at twenty percent slower, the officials could officiate that

(47:09):
play at twenty percent slower and be as consistent I think,
on the field in more cases than what we watch now,
plays that are ruling as catches now with the third
but just getting down, these plays are happening within a
fraction of a second, and your human brain's not going
to dissect that play to be able to work that
play live correctly. And that's not a good place to go.

(47:32):
I think that's where we're heading in some ways with
this technological advancement. And I think that's the only way
I could say.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
They didn't keep that targeting on there.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
He said the right words to the indicators, he launched,
he leaned his head toward the player's head in that area.
It's forcible contact and quite frankly, in real time and
slow motion, this is not a play we want in
the game.

Speaker 10 (47:56):
So you're gone.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
I mean, that's to me, those are the plays that
set that that's that's the president.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Yeah. Great.

Speaker 8 (48:02):
Unfortunately, it just seems like really a lot of times
with these it's like the look of the play is
what ends up calling getting the flag called, and then
they have to dissect it down to figure out is
it did it just look bad but it was legal,
or in this case, they look at it and say, well,
it looks bad.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
It really was bad, but we still picked up the flag.

Speaker 8 (48:21):
I don't understand that, but I guess Yeah, there's a
lot of minutia kind of involved in that whole thing.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Gene.

Speaker 8 (48:28):
Moving into the NFL, there was a game I think
that you were working, the Cincinnati Chicago game where I've
never seen this before.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
There was a play basically a fumble near.

Speaker 8 (48:39):
The goal line. They ended up calling them down. They
end up calling the Bears guy the Bears runner down.
Zach Taylor challenges a play hoping that they're gonna call
it a fumble out of the end zone and instead
it totally backfires on him and ends up they end
up turning into a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Is that a new one for you?

Speaker 8 (48:58):
And isact the way it's supposed to be that if
you throw a challenge, we might come back and say, yeah,
it's worse than what we had called on the field.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Yeah it was, And the irony of.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
That was you're looking for one element and all, my goodness,
after replay, it's much worse than where if we would
have just left it alone.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Those don't happen too frequently, Buck, And that was.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
A prime example that the Cincinnati coach felt like the
ball was loose prior to breaking the plane of the
goal line, and now we're going to have a fumble
through the end zone and out of the end zone
for a touchback. And then we go back and we
look at the play and realize, you know what, he really.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Didn't lose control.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
And I think the official on the field rule that
the ball was out at the one yard line. So
we went from the one yard line on in real
time ruling to the coach thinking that it was a
fumble through the end zone.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
To oh my goodness, it's not only out, not out
at the one.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
He still is possessing this football as it's breaking the plane.
So the challenge ended up and benefited the opponent to
were to score rather than have them have first.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
And goal at the one.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
I had a lot of those experience, like in my
dating life, Jeane, where you're like, I don't know if
I don't know if I think those shoes go with
that dress and U and then well, I don't know
if I want to be with you right now.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Backfired a few times.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Artist questioned in America Chuck when she comes down the
spears and says, how do I look?

Speaker 2 (50:26):
The answer there is I'm not really sure if I
can give you a great answer.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
I do say, because it's honest, you look more beautiful
today than you did the day I met you.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
But sometimes that doesn't work all the time. You know,
I get a little nervous when I get to say,
look does this go with that? I'm like, I'm not
that guy. I'm just not that guy. Looks do you
like it? Yeah? It works for me really well, looks great.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
I was Gene just quickly. I was once at a
Jamba juice and a single guy at the time, and uh,
and so I see this really pretty girl come into
the Jamba Juice and I walked up to her and
these are the words that came out of my mouth, Jean,
because I got to her and she had this amazing
perfume on, and this is how what came out of
my mouth first time I met her. You smell even

(51:12):
better than you look, that's.

Speaker 7 (51:17):
A fule that.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
I don't know she is wife or not.

Speaker 10 (51:24):
No, I mean.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
She had this like smile started to form on her face,
and then she thought about what I said, was like,
that's actually kind of insulting, and then she turned her
back on me and ordered a Coldbuster and that was it.

Speaker 10 (51:39):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
Jean's terretur is with this. CBS rules analysts and former
NFL official. I don't even think I said even I
think you smell better than you look. I think that's
how it came out.

Speaker 7 (51:50):
How good?

Speaker 5 (51:51):
All right, there were a couple of roughing plays I'll
take I'll take this one in the Detroit Minnesota game. Man,
I get the rule, Gene that we don't want three
hundred and fifty pound defensive tackles noseguards landing on our
precious quarterbacks. But a guy about the same size, Jack Campbell,
like a two hundred and thirty pound linebacker, landed on

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a two hundred and ten pound quarterback and you could
see that he was trying to move his shoulders so
that he didn't land on him. And he got called
with roughing anyway, and it was a huge call in
that game. I mean, I don't know if I love
the landing call and the National Football League, I certainly
didn't like that one. Was that justifiable? Should they have

(52:36):
shown thrown a flag on Jack Campbell in that case?

Speaker 1 (52:40):
I think it's one of the hardest plays the referee
in the game, chuck body weight?

Speaker 4 (52:46):
What you know?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
What is body weight? What isn't body weight? What's physics?

Speaker 1 (52:50):
What is in physics?

Speaker 14 (52:53):
Look?

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Ben Dright, there's a name from the past and the
referee annals. We always called it the givening the business
this play, right.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
That's how Ben Drace announced it when he felt like
it was roughing, you know, the players giving him the business.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
I think that you've got to allow that play.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Truthfully, I kind of wish that that play wasn't being
supported as like a correct call.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
When it's made and I felt the same thing you did. Yes,
the player gets a great hit, that's football.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Yes, he also attempts to get one hand that might
have been on the other side of where the referee
was on the ground, so that he didn't give him
the business and drive him through the term. But yet,
this game, the game we love, has those hits. If
it's not a fowl that looks like you know what
I know you hit him blindside and he's gonna tip

(53:46):
and you're gonna land, but you drove him a piece
of that too. At the end, I felt that on
the field that's a foul, these others aren't.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
And this is a really hard play to officiate, and
the league has been.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Very, very strong to get as much of this out
of the game as they can. So I think we
do lean at times with body weight to calling penalties
when when quite frankly, I think they're just good football
hits and the players have adjusted.

Speaker 13 (54:16):
In so many cases.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
You can see in real time, which amazes me, these
massive men spinning their bodies right before the body lands
on the ground, and these are fractions of a second decisions, or.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Them going to the ground in this quick moment and.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Putting their hands on the side to let the official note, look,
I am trying to brace myself before I go onto
the body. But I think their plays, you know, they
do lean to safety on the plays, and when you
see this situation, I agree with you. I think this
is a football play and not a body weight foul,
but really really hard to referee in real time, and

(54:55):
replay can't get.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Involved in that.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
I guess there's no way to put a weight limit
on that call, is there, Like you have to be
this big to ride this ride, Like you can't be
this big to land on a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Yeah, you're this call. You're underneath the kangaroos. No, so
you you can't get on.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
But you're also a little heavy too, so yeah, you know,
and that, you know, the other side was really difficult
is when you did have a very agile, in smaller
quarterback and and then you just have a six foot eight,
three hundred.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
And fifty pound lineman coming from the blind side.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
And and just kind of, you know, eclipses him. You
just you lose the player. Yeah, that is what's going
to happen. So I think that that that is to me,
I thought that was the hardest play to officiate consistently
in the league.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Yeah, interesting, Gean.

Speaker 8 (55:47):
There was one in the Houston Texans Denver Broncos game.
It was the unfortunate hit that knock c. J. Stroud
out of the game and cousin we concussed not the hit,
but the hit and then that forced his head to
hit the ground. And you know, we see that just
about every single week. A lot of people were up
in arms because he basically hit him while he was sliding.
Watching it and maybe it's through my broncho colored glasses,

(56:09):
it was like it was kind of a late slide.
He didn't I don't think he recognized that the defender
was coming back from the backside a little, but it
was a little bit of a you didn't really have
your head on a swell where you weren't really aware
of your surroundings. Anyways, it was he did hit him low.
You could tell he was trying to not hit him
in the head. The announcers were saying, well, at that point,
last second, you just have to make the adjustment and

(56:30):
go over him, which to me is like boy, but
if you miss now you literally hit him right in
the head and it's going to be even worse. And
so I don't know how are you supposed to officiate that,
because that's another one where there's gray area.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
It's got to be difficult to do, Bucky, And I.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Think this is one of those cases where listen, the
slide protection really really works well.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
When quarterbacks break out of.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
The pocket or a runner does and he's out in
space and now he feels on coming upon a closing
in and he makes the slide to avoid this hit
and gives up a few yards doing so, and that
looks really.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Good, claim the right call for the game. Now you
have a.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Player or a quarterback scrambles out of the pocket and
he gets between kind of the tackles. There are a
lot of opponents within two or three steps of him.
And then in that last moment, as you said, he.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Decides I'm gonna slide in this area.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
The proximities of bodies moving, the time that the defender
commits to making that hit maybe five feet away from him,
he's already committing to tackling you, and you just begin
to slide, and now the hit occurs. That's where I
think the rule itself, which I think is intended for

(57:48):
the out in space slide, now has to become a
different type of an application because you're sliding within close
proximity of people that you really can't put them on
that same level.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Now to the NFL's defense on that.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Because that foul was that the initial contact was to
his head, and replay is allowed to.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Review only that element of that play, you announced.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
That this is unnecessary roughness contact to a sliding quarterbacks head.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Or neck area.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Now you have a black and white piece that the
replay officials.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Can look at.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
It is reviewable, and now we do see in that
play kind of like the targeting in a maybe more
positive way from the first play. Listen, you started to
slide rather late and he does blast you there in
the chest, right in the shoulder, and unfortunately, as you
also said, but the bigger damage in a many many
of these hits is the quarterback or the player's head hitting.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
That hard turf afterward. But he didn't hit it in
the head and neck area.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
We can remove that penalty if we can look at
that element of that play, and that's why you called it.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
But it's the quarterback that's sliding within these close windows.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
I think that needs to be discussed a little further
down the line now about how much protection you can
afford them.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Gene Sterotor is with us. And then as we close
out this week's edition of our genes Sterotor Conversation, Halloween
just ended. Part of Halloween, fifty percent, if I can
do the math, is trick. I know fifty percent is treat,
but fifty percent is trick. So what kind of tricks
do you throw the flag on? At your house for

(59:26):
unsportsmanlike Halloween behavior I mean, is like toilet papering or
you know, running up and knocking on the door and
running away. What what's acceptable? Give me an example of
something acceptable as a trick and something that unacceptable that
you're gonna have to throw the flag on.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
The times have changed so much, chucky from my childhood
decades and decades ago, where you know, the soaping of
windows or that I don't want to give any young
kids any new and the creative ideas.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
But you know, the egging, we was a agging and
then you uh, it's.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
If it was a misty, misty October evening and uh
and it was a little damn man that toilet paper
on the pines out in the front of the house.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
It would slick there until Easter.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
You know, uh, you know kind of you know, honest
with you. Look, My brother and I own a you know,
a sanitaria janitorium paper supply business, so I always promote
the toilet papering because it's good for business, you know,
I mean, the tweeper is used.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
For more than one reason, ladies and gentlemen, you know. So,
and we do sell the jumbo roll, which is one
thousand elee air feet. You get a little more bang
for your buck on that night. So uh, I think
i'd lean to that trick if I had to lean
to any one trick. Okay, well it would be that one.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
That one that's what's acceptable. Okay, all right, I'll remember
that next year. Uh when I toilet painted a crap
out of your house, gonna just.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Don't come visit me during your time.

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
All right, Jeede, thank you very much, always great and
we'll talk to you again next week.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Thanks guys, have a great week, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
Jane Sterator the one the only Jeane Sterotor joining us
here as he does every Tuesday. His segment brought to
you by BMW Seattle. Looking for a new or used
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All Right, coming up next on our radio program, we're

(01:01:24):
gonna talk some hockey. We're gonna get that hockey thing
going with Everett fits you the team boy, they are
cooking under Lane Lambert. Can it continue? We'll ask Everett
on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, Chicago.

Speaker 14 (01:01:39):
Stop at the red line, Brent Nasar bumped off the puck.

Speaker 7 (01:01:42):
Now everly he'll bring it in everly.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Since still.

Speaker 14 (01:01:50):
Jordan Everly his fifth goal the season.

Speaker 7 (01:01:54):
The crooked get that inservance.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Goal backed back up by a pair three one on
the free fifty five left at the third.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
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Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
What is it?

Speaker 14 (01:02:32):
Oh my goodness, it's gotta be the bacon, egg and
cheese mcgriddle. Oh boy, big, big breakfast guy. So I'm
gonna go to the mccriddle. But if I'm doing lunch,
I mean get me a twenty piece and a large fry.

Speaker 10 (01:02:47):
Here we go.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
Nuggets.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
I'm a nugget guy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
I'm a nugget guy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
Myself.

Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
I have to sneak him every once in a while,
just have.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
To have them.

Speaker 14 (01:02:53):
I remember the first time I had, my mom splurged
on the twenty piece and I just felt ye like,
oh my goodness. I was so happy, and then I
calmed out. It made a fifty piece still in one
one Sunday morning, after some college debauchery, I ordered a

(01:03:13):
fifty piece chicken McNugget and my, uh my life was
changed forever.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Yes, that was your cholesterol.

Speaker 14 (01:03:20):
Yeah, yeah, still still recovering from that one fifty chicken mcnugg.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
That's a that's a meal right there. Evert Fitcy was
with us every week right here on Chuck and Buck.
Last night was on the call, right here on the
Flagship for the Seattle cracking of another victory for Lane
Lambert and the squad three to one they take out
the Chicago Blackhawks. What is the one thing that you've
noticed during this good start to this Lane Lambert era

(01:03:51):
that just simply jumps off the page to you as
being different than any other team that you've called play
by play for here in Seattle.

Speaker 14 (01:04:00):
I mean, I think Joey Decord had a really good
comment last night, and it's the fact that this team
believes in what they're doing. They believe in each other,
they believe in the system. They knew they were gonna
get off to a good start. They're comfortable in these
tight games. You know a lot of times you'll see
these teams up to one, up three to two, you know,

(01:04:23):
with with five to go, and they start to panic
and they start to do too much. And the one
thing that I've noticed about this team is just the
calming presence that you see. And I'll go back to
the Winnipeg game about two weeks ago now, when they
shut Winnipeg out on their home eyes two nothing or
three nothing with two empty net goals. It was one

(01:04:44):
nothing with you know, three minutes left, and I didn't
feel up in the broadcast booth panicky. I didn't feel like, man,
they gotta get another one here.

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
It was.

Speaker 14 (01:04:56):
It was so cerebral, and they did such a good
job of shutting down that Winnipeg attack. And I felt
last night again you saw it conn of Bedard and
Andre Breukovski. They were able to get the one. But
even when the Kraken were up to to one, you
just knew they were going to get that goal back
the way that this team played. I thought the last

(01:05:18):
couple of games weren't their best starts, but last night
they got back to what has made them successful and
that was a good sixty minute defensive, disciplined effort and
they were rewarded for that.

Speaker 8 (01:05:34):
FITZI, I mean for years we've been talking about like
kind of the one of the strengths of the team
is the strength possibly of how their third and fourth
lines match up against others, even if their first couple
of lines are not. Are you seeing any sort of
trend towards the first couple of lines being able to
match up against like what you said the you know
yesterday the the Connor Bdard and Andie Briukovski. You know

(01:05:57):
that's a line that typically is one that could do
damage against this type of a team. Are you seeing
the playing field level a little bit when you're talking
about the first couple of lines?

Speaker 14 (01:06:07):
I think I am, and and you know when when
you're when you talk about those third and fourth lines
in particular. We talked to ty Cart last night after
the game and and al essentially asked him that question,
you know, how do you like your line matchups? What
what's your lines philosophy, and and they that line in
particular wants to be the hardest line on this team

(01:06:30):
to play against. And I think Tye and Winterton and
and Ben Myers then last night uh Bertie Katten, they've
relished that role of being a shut down, grinding line.
I think offensively for the personnel that you have on
your third line last night with Mason, Mark Smith, Shade

(01:06:50):
Wright and Yonnie Newman, I do think there's another level
offensively for them to get to, especially you know the
shot that Newman has March Smith. You know what we've
seen from him throughout his career. He's got five points
this season for Seattle. But it always takes some time
for new players to get ingrained into the system. But

(01:07:11):
you're going on game thirteen now, so I think I
think we're gonna see Marshman. I hope we're gonna see
Marshman break out here over the next couple of nights.
But I think I think that those bottom two lines,
the fourth line in particular, they have really relished the
opportunity of shutting down team's top lines and really frustrating

(01:07:32):
some of the better players to crack and see on
a nightley basis.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
The voice is with us ever fits you every week
at this time to talk some crack and hockey winners.
Last night three to one, six, two and four record
on the season. You got Capo CaCO back, which is
great for a play by play man because it's such
a fun name to pronounce, and Berkeley Catton is kind
of that way as well. So what have you made
of the teenage mutant ninja winger so far in his

(01:08:00):
in his time as a Seattle Kraken.

Speaker 14 (01:08:03):
Well, you know, I think I think number one, he
has proven that he can play at this level and
it almost reminds me a little bit of Shane Wright
last year, his first full season in the NHL. Every shift,
every game, he did something better, he did something well.

(01:08:25):
He took incremental steps almost every night to improve his game,
and I think I'm seeing that. I feel like I'm
seeing that with Berkeley Catton this year as well. Every night,
whether it's whether it's a zone entry, whether it's a
good play with the puck, whether it's a nice pass,
whether it's going to the net. Last night, I had

(01:08:46):
to apologize to to Mama and Papa Catten because I
thought that that Alexiak goal Berkeley, Catton went to the
front of the net, and on the first replay that
we saw, it looked like he got a piece of it.
So he went to the net last night. I think
he's showing every single night that he can play in

(01:09:06):
this league, that he is an NHL player. Now you're
trying to get him to a point where he can
be a top line NHL player, which is where they
expect him to be, and that takes time. But I
think that he's answered the call every time that has
offered him. I think when you have young players, you
need to give them regular shifts. I think Lane Lambert
is showing the trust in Berkeley. It's starting to grow,

(01:09:32):
but also they're gonna be those growing pains. He's nineteen
years old, so you know you're not expecting a perfect
hockey player at nineteen years old. But I do think
that every game he's getting better. He belongs in this league.
But now he needs to work on his permanent placement
within the lineup, and everybody he included expects him to

(01:09:54):
be a top line winger. I think he works really
well with every and beineers on that top line. Uh
is that his everyday spot should that be his everyday
spot right now today, probably not, but four months from
now to start of next season, when he's got a
full year under his belt, we still don't know what's

(01:10:15):
gonna happen with him. After his nine game Uh, you know,
tryout essentially is up and and and he's got to
make a decision. We've got to make a decision. It's
an organization. Do you keep them, do you send them back,
whatever the case may be. But I do think that
he's trending in the right direction. In every game, he
takes another step toward being that top line player that
we all expect him to be.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Fit to any word on Jared McCann's health.

Speaker 14 (01:10:39):
Day to day to quote land h yeah, we we
still we Mum's the word. We haven't gotten a lot
of information on Jared McCann. I know last week, Uh,
he did skate after practice, went through a few drills.
He did push himself kind of hard and it appeared

(01:11:02):
like he was maybe trying to test something out. But
but no, we've gotten no word. Maybe this week and
on the crack and they've got one more game on
this home stand and they head out to Dallas and
Saint Louis Saint Louis and Dallas Saturday Sunday. So maybe
the cracking can get an update on him when before
they leave, But as of right now, it's it's kind

(01:11:22):
of the hurry up and wait game when it comes
to news.

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
On Jared McCann, I got a minute left here, and
so just to ask you, because the team is already
I mean it's early in the season. They've already played
six overtime games and they've lost four of them. So
do you look at this. Do you think Lane Lambert
looks at this, ays man, we are hanging with everybody
in the NHL. I mean, it's every night is a
close knight. Or do you think he's fuming that, Hey,

(01:11:45):
we got to figure out three on three hockey. We
need to get two points, not one point when we
send this thing to overtime.

Speaker 14 (01:11:52):
So again, I asked him a very similar question the
other day.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Yeah, and I wouldn't say fuming is the word.

Speaker 14 (01:12:01):
I don't even know if I would go so far
as to say mildly frustrated. But there is a little
bit of you know, we're banking important points that can
be are going to be important later in the season.
Right when you're going in to game seventy five, when
you're going into the last week or two of the
season and you're still in that playoff race, you're gonna

(01:12:24):
look back at all these overtime games and say, man,
thank goodness, we have these points. However, on the other
side of that, you would like to find an extra
point here or there.

Speaker 10 (01:12:35):
Because it's a.

Speaker 14 (01:12:35):
Double ed sword. You can either miss the playoffs by
two points or three points, or you can get into
the playoffs by two or three points. And you're gonna
be like, man, if only we had held on to
that third period lead and didn't give away a point
in overtime, or man, thank god, we sal there's a
point in overtime. So I think you can play both

(01:12:57):
sides of that coin. I wouldn't say he's frustrated or
mad yet, but I do think that as this year
goes on, right, once you get past December first, once
you get into January, you're going to want to start
to get full two points, especially against teams in the
Western Conference.

Speaker 5 (01:13:13):
My wish for you, sir, as we get ready for
the holidays is for some day to open up a
sixty piece McNugget.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
That's my that's my hope for you.

Speaker 10 (01:13:23):
Sixty full pieces.

Speaker 14 (01:13:25):
Man, what's that that? That just sounds lovely?

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
You have fun on the call.

Speaker 14 (01:13:33):
I don't I don't want to go buy three twenty pieces,
No big one, big d piece box of nuggets.

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
Like a bucket from KFC.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Bucket.

Speaker 14 (01:13:42):
KFC can do buckets of chicken. Why can't I do
a bucket nugget?

Speaker 6 (01:13:46):
A buck of nugs?

Speaker 5 (01:13:50):
Yeah, yeah, mickbuckle nugs.

Speaker 14 (01:13:52):
They're higher up the introducing the Mickbuckle dugs that come down.

Speaker 15 (01:14:00):
Talk to you later, all right, fellas Ashley think Evertt
FITZI joining us right here on talking about He'll be
back on the call with Al tomorrow at seven o'clock
home game against the San Jose Sharks.

Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
We're gonna play the Sharks twice in like ten days.
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Speaker 10 (01:15:04):
This is college football and I want you to get
it all over yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:15:09):
Paul, can you believe? Goachu? We're two thirds of the
way through this season. Where's the time gone? Just as
flies by?

Speaker 10 (01:15:15):
Just remember the games they remember are played in November.
Just keep that in mind. We're now down the stretch
run and all sorts of great stuff is going to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:15:26):
Oh man, I can't wait. And tonight we get the
first college football playoff of sneak peak from the committee.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
What are you expecting this evening?

Speaker 13 (01:15:35):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:15:36):
Much ado about nothing? I don't think much matters tonight.
It'll be interesting to see who they have is number one,
you know, I think probably it'll be Ohio State, but
Texas A and M would have an argument based on
the strength of their schedule. Indiana would have an argument
based on the game control that they've been exercising. But

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it'll be kind of interesting there. I also think it'll
be interesting where they have Notre Dame because I think
the common feeling is that Notre Dame will get in
the playoff at ten and two, and yet if they
do that, that means Miami probably can get in at
ten and two because Miami beat Notre Dame. So the

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Miami and Miami probably is not going to make it
to the ACC championship game. So that's kind of an
interesting little deal conundrum for the committee.

Speaker 8 (01:16:29):
In my mind, is there anybody that you see that
probably will be on the outside looking in besides Miami
of tonight's little ranking and how they're they're looking at
the playoffs at this point that has the best chance
as far as how the path looks for them to
make a run late in the season.

Speaker 10 (01:16:49):
Well, I think Washington, I think will be in the
top twenty five, and I think Washington, given the schedule
up and the game against Oregon to to finish the season,
if Washington wins against Wisconsin, Purdue, and Ucla, which will

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be favored in all of them, If they win all
three of those games and then beat Oregon, that makes
Oregon at best ten and two, and Washington now has
to be in over them. So I think the Huskies
have a path.

Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
I've watched Oregon play a lot, and I don't think
they are as good as what we thought they were.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
Going to be so far at the beginning of the season.

Speaker 5 (01:17:37):
And I've watched Washington play every game this year and
they're not as good as Oregon. I mean, that's just
the bottom lining it. But in four weeks could there
could they be better than Oregon? Could the Huskies grow
enough that by the time they face the Ducks they
have a team that can't just pull enough upset, but

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could match up with Oregon and knock off Oregon.

Speaker 10 (01:18:04):
I think with Demand Williams, when he is allowed to
roam free and is given the opportunity to be the
dual trek quarterback, that he's sensational at being that anything
is possible for Washington. When Michigan and Ohio State corral
him and leave his rushing numbers in the minus category,

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they become very pedestrian. And then the question is can
they get enough stops on the other side to give
the offense more chances? And that has not been the
case in either of those games against the Big Ten's
annual best. That being said, I think against Oregon and
based on what I saw when I was in Eugene

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watching Indiana, that that quarterback is going to have a
chance to have a big day, especially in front of
a home crowd.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
How good or how ye? How good is Alabama?

Speaker 8 (01:19:01):
I mean, I know that considering last year not making
it and then an early loss this season, and yet
they've kind of righted the ship, so to speak, and
are sitting at four in some of the polls right now.
Obviously look like if they win out, they're going to
obviously make the playoffs. And yet I'm just wondering, from
your opinion, how good is that team?

Speaker 10 (01:19:21):
I think every team in the SEC is vulnerable. We
aren't sure that Indiana and Ohio State are vulnerable yet
because they really haven't been challenged by what I would
call a great team. But there are very few great
teams right now, very few, and I think that makes

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for a wild chain of events when we get to
playoff time, mean even conference championship time, that we're going
to see things that we really haven't seen over the
course of the season based on the fact that this
vulnerability is going to show it up. Look at Georgia.
Every week Georgia is behind, and yet they find a way.

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As Kirby Smart likes to say, they're hard to kill,
and that basically is the DNA who I think is
gonna end up being the champion this year. That's the
DNA they're going to have to show down the stretch
because everybody's gonna get challenged down the stretch.

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
Yeah, somebody that took Georgia. I was really happy to
see Gunner Stockton show great sportsmanship and drop at the
one yard line from a sure touchdown. I'm sure a
lot of Georgia fans who have absolutely no interest in
anything gambling wise felt the exact same way.

Speaker 10 (01:20:37):
Those are reserved for the fan felt bad beat sections
of your week. That is definitely a bad beat.

Speaker 5 (01:20:46):
Rick new Eisles let us he joins us every segment
College Football Insider from CBS Sports of course, former Husky's
head coach, and we lean on his wisdom every week
thanks to our friends at Taco time before we start
diving into the schedule for this week, because this team
is going to be featured prominently this weekend and maybe
the best game of the weekend. I mean, we threw

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around the word great, not sure if a team is great?
Is BYU great? How would you describe BYU undefeated Big
twelve member, eighth ranked in the country. Are they a
good team? Great team? What are the Cougars?

Speaker 10 (01:21:23):
I think they're a very good team. I don't know
that we can go as far as great yet they've
been vulnerable. They came from ten behind at Arizona against
a good team, but not a great team, and found
a way to win an overtime. They went on the
road to a Iowa State team, and I think they
were an underdog on the road there and found a

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way to win on the road. But it turns out
that maybe Rock Obecton Company aren't what we thought they
were at season's beginning, So this will be a very
big test. They're a ten and a half point underdog
to Texas Tech this weekend. Texas Tech is the number
one offense and the number one defense in the Big Twelve.
They're well resourced with the guys from Double Eagle Energy,

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Cody Campbell and John Sellers. They're putting up a lot
of money. They were the number one team in the
Transfer portal in terms of purchasing talent. That's not to
knock them, that's just a kind of a baseline as
to how they've done it. But b why you going
in there with this young quarterback Bear Bachmeier? Is going
to be a fun game, and given what I watched

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by you do over the course of the game, they
find themselves in it late. I'd take the ten and
a half points.

Speaker 8 (01:22:37):
Could this be a week that Penn State pulls an
upset on Indiana? I mean, you think Indiana is rolling
and they kind of seem like they're clicking on all cylinders,
and yet, you know, five losses in a row. Penn
State's completely falling off the map since that Oregon loss,
and so I'm just wondering, is there's still enough in
there that they could maybe pull a big upset against Indiana.

Speaker 10 (01:23:00):
Well to your point, Bucky, I mean last week it
was seventeen to fourteen Ohio State in Columbus at one point,
and now they didn't hang on. They're not as good
defensively as maybe we remember, But it feels like the
pride of this Penn State program will rise up at
least one more time this year and make that kind

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of statement. And there'd be no better time than to
do it against the number two team in the country.
And maybe tonight we find out the number one team
in the country. I mean, that would be a wild,
wild chain of events. And yet you can see where
that could happen. We'd see that stuff happen in college
football all the time. So I'm not counting the Nitney

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Lyons out. But I tell you this about Indiana. They
are like we say in college basketball, they're an old team.
Their offensive line averages over thirty five starts again per player,
and they're defensive line averages over thirty seven starts a player,
and that's going five, six, seven deeps. So this is

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a well oiled machine. And they've got a coach in
Signetty that likes to pound on you.

Speaker 5 (01:24:16):
I hope you appreciate this. I haven't asked you Heisman
question all season long. I think that that's one of
the most prematurely discussed conversations that we have in sports
talk radio.

Speaker 7 (01:24:27):
But I will ask it now, isn't going to win it?

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
Yeah, exactly. I will ask it now, two thirds of
the way into the season. Is Mendoza your favorite right now?

Speaker 10 (01:24:36):
Mendoza is certainly on the list going to New York,
as is Ty Simpson, the quarterback at Alabama. And then
I'm kind of torn. Diego Pavia was a guy that
I was really, really kind of pulling for to get there.
If they get to ten and two, I still think
he belongs there, given what he's meant to college football,

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not just as the quarter for Vanderbilt, but for all
these kids get next chances and play in one more
year based on their court cases to get their chance
at nil. I think he's a lightning rod of college football.
The other guy that I really like is this guy,
Trindiddad Chambliss at Ole Miss, the quarterback who started his

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career at Farris State, a small school Division two school
in Michigan, and he's having an unbelievable year. We'll see
how his season finishes, and there's still more stories to go.
I mean, Notre Dame's going to be probably inside the
line tonight as a college football playoff team. Who would
have believed that when they started the season zero and two?

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So in this Jeremiah love as what a ninety four
yard touchdown run last week? He's almost at a thousand yards.
Wouldn't shock me that we hear his name getting a
chance to go to New York.

Speaker 5 (01:25:55):
Can Navy beat Notre Dame? Please tell everybody that once
Navy to beat Notre Dame, that Navy can beat Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
Please.

Speaker 10 (01:26:04):
I would love to say that they can. And Blake
Horbats is the kind of quarterbacks. It can solve this problem.
But here's your problem with Navy and Notre Dame. Navy's
offense is requires what we call I discipline. You have
to it's triple option, so you have to have everybody
accountable for their gap and their particular assignment in dive, quarterback, pitch,

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all those different things. And they're also now equipped to
throw the ball. Horror Back's been able to you know,
I think have close to ten touchdown passes already this year.
With that being said, though Notre Dame plays them every year,
it's not a one off, so they know the offense.
I want and watched Notre Dame play Army last year
in Yankee Stadium, which I thought was going to be

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a great game. It was man against boys, and I
unfortunately think that will be the case again this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:26:59):
I mean I've watched obviously every snap and yet the
times it feels like they kind of played down to
their competition.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
They can't get away with doing that.

Speaker 8 (01:27:07):
They got away with it at Wisconsin, but they can't
get away with doing that against Iowa. So how you're
feeling about my Ducks going into Iowa City.

Speaker 10 (01:27:17):
Well, I don't know about Dante Moore's health, right. Dante
got taken out of the game this last week, and
so the passing game went basically into the closet and
wasn't used. They end up running for just over two
hundred yards. But doing a mosh pit with Wisconsin, who
plays against the run as well as any team in

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the Big Ten, is not how you're going to win
big and so the score was indicative of that. You're
going to have to have a good plan for Iowa.
Iowa was one of those sleepy teams that can basic,
especially at Kinnick, which is their home stadium and has
one of the great traditions in college football, albeit a
new one where they wave at the kids at the

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children's possible there at the end of the first quarter,
which gives a teer to everybody's eye as to how
heartfelt that is. You better go in there with a
full lunch pail if you're going to take on the Hawkeyes.
Bill Parkers defense has been one of the best units
in all of football for a very long time. So

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Oregon's going to have to look explosive like we've seen
Oregon look before. They cannot be pedestrian and win in Kinnick.

Speaker 5 (01:28:27):
All right, So we just brought up Wisconsin full circle.
They face you dub you Dubbs coming off of buy
I think the expectation is that you dub goes in
there handles business. Why would Wisconsin be dangerous.

Speaker 10 (01:28:45):
Well, just for the same reason we talked about Penn
State being dangerous. You just feel like this Wisconsin team,
given the pride that's associated with that program, is going
to rise up and win one of these games, and
you don't want to go in there and make it
make them feel that this is the Saturday that's going
to happen. So it's going to be really important that

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Washington get off to a fast start, uh, and and
show that this is not going to be one of
those weekends where you're going to have your way. Fortunately,
what times that game start? What time's that game?

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
OK?

Speaker 10 (01:29:25):
One thirty West Coast time? Ray, I'm sure, yeah, so
three point thirty, three point thirty in uh in camp Randall.
That's that's that's late enough where you're not sitting there
thinking about your body clock. That's uh. That will feel
normal uh to the dogs. And again, quarterback centric offenses

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need the quarterback to deliver. Deman Moore is going to
have to be good, and he's going to have to
get his legs involved in the game. If his legs
are involved in the game, I always like Washington. If
his legs are not, I start worrying.

Speaker 5 (01:30:01):
All right, So once Luke Fickle gets fired and there
are one hundred and.

Speaker 10 (01:30:06):
It's going to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
It's going to happen. No.

Speaker 10 (01:30:10):
First of all, Chris McIntosh doesn't have the money. Second
of all, it's with all these firings, there aren't enough
coaches to go around and get you another good one. Well,
that was going to be maybe a new offensive coordinator
coming in next year. But they basically have had a
U turn. They started down a path trying to be

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something that they weren't, trying to be a passing team,
and they realize that's not who they are nor how
they can augment their roster. So they basically did a
U turn and now they're going back down Barry Alvarez Boulevard.
But it's going to take a year to get themselves
calibrated to play like that again.

Speaker 5 (01:30:48):
Yeah, I was going to be What I was trying
to set up was like, all right, ninety of the
top one hundred college football head coaching jobs are open
right now? Are there enough pieces to cover the board?
But we'll handle it like that, all right, your Taco
Time pick of the week? Have we already covered it? Sir?

Speaker 10 (01:31:09):
You know, I don't think we have. I'm looking at
the board this week, and you know, as is always
the case, they're hard to come by. But I absolutely
think that we've got to gain here early in the
day where BYU maybe we have covered it. Because I

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think I told you BYU I take the ten and
a half. It now looks like it's gone down to
nine and a half. I'm still going to stick with them.
I'm taking the Cougars over Texas Tech and I'll get
nine and a half, and I hope that they'll be
within a touchdown.

Speaker 5 (01:31:45):
Oh just okay, So just to cover you, you don't
you're not thinking they're going to win out right.

Speaker 10 (01:31:50):
I don't don't think that they can't. I just think
that the Texas Tech is formidable, especially on that defensive front.
But I do think they'll stick around. They've got a
lot of heart this team, and it's funded team to watch,
especially with a quarterback wearing number forty seven.

Speaker 5 (01:32:06):
All right, Well, why am I struggling with the reading?
Where CBS is doing this weekend? On my little handy
dandy schedule that always come we have.

Speaker 10 (01:32:14):
We have that Bucky thriller, Oregon at Kinnick. We get
Oregon in Iowa. Okay, looking forward.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
It that way?

Speaker 5 (01:32:22):
Okay to me?

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
A good one?

Speaker 5 (01:32:23):
All right? All right, coach, Well, thank you, we appreciate it.
Always awesome stuff. Enjoy the college football rankings that don't
mean anything tonight, and we'll talk to you again next week.

Speaker 10 (01:32:35):
Look forward to it, boys, Take care now?

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
All right?

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The Old Judge is here our Tuesday segment. This is
where I throw out a few things. It's going to
be a pretty NFL dominant conversation that we're going to
have here on Trade deadline day. Throw out a few things.
Ashley and I discussed them. Whenever the Old Judge has
hurt enough, he will slam his gabble gabble g gabol
and he will weigh in and whatever he says goes.

Speaker 4 (01:33:47):
Ashley and I really don't have another argument that we
can make. But sometimes you guys still do yeah, and then.

Speaker 6 (01:33:56):
You're judged.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
Yeah, yeah, I know.

Speaker 6 (01:33:58):
I don't like judgment.

Speaker 5 (01:34:00):
Well, let's get it going. I'm gonna go with this.
This is a really heavy hitter, real big one. Right
off the town. Way through the NFL season. Sam Donald
and JSN are both top five MVP candidates.

Speaker 6 (01:34:15):
I'm trying to think top five, top five, top five.
I would definitely say one of them is a top
five candidate.

Speaker 9 (01:34:22):
I don't know if both of them are a top
five candidate, but at the same time, I have no
argument for why they couldn't be because JSN is leading receivers,
Sam Donald is I don't know if he's leading quarterbacks,
but he's.

Speaker 5 (01:34:32):
Done number two in QBR, number three in rating, and
I think he's number one at PFF.

Speaker 6 (01:34:37):
You know what, Yes, we're gonna go with it. They
should both be top five candidates.

Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
I know it's insane, but my response is yes, yeah,
I think Sam Donald is one of the top four
quarterbacks so far this season for a team with a
six and two record that is leading its division, you know,
five percentage points, but leading its division at this point,
and jsn's numbers are so much better than every other
wide receiver. I mean, just like I think Jonathan Taylor

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is a top five candidate because he's clearly the best
running back so far this year.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
I think there's room in the conversation for a wide receiver.

Speaker 5 (01:35:11):
I think they're boted up five.

Speaker 8 (01:35:12):
Yeah, gavel, galvel, gabble. I think that they're right there.
I think that they're right there. Obviously, the quarterback position
is the one that you start leaning more towards. And
I think that if you were to just right now,
what Jackson Smith and Jigba has done compared to other
receivers is a bigger gap than what Sam Donald has done.
But I was seeing a couple of different things after

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this amazing game that Sam Donald played last week, and
it was talking about like he's doing some stuff so
far where completing seventy two percent of passes and has
it been sacked less than ten times and thrown for
this over two thousand yards, which has only happened like
three other times through this amount of time. So I
think that him, he most certainly is in that top five.

(01:35:57):
I mean, he's probably top three at this point and
might be leading it depending on who's.

Speaker 4 (01:36:01):
Making the argument. Jackson Smith and jig.

Speaker 8 (01:36:03):
But I think because of how much you have to do,
is probably should be in the in the in the conversation.
And yet, I mean we're talking, he's got to go
just continue to go off. I mean, there's no letting
up what he has to do at this point in
time moving forward. Yeah, if he keeps going at this
pace right here where he's at, he's going to be
in that conversation as well.

Speaker 9 (01:36:23):
It's so weird though, to be saying like, yeah, TV,
That's why I was like, I don't know, that's just
a bit bias.

Speaker 6 (01:36:28):
That's too much. We can't ask for.

Speaker 5 (01:36:30):
All of that, right, And yet I feel I think
you feel like Stafford Arnold Mahomes JSN and Taylor Vegas
Vegas is saying Josh Allen is still the favorite, Patrick
Mahomes second, and Drake May is the third favorite from
the New England Patriots.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:36:46):
Interesting, all right, Next up, Chris Collinsworth is right, the
Seahawks are at the front of the line and discussing
the best teams in the NFL.

Speaker 9 (01:36:55):
Yeah, especially the way that they just played on Sunday night. Granted,
I know the Commanders weren't a good team, but they
made them look silly, and I think you have a
hard argument to find somebody that at least played better
than them this week.

Speaker 5 (01:37:07):
That's for sure. Yeah, I don't think anybody played bad.
They opened a lot of eyes, there's no question with
that Sunday performance. I don't put them at the front
of the line. I mean, it's hard to think that
they're gonna go from missing the playoffs a year ago
to the best team in the National Football League and
we are only halfway through the season and there's a
lot of stiff competition out there. But I'll at least

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say this, they're in the line. They are in the
line for discussion, maybe not the front, but.

Speaker 4 (01:37:35):
They're in the avel gavel galvel. It's still so much
yet to be played.

Speaker 8 (01:37:40):
But at this point in time, I mean, considering there
was a bye week in there, they're basically tied for
the best record.

Speaker 4 (01:37:46):
Now.

Speaker 8 (01:37:47):
I think if you were to go record wise, because
you are kind of what your record says. I mean,
I don't know if the Indianapol Coults are legitimately one
of the best teams in the NFL either. I don't
know that about the Patriots. I don't even know that
about the Broncos, and those are the only two teams
that are the only three teams that have a better record.

Speaker 4 (01:38:05):
There's just one more win at seven and two. I
think teams like the Eagles.

Speaker 8 (01:38:08):
Buccaneers are probably still at least a half a step ahead.
But that said, I think that we've seen warts on
every team that you watch, right and yet right now
it feels like this is we're a year and a
half into the Mike McDonald's. I think the defense has
been hurt, so it still has another step that it
can take to be one of the best, if not

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the best, in the league. I think the offense, while
they haven't ran the ball very effectively, they're passing the
ball about as well, if not better than anybody else.
So I mean, I think that they're definitely in that conversation.
I think the Bills obviously are in that category. But yeah,
if you're leaving them out because of any reason, I
would think that that's a mistake.

Speaker 5 (01:38:48):
Hey, it's not like they're not like I mean, if
the Browns tried to get in the line, they're like, hey,
I know Trevor, Yeah he works for you, right exactly. Yeah, yeah, Hey,
is Bill in there. Let me talk to Boo's. That's Cleveland.

Speaker 9 (01:39:02):
And the interesting thing with the Colts that they showed
this week during their game is their schedule in the
first half was the third easiest and.

Speaker 6 (01:39:08):
It becomes the fifth hardest in the second half of
the season.

Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
I'm not a big believer.

Speaker 5 (01:39:12):
Yeah, Colts, so that better, certainly better than I thought
they were going to be. That's very clear since I
picked them to go under seven and a half and
they already seven wins, but.

Speaker 6 (01:39:22):
They don't have that half. They don't have that half.

Speaker 5 (01:39:24):
It's gonna come that Hal's gonna come hard. Tell you
that right now, all right. Next up, the Seahawks will
add Max Crosby before today's one o'clock deadline.

Speaker 6 (01:39:35):
No, sorry, wow, that's some cold water.

Speaker 9 (01:39:38):
I would love it, it'd be awesome, but I feel
I mean, you got to give up quite a bit
for him. And now obviously it does seem the Lakers
or the Lakers the Raiders are in trade mode for sure,
but I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:39:48):
Think we would be the ones that would end up
with Max Crosby. I'd love it if we did.

Speaker 5 (01:39:52):
And theory you could say, like, oh man, we can
dangle we know who Pete likes and we can dangle
some guys we don't like that much, but we know
Pete likes Ed.

Speaker 6 (01:40:01):
Here'squilling.

Speaker 5 (01:40:03):
Here's the thing, though, I don't think Pete's going to
make it to next year. I don't think they were
going to suffer a step back, So I don't think
Pete's going to have anything to do with this decision.
I do believe John's going to make a mark. I
think he's going to make a significant trade before one o'clock.
But Max Crosby's probably a two gavel gavel gavel gavel.

Speaker 8 (01:40:25):
I don't think it will be Max Crosby. I mean,
I think that there's still you know, they probably still
respect each other and like each other to some extent.
I'm talking about John and Pete, and yet I would
have a hard time seeing Pete.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:40:38):
I know he doesn't call the.

Speaker 8 (01:40:39):
Shots like he did here, but I still would have
a hard time thinking that he would want to do
anything to necessarily benefit the place that he went. Right,
if they're in cell mode, he probably would sell to
just about anybody else in the NFC.

Speaker 5 (01:40:53):
Well, he didn't take Geno from us.

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
I was a huge favor. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That
is true.

Speaker 8 (01:41:00):
I just don't think it'll be I wouldn't be surprised though,
if they do. If he does pull off something big,
I mean, the Trey Hendrickson one just would scream, Mike McDonald,
John Schneider, Hey, let's make our defense it's already really good,
make it really really scary with adding one of the
best pass rushers in the game.

Speaker 5 (01:41:16):
And it would cost less and probably does make a
little bit more sense. Miles Garrett was way too rich.
We were just having some fun with that a couple
of weeks ago. But I think something significant. I think
he's gonna do some significant. I don't think he can
help himself.

Speaker 6 (01:41:29):
Yeah, I would agree with that.

Speaker 5 (01:41:30):
I mean, think about the guys that he's added, Sheldon
Richardson and Jadavian Clowney and Ernest Jones and and with
and at times without as good a team as what
we're playing like right now. So I think he's gonna
add something big, all right. Last one, man, I was
thinking about this, and I know the holiday seasons are
a bit of a crush, but we got a good

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month between Halloween and Thanksgiving. We have time to put
another major holiday right. The second week of November.

Speaker 4 (01:41:58):
What do you think?

Speaker 6 (01:42:00):
What holiday?

Speaker 5 (01:42:00):
Are you thinking we can invent one? We just create one,
maybe Hot Stove Day, Hot Stove Day there before we
get to party again. I think like way too much time.
It's the way too much.

Speaker 4 (01:42:13):
And your holidays. I love holidays. We don't need to
vent more one. We just don't need to invent new
ones in between.

Speaker 8 (01:42:22):
How about we start getting yourself riled up about all
the things that you can be thankful of.

Speaker 9 (01:42:28):
I'll tell you this, if you're going to add another holiday,
I'd add it between January and March.

Speaker 6 (01:42:34):
That's where we need a holiday, you.

Speaker 14 (01:42:36):
Know, is there.

Speaker 8 (01:42:37):
And I'm just Valentine's Day, Valentine's Day, Saint Patrick's Day.

Speaker 5 (01:42:41):
I think I'm just really pumped to like get going
with the holiday. Maybe that's just because we don't get
days off.

Speaker 6 (01:42:47):
Yeah, no, that's exciting, that's okay.

Speaker 8 (01:42:50):
I get well in that case, hot Stove Day, you're
not getting the day off holiday.

Speaker 9 (01:43:00):
You think about this, and now we don't get every
holiday off. So it's got to be something along the
lines of fourth of July. I mean, it's gotta be
a big one.

Speaker 4 (01:43:09):
I'll do this. We're saying I'm anxious to start celebrating
the holiday.

Speaker 7 (01:43:12):
Yeh, me too.

Speaker 6 (01:43:13):
If that means stays off.

Speaker 8 (01:43:14):
Stanton Jerry justin figure out how to get Josh Naylor
signed something.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
Then it's Josh Daylor, Josh Naylor Day.

Speaker 6 (01:43:21):
I think it should be Josh Daylor.

Speaker 4 (01:43:23):
Forever, every day. Naylor Day.

Speaker 6 (01:43:25):
Yeah, Naylor Daylor.

Speaker 11 (01:43:26):
I love Naylor Day. Yes, I'll celebrate that he dresses up.
I'll celebrate that.

Speaker 8 (01:43:32):
Out of that jersey that goes down to your knees. Yeah,
I'm down with that.

Speaker 9 (01:43:37):
To eat a lot, I think Josh, does you gotta
smile or be frownie? You can only smile or frown
You cannot be in the middle.

Speaker 4 (01:43:45):
You didn't mean that it's offensive, any offensive.

Speaker 6 (01:43:48):
No, do not take any offensive. I love eating too.

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
Yeah, dress up, a dress up, holidays, a Feastliday, sparkle
shoes and a belt. Yeah, it's about loyalty, yep. I
like the holiday to be about loyalty. Starts with a
speech about loyalty.

Speaker 6 (01:44:05):
And all call it all nails day like sedge.

Speaker 8 (01:44:08):
Yeah, like a pledge of allegiance to the Mariners from Josh.

Speaker 5 (01:44:12):
Like a site pledge about like there aren't greener pastures.
Be happy where you are now, where you freed are now.

Speaker 6 (01:44:20):
Yeah, like a pledge allegiance to T Mobile.

Speaker 11 (01:44:23):
Yet Mariners Holiday, Like that, Mariners fans across the.

Speaker 4 (01:44:30):
Okay, all right Holiday judge came around on it.

Speaker 7 (01:44:34):
All right.

Speaker 5 (01:44:34):
We close out the show with one last thing. Next
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