Best of Chuck & Buck 11-20

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Morning everyone, Good morning, it's time.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Good morning class, lady and gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
Ladies and gentlemen, we hold in producing six one guard
from Brighton, Illinois and former high school basketball stand what
the hell does end?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Maybe yumped any conclusions?

Speaker 4 (00:18):
No, not a god, You've got to lower lower your expectations.

Speaker 5 (00:22):
Hard to believe we could once send a fastball to Pluto.

Speaker 6 (00:26):
I'm getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes and former I'll just
openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped ex athlete.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
A five seven guard and a former college water polo
national champion.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
There's a lot of useless crap up here.

Speaker 6 (00:41):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Now this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
Ashley Ryan. What to you buy to Lada Casino Resort
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the action never stopped.

Speaker 7 (00:54):
Ready to go, Hey, good morning, Welcome into the radio show.

Speaker 8 (01:13):
It is a Thursday, Chuck a Buck in the Morning's
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Speaker 1 (01:26):
You know Lucky and Nucky. It's the Lucky and Nucky
show on the.

Speaker 6 (01:33):
Jet am I Lucky. Well you're first, so you're Lucky.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
I'm not on that show. On that show you Nucky?

Speaker 6 (01:40):
Yeah, okay, I get Nucky.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
It's like an old like uh you know mafia name.

Speaker 6 (01:46):
Oh yeah, we'll mess with Knukie or you'll get the
Knucky's sandwich.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
One eye open's look mouth. That's on all the posters
for the show that we do.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Have you not seen these? I have apparently they're everywhere.

Speaker 9 (02:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Well, anyway, now cat's out of the bag.

Speaker 9 (02:11):
Yess.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, good morning to you.

Speaker 8 (02:14):
Ashley, Ryan is here, Lucky Jacobson and Knuckie Powell as well.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Whoops.

Speaker 8 (02:19):
As we get things started here on a Thursday, we
take it till ten o'clock this morning. Uh, and we've
got the round table and so much more to a
breakdown today. You do know, I mean here we sit
on a Thursday. We are one week away from Thanksgiving.
Are you too prepared? No, you are not prepared. It's
probably important that you be prepared. I think your family
relies on you a lot.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Ashley.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, I host it. Yeah, I haven't figured out yet.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Five iron's gonna get stuff done. No chance.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
You know why you're not prepared? Why because you started
preparing for Christmas already.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I haven't haven't even prepared for Christmas.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
You got a Christmas tree up? Nope, I do.

Speaker 10 (02:55):
I've got no Christmas decorations up at all. It's the Yeah,
usually I have winter decorations. By now, I've done nothing,
literally nothing.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I even have a Christmas present under the truth.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
To you, I love that. I'm so jealous.

Speaker 6 (03:07):
That is just wrong. So you better damn well be
prepared for Thanksgiving? Oh fully, okay, fully fully fully?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
But are you yeah? Well, I mean, are you just
gonna wild turkey the night of the day.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
Yeah, I didn't know if you were.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Just like, don't worry, Kate, I'm a real.

Speaker 8 (03:27):
Dead eye, new head out at the dark and early
on Thursday morn.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
No Nnkei's on the case old.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Uh old butcher shop.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
It's actually a family of my high school girlfriend runs
the old Hermiston butcher shop called Follet Meats.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
That right, and they you almost married a butcher's butchers.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Imagine your life if you were just living in.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
I saw that man every time I went over the
house because it's right beside their house and he come
wandering over with a like an apron on, just bloody
butcher knife in his hand. I'm not going to make
out with your girlfriend not near your home.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
On one hand, you are dating, or you're going to try
and have relations with a young woman whose dad owns
the sharpest cleavers in town. On the other hand, think
about all the meat you could have.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
That's all I was thinking of.

Speaker 6 (04:24):
Yeah, ma'am, you meat.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Screwed this up. Yeah, I love Kate all that free
meat exactly.

Speaker 8 (04:33):
Just keep your pants if once you're married, he's not
going to come after you with him.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
Yeah, it's been all about it. Yeah, and then grandkids.
More meat.

Speaker 10 (04:40):
You would just have like seven meat fridges and freezers.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Uh huh having to lift a finger. Now look at you.

Speaker 8 (04:46):
Now you got to go out on Thanksgiving morning and
shoot a turkey?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Did I make that up to.

Speaker 9 (04:54):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (04:54):
You know I Actually it's just her. Her brother, his
son now runs the meat place, the butcher shop, and
he is smoking three turkeys and sending them up to me. Well,
they're so good. We had one last year and I said,
why do we only have this smoke turkey once a year?

(05:15):
And so now we're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna use
two at Thanksgiving and then have one frozen, and probably,
you know, a month later, we'll probably bust that one.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Out again Christmas. Yeah, that's a good time.

Speaker 8 (05:25):
I love the uh I reading unto this. I love
the fact that had you married his daughter, the butcher
would have sent you probably the biggest Thanksgiving turkey every.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Year that he had in the shop. Oh yeah, but
I love it even more that because you didn't marry her,
he thanks you by giving you three turkeys.

Speaker 6 (05:51):
Weaved her way, and thank you, thank you for now,
thank you for I think there's a really good chance
that had that relationship last, and I might be working
at the butcher shop.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Oh how would you affair it as a butcher?

Speaker 6 (06:06):
I'd be as fine. Uh yeah, I would not have
liked it as much as I like doing this.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah I know that.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
Yeah, well, slaughtering animals, I mean I don't get nearly.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
As bloody doing that as you do this. Yeah I
know that much.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah that is true.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
This is way more gory. Oh.

Speaker 10 (06:24):
I'm thinking about as the meat sticks I left in
my car and how I should have brought them up here.

Speaker 6 (06:28):
Oh oh, they make the best pepperoni.

Speaker 8 (06:30):
Yeah, yeah, Is that all you've done for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Five iron?

Speaker 8 (06:35):
Will you please carve the meat stick? No, there would
be some dark meat, you know how much I like dark.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I only have three meat six left. We won't to
have any for Thanksgiving be gone.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I'm worried about you. You are usually better prepared than this.
You are what this sound.

Speaker 8 (06:50):
Let this warning ring in your ears, Ryan, that you've
got seven days to get this thing together, and you
do not want to be shopping while all the latecomers,
Johnny come laser shopping.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
And that's what I'm saying. You are right.

Speaker 10 (07:02):
I am worried like and I, of all of us,
I should not be unprepared because I start like I
host a Christmas music station that started on November first.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh wow, So I have no excuse for not knowing.
I do a countdown to Thanksgiving and Christmas every darn day.
I know how far away it is. I've even talked.

Speaker 10 (07:20):
I've been looking upside dish recipes and things. I don't
know why, because I never go, I never veer. I
know exactly what I'm going to end up making. I
just haven't planned any of it yet.

Speaker 8 (07:29):
And you are also a woman, which we men rely
on very heavily to be responsible because it allows us
not to be.

Speaker 10 (07:37):
Maybe some that might be one of your guys's dumber decisions.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Actually, you guys think we've got it all together or
are supposed to you? Oh man, yeah, we do.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Well.

Speaker 8 (07:48):
I don't know I would get cracking. I I think
I will seven days.

Speaker 10 (07:52):
Yeah, but I got friends Giving before that. I got
to come up with what I'm bringing.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
On Saturday, Devil Thanks.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
I do friends give?

Speaker 8 (08:00):
Oh yeah, is that like you just get together and
watch friends or you know.

Speaker 10 (08:05):
You're out a friend's house with like thirty friends. I
think I'm going to bring bowlonnais.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Oh that's the that's that discussion.

Speaker 10 (08:12):
Yeah, I think I'm gonna bring bolonnais because everyone else
swooped up all the other side dishes, So why not
bring something?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Why not put a twist in Thanksgiving? Surprise everything.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
I think you're going to end up being the hit
for that idea.

Speaker 8 (08:23):
I think that maybe the Turkey gods, the Thanksgiving gods
may mock you, but you know, you know, you'll be
sitting back there with a smile on your face as
your dish is the first one empty.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Okay, yeah, I'll take that.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (08:35):
And the nice thing is and then I'll probably if
I save some at home after I make it, then
we can have dinner for the next night.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
And I ain't got to cook.

Speaker 8 (08:41):
Just went out to dinner last night with a you know,
and and gotten to know the staff at this particular
place a little bit. And so, uh, there's a husband
wife team that works there together. One's a bartender, one's
the server, and they're doing their Thanksgiving and they're doing ribs.
Oh see, yeah, they're doing just ribs, ribs and beer.

(09:02):
We do beef tenderlin every year for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, and she's a former chef, so she's making side dishes.
And I'm like that sounds like an amazing thing right there.

Speaker 10 (09:11):
Because people don't really care if there's turkey on the
table usually, yeah, just some of us do.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah turkey I too.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
But yeah, I don't know. I don't want to trust.
First of all, I don't want to put that on.

Speaker 10 (09:24):
Yeah, I'm the only one that would eat it, and
nobody else cares about it, so I just don't make it.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (09:28):
Yeah, and uh, and if you do, screw it up, boy,
you you really Turkey's not.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Good as a lot easier to cook a tender loin.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
That's the beauty of this one is you get it.
It's as you already cook, just ye warm it up. Yeah,
and you can even Yeah I.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Didn't almost marry a butcher's daughter though, Well.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
The connection should have you messed up on that one.
You can like debone it beforehand while it's cold, because
that's the hard Part's like, you know, when it's hot
and you're burning your fingers try to get it all
carved up. You can do it beforehand and then just
throw that in and just warm it up. And oh,
I just love the leftover spart too. Basically, yeah, I'm
gonna basically have turkey from now through like two weeks

(10:08):
after Christmas.

Speaker 10 (10:09):
Okay, I'm not, but I did see something that there's
a new sauce that's like leftover gravy that you can
use for your left your day after turkey sandwich.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
It's like a squeezable gravy.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Oh really, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Might be good? Might be?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
I would imagine it's not very good for you. Probably
is it called heart attack?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's that's what they call good for you?

Speaker 6 (10:35):
But who cares?

Speaker 8 (10:37):
All right, well, anyway, this let this serve as a
warning to you all. We are just still one week
away from actual Thanksgiving Day. And despite the fact that
I am prepared, that was actually kind of as I
was thinking about that this morning, like wow, one week
away from Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (10:54):
And football of course a huge part about that. And
and for some people, you know, I think back to
Draftmas as we get close here to Thanksgiving, as we
get ready for Seahawks Titans this week, and how cam
Ward kind of overtook Remember remember remember last Draftmas when

(11:18):
when cam Ward and Shador Sanders were once in a
conversation about who's.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Going to be the number one overall pick?

Speaker 6 (11:27):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (11:27):
And then we finally got to draft Day and cam
Ward was the number one pick and Shador Sanders slips
all the way to the fifth round. Well, for the
first time, they're going to be starting on the same
day of the National Football League. We'll be facing cam
Ward the number one pick out of Miami slash Washington State,

(11:49):
and Shadoor Sanders makes his debut as a starter out
of complete necessity. It just goes to show you in
the National Football League, my goodness, I mean, remember way
back at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
It's a dream within a dream.

Speaker 8 (12:07):
I like this, remember the beginning of the year when
the Browns like, what are they gonna do with all
those quarterbacks? They've got five of them on the roster
and the fifth one is going to start this week
because everybody else has been injured or traded, and so you,
I guess you can't have enough quarterbacks. But Shador Sanders

(12:27):
is finally going to get his start in the National
Football League, and I'm I'm actually so happy about it, Like,
let's see what the kid can play, because I don't
know if I have ever come across a prospect that
has created more polarizing analysis than Shador Sanders. The people

(12:48):
that believe in him are so angry of the way
he's been treated and he hasn't been allowed to play
to this point, and the people that hate him are
so angry about his attitude and his preparation and the
fact that he thought that he should just be ushered
to the front of the line. I like to believe

(13:10):
that I'm somewhere in the middle, but I am feeling
like I am one of the few. It feels like
you just are either angry at Shador and want to
see him crash and burn, or you're on the other
side and you think that it's undoubtedly he's the best
quarterback in this class, and he's been screwed over by
Cleveland and Stefanski and they've totally botched this and the

(13:31):
league's conspiring against the Sanders family.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Hey, it is really extreme, and so finally we're gonna
get some evidence as to whether or not this guy
can play at the professional level. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
I mean, and I gave, you know, basically kind of
throw away the fact how we played last week when
he hasn't had any reps to really work with people.
When he gets to come in, so you know, he
throws a pick and it didn't look good necessarily, But
now he's gonna have a week and I just think
it still should be tempered to some degree. I think
those that I suppose if you're on that end of

(14:02):
the spectrum where you think he's the greatest and he's
been screwed and everybody's conspiring against him, well then you
kind of got to stand on business and expect him
to go out there and just turn around the Cleveland
Browns offense.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, those are the same people that think dude wise,
Dylan Gabriel, look at him. He's out there and he's terrible,
and he's like, well, he's gonna be playing with the
same grip that Shador is going. So that's what I'm
saying this is, I don't hold anything against him last
week because that was I gotta check in. I didn't
practice with the ones as my first start ever. I mean,
we have a bad team.

Speaker 8 (14:36):
But this week you actually do get to compare Shadoor
Sanders at least against Dylan Gabriel. And so for those
that were critical of Dylan Gabriel this entire time, and
he shouldn't be starting, well, to save your face, not Chadors,
but to save your face, he better be damn good on.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
Sunday against the Raiders. Yeah, and good luck, because you're right,
I don't think you get to switch out. I don't
think he gets to bring, you know, pick, choose some
players he wants to surround himself with. You get the
same group of dudes that have only found a way
to win two games this season, And so I mean
I'm interested. I mean I would say that because of
all of the hoop law that surrounded from Draft miss,

(15:14):
which basically kicked it off until now the rise and
fall during the draft, and then all of a sudden,
the weirdness that was the Cleveland Browns and the fact
that they took two quarterbacks in the draft and have
old guys in front of them and they're trading dudes
and just all everything that they did at that position
to now find yourself with seven games left, and I

(15:35):
mean I was thinking to myself, like, how are you
even going to find out who, if any of these
guys are the guys right? Because they were going to
be so far down on the depth chart and yet
now you're finding out No. Not, I mean, it's not
like you're getting to all right, we got two games
left in the season, we're out of it. We just
got to see what shouduor Sanders can do. I mean
Shoudouer Sanders for him. To me, I would think this

(15:57):
is the way you would have painted it once the
draft went the way that it went. This is the
way you would have kind of hoped, not that you're
hoping for injuries necessarily, but this is the way you
would have drawn it up as all right, Well, hopefully
I get my opportunity, Hopefully it's with enough time left
in the season to where if I go out there
and I just show you, guys all made a mistake
the NFL, you made a mistake letting me slip to

(16:18):
the fifth round, then all of a sudden you get
to kind of rewrite whatever your story is. So here's
your opportunity, kid, good luck because you don't have a
great team around you. But he can still walk there
and play well enough to say this is my job.

Speaker 10 (16:31):
Yeah, definitely intrigued to watch it, and I'm I think
I am with you.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I don't hate him, I don't love him.

Speaker 10 (16:36):
Yeah, so that's what I'm saying, I'm with you, kind
of in that middle ground, yep, where yeah, I've been
consistent with that.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (16:42):
Well, I'm intrigued and I want to see. I mean,
first of all, I don't want anyone. I don't want
most people to fail. I don't want to say I
don't want anyone to fail. There are some people I
want to fail, but I don't want him to fail
by any means. And so if he could come out
and do what and be successful after being the fifth
round pick, and you know, having all of that, which
I would assume or hope humbled him a little bit

(17:03):
because that was the My main issue with him is
you're acting like you've been there before and you haven't.
And he got slapped down for yeah exactly. So I
I mean, we've heard about in training camp that his death.
He was like, no, Dad, I don't want you to
come here, like I got to do this on my own.
So I think he's in a better place. So I
am intrigued to see how he does.

Speaker 8 (17:22):
Yeah, well, I to me, I mean, considering how this
much this has been discussed, and it has been discussed
way too much for a guy fourth on the depth
chart at the beginning of training camp, entirely too much.
I don't even understand what the big argument about is about.

(17:42):
It's really very clear Trador Sanders was not viewed by
teams as a no doubt face of the franchise first
round draft pick. You know, pour ourselves into this.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
He wasn't. The NFL didn't evaluate him that way. So
if you are an NFL evaluator, if you're a draft evaluator,
you missed on this one.

Speaker 8 (18:05):
So the milk Kuipers of the world just need to
own it. Hugh Millen came on our show during Draft mess.
He had it nailed. I just don't see a first
round draft pick. But he also didn't see a fifth
round draft. He was expecting should order to go certainly
on day number two and probably earlier than later. And
so the fact that he slipped to the fifth is
because of all the things that you said. We can't

(18:27):
have somebody that came into the league blew off interviews,
thinks he's entitled to the position. You know, has monogram pillows,
when he hasn't even completed a pass, and we're going
to put him in a backup role because that's a distraction.
And so he went from you're not good enough for
us to take you with a first round pick because

(18:50):
we just don't convince that you got face of the franchise.
I mean, you might have them, but we just aren't
convinced you've got face of the franchise kind of stuff
to your game. And yet there's no way he was
as bad as a fifth round pick. He suffered that
indignity because of the way that he treated the process,

(19:10):
and that team's thought, I don't want him as a
backup either, because backup, I don't need my backup to
be a distraction.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
And he's been a distraction. He's been nothing but a
distraction through no fault of his own, really, or for
through little fault of his own since he got to Cleveland.
So I think it's a very clear case, and I
don't know why there's the anger on both sides. I
think you're both wrong, Frankly and us here in the middle,
I think have the better grasp of it. All right,

(19:39):
let's find out what's on tap for the rest of
the show. What's on TEP?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
What's on TEP?

Speaker 8 (19:46):
All right, Seahawks Titans this Sunday at ten am. Twelfth
Man Round Table comes your way today from eight to nine,
so an hour with Greg and Hughes will break it
all down for you. The week in the National Football
League starts tonight Buffalo Bills taking on the Houston te
CJ Stroud missing another game for the Houston Texans. There
have battled back to five hundred, but they still have
a ways to go to become a playoff team. Mike

(20:09):
Sande will join us today at nine point thirty to
discuss it. We'll also discuss with him Joe Burrow, who
might start this week for the Cincinnati Bengals. As a
matter of fact, it feels like he's going to start
this week for the National Football League. He wasn't just
a participant in practice yesterday, he was a full participant
in practice yesterday. And Joe Flacco actually might be the

(20:31):
more injured of the two quarterbacks. So Joe Burrow might
start this week for the Cincinnati Bengals. College football soft
field drop by at seven oh five, we'll talk Huskies
in UCLA. Krackner in Chicago today to take on another
baby face superstar in the National Hockey League, Connor Badard,
the red hot Connor Badard and the Chicago Blackhawks and
the stove.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Well, it is already a cooking.

Speaker 8 (20:54):
Another trade, not all that significant last night, but significant
enough that we're starting to get like a move a
day in Major League Baseball, which is a boy.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
It's like gluttony.

Speaker 8 (21:06):
We we don't get this much hot stove activity this
early in the process, not in the modern day.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
So the Thanksgiving feasts, I'm loving it.

Speaker 8 (21:15):
And yesterday on the program, Jerry Depoto was our guest
in the nine o'clock hour. If you missed it, we're
going to replace some of it for you next on
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
I mean that like when I'm sometime around two am, three,
four thirty am, You're gonna I'm gonna wake up, and
I'm gonna think it was just.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
A nightmare, you know that.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Like, and then finally when I'm up and just kind
of starting to move around, but I'm feeling half dead,
at around seven thirty eight o'clock, I'm gonna realize, yeah,
that we just blew a chance to beat one of
the best teams down two studs, and in a game
that we were down thirteen and wobbling.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
I'll say I did. That's a tamer Dan Hurley than
what we watched and heard last year.

Speaker 10 (22:05):
I couldn't put in the part where you ripped up
the stat sheet when someone was asking him about the
numbers and started laughing at them because you couldn't hear
the person speaking, so it wouldn't have made a lot
of sense.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
No, Yeah, but it's also improvement. It's also early in
the season. That's improvement early in the season.

Speaker 8 (22:18):
There was actually some great college basketball last night, including
my line, I just coming up a little bit short
against Alabama ninety to eighty six. Arizona did win over
Yukon last night in College Hoops seventy one sixty seven.
The Huskies don't play again until the twenty seventh, So
is that are they gonna really plan on Thanksgiving?

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Softy said yes in Palm Desert.

Speaker 11 (22:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Oh, I'll be damn h well happy Thanksgiving Fighting Sprinkles,
it's Chuck buck Ashley with you as we get things
started here at seven o'clock on a Thursday.

Speaker 8 (22:52):
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Gray's Abel's knee, But the Seahawks a thirteen and a
half point favorite going into that game on the road
against a one to nine football team. Tonight, the Buffalo

(23:16):
Bills are taking on the Houston Texans, who are still
without c J.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Stroud.

Speaker 8 (23:20):
So that's your Thursday night football game to get things
started this week. The Cincinnati Bengals of course play this
week as well, and Cincinnati might have a new quarterback.
Joe Burrow is at full practice this week as the
Bengals get ready to host the New England Patriots. As
a matter of fact, there's a report suggesting he's healthier

(23:42):
than his backup Joe Flacco. So Joe Burrow, believe it
or not, who we thought might have been lost for
the season with a toe injury at the beginning of
the year, might be healthy enough to start this Sunday
against the Patriots. College football Husky's taken on UCLA. We'll
certainly talk about that with so the and the Crackner
in Chicago tonight to take on the Blackhawks and the

(24:04):
red hot Connor Badard. So we'll talk about that later
on in the program as well. But right now, shrag
up the man. Uh oh oh, did we do another collab?
We have another collab last night?

Speaker 1 (24:17):
No, I'm just tired O.

Speaker 9 (24:19):
It's gonna happen in my age, man, come on every
now and then.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, you're wearing down a little bit.

Speaker 9 (24:24):
You know, I might need to call your boy doctor
Cougler maybe figure that out.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
Yeah, I bet you do have sleep apnea?

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Are you snoring? Gena complaining?

Speaker 6 (24:33):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (24:34):
Hang on, hey, honey, do I snore? He says, yes,
I could. Okay, is the dog that I think needs
to see doctor Kugler. Oh does he work on animals too?
I don't mean he works on you? Why not?

Speaker 1 (24:46):
That's true. Yeah, I'll look into it. I'll make a call.
I'll see what I can do.

Speaker 9 (24:53):
Let me know. I mean, he might be able to
make the entire KJR lineup sleep better.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
We could all use it. I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 9 (25:00):
Right, you can'll do a sleep study together.

Speaker 8 (25:02):
It's a grumpy lot. I mean, I'm telling you a
grumpy group of humans.

Speaker 9 (25:07):
Just all jam into a hotel room somewhere and just
you know, get one of those California Kings or whatever
the hell they're called.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
We should do a sleepover. It's time for a kJ
R sleepover.

Speaker 9 (25:17):
I was gonna say, your last time you guys had
a real true sleepover, buddies come over, you pitch a
tent in the backyard, you stay up all night eating.

Speaker 6 (25:29):
Yeah, weird pitching tents.

Speaker 8 (25:30):
That's a long time ago for that. But yeah, I
think I mean crashed at a buddy's house with others
within the last ten years of my life.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Probably.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (25:43):
By the way, when I say yeah, last year, actually
put a tent up.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
Oh you mean like a camping tent. Okay, good? I
didn't know. I didn't know how, and your buddies getting, Hey,
we don't. That's how we raise eyebrows. No, you said it,
roll up out there, roll up?

Speaker 2 (26:05):
You thought it creep?

Speaker 1 (26:06):
He says, all right.

Speaker 9 (26:11):
Well as longer is left of this segment, speaking.

Speaker 8 (26:13):
Of Boner's, Speaking of Boner's, how excited are you over
Josh Naylor yesterday?

Speaker 9 (26:21):
Boy, the first thing you thought, I said when you
said Boners is Mark James selling Boner pills and sandwiches
on his radio.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Show, whispering them, whispering sweet, nothing's in our ears getting
the group chat.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, he's a turkey. He's not invited to the sleep
not doing that.

Speaker 9 (26:39):
Oh god. I was very excited, very very excited about
Josh Naylor. You know, I don't know, man. I guess
I was kind of one of the people that expected
it to happen. There was a small small part of
you that was dreading it not happening. I guess, because
sometimes things happen. But I I I was. I could
not have imagined, guys, the alternative, which is him not

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being here next year, right, I mean, for a baseball
team that is so timid when it comes to free agency,
and you know, doling out money in free agency and
long term contracts. I mean, I think a lot of
people in the industry were a little bit surprised at
the five years, for example, But I'm totally fine with that,
right Like, you know, the guy can hit here, you

(27:21):
know what he brings to the table. Everybody loves him.
He's a great clubhouse presidence, he likes, actually enjoys hitting
at T Mobile Park, which what kind of weirdo enjoys
hitting at T Mobile Park? He does, And you're gonna
worry about what kind of contract you gotta pay him
in two thousand and thirty, right at eighteen and a

(27:42):
half million, When what is that tenth right now in baseball?
I think average per year for first basement and in
five years it might not even be in the top
thirty or top twenty in baseball. You know who knows
where that contract is in twenty thirty. So I loved it.
Good for them, but they can't be done. They got
more holes to fill, and I hope that they can
fill them.

Speaker 8 (28:01):
Oh, I give you credit because I remember listening to
the Softy and Dick Fane radio program. You were on
this very early about to extend this guy, Sign this guy.
I don't think you were as early as Bucky, but
you were on it very early.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
Geez well I was. You're right there, you're right there.
I mean you're only like a year behind. I was
wanting them to trade for him, sign him, extend him
back when he was like with Cleveland.

Speaker 9 (28:26):
I wanted him when he was an embryo.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Oh you did.

Speaker 8 (28:28):
Then you win winner Snorway. I take that back, softie one.

Speaker 9 (28:32):
I've got moles and hospitals all over the country.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Lucky wanted him in his past life.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
You had him all the way up in Canada. Your
mole was up in Canada.

Speaker 9 (28:40):
I did, makes sense, I got I got agents all
over the place, man, I bet you do.

Speaker 6 (28:44):
Actually, no, it's.

Speaker 9 (28:45):
A phenomenal deal for them. It's a great deal for him,
you know. I mean, just think about this dude's life lately, right,
I mean, the guy gets traded to a contender, he
goes to Game seven of the ALCS, almost goes to
the World Series, has a baby, and now he's got
ninety million in his in his pocket. So must be nice,
Must be nice?

Speaker 6 (29:06):
Man?

Speaker 1 (29:07):
All right, Well, let's let's talk.

Speaker 9 (29:08):
Let me ask you guys a question, real quick a
fight if you don't mind well for questions getting tossed around, like, uh,
is this enough? Right? If this is when we say
all they do? You know, they made the deal for
the bullpen arm from the Dodgers the other day. Uh,
they brought in Hoppy obviously, and you know who knows
what kind of effect and impacts those deals will have.

(29:29):
I think a lot of times guys probably agree that
they make deals like they made the last couple of
days for some relievers, and they don't even really register
on the radar, Like when the Mariners traded for Bizardo
what was it, middle of twenty three, I think it
was with Baltimore whatever, right, Nobody even really said anything.
It was like, okay, whatever, And then two years later
the guy is phenomenal for them. Obviously he had the

(29:51):
hiccup in Game seven, but I'd say we all agree
that he was really good for them this year, especially
in the second half of the year. I'd be curious
to see what kind of role those play 's play.
But I do think right field, I do think second base,
I do think d H, and I do think third
or all positions that you're going to have to try
and address at least over the offseason. I'd like to
see them at even a little more starting pitching depth,

(30:13):
to be totally honest with you, compared to what they've
had in years past, it's not I think good enough
right now, especially if guys get banged up. But are
we totally now content if we get to early April
and this is it of significance.

Speaker 8 (30:26):
Well, that long list of yours is not theirs. There's
this very short compared to yours. Yeah. No, I think
I think they're going to try to get Polanco or Suarez,
and I wouldn't expect too much else.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Honestly, I wouldn't expect too much.

Speaker 9 (30:39):
Are you okay with that?

Speaker 8 (30:41):
I think that after what they did a year ago,
I mean, we've already had a better offseason than we
had last offseason, it's all. I mean, we're not even
a Thanksgiving and we've already beaten that.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
Right.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
So, since it.

Speaker 8 (30:52):
Worked out last year where they actually made their significant
moves at the deadline to address the holes that they had,
and they address to aggressively, I think they really liked
that blueprint. I think they're going to try to bring
back Polanco or Suarez. I think they will add something,
but it's not gonna be some laundry list that they're
gonna check off that's gonna make everybody happy. I think

(31:14):
for the most part they told us that. I think
for the most part, they're just going to try to
run it back, which I'm alright with.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm alright with it.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
Yeah, I'm fine with that too. I mean, I don't
think you necessarily need to do anything in right field.
I think hopefully Robust is healthy, and then I liked
things about Canzone. There's still his room for improvement there, obviously.
I think second base, you've got to you can give
some of these youngsters Cole young you know, Bliss, we'll
be back. You get some opportunities, give them some opportunities.

(31:42):
I do think you have to address something else, but
that's where I'm with Chuck. I think if you go out,
if you can get Polonko to come back, that could
be an opportunity. At third It didn't work out this year,
but it doesn't mean it couldn't. He was recovering from
an injury in spring training, so he never really got
off on a good foot there. But at a minimum,
he feels your DH role like you did this year

(32:02):
and then yeah, you can still kind of tinker with that.
See if you have any young guys rise to the occasion.
If not, then you still have the trade deadline.

Speaker 9 (32:09):
It's kind of like it's kind of like on draft
Day for the Seahawks, right like when the Hawks have
like the fifteenth pick in the draft or whatever, excuse me,
and we look at all these projected for well, you
can just cross all those guys off because they're not
taking any of those guys. Right on draft day, all
those projected first rounders, all those mocks. You know, whoever's
got this guy going fifteen, that guy going fifteen, anybody
between ten and thirty, just cross them off. There's no

(32:29):
way the Hawks will get any of those guys. It'll
be somebody nobody's ever heard of, or they'll trade down.
So you know, you think about like Schwarber for example,
that dh forget about it, Kyle Tucker, forget about it.
Even like Okamoto at third or you know, Murakami. You know,
I'd love to know how much interest they have in
those Japanese guys. I mean, my god, I mean they've
got you know, great connections obviously in their organization with

(32:51):
Japan so those would be names that I would look at.
But I'm kind of with you. I just feel like,
just check, check, check. There's no way they'll sign any
of those guys. So let's go down a list and
see what kind of deals.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Like I would have loved to have Murrah COMI. So
I don't rule it out, but I don't count on
it either. All right, let's talk some dogs.

Speaker 8 (33:08):
They'll play UCLA this Saturday, actually a Big ten rival, that's.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
A rival that we have a little bit of history with.
Do you want to eat history?

Speaker 8 (33:17):
Do you want to see Jonah Coleman or do you
want to see more of this Jordan Washington kid getting
the ball?

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (33:23):
Well, I mean look, I just think it's important for
these guys to figure out what the hell they're doing
on the road before the season ends. I mean, can
you imagine if the Huskies go on the road on
Saturday and get beat and and look sloppy again? This
is going to be now two years with Jetfish where
they have not been able to figure out what the
hell they're doing away from Husky Stadium. Right, they would

(33:43):
have the one win over Wazoo, and then they would
have the great second half against Maryland. And that's pretty
much about it, right as far as the road goes.
And all they did the entire offseason talking about jet
now is talk about well, you know, we did all
these sleep studies and we called Coogler and we dealt
with the airlines that we figured out, you know, how
big are players' asses are, and how they fit in

(34:06):
the seats and should they all be first class seats
and what kind of food are they eating? And I
called Mike McDonald and went on a camping trip with
him and we love it, and nothing worked right. So
I think they got to figure this out, man, because
it's hard to take these guys seriously if they're not
able to travel. I mean, how can you take anybody
seriously as even a contender for anything in the Big

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ten if they don't show up on the road. So
that number one is for me on Saturday. Number two,
they've lost nine to ten against UCLA at the Rolls Bawl,
ten of eleven if you include the lost to Ohio
State and Dwayne Haskins and the actual rules Bawl six
years ago. And then number three, yeah, I mean I'd
love to see Jordan Washington get a few more carries
and see what the kid can do, because you think

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you would get you excited about the future, but then
you throw in the idea that well, the transfer portal,
the coaching movement is you know, back in the day,
five even, hell even five years ago, right, Chuck, we
could look at Jordan Washington or any young player on
any roster in college football and say, well, we're not
having a great year, but at the very least we
got a young core that's all guaranteed to come back.

(35:10):
We can't say that anymore. Yeah, I hate it, right,
I hate it.

Speaker 11 (35:14):
Man.

Speaker 9 (35:15):
It's like, guys, can you imagine if the twenty twelve
Seahawk team was a college football team in twenty twenty
five and all those guys could leave, all those young
dudes that we were so fired up about after that
game with Atlanta. Man, they came so close to making
the NFC Championship and then a bunch of guys take off.
So look, I mean, I'm not saying I'm spending the

(35:37):
entire you twenty four to seven thinking about it, but
there's gonna be movement, and depending on coaching changes, there
could be a lot of movements. So I think right now,
I'm just focused on just trying to get these guys
to maybe eight or nine wins, and I think that'd
be a hell of an accomplishment after the roster that
Jed inherited when he got hired.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
How are you feeling about I mean, just the idea
of the health of the offense. We've seen this offense
explode and then we've seen it sputter at times, typically
when they're on the road, like you were talking about.
But health wise, are they gonna be okay? Are they
gonna be able to go put up some numbers?

Speaker 9 (36:09):
Yeah? I think Coleman, I think is gonna play Denzel.
I don't know. Lannon Hatchet's got a cast on his
snapping hand. That's got to be figured out. So obviously
they had some issues with handing at center. As far
as the shotgun snaps, I mean, they're playing produced Bucky,
so they could get away with it. I mean, they're awful,
you know. I actually kind of feel bad for them.

(36:30):
They've lost like seventeen games in a row and the
Big Ten. They haven't won a Big Ten games since
the end of the twenty twenty three season, and I
don't know how much of a different animal. This will
be I mean, it will be different. They're not playing obviously,
you know, Ohio State or Georgia, but they're playing a
team that's got some talent. They just have not been
able to figure it out, kind of like the Huskies have,

(36:52):
and they're gonna be getting a little bit of a break.
Two of the last three teams the Bruins have played
have been the number one and number two team in
America in Indiana and Ohio State. Right, so, just like
Wisconsin a couple weeks ago, you can kind of argue
that maybe UCLA is getting a little bit of a
reprieve here against U Dubs. So I think the spread's
way too high. I'd probably take the Bruins and the

(37:14):
points if I were betting this game, which I'm not.
Nico scares me just because there's nobody really like him
in the conference, and I don't know if the Huskies
have faced to quarterback even close to him athletically. But yeah,
I mean, weird stuff, man. Husky fans will tell you
weird stuff happens down there at the Rolls Bowl, just
like he used to have weird stuff happening at Stanford

(37:34):
and Arizona State and Arizona. So just the history of
this place kind of creeps me out.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Man, and those Stanford people are just weird.

Speaker 9 (37:41):
They are very very weird people, not even actual humans,
like some other kind of category. Not sure what it is.

Speaker 8 (37:50):
Let me use the last couple of minutes we got
here to ask you this because I'm very curious. You know,
the man when sark goes on Texas radio and says,
I am.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I'm not going anywhere, stop spreading rumors. Do you believe him?

Speaker 9 (38:03):
I do? I do believe him, Okay, I do, yeah,
because I think that's I don't remember him saying anything
like that when he was at U DUB before he
went to USC. And don't forget USC. The guy's from California, right,
I mean, just like Klein de Bor going to Alabama.
It sucks, but I think you get it, you know, like,
all right, you're going from you dub to Alabama, and
if you're Steve Sarkisian, you're gonna go coach back home
at USC right where you're from. So I think all

(38:25):
that makes sense. But yeah, I mean I think I
think Steve Sarkisian when he comes out and says I'm
not going anywhere, when Dan Lanning comes out and says
there's a zero percent chance of me leaving Oregon, which
I know, you know, gives Bucky, you know, a little
tingly feeling, right like hearing that, that's the kind of
stuff I kinda would like to hear Jed say, to
be honest with you, honestly, I mean, talks about you know,

(38:49):
all the players and how great they are, and then
like fourth or fifth on the list, it's oh, we
love Seattle, right, So I'd love to see him be
a little more adamant, hell even lie to me for
God's sakes, right, But yeah, no, I believe Sark when
he says you believe him.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
I don't know. I don't know Alim as well as you.
I don't know if I believe anybody.

Speaker 9 (39:08):
Well, that's exactly it. I think everybody in the end
is full of it, including us. You know, I don't
know you can trust him bother talking.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Oh you can trust me?

Speaker 6 (39:17):
Yeah? Really?

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (39:18):
Yeah, yeah, I think I can trust you. And you
say everybody's full of crap that that I trust? I mean,
but keep in mind I haven't I haven't worked directly
with Sark in how many years now We're going back
what ten years, ten eleven years? So you know, I
saw him a little bit at the Sugar Bowl. Obviously,
he's he's been up and down with his life. I
don't know if you guys know that he actually married

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Malex Smith's sister and they've been together now for a while.
I think they were gonna get divorced and got back together,
but went through his fight with alcoholism and very public
and all that stuff. But yeah, I believe him when
he says he's staying there.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
All right, Well, promote something. What do we got going
on on the program?

Speaker 9 (39:57):
Today Show Today with Hockey the Blame Cox and Connor Badard.
No relation to Eric Badard coming up this afternoon, at
least I don't think they're related. No, maybe like Eric Baard,
Connor Bodard is only going to play like two fifths
of the game to night against the cracket. That'd be nice.
I'd go for that. So that's coming up faced off

(40:18):
at five Mike Holmgrin gonna join us from the five
twenty Bar and Grill, and then more from Rick new
Heisl obviously at three twenty courtesy at Taco time. Why
don't you guys get your ass to the five twenty
one of these days and hang out with us.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yeah, that'd be fun, Yeah, would be Yeah.

Speaker 9 (40:31):
I know your naps are over by then.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
So yeah, we want to do it. We gotta do it.

Speaker 9 (40:35):
Come on by, Ashley, Chuck Buck, Come on.

Speaker 8 (40:38):
I almost went last week, but yeah, I wanted to
a bit of a Thursday tradition.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
But you're right. I know what's your tradition.

Speaker 8 (40:44):
I got my little local bar and watch Thursday night
football at my local bar.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
But you could.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I'll go to your local bar one thousand percent. You're
absolutely right about that.

Speaker 9 (40:54):
What's your local bar? Do you want to give out
the name?

Speaker 1 (40:56):
It's the Kitchen? Okay, yeah, so you'll be there every third.
Shut up, all right, I'll talk to you later.

Speaker 6 (41:08):
All right.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
There, there he is, David.

Speaker 8 (41:09):
Softy Mall joining us here on the radio program. We're
gonna play some Factor fiction at seven thirty five BUCkies
pick today and we will hear from Sark as a
matter of fact, find out how adamant he is that
he is not leaving Austin, Texas. Next Sports Radio ninety
three point three kh A RFM. It's Chuck Buck and
Ashley with you here on this Thursday It's time for

(41:32):
our twelfth man round table with our Seahawks insider Greg
Bill and also our QB one and also music Efficionado
as well.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, Hugh Millan's at all this.

Speaker 8 (41:42):
Yeah, he's like Casey casem who can break down a
pass pattern.

Speaker 12 (41:49):
Oddly love music, But if you offered me one thousand
dollars to go to a piano and press the c
I'd have a one in sixteen chance.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
You can appreciate Mozart. You just aren't Mozart something like that. Yeah,
all right, Well, good to have you guys with us.

Speaker 8 (42:07):
It's time to round table it up here on a Thursday,
and we got a lot to discuss. Let's go back
to Sunday, a two point loss to the Los Angeles Rams,
four turnovers in the game by Sam Darnold and the Seahawks,
and then of course still had a chance to win
the game late. So Greg, I'll just start big picture

(42:27):
question with you, and rarely do we start with a
big quick picture question, but we're a few days.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Removed from it.

Speaker 8 (42:33):
What do we think we learned about the Seahawks on
Sunday At this stage in the process, they go ahead
to add against the team they need to beat eventually
to take this division, made it close, shot themselves in
a foot a few times. Where do we think the
Seahawks sit after having played such a big regular season game.

Speaker 13 (42:52):
Big picture, they're fine for the playoffs. They're going to
be eight and three after this weekend in Nashville. But
the bigger can concern is they still are below the
Rams and the forty nine ers, and that means road
playoff games, Wildcard maybe one win, and then a second
round game in Philadelphia Detroit and see you later. That's

(43:13):
been their history for the last ten years. And so
if you take that as a bigger picture and then
narrow down what they've done since to try to fix that.
They fired Pete Carroll, they brought in two new offensive
coordinators in two years. They traded their quarterback, they signed
a new quarterback to one hundred million dollar contract. They

(43:33):
redid the defense with Ernest Jones in the trade last year,
and nick Eman Worry and so on.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
All the changes they've made. As we sit right here right.

Speaker 13 (43:43):
Now, there's still no better in their own division, and
that's damning. But they are much closer to being better
than the Rams and the forty nine ers than they've
been in a decade, so the next seven games will
determine whether they can get there. They had the Rams
again at home on a Thursday night in mid December,

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and they end the season at the forty nine ers.
They'll be favored in pretty much every other game up
to between those two games, So what's left for them
will determine whether how far they've come on their big
pict request to get back to division superiority. The fact remains,
if Donald doesn't throw four interceptions, they win that game

(44:25):
the Rams. I'm sure you has already said this on
the air of this station this week. The Rams had
only one touchdown drive, one drive where they actually had
to go more than the half the field. Their two
other touchdown drives were three yards and twenty five yards
thanks to Sam Donald turning the ball over deep in
his own end. So if you can extrapolate back to
when the Rams played the Seahawks and lumin Field last year,

(44:48):
thirteen points in regulation by the offense against Seattle's defenses.
She has talked about Mike McDonald in the last two
real games. Not there in the JV game in January
in Englewood. Mike McDonald has had John mcvay's number like
nobody else in the league. Thirteen points in regulation in
November last year in Blumenfield, seven points, having to drive

(45:08):
the field against Seattle the other day without getting handed
the game. Donald's turnovers. We talked about it even before
the Rams game. That's a concern. When you're tied with
twa tongue of Iola for the most turnovers in the
league at that position, that's a problem no matter who
they're playing, including Tennessee this week.

Speaker 8 (45:26):
Here ole concerning was the game by Sam Darnold on Sunday,
and then big picture, do we have the right quarterback
going forward?

Speaker 12 (45:35):
Well, first of all, if I can respond to I
agree with a lot or most of what Greg said. Greg,
I think that the tenor of your sense that hey,
they're just behind the Rams. Yeah, they're behind the Rams
in the standings right now. But the Seahawks are the
of all the contenders. I looked at them all. They're

(45:55):
the only team that has a new quarterback and a
new coordinator on offense. The Seahawks are the fifth youngest
team in the NFL. Yeah, they had a game where
the quarterback lost it. He had four interceptions. All four
of those are double minuses. But when you consider all
the positives that will likely discuss here, I feel like

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they're right there. They're seven and three. They have a
two to three record. That's four hundred against the other
playoff teams. That doesn't sound very good. Well, guess what
of the fourteen teams, there's only two that have a
winning record against them. You know, last year, out of
fourteen playoff teams, eight of the fourteen had a three

(46:36):
point thirty three win percentage or worse against other playoff teams.
So they're fine in regard to what their schedule is.
It's going to come down to the December eighteenth game.
As for Darnold, look the interceptions again, I am not
excusing those interceptions Chuck, you know, but I think there's

(46:57):
a lot of things going around it. Like the first one,
I think it was a poor scheming where they had
the Zabel fan out to help the left tackle and
the right guard was going to be fanning out eventually
on his side. That was Olua Timmy one on one.
As a general action, you don't want to have centers

(47:17):
on an island again with both guards dividing. I would
rather had Charles Cross on verse and had the tight
end ship and then released in the flat because he
was going in the flat anyways, with press coverage, Cooper Cup,
don't go nineteen yards man, you got a hole. You
got to shorten up that route. So now he's holding

(47:39):
the ball. So there's things going on again. It's the quarterback.
It's his fall. The second one, he gets hit in
two point one second, Sam Bradford. Excuse me, Anthony Bradford
is totally oblivious to the stunt and he gets hit
right in the in the lips on a on a pass.
So there's people breaking down around him. As Greg Olsen
said on the third interception, the bender Elijah Rowe, he'd

(48:00):
like to have it bend in. I still give Sam
Donald a double minus. I think he saw yellow light.
I think he should have seen a red light. But
as for the big picture, I mean Sam Donald his
first forty nine games, he won thirty five percent of
his games in his career. Then three exactly three years

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ago November twenty seventh to twenty twenty two, when he's
twenty five years old. That's when everything clicked. He went
from winning thirty five percent of his games in the
last thirty four games he's won seventy four percent of them.
Number of passer rating games over one hundred, he went
from sixteen percent of his games being over one hundred
a triple digit passway to sixty eight percent. What is

(48:44):
sixty eight percent of your times when you get a
triple digit? In Pat Mahomes his entire career, he's sixty
one out of one hundred and twenty two, exactly fifty percent,
and only one of those was his rookie year. The
second year is an MVP. And then as far as
the big games, people are talking about the big game,
I'm gonna quote Don James from November seventeenth of nineteen

(49:07):
ninety nine in a local paper quote, the biggest game
is always the one you lost. You never get credit
for the ones you win for being a big game.
So Sam Donald went fourteen and three last year. He
beat Green Bay twice. They would have been thirteen and
four had Sam Donald not beat him. Well, Donald in
those games had one hundred and twenty three passer rating

(49:27):
one hundred and sixteen. Beat the Houston Texans when they
won their division he had one hundred nineteen passer rating.
How about the game against Seattle when Seattle needed to
have a win.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Against the Vikings of the Packers.

Speaker 12 (49:40):
He comes in here, beats the Seahawks twenty seven to
twenty four, has one hundred and twelve passer rating.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
So all these things like he's had.

Speaker 12 (49:46):
Big games and then to close it off last year
in the playoffs. I'll say against the Lions that last
game he was poor. Gotta be better. But that Ram
playoff game doesn't matter who was the quarterback. Remember the
Super Bowl Pat Mahomes had seventeen pressures running for his
life after three quarters. He had a fifty three passer rating.

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In the they were down thirty four to six. We
had seventeen pressures. Donald had twenty seven in that Ram game.
There's more on my notes here. I just think that
that Sam Sam there's enough evidence that Sam Donald, and
I mean touch on the call is stuff. There's enough
evidence that Sam Donald has a clutch gene, or certainly

(50:30):
that he doesn't have a wilt gene. We just don't
have a lot of data set and we'll see. But
the guy's been balling, and you know I can't wait
for his redemption opportunity in a month against the Rams.

Speaker 13 (50:46):
Greg, Yeah, well, you're right, the wins and losses, his
career is absolutely u turned. Of course, he started with
the Jets and the Panthers, and he's been with the
Vikings and the Seahawks. That'll turn around anybody's career. Bttom
Line is the guy who has the ball in every play,
can't turn the ball over more than anybody else in
the league. And whether it's them dropping in the box coverage,

(51:10):
as Cooper Cup explained to me after the game in
Inglewood on Sunday, and then running a safety out or
vice versa having a too high shell look at the
snap and then running the safety down, he himself. Darnold
said he was a victim of holding onto the ball
too long after the game on Sunday, and a couple
of times he admitted he could just throw the ball
straight into the turf and avoid an interception or a sack.

(51:34):
The third interception in particular, fourth interception in particular, the
jump pass to Arroyo. He was trying to avoid the
sack because he was on the edge of field goal
range in a twenty one to twelve game with six
minutes left, and he said after the game he was
preoccupied with not losing the five or six yards on
that sack that would have pushed him out of field
goal range, which is why he got rid of the
ball at the last second to Royal And then he said,

(51:55):
I should have just stirted the ball. It's the nature
of the position. Hugh knows that more than any of us.
If the quarterback when they lose, he gets the blame.
If he wins that game, he would get all the
credit for rallying at the end despite the four interceptions.
It's you can make a case the seahawks three losses
are because Sam Donald did not take care of the

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ball in the crunch time of the game forty nine
ers red zone, a minute and a half left, Abe
Lucas gets pushed into by Nick Posa, Donald doesn't secure
the ball, fumble lost seventeen thirteen, Buccaneers tied four minutes left,
Seahawks in their own end. He doesn't recognize the safety blitz,
he doesn't get rid of the ball, and toin Winfield
hits him, revolts in an interception off of Alignment's helmet,

(52:39):
gifted the Buccaneers the winning field goal and then the
Rams the other day. That's partly true of any team.
If your quarterback turns over the ball, those are your losses.
But you could trace Sam Donald taking either sacks or
throwing the ball into the ground and the Seahawks could
be nine to one or ten and er.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Right now, that's not a stretch.

Speaker 13 (52:58):
And there are a lot of people around the organization
in the locker room upstairs in the building who think,
if we can just get the quarterback and the offense
to not turn over the ball, that they would be
a division champion.

Speaker 8 (53:11):
Well, it does getting credit for how many wins we
got for how well he played as well. But I'll
throw it to you, Hugh, did we have a turnover
issue with Sam because the statistics might suggest that we
do well.

Speaker 12 (53:24):
Let's first of all talk, Not every fumble is created equal.
A running back has to have the five points of
pressure the chest, the bicep, the forearm, the thumb side
of the hand, and the finger side of the hand.
When you're running a quarterback who's in the pocket, if
he has both hands on the pocket, there is more

(53:47):
of a burden on him than if he's passing. If
he has begun the act of passing and his right
hand is separated. If he barely gets hit on his wrist,
he's going to fumble. And so if he's in the
forty nine er game, if he's looking, he's thrown to
the left flat and his vision is to the left flat,

(54:08):
and the right tackle gets overrun early in the down
and he has already separated his hands. Are we evaluating
a quarterback fumble like a running back fumble? That's nonsensical
to me. And as far as as the turnover, the
Pro Football Focus has what's called turnover worthy plays, so

(54:32):
they try and balance out. Hey, sometimes you deserve an interception.
You threw it right to the the defender caught it,
had two hands on the ball, but he dropped it.
What they say is that should have been an interception.
And then there's other times they say, wait a minute,
that's not the quarterback's fault, like when aj Barner got
overrun against Arizona and he bounced the ball off the

(54:55):
helmet up with through no fault of his own. So
PFF has Sam Darnold with ten turnover worthy plays. You
know who has more? Drake May the Vegas odds for
winning the MVP. Bo Nicks also leading the AFC. Also
an MVP candidate, Pat Mahomes Baker Mayfield and many others,

(55:17):
and then that's offset against big time throw percentage. He's
number two in the NFL and big time throws only
one behind Stafford. But the percent that he has, the
percent of his passes that, in the judgment of PFF,
is a big time throw seven point six percent, he's
number one in the NFL. So I ask you in August,
if I had told you that at this juncture the

(55:40):
Seahawks would be seven to three, that they would be
number three in the NFL in scoring, that their quarterback
would be number two graded Pro Football Focus on passer,
that the quarterback would be number one in yards per dropback,
number one in yards per ten And on the off target,
this is not PFF. This is the NFL off target

(56:01):
percentage six point six two percent, second lowest, even though
he's stretching the field along. If I had asked you
that in August, and with Seattle being seven and three young,
the only team with a new quarterback and a new
offensive coordinator that's in the playoff hunt, what have you
not taken that for sure?

Speaker 9 (56:19):
Look?

Speaker 12 (56:20):
Look, I am not Sam Donald lost the ram game, period,
hard stop. Nothing else is Sam Donald lost it? And
he'll tell you that he did tell you that that's
the nature of the position.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
I don't like it any more than anybody else.

Speaker 12 (56:36):
But but uh, I think there's a great chance to
finish strong.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Look.

Speaker 12 (56:39):
I was on a Cowboy team that everybody knew we
were the best. This is right in that dynasty winning
super Bowls. Everybody knew we were the best team, and
you could just be the dudes all year long. Is
Seattle or really anybody that good? Who is the best
team in September this year? The Buffalo Bills? Then who
is the best team in October? The Colts in the pack?

(57:00):
Who is there inn a team that can really just
say we're going to be the best for two months
and take everybody's shot and be the hunted. I don't
think Seattle's that good. So the fact that they're seven
and three and they can be the hunter and then
all they got to do is be healthy at the
end of the season, win enough games to have a
good seed and be peaking. And I think it's damn

(57:24):
hard to take all those shots. So this could have
been a blessing that they lost to Seahoks. But I'm
not putting in these these big things like like like,
we can't turn this thing around.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
I don't know. I just don't see it that way.

Speaker 13 (57:37):
No, I don't think they're anywhere near not being able
to turn it around. I think that they're making it
harder for themselves if they can't win a division. We
know the history says that the Seahawks, in particular, if
they don't have home playoff games and not going to
Super Bowl and that division title, guys, has been the
number one goal since they hired my note doubt and
they ever won road games at this rate, No, of

(58:00):
course not. But but the road games and the playoffs
come with a different You get to be a seed
and you come with a hot you don't play just
Tennessee Arizona. So I'm telling you the tenor in the
building is the division is there for the taking if
the offense just takes care of themselves, because the defense
will win us games. And then you start granular about

(58:21):
the offense, and then we start talking about Darnold in
the run game and the Anthony Bradford and whatnot. But
their their their opinion is they built this program with
the defense being this good to win this division and
their defense really I talked to letter words of the
locker room after in Englewood, he said, man, I want
to play the Rams again like tomorrow, because they think

(58:42):
they've got the Rams on defense now if they can
just get the offense to take care of the ball
and hold up their end, that they think they can
win the division.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
I know they lost.

Speaker 8 (58:51):
I know their quarterback through four interceptions on Sunday, But
to me, the better team on Sunday lost the football game.
I thought the Seahawks outplayed the Rams for four quarters,
and yeah, you have to go with you lost.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
You lost the game. But I thought they had.

Speaker 8 (59:08):
A pretty good showing other than the four turnovers on Sunday,
so I feel good about where they're at. We're going
to continue our conversation. It's our twelve man roundtable here
on this Thursday. We got Greg Beller Seahawks insider. We
got Hugh Millen, our QB one joining us here. We
got to talk about Gray's Abel's health on the other side,
the interior of the offensive line, and of course size

(59:29):
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Speaker 2 (59:45):
I'd say I feel that. I know.

Speaker 8 (59:48):
I think it was one of the great achievements of
your career, I think, frankly, and we haven't played against
a contestant. I'm going to say in a couple of months,
we haven't played Beat Bucky against an actual caller.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Yeah, I missed it so hard on me. Yeah, I know, Sorry, Bucky.
Ashley and I are both sorry.

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
Yeah, I know you guys, you've been trying to get
it in but we've been so busy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Yeah, now all is right in the world. I know.

Speaker 8 (01:00:11):
It's the thing you look forward to most in life, really,
is you know, your children coming home from Hawaii.

Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
Second, Yeah, when Grace comes running up and goes daddy
like that is pales of comparison to my joy that
I feel when we play this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
I know, man, I'm really sorry, buddy, right, yeah, but
it's back now, it's back now. So consider this like
ten Gracie hugs.

Speaker 8 (01:00:34):
Yeah, all right, we're going to meet our contestant here
in a moment. But let me explain the rules. So
we play a little trivia game on Thursday. It's kind
of set up like Jeopardy. We got three categories, we
got five questions each, but we don't tally up points.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
That's that's so old. Score.

Speaker 8 (01:00:50):
Yeah, we tally up runs, and like Jeopardy, if you
answer question incorrectly, we will take runs off of your score.
So whoever ends up with the most runs at the
end of the game will win. And really the entire
objective is to beat Bucky. Ashley's going to play. She
might finish first, but the idea is for you, the contestant,

(01:01:13):
to beat Bucky, and as long as you beat Bucky's score,
you are going to win our fabulous prize today, which.

Speaker 10 (01:01:19):
Is a pair of tickets to see Heart at Climate
Pledgerina on November twenty third, which is Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome. I don't know how much
longer they're going to play. And if you're a seatllite,
you guys see Heart once.

Speaker 10 (01:01:29):
I have seen Anne Wilson sing the national anthem at
Climate Pledgerina and it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Was phenomenal, So I can't imagine a whole show.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Turns out, she's pretty good. She's a little bit like
Nole's Yeah some time.

Speaker 8 (01:01:42):
Yeah, something working for all right, let's meet our contestant.
It is Immanuel from Renting. Good morning, Immanuel.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
That's going a great How are you not too bad?

Speaker 12 (01:01:56):
We'll join this beautiful leather?

Speaker 8 (01:01:58):
All right, well, thank you we're playing. Thank you for
listening to the show. Have you listened to Beat Bucky
played before?

Speaker 12 (01:02:06):
Yeah, it's been a while.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I've definitely heard of before.

Speaker 8 (01:02:08):
Okay, all right, well, I do want to let you
know that we have not equipped your Homer automobile with
a buzzer. Therefore, if you think you know the answer
to a question, just ring in with your name, and
if you're right, we give you the points and if not,
we subtract them. But we have, but we don't want
you just blurting out the answers. Is the point of

(01:02:28):
that understood?

Speaker 6 (01:02:29):
All right?

Speaker 9 (01:02:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
Sound good?

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 8 (01:02:32):
Well, it is the Thanksgiving edition of Beat Bucky. So
here are your categories. They are turkey taters tarts.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Okay, turkey taters tarts. Those are your three categories.

Speaker 8 (01:02:47):
Yeah, the three t's of Thanksgiving for you right here
on Beat Bucky. All right, Emmanuel, you get us started. Turkey,
taters or tarts? Where do you want to start?

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
Let's go, It's all right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
These are just Thanksgiving zerts.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
I like to call them, yeah, deserts.

Speaker 8 (01:03:05):
All right, here we go for a one run homer
Hollywood's John new Editions Girl and Baseball's Maldonatily Ashley.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Candy candies. They are all candies.

Speaker 8 (01:03:17):
Candies are a great part of Thanksgiving where the turkey's
not quite ready, and of course you're not going to
have full fledged dessert, but you just grab some chocolate
covered nuts over there in the corner, right, sure with
me on that?

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Sure?

Speaker 8 (01:03:28):
Yeah, one run Homer for Ashley, she is on the board. Candies.
I do like candies at Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
All right, Ashley, you have control of the board.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Yeah, let's stick with tarts.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
All right.

Speaker 8 (01:03:39):
These are Thanksgiving desserts for a two run homer. Country
rapper Jason Bradley Deford's stage name Country rapper Jason Bradley
Deford's stage name Bucky Bucky al dean Ah. That is
incorrect minus two for.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Bucky, And I answered that, no, it's not even a dessert.
I know.

Speaker 6 (01:04:03):
Oh, you'll never go over. When before Turkey's ready and
have some aldine.

Speaker 8 (01:04:06):
No, no, I'll have some chocolate nuts.

Speaker 10 (01:04:10):
I can picture him and I can't think of his name,
and it's driving me crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Oh man, you should both have this, All three of
you should have this one. That's jelly roll. Jelly roll,
all right.

Speaker 8 (01:04:21):
Bucky's at minus two, Ashley at one, and Emmanuel's just
biden his time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Ashley still have control of the board.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Yeah, let's stick with tarts, alright.

Speaker 8 (01:04:29):
Tarts it is. These are Thanksgiving zerts. This is a
three run omer and it's a two parter, So listen
to both parts and put them together for your answer.
First part the hitting action the batter takes to execute
a safety squeeze with the band that brought us short
skirt Ashley.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Bunt cake, bunt cake.

Speaker 8 (01:04:51):
Three runs for Ashley and she still has control of
the board.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Yeah, let's stick with tarts, all right.

Speaker 8 (01:04:58):
This for a four run over, Emmanuel. That's also known
as a grand slam. Got this, man, Yeah, I don't
know if you've if you follow the baseball much, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I got it all right, Here we go. Four run Homer,
the first name of Joyce Wear's stage name. The only
pro wrestler to carry a McCall with him into the ring.

(01:05:20):
The first name of Joyce Wear's stage name. The only
professional wrestler to carry a McAll with.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Him into the ring. Clue, ash Bucky should know that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Yeah, I'm like wrestling. I'm lost.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
That is Coco Coco co Co b Ware is the
professional wrestler that carried a McCall with him into the ring.
All right, Ashley, do you want to finish out theory?

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Finish out the tarts?

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
All right, it's an Audio Daily Manuel. Make sure you
got your radio down. We're getting a little bit of
feedbacks on that. Yeah, so just listen to.

Speaker 9 (01:06:00):
Your phone, my headphones.

Speaker 8 (01:06:03):
Oh no, okay, okay, all right, here we go, e manual.
The Audio Daily double is for you and you alone.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:06:11):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:06:11):
And since you don't have any points, the only thing
that we can do is go by the number of
runs that are available, and we have to double it.
So this is worth ten runs.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Yeah, that works.

Speaker 8 (01:06:23):
It's a double daily doubles. Yeah, it's the only thing
we can do. Yeah, read your rule book. Yeah, I
don't think that's the rule. This one's really difficult though,
so you can't risk any loss here. And this is
going to be a really difficult one for you to get, unfortunately,
but then again, it is worth the ten runs.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
So name this deeper track warrant song.

Speaker 11 (01:06:45):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 9 (01:06:48):
Got no answer to that.

Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
Wow, my goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
We tried to give you ten runs, to give.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
You ten runs away?

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Yeah wow.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Uh must have been an easy one.

Speaker 11 (01:07:04):
Then I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Cherry pie.

Speaker 6 (01:07:08):
Cold drink a water, such a sweet surprise taste so good,
make a old man cry.

Speaker 9 (01:07:14):
Sweet cherry pie.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Oh oh yeah, I'm definitely gonna save that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
You have you a run for that. You're up to
minus one.

Speaker 6 (01:07:25):
You a run.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
It's not just telling the answer, but entertaining us.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Thank you, Thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
All right, nice work, Bucky, Emmanuel, not so much. All right.

Speaker 8 (01:07:33):
Taters and tarts are the remaining categories, actually or tatters
in Turkey, Turkey, Ashley, you have control of the board.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Let's go with Turkey, all right, Turkey it is.

Speaker 8 (01:07:44):
These are parts of the bird that you might eat,
parts of the bird that you might eat for one run, Homer,
Simultaneous leg and arm movements will keep you on your
chest for this swimming stroke.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Bucky, Bucky, breast breast is correct. Yeah, that's a part
of the turkey.

Speaker 10 (01:08:02):
For some reason, I was picturing like that, you like
a turkey wing, so I was like, you'd have an elbow,
and then I was like in one legout.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Well, all right, Bucky, you're out of the hole. You're
up to a zero thanks to your singing.

Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
Stick with the bird.

Speaker 8 (01:08:19):
All right, we're gonna stick with the bird. And this
is for a two run Homer. It's what you earn
when you win a hole in match play.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
But oh, he said his name, he hasn't yet.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Okay, it's what you earn when you win a hole
in match play.

Speaker 11 (01:08:36):
I'm confused at how that would be a part of
the bird.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
So I don't think that's the right word.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
M correct answer is skin. Oh skin, Yeah, it's a
skin that you win. Yeah, all right, nothing. Everybody loves turky.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Thing you got?

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Yeah? Yeah, okay, sure, all.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Right, Ashley with three, Bucky with none and a manual.
He is biting his time.

Speaker 8 (01:09:03):
All right, here we go, Bucky, you have control. Stick
with the turkey, all right, three run Omer. This WNBA
franchise featured the Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
In twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Oh can you say that again?

Speaker 8 (01:09:15):
This WNBA franchise featured the Rookie of the Year in
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 11 (01:09:24):
Everything I think, I'm like, that's not a turkey though,
a turkey Muel.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Dan Emmanuel, Yeah, Page Backers, I think Dallas. Oh what
do you know their name?

Speaker 9 (01:09:38):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (01:09:38):
Now I get it, the Dallars.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
I think parts of turkeys, very delicious, not legs.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
You're there, You're there, You're there, You're in first place,
just like that?

Speaker 8 (01:09:56):
Good or yeah, nice work. The Dallas Wing are the
franchise that Page Becker's plays for. All right, emmanually, you
got three runs, you're tied with Ashley for the lead,
and you have control of the board.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Where do you want to go? Do you want to
keep with turkey?

Speaker 12 (01:10:12):
Yeah, let's stay with Turkey, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Parts of the bird for run.

Speaker 8 (01:10:14):
Homer the nickname of the ESPN hoops analyst who spent
twelve years mostly in DC as an NBA sharpshooter. The
nickname of the ESPN hoops analyst who spent twelve years
mostly in DC as an NBA sharpshooter.

Speaker 11 (01:10:32):
I have the worst I don't watch ESPN basketball at all.
Oh gosh, we are failing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Nope, Nope, nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
So maybe Emmanuel is a basketball official.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
No idea.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
The correct answer is Legs.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
I was gonna that's just gonna be my guest, and
I was like, it can't be Legs.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Jim Legler his nickname is leg That makes sense, all right?
Do you want to close out the category of manual?

Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
Yeah, let's let's finish, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Five run Homer. He wants to be done with it,
even though this is where you've made your mark. Five
run Homer.

Speaker 8 (01:11:08):
Western Illinois universities are leather and Houston XFL's teams were rough.

Speaker 9 (01:11:15):
But what.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Next?

Speaker 6 (01:11:23):
Five run?

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
I only liked watching your.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Brain and I could hear it.

Speaker 6 (01:11:28):
It hurts, It was actually painful. Was a rough necks
were rough? I was thinking rough riders, That's.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
What I was thinking. I was like, that's not augh,
not a writer on a turkey.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Otherwise I've been missing out.

Speaker 8 (01:11:40):
Next Western Illinois leather necks and the Houston roughnecks.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
My mom would eat the neck.

Speaker 6 (01:11:47):
That's pretty gross.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
I think it is too all right. She was a
sick woman.

Speaker 8 (01:11:52):
Five for three for Ashley, three for a manual, and
we have one more category two go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
It is these are ways to prep potatoes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
I love potatoes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Here we go.

Speaker 8 (01:12:05):
One run Homer, legendary seventy sitcom featuring Doctor's Hawkeye Pierson,
BJ honeycol Mash the old mash tatter. You've now doubled
up your opponents with six runs. Two run Bueller's Cameron,
the Guardian's David, the NBA's Channing and Comedy's Steven Bueller's

(01:12:28):
Cameron the Guardian's Data. They're old fries.

Speaker 9 (01:12:35):
See.

Speaker 8 (01:12:35):
Maybe that's how you can make a potatoes all right.
Two run Homer for Ashley, gives her five runs. She's
right on Bucky's trail. Uh, Emmanuel, you're right there, you're
right there. All right, Here we go. A three run
Homer is the Bucky ball bus. All right, man, you

(01:12:57):
gotta be careful with this one because you can risk
losing on this one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Okay, Uh says because if you.

Speaker 8 (01:13:03):
Have to risk any amount of the three runs that
you have, but if you get it wrong, Bucky gets
the runs.

Speaker 10 (01:13:11):
It must meet Thanksgiving, it must be it must have
eaten too much again, doesn't happen.

Speaker 6 (01:13:20):
By the way, they stopped laughing at that one encourager.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
That was perfect comedic timing right there. All right, how
much do you want to risk there. Emmanuel, Yeah, how
much do I have?

Speaker 9 (01:13:38):
Three?

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
You're gonna go?

Speaker 8 (01:13:41):
Oh boy, you're making me nervous.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Here we go, Here we go.

Speaker 8 (01:13:47):
You and you alone get to answer this, but it
is a question about the show.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
I hope you listen.

Speaker 8 (01:13:53):
Bucky's first major league baseball tater was hit off of
what recently a pointed Hall of Fame pitcher. Bucky's first
major league baseball tater was hit off of what recently
named Hall of Fame pitcher.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
I know it, Yeah, me too, just went in.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
You're gonna sing it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:24):
Hall of Fame pitcher.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
You said, yeah, uh, like the recent class.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
It might be down three.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Oh, Manuel's down to zero, Bucky's up to nine. Sing
it if you I don't want to sing it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:44):
I don't know if there is any way to sing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Sing Terry Pie again. See c.

Speaker 6 (01:14:49):
Sabathia bring that week stuff in audio sic another point?

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Please you get three.

Speaker 8 (01:15:00):
You're up to ten, all right, Ten for Buckie, five
for Ashley, Emmanuel with nothing, which pretty much has ended
this game. But we will finish out the category taters
for a or two.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
There's two left.

Speaker 8 (01:15:12):
Four run Omer, the last name of the Skipper who
preceded Lloyd McClendon as Mariners manager.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
Bucky Bucky Wedge correct.

Speaker 8 (01:15:21):
Now, I just feeling his own tat we fourteen runs,
four bucket, five run Omer, the last name of the
only quarterback to lead the Seahawks to four straight division titles.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Ashley Ashley Castlebeck gone five run Omer for potatoes. Yeah,
they take a big potato slicelice, slice slicel slice it bacon.

Speaker 8 (01:15:44):
It's Swedish. I bet you Mike Homeran's had a few
of them. Emmanuel, you did not beat Bucky. But because
you listen to the show, you were a great sport
and you made it to the end. We're still going
to give you the tickets to the Heart concerts. So
congratulates on that. Thank you for listening, and have a
very happy Thanksgiving sir.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Here you take care. Guys, all right, we're gonna put
you on hold.

Speaker 8 (01:16:07):
Do not hang up, Do not hang up. We need
some information from you. So Emmanuel cannot go around town
and rent and tell people that he beat Bucky.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
That would be a crime. You can be arrested for
that jail time, Emmanuel, but you do get to go
see Heart in concert. So there you go. Thank you
very much, Emmanuel, and a successful return of beat Bucky. Yes, well,
very successful when I.

Speaker 8 (01:16:29):
Win fourteen runs, well done, well done, saying you deserve.

Speaker 6 (01:16:35):
That cherry Pie.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
I feel either, why Emmanuel, you're grounded?

Speaker 10 (01:16:44):
Take a lap so sad when we think like something
so easy and then someone's like, I'm not as old
as you ass hats all right?

Speaker 8 (01:16:53):
Coming up next, Mike Sando will be joining us. I
guarantee he's heard the sound cherry Pie. Sports Radio ninety
three point three kJ r f M.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
It's time for.

Speaker 5 (01:17:02):
Our Thursday visit with Mike Sando of the Athletic and
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Speaker 6 (01:17:11):
Here's Chuck and Buff Hi.

Speaker 8 (01:17:15):
Yes, every Thursday a chance to chat with the Mike
Sando or NFL insider from the Athletic, and he is
with us. A lot to discuss from the National Football League.
But the most important thing to ask him here this
morning is have you heard of the song cherry Pie
by Warrant?

Speaker 6 (01:17:29):
No, I'll stop that, you're kidding, right, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Cherry Pie? Oh?

Speaker 14 (01:17:37):
Yes, okay, yes, Oh you're going way back? Yeah, back
oh yeah, yeah, yes, so you just caught me off guard.
I wasn't in I was trying to Is this a
new thing?

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Of course?

Speaker 6 (01:17:46):
I remember that song?

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Okay, good.

Speaker 6 (01:17:47):
Do you never wear acid washed jeans either? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
A bullet?

Speaker 6 (01:17:52):
Yeah? You tight roll your pants?

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Absolutely?

Speaker 14 (01:17:56):
I did all those things we used to boy in
that era, you know, early eighties probably there used to
be a place called Miller's Outposts, remember that. Yeah, and
they would sell like a bunch of Levi's type stuff,
and so yeah, it was. It was a really weird
thing to like get these jeens and then actually bleach them,
you put them in the you know, basically ruin them.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
The only thing, the only thing that you confessed with
sheer embarrassment was the mullet. That's you know through all
of that.

Speaker 14 (01:18:25):
Well I did have I did have a little bit
of it wasn't a I definitely hadn't go longer in
the back. I remember those hats that had the flaps
in the back, remember those, yeah, warmer flaps they had
uh how do you describe it? They had two flaps.
One time we go down that cover where the mullet

(01:18:48):
would be. Remember those Oh I do not Yeah, you
do remember those what are they called? This is like
me saying I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
Hat mullet helmets. I don't know. Do you remember those
hats mullet ye?

Speaker 6 (01:18:58):
I don't know all that. I know if you didn't
have your mo I'm looking at that, you didn't have
your mullet permed like I did. You didn't really have
a mullet. I'm with it.

Speaker 14 (01:19:07):
Someone said they called them shower painters hats or trapper hats.
Remember those they had? Anyway, that's all you things were
different and you were wearing them. I guarantee you're wearing
geographical regions.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
All right, let's talk some football.

Speaker 8 (01:19:21):
I mean, it's it's pretty easy to notice that the
Tennessee Titans are a bad football team, maybe the worst
in the National Football League. I just did a round
table where everybody on the round table thinks this is
just a runaway and hide. Is there any way that
Tennessee can threaten the Seahawks at all this Sunday?

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
I don't think so.

Speaker 14 (01:19:42):
I think it'll be a very difficult game for you know,
they have a rookie quarterback who's not in a great
position to win.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (01:19:48):
Obviously they the coach that brought him into the league,
was forced to lose his play calling duties after three games.
They fired him after six. I don't think they have
a you know, they have an interim coach who's not
necessarily a super strong personality or leaders. So I think
they are in a difficult situation and it would be

(01:20:10):
hard for me to imagine a path for their offense
to function well in the game.

Speaker 6 (01:20:16):
Yeah, their offense against the Seahawks defense, and I mean,
especially coming off of that loss. Wouldn't you expect that
the Seahawks Sam Donald in particular, is going to be
kind of out for blood prove something, right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Yeah, you would think so.

Speaker 14 (01:20:28):
Now, I do think that their defense, you know, so
you got uh, you know, their defensive coordinator is a
Mike McDonald guy too. They run the same type of defense.
They were both Baltimore guys, So you know, they're they're
gonna have they They may they may be schemed pretty
well defensively, and you know, Seattle could have a little

(01:20:52):
different mix on the offensive line. Do They haven't said
if grayz Abel's playing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Yet, right, They have not said that. Yeah, So it seems.

Speaker 14 (01:20:59):
Like a game that Grad's able probably wouldn't play, doesn't
it seem likely to you.

Speaker 8 (01:21:03):
It sounds like he's not. According to Greg Bell, it
doesn't sound like he's going to.

Speaker 14 (01:21:08):
And this team has been cautious. Remember they had a
game where Witherspoon and Love both practiced the DBS both
practiced on like Friday and were full go and they
didn't play them. So to me, they've been cautious, like
they're building this thing for the end of the year too.
So I would think they would have, you know, withhold

(01:21:29):
guys who are maybe banged up, you know, offensively, you
Offentially there's a chance to be out of rhythm, is
what I'm saying. They could be well schemed. They could
give you some problems up front, you know. And so
I don't think Seattle's are well machine offensively right now, right,
they just can't. If you take away one thing, it's

(01:21:49):
guaranteed the other thing's going to be there.

Speaker 8 (01:21:52):
Mike Sander was whether it's still looking up mullet protectors
here in the background as we talked to Mike every
single Thursday on the radio program. In all of your days,
have you ever seen anything as absurd as this Shador
Sanders story. The extreme of those that are rooting for him,
to fail, and then the extreme on the other side

(01:22:13):
of people that think he has been just so wronged
by the process. I find both of them absurd, and
it feels like there are very few of us in
the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Yeah, I think it's.

Speaker 14 (01:22:26):
I was thinking about this the other day of how
invested people are in it and why they are, and
I'm not super I'm not invested in it either way.
I mean, I hope he you know, I guess I know,
hope he develops like any other young quarterback. I feel
like we just need him to play over a little

(01:22:48):
bit longer period of time so there's something actually to
analyze and evaluate that's meaningful. And I think this one
has been such a weird situation. Cleveland's such a strange team,
you know, they just they do things as if there's
always some puppeteer in the background, the owner or somebody
that's doing things that maybe the coach and even the

(01:23:11):
GMS sometimes wouldn't do, so it feels disjointed. I think
it's a very strange situation for sure Sanders to go into.
And then I think he's a very unique player in
terms of his background with being Dean Sanders kid. So
there's just a lot of different things kind of going
on here, and in the end, he's going to be
evaluated for how he plays. Right now, there's a whole

(01:23:32):
bunch of stuff that people that were just guessing, like
how he's being handled, what the true intentions of the
team are, what's he doing behind the scenes, what kind
of teammate is he, what kind of a guy is
All that stuff is just kind of bs to me.
It's secondary to let's get four or five games of
him playing. And by the way, if he's not good,

(01:23:53):
name the last guy who was a good quarterback in Cleveland, right,
I mean, they haven't gotten production out of anybody. People
think Joe's a success story there. They went on defense
with Joe Flacco. He didn't have good numbers, So he's
probably gonna go into the game not do that well
and that might not even be a reflection of him
because of what Cleveland is. So it's a messy type

(01:24:13):
of situation. He's been a lightning rud player. Some of
that's how he handles himself. Some of that says more
about the people that are evaluating him.

Speaker 6 (01:24:22):
Do you think after that? I mean that one loss
is one loss is not that big of a deal
that you could go on a seven game streak here
in this thing if you're the Seahawks. But do you
still consider the Seahawks a top five team? Maybe you
didn't before. Yeah, I do top five.

Speaker 14 (01:24:36):
I think they're top five, Oh I do. I think
they're top five team in the league for sure. I
think they are good throughout their roster. I think that
they have a toughness to them. They're developing a brand
of football, and I think they've got the brand of
football now in defense. They hit, and I've been encouraged
that it seems like they developed players. You know, a

(01:24:58):
month ago, you could have easily made a case for
some of these guys. Tya Cotta would be one of them,
like what are they doing? He's not an NFL player
right and now he's making plays. So I think they
have an identity on the opposive side of the defensive
of the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
And they're developing it on offense.

Speaker 14 (01:25:17):
And I think we just really need to see the
run game come along for to round out and not
put it, you know, all in the passing game.

Speaker 8 (01:25:23):
Where do you rank Kansas City right now? Top five,
top ten, top fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Who you asking about Kansas City.

Speaker 14 (01:25:32):
Well, I think Kansas City is probably more of a
top ten team, and you know, their record says are
not quite that. But I do think that they are
still a pretty good team. But something is missing.

Speaker 8 (01:25:47):
Yeah, no doubt, And all right, we'll close with this
Thursday night football tonight, Buffalo and Houston. What's the most
intriguing storyline in this one?

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
I think it's really who are the Bills?

Speaker 9 (01:25:59):
To me?

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
I was thinking of this yesterday. The Texans just don't
intrigue me. Do they intrigue you?

Speaker 14 (01:26:04):
Is there anything about the Texans that makes you want
to watch the Texans?

Speaker 6 (01:26:07):
Not really?

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
Not really, Like, is there anything that's compelling about them?
I think I have a very good defense team.

Speaker 14 (01:26:14):
Yeah, I just feel like we're still sort of stuck
offensively in what is Stroud and what are they going
to be? So I'm sort of deferring judgment for them.
I think the Bills are very much a week to
week team, like how good are they really? And they're
going to play this tough defense. So I think that
component of it to me, you know, we're in an
evalue where we're sort of evaluating these teams like Buffalo

(01:26:36):
and Kansas City every week, where we used to not
really worry about it me if they had a one
off game. Hey, these are the teams that are going
to be there in the end. I think we're kind
of evaluating, aren't we. And I feel like, like you said,
is Kansas City at top ten or fifteen? We never
would have said that last year even right right, I
haven't said that for years. So yeah, I'm intrigued by
the buffaloes and the Kansas Cities of the world. So
I want to see what the bills are every week.

Speaker 8 (01:26:58):
All right, Well, go grab your mullet at your walk man,
play some cherry piewak, go walk the dog.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
I'll definitely I'm gonna go walk the dog.

Speaker 14 (01:27:05):
I'll do that right now.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
Thank you?

Speaker 6 (01:27:07):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
Hi?

Speaker 8 (01:27:09):
Yeah, here uh NFL insider Mike Sando from The Athlete.
If you want to follow him, do so at Sando NFL.
He joins us every Thursday thanks to our friends at
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