November 24, 2025 • 36 mins
Headlines and 12th Man News with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune) We caught up with Gregg bright and early this morning before he flew home from Nashville and got his thoughts on the Seahawks win yesterday. There are clearly some things the Seahawks need to clean up, but how much of a role did injuries play in yesterday’s game? How impressive is Grey Zabel? Jaxon Smith-Njigba broke the single-season receiving yards record and Gregg had some high praise for the young star. :30- The Kraken fell just barely short last night losing 1-0 in a shootout and ending the roadtrip at 2-2. :35- We had a pretty good week last night, so now the pressure is on Ashley to make the right pick this morning! :45- It’s Monday morning, so we have to hear from the Seahawks head coach!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
They're really a great asset that they've brought in.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Donald with time going up top for Jackson.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Smith and chick Buck drops.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It in the bucket and he wonked back pedal for
a touchdown. Comes pressure from Witherspoon in Troubler's war down
it goes they brought pressure that time Witherspoon from the
secondary and Byron Murphy ends up with the sack.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
On second and four, play action Darnald to the end.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Zon Spif then Chekeba with his second touchdown of the
day thirteen yards, and Seattle storms down the field to
grab six out of the locker room for Seattle. Defensively,
pressure comes war to trouble.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Williams has him in the sack.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Sixth second of the year for the Vet Leonard Williams
and he brings up fourth down. Donald back to Charbonnay
bouncing to the end. Charboney talks the goal line touchdown
Seattle five yards, scamper per Zac Charbonay, we.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Got one game, ball man, and this guy's uh right now,
this guy's the best.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Receiver in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Talk about it set the Seahawks single season.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Record for most yards and what.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
Week is it?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, thank you the Fox for those headlines highlights. I
mean it's not those aren't headlines. What I'm gonna do
now is headline. But I do want to welcome you
guys all in. This is Chuck and Buck in the
Morning Show with Ashley Ryan and No Illinois boy, Illinois
boy illinoying boy? Oh did I say that out loud?
Speaker 7 (02:14):
Ck Burr?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I did this? Gotcha on that one? Here he's asleep.
I like shade him when he's not here. We are
back and Chuck has taken a few days off and
enjoy the week off for Thanksgiving. We got these first
three days with you, and we are going to talk
to Greg Bell here in a second, but first you
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want to go over a couple of the highlights that
happened over the weekend. The Seahawks obviously did win at
Tennessee thirty to twenty four. They moved the ball well,
didn't necessarily finish in the red zone the way that
they need to, and a couple other things. Some misstackles
a punt return for a touchdown. The next thing you know,
you're a on site kick away from things getting a
little hairy. But they held on and ended up holding
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serve and still find themselves in second place, right behind
the Rams. They are at eight and three. The Rams
are at nine and two. Krack and win and lose
on Saturday and Sunday in a back to back, they
won three to two in overtime. I'm on tour ended
up getting an overtime goal in that one to win.
On Saturday yesterday they have a zero zero game that
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goes through overtime and then into shootout, and sure enough,
it's about as close as you can come to winning
and not winning. They made their first goal in the shootout,
then it got stuffed on the next two. The cords
stuff the first two, gives up the third one if
he if he finishes there and blocks that third one,
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we end up winning that thing. Instead. They score on
the fourth one and we do not. Oh excuse me,
I didn't. I don't know if that went over the
air and whatever, off button talk whatever. Anyways, the Huskies
end up smoking UCLA. We just did talk about that.
That was the kickoff to hates Giving for Ashley. It
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will culminate with hates Giving a week from Saturday when
the Ducks come into town, and she'll celebrate Thanksgiving in
the middle of it. But that might be the last
trip to the Rose Bowl. We shall see how that
whole thing works out, but they end up if that
is a final time they play, their sands are outside
of a Rose Bowl appearance. A forty eight to fourteen
win over UCLA will be nice, big night for Demon Williams.
(04:26):
Two touchdown throws and two more on the ground or
was it one touchdown throw too?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I think it was two. Anyway, you dubbed soccer team
advances as well, both of them do. The men beat
SMU one zero to advance to the Sweet sixteen, and
the women's team beat top seeded Virginia five to four
in penalties and they're headed to the Elite eight in
the NCAA Tournament. So kudos to them. Go score goals,
men and women. Before the show started today, we ended
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up catching up with Greg Bell pretty much as he
was boarding his flight back from Tennessee, and we found
out what he was thinking about the Seahawks win this weekend.
Speaker 8 (05:05):
With the Bell tolls, it must be seven o'clock and
time for twelfth Man News with Greg Bell. Brought to
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Speaker 1 (05:28):
Welcome in. We got g Bell here. He's getting ready
to fly back from Nashville. I think I'm sure he's
got his cowboy boots on. He might have taken the
spurs off. Good morning, Greg, How you doing brother, I'm
good man.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Yeah, the FAA doesn't like spurs.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, that makes sense. Still got your chaps on, though,
I would imagine for the for the.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Ride, chaps pat playing the part.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Yeah, as I mentioned, best NFL city, there's some good
ones with the Nationals.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
National's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, Well, off the air, we'll have to discuss. I've
had some pretty good times in Nashville over the years,
But I don't think averyone wants to hear about that
right now. They want to hear what your thoughts are
on this game. Obviously, the Seahawks go to you know,
travel cross country and pull off a w against a
one to ten Tennessee team and yet far closer than
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a lot of people thought. Myself, I know you were
not thinking it was going to be quite as close.
What was the overarching reason as to why the game
came down to a six point game at thirty to
twenty four.
Speaker 9 (06:30):
Well, they got slopping the second half, Bucky, it was
a thirty.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
To ten game.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
It was twenty three to three. They scored twenty three
on answered points. They won the game by early in
the third quarter, late in the second and then it
just got sloppy and the offense stalled. The defense gave
up a couple of touchdowns. It was a cosmetic touchdown
with forty seconds left in the game when it was
thirty to seventeen. So the final score was not at
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all indicative of how most of the game went, the
part of the winning part of the game decisively to Seattle.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
They were alarming things though, in that.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
The defense again the defense again controlled most of the game.
Speaker 9 (07:15):
Sam Donald got away with three passes it should have
been intercepted, including on the first drive of the game
that could have been a ten to pick six cornerback
out in the flat with Kenneth Walker that should have
been intercepted, but Walker broke the pass up and they
ended up getting a field goal on the next play.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
There was no one between the cornerback and the other
goal line. If Walker didn't peel back and break that
pass up, Donald should have never thrown it. Two other
passes that should have been intercepted.
Speaker 9 (07:44):
Better team, that result may have been different, and Donald
certainly would have added to his NFL leading turnover total
against a better team.
Speaker 10 (07:53):
That'sway Greg, I have to ask you, So, this is
the second game that I've really noticed that. And I
hate picking on the defense because they have been really
incredible to watch, but we're missing I'm seeing a lot
of missed tackles and there was quite a few yesterday
where it's like, yes, you're almost getting to cam Ward
and then all of a sudden, you know he's dumping
it off to someone and that person's turning that into
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a fifteen yard game where it should have probably been
a tackle for a loss.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Are they are?
Speaker 10 (08:20):
Is the defense? Like, are there just some things they
need to clean up? Is that something that I should
be concerned about?
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (08:27):
And yes, Okay, it's been a season long problem and
we've talked about it a couple times on your show.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
But better teams are going to exploit that.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Cam Ward on third and fourth down yesterday exploited that
his receivers after the catch.
Speaker 9 (08:42):
Exploited that because they had a big lead, they didn't
lose the game.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Because of it.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
But also their defense played minus four starters coming into
the game, four injured starters. Ernest Jones, their best tackler
and their centerpiece of defense, didn't play.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
He was inactive and injured.
Speaker 9 (08:58):
And then they lost a fifth, Tyle Cotter, who is
a phill instarter, got injured during the game. So half
their defense was missing. I mean, every team in the
NFL is injured.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
There's no excuse that they have to play, but there
are mitigating factors to explain it. But even having said that,
when they were almost full strength, which they haven't been,
as we mentioned fully on defense, and then the second
edition is the fifth play of the season, but when
they're almost close to full strength, they still had tackling issues.
It's now going on December. This is almost who they are.
(09:30):
It's tough to fix that problem.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
This late in the season.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
But they get Julian Love back, and they hope this
week against Minnesota they'll get Ernest Jones back. They're gonna
get better than they were yesterday. I keep saying this,
Are they good enough to beat the Rams. Are they
good enough to beat the forty nine ers? And if
they aren't, they're gonna be on the road in the
playoffs in January. And they're back where they were for
the last month or last decade. But I hear you, it's.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Been a season long shoe on defense.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
For all the great things they've done defensively, tacklings are
made an issue.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
It has. And yet, I mean maybe that's the sole
concern going into it, because you know, you look at
numbers and it just kind of felt that way. I mean,
not all wins are the same, not all six point
wins are the same. You're right, you end up jumping
out to a big lead and you don't necessarily have
to play perfect or or do everything right in order
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to pull out the w. And yet that's a team
I think my confidence and yours, you know, you were
very confident going into this too, that they would be
able to win by a lot bigger margin than six.
For sure, to me, it was I watched this team
play the Titans, that is, and I didn't think this
is a team that was capable of manufacturing long drives,
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and so what was it that was enabling them to
continue to move the chains. I mean they end up
almost doubling them up in time of possession over the
course of the whole game.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Yeah, fifteen play drive to start and they turn them
away in side the five yard line. And that's why
I became a field goal instead of a touchdown right
off the top. But I am well, yeah, that short
short third downs is the problem. And if you in
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the NFL, if your short third downs, the offense can
do anything they want to in their playbook. That's what
happened yesterday. Tennessee short enough third downs, they often went
forward on fourth down. Of course, they were trailing the
game and chasing the game, so they had to. But
Seattle didn't do well enough in the early downs to
make third down long so their pastorists could get after
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cam Ward, and Ward was elusive in the past rush.
When they did pass rusts after they lost containment, they
allowed Ward to extend plays.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
All of that so I'm repeating myself.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
But there were a lot of concerning things about yesterday
that a better team, that result might not have been
the same.
Speaker 10 (11:58):
Okay, something that I don't think think any of us
were concerned about. Well, we might have been going into
the game would Grayzabel play?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Well, he did. He's amazing.
Speaker 10 (12:06):
Mike McDonald called him unbelievable for being able to play.
Seven days later, you wrote an article you said, he's
quickly becoming.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
A folk hero. How impressive is greys Abel?
Speaker 5 (12:16):
He's all that in a bag of chips.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Actually, he is beyond beyond what they thought they were
going to get with him.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
They knew he'd start from day one.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
They didn't know he was going to not give up
any sacks all season long. They didn't know he'd play
off of a serious looking knee injury seven days later
against one of the best interior defensive linemen in the
league and Jeffrey Simmons. When I talked to him after game,
he was humbled by Simmons.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
He said that I joked with him at the start
of the interview.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
I said, so now you're indestructivile too, meaning he played
off the knee injury and he was thinking about Simmons
still and he said, no, no, no, far from it. Simmons
ninety eight is a great player, and he gave it
to me and I was watching him some of the binoculars.
He still blocks two guys on one play, Simmons got
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him a few times, especially quickness off the snap, and
he had a false start and a holding penalty.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
But really good and he is.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
He's solidifying that offensive line and the left side with
Charles Crofts signed at least through next year, and they're
going to try to work on extension compared to I mean,
think of Lake and Tomlinson and the guys they've left guard.
He's a quantum leap and he's only a rookie. He's
gonna only get better.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah. Well, I mean, if we're going to talk about
people that are really good, probably shouldn't go too much
further without talking about Jackson Smith and Jigba. I mean,
breaking the Seahawks singles season record. The guy just continues
to get it done, even though you know he's got
to be the focal point of every defense he's going against.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
They cover and they bracket him, they shade safeties over
to him, and he still gets opened. He it was
the touchdown the sixty three yard yesterday was an improv route.
It wasn't called that way when they saw they had
a safety manned up on him when he went in motion.
So that's when Smith and Jibobs changed his route and
then that play was made because the offensive line gave
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Darnold time. Often he doesn't get that much time to
have out Smith and Jigg but a run a forty
yard route from left to right, and that's what he did,
and he was able to cross the.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Field and become open.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
And when you have that much time, you're often going
to get Smith and jigbit open.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
But that play, in particular, sixty three yard touchdown. Guys,
he looked to me like Jerry Rice.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Oh wow, that's high praise. I would say we ended
up getting cut off there a little bit. I think
that they might have just yanked the phone out of
his hand and told him buckle your damn seat belt,
bell and take your spurs off. I'm not sure exactly
what went on there, but it is what it is.
We ended up getting quite a bit out of him,
and it actually leads us right into something that I
(15:01):
wanted to talk with you about, was the Jackson, Smith
and Jig. But I mean he did he does look
like Jerry Rice. I mean at this point, I mean,
that's a huge praise. And I bet if Hugh Millon's
listening right, he's like you watch your mouth.
Speaker 10 (15:13):
Well, and to be fair, Greg said, the way he
was able to move his body and the way the speed, Yeah,
the off speed and things.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, that's the part that is the most impressive. I mean,
I expect every NFL wide receiver to catch the ball
when it's thrown right to his hands, right. I mean,
there's more difficult catches and easy ones, and he obviously
does that. His route running. Everybody knew coming out of
the draft that he was really good at that. I mean,
Hugh had broke down how this guy's played with some
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elite NFL wide receivers and yet he's known as the
top of the heap. He's the one that is known
as kind of having the it factor when it comes
to being a receiver. We saw him last year. I mean,
he had a great year last year, and yet he
was still we were always talking about why isn't DK
used more, Why isn't this and that DK's gone, and
now he's the focal point. I don't think anybody was
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envisioning him doing what he's doing now. He brought he
breaks the Seahawks single season receiving record as far as
yards go with six games to go. Still, I mean,
DK had the record. He ended up beating him this weekend.
Eleven games. He's had three games that he didn't go
over one hundred yards. Yesterday it was his first game
with multiple touchdowns, and yet that second possession of the
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Seahawks was the first. Was that that long touchdown and
it si the sixty three yarder that basically they got
that and they never looked back at that point. It was.
There's just stuff that he does and I can't wait
to ask you about it because he's going to be
able to dissect it far better than I can. But
it's the it's obvious to me the idea of being
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able to recognize where the ball is and where it's
going to be when it gets there, and that's something
that you can't measure. That you can't. I don't care
how many times you do the you can't measure it.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Good scouts, NFL scouts, I'm sure can see that a
guy does it right where it's oh, that might be overthrown.
And they turn on the jets right and you see
some guys that they slow down for some reason and
all of a sudden they miss it by two inches.
It goes off their fingertips. I think Jackson Smith and
Jigba has maybe the best that I can remember as
far as the ability to win the balls in the air.
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He just recognizes what to do, and that one was
a prime example of I'm sure it's something that wide
receiver coaches try to teach guys. Where he's going, he's
running full speed, he recognizes where that ball is going
to come down, so he slows down just a little bit, forces,
you know, the dB to be Oh is it going
to be underthrown right? I don't want to do pi.
I don't want to run into him. I can't run
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through him. And then all of a sudden, the last second,
he speeds back up and just puts his hand on
him just a little bit, not a push off, doesn't
extend his arm just enough, like yep, that's as far
as you get to go, because I know the ball
is going to go right over your outstretched arm, and
then you know, breaks that one tackle and takes it
to the house. But it just as I mean, watching
this guy week after week, when you know that the
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opponent is saying, we can't let this guy go off
on us again, and yet you know, Tennessee not a
great team, but you know they I'm sure that their
thought was, we got to keep this guy from beating us.
And he still gets catches eight balls for one hundred
and sixty seven yards and two touchdowns. Pretty pretty unbelievable
season so far for this guy.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, he's really fun to watch. He's incredible.
Speaker 10 (18:26):
Just on that sixty three yard touchdown to see like
the way you're talking about, yeah, that he slowed down
and then kind of took that extra step to pick
up speed again and the defender just stumbles because he
can't figure out what's happening and keep up. I mean,
he makes it look really easy, and it's I just
find it so funny because I don't hear him being
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talked about like we hear the great wide receivers get
talked about, And here he is just dominating the NFL
this year, and yeah, people cannot can't stop him. And
you know that was the thought last year after when
DK or in the off season when DK left, was well,
now you know, now everyone's attention is going to be
focused on JSN, So how is he going to do now?
The only reason he was really good last year was
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because everyone was focusing their attention on DK but clearly
that was not the case.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, Yeah, unbelievable. I'm excited to hear more from from
Hugh and we'll have him from eight to ten and
and coach will be on for mondaymoron Quarterback at from
nine to ten and so I can't wait to hear
their takes on this kid and how amazing his season
has been so far. Well, we'll dive into more of
that as this show goes on. On the other side
of the break, we were going to discuss the Crack
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and they ended up winning one and losing one back
to back. Kind of a great win and then a
little bit of a heartbreaker yesterday, but we'll talk about
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enter to win that TV cracking ended up having guess
a good road trip, I suppose. I mean, they're getting
points even when they're not winning. They they won on Saturday,
Montor ended up went into overtime. Montor ended up getting
an overtime goal with I think fifty seconds left in
that game. So another one, and that was that was
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a good game. I mean, that was a game that
they're playing hard all the time. I mean typically you
just figure out you have to go out and yeah,
they they went out and played haired and they did
a good job. Obviously, went in that one on a
road trip against the Pets Pittsburgh Penguins, and then they
yesterday ended up kind of losing a tougher one. I
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would say, I mean the Cord was kind of standing
on his head more often than not, and but their
goalie kind of held serve and did the same exact
thing against the Islanders zero zero, two three, they go
into overtime, no score, and overtime they go to the shootout.
We score on the first one and then get shut
out on the next two. The Cord stops their first
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two and then gives up the equalizer on the third one.
Then it goes into the sudden death part of it
and they score and we don't, and so kind of
a bad way to end it, although they ended up
still getting three points over the last couple of days.
So pretty good weekend for the Crack And I would say.
Speaker 10 (22:46):
Yeah, a good weekend for them, but of course said
you just you wonder what it's going to take for
us to get that back to back win, that second
win in a back to back game.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Because they were so close to it yesterday.
Speaker 10 (22:56):
I mean, shootout's about as close as you're going to get,
and we still can't get that back to back when.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, and all the way down to literally the last
time that they have a guy skating towards the cord
the third one, the extra yeah, and then it's like
if he just stops that when you end up a
sniper and two of them there, and I mean, you're
still getting points. I mean, I feel good about the
way in which the team's playing. I'm not going to
sit and act like I'm some hockey expert, but I've
watched a whole heck of a lot more hockey in
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the last few years than I ever did in my
life before. And I understand it better because we have
guys like Fitzi and al Kiniski and you know, some
folks over there at the crack and that we get
to talk to that they've taught me a lot. And
I still just kind of watch sports through the prism
of like how hard do they play?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Like, what does it feel like you'll see teams? I
know how limited the scoring is in hockey that if
you get up by two goals, it feels a lot
of times like, well, that's going to be really really
hard to overcome. And yet just thinking back to last
Thursday where they were down two goals going into the
third period and bang bang bang, and all of a
sudden they score and they went that to me is
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something about there's some coaching there there's obviously leadership inside
on the guys wearing skates, obviously the way in which
they play the game is I think it's a good recipe.
It feels like a good recipe moving forward, and they're
right there in the thick of thing. So fun weekend
for the crack and fun to watch them. Even though
you didn't end up getting that win yesterday, Still good
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I think the only person to lose for us last
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week was probably Chuck.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, the Minnesota Green Bay game.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, that wasn't close on that one. Chuck. He was
had to be real happy about the Dallas comeback because
he got that one, right.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, I did. And you did not like that pick.
You did not feel great about it when you made it,
you know.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I didn't feel great about it when you made it,
and ultimately it wasn't great. Philadelphia scores on the first
three and they're up twenty one zip and don't do
anything the rest of the way. That is the opposite
of put them out when you get your foot on
their throat. But we still ended up going four and one,
so good for us. It is that time, So go
ahead and Ash, let's give us give us your.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Pick, all right, Well, we're going to try to keep
things going.
Speaker 10 (26:24):
And I do love it when we've got a game
on a day I'm picking and I can just kind
of we can get an immediate answer. We don't even
know if we start off the week with a fail
or a win. So we are going to go to
San Francisco. Carolina visiting San Francisco. They are seven and
a half point underdogs. Both of these teams have been inconsistent. Granted,
the injuries have been a big problem.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
For San Francisco.
Speaker 10 (26:45):
They do seem to have everybody back, But you know what,
Carolina has been pretty good against the spread. So give
me Carolina plus the seven and a half at San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I don't have any clue what the Carolina Panthers are
me neither, I mean not. They might be the team well, yeah,
they might be the team that I know the least.
Like the Saints, they're just bad. The Falcons are one
that maybe it's a head scratcher. Yeah, are they good?
Are they okay? I mean could they jump up on Sniper,
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a team that's in the top third of the league.
I feel like they could, but I don't know. Like
Carolina is one that I think they might be able
to beat a good team, And I think San Francisco,
as dinged up as they are, is still a team
you bet. You better be cautious.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, and they're healthier now, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah.
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The reason they're they're favored by seven and a half
is that Vegas thinks that they're a better team than
the Carolina Panthers, even though they're they're one game apart. Yeah,
six and five the Panthers are versus seven and four Niners,
and Niners obviously know they have to kind of keep
pace with the two teams the Rams and Seahawks both
went in in front of them if they don't want
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On the other side, we are going to get to
hear from the head coach Mike McDonald about what he
saw and what he thought about the game this week.
Stick around here at Sports Radio ninety three point three
KJRFM Chuck and Buck in the Morning with Ashley Ryan
with we don't have Chuck. He's taking a few days
off and and good for him. Mike McDonald just kind
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of given the answer that I would expect him to give.
And yet it's the way in which I typically feel.
I think that I'm one that I don't like throwing
blame a lot of times. I tend to want to
give credit where credit is due more than casting stones.
And yet there's still yeah, they played hard. I think
that that's something that we expect from, you know, professional
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athletes getting paid a lot. But I mean it really
goes deeper than that. It's how I mean, how sure
are you that you're going to have a spot on
the team next week or next year? When you're on
a one in ten team. There's a lot of guys
that are playing in the Tennessee Titans uniform that aren't
going to be there next year. That's why they're one
in ten and because you so you have to keep
earning your spot. And cam Ward is obviously not one
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of those. I think that he is learning as the
season's going on, and he's learning through the fire. I mean,
he's he's getting harassed on a regular basis, but he
did find ways to make plays and sustain drives. And
so I'm with coach on that where I felt like
they would have put it away sooner, and yet Tennessee
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just did enough to hang around, and they hung around
and hung around, and and you know, there was a
couple of plays or things that probably Hugh and Coach
will dissect about how offensively they didn't just continue to
pull away and kind of bury him. The same time,
I do think there is something there to give him
a little bit of credit about where you know, how
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Tennessee showed up and played hard and didn't just roll
over even though I thought maybe they would.
Speaker 10 (31:10):
Well, and that's not the first time. I mean, they've
played a lot of teams really close this year. They
they're not just like hot garbage, they can't do anything.
But the announcers even yesterday were saying the problem is
that usually they end up shooting themselves in the foot,
and they said yesterday, this is one of the better
games Tennessee has played this season.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Well, you would expect that right week twelve.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
They've had a lot of time to kind of you know,
to start building on the things that they're struggling with regardless,
So I was not surprised that we didn't shut them out.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
I was surprised that it was as close as it was.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, same here, and I mean really it was. I
figured the offense, if they didn't shoot themselves on the foot,
if the Seahawks didn't you know, throw the ball to
the other team, which there was a couple of those
we'll dive into that with you. There was a couple
possible turnover worthy plays, I would imagine, and then but
I figured that the Seahawks offense would be able to
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go do some big things against this defense. You're right,
the Titans aren't good, but they have there's some potential there.
And it starts and almost ends with cam Ward. He
can make some good throws and then he'll miss some
here and there. I think that's just nature, the beast
of being young and first time in the league, and
the game's moving faster than it's ever moved before, and
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that's not fun when you're also getting harassed more than
you've ever been harassed, as far as pockets collapsing around you.
So I think it was Any win in the NFL
is a good win. You can't just go out there
and expect that you're going to just dominate a team.
I thought that there was ways where the Seattle offense
could have put more up on them. But at the
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same time, that's saying quite a bit. You end up
twering thirty points and the critique is, well, you could
have scored more. I think it's more so probably defensively.
How did he their offense play and sustain those drives?
And a lot of times if the game's not in
that same situation, you'll end up you end up stopping
them on third down, which they did nine times. They
went six or seventeen and third down you stop them
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a lot of times they're punting, but in this situation
they ended up going for it like eight times, and
or what was it, I had that somewhere five seven times.
They ended up going for it and completing five of
seven fourth down conversions. So that was a big one.
We did ask or we didn't. They asked Mike McDonald
to go into what he thought about JSN and his
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record breaking performance.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Yeah, just I mean, it's funny. We just told the
team that he did it game the game ball and
I asked him what week it was, and everybody said
it doesn't matter, so we got the right mentality. But
happy for Jasn. I mean, he's doing an incredible job,
brings it every day and he's a great teammate, which
is awesome, you know, so you're really happy for him.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
That is coach Mike McDonald again talking about JSN. The
reason that that was a topic was JSN ends up
catching eight passes on ten targets for one hundred and
sixty seven yards two touchdowns, and and yet the biggest
part of that is he ends up passing DK Metcalf,
who had set the I think it was twenty twenty two,
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when he had set the record for the single season
yards pers twenty twenty excuse me, Jaysn ends up passing him.
He ends up. Now he has one three hundred and
thirteen yards receiving through eleven games, still six games to go,
and yet he is the best as far as yards
go receiver the Seahawks have ever had. I mean, pretty
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amazing what this guy's doing. Weeke in and week out.
Speaker 10 (34:33):
Yeah, And just after when McDonald was giving him the
game ball, I was watching that video like the speech
that McDonald was giving, and he spent the majority of
the minute and a half speech.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
Saying, you know, we got a lot of things that
we got to work on.
Speaker 10 (34:43):
We're going to celebrate this win, but we're also going
to learn a lot from this win, and we'll go
back and we're going to clean all these things up.
And then he gets this big smile on his face
when he goes to give the game ball to JSN,
and you know, says he's one of the best receivers
in the entire league right now, and everybody's just you know, cheering.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Him on, and the kind of walks up like, you know,
oh gosh, Yeah, here, I am. Thanks, guys.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
You know, I just he's a great Not only is
he so incredibly talented, but he just seems to have
the right attitude that everybody would want on their team.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
It's the thing that I guess what irritates me the
most of being now a fifty year old former athlete
is the lack of humility. And it's not because it's
just I think it's ugly right to get up and
boast over someone when you just did your job. Yeah right,
That's what you're getting paid to do, is go out
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now breaking records. It's when you start breaking records and
doing stuff that is getting people to compare you to
Jerry Rice in a way that you look in certain ways,
then yeah you should. Your chest should be puffed up
a little more, you walk a little bit taller. It's
not like I expect people to just be so humble
that they're feeble. To me, it's just that's what your
job is, and so you should like act like you
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expected to do it to some degree. And I think
that's what he does so well, and I think that's
why he's so beloved by his teammates. Because to me,
the biggest thing that I think is negative about being
boastful and arrogant is that it's obvious that you're thinking
higher about yourself than you are thinking about what you
can do better.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Right, And to me, there's always room for improvement always.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I mean if and I would be willing to bet
that Jackson Smith and Jig but doesn't go through practice
starting tomorrow and he's thinking pretty much got this figured out.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
It's just going to keep doing the same thing because
it's working.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah, you keep doing all the things that you're doing well,
and yet there's got to be something. There's got to
be something that you didn't do that you think you
could have done better. And to me, that's where humility
in sports as an athlete kind of wins the day.
So we shall see. It looks like we got a
good one on our hands right now with Jackson Smith
and Jig. But we'll dive into a little bit more
of that on the other side of the break, because
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it is time for Monday Morning Quarterback with Hugh Breed
Love Millin. Stick around here at ninety three point three KGRFM.
They're really a great asset that they've brought in.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Donald with time going up top for Jackson.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Smith and chick Buck drops.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It in the bucket and he wonked back pedal for
a touchdown. Comes pressure from Witherspoon in Troubler's war down
it goes they brought pressure that time Witherspoon from the
secondary and Byron Murphy ends up with the sack.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
On second and four, play action Darnald to the end.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Zon Spif then Chekeba with his second touchdown of the
day thirteen yards, and Seattle storms down the field to
grab six out of the locker room for Seattle. Defensively,
pressure comes war to trouble.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Williams has him in the sack.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Sixth second of the year for the Vet Leonard Williams
and he brings up fourth down. Donald back to Charbonnay
bouncing to the end. Charboney talks the goal line touchdown
Seattle five yards, scamper per Zac Charbonay, we.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Got one game, ball man, and this guy's uh right now,
this guy's the best.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Receiver in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Talk about it set the Seahawks single season.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Record for most yards and what.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
Week is it?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, thank you the Fox for those headlines highlights. I
mean it's not those aren't headlines. What I'm gonna do
now is headline. But I do want to welcome you
guys all in. This is Chuck and Buck in the
Morning Show with Ashley Ryan and No Illinois boy, Illinois
boy illinoying boy? Oh did I say that out loud?
Speaker 7 (02:14):
Ck Burr?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I did this? Gotcha on that one? Here he's asleep.
I like shade him when he's not here. We are
back and Chuck has taken a few days off and
enjoy the week off for Thanksgiving. We got these first
three days with you, and we are going to talk
to Greg Bell here in a second, but first you
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want to go over a couple of the highlights that
happened over the weekend. The Seahawks obviously did win at
Tennessee thirty to twenty four. They moved the ball well,
didn't necessarily finish in the red zone the way that
they need to, and a couple other things. Some misstackles
a punt return for a touchdown. The next thing you know,
you're a on site kick away from things getting a
little hairy. But they held on and ended up holding
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serve and still find themselves in second place, right behind
the Rams. They are at eight and three. The Rams
are at nine and two. Krack and win and lose
on Saturday and Sunday in a back to back, they
won three to two in overtime. I'm on tour ended
up getting an overtime goal in that one to win.
On Saturday yesterday they have a zero zero game that
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goes through overtime and then into shootout, and sure enough,
it's about as close as you can come to winning
and not winning. They made their first goal in the shootout,
then it got stuffed on the next two. The cords
stuff the first two, gives up the third one if
he if he finishes there and blocks that third one,
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we end up winning that thing. Instead. They score on
the fourth one and we do not. Oh excuse me,
I didn't. I don't know if that went over the
air and whatever, off button talk whatever. Anyways, the Huskies
end up smoking UCLA. We just did talk about that.
That was the kickoff to hates Giving for Ashley. It
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will culminate with hates Giving a week from Saturday when
the Ducks come into town, and she'll celebrate Thanksgiving in
the middle of it. But that might be the last
trip to the Rose Bowl. We shall see how that
whole thing works out, but they end up if that
is a final time they play, their sands are outside
of a Rose Bowl appearance. A forty eight to fourteen
win over UCLA will be nice, big night for Demon Williams.
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Two touchdown throws and two more on the ground or
was it one touchdown throw too?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I think it was two. Anyway, you dubbed soccer team
advances as well, both of them do. The men beat
SMU one zero to advance to the Sweet sixteen, and
the women's team beat top seeded Virginia five to four
in penalties and they're headed to the Elite eight in
the NCAA Tournament. So kudos to them. Go score goals,
men and women. Before the show started today, we ended
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up catching up with Greg Bell pretty much as he
was boarding his flight back from Tennessee, and we found
out what he was thinking about the Seahawks win this weekend.
Speaker 8 (05:05):
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Speaker 1 (05:28):
Welcome in. We got g Bell here. He's getting ready
to fly back from Nashville. I think I'm sure he's
got his cowboy boots on. He might have taken the
spurs off. Good morning, Greg, How you doing brother, I'm
good man.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Yeah, the FAA doesn't like spurs.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, that makes sense. Still got your chaps on, though,
I would imagine for the for the.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Ride, chaps pat playing the part.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Yeah, as I mentioned, best NFL city, there's some good
ones with the Nationals.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
National's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, Well, off the air, we'll have to discuss. I've
had some pretty good times in Nashville over the years,
But I don't think averyone wants to hear about that
right now. They want to hear what your thoughts are
on this game. Obviously, the Seahawks go to you know,
travel cross country and pull off a w against a
one to ten Tennessee team and yet far closer than
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a lot of people thought. Myself, I know you were
not thinking it was going to be quite as close.
What was the overarching reason as to why the game
came down to a six point game at thirty to
twenty four.
Speaker 9 (06:30):
Well, they got slopping the second half, Bucky, it was
a thirty.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
To ten game.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
It was twenty three to three. They scored twenty three
on answered points. They won the game by early in
the third quarter, late in the second and then it
just got sloppy and the offense stalled. The defense gave
up a couple of touchdowns. It was a cosmetic touchdown
with forty seconds left in the game when it was
thirty to seventeen. So the final score was not at
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all indicative of how most of the game went, the
part of the winning part of the game decisively to Seattle.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
They were alarming things though, in that.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
The defense again the defense again controlled most of the game.
Speaker 9 (07:15):
Sam Donald got away with three passes it should have
been intercepted, including on the first drive of the game
that could have been a ten to pick six cornerback
out in the flat with Kenneth Walker that should have
been intercepted, but Walker broke the pass up and they
ended up getting a field goal on the next play.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
There was no one between the cornerback and the other
goal line. If Walker didn't peel back and break that
pass up, Donald should have never thrown it. Two other
passes that should have been intercepted.
Speaker 9 (07:44):
Better team, that result may have been different, and Donald
certainly would have added to his NFL leading turnover total
against a better team.
Speaker 10 (07:53):
That'sway Greg, I have to ask you, So, this is
the second game that I've really noticed that. And I
hate picking on the defense because they have been really
incredible to watch, but we're missing I'm seeing a lot
of missed tackles and there was quite a few yesterday
where it's like, yes, you're almost getting to cam Ward
and then all of a sudden, you know he's dumping
it off to someone and that person's turning that into
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a fifteen yard game where it should have probably been
a tackle for a loss.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Are they are?
Speaker 10 (08:20):
Is the defense? Like, are there just some things they
need to clean up? Is that something that I should
be concerned about?
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (08:27):
And yes, Okay, it's been a season long problem and
we've talked about it a couple times on your show.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
But better teams are going to exploit that.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Cam Ward on third and fourth down yesterday exploited that
his receivers after the catch.
Speaker 9 (08:42):
Exploited that because they had a big lead, they didn't
lose the game.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Because of it.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
But also their defense played minus four starters coming into
the game, four injured starters. Ernest Jones, their best tackler
and their centerpiece of defense, didn't play.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
He was inactive and injured.
Speaker 9 (08:58):
And then they lost a fifth, Tyle Cotter, who is
a phill instarter, got injured during the game. So half
their defense was missing. I mean, every team in the
NFL is injured.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
There's no excuse that they have to play, but there
are mitigating factors to explain it. But even having said that,
when they were almost full strength, which they haven't been,
as we mentioned fully on defense, and then the second
edition is the fifth play of the season, but when
they're almost close to full strength, they still had tackling issues.
It's now going on December. This is almost who they are.
(09:30):
It's tough to fix that problem.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
This late in the season.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
But they get Julian Love back, and they hope this
week against Minnesota they'll get Ernest Jones back. They're gonna
get better than they were yesterday. I keep saying this,
Are they good enough to beat the Rams. Are they
good enough to beat the forty nine ers? And if
they aren't, they're gonna be on the road in the
playoffs in January. And they're back where they were for
the last month or last decade. But I hear you, it's.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Been a season long shoe on defense.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
For all the great things they've done defensively, tacklings are
made an issue.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
It has. And yet, I mean maybe that's the sole
concern going into it, because you know, you look at
numbers and it just kind of felt that way. I mean,
not all wins are the same, not all six point
wins are the same. You're right, you end up jumping
out to a big lead and you don't necessarily have
to play perfect or or do everything right in order
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to pull out the w. And yet that's a team
I think my confidence and yours, you know, you were
very confident going into this too, that they would be
able to win by a lot bigger margin than six.
For sure, to me, it was I watched this team
play the Titans, that is, and I didn't think this
is a team that was capable of manufacturing long drives,
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and so what was it that was enabling them to
continue to move the chains. I mean they end up
almost doubling them up in time of possession over the
course of the whole game.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Yeah, fifteen play drive to start and they turn them
away in side the five yard line. And that's why
I became a field goal instead of a touchdown right
off the top. But I am well, yeah, that short
short third downs is the problem. And if you in
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the NFL, if your short third downs, the offense can
do anything they want to in their playbook. That's what
happened yesterday. Tennessee short enough third downs, they often went
forward on fourth down. Of course, they were trailing the
game and chasing the game, so they had to. But
Seattle didn't do well enough in the early downs to
make third down long so their pastorists could get after
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cam Ward, and Ward was elusive in the past rush.
When they did pass rusts after they lost containment, they
allowed Ward to extend plays.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
All of that so I'm repeating myself.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
But there were a lot of concerning things about yesterday
that a better team, that result might not have been
the same.
Speaker 10 (11:58):
Okay, something that I don't think think any of us
were concerned about. Well, we might have been going into
the game would Grayzabel play?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Well, he did. He's amazing.
Speaker 10 (12:06):
Mike McDonald called him unbelievable for being able to play.
Seven days later, you wrote an article you said, he's
quickly becoming.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
A folk hero. How impressive is greys Abel?
Speaker 5 (12:16):
He's all that in a bag of chips.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Actually, he is beyond beyond what they thought they were
going to get with him.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
They knew he'd start from day one.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
They didn't know he was going to not give up
any sacks all season long. They didn't know he'd play
off of a serious looking knee injury seven days later
against one of the best interior defensive linemen in the
league and Jeffrey Simmons. When I talked to him after game,
he was humbled by Simmons.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
He said that I joked with him at the start
of the interview.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
I said, so now you're indestructivile too, meaning he played
off the knee injury and he was thinking about Simmons
still and he said, no, no, no, far from it. Simmons
ninety eight is a great player, and he gave it
to me and I was watching him some of the binoculars.
He still blocks two guys on one play, Simmons got
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him a few times, especially quickness off the snap, and
he had a false start and a holding penalty.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
But really good and he is.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
He's solidifying that offensive line and the left side with
Charles Crofts signed at least through next year, and they're
going to try to work on extension compared to I mean,
think of Lake and Tomlinson and the guys they've left guard.
He's a quantum leap and he's only a rookie. He's
gonna only get better.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah. Well, I mean, if we're going to talk about
people that are really good, probably shouldn't go too much
further without talking about Jackson Smith and Jigba. I mean,
breaking the Seahawks singles season record. The guy just continues
to get it done, even though you know he's got
to be the focal point of every defense he's going against.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
They cover and they bracket him, they shade safeties over
to him, and he still gets opened. He it was
the touchdown the sixty three yard yesterday was an improv route.
It wasn't called that way when they saw they had
a safety manned up on him when he went in motion.
So that's when Smith and Jibobs changed his route and
then that play was made because the offensive line gave
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Darnold time. Often he doesn't get that much time to
have out Smith and Jigg but a run a forty
yard route from left to right, and that's what he did,
and he was able to cross the.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Field and become open.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
And when you have that much time, you're often going
to get Smith and jigbit open.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
But that play, in particular, sixty three yard touchdown. Guys,
he looked to me like Jerry Rice.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Oh wow, that's high praise. I would say we ended
up getting cut off there a little bit. I think
that they might have just yanked the phone out of
his hand and told him buckle your damn seat belt,
bell and take your spurs off. I'm not sure exactly
what went on there, but it is what it is.
We ended up getting quite a bit out of him,
and it actually leads us right into something that I
(15:01):
wanted to talk with you about, was the Jackson, Smith
and Jig. But I mean he did he does look
like Jerry Rice. I mean at this point, I mean,
that's a huge praise. And I bet if Hugh Millon's
listening right, he's like you watch your mouth.
Speaker 10 (15:13):
Well, and to be fair, Greg said, the way he
was able to move his body and the way the speed, Yeah,
the off speed and things.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Well, that's the part that is the most impressive. I mean,
I expect every NFL wide receiver to catch the ball
when it's thrown right to his hands, right. I mean,
there's more difficult catches and easy ones, and he obviously
does that. His route running. Everybody knew coming out of
the draft that he was really good at that. I mean,
Hugh had broke down how this guy's played with some
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elite NFL wide receivers and yet he's known as the
top of the heap. He's the one that is known
as kind of having the it factor when it comes
to being a receiver. We saw him last year. I mean,
he had a great year last year, and yet he
was still we were always talking about why isn't DK
used more, Why isn't this and that DK's gone, and
now he's the focal point. I don't think anybody was
(16:03):
envisioning him doing what he's doing now. He brought he
breaks the Seahawks single season receiving record as far as
yards go with six games to go. Still, I mean,
DK had the record. He ended up beating him this weekend.
Eleven games. He's had three games that he didn't go
over one hundred yards. Yesterday it was his first game
with multiple touchdowns, and yet that second possession of the
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Seahawks was the first. Was that that long touchdown and
it si the sixty three yarder that basically they got
that and they never looked back at that point. It was.
There's just stuff that he does and I can't wait
to ask you about it because he's going to be
able to dissect it far better than I can. But
it's the it's obvious to me the idea of being
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able to recognize where the ball is and where it's
going to be when it gets there, and that's something
that you can't measure. That you can't. I don't care
how many times you do the you can't measure it.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Good scouts, NFL scouts, I'm sure can see that a
guy does it right where it's oh, that might be overthrown.
And they turn on the jets right and you see
some guys that they slow down for some reason and
all of a sudden they miss it by two inches.
It goes off their fingertips. I think Jackson Smith and
Jigba has maybe the best that I can remember as
far as the ability to win the balls in the air.
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He just recognizes what to do, and that one was
a prime example of I'm sure it's something that wide
receiver coaches try to teach guys. Where he's going, he's
running full speed, he recognizes where that ball is going
to come down, so he slows down just a little bit, forces,
you know, the dB to be Oh is it going
to be underthrown right? I don't want to do pi.
I don't want to run into him. I can't run
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through him. And then all of a sudden, the last second,
he speeds back up and just puts his hand on
him just a little bit, not a push off, doesn't
extend his arm just enough, like yep, that's as far
as you get to go, because I know the ball
is going to go right over your outstretched arm, and
then you know, breaks that one tackle and takes it
to the house. But it just as I mean, watching
this guy week after week, when you know that the
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opponent is saying, we can't let this guy go off
on us again, and yet you know, Tennessee not a
great team, but you know they I'm sure that their
thought was, we got to keep this guy from beating us.
And he still gets catches eight balls for one hundred
and sixty seven yards and two touchdowns. Pretty pretty unbelievable
season so far for this guy.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, he's really fun to watch. He's incredible.
Speaker 10 (18:26):
Just on that sixty three yard touchdown to see like
the way you're talking about, yeah, that he slowed down
and then kind of took that extra step to pick
up speed again and the defender just stumbles because he
can't figure out what's happening and keep up. I mean,
he makes it look really easy, and it's I just
find it so funny because I don't hear him being
(18:46):
talked about like we hear the great wide receivers get
talked about, And here he is just dominating the NFL
this year, and yeah, people cannot can't stop him. And
you know that was the thought last year after when
DK or in the off season when DK left, was well,
now you know, now everyone's attention is going to be
focused on JSN, So how is he going to do now?
The only reason he was really good last year was
(19:08):
because everyone was focusing their attention on DK but clearly
that was not the case.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, Yeah, unbelievable. I'm excited to hear more from from
Hugh and we'll have him from eight to ten and
and coach will be on for mondaymoron Quarterback at from
nine to ten and so I can't wait to hear
their takes on this kid and how amazing his season
has been so far. Well, we'll dive into more of
that as this show goes on. On the other side
of the break, we were going to discuss the Crack
(19:33):
and they ended up winning one and losing one back
to back. Kind of a great win and then a
little bit of a heartbreaker yesterday, but we'll talk about
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enter to win that TV cracking ended up having guess
a good road trip, I suppose. I mean, they're getting
points even when they're not winning. They they won on Saturday,
Montor ended up went into overtime. Montor ended up getting
an overtime goal with I think fifty seconds left in
that game. So another one, and that was that was
(21:50):
a good game. I mean, that was a game that
they're playing hard all the time. I mean typically you
just figure out you have to go out and yeah,
they they went out and played haired and they did
a good job. Obviously, went in that one on a
road trip against the Pets Pittsburgh Penguins, and then they
yesterday ended up kind of losing a tougher one. I
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would say, I mean the Cord was kind of standing
on his head more often than not, and but their
goalie kind of held serve and did the same exact
thing against the Islanders zero zero, two three, they go
into overtime, no score, and overtime they go to the shootout.
We score on the first one and then get shut
out on the next two. The Cord stops their first
(22:31):
two and then gives up the equalizer on the third one.
Then it goes into the sudden death part of it
and they score and we don't, and so kind of
a bad way to end it, although they ended up
still getting three points over the last couple of days.
So pretty good weekend for the Crack And I would say.
Speaker 10 (22:46):
Yeah, a good weekend for them, but of course said
you just you wonder what it's going to take for
us to get that back to back win, that second
win in a back to back game.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Because they were so close to it yesterday.
Speaker 10 (22:56):
I mean, shootout's about as close as you're going to get,
and we still can't get that back to back when.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, and all the way down to literally the last
time that they have a guy skating towards the cord
the third one, the extra yeah, and then it's like
if he just stops that when you end up a
sniper and two of them there, and I mean, you're
still getting points. I mean, I feel good about the
way in which the team's playing. I'm not going to
sit and act like I'm some hockey expert, but I've
watched a whole heck of a lot more hockey in
(23:22):
the last few years than I ever did in my
life before. And I understand it better because we have
guys like Fitzi and al Kiniski and you know, some
folks over there at the crack and that we get
to talk to that they've taught me a lot. And
I still just kind of watch sports through the prism
of like how hard do they play?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Like, what does it feel like you'll see teams? I
know how limited the scoring is in hockey that if
you get up by two goals, it feels a lot
of times like, well, that's going to be really really
hard to overcome. And yet just thinking back to last
Thursday where they were down two goals going into the
third period and bang bang bang, and all of a
sudden they score and they went that to me is
(24:00):
something about there's some coaching there there's obviously leadership inside
on the guys wearing skates, obviously the way in which
they play the game is I think it's a good recipe.
It feels like a good recipe moving forward, and they're
right there in the thick of thing. So fun weekend
for the crack and fun to watch them. Even though
you didn't end up getting that win yesterday, Still good
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Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, the Minnesota Green Bay game.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, that wasn't close on that one. Chuck. He was
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he got that one, right.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
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You did not feel great about it when you made it,
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I didn't feel great about it when you made it,
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three and they're up twenty one zip and don't do
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Pick, all right, Well, we're going to try to keep
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Speaker 10 (26:24):
And I do love it when we've got a game
on a day I'm picking and I can just kind
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a half point underdogs. Both of these teams have been inconsistent. Granted,
the injuries have been a big problem.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
For San Francisco.
Speaker 10 (26:45):
They do seem to have everybody back, But you know what,
Carolina has been pretty good against the spread. So give
me Carolina plus the seven and a half at San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I don't have any clue what the Carolina Panthers are
me neither, I mean not. They might be the team well, yeah,
they might be the team that I know the least.
Like the Saints, they're just bad. The Falcons are one
that maybe it's a head scratcher. Yeah, are they good?
Are they okay? I mean could they jump up on Sniper,
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a team that's in the top third of the league.
I feel like they could, but I don't know. Like
Carolina is one that I think they might be able
to beat a good team, And I think San Francisco,
as dinged up as they are, is still a team
you bet. You better be cautious.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, and they're healthier now, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah.
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The reason they're they're favored by seven and a half
is that Vegas thinks that they're a better team than
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six and five the Panthers are versus seven and four Niners,
and Niners obviously know they have to kind of keep
pace with the two teams the Rams and Seahawks both
went in in front of them if they don't want
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saw and what he thought about the game this week.
Stick around here at Sports Radio ninety three point three
KJRFM Chuck and Buck in the Morning with Ashley Ryan
with we don't have Chuck. He's taking a few days
off and and good for him. Mike McDonald just kind
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of given the answer that I would expect him to give.
And yet it's the way in which I typically feel.
I think that I'm one that I don't like throwing
blame a lot of times. I tend to want to
give credit where credit is due more than casting stones.
And yet there's still yeah, they played hard. I think
that that's something that we expect from, you know, professional
(30:01):
athletes getting paid a lot. But I mean it really
goes deeper than that. It's how I mean, how sure
are you that you're going to have a spot on
the team next week or next year? When you're on
a one in ten team. There's a lot of guys
that are playing in the Tennessee Titans uniform that aren't
going to be there next year. That's why they're one
in ten and because you so you have to keep
earning your spot. And cam Ward is obviously not one
(30:22):
of those. I think that he is learning as the
season's going on, and he's learning through the fire. I mean,
he's he's getting harassed on a regular basis, but he
did find ways to make plays and sustain drives. And
so I'm with coach on that where I felt like
they would have put it away sooner, and yet Tennessee
(30:44):
just did enough to hang around, and they hung around
and hung around, and and you know, there was a
couple of plays or things that probably Hugh and Coach
will dissect about how offensively they didn't just continue to
pull away and kind of bury him. The same time,
I do think there is something there to give him
a little bit of credit about where you know, how
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Tennessee showed up and played hard and didn't just roll
over even though I thought maybe they would.
Speaker 10 (31:10):
Well, and that's not the first time. I mean, they've
played a lot of teams really close this year. They
they're not just like hot garbage, they can't do anything.
But the announcers even yesterday were saying the problem is
that usually they end up shooting themselves in the foot,
and they said yesterday, this is one of the better
games Tennessee has played this season.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Well, you would expect that right week twelve.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
They've had a lot of time to kind of you know,
to start building on the things that they're struggling with regardless,
So I was not surprised that we didn't shut them out.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
I was surprised that it was as close as it was.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, same here, and I mean really it was. I
figured the offense, if they didn't shoot themselves on the foot,
if the Seahawks didn't you know, throw the ball to
the other team, which there was a couple of those
we'll dive into that with you. There was a couple
possible turnover worthy plays, I would imagine, and then but
I figured that the Seahawks offense would be able to
(32:02):
go do some big things against this defense. You're right,
the Titans aren't good, but they have there's some potential there.
And it starts and almost ends with cam Ward. He
can make some good throws and then he'll miss some
here and there. I think that's just nature, the beast
of being young and first time in the league, and
the game's moving faster than it's ever moved before, and
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that's not fun when you're also getting harassed more than
you've ever been harassed, as far as pockets collapsing around you.
So I think it was Any win in the NFL
is a good win. You can't just go out there
and expect that you're going to just dominate a team.
I thought that there was ways where the Seattle offense
could have put more up on them. But at the
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same time, that's saying quite a bit. You end up
twering thirty points and the critique is, well, you could
have scored more. I think it's more so probably defensively.
How did he their offense play and sustain those drives?
And a lot of times if the game's not in
that same situation, you'll end up you end up stopping
them on third down, which they did nine times. They
went six or seventeen and third down you stop them
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a lot of times they're punting, but in this situation
they ended up going for it like eight times, and
or what was it, I had that somewhere five seven times.
They ended up going for it and completing five of
seven fourth down conversions. So that was a big one.
We did ask or we didn't. They asked Mike McDonald
to go into what he thought about JSN and his
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record breaking performance.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Yeah, just I mean, it's funny. We just told the
team that he did it game the game ball and
I asked him what week it was, and everybody said
it doesn't matter, so we got the right mentality. But
happy for Jasn. I mean, he's doing an incredible job,
brings it every day and he's a great teammate, which
is awesome, you know, so you're really happy for him.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
That is coach Mike McDonald again talking about JSN. The
reason that that was a topic was JSN ends up
catching eight passes on ten targets for one hundred and
sixty seven yards two touchdowns, and and yet the biggest
part of that is he ends up passing DK Metcalf,
who had set the I think it was twenty twenty two,
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when he had set the record for the single season
yards pers twenty twenty excuse me, Jaysn ends up passing him.
He ends up. Now he has one three hundred and
thirteen yards receiving through eleven games, still six games to go,
and yet he is the best as far as yards
go receiver the Seahawks have ever had. I mean, pretty
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amazing what this guy's doing. Weeke in and week out.
Speaker 10 (34:33):
Yeah, And just after when McDonald was giving him the
game ball, I was watching that video like the speech
that McDonald was giving, and he spent the majority of
the minute and a half speech.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
Saying, you know, we got a lot of things that
we got to work on.
Speaker 10 (34:43):
We're going to celebrate this win, but we're also going
to learn a lot from this win, and we'll go
back and we're going to clean all these things up.
And then he gets this big smile on his face
when he goes to give the game ball to JSN,
and you know, says he's one of the best receivers
in the entire league right now, and everybody's just you know, cheering.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Him on, and the kind of walks up like, you know,
oh gosh, Yeah, here, I am. Thanks, guys.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
You know, I just he's a great Not only is
he so incredibly talented, but he just seems to have
the right attitude that everybody would want on their team.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
It's the thing that I guess what irritates me the
most of being now a fifty year old former athlete
is the lack of humility. And it's not because it's
just I think it's ugly right to get up and
boast over someone when you just did your job. Yeah right,
That's what you're getting paid to do, is go out
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now breaking records. It's when you start breaking records and
doing stuff that is getting people to compare you to
Jerry Rice in a way that you look in certain ways,
then yeah you should. Your chest should be puffed up
a little more, you walk a little bit taller. It's
not like I expect people to just be so humble
that they're feeble. To me, it's just that's what your
job is, and so you should like act like you
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expected to do it to some degree. And I think
that's what he does so well, and I think that's
why he's so beloved by his teammates. Because to me,
the biggest thing that I think is negative about being
boastful and arrogant is that it's obvious that you're thinking
higher about yourself than you are thinking about what you
can do better.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Right, And to me, there's always room for improvement always.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I mean if and I would be willing to bet
that Jackson Smith and Jig but doesn't go through practice
starting tomorrow and he's thinking pretty much got this figured out.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
It's just going to keep doing the same thing because
it's working.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah, you keep doing all the things that you're doing well,
and yet there's got to be something. There's got to
be something that you didn't do that you think you
could have done better. And to me, that's where humility
in sports as an athlete kind of wins the day.
So we shall see. It looks like we got a
good one on our hands right now with Jackson Smith
and Jig. But we'll dive into a little bit more
of that on the other side of the break, because
(36:50):
it is time for Monday Morning Quarterback with Hugh Breed
Love Millin. Stick around here at ninety three point three KGRFM.
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