November 25, 2025 • 34 mins
Headlines and 12th Man news with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune) Sam Darnold faces his old team, Julian Love eligible to come IR, other injury updates and the traveling mass of Seahawks fans, we get all the latest 12th man news from gregg! :30- The Dawgs host the Ducks on Saturday, how confident are we feeling about our respective teams? :35- It’s fact or fiction time! Hopefully Bucky’s pick is better than Ashley’s was yesterday! :45- JSN is chasing that record! Jaxon Smith-Njigba is 651 yards away from Calvin Johnson’s single-season receiving yards record. With 6 games to-go, can he set a new NFL record?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Heoln up in the shotgun. He's got McCaffrey too, was left.
Two receivers right, single man left. Here's the SNAT party
back looking left, Rose left off the slam cut by
Jennings inside.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
The block breaks the tackling and he had the one
touchdown forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Chawat Jennings made that catch. It looked like the Panthers
hadn't wrapped up, but he bounced out, spun to his
left into the end zone for a twelve yard touchdown,
and San Francisco is taking.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
A six to nothing lead.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Second down of three, forty nine ers at the Panthers
twelve I formation party under center. Here's the snap toss play.
McCaffrey running left, has a block, cuts it up down
to the five.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
McCaffrey to the end zone, touchdown, forty nine ers on
twelve yard touchdown run for Christian McCaffery, his seventh rushing
touchdown of the year, his twelfth overall, and the forty
nine ers lead.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Is sixteen to three. Tavian Sanders in motion from left
to right. Young back pump think he was right, rush
coming grows deep down.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
The field, got a man caught touchdown. Carolina it's tenor
Rollo mc billin. He beat Bernano Green right down the
scene on twenty nine yard Touchsnowns right and with forty
nine seconds to go with the third it's now the
forty nine or seventeen.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The Panthers nine have the pat coming up.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Thank you Westwood One for those highlights. I didn't call
them headlines this time.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm making progress.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I do.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
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bad Boy. We do have some headlines, obviously, Seattle Seahawks
moving on from the Tennessee Titans win and the Vikings
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come into town. That will be interesting. This is where
Sam Donald was last year. This is they came in
last year and beat the Seahawks with Sam Donald. So
the one nice thing is, well, I shouldn't say nice thing.
One thing that's in the favor of the Seahawks is
you don't know for sure who's going to be playing
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quarterback for the team you're going against. I think Max
what's his name Brosnan had pulled up here somewhere. We'll
ask Greg about it. They have a quarterback that played
at New Hampshire and then transferred to Minnesota is probably
going to be the quarterback because JJ McCarthy is in
concussion protocol. Another quarterback news, Zach Taylor confirms Joe Burrow
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is going to play on Thanksgiving Night. That is going
to be interesting to see if he can turn a
season that has been horrible around or if he can
just stay healthy for that matter. Baker Mayfield also got
hurt in the Monday Night Football or Sunday Night Football
game Sunday Night football game that he had a low
grade shoulder spraying. Word is they don't know for sure
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if he's in to play, but it sounds like he's
going to try to play through it.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Obviously.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Coming up this weekend is the Huskies hosting the Ducks.
That is going to be a good one. Ashley and
I are going to continue to talk trash to one another.
She likes playing that darn song all the time, and
I think that maybe her daughter's going to try to
beat my sun up when we tailgate together. So that'll
be interesting. We'll find out how that whole thing pans out.
But as of right now, it is time that we
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get our Seahawks insider Greg Bell on the horn.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
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Speaker 4 (04:34):
Oh those celebratory bells right there, those are always nice.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Greg. Are you ready for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Are you preparing for Christmas already? Which boat are you in?
Do you prematurely celebrate Christmas or not?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Had a boy? Thank you?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yeah? Wait, Thanksgiving gets its beautiful place. It's a good
holiday for us. My daughter's home from Connecticut for college,
and yeah, Thanksgivings a big deal for us.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
How about your boy? Is he going to be around
or no?
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Oh yeah, he's here too, okay before of us. It's
like old times again.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
So yeah, we're I was talking to about. We went
to a boxing class last night. I haven't done that
since my yearly year West Point. I've had to take boxing.
It was fun and we didn't just do the aerobic boxing.
We were actually with gloves and took me a little bit
of shadow sparring.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Okay, so there was no actual punch, no sparring. Well,
punch each other, did you that?
Speaker 7 (05:31):
Punches each other?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Stay carrying punches? But my wife thought I got in
a little too many extra on her.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Oh so yeah, you've got some making up to do.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
For Thanksgiving. It sounds like, yeah, yeah, I'm not going
to mess with my wife any longer.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I'm smarter than that. Yeah, my wife could.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Kick my just drop my gloves like I'm done, I quit.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I quit.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
A good call, by the way, happy wife, happy life.
Definitely don't punch your wife too terrible times, at least
if it's not in fun.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
Yeah, if you're not boxing, never do it.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, never do.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
It that way.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Obviously. I don't think we have to. I don't think
we have to tell Greg that. Well gee, I mean
we're kind of moving on right. Turkey Day is making
the week a little bit shorter. Football will be here
before you know it. I mean, we actually never talked
about the fact that you got today and tomorrow and
then you got five basically five straight days of football
if you include Saturday, which is a big day for
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college football this week with all the rivalry games.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But Seahawks are moving on right. They end up pulling out.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
A w got a little sloppy, got a little bit
closer than anybody thought it should be. But now it's
time to move towards the vikings. I mean, I guess
one storyline, Sam Donald, that's where he played last year.
He brought this same team in saans him obviously and
obviously a few other changes, and beat the Seahawks here
last season. You think Sam Donald's thinking anything about that
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or is there any information that he's being able to
give to where it gives even more of an advantage
to the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah, I do think this is not an ordinary game
for him, and there's a tangible advantage that he knows
the style and the play calling of Kevin O'Connell. And
he won't ever admit to this this week, and he'll
say it's another game, But this is the team Minnesota
that resurrected his career, and it was an accidental resurrection
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because JJ McCarthy was supposed to be the starter as
the rookie tenth overall pick last year, blows out his
knee in the summer and Sam Donald's hand at the job.
A lot of fans might know during the season when
they needed veteran depth, this Vikings actually had Sam Donalds
starting Daniel Jones as the back up, and they let
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both of them go, and now McCarthy not only is concussed,
he's struggled up to that point. The Vikings are four
and seven. You mentioned the undrafted rookie quarterback from New
Hampshire Minnesota, Brosmer, who's in line to start because Carson
Wentz is out with a shoulder injury. You have as
many injuries and in effect in this a quarterback, you're
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going to be four and seven, like the playoff team
Minnesota's got. They went from fourteen and three with Sam
Donald last year to four and seven without them this year.
There are a lot of people in Minnesota and maybe
someone that Viking's building who will regret the decisions they've
made at quarterback so far. And we'll see what McCarthy become.
He's only ten games in his NFL career. But to
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say the least, this is setting up optimally for the Seahawks,
and so I think we, oh.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
And is it setting up optimally for their defense because obviously,
you know, we talked about how they were slopping in
the second half last weekend, and you attributed quite a
bit of that to injuries, which is, you know, obviously
a big issue. So do we have any updates. I'm
hearing that maybe Ernest Jones and Tyreese Night are playing.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
At night more than Jones looks like he's untracked by
Night is emerging from the concussion proto called Mike McDonald
told us yesterday, and it looks like he'll practice on Wednesday.
The inside weekside linebacker Ernest Jones is quote itching to play,
McDonald said, but that they're going to see on beginning
Wednesday if he can get on the field. They usually
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give him rest days on Wednesday, veteran rest days, so
he may not get on the field till Thursday, which
will be more of an indication of whether he can play.
In my sense, Ashley is that they're both going to
play okay and that will help. And Julian Love is
eligible to come back off injured reserve to return to
practice this week. So is Eric Salbert a veteran tight
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end as a matter of fact, But McDonald said he's
not yet ready to declare that Love's going to do that.
They're trying to be conservative with him so that he
can come back and stay back for the rest of
the season. But they could have three starters back on
defense and the defense that needs it right now.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Jee there's not a lot of coaches in the league, obviously.
Mike McDonald's a year and a half into is head
coaching tenure. But so there's not a lot of resume
on there, and yet this is one guy who at
this point has the upper hand. Want to know, in
Kevin O'Connell, do you recall anything from last year that
was troublesome because we give a lot of credit Kevin
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o'donald gets a lot of credit for play calling in
the offensive mind. And so we just watched a game
a couple of weeks ago where it was McVeigh his
offensive mind against you know, McDonald's defensive mind, and and
it turned out to be quite the battle and most
certainly one that I think, regardless of the outcome of
the game, people might think Mike McDonald won that that.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Part of the battle.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
This is one where that it was not the case
last year the Minnesota Vikings beat the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
And so, how are you feeling or how.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Should people be feeling about the Kevin O'Connell McDonald matchup?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Well, Bucky, to me, the biggest difference between the Seahawks
defense right now and last year when the Vikings came
in here is pass rush, and they weren't really effective
in affecting Donald enough. He threw three touchdowns, no interceptions
in almost three hundred yards that game in Seattle last year.
About this time this year, he's been able to McDonald's
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been able to get pressure with the front four. Now
against Tennessee, he blitzed Devin Witherspoon in particular, more than
he's blitzed Witherspoon I've noticed in an entire game, Witherspoon
got home a couple times. I was joking with Witherspoon
after the game in Nashville Sunday that he should have
gotten some of the sack that Derek Hall got because
Witherspoon's blitz sent cam Ward right in to Derek Hall
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for that sack. Those Halls for a sack of the season. Haul,
by the way, told me that he'd been waiting forever
for that, for like years since he last sat the sack.
But they they have options now in pressuring. They can
rely on their front four with Leonard Williams and Byron Murphy,
who picked up another sack. He told me that he's
passed his sack goal already for this season and he
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still had six games to play. To Marcus Lawrence, those
guys have really changed formed how McDonald can play defense
now he can be trickier with O'Connell than he was
last year. He was trickier with mcmcveigh a couple of
weeks ago than he was last year against the Rams.
If you can pressure with four and have seven back
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there to play all kinds of coverage as shell man
Man's own hybrids, cover four, cover six, two deep, single high,
it's just dealer's choice back there for the play caller
on defense. If your front four is getting home and
now you're gonna get a rookie quarterback, and undrafted rookie
quarterback who's never seen what McDonald's New Hampshire's the defensive
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New Hampshire phase for four of his five college season,
never ever did what McDonald's gonna throw at him on Sunday.
That's the decisive advantage for Seattle here, so O'Connell, it
could be Bill Wallash, it doesn't matter. The cards are
so in Seattle's favor here of an undrafted rookie quarterback
against a team that's getting pressure with four, that allows
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McDonald to play every thing Poe Prie on his defense.
Speaker 8 (13:02):
Greg It was noticeable in Nashville the Seahawks amount of
Seahawks fans that traveled, and I have noticed it on
TV listening or watching the games. You can hear there's
been a couple of games where you can hear Seahawks
fans being very vocal during the game. McDonald talked a
little bit about it yesterday. What did he have to say,
just kind of giving the fans some flowers.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Well, I'm sure somebody in the organization asked him to
say it, because he was talking about how many Seahawks
fans that were on Broadway. And let me tell you,
I was up and down Broadway for two nights. Mike
McDonald was not on Broadway Saturday or Sunday nights. So
someone tipped them off to that, and there were there
were a ton of Seahawks fans everywhere we went. And
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then in the stadium. That stadium, the upper deck was
maybe half full. The Titans are one to ten. Yeah,
it was gonna be loud even if a few Seahawks
fans showed up, and a lot of them did. And
a lot of Seahawks fans live across the country in
the Central and Eastern Times zone. This is an easy
trip for that. I talked to a couple Seahork fans
from the Baltimore, Washington area, from New England, from Atlanta,
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that there was an easier trip for them. Then of
course come to Seattle, so that contributed all of it.
And then in the stadium is what has happened. Ashley,
You're right, you can hear the Seahawk fans, but just
under McDonald, Seattle's twelve and two on the road, So
twelve out of fourteen times the home team fans are
leaving early and are ticked off and aren't saying anything,
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and the only people left that are yelling are Seahawks fans,
which makes it easier for people to hear them on
television because they're the only ones making noise. With six
minutes left in that game, I put a video on
Twitter about it. The exits were full, everyone left was
still six minutes left. Even though the Titans ended up
making it look good at the m with a cosmetic touchdown,
the only people left in the stands were Seayork fans.
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So then the fans can preen to the visitors and
everything else and it becomes a Seahawks show on the road.
McDonald yesterday said that in all his coaching career, which
is about twelve years now, a couple in college at
Georgia and ten with the Baltimore Ravens and now two
with the Seahorks. He's never seen a road crowd of
a visiting team like he did in Nashville. And he
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did say that the players love that and they feed
off of that. And when you win as often as
they've been winning on the road, sometimes this can be
the result. Yeah, those planes are packed with Seahawk fans,
and it is a different experience for these players that
go on the road be as successful as they are
and have so many fans cheering for him.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Greg the last year, I mean justin Jefferson went off
in the game against against Seattle. I remember that, and
yet that was when he had Sam Darnold throwing the
ball to him, and now not only does he not
have his first or second string quarterbacks going to be
that Max Brosner, I mean, is this situation where when
it comes to the past game you just flat out
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do you just say he's not getting anything? I mean,
we are going to shut him down and then you
see if they can possibly run the ball against that,
which doesn't seem likely. Or is this one where because
they're going to be having Max Brosmer back there. You're
kind of not all that worried about the passing game period.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Well, you're right. Jefferson was ten for one hundred and
forty four and two touchdowns with Donald. Donald targets him
thirteen times in that game. He only threw thirty five
times and thirteen of them were to Jefferson. The game
plan will be what it always is against the quarterback
that is starting out for the first time, a young
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rookie quarterback, stop the run first. Kevin O'Connell, of course,
will hope that he can run the ball so that
Brosmer doesn't have to try to win the game on
the road by himself in longyard situations. So Seattle's game
plan will start with Minnesota's run game, and I would
expect O'Connell will lean heavily on it. And if the
Seahawks can get long third downs, which they did not
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get in Tennessee, which I mentioned yesterday. Much of the
reason that the Titans made that game a little bit
interesting at the end and all the third and fourth
down versions they had it is because they were short
third and fourth downs. The reason they went for so
many fourth downs other than they were losing was because
it was fourth and one or two or three or
four instead of fourth and fifteen that they were converting.
And that's because primarily camp Ward and It's playmaking got
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them in short yardage situation. So Seattle's game plans stop
the run, make the Vikings one dimensional, and with an
unrafted rookie quarterback, if they have third and ten the
Vikings do all game long, the Seahawks will win. That's
job one. Stop the early down runs and then let
your defense dictate the rest of the game. Honestly, it's
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on paper and on with your eyes. This should be
less of a challenge for the defense than cam Ward
the Titans, where even though the Titans are one and ten,
because of the quarterback situation in the league, the quarterback
is it and if you have an undrafted third string
rookie quarterback, you should lose that game home and away
one hundred percent of the time in this league, turnovers
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are always a mitigating actor. Yes, keep the hold of
the ball, but the Seahawks have no excuse. If Brozmer
ends up playing, and it looks like he will, the
Seaks would have no excuse to lose this game to
a third string rookie quarterback with the defense Seattle. That's
regardless of what Seattle's offense does.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
All right, all right, gee, well I appreciate it. Uh,
and you go ahead and have fun. I don't know
for sure if you should go to like a jiu
jitsu class or anything tonight. If your wife invites you,
there might be payback in store.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Yeah, she's probably gonna have like an MMA class up for.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Just have some black belt guy or some UFC fighter
like you're you're rolling with him, Greg, have fun.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Yeah, that's probably next. Yeah, we'll have me. We'll go
skiing and rocks into a bunch of trees. She ows
one for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
All right, Well take care of that lady, and happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
We'll talk to you tomorrow. We'll do that roundtable tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Yes, sir, I have a good Tuesday. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Alright, you too.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
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Speaker 4 (20:21):
Talking about a lot of husky or a lot of
Seahawk talk, obviously, but this is the one time where
I get to go one on one against Ashley. When
it comes to this Huskies game, where the Ducks are
coming into town and it's a it's a big one.
We've we've discussed everything from basically how we're feeling to
whether or not your child is going to pick on
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my child at the tailgate party. So we'll see how
that whole thing pans out. But I am curious, just
confidence wise, where you're at when you start looking at
how the Huskies have played last couple of weeks. I mean,
after that Wisconsin loss, which was not good. Obviously, they
have been rolling for the most part as of late.
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I mean against Purdue that's perdue, but still UCLA had
what you thought could be right, They've had kind of
a jackal and hide season. After new Heizel, the young
new Heiseel took over. They won a few games and
then kind of reverted back to not playing very well,
but the Huskies ended up kind of shutting them down
and bowing them out last week.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
You feeling good going into this game.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
I mean I'm feeling as good as I can be.
Considering that the Husky team has struggled at times. I
mean they lost to Ohio State, they lost to Wisconsin,
which they shouldn't have, and I just think some of
the there's some questions. Obviously, we've got injuries as well,
so that does make you nervous. Whereas if you had
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Denzel Boston and you had a fully healthy Jonah Coleman,
probably feeling a lot better going into it.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, well, both teams are really dinged up.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
That's one thing that it hurts my confidence level a
little bit is is that the Ducks have full gamut
of running backs that they can use, but they are
I mean they're using like their fourth and fifth and sixth.
I mean they only have like three receivers that are
healthy at this point. Their top three or four guys
have been out for a while, and they've lost a
couple offensive linemen, which hurts the running game. So there's
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reasons to not be optimistic, I think, on both sides.
But we shall see how whole thing pans out. We'll
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Speaker 4 (22:52):
I was all morning I was thinking about taking something
with this Oregon and Washington game, but I just talk
myself out of it in our two minutes of talking
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Speaker 5 (23:04):
The game.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
How I pick it is taking a team that I
think just as garbage and take the other team. Well,
this is one where again two garbage teams would have
worked out twice last week for me. The Miami Dolphins
are hosting the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Oh, that's probably be an ugly game.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
It's not gonna be pretty and I won't watch it,
but I think that the Miami Dolphins will cover the
five and a half points. So just just I mean,
I'm gonna go ahead and take the Miami Dolphins minus
five and a half at home against the Saints. And
I tell you what, you start looking into the Saints
season now, they beat the Panthers, hence part of the
reason why I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Know who the heck they are.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
They beat them just a couple of weeks ago, and
they beat the Giants. Other than that, they've lost every game,
and most of them by double digits or more. They
haven't covered a spread other than the two games that
they won in which the Giants wasn't an upset but
the Panthers was. And so I mean, not only do
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Speaker 7 (25:26):
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Speaker 2 (25:29):
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Speaker 4 (25:31):
I mean, everybody deserves a screech. Here and there, but
during Thanksgiving me thankful you get two of them.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
That's mostly for Keith.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
On the other side of this, we're gonna break down
JSN and whether or not we should start the countdown
in the chase to chase down Mega Tron. Stick around
here at Sports Radio ninety three point greet KJRFM. Oh,
is that who that is?
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Not?
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Huey Lewis you know?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Really?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I just added his newest album to my Apple plaything. Yeah,
I and Jill still didn't know that was him. I'm
horrible at that game, but it is what it is. Well,
we got a superstar on her hands when it comes
to JSN and obviously breaking the single season Seahawks record,
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that's one thing that is impressive in and of itself.
And yet now I'm wondering if we start the conversation
or if it's too early to start the conversation of
how far away he is from tracking down the all
time record that is held by Megatron. Calvin Johnson back
in twenty twelve had nineteen hundred and sixty four yards.
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Right now, JSN sitting at thirteen thirteen, So on three
hundred and thirteen yards. That is a difference of six
hundred and fifty one yards based on my Hermiston High
School math and Lewis Clark State math as well, really
really good math programs at both of those places.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I can tell you one.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Hundred and eight and a half yards per game he
would need to average over the final six to tie
that basically, So that and a couple of inches here
and there, and he would be the all time leader
or best single season. Now that they've got second on
the list is Cooper Cup. He finished less than twenty
yards shy of breaking that record back in twenty twenty one,
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and so he's got a guy right there in the clubhouse,
So that knows exactly how hard it is to have
a season that he's on pace for having right now.
Do you feel like it's premature to start the countdown of,
you know, chipping away at that six hundred and fifty
one yards that JSN has to get to be the
all time best single season receiver yardage wise.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
I was looking up his stats earlier and it is
I think he's averaging what one hundred and eighteen yards
per game something like that. Yeah, that's six games left. Yeah, yeah, No,
I don't think that's too early.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
It's about the perfect time.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
About the perfect time.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
So okay, well, I mean I think it's it's a
you know that he's thinking about it. I think if
I remember correctly this weekend when he broke the single
season record, he had caught a ball and then kept
that ball like he's paying attention. I think guys pay
attention to that a lot. I think they understand where
they're at as far as the you know rule the
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record books go, and and rightfully so, you know, you
you have a nice, big house with multiple mantles, you
might as well put trophies on him if you're earning them.
And and I think that he's cognizant of it. At
the same time, it's in this game, especially for a
guy that is getting as many catches as he is,
it's I mean, it's one of those Staying healthy, I
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think is really the only thing. And obviously him healthy,
Sam Darnold healthy, I don't know for sure if you're
feeling real good. If if well, obviously if he was
to go down, that would go, that would and we're not.
I think that he's very good. He obviously does more
after the catch than Tyler Lockett did, but Tyler Lockett
was very available over the course of his career because
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he understood I'm not a big dude. Now, Jsn's built
better or different than Tyler Lockett. He can take a
hit here and there. And yet the fact that there's
it seems like half of the passing game every single
week runs through JSN.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
You've got to be smart.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
You got to you know, make sure that you don't
get twisted up on when you could have just you know,
went down when the first guy.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Has got you wrapped up.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
And so I'm not thinking it's too soon to talk
about it. If anything, it's I think it's right about
the perfect time to start having the discussion. I mean,
I think the more interesting conversation is the fact that
there's most people are giving him the flowers that he deserves, right.
I mean, we're over halfway through the season, but not
far beyond the midway point, and so there's still a
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long ways to go, and yet it feels like, you know,
there still is this is he the best in the
game right now? And I think that you do have
to put up more than one and a half good
years before you can knock a guy like Jamar Chase
or Justin Jefferson, if those are the two primo guys.
But the George Pickett I heard, I think it was
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dan Or Lofsky was talking about that he should be
in the conversation, and people were up in arms, Seattle fans,
what are you talking about? He's not even the best
this season. And it's like he wasn't saying he is
the best in the game. He was saying he's playing
like he belongs in the conversation, just like we're saying
JSN belongs in that conversation right now.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And so I think it's.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Interesting how a lot of times Seahawk fans are just
Seattle fans feel slighted. There's some slights that happen because
we are all the way on the left coast, and
there's a lot of people that are, you know, east
of the Mississippi that don't watch games that are played
as late as they are here because of the time difference.
And yet I think within the NFL community, anybody that
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follows the sport closely from coast to coast, I think
they're recognizing exactly what JSN is bringing to the table
right now, and that is something that's on pace to
be historic.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
Well, and here's the thing too, is first of all,
they're always going to try to find to have a
or try to find a way to have a conversation
involving the Dallas Cowboys, the Dallas Cowboys, especially on ESPN,
they're going to bring them up as many times as
they can. But also you want to actually have a
conversation about the top five wide receivers in the NFL. Yes,
right now, JSN seems to have put himself above everybody else,
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but you've got George Pickens, Pukinakua, Aman Ross, Saint Brown,
and Jamar Chase right below him. And so you've got
six weeks left of the season. These conversations have to
be had. They've got to come up with things to
talk about, and they're always gonna, as I said, try
to find a way to work the Cowboys in. George
Pickens is having a good season, so he shouldn't be
ignored and saying that he should be or has put
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himself into the conversation for one of the best wide
receivers in the NFL. That doesn't mean that Jackson Smith
and Jigba is not also one of the best wide
receivers in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
It doesn't.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
It doesn't take anything away from Jackson Smith and Jigball. Honestly,
if you're talking about how great George Pickens looks right
now and Jackson Smith and Jigba's having a better season
than him, then it just makes jack Jackson Smith and
Jigba even better.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Right.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
So, And I look, I.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
Did the math, not Hermiston math, oh calculator phone math,
and seven hundred and sixteen yards is how many he
would get if he kept his average over the next
six games.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
And he wouldn't need what six hundred and forty you said.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Shakes hundred and fifty one, six hundred and fifty one.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
So he's had three games this season where he's had
under one hundred receiving yards. Two of them are against
Arizona and one was ninety six yards against the Saints.
Everything else has been over one hundred yards.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Well, and I think if you look, you know, dive
into the numbers. I don't think that the numbers always
tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Because
of the fact that you just said a couple of
his games where he didn't eclipse the hundred yard mark
was against Arizona. If you're blowing somebody out, then you're
not passing the ball. I mean for multiple reasons. One,
you're there's a respect factor typically, and then two, why
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would you be you know, running Jackson Smith and Jigba
across the middle when you're up three scores against the
division rival just so that somebody can try to take
a cheap shot or try to lay him out. That's
that wouldn't be smart at all. I am I think Viking.
I think there could be a good game against the Vikings.
I think the Falcons have a porous secondary. The Colts
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are like I think they might be trending down and
so you might catch them in a few weeks where
they're susceptible to that. They kind of they're more of
an offensive team. Yeah, they got a tough schedule. They're
gonna go out there and be getting beat around week
in and week out. They're not gonna have a bunch
the Rams. He goes off against the Rams, even as
good as their defense is, he tends to go off
against them, and I think that it's gonna come down
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to the wire. Obviously, all things considered, you have to
just stay healthy and go out there and keep playing
the way that you are, and Sam Darnold needs to
do the same. But I'm feeling pretty confident that he's
going to be. We're gonna be having this conversation for
the next month and a half, and I hope that
he does it because he just seems like the type
of guy that is easy to cheer for.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Yeah. Absolutely, I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
All Right, Well, we'll see that how that the chase
of Megatron continues. On the other side of this break though,
we're going to get to finally talk to our one
of our favorite guests, the the ref that takes us
inside of how this whole thing works, because there's frustration
just about every single week, and we'll get to the
bottom of some of these things with Gene Sterotor. Stick
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A six to nothing lead.
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bad Boy. We do have some headlines, obviously, Seattle Seahawks
moving on from the Tennessee Titans win and the Vikings
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come into town. That will be interesting. This is where
Sam Donald was last year. This is they came in
last year and beat the Seahawks with Sam Donald. So
the one nice thing is, well, I shouldn't say nice thing.
One thing that's in the favor of the Seahawks is
you don't know for sure who's going to be playing
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quarterback for the team you're going against. I think Max
what's his name Brosnan had pulled up here somewhere. We'll
ask Greg about it. They have a quarterback that played
at New Hampshire and then transferred to Minnesota is probably
going to be the quarterback because JJ McCarthy is in
concussion protocol. Another quarterback news, Zach Taylor confirms Joe Burrow
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is going to play on Thanksgiving Night. That is going
to be interesting to see if he can turn a
season that has been horrible around or if he can
just stay healthy for that matter. Baker Mayfield also got
hurt in the Monday Night Football or Sunday Night Football
game Sunday Night football game that he had a low
grade shoulder spraying. Word is they don't know for sure
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if he's in to play, but it sounds like he's
going to try to play through it.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Obviously.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Coming up this weekend is the Huskies hosting the Ducks.
That is going to be a good one. Ashley and
I are going to continue to talk trash to one another.
She likes playing that darn song all the time, and
I think that maybe her daughter's going to try to
beat my sun up when we tailgate together. So that'll
be interesting. We'll find out how that whole thing pans out.
But as of right now, it is time that we
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get our Seahawks insider Greg Bell on the horn.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
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Speaker 4 (04:34):
Oh those celebratory bells right there, those are always nice.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Greg. Are you ready for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Are you preparing for Christmas already? Which boat are you in?
Do you prematurely celebrate Christmas or not?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Had a boy? Thank you?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yeah? Wait, Thanksgiving gets its beautiful place. It's a good
holiday for us. My daughter's home from Connecticut for college,
and yeah, Thanksgivings a big deal for us.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
How about your boy? Is he going to be around
or no?
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Oh yeah, he's here too, okay before of us. It's
like old times again.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
So yeah, we're I was talking to about. We went
to a boxing class last night. I haven't done that
since my yearly year West Point. I've had to take boxing.
It was fun and we didn't just do the aerobic boxing.
We were actually with gloves and took me a little bit
of shadow sparring.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Okay, so there was no actual punch, no sparring. Well,
punch each other, did you that?
Speaker 7 (05:31):
Punches each other?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Stay carrying punches? But my wife thought I got in
a little too many extra on her.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Oh so yeah, you've got some making up to do.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
For Thanksgiving. It sounds like, yeah, yeah, I'm not going
to mess with my wife any longer.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I'm smarter than that. Yeah, my wife could.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Kick my just drop my gloves like I'm done, I quit.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I quit.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
A good call, by the way, happy wife, happy life.
Definitely don't punch your wife too terrible times, at least
if it's not in fun.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
Yeah, if you're not boxing, never do it.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, never do.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
It that way.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Obviously. I don't think we have to. I don't think
we have to tell Greg that. Well gee, I mean
we're kind of moving on right. Turkey Day is making
the week a little bit shorter. Football will be here
before you know it. I mean, we actually never talked
about the fact that you got today and tomorrow and
then you got five basically five straight days of football
if you include Saturday, which is a big day for
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college football this week with all the rivalry games.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But Seahawks are moving on right. They end up pulling out.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
A w got a little sloppy, got a little bit
closer than anybody thought it should be. But now it's
time to move towards the vikings. I mean, I guess
one storyline, Sam Donald, that's where he played last year.
He brought this same team in saans him obviously and
obviously a few other changes, and beat the Seahawks here
last season. You think Sam Donald's thinking anything about that
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or is there any information that he's being able to
give to where it gives even more of an advantage
to the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah, I do think this is not an ordinary game
for him, and there's a tangible advantage that he knows
the style and the play calling of Kevin O'Connell. And
he won't ever admit to this this week, and he'll
say it's another game, But this is the team Minnesota
that resurrected his career, and it was an accidental resurrection
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because JJ McCarthy was supposed to be the starter as
the rookie tenth overall pick last year, blows out his
knee in the summer and Sam Donald's hand at the job.
A lot of fans might know during the season when
they needed veteran depth, this Vikings actually had Sam Donalds
starting Daniel Jones as the back up, and they let
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both of them go, and now McCarthy not only is concussed,
he's struggled up to that point. The Vikings are four
and seven. You mentioned the undrafted rookie quarterback from New
Hampshire Minnesota, Brosmer, who's in line to start because Carson
Wentz is out with a shoulder injury. You have as
many injuries and in effect in this a quarterback, you're
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going to be four and seven, like the playoff team
Minnesota's got. They went from fourteen and three with Sam
Donald last year to four and seven without them this year.
There are a lot of people in Minnesota and maybe
someone that Viking's building who will regret the decisions they've
made at quarterback so far. And we'll see what McCarthy become.
He's only ten games in his NFL career. But to
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say the least, this is setting up optimally for the Seahawks,
and so I think we, oh.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
And is it setting up optimally for their defense because obviously,
you know, we talked about how they were slopping in
the second half last weekend, and you attributed quite a
bit of that to injuries, which is, you know, obviously
a big issue. So do we have any updates. I'm
hearing that maybe Ernest Jones and Tyreese Night are playing.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
At night more than Jones looks like he's untracked by
Night is emerging from the concussion proto called Mike McDonald
told us yesterday, and it looks like he'll practice on Wednesday.
The inside weekside linebacker Ernest Jones is quote itching to play,
McDonald said, but that they're going to see on beginning
Wednesday if he can get on the field. They usually
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give him rest days on Wednesday, veteran rest days, so
he may not get on the field till Thursday, which
will be more of an indication of whether he can play.
In my sense, Ashley is that they're both going to
play okay and that will help. And Julian Love is
eligible to come back off injured reserve to return to
practice this week. So is Eric Salbert a veteran tight
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end as a matter of fact, But McDonald said he's
not yet ready to declare that Love's going to do that.
They're trying to be conservative with him so that he
can come back and stay back for the rest of
the season. But they could have three starters back on
defense and the defense that needs it right now.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Jee there's not a lot of coaches in the league, obviously.
Mike McDonald's a year and a half into is head
coaching tenure. But so there's not a lot of resume
on there, and yet this is one guy who at
this point has the upper hand. Want to know, in
Kevin O'Connell, do you recall anything from last year that
was troublesome because we give a lot of credit Kevin
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o'donald gets a lot of credit for play calling in
the offensive mind. And so we just watched a game
a couple of weeks ago where it was McVeigh his
offensive mind against you know, McDonald's defensive mind, and and
it turned out to be quite the battle and most
certainly one that I think, regardless of the outcome of
the game, people might think Mike McDonald won that that.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Part of the battle.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
This is one where that it was not the case
last year the Minnesota Vikings beat the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
And so, how are you feeling or how.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Should people be feeling about the Kevin O'Connell McDonald matchup?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Well, Bucky, to me, the biggest difference between the Seahawks
defense right now and last year when the Vikings came
in here is pass rush, and they weren't really effective
in affecting Donald enough. He threw three touchdowns, no interceptions
in almost three hundred yards that game in Seattle last year.
About this time this year, he's been able to McDonald's
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been able to get pressure with the front four. Now
against Tennessee, he blitzed Devin Witherspoon in particular, more than
he's blitzed Witherspoon I've noticed in an entire game, Witherspoon
got home a couple times. I was joking with Witherspoon
after the game in Nashville Sunday that he should have
gotten some of the sack that Derek Hall got because
Witherspoon's blitz sent cam Ward right in to Derek Hall
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for that sack. Those Halls for a sack of the season. Haul,
by the way, told me that he'd been waiting forever
for that, for like years since he last sat the sack.
But they they have options now in pressuring. They can
rely on their front four with Leonard Williams and Byron Murphy,
who picked up another sack. He told me that he's
passed his sack goal already for this season and he
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still had six games to play. To Marcus Lawrence, those
guys have really changed formed how McDonald can play defense
now he can be trickier with O'Connell than he was
last year. He was trickier with mcmcveigh a couple of
weeks ago than he was last year against the Rams.
If you can pressure with four and have seven back
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there to play all kinds of coverage as shell man
Man's own hybrids, cover four, cover six, two deep, single high,
it's just dealer's choice back there for the play caller
on defense. If your front four is getting home and
now you're gonna get a rookie quarterback, and undrafted rookie
quarterback who's never seen what McDonald's New Hampshire's the defensive
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New Hampshire phase for four of his five college season,
never ever did what McDonald's gonna throw at him on Sunday.
That's the decisive advantage for Seattle here, so O'Connell, it
could be Bill Wallash, it doesn't matter. The cards are
so in Seattle's favor here of an undrafted rookie quarterback
against a team that's getting pressure with four, that allows
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McDonald to play every thing Poe Prie on his defense.
Speaker 8 (13:02):
Greg It was noticeable in Nashville the Seahawks amount of
Seahawks fans that traveled, and I have noticed it on
TV listening or watching the games. You can hear there's
been a couple of games where you can hear Seahawks
fans being very vocal during the game. McDonald talked a
little bit about it yesterday. What did he have to say,
just kind of giving the fans some flowers.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Well, I'm sure somebody in the organization asked him to
say it, because he was talking about how many Seahawks
fans that were on Broadway. And let me tell you,
I was up and down Broadway for two nights. Mike
McDonald was not on Broadway Saturday or Sunday nights. So
someone tipped them off to that, and there were there
were a ton of Seahawks fans everywhere we went. And
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then in the stadium. That stadium, the upper deck was
maybe half full. The Titans are one to ten. Yeah,
it was gonna be loud even if a few Seahawks
fans showed up, and a lot of them did. And
a lot of Seahawks fans live across the country in
the Central and Eastern Times zone. This is an easy
trip for that. I talked to a couple Seahork fans
from the Baltimore, Washington area, from New England, from Atlanta,
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that there was an easier trip for them. Then of
course come to Seattle, so that contributed all of it.
And then in the stadium is what has happened. Ashley,
You're right, you can hear the Seahawk fans, but just
under McDonald, Seattle's twelve and two on the road, So
twelve out of fourteen times the home team fans are
leaving early and are ticked off and aren't saying anything,
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and the only people left that are yelling are Seahawks fans,
which makes it easier for people to hear them on
television because they're the only ones making noise. With six
minutes left in that game, I put a video on
Twitter about it. The exits were full, everyone left was
still six minutes left. Even though the Titans ended up
making it look good at the m with a cosmetic touchdown,
the only people left in the stands were Seayork fans.
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So then the fans can preen to the visitors and
everything else and it becomes a Seahawks show on the road.
McDonald yesterday said that in all his coaching career, which
is about twelve years now, a couple in college at
Georgia and ten with the Baltimore Ravens and now two
with the Seahorks. He's never seen a road crowd of
a visiting team like he did in Nashville. And he
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did say that the players love that and they feed
off of that. And when you win as often as
they've been winning on the road, sometimes this can be
the result. Yeah, those planes are packed with Seahawk fans,
and it is a different experience for these players that
go on the road be as successful as they are
and have so many fans cheering for him.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Greg the last year, I mean justin Jefferson went off
in the game against against Seattle. I remember that, and
yet that was when he had Sam Darnold throwing the
ball to him, and now not only does he not
have his first or second string quarterbacks going to be
that Max Brosner, I mean, is this situation where when
it comes to the past game you just flat out
(15:52):
do you just say he's not getting anything? I mean,
we are going to shut him down and then you
see if they can possibly run the ball against that,
which doesn't seem likely. Or is this one where because
they're going to be having Max Brosmer back there. You're
kind of not all that worried about the passing game period.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Well, you're right. Jefferson was ten for one hundred and
forty four and two touchdowns with Donald. Donald targets him
thirteen times in that game. He only threw thirty five
times and thirteen of them were to Jefferson. The game
plan will be what it always is against the quarterback
that is starting out for the first time, a young
(16:31):
rookie quarterback, stop the run first. Kevin O'Connell, of course,
will hope that he can run the ball so that
Brosmer doesn't have to try to win the game on
the road by himself in longyard situations. So Seattle's game
plan will start with Minnesota's run game, and I would
expect O'Connell will lean heavily on it. And if the
Seahawks can get long third downs, which they did not
(16:51):
get in Tennessee, which I mentioned yesterday. Much of the
reason that the Titans made that game a little bit
interesting at the end and all the third and fourth
down versions they had it is because they were short
third and fourth downs. The reason they went for so
many fourth downs other than they were losing was because
it was fourth and one or two or three or
four instead of fourth and fifteen that they were converting.
And that's because primarily camp Ward and It's playmaking got
(17:16):
them in short yardage situation. So Seattle's game plans stop
the run, make the Vikings one dimensional, and with an
unrafted rookie quarterback, if they have third and ten the
Vikings do all game long, the Seahawks will win. That's
job one. Stop the early down runs and then let
your defense dictate the rest of the game. Honestly, it's
(17:37):
on paper and on with your eyes. This should be
less of a challenge for the defense than cam Ward
the Titans, where even though the Titans are one and ten,
because of the quarterback situation in the league, the quarterback
is it and if you have an undrafted third string
rookie quarterback, you should lose that game home and away
one hundred percent of the time in this league, turnovers
(17:59):
are always a mitigating actor. Yes, keep the hold of
the ball, but the Seahawks have no excuse. If Brozmer
ends up playing, and it looks like he will, the
Seaks would have no excuse to lose this game to
a third string rookie quarterback with the defense Seattle. That's
regardless of what Seattle's offense does.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
All right, all right, gee, well I appreciate it. Uh,
and you go ahead and have fun. I don't know
for sure if you should go to like a jiu
jitsu class or anything tonight. If your wife invites you,
there might be payback in store.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Yeah, she's probably gonna have like an MMA class up for.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Just have some black belt guy or some UFC fighter
like you're you're rolling with him, Greg, have fun.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Yeah, that's probably next. Yeah, we'll have me. We'll go
skiing and rocks into a bunch of trees. She ows
one for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
All right, Well take care of that lady, and happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
We'll talk to you tomorrow. We'll do that roundtable tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Yes, sir, I have a good Tuesday. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Alright, you too.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
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welcome back to the show. We We've been.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Talking about a lot of husky or a lot of
Seahawk talk, obviously, but this is the one time where
I get to go one on one against Ashley. When
it comes to this Huskies game, where the Ducks are
coming into town and it's a it's a big one.
We've we've discussed everything from basically how we're feeling to
whether or not your child is going to pick on
(20:43):
my child at the tailgate party. So we'll see how
that whole thing pans out. But I am curious, just
confidence wise, where you're at when you start looking at
how the Huskies have played last couple of weeks. I mean,
after that Wisconsin loss, which was not good. Obviously, they
have been rolling for the most part as of late.
(21:03):
I mean against Purdue that's perdue, but still UCLA had
what you thought could be right, They've had kind of
a jackal and hide season. After new Heizel, the young
new Heiseel took over. They won a few games and
then kind of reverted back to not playing very well,
but the Huskies ended up kind of shutting them down
and bowing them out last week.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
You feeling good going into this game.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
I mean I'm feeling as good as I can be.
Considering that the Husky team has struggled at times. I
mean they lost to Ohio State, they lost to Wisconsin,
which they shouldn't have, and I just think some of
the there's some questions. Obviously, we've got injuries as well,
so that does make you nervous. Whereas if you had
(21:46):
Denzel Boston and you had a fully healthy Jonah Coleman,
probably feeling a lot better going into it.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, well, both teams are really dinged up.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
That's one thing that it hurts my confidence level a
little bit is is that the Ducks have full gamut
of running backs that they can use, but they are
I mean they're using like their fourth and fifth and sixth.
I mean they only have like three receivers that are
healthy at this point. Their top three or four guys
have been out for a while, and they've lost a
couple offensive linemen, which hurts the running game. So there's
(22:17):
reasons to not be optimistic, I think, on both sides.
But we shall see how whole thing pans out. We'll
get into a little bit more of the tailgating thing
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Speaker 4 (22:52):
I was all morning I was thinking about taking something
with this Oregon and Washington game, but I just talk
myself out of it in our two minutes of talking
about it. So I'm gonna go back to the old trustee,
and I'm going to go back to.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
The game.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
How I pick it is taking a team that I
think just as garbage and take the other team. Well,
this is one where again two garbage teams would have
worked out twice last week for me. The Miami Dolphins
are hosting the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Oh, that's probably be an ugly game.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
It's not gonna be pretty and I won't watch it,
but I think that the Miami Dolphins will cover the
five and a half points. So just just I mean,
I'm gonna go ahead and take the Miami Dolphins minus
five and a half at home against the Saints. And
I tell you what, you start looking into the Saints
season now, they beat the Panthers, hence part of the
reason why I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Know who the heck they are.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
They beat them just a couple of weeks ago, and
they beat the Giants. Other than that, they've lost every game,
and most of them by double digits or more. They
haven't covered a spread other than the two games that
they won in which the Giants wasn't an upset but
the Panthers was. And so I mean, not only do
they lose, not only the bad they don't cover spread.
(24:02):
So I'm going to go ahead and take the Dolphins
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Speaker 7 (25:26):
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Speaker 4 (25:31):
I mean, everybody deserves a screech. Here and there, but
during Thanksgiving me thankful you get two of them.
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That's mostly for Keith.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
On the other side of this, we're gonna break down
JSN and whether or not we should start the countdown
in the chase to chase down Mega Tron. Stick around
here at Sports Radio ninety three point greet KJRFM. Oh,
is that who that is?
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Not?
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Huey Lewis you know?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Really?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I just added his newest album to my Apple plaything. Yeah,
I and Jill still didn't know that was him. I'm
horrible at that game, but it is what it is. Well,
we got a superstar on her hands when it comes
to JSN and obviously breaking the single season Seahawks record,
(26:15):
that's one thing that is impressive in and of itself.
And yet now I'm wondering if we start the conversation
or if it's too early to start the conversation of
how far away he is from tracking down the all
time record that is held by Megatron. Calvin Johnson back
in twenty twelve had nineteen hundred and sixty four yards.
(26:38):
Right now, JSN sitting at thirteen thirteen, So on three
hundred and thirteen yards. That is a difference of six
hundred and fifty one yards based on my Hermiston High
School math and Lewis Clark State math as well, really
really good math programs at both of those places.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I can tell you one.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Hundred and eight and a half yards per game he
would need to average over the final six to tie
that basically, So that and a couple of inches here
and there, and he would be the all time leader
or best single season. Now that they've got second on
the list is Cooper Cup. He finished less than twenty
yards shy of breaking that record back in twenty twenty one,
(27:18):
and so he's got a guy right there in the clubhouse,
So that knows exactly how hard it is to have
a season that he's on pace for having right now.
Do you feel like it's premature to start the countdown of,
you know, chipping away at that six hundred and fifty
one yards that JSN has to get to be the
all time best single season receiver yardage wise.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
I was looking up his stats earlier and it is
I think he's averaging what one hundred and eighteen yards
per game something like that. Yeah, that's six games left. Yeah, yeah, No,
I don't think that's too early.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
It's about the perfect time.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
About the perfect time.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
So okay, well, I mean I think it's it's a
you know that he's thinking about it. I think if
I remember correctly this weekend when he broke the single
season record, he had caught a ball and then kept
that ball like he's paying attention. I think guys pay
attention to that a lot. I think they understand where
they're at as far as the you know rule the
(28:13):
record books go, and and rightfully so, you know, you
you have a nice, big house with multiple mantles, you
might as well put trophies on him if you're earning them.
And and I think that he's cognizant of it. At
the same time, it's in this game, especially for a
guy that is getting as many catches as he is,
it's I mean, it's one of those Staying healthy, I
(28:33):
think is really the only thing. And obviously him healthy,
Sam Darnold healthy, I don't know for sure if you're
feeling real good. If if well, obviously if he was
to go down, that would go, that would and we're not.
I think that he's very good. He obviously does more
after the catch than Tyler Lockett did, but Tyler Lockett
was very available over the course of his career because
(28:54):
he understood I'm not a big dude. Now, Jsn's built
better or different than Tyler Lockett. He can take a
hit here and there. And yet the fact that there's
it seems like half of the passing game every single
week runs through JSN.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
You've got to be smart.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
You got to you know, make sure that you don't
get twisted up on when you could have just you know,
went down when the first guy.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Has got you wrapped up.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
And so I'm not thinking it's too soon to talk
about it. If anything, it's I think it's right about
the perfect time to start having the discussion. I mean,
I think the more interesting conversation is the fact that
there's most people are giving him the flowers that he deserves, right.
I mean, we're over halfway through the season, but not
far beyond the midway point, and so there's still a
(29:43):
long ways to go, and yet it feels like, you know,
there still is this is he the best in the
game right now? And I think that you do have
to put up more than one and a half good
years before you can knock a guy like Jamar Chase
or Justin Jefferson, if those are the two primo guys.
But the George Pickett I heard, I think it was
(30:05):
dan Or Lofsky was talking about that he should be
in the conversation, and people were up in arms, Seattle fans,
what are you talking about? He's not even the best
this season. And it's like he wasn't saying he is
the best in the game. He was saying he's playing
like he belongs in the conversation, just like we're saying
JSN belongs in that conversation right now.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And so I think it's.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Interesting how a lot of times Seahawk fans are just
Seattle fans feel slighted. There's some slights that happen because
we are all the way on the left coast, and
there's a lot of people that are, you know, east
of the Mississippi that don't watch games that are played
as late as they are here because of the time difference.
And yet I think within the NFL community, anybody that
(30:49):
follows the sport closely from coast to coast, I think
they're recognizing exactly what JSN is bringing to the table
right now, and that is something that's on pace to
be historic.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
Well, and here's the thing too, is first of all,
they're always going to try to find to have a
or try to find a way to have a conversation
involving the Dallas Cowboys, the Dallas Cowboys, especially on ESPN,
they're going to bring them up as many times as
they can. But also you want to actually have a
conversation about the top five wide receivers in the NFL. Yes,
right now, JSN seems to have put himself above everybody else,
(31:22):
but you've got George Pickens, Pukinakua, Aman Ross, Saint Brown,
and Jamar Chase right below him. And so you've got
six weeks left of the season. These conversations have to
be had. They've got to come up with things to
talk about, and they're always gonna, as I said, try
to find a way to work the Cowboys in. George
Pickens is having a good season, so he shouldn't be
ignored and saying that he should be or has put
(31:44):
himself into the conversation for one of the best wide
receivers in the NFL. That doesn't mean that Jackson Smith
and Jigba is not also one of the best wide
receivers in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
It doesn't.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
It doesn't take anything away from Jackson Smith and Jigball. Honestly,
if you're talking about how great George Pickens looks right
now and Jackson Smith and Jigba's having a better season
than him, then it just makes jack Jackson Smith and
Jigba even better.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Right.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
So, And I look, I.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
Did the math, not Hermiston math, oh calculator phone math,
and seven hundred and sixteen yards is how many he
would get if he kept his average over the next
six games.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
And he wouldn't need what six hundred and forty you said.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Shakes hundred and fifty one, six hundred and fifty one.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
So he's had three games this season where he's had
under one hundred receiving yards. Two of them are against
Arizona and one was ninety six yards against the Saints.
Everything else has been over one hundred yards.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Well, and I think if you look, you know, dive
into the numbers. I don't think that the numbers always
tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Because
of the fact that you just said a couple of
his games where he didn't eclipse the hundred yard mark
was against Arizona. If you're blowing somebody out, then you're
not passing the ball. I mean for multiple reasons. One,
you're there's a respect factor typically, and then two, why
(33:00):
would you be you know, running Jackson Smith and Jigba
across the middle when you're up three scores against the
division rival just so that somebody can try to take
a cheap shot or try to lay him out. That's
that wouldn't be smart at all. I am I think Viking.
I think there could be a good game against the Vikings.
I think the Falcons have a porous secondary. The Colts
(33:20):
are like I think they might be trending down and
so you might catch them in a few weeks where
they're susceptible to that. They kind of they're more of
an offensive team. Yeah, they got a tough schedule. They're
gonna go out there and be getting beat around week
in and week out. They're not gonna have a bunch
the Rams. He goes off against the Rams, even as
good as their defense is, he tends to go off
against them, and I think that it's gonna come down
(33:43):
to the wire. Obviously, all things considered, you have to
just stay healthy and go out there and keep playing
the way that you are, and Sam Darnold needs to
do the same. But I'm feeling pretty confident that he's
going to be. We're gonna be having this conversation for
the next month and a half, and I hope that
he does it because he just seems like the type
of guy that is easy to cheer for.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Yeah. Absolutely, I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
All Right, Well, we'll see that how that the chase
of Megatron continues. On the other side of this break though,
we're going to get to finally talk to our one
of our favorite guests, the the ref that takes us
inside of how this whole thing works, because there's frustration
just about every single week, and we'll get to the
bottom of some of these things with Gene Sterotor. Stick
(34:23):
around here at Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM.
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