December 5, 2025 • 37 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
Oh, good morning, welcome in. It is Chuck Powell and
Ashley Ryan with you chucking buck in the mornings. I know,
it doesn't even make sense. Your names are chucking Ashley,
don't even Ryan, Yeah exactly. I mean, what's the buck
part of all of this? Well, the buck part is
out for a couple of days. So it's Ashley, Ryan
and myself taking you through this rest of this week
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and so much football to discuss on today's program, but
we're going to wiggle in a few other things as
well during our four hours together as we get things
started here on this Friday. So Ashley, Ryan, Chuck Powell
with you. We do have some of our top guests
lined up, our top experts, our analysts are going to
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be joining us here coming up on the Friday radio program,
as you've come to expect. So we'll go through what's
on tap here in a little bit. Last night, Thursday
Night Football got week number fourteen of the National Football
League season underway, and we are coming down to it.
We are in the National Football League, and of course
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it's fun to have a horse not just in the race,
but running as fast as anybody else. The Seahawks sitting
there at nine and three on the season. I mean,
it's been such a good year for so many teams
that you could have a game like last night where
it kind of felt like a playoff game, the Detroit
Lions and the Dallas Cowboys. The Cowboys who had gotten
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off to the bad start but had rallied recently. Detroit,
who lost both its coordinators in the offseason, and people
were wondering if they could replicate well. I mean, they're
still a really good team, and yet they were going
into that game last night with a seven and five
record and looked like they were stumbling a little bit,
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especially since Dan Campbell, who I think likes, had taken
over the play calling duties. It's kind of been weird
what's happened with the Detroit Lions. But last night they
step up and they win it by a final score
of forty four to thirty. So it did sort of
feel playoff. Yet it was certainly a lot of fun
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watching the game last night, and it ended up being
just as high scoring as everybody was predicted. Yet weren't
many people taking the under, it felt like for this game,
and it ends up not only getting the over, but
it destroys the over last night. But I was thinking
about this on the drive in, as you know, people
are trying to like categorize this game and where to
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put these two teams right now in this playoff race.
And then I heard a conversation listing off all of
the teams that are pretty good this year that are
on the outside of the playoffs looking in. I mean,
this is a I don't think there's a great team
in the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, I see that.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I think there's some teams that could end up being
great or could are building. I think ours is one
of them, is building toward being described as great.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
But no one's separating themselves.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I just think, I mean, there are a lot of
bad teams. Those are pretty eb obvious to recognize. But
if you're walking down the street right now, surrounded by
National Football League teams and you're trying to find the
one that's great, I mean, they all are dressed alike,
they all drive the same cars. It feels like, you know,
they all have the same level of education. They all
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it's kind of hard to really find the team. Even
the teams that at times have looked great have not
been able to sustain greatness. Green Bay's been so hot
and cold, Detroit's been so hot and cold. You know,
Buffalo's been so hot and cold to this point. Baltimore
has been mostly cold this season. We're waiting for them
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to get hot. Yeah, they've won some games recently, but
they still haven't looked like the team that they were
supposed to be. And I'm wondering. I mean, people all
the time, Ashley say that they love the underdog story.
Yeah they don't. I mean, they like it in a movie,
they like Rudy, they like Hoosiers, But when it comes
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to actual sports watching, we tend to gravitate toward greatness.
We can complain all we want about who's great and
why they're great, and you're sick of them being great.
But the truth of the matter is most sports fans,
and I'm not saying all for you that are in
your car and you don't fall into this category. You're
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sure you don't fall into this category, and you're yelling
at me right now, but the numbers bear it out.
I mean, think about all of the people that can't
stand the Kansas City Chiefs, can't stand Taylor Swift because
of the Kansas City Chiefs or vice versa, complain constantly
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that the rat are trying to help the Kansas City
Chiefs win. And I think about all of the people
that aren't cowboys fans that hate the cowboys, are sick
of the cowboys, think the cowboy arrogance is just we've
had enough of it, and we've had enough of it
for thirty five years. That Jerry Jones somehow is still
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arrogant even though his team doesn't win games anymore. Those
are two teams that people hate right now in the
National Football Football fans not in Kansas City, not in Dallas,
or don't have some sort of fan tie to those
two teams, hate those two teams. Highest rated football game
ever on Thursday, not being a Super Bowl. Yeah, when
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the Chiefs faced the Cowboys. Those weren't even two teams
in the that were playoff teams. But we tend to
like the you know, the masses tend to like the
shiny object. Nobody gave a damn about the Tampa Bay Rays.
Great story a few years ago when they were making
World Series. Nobody watched the Rays play the Philadelphia Phillies.
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Nobody sat there like, man, what a great story this is.
You can't wait Lewis payroll, fan base doesn't even really
support them, and yet Marin management, Oh so clever, Oh
they play so hard. Oh I gotta watch this one. Nope,
nobody watched it. But put the Yankees and the Red
Sox on television every single night for a decade and
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watch people, even though they say they hate the two teams,
soak it up with a biscuit and so so here
we have a definitive. You know, twenty twenty five NFL
season where there's still certainly teams that people hate, but
we don't have greatness this year. I mean, the two
best teams right now in the National Football League record
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wise are Denver and New England. Anybody scared of those
two teams.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Probably not no.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Chance, Yeah, no chance that anybody's like, oh, but just
don't go whatever, however the bracket unfolds, Just to stay
away from New England as long as possible. No way. Yeah,
it's like, give me New England.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
They think everybody thinks it's not real and they're not legit.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Give me Denver. They just keep beating people by a
point because of some goofy turnover in the fourth quarter.
I mean, yeah, they're a good, solid team and they
play terrific defense, but give me Denver. And so it's
just it is the year. If you've been waiting for
the year where you're like, there is not a great
football team in the National Football League, this is it.
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And if you think your own team, the Seahawks are
on the verge of being great, oh yeah, go ahead,
think all you want about how capable they are. You
are well with and you're not just being fanboy or
fangirl thinking the Seahawks can win the whole thing. They
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could emerge from this group of good and be that
team that ends up being great. It's that kind of
year this year in the National Football League. I personally
love it. I'm fascinated by it. But I know that
I'm an outlier because I did watch the Race play
the Phillies in the World Series and enjoyed it and
enjoyed the story. But most people tend to say they
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like they want parody and they like underdog stories. But
the television viewing habits of America do not support that
and never have. And so I would just after that
long rant, ask you, are you enjoying this year of
no greatness in the National Football League?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I actually am.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
It's frustrating only in terms of like a betting standpoint,
when you're like, oh, trying to figure out who you
think is going to win and then one team just
decides to not show up, because there has been so
much of that up and down this year. But I
think it's been fun because you are getting there's nobody
running away with anything right now, so you're getting all
of these possibilities as the season comes to an end,
versus when you get to the the end of the
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season and you know, the Chiefs usually have clinched it
by now, and so they're just you know, usually there's
not all this excitement, not all of this possibility, and
right now there's still so much possibility.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I think it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I do too, and I hope people are enjoying it,
and I hope we get to the playoffs and nobody's
really established themselves as great, because you know, sometimes I
get to a Super Bowl and I'm a little disappointed
with the team that ends up because I'm like, oh,
you just got hot at the right time. Yeah, don't.
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I invested all this time in this entire season, and
what did I get. I got a team that I
don't even believe is all that good? Right playing in
the super Bowl. That's happened frequently throughout our lifetimes. So
I at least want to believe in the two teams
that got there, you know what I mean. And yet
they're going to be teams that don't even make the
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playoffs this year that I think have the potential to
be too emerge as great. The Kansas City Chiefs and
Houston Texans are playing Sunday night. Neither one of them
are playoff teams right now. That game we watched last night,
as highly entertaining as it was, neither team are playoff
teams right now. As good as what the Lions. We're
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convinced that the Lions are, and as much as everybody
does like the Lions, and if my team can't get there,
I hope the Lions or the Bills get their mentality
that we have as football fans right now. But neither
of the Lions, even with the win, have not catapulted
themselves into playoff position. So we've got one of those
years where every single team that makes the playoffs has
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a believable path to the super Bowl. And I think
it's great, I really do. The only thing about it
that is a little off putting is trying to figure
out why this year, more than any other year, teams
can look great for three or four weeks and then
look like crap for three or four weeks, and then
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you're wondering, well, when is it going to come back
around again? So it probably will be one of those
scenarios where, man, everybody that gets into the playoffs is
going to end up having a good record, with the
exception of maybe the AFC North champion, and then from
that point forward, it probably will be the team that
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gets the hottest. And yet I think or I know
it will be the team that gets the hottest. But
I do believe that every single team that is going
to qualify for the playoffs, maybe the first time ever
could write al you could write a believable script that
they're going to win at all and that includes the
team we root for here in the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, And that's the exciting part of it is that
is especially as a Seahawks fan. I mean, would it
be nice if we were just running away with a
division and there was no stress? Sure that, you know,
it's nice to, especially as a Seattle fan, to have
a moment of no stress.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
But we don't very often get that.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
And if I was given the chance between no stress
or down to the wire, let's see who makes it
in Let's see who wins the NFC West, I mean,
I want the excitement of down to the wire to
see what happens.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I would argue that the three least believable teams that
I could see putting the crown on at the end
of the year are the three teams with the best
records in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I think that's probably true. I think a lot of
people would agree with you.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
New England, Denver and Chicago. Yeah, I mean I don't
see them as Super Bowl champion. Certainly as playoff teams
and all the credit in the world what Sean Payton's
done in Denver and Mike Rabel's done in his first
year with the New England Patriots, and what the Bears
are doing under Ben Johnson, but I don't buy any
of those three teams as super Bowl. That team I
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watched last night beat the Cowboys, I think is better
than all three of those teams. Yeah, and yet they're
not even in the playoffs right now.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So it's just it's one of those years. I mean,
we always talk about parody and whether or not we
truly do want it.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I do.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I do like it. I think it's very fascinating. Sure,
there's also it's also very fascinating to have the Michael
Jordan Bulls and that team that you know has clearly
established not just greatness but dynastic greatness, and having them
circled as can anyone beat the Bulls this year. That's
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awesome too, that's a great story too. But I don't know.
I mean, as often as we talk about parody in
our sports, I'm not sure I've ever seen it play
out as succinctly as it is this year in the
National Football League. There are too many good teams because
not all of them can make the playoffs. There are
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more good teams than playoff spots this year, and there's
not a single great one. Right there are teams capable
of greatness, and I think we have one.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Of those, but no one's shown it yet.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
But no one, I don't think anybody. I mean maybe
the Rams. I mean they've had a pretty dominant but
I thought we outplayed them even though they beat us.
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah, it's It's interesting because it's certainly not the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
They look like crap all year long, and aft they're
eight and four.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah, and so yeah, you look at the two Super
Bowl teams from last year, the Eagles and the Chiefs,
and I think, like god it, I hope we don't
get a matchup of that. That would be terrible in
the Super Bowl if they somehow both made it. The
Chiefs are looking like they're not even gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You's look like they're not going to make the playoffs.
And I'm telling you right now, that Dallas team that
lost last night, as much as people hate Dallas, they're
better than the Eagles right now. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Well, yeah, they just beat them. Yeah, they just beat them.
I was gonna say, yeah, but so they're better.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Than the Philadelpa Eagles right now, even though they're definding.
Now that again the hot and cold of this year. Yeah,
the Eagles certainly have everything it takes to get their
crap back together.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, they are not figuring out how to do it though.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
But they have.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
This is twelve games. There were twelve games into this season.
I know they've won eight of them, but they have
not looked like the same team in any of the
twelve games they've played this year. They have not looked
like the team that we watched in the second half
and into the playoffs last year.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah. No, and I agree.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
And it's it is interesting because when we were talking,
when you were talking about the parody, and you know,
having these teams in the Super Bowl and everybody really
is going to tune in to see the big teams,
even with the dynasties, right, Yeah, I was sick of
the Patriots. I'm sick of the Chiefs, just of winning
all the time. Right, So you're tuning in now to see, well, yeah,
can that team knock them out? Can they stop them
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from three peating? And that's where the excitement still comes in,
as long as it's not the same two teams in
the Super Bowl every year.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Well, we tend to watch the Super Bowl no matter what.
Ye unlike the World Series, but certainly there are the
matchups that you feel are epic, that are historic. Yes,
And I don't think there's I mean, there are ways
to get there. I think Buffalo Detroit is a historic
Super Bowl matchup. I don't think anybody is not watching
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that game. But they've got to get there first, yeah,
I mean, and the way Buffaloes look like crap at
times this year too.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Well, and there's just the additions that they're making too.
And then now, yeah, they added Darius Lay, who now
is like I might retire, actually thinks it's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I mean, I think it's completely fascinating. I love that
we're going into Week fourteen and there's one game separating
the Texans, Colts, and Jaguars right now. Yeah, I love
that we're in Week fourteen and the Ravens and the
Steelers are are are not running away with a division
in which the Cincinnati Bengals have been outscored by ninety
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four points this year and have played without their best
player all season long.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I mean, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And there are only two games. The Ravens and the
Steelers are only two games up on that.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah, the Bengals should have should have had no chance
with Joe Burrow coming back to even consider making the playoffs,
and they do have a legitimate shot to try to
figure it out.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I love that the Carolina Panthers are seven and six.
I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I love that they don't know how they're and they're.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Getting better every single week. So I mean, it's, uh,
it's it's been a fun season. It's been a wacky season.
I don't think we've ever seen a season quite like it.
And I and and obviously the path that we're on,
I mean normally we get to the postseason and you're like,
oh gosh, they're seven and ten, why are they in
the playoffs? This year, there's going to be a team
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that's going to be like eleven and five, or see
me eleven and six that might not make the playoffs.
That's the kind of year that it has been. All Right,
let's find out what's on tap for the rest of
the show.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
What's on TEP?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
What's untep? All Right, Seahawks and Atlanta Sunday at ten o'clock.
It is a football Friday. We will have Greg Bell.
It's kind of our mir plaw of of of football.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
What's that word mean?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's that rue that almost all Cajun dishes start with.
All Right, you know, it's like, yeah, so our football Friday.
The base, the bass flavors are all here. The ingredients
are Greg Bell at seven oh five, Hugh Millin at nine,
and Mike Holmgren at nine thirty today, and we'll also
hear from Rick Neweissel today at some point as well.
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I'll explain that in a moment. The Allions did defeat
the Cowboys to get the week started forty four to
thirty last night. But Week fourteen, as I think I
have illustrated, fascinating Indianapolis at Jacksonville. They're tied to top
the AFC South. They play the early game Chicago and
Green Bay separated by a half game in the NFC North,
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they play the best afternoon game on Sunday. And then
you've got the night game Houston at Kansas City. And
believe it or not, both of those teams are on
the outside looking in at the playoffs at this point,
so they might both be and must win mode already.
So that's a pretty good Sunday night tilt. And then
of course you've got the AFC North Division. Pittsburgh at
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Baltimore is taking place this Sunday. Cincinnati will be at Buffalo,
and I know Buffalo's not in that vision, but obviously
Cincinnati is, and so that's a fascinating Joe Burrow versus
Josh Allen matchup. So this is one of the better,
if not one of the best weeks in the National
Football League on paper, that we have seen this year.
College football great weekend obviously, because it's conference championship weekend
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and the conference championships will actually start to be determined tonight.
You'll have the lesser programs going for their conference championships tonight,
Troy versus James Madison at four o'clock tonight, North Texas
will take on Tulane at five o'clock. Very interesting part
of this evening is that I have been misrepresenting a
(20:42):
little bit how these rules work, and it's hard to
keep track of all of them. I have told you
repeatedly there's a chance the ACC champion might not be
in the tournament. That's true, there is a chance. But
here's what I misrepresented. Five conference champions have to be represented.
So that means two of the teams that are playing
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tonight could get in above Duke. Oh wow, Okay, So
North Texas Tulane winner could be above them, and if
James Madison wins, they could be above them. They won't
be above Virginia, but they will be above Duke. So
we could have two of the group of five. In
a year in which there are about twenty deserving teams
to make the tournament, we could have two small programs
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getting in and mucking things up for everybody.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
We love that.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Saturday BYU at Texas Tech that's at
nine am. Georgia and Alabama's at one, Indiana and Ohio
State is at five, and Virginia at Duke also at
five o'clock. Selections Sunday will announce it's this Sunday. The
twelve teams in this year's tournament College basketball ubs at
USC tomorrow at three o'clock. The Kraken just got dominated
(21:53):
last night by the Edmonton Oilers nine to four, and
the Winter meetings will start to Sunday. We will all
also talk about this at some point today as well,
but coming up next. Rick new isil earlier this week,
in case you missed it, talked about the upcoming selection
Sunday some of the problems he has with it. We'll
get into that next. Sports Radio ninety three point three
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kJ R F M D.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
I like the addition, Brenton, only our cameras work.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, you got what I was putting down there. I
sure it did a little Friday dance party between Ashley
Ryan and myself.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Ju't worry five Iron, there will be no slow dances
on this dance party.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
He'd be like, actually, if you do it, I don't
have to. That'd be great.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
He doesn't really strike me as a slow dance I
want to dance kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Now, when we got married, he's like, we have to
do a dance. I was like, yes, we have to
do a dance.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Something tells me in your time and your wonderful marital
bliss of how many years? Thirteen years? Never once his
five iron in the middle of the evening while you're
watching the game, put down his laptop and said, you
want to go dancing?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
No, we've been at least two where they're dancing. He's like,
and people are like, come on, let's go dance.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
He's like, I don't dance.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
He has to be quite intoxicated to dance, and then
you can't get him off the dance floor.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
And you also don't want him on the dance floor.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
So he will go on if he's had enough beverages, okay, because.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
There are a lot of people that won't go on
at all, like it's the scariest thing for them in
the world.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
He's fine if he's had plenty of liquid courage.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yes, okay, all right, I like that. I like that.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
All right, yeah, I like it because you haven't seen
it yet.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
But even if he's terrible, I just like people, you know,
as the song suggests, I hope you dance. Yes, there
you go. So I'm glad that he has at least danced,
even if he had to be chased off the dance.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
He has at least danced.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
That's good. That's good, all right. Rick Neuheisel joins us
every Tuesday at nine o'clock and often, as you know,
if you listen to this show regularly on Fridays, we
replace some of it for you on a football Friday,
just in case you missed it. Well, we talked about
the games that are coming up in conference championship week,
(24:19):
but I Ashley and I have chosen to replay for
you the portion about selection Sunday and how this tournament feeled,
all the drama that's going into this final week before
we know the twelve teams that are officially going to
get into the tournament. So we'll pick up the conversation there.
When I talked to coach, I started the conversation just
(24:41):
by talking about how exciting Saturday was. All of the
college football action with all of the different playoff implications.
Actually for me was more entertaining. Sunday was like a
disappointment when I got to the NFL because I was
into the college Friday and Saturday so much. And I
asked him about that.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
The games deliver, There's no question about it. And in
this particular iteration, the twenty twenty five seasons. We don't
have enough room at the end for the teams that
probably could win a national championship. I mean there's a
number of teams that are going to be outside looking
in when the committee gets finished with their work this
next Sunday.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, And I think that's part of it. There were
just like there were so many teams that had a
tournament possibility that you got to watch. It just felt
like all the games just had greater magnitude. And now
we get to Selection Sunday this week, and I hope,
I hope that they don't overreact. I mean, there are
sixteen viable teams that could be in the tournament this year,
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but I hope they don't overreact and feel, well, we
have to expand it now because as Nick Saban said
on Saturday, and I watch College basketball sex Selection show
and they have sixty eight teams and they spend two
hours afterwards talking about the teams that didn't get in.
So it doesn't matter how big you make the tournament.
I like twelve. Want to keep it here for at
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least for a while. Kick the tires on this thing.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
I'm with you. I've long you know, said that the
number needs to go higher just so that you can
pay your bills. I mean, at the end of the day,
that's the reason it will go higher. But if you're
wanting competitive football and you're wanting what we have, I
just think we need to tweak the schedules and we
(26:25):
need to make it not as subjective in the committee room,
because they just stick to wins and losses, the head
to head stuff. The the notion of of you know,
who you played really isn't factored in. You can't have
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Notre Dame ahead of Miami. That makes no sense to anybody.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Give us your tweeks, go through your list of tweaks
that can fix what we look like. We're going to
be facing some potential issues.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Yeah, and you know I if you talk to Texas,
there are five teams that are going to make the
tournament from the SEC. And if you look at the
top five teams in the SEC, there are two that
are seven and one and there are three that are
six and two. Texas is one of those six and
two teams and they beat the other two six and
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two teams, but they lost to Ohio State. The reason
they lost to Ohio State is they played Ohio State,
they didn't have to and they're in. If we want
games that are going to be of significance in the
non conference, we can't penalize people. And yet I also
understand if you didn't win the game, you can't be
rewarded as if you did. So we need to have
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a way to actually make standardize the non conference schedules
as the NFL does, and if we can do that,
then we can get to where we want to be.
But all this arguing and all this consternation actually is
as much a part of the Thanksgiving table of college
football as any Well.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
If you're wanting to do that, incentivize people to do
what Texas did. And in playing Ohio State in Week one, don't.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
You think by the way they and by the way
Bucky they lost the game fourteen to seven, they outgained
them by two hundred yards, right, I mean it just
was one of those first games that this didn't go well.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, you just couldn't finish off some of those drives.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
And so to me, it's if you're talking about it,
you know, basically you want to get to the root
of the problem. Follow the dollar, you would have to
think that the dollar says playing games, having games like
that to be kicking off seasons or having those in
the first few weeks of a season is going to
be more of a money generator than playing against some
paddy cake, you know, team that you know you're going
to blow out by fifty sixty points. And so don't
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you think that the College Football and the committee included
kind of says, if we want this to continue, we
have to reward a team like Texas for going out
and playing that, because it's not like they haven't. This
isn't like they're a four lost team, you know that
just all of a sudden upset number three or beat
a number three team. I mean, they have two losses
in conference, and one was a bad one, but other
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than that, the other the rest of their schedule looks
like they've done fairly well.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Really well, and they've played five top ten teams. I mean,
the facts of the matter are they look like a
championship caliber team on Friday night, and as you're sitting there,
going are there eleven better teams than them? Are twelve
better teams than them? The answer is probably not based
on that showing, but the fact that they lost three
games is going to knock them out. Well, they lost
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the third game by virtue of playing a game in
Week one, which we are going to now spend a
lot of time focusing on, and yet we won't focus
on another game in Week one where Miami beat Notre
Dame because we just like Notre Dame. I don't get that.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Will Alabama if they lose on Saturday? Are you in
the camp of I don't think they should be penalized
because they earned the right to play an additional game
and have to play Georgia second time? Or do you
think a third loss regardless of when it came, considering
how much stiff competition is there to try to get
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into this loaded tournament, do you think that it will
cost them their spot.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Again with so many people knocking at the door. I
don't want to tell Caitlin de Bor there's no risk here.
I think there is risk, especially now if you told
me the game was they lose by a field goal
in overtime. I think they're fine. If you tell me
they get beat like Texas got beat thirty five to ten,
even though it was fourteen to ten going to the
fourth quarter. I think they're in harm's way because if
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BYU wins the Big twelve Championship they're in, does Texas
Tech fall out? Probably not. And there's where you could
slide Alabama out. You know, there's a number of people
pushing for Vanderbilt. There's a number of people pushing for Miami.
You might solve the Miami issue with that move, right.
So it's not a safe place to be if you're Alabama.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Are you resigned to Miami, Vanderbilt in Texas not getting
into this tournament no matter what unfolds.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
I am of the mind that those three teams are
going to be very, very disappointed. The only chance they
have is a Alabama loss.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Reck new isl If you want to hear the entire conversation,
feel free to check it out. It's our our shows
always in podcast form.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
You can say it at I three three khr dot
com and so make sure you listen to the entire thing.
We get into the games with him as well. But
Mayah again, we talked about like the parody in the
National Football League this year. Obviously there are more good
teams that are going to fit into this, you know,
twelve piece box. You know, we got twenty McNuggets and
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we only got a twelve piece box.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, it'll be overflown with chicken, right.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
And there are a lot of the things, almost everything
I agree with coach on. But there's one thing that
I just do not see how to ie with, and
that's the Miami Notre Dame line. You can't have Notre
Dame over Miami. I think there's a world where Miami
should get in over Notre Dame. I think there's a
great argument for that. Maybe fifty one percent of me
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feels like Miami should be in over Notre Dame. But
there's certainly a world where Notre Dame gets in over Miami.
And we'll talk about that a little bit later on
in the show when we have some time. But coming
up next, no cliche keys to victory for you. We
do it every Friday. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
Fun and dance with everybody else, but no cliche keys
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the victory roll around. I get this half hearted effort
over there.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
That's all he does.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
His hands are all the way up.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
See you have the ability to have fun, yeah and up, yes,
put him up in the air and wave him around
like you just don't care.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
We're not asking a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, get with the programs. Tired of dropping hints that
you're on the outside of this dance party looking in,
all right? Tip for no cliche keys to victory? Just
Ashley and I here today Bucky's out party. Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly.
So you can't use winning the trenches. You can't win
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use the turnover battle. We know how important those things are.
It's a cliche. Frankly, it's a cop out keeps you
from actually providing analysis that is meaningful. So what do
you think Seahawk's falcons will be the no cliche key
to victory?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Ashley, Well, I'm gonna say some very specific turnovers. Okay,
Sam Darnold needs to hold onto the ball when the
pass rush is coming at him, and that has been.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Talked about all this week. He has had a significant problem.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
He fumbles a lot when he gets sacked, and he
doesn't get sacked a lot, but his sacked to.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Fumble ratio is higher than it should be.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
And so I'm going to say in that moment, because
this is an there blitzeing team, right, just like the
Vikings that we played, So you're gonna see it a
lot again. So you gotta i mean glue the ball
to your body, to your hands.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Everything just hard to throw.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Yeah, it would be a wrap or wrap every ounce
of your flesh around it and hang on to that
damn ball and just and take the sack.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, Hugh makes a very good argument about this. I mean,
sometimes you just can't help it, like you're trying. You're
not holding a football like a running back holds a
football or a receipt, because you've got to throw the
damn thing. So quarterbacks are more vulnerable to this. But
you're right, the ratio is not good sacked to fumble ratio.
(34:42):
I don't know if Sam Darnold has a fumbling issue.
Maybe just the victim of you know, the bad timing.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Yeah, I don't think he has a fumbling issue. It's
just become this is an issue this particular.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
But I will say this, I mean, in terms of
your key, I do think it's one of those matchups
where as long as you don't make costly mistakes kill
yourself in the turnover battle.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
You should be fine.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
You should win this game. Yes, I mean, not only
are the Atlanta Falcons not very good, they're playing their
worst right now. They're banged up right now, and frankly,
I think they're just playing out the string with a
coach that everybody knows is going to get fired.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
It seems like it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
So my key is and you'll, you know. And in basketball,
it's harder to keep one guy from killing you because
everybody has the opportunity to touch the ball every trip
down the floor and there are only five guys on
each team. In baseball, boy, you shouldn't be a you
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shouldn't let one guy kill you. But the games are
so low scoring that if you pitch to Vladimir Guerrero once,
he might beat you. So it's hard to keep a
baseball guy from beating you. And football it's really difficult.
I mean, you got to kind of go out of
your way to let one take you down. And yet
I think it's one of those kind of games. As
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long as you don't let Jon Robinson take you down, yeah,
you should win this football game. And I just can't
imagine what I've seen from Mike McDonald that his game
plan isn't all about bottling up Bjon Robinson with a
very good, maybe great defense filled with terrific athleticism, and
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as you pointed out, I love this segment from him yesterday.
The zone run like this should be Bon Robinson's worst
matchup of the entire season. So for them to be
without Michael Pennix, without Drake London, and pretty much just
relying on whether or not Bjon Robinson can collect three
(36:46):
hundred total yards of offense, I just can't imagine a
Mike McDonald defense is going to be vulnerable or susceptible
to that attack. One guy I don't think can beat
Mike McDonald, So that's gonna be my He just don't
let Bejon Robinson dominate you. You should win this game,
And because I don't think that he will, I think
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and so much football to discuss on today's program, but
we're going to wiggle in a few other things as
well during our four hours together as we get things
started here on this Friday. So Ashley, Ryan, Chuck Powell
with you. We do have some of our top guests
lined up, our top experts, our analysts are going to
(01:53):
be joining us here coming up on the Friday radio program,
as you've come to expect. So we'll go through what's
on tap here in a little bit. Last night, Thursday
Night Football got week number fourteen of the National Football
League season underway, and we are coming down to it.
We are in the National Football League, and of course
(02:13):
it's fun to have a horse not just in the race,
but running as fast as anybody else. The Seahawks sitting
there at nine and three on the season. I mean,
it's been such a good year for so many teams
that you could have a game like last night where
it kind of felt like a playoff game, the Detroit
Lions and the Dallas Cowboys. The Cowboys who had gotten
(02:36):
off to the bad start but had rallied recently. Detroit,
who lost both its coordinators in the offseason, and people
were wondering if they could replicate well. I mean, they're
still a really good team, and yet they were going
into that game last night with a seven and five
record and looked like they were stumbling a little bit,
(02:57):
especially since Dan Campbell, who I think likes, had taken
over the play calling duties. It's kind of been weird
what's happened with the Detroit Lions. But last night they
step up and they win it by a final score
of forty four to thirty. So it did sort of
feel playoff. Yet it was certainly a lot of fun
(03:18):
watching the game last night, and it ended up being
just as high scoring as everybody was predicted. Yet weren't
many people taking the under, it felt like for this game,
and it ends up not only getting the over, but
it destroys the over last night. But I was thinking
about this on the drive in, as you know, people
are trying to like categorize this game and where to
(03:39):
put these two teams right now in this playoff race.
And then I heard a conversation listing off all of
the teams that are pretty good this year that are
on the outside of the playoffs looking in. I mean,
this is a I don't think there's a great team
in the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, I see that.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I think there's some teams that could end up being
great or could are building. I think ours is one
of them, is building toward being described as great.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
But no one's separating themselves.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I just think, I mean, there are a lot of
bad teams. Those are pretty eb obvious to recognize. But
if you're walking down the street right now, surrounded by
National Football League teams and you're trying to find the
one that's great, I mean, they all are dressed alike,
they all drive the same cars. It feels like, you know,
they all have the same level of education. They all
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it's kind of hard to really find the team. Even
the teams that at times have looked great have not
been able to sustain greatness. Green Bay's been so hot
and cold, Detroit's been so hot and cold. You know,
Buffalo's been so hot and cold to this point. Baltimore
has been mostly cold this season. We're waiting for them
(04:57):
to get hot. Yeah, they've won some games recently, but
they still haven't looked like the team that they were
supposed to be. And I'm wondering. I mean, people all
the time, Ashley say that they love the underdog story.
Yeah they don't. I mean, they like it in a movie,
they like Rudy, they like Hoosiers, But when it comes
(05:18):
to actual sports watching, we tend to gravitate toward greatness.
We can complain all we want about who's great and
why they're great, and you're sick of them being great.
But the truth of the matter is most sports fans,
and I'm not saying all for you that are in
your car and you don't fall into this category. You're
(05:38):
sure you don't fall into this category, and you're yelling
at me right now, but the numbers bear it out.
I mean, think about all of the people that can't
stand the Kansas City Chiefs, can't stand Taylor Swift because
of the Kansas City Chiefs or vice versa, complain constantly
(05:59):
that the rat are trying to help the Kansas City
Chiefs win. And I think about all of the people
that aren't cowboys fans that hate the cowboys, are sick
of the cowboys, think the cowboy arrogance is just we've
had enough of it, and we've had enough of it
for thirty five years. That Jerry Jones somehow is still
(06:20):
arrogant even though his team doesn't win games anymore. Those
are two teams that people hate right now in the
National Football Football fans not in Kansas City, not in Dallas,
or don't have some sort of fan tie to those
two teams, hate those two teams. Highest rated football game
ever on Thursday, not being a Super Bowl. Yeah, when
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the Chiefs faced the Cowboys. Those weren't even two teams
in the that were playoff teams. But we tend to
like the you know, the masses tend to like the
shiny object. Nobody gave a damn about the Tampa Bay Rays.
Great story a few years ago when they were making
World Series. Nobody watched the Rays play the Philadelphia Phillies.
(07:06):
Nobody sat there like, man, what a great story this is.
You can't wait Lewis payroll, fan base doesn't even really
support them, and yet Marin management, Oh so clever, Oh
they play so hard. Oh I gotta watch this one. Nope,
nobody watched it. But put the Yankees and the Red
Sox on television every single night for a decade and
(07:30):
watch people, even though they say they hate the two teams,
soak it up with a biscuit and so so here
we have a definitive. You know, twenty twenty five NFL
season where there's still certainly teams that people hate, but
we don't have greatness this year. I mean, the two
best teams right now in the National Football League record
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wise are Denver and New England. Anybody scared of those
two teams.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Probably not no.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Chance, Yeah, no chance that anybody's like, oh, but just
don't go whatever, however the bracket unfolds, Just to stay
away from New England as long as possible. No way. Yeah,
it's like, give me New England.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
They think everybody thinks it's not real and they're not legit.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Give me Denver. They just keep beating people by a
point because of some goofy turnover in the fourth quarter.
I mean, yeah, they're a good, solid team and they
play terrific defense, but give me Denver. And so it's
just it is the year. If you've been waiting for
the year where you're like, there is not a great
football team in the National Football League, this is it.
(08:36):
And if you think your own team, the Seahawks are
on the verge of being great, oh yeah, go ahead,
think all you want about how capable they are. You
are well with and you're not just being fanboy or
fangirl thinking the Seahawks can win the whole thing. They
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could emerge from this group of good and be that
team that ends up being great. It's that kind of
year this year in the National Football League. I personally
love it. I'm fascinated by it. But I know that
I'm an outlier because I did watch the Race play
the Phillies in the World Series and enjoyed it and
enjoyed the story. But most people tend to say they
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like they want parody and they like underdog stories. But
the television viewing habits of America do not support that
and never have. And so I would just after that
long rant, ask you, are you enjoying this year of
no greatness in the National Football League?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I actually am.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
It's frustrating only in terms of like a betting standpoint,
when you're like, oh, trying to figure out who you
think is going to win and then one team just
decides to not show up, because there has been so
much of that up and down this year. But I
think it's been fun because you are getting there's nobody
running away with anything right now, so you're getting all
of these possibilities as the season comes to an end,
versus when you get to the the end of the
(10:00):
season and you know, the Chiefs usually have clinched it
by now, and so they're just you know, usually there's
not all this excitement, not all of this possibility, and
right now there's still so much possibility.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I think it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I do too, and I hope people are enjoying it,
and I hope we get to the playoffs and nobody's
really established themselves as great, because you know, sometimes I
get to a Super Bowl and I'm a little disappointed
with the team that ends up because I'm like, oh,
you just got hot at the right time. Yeah, don't.
(10:32):
I invested all this time in this entire season, and
what did I get. I got a team that I
don't even believe is all that good? Right playing in
the super Bowl. That's happened frequently throughout our lifetimes. So
I at least want to believe in the two teams
that got there, you know what I mean. And yet
they're going to be teams that don't even make the
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playoffs this year that I think have the potential to
be too emerge as great. The Kansas City Chiefs and
Houston Texans are playing Sunday night. Neither one of them
are playoff teams right now. That game we watched last night,
as highly entertaining as it was, neither team are playoff
teams right now. As good as what the Lions. We're
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convinced that the Lions are, and as much as everybody
does like the Lions, and if my team can't get there,
I hope the Lions or the Bills get their mentality
that we have as football fans right now. But neither
of the Lions, even with the win, have not catapulted
themselves into playoff position. So we've got one of those
years where every single team that makes the playoffs has
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a believable path to the super Bowl. And I think
it's great, I really do. The only thing about it
that is a little off putting is trying to figure
out why this year, more than any other year, teams
can look great for three or four weeks and then
look like crap for three or four weeks, and then
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you're wondering, well, when is it going to come back
around again? So it probably will be one of those
scenarios where, man, everybody that gets into the playoffs is
going to end up having a good record, with the
exception of maybe the AFC North champion, and then from
that point forward, it probably will be the team that
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gets the hottest. And yet I think or I know
it will be the team that gets the hottest. But
I do believe that every single team that is going
to qualify for the playoffs, maybe the first time ever
could write al you could write a believable script that
they're going to win at all and that includes the
team we root for here in the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, And that's the exciting part of it is that
is especially as a Seahawks fan. I mean, would it
be nice if we were just running away with a
division and there was no stress? Sure that, you know,
it's nice to, especially as a Seattle fan, to have
a moment of no stress.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
But we don't very often get that.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
And if I was given the chance between no stress
or down to the wire, let's see who makes it
in Let's see who wins the NFC West, I mean,
I want the excitement of down to the wire to
see what happens.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I would argue that the three least believable teams that
I could see putting the crown on at the end
of the year are the three teams with the best
records in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I think that's probably true. I think a lot of
people would agree with you.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
New England, Denver and Chicago. Yeah, I mean I don't
see them as Super Bowl champion. Certainly as playoff teams
and all the credit in the world what Sean Payton's
done in Denver and Mike Rabel's done in his first
year with the New England Patriots, and what the Bears
are doing under Ben Johnson, but I don't buy any
of those three teams as super Bowl. That team I
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watched last night beat the Cowboys, I think is better
than all three of those teams. Yeah, and yet they're
not even in the playoffs right now.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So it's just it's one of those years. I mean,
we always talk about parody and whether or not we
truly do want it.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I do.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I do like it. I think it's very fascinating. Sure,
there's also it's also very fascinating to have the Michael
Jordan Bulls and that team that you know has clearly
established not just greatness but dynastic greatness, and having them
circled as can anyone beat the Bulls this year. That's
(14:23):
awesome too, that's a great story too. But I don't know.
I mean, as often as we talk about parody in
our sports, I'm not sure I've ever seen it play
out as succinctly as it is this year in the
National Football League. There are too many good teams because
not all of them can make the playoffs. There are
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more good teams than playoff spots this year, and there's
not a single great one. Right there are teams capable
of greatness, and I think we have one.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Of those, but no one's shown it yet.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
But no one, I don't think anybody. I mean maybe
the Rams. I mean they've had a pretty dominant but
I thought we outplayed them even though they beat us.
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah, it's It's interesting because it's certainly not the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
They look like crap all year long, and aft they're
eight and four.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah, and so yeah, you look at the two Super
Bowl teams from last year, the Eagles and the Chiefs,
and I think, like god it, I hope we don't
get a matchup of that. That would be terrible in
the Super Bowl if they somehow both made it. The
Chiefs are looking like they're not even gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You's look like they're not going to make the playoffs.
And I'm telling you right now, that Dallas team that
lost last night, as much as people hate Dallas, they're
better than the Eagles right now. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Well, yeah, they just beat them. Yeah, they just beat them.
I was gonna say, yeah, but so they're better.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Than the Philadelpa Eagles right now, even though they're definding.
Now that again the hot and cold of this year. Yeah,
the Eagles certainly have everything it takes to get their
crap back together.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, they are not figuring out how to do it though.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
But they have.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
This is twelve games. There were twelve games into this season.
I know they've won eight of them, but they have
not looked like the same team in any of the
twelve games they've played this year. They have not looked
like the team that we watched in the second half
and into the playoffs last year.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah. No, and I agree.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
And it's it is interesting because when we were talking,
when you were talking about the parody, and you know,
having these teams in the Super Bowl and everybody really
is going to tune in to see the big teams,
even with the dynasties, right, Yeah, I was sick of
the Patriots. I'm sick of the Chiefs, just of winning
all the time. Right, So you're tuning in now to see, well, yeah,
can that team knock them out? Can they stop them
(16:28):
from three peating? And that's where the excitement still comes in,
as long as it's not the same two teams in
the Super Bowl every year.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Well, we tend to watch the Super Bowl no matter what.
Ye unlike the World Series, but certainly there are the
matchups that you feel are epic, that are historic. Yes,
And I don't think there's I mean, there are ways
to get there. I think Buffalo Detroit is a historic
Super Bowl matchup. I don't think anybody is not watching
(16:56):
that game. But they've got to get there first, yeah,
I mean, and the way Buffaloes look like crap at
times this year too.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Well, and there's just the additions that they're making too.
And then now, yeah, they added Darius Lay, who now
is like I might retire, actually thinks it's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I mean, I think it's completely fascinating. I love that
we're going into Week fourteen and there's one game separating
the Texans, Colts, and Jaguars right now. Yeah, I love
that we're in Week fourteen and the Ravens and the
Steelers are are are not running away with a division
in which the Cincinnati Bengals have been outscored by ninety
(17:33):
four points this year and have played without their best
player all season long.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I mean, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And there are only two games. The Ravens and the
Steelers are only two games up on that.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah, the Bengals should have should have had no chance
with Joe Burrow coming back to even consider making the playoffs,
and they do have a legitimate shot to try to
figure it out.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I love that the Carolina Panthers are seven and six.
I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I love that they don't know how they're and they're.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Getting better every single week. So I mean, it's, uh,
it's it's been a fun season. It's been a wacky season.
I don't think we've ever seen a season quite like it.
And I and and obviously the path that we're on,
I mean normally we get to the postseason and you're like,
oh gosh, they're seven and ten, why are they in
the playoffs? This year, there's going to be a team
(18:21):
that's going to be like eleven and five, or see
me eleven and six that might not make the playoffs.
That's the kind of year that it has been. All Right,
let's find out what's on tap for the rest of
the show.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
What's on TEP?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
What's untep? All Right, Seahawks and Atlanta Sunday at ten o'clock.
It is a football Friday. We will have Greg Bell.
It's kind of our mir plaw of of of football.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
What's that word mean?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's that rue that almost all Cajun dishes start with.
All Right, you know, it's like, yeah, so our football Friday.
The base, the bass flavors are all here. The ingredients
are Greg Bell at seven oh five, Hugh Millin at nine,
and Mike Holmgren at nine thirty today, and we'll also
hear from Rick Neweissel today at some point as well.
(19:10):
I'll explain that in a moment. The Allions did defeat
the Cowboys to get the week started forty four to
thirty last night. But Week fourteen, as I think I
have illustrated, fascinating Indianapolis at Jacksonville. They're tied to top
the AFC South. They play the early game Chicago and
Green Bay separated by a half game in the NFC North,
(19:31):
they play the best afternoon game on Sunday. And then
you've got the night game Houston at Kansas City. And
believe it or not, both of those teams are on
the outside looking in at the playoffs at this point,
so they might both be and must win mode already.
So that's a pretty good Sunday night tilt. And then
of course you've got the AFC North Division. Pittsburgh at
(19:54):
Baltimore is taking place this Sunday. Cincinnati will be at Buffalo,
and I know Buffalo's not in that vision, but obviously
Cincinnati is, and so that's a fascinating Joe Burrow versus
Josh Allen matchup. So this is one of the better,
if not one of the best weeks in the National
Football League on paper, that we have seen this year.
College football great weekend obviously, because it's conference championship weekend
(20:19):
and the conference championships will actually start to be determined tonight.
You'll have the lesser programs going for their conference championships tonight,
Troy versus James Madison at four o'clock tonight, North Texas
will take on Tulane at five o'clock. Very interesting part
of this evening is that I have been misrepresenting a
(20:42):
little bit how these rules work, and it's hard to
keep track of all of them. I have told you
repeatedly there's a chance the ACC champion might not be
in the tournament. That's true, there is a chance. But
here's what I misrepresented. Five conference champions have to be represented.
So that means two of the teams that are playing
(21:05):
tonight could get in above Duke. Oh wow, Okay, So
North Texas Tulane winner could be above them, and if
James Madison wins, they could be above them. They won't
be above Virginia, but they will be above Duke. So
we could have two of the group of five. In
a year in which there are about twenty deserving teams
to make the tournament, we could have two small programs
(21:27):
getting in and mucking things up for everybody.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
We love that.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Saturday BYU at Texas Tech that's at
nine am. Georgia and Alabama's at one, Indiana and Ohio
State is at five, and Virginia at Duke also at
five o'clock. Selections Sunday will announce it's this Sunday. The
twelve teams in this year's tournament College basketball ubs at
USC tomorrow at three o'clock. The Kraken just got dominated
(21:53):
last night by the Edmonton Oilers nine to four, and
the Winter meetings will start to Sunday. We will all
also talk about this at some point today as well,
but coming up next. Rick new isil earlier this week,
in case you missed it, talked about the upcoming selection
Sunday some of the problems he has with it. We'll
get into that next. Sports Radio ninety three point three
(22:14):
kJ R F M D.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
I like the addition, Brenton, only our cameras work.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, you got what I was putting down there. I
sure it did a little Friday dance party between Ashley
Ryan and myself.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Ju't worry five Iron, there will be no slow dances
on this dance party.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
He'd be like, actually, if you do it, I don't
have to. That'd be great.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
He doesn't really strike me as a slow dance I
want to dance kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Now, when we got married, he's like, we have to
do a dance. I was like, yes, we have to
do a dance.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Something tells me in your time and your wonderful marital
bliss of how many years? Thirteen years? Never once his
five iron in the middle of the evening while you're
watching the game, put down his laptop and said, you
want to go dancing?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
No, we've been at least two where they're dancing. He's like,
and people are like, come on, let's go dance.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
He's like, I don't dance.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
He has to be quite intoxicated to dance, and then
you can't get him off the dance floor.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
And you also don't want him on the dance floor.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
So he will go on if he's had enough beverages, okay, because.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
There are a lot of people that won't go on
at all, like it's the scariest thing for them in
the world.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
He's fine if he's had plenty of liquid courage.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yes, okay, all right, I like that. I like that.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
All right, yeah, I like it because you haven't seen
it yet.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
But even if he's terrible, I just like people, you know,
as the song suggests, I hope you dance. Yes, there
you go. So I'm glad that he has at least danced,
even if he had to be chased off the dance.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
He has at least danced.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
That's good. That's good, all right. Rick Neuheisel joins us
every Tuesday at nine o'clock and often, as you know,
if you listen to this show regularly on Fridays, we
replace some of it for you on a football Friday,
just in case you missed it. Well, we talked about
the games that are coming up in conference championship week,
(24:19):
but I Ashley and I have chosen to replay for
you the portion about selection Sunday and how this tournament feeled,
all the drama that's going into this final week before
we know the twelve teams that are officially going to
get into the tournament. So we'll pick up the conversation there.
When I talked to coach, I started the conversation just
(24:41):
by talking about how exciting Saturday was. All of the
college football action with all of the different playoff implications.
Actually for me was more entertaining. Sunday was like a
disappointment when I got to the NFL because I was
into the college Friday and Saturday so much. And I
asked him about that.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
The games deliver, There's no question about it. And in
this particular iteration, the twenty twenty five seasons. We don't
have enough room at the end for the teams that
probably could win a national championship. I mean there's a
number of teams that are going to be outside looking
in when the committee gets finished with their work this
next Sunday.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, And I think that's part of it. There were
just like there were so many teams that had a
tournament possibility that you got to watch. It just felt
like all the games just had greater magnitude. And now
we get to Selection Sunday this week, and I hope,
I hope that they don't overreact. I mean, there are
sixteen viable teams that could be in the tournament this year,
(25:40):
but I hope they don't overreact and feel, well, we
have to expand it now because as Nick Saban said
on Saturday, and I watch College basketball sex Selection show
and they have sixty eight teams and they spend two
hours afterwards talking about the teams that didn't get in.
So it doesn't matter how big you make the tournament.
I like twelve. Want to keep it here for at
(26:01):
least for a while. Kick the tires on this thing.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
I'm with you. I've long you know, said that the
number needs to go higher just so that you can
pay your bills. I mean, at the end of the day,
that's the reason it will go higher. But if you're
wanting competitive football and you're wanting what we have, I
just think we need to tweak the schedules and we
(26:25):
need to make it not as subjective in the committee room,
because they just stick to wins and losses, the head
to head stuff. The the notion of of you know,
who you played really isn't factored in. You can't have
(26:46):
Notre Dame ahead of Miami. That makes no sense to anybody.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Give us your tweeks, go through your list of tweaks
that can fix what we look like. We're going to
be facing some potential issues.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Yeah, and you know I if you talk to Texas,
there are five teams that are going to make the
tournament from the SEC. And if you look at the
top five teams in the SEC, there are two that
are seven and one and there are three that are
six and two. Texas is one of those six and
two teams and they beat the other two six and
(27:18):
two teams, but they lost to Ohio State. The reason
they lost to Ohio State is they played Ohio State,
they didn't have to and they're in. If we want
games that are going to be of significance in the
non conference, we can't penalize people. And yet I also
understand if you didn't win the game, you can't be
rewarded as if you did. So we need to have
(27:40):
a way to actually make standardize the non conference schedules
as the NFL does, and if we can do that,
then we can get to where we want to be.
But all this arguing and all this consternation actually is
as much a part of the Thanksgiving table of college
football as any Well.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
If you're wanting to do that, incentivize people to do
what Texas did. And in playing Ohio State in Week one, don't.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
You think by the way they and by the way
Bucky they lost the game fourteen to seven, they outgained
them by two hundred yards, right, I mean it just
was one of those first games that this didn't go well.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, you just couldn't finish off some of those drives.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
And so to me, it's if you're talking about it,
you know, basically you want to get to the root
of the problem. Follow the dollar, you would have to
think that the dollar says playing games, having games like
that to be kicking off seasons or having those in
the first few weeks of a season is going to
be more of a money generator than playing against some
paddy cake, you know, team that you know you're going
to blow out by fifty sixty points. And so don't
(28:46):
you think that the College Football and the committee included
kind of says, if we want this to continue, we
have to reward a team like Texas for going out
and playing that, because it's not like they haven't. This
isn't like they're a four lost team, you know that
just all of a sudden upset number three or beat
a number three team. I mean, they have two losses
in conference, and one was a bad one, but other
(29:08):
than that, the other the rest of their schedule looks
like they've done fairly well.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Really well, and they've played five top ten teams. I mean,
the facts of the matter are they look like a
championship caliber team on Friday night, and as you're sitting there,
going are there eleven better teams than them? Are twelve
better teams than them? The answer is probably not based
on that showing, but the fact that they lost three
games is going to knock them out. Well, they lost
(29:36):
the third game by virtue of playing a game in
Week one, which we are going to now spend a
lot of time focusing on, and yet we won't focus
on another game in Week one where Miami beat Notre
Dame because we just like Notre Dame. I don't get that.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Will Alabama if they lose on Saturday? Are you in
the camp of I don't think they should be penalized
because they earned the right to play an additional game
and have to play Georgia second time? Or do you
think a third loss regardless of when it came, considering
how much stiff competition is there to try to get
(30:13):
into this loaded tournament, do you think that it will
cost them their spot.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Again with so many people knocking at the door. I
don't want to tell Caitlin de Bor there's no risk here.
I think there is risk, especially now if you told
me the game was they lose by a field goal
in overtime. I think they're fine. If you tell me
they get beat like Texas got beat thirty five to ten,
even though it was fourteen to ten going to the
fourth quarter. I think they're in harm's way because if
(30:42):
BYU wins the Big twelve Championship they're in, does Texas
Tech fall out? Probably not. And there's where you could
slide Alabama out. You know, there's a number of people
pushing for Vanderbilt. There's a number of people pushing for Miami.
You might solve the Miami issue with that move, right.
So it's not a safe place to be if you're Alabama.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Are you resigned to Miami, Vanderbilt in Texas not getting
into this tournament no matter what unfolds.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
I am of the mind that those three teams are
going to be very, very disappointed. The only chance they
have is a Alabama loss.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Reck new isl If you want to hear the entire conversation,
feel free to check it out. It's our our shows
always in podcast form.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
You can say it at I three three khr dot
com and so make sure you listen to the entire thing.
We get into the games with him as well. But
Mayah again, we talked about like the parody in the
National Football League this year. Obviously there are more good
teams that are going to fit into this, you know,
twelve piece box. You know, we got twenty McNuggets and
(31:51):
we only got a twelve piece box.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, it'll be overflown with chicken, right.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
And there are a lot of the things, almost everything
I agree with coach on. But there's one thing that
I just do not see how to ie with, and
that's the Miami Notre Dame line. You can't have Notre
Dame over Miami. I think there's a world where Miami
should get in over Notre Dame. I think there's a
great argument for that. Maybe fifty one percent of me
(32:19):
feels like Miami should be in over Notre Dame. But
there's certainly a world where Notre Dame gets in over Miami.
And we'll talk about that a little bit later on
in the show when we have some time. But coming
up next, no cliche keys to victory for you. We
do it every Friday. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
Fun and dance with everybody else, but no cliche keys
(32:40):
the victory roll around. I get this half hearted effort
over there.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
That's all he does.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
His hands are all the way up.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
See you have the ability to have fun, yeah and up, yes,
put him up in the air and wave him around
like you just don't care.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
We're not asking a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, get with the programs. Tired of dropping hints that
you're on the outside of this dance party looking in,
all right? Tip for no cliche keys to victory? Just
Ashley and I here today Bucky's out party. Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly.
So you can't use winning the trenches. You can't win
(33:19):
use the turnover battle. We know how important those things are.
It's a cliche. Frankly, it's a cop out keeps you
from actually providing analysis that is meaningful. So what do
you think Seahawk's falcons will be the no cliche key
to victory?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Ashley, Well, I'm gonna say some very specific turnovers. Okay,
Sam Darnold needs to hold onto the ball when the
pass rush is coming at him, and that has been.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Talked about all this week. He has had a significant problem.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
He fumbles a lot when he gets sacked, and he
doesn't get sacked a lot, but his sacked to.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Fumble ratio is higher than it should be.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
And so I'm going to say in that moment, because
this is an there blitzeing team, right, just like the
Vikings that we played, So you're gonna see it a
lot again. So you gotta i mean glue the ball
to your body, to your hands.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Everything just hard to throw.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Yeah, it would be a wrap or wrap every ounce
of your flesh around it and hang on to that
damn ball and just and take the sack.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, Hugh makes a very good argument about this. I mean,
sometimes you just can't help it, like you're trying. You're
not holding a football like a running back holds a
football or a receipt, because you've got to throw the
damn thing. So quarterbacks are more vulnerable to this. But
you're right, the ratio is not good sacked to fumble ratio.
(34:42):
I don't know if Sam Darnold has a fumbling issue.
Maybe just the victim of you know, the bad timing.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Yeah, I don't think he has a fumbling issue. It's
just become this is an issue this particular.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
But I will say this, I mean, in terms of
your key, I do think it's one of those matchups
where as long as you don't make costly mistakes kill
yourself in the turnover battle.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
You should be fine.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
You should win this game. Yes, I mean, not only
are the Atlanta Falcons not very good, they're playing their
worst right now. They're banged up right now, and frankly,
I think they're just playing out the string with a
coach that everybody knows is going to get fired.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
It seems like it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
So my key is and you'll, you know. And in basketball,
it's harder to keep one guy from killing you because
everybody has the opportunity to touch the ball every trip
down the floor and there are only five guys on
each team. In baseball, boy, you shouldn't be a you
(35:43):
shouldn't let one guy kill you. But the games are
so low scoring that if you pitch to Vladimir Guerrero once,
he might beat you. So it's hard to keep a
baseball guy from beating you. And football it's really difficult.
I mean, you got to kind of go out of
your way to let one take you down. And yet
I think it's one of those kind of games. As
(36:04):
long as you don't let Jon Robinson take you down, yeah,
you should win this football game. And I just can't
imagine what I've seen from Mike McDonald that his game
plan isn't all about bottling up Bjon Robinson with a
very good, maybe great defense filled with terrific athleticism, and
(36:25):
as you pointed out, I love this segment from him yesterday.
The zone run like this should be Bon Robinson's worst
matchup of the entire season. So for them to be
without Michael Pennix, without Drake London, and pretty much just
relying on whether or not Bjon Robinson can collect three
(36:46):
hundred total yards of offense, I just can't imagine a
Mike McDonald defense is going to be vulnerable or susceptible
to that attack. One guy I don't think can beat
Mike McDonald, So that's gonna be my He just don't
let Bejon Robinson dominate you. You should win this game,
And because I don't think that he will, I think
(37:06):
we'll win this game, all right. Coming up next Headlines
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