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December 5, 2025 36 mins
Headlines and 12th Man News with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune) Julian Love could be returning, so how will that affect the rest of the defense? What are Gregg’s keys to a Seahawks victory and can the Seahawks pull it off? :30- It’s our last Fact or Fiction pick of the year… and it’s a big one. Ashley better not screw this up! :45- Get ready for all of the CFP ranking noise, because it’s coming on Sunday! No matter what the selection committee does on Sunday, some fanbases are going to be angry and loud. Bring on the chaos!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Here comes Seattle into the offensive zone of the high
slot as Winterton forced off the puck now turned over
it front backhead scos Freddie Gatrol forces the turnover, undresses
Calvin Pickard out in front, and the Seattle crackhead pulled
back to within one twenty seven seconds to play in

(00:24):
the first three to Edmonton.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Nice that to Evertt and Ashley found the silver lining
last night. There you go, Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
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(00:57):
scoring and scoring.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, wait till you the highlight in the ohow, it's
not as optimistic as that one was.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
There wouldn't stop scoring. It was a lot wem make
them stop scoring. At nine to four the final score
last night. So the Kraken finally found some offense and
then they couldn't stop Edmonton from doing whatever they wanted.
Connor McDavid ended up with a hat trick. How did
he not end up with six goals last night out

(01:23):
of the nine? And so suddenly Lane Lambert's Kracking are
in the midst of their first serious slump of the
Lambert era. When they play defense, they can't score, and
then when they score, they can't top stop the other
team from scoring.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
And so four straight losses for the Kracking. They haven't
scored on the power play in four games now, and
they fall into eleven, eight and six on the year.
They'll try to snap out of it tomorrow. They'll be
at home against the Detroit Red Wings at seven o'clock.
That's where we'll start our frost r cors Light Choose

(02:01):
Chill headlines here on a Friday, let's rip through some
other notes here. Of course, Selection Sunday coming up in
college football, so that will be the culmination of conference
championship week. In the college game, they're going to be
games tonight of significance, and there is a chance that
if James Madison wins over Troy tonight, they're goin to

(02:23):
be two group of five teams that make the tournament field.
The overcrowded tournament field where not all the worthy teams
can get into the twelve team field. There is a
chance that two group of five teams can get in
because if Duke beats Virginia tomorrow night, James Madison, North
Texas and Tulane all rank higher than Duke, so that

(02:47):
means ACC doesn't get in and two group of five
teams will get into the tournament field this year talk
about some controversy. Put it to hear that conversation on Monday.
If that happens, I love it. Meanwhile, number eleven BYU
at number four Texas Tech to get us started tomorrow
at nine am. Georgia will play at one o'clock against
Alabama for the SEC title, and Indiana versus Ohio State

(03:11):
the game of the weekend at number two versus number
one for the Big Ten title at five o'clock. Virginia
will play Duke also at five o'clock. National Football League
Week number fourteen got started last night with the Detroit
Lions defeating the Dallas Cowboys by a final score of
forty four to thirty. They scored the last fourteen points
in the game. Great schedule this weekend Indianapolis at Jacksonville,

(03:35):
Chicago in Green Bay, Houston at Kansas City, Cincinnati at Buffalo,
Pittsburgh at Baltimore. Man. That's a great schedule this week
in the NFL. And on Sunday, the Seahawks will also
be part of that schedule. They'll be taking on the
Atlanta Falcons. It's time to chat with Greg with the
Bell tolls.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
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Speaker 2 (04:09):
Now with Man News, Here's Greg Bell with Chuck and
Budd and Greg Bell's going to be calling one of
these games this weekend, right, do I have that right?

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Good morning to Yes, I'm going to be at Husky
Stadium tonight at the three A final Mount Tahma and
oday Mountahoma, China went for the first time in forty
five years against course the Institution that money Cooler has
a ODI. Mike Betton and I are gonna be doing it.
Michael be on play by play. I have the color
analysts and now it's just seven pm on nine to
fifty am tonight from Husky Stadium on.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Fun looking forward to it. I can tell you're looking
forward to it.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
Yeah, I enjoy I did it last year with Chris Kidd.
I did the play by play last year when O'Dea
beat Bellevue, and I've officiated a couple of O Day
games this year. I'm familiar a little bit with them,
so yeah, it's yeah, it's fun. It's fun for the
kids to be in Husky Stadium. That they did it
right at WI credit Gen Cohen she got that done
before she left for USC, and many around college athletics

(05:08):
wanted those high school players to be on a bigger
stage than they were. Of course, they had moved out
of the Tacoma Dome for some rent and remodeling issues,
and then they played a couple of years done in
Puallup and various regular high school fields. But now at
Husky Stadium it feels like a big deal for those kids.
It's cool, all right.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
So seven o'clock tonight it will be to Home Mount
to Homa versus Oday seven o'clock Greg and Mike on
the call, and then tomorrow night the four a state
championship sumner in Lake Stevens. It'll be Chris Kidd and
Dick Vane on the call tomorrow night as well. All right, well,
let's get in Seahawks Falcons. Well, a name that didn't
pop up yesterday in our roundtable and should have is

(05:48):
Julian Love. What's the update on him? I mean, is
he ready to play?

Speaker 6 (05:54):
Well, they're me and Coy for competitive reasons. They don't
want the Falcons to know that the Pro Bowl safeties
back for the first since September. He said yesterday, there's
a plan. I don't know if I'm supposed to say this,
but there's a plan. He used the term ramp up,
which is the same term that Mike McDonald used. He's
back from he's been designated to return from injured reserve.
And how the NFL roles are now is that you

(06:16):
have twenty one days up to a max of twenty
one days to practice before they have to make a
roster decision on you. Love's not going to take it
all twenty one days. But he did have a setback
in late October when he tried to come back, and
it set him back a month. So they are being
somewhat of a ramp up caution with him. He's been
listed as a limited practice participant in the first two
days of practice. He's been back here Wednesday and Thursday,

(06:39):
whereas Jared Reid has also been designated return from injured
reserve has been a full practice participant coming off his
wrist surgery. So it would appear reading Tea leaves that
Jared Reid is closer to playing Sunday in Atlanta than
Julian Love. But the way Love is answered that yesterday
and how coy, I have a feeling that the plan

(06:59):
is that He's going to get activated and Jared Reed
will be both activated to play on Sunday in Atlanta.
They have two roster spots open on the active fifty three.
It would appear Red and Love are going to fill those.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Man getting Love back. I mean, I had Greg Bell
and Hugh Mellan yesterday spent ten minutes talking about they're
just now unlocking nick Emon Warri's abilities. DeMarcus Lawrence, at
age thirty three, might be playing the best football we've
seen in years, if not for his career. Ernest Jones
the perfect fit. I mean, this defense already looks very good.

(07:33):
Maybe even great. I mean, how much better could it
get in the last third of the season.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
Yeah, it's not even mentioning. Leonard Williams and Byron Murphy
are co leading the team with sacks right now at six. Yeah,
Love coming back gives them another card to play. He
gives Mike McDonald's Pacific another card to play, another way
to play, different coverages, way to do a different arrange.
We call everyone on the roster and on we call

(08:00):
Nick and even worry of safety, but he's not. He's everything. He's,
as we mentioned, even a defensive end right now. So
Love's return doesn't really affect him because even whore it
doesn't play much in the back end. But tyle Katta
is the one who has emerged since Love has gotten hurt.
Who would stand to lose the most playing time if
Love comes back? And frankly, if you see how you

(08:23):
take that trade right, I'll take Jillian Love for tyer
Katta for the playoff run. So, yeah, good gets better
if Jillian Love can come back without a setback and
he can be full go his smarts. I mean, he
can diagnose plays before they happen. He's played every position
in the secondary he's been a corner with the Giants,
he's been a nickel, he's been a free safety of

(08:44):
strong safety. That really comes in handy when teams like
the Rams in the forty nine ers send all their
formations and their bunch groupings of receivers and misdirections at
the Jillian Love really would come in handy to be
back on the field for those games.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Greg Bell is with us our Sea Haawks insider, joining
us here on this Football Friday, getting you ready for
Seahawks Falcons on Sunday morning at ten o'clock from Atlanta, Georgia.
More on that in a moment. But I couldn't help
but notice that you wrote about something that I tried
my damnedest to get in on Monday's show. But it
we just there, just didn't seem to be the window.

(09:22):
But Brandon Peeley got away with something football players normally
don't get away with. Number one, he stood up for
his teammate by coming in and punching another guy in
the face. Number two, he got away with it Scott
Free and number three, the guy that he hit got
the fifteen yard penalty in the game. And so I mean,

(09:43):
everybody's looking for that free shot against that guy that's
playing dirty, and Brandon Peeley got it. And I thought
that it was never going to actually get talked about
or written about until you wrote about it for the
News Tribute. What did you find out about that entire
storeory line.

Speaker 6 (10:01):
Well, this week he's been a full keyro Brandon Peely
has in his locker room. That's great that Leonard Williams
is offered to pay his fine if the NFL finds him,
and there's a good chance the NFL is going to
find Brandon Peely today. That's a seventy million dollar defensive
end offer the practice squad defensive tackle to pay to
pay his five the sideline. The reason I wrote about

(10:22):
it is I noticed through the binokas the sideline went
nuts when Peely came off the field at the end
of that series. For what he did. Josh Joe was
coming in to make a tackle at the end of
the running back seventeen yard run in the fourth quarter,
and Blake Brando, the guard for Minnesota head budded Josh
job as you're trying to get him as if you're

(10:43):
trying to get him off his running backs tackle just
head butted him face match to face mask. Jove, in fact,
got taken out by the NFL's concussion monitor from the
sideline and had to come out of the game to
be checked for concussion. He cleared a protocol, so he's okay.
But as soon as Peeley saw that, he ran another
ten yards behind the play, and you're right, he threw

(11:05):
a punch. It was a haymaker right hand, which is
not quite wise if he's got the other guy's got
a helmet on. But the inside of his arm met
his fist missed, but the force of his arm thrusting
hit the side of Branda's head and knocked his head back.
That should have been an ejection in the rules. If
you throw a punch, whether it lands or not, it's

(11:27):
an ejection. But they missed it. You're right. The flag
came to Peeley. I talked to him yesterday. He said, yeah,
I thought that flag was on me for sure. He's
also saying, why are you asking me in writing this,
because I don't want them to find me. Hopefully they
just forget about me. But he said that that's he
was sticking up for his guy, and he said, that's
the locker room culture they have built here. He said,

(11:50):
in the way he sees it, it's been twofold. The players,
the guys that they brought into that building, how they
are wired, and Mike McDonald's culture, how he feeds this brotherhood.
McDonald thinks the brotherhood aspect of this team, which Leonard
Williams and the Marcus Lawrence think is the reason this
is the best defense those two have ever played on
and they played twenty three combined years in the league.

(12:13):
But they think it started. They think that brotherhood is
the key to the Seahawks being nine to three and
haven't won the best defensive league. Mike McDonald thinks it
started back in April when and we talked about this
back then, Chuck that everyone one hundred percent of the
veterans showed up for the voluntary meetings, workouts, drills. That's

(12:33):
unheard of. Guys usually go to weddings, wives, have babies,
in the offseason, whatever, for kids' birthday party, any reason
they could figure out not to come to that stuff.
And if nobody bats an eye usually well one dred
percent of the Seahawks showed up for those and McDonald
at the time said, this is special. I know, I
don't normally get this, and coaches don't normally get this,

(12:54):
and McDonald has mentioned it a couple times. Is why
he thinks this team is tighter than any He's been
on the Ravens for ten years and Brandon Peely's act
was an example of that. We'll see if he gets fined.
Maybe didn't help his cause by writing about it so
everyone can read about it, but yeah, he's Brandon Peely
is a very popular guy. Asking well, what happened? What

(13:16):
were you thinking? Then he said, my brotherly instinct kicked in.
I said, oh, how many siblings you have? He said nine.
He's the oldest. He's the oldest of ten kids, and
they grew up in Anchorage, Alaska at some moment in
the Alaska Native American family explain everything, Yes, exactly, and

(13:42):
he's the oldest of ten. His youngest sisters four. Can
you imagine twenty six to four that family's ten kids.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Greg Bell with us R S the UX Insider, All right, well,
let's use our remaining times talk about this matchup with
the Atlanta Falcons. I mean, this is just this is
the last game on the schedule that you absolutely should
not lose, and so how could they possibly lose this
game against a floundering four and nine football team that
no doubt is playing its worst football right now.

Speaker 6 (14:12):
Yeah, lost six of seven. Atlanta has lost their starting quarterback,
Michael Pennix, who we all know here in Seattle, and
that's usually the end of the season. And even though
it's a veteran Kirk Cousins, former eighty million dollar guy,
this is not how it's supposed to go. Drake Glennon,
their top receiver, hasn't practiced all week. He may not play,
which underlines the fact that it's Dejon Robinson all day

(14:33):
for Atlanta. The top running back, the number five running
back in the league, is going to be a thousand
yard rusher with five more yards on Sunday. If he
runs for one hundred hundred and fifty and the Seahawks
and Sam Darnold turn the ball over a few times,
they could lose this game. The Seahawks are not yet
to the point that they can just roll the ball
out and win. Sure, so that's the recipe, don't turn

(14:56):
the ball over. And so far this is the number
three NFL defense rush defense, and as I said, I
just don't think they've been tested all that much because
they've been leading like two touchdowns early in games. This
will be the test. Atlanta, even if they fall behind,
will continue to run stop Bijon Robinson, and you're going
to win. And you're right. This will be the last
game that this is like this. This is the last game.

(15:19):
The schedule gets tougher from here. Eight and four Colts
next week, then the Rams in the Big Battle Royal rematch,
then they go to Carolina, who is seven and six
in playoff contention, and then they end at San Francisco.
So must win in essense, you just don't want to
give this one away. The Rams came back to you
in the standings last week by losing in Carolina, which

(15:40):
evens the NFC West at nine to three. You want
to keep it that way until when Rams come up
here December eighteen.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah. I just can't imagine this defense. As great as
Robinson is, and he's great, and I don't overuse the
word great, he's a great player. I just can't imagine
this defense against one great running back is susceptible. I
just can't see that he.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
Wouldn't think so. And eventually Kirk Cousin's going to have
to throw and the way the Seahawks have played this
defense this year because they've stopped the run so effectively,
those throwing situations have been third and long. So get
them in third and along again, and then Leonard Williams,
DeMarcus Lawrence, Byron Murphy. Blitz is here and there from
even worry and Weatherspoon can get to Cousins, who doesn't

(16:21):
nearly escape like the quarterbacks they faced recently, cam Ward
and others. Yeah, just don't let Robinson get going because
the Atlanta's definitely going to try that. Yeah. On the
flip side, we mentioned Minnesota is the number one blitz
team in the NFL. Number two is Atlanta, And we
talk about how many sacks of Seahawks have. They're on
pace for the second most in team history. They've got

(16:42):
forty right now. Atlanta has forty one, fourth third in
the league. In the Seattle's fourth. So pass protection again
is can they get the ball quickly? Look for shorter
routes from Smith and Jigbit than his usual twenty yard
in routes and he's been feasting on all season. Let's
see what adjustments they make to the blitz this time
compared to what the Vikings got him for four sacks

(17:03):
last week. That's a key because this copycat league, they're
going to see a lot of blitzing based on what
Minnesota did. Did that last All right.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well, enjoy Atlanta, enjoy the game tonight. I'll get up
a box of Krispy Kremes when you're Atlanta. You gotta
do that. And uh and we'll chat with you, hopefully
on on Monday. Hopefully you will be traveling. Uh and
we miss you again.

Speaker 6 (17:24):
Yeah, I think they might be. I gotta take those,
especially in December. Else delays, but yeah, no, it's gonna
be hopping the SEC title games going on right when
I land.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, yeah, all right, we'll have that. Enjoy We'll talk
to him soon, all right, Greg bell Our Seahawks inside
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but he's managed it pretty well, kept it on the
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Speaker 7 (20:24):
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issue or an ANDERS issue.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, I know, yeah, yeah, But I'm just saying with
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year effect Creed. I agree, Yeah, and we're in position
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if we do gag this away, and we would have
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Speaker 6 (20:50):
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Speaker 2 (20:50):
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Speaker 3 (20:56):
That is funny.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
There We're four games up on E and I think
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Let's not. I would like to not.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
I was trying to figure out strategy today, like do
I try to go against one of the other shows,
And I was.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
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he gave me a lesson on how to do it.
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(22:34):
way more than you're losing. So you know, when the
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of it.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
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Speaker 2 (22:44):
Right, it's not that embarrassing for the other three shows
to be under five hundred right now. But I am
fun I do think it's funny that you are. It's
not that embarrassing that our win total as a group
is forty six point nine percent to this point of
the season. We've let you down, yea uh. And so
we're the only show that's over five hundred right now.

(23:04):
So not only do I want to win it, I
want to make sure that one of the shows is
above five hundred. Yes, And I won it certainly for
selfish reasons to be us. So we have a chance
to go back to back with the belt, and it
would be the third time. I was trying to remember
how many years we've been doing this. Yeah, I think
it's six to seven, okay, And it's no more than seven,

(23:25):
and it's no fewer than six, okay.

Speaker 7 (23:26):
And I got here September of twenty twenty one, so
this is our my fourth right, So we.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Won the first year that we did this and hadn't
won since since until last year. Okay, But I don't
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back to.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Back, yeah, I remember hearing about that.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, and then uh, and we have a chance to
go back to back. And then Puck and Jim won
because of Gym's heater that one year, like he couldn't
he couldn't pick loser, he couldn't pick a loser. It
was unbelievable. Yeah, so they won one year. I think
maybe Ean won one year. But if not, boy, that's
kind of ibarrassing. So but this would be our third
maybe maybe softing dig of one three, I'm not sure,

(24:05):
but they I know they've not won more than three seasons.
So this would put us. This would put us at
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Speaker 3 (24:14):
Okay, all right? And then how far back was he? Okay?

Speaker 7 (24:17):
So for mee Ian even if he even if you
won out because he's already got one win this week,
but even if he went out, he couldn't catch us.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
I don't think I.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Think he can. Mathematically, yes, I think he can, believe
it or not, but we would have to like literally fall.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah, we'd have to poop the bed.

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Speaker 2 (25:00):
Aar and Ashley. Let's know it, let's finish off the
season with a win.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
I just got very nervous about this. I really don't
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Speaker 2 (25:08):
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Speaker 3 (25:10):
Ugh, yeah, fingers crossed. No one has picked this game.
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Speaker 7 (25:13):
In fact, I think it's the game I'm most excited
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Indiana and Ohio State the Big Ten Championship.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Okay, you're going to the biggie, going.

Speaker 7 (25:23):
To the biggie. I think everyone else has been a
little frightened of it. Nobody really knows what to expect.
I get a little research the other day.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
I'm scared to death of it.

Speaker 7 (25:31):
Yeah, I don't really know what to expect. But here's
what I do think it is not going to be
a route. It is going to be a close game.
And if you're telling me that Indiana's getting five points,
I'm taking it. Okay, give me Iu plus the five
against Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
She's going with signetti. Yep, all right, Ashley's final pick
of the season. Our show's final pick of the season
is going to be Indiana plus five against Ohio State
on a new tree, indeed, in the Big Ten Conference Championship,
to be played tomorrow night at five o'clock. If you

(26:07):
think she's right, this is the one part I can't
wait to be done with explaining these rules. Yeah, do
it every day. If she's right, then you're gonna text her.
If you think she's right, you're gonna text fact. And
I screwed it up on the very last one. You're
gonna text fact to four nine, four or five to one.
If you think she's wrong, Ohio State's gonna blow them out,

(26:28):
You're gonna go ahead and text fiction to four nine, four,
five to one. If you're right, we enter your name
into a drawing for one thousand dollars in cash. It's
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(26:51):
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(27:11):
win by six points or more, your next opportunity to
play Factor Fiction will happen at eleven thirty five this
morning with Mark James and Christopher Kidd, one of the
shows that can't picked one out of two correct.

Speaker 7 (27:28):
Well, and people, if somebody sent in Andrew's prop bets
have actually made me a lot of money, maybe it's
just Factor fiction.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
He's not good at uh heaby Yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
You know what, this is the first opportunity we've had
with our new guy to go head to head against him. Yeah,
and some show apparently would have made you a lot
more money.

Speaker 7 (27:43):
I don't know, I don't know, just saying and also, yeah,
Kid was to blame for a lot of that as well.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Their show was in next show. It's a show. It's
all of them, both of them.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Hold on, I'm the leader.

Speaker 7 (27:53):
Yeah, you're ahead of MJ two and Bucky and Anders.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I've got the best individual ranking. So I don't know
why people are making excuses for these losers around.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
At almost sixty two percent of a winning especially good.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
It's a team award. I talk about team, you want
to make about individuals. Then now we'll go ahead and
raise my hand and say I've been the best.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Yeah, all right, suck it.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Coming up next college football Playoff ranking noise and where
people are way off based Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM. We can't satisfy all the fans out there
with a twelve team format. I don't want to expand
it though not yet. I'd like to kick the tires
on this twelve team format for a little while longer.

(28:34):
I'm just happy we have a college football tournament for
goodness sake, but it's not going to stop the noise. Certainly,
they're going to be a couple of teams more than
a couple that are going to be left out of
the playoff that look like playoff teams have had playoff
caliber seasons this year, and that is unfortunate. But it
doesn't matter how big or sow small you make it,
there's always going to be a couple of people that

(28:56):
have something to say, have a case to be made
that they belong into the tournament. And I'm actually, even
though I've been defending the committee here as of late,
I can't wait to criticize.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
Them on Monday.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
You're really looking forward to it. I hope they do
screw something up because that's great fodder for sports talk radio.
So we'll see, We'll see how it all unfolds. But
I will say this, this is the one loudest argument
that's being made. And Rick new Isl and everybody knows
how much I love Rick new Isel, he said this

(29:29):
earlier in the week. He said, you can't have Notre
Dame over Miami. Yeah, of course you can. I mean,
of course you can. I mean, I get it. I
even heard Bruce Feldman yesterday talking about this, and he's
so angry that how that the committee's just fallen asleep

(29:51):
on this, And he actually used the phrase you can't
not value head to head, right, But It's not the
only thing.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Right, It's a factor when you have all of.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
These teams that have played twelve games and you only
have resumes to go off of and a little bit
of eye test. Well, isn't there an argument to be
made that even though Notre Dame lost to Miami, they
lost on the last play of the game in the

(30:29):
second game of the year, and that that loss doesn't
look as bad as Miami losing to Louisville. Is there
an argument to be made there? I mean, I know
they played head to head and Miami beat Notre Dame,
but in terms of the overall resume is and I
don't want to defend Notre Dame. I'm much rather. I

(30:49):
like Miami a lot more than Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
I wouldn't say a lot more, I do a lot more. Yeah,
but I hate Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
But yeah, don't. I don't ever want to see Notre
Dame have success. No, But just in defense of the
thought that Notre Dame could edge out Miami, I mean,
if you just took away the head to head and
we're not going to but if you took away the
head to head, it's no doubt Notre Dame's two losses
were at the first two games of the year. They

(31:16):
lost on the last two plays of the game. I
believe they were both on the road against two teams
that are currently ranked seventh and tenth in America. Those
are not bad losses. Those are actually, you know, if
there's such a thing good losses. Miami's two losses won
at home against SMU where they got ran off the field,

(31:38):
and the other one was against Louisville, which is not
a bad team. But they're not in this picture, are they,
So you actually Notre Dame's two losses look a lot
better than Miami's two losses, even though one of them
was against Miami. However, obviously the committee can't just ignore

(31:59):
the head to head matchup, and they won't. I mean,
there is a large I mean pay attention. Notre Dame
keeps slipping the more the resumes, the full resumes are
coming together. Notre Dame keeps slipping down, and Miami keeps
slipping up. And they're kind of head to head right
now and neck to neck and trying to determine the

(32:21):
last spot in this playoff. And so if Miami got in, man,
I get everybody's argument for Miami. I get everybody's argument
for the head to head victory that they have over
Notre Dame. But those people that are so angry about it,
Bruce Feldman, I wish you would have directed this anger
back to when we didn't have a tournament, made something happen, Right,

(32:43):
You're more angry about Notre Dame getting in over Miami
than you were that we didn't have a tournament to
begin with.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yeah, that's just stupidity, is the Miami alum.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
I don't know. I don't know that I have no idea,
but I mean Rick new isisal said it too, and
he certainly doesn't have rooting interest one way or the
other with these two teams. But certainly there is a
case that the committee can make I test ten win
game winning streak, all sorts of things. How Notre Dame
gets in over Miami. It's not like they got Notre
Dame third. Yeah, okay, And I think there's a chance

(33:18):
that both get in, and I think there's a chance
that both are out before this is all said and done.
It really hinges on what Alabama does. I mean, if
BYU upsets Texas Tech, does Notre Dame or Miami get
in over Texas Tech or two lost Texas Tech. I

(33:40):
don't think that they will, you know, because they lost
their second game in the conference championship round, which Notre
Dame in Miami didn't even compete in. Yeah, I mean
Miami plays in the worst of the Power for conferences
and didn't even get to the conference championship game. Now,

(34:00):
isn't that an element to consider as you're trying to
like figure out how close these resumes are to one another.
That has to be brought up in the conversation.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, I did answer the question though, he did go
to University of Miami, which now makes sense it.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
It seems comes together.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
It seems to be the root. We talked about this yesterday.
That seems to be the root to all of the
truly angry people.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Look, we've brought it around full circle.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yes, yeah, he's a fan of Miami and he thinks
that they're getting screwed. Well, you should be more professional
than that. And then there's the other thing to consider,
and we'll talk more about this in the Friday O show.
There is a chance that two of the games that
are played tonight that two teams the two winners of

(34:45):
the James Madison Troy game and the North Texas Tulane
game are both getting in the tournament if Duke upsets
Virginia tomorrow night, both of those because they the rule is,
it's not the rule is not an ACC team has
to be represented. The rule is five conference champions have

(35:07):
to be represented in the tournament. If both James Madison
and let's say North Texas over Tulane, but you could
flip flob them if they win tonight. They were both
ranked ahead of Duke Sunday or Tuesday, so they're probably
Duke's lost five games an eight and five. Duke's not

(35:29):
gonna jump either of these teams in the standings, which
means the ACC is completely out potentially, and both James
Madison and Tulane, I'll use the other example this time,
both get in. So if you want to talk about noise,
oh wait till the anger. If that happens with a
Texas and a Vanderbilt and a Miami on the outside

(35:52):
looking in and potentially you know, an Alabama if they
lose to Georgia on the outside looking in, and we're
putting two group of five teams into the twelve precious
twelve team tournament field.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
I'm here for all this chaos.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Oh my gosh. Now, and that's legit. I mean that
those that are gonna be angry about that scenario unfolding, Yeah,
there's some legitimacy to it, and that probably will have
to be tweaked before next year, yeah, because you can't
have that happen again.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
But I really do like the chaos, all right.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
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