December 18, 2025 • 34 mins
Our Gameday show continues as we countdown to tonight’s Thursday night Football matchup! A lot was put on Sam Darnold after the loss the first time these teams met up and rightfully so. Sam took the blame himself, but he can’t come out and play scared and we don’t think he will. He remained confident in game 1 despite 4 interceptions, so if we can just avoid the mistakes under pressure, we have confidence that Sam can get the job done, weather permitting. Yes, the weather can’t be ignored, so it may dictate what both teams can actually do offensively and we sure do hope the Seahawks don’t force the run-game if it isn’t working. :30- MIKE SANDO (The Athletic) What is Mike’s favorite part of this big matchup tonight? Thoughts on Sam Darnold and the rematch between these two teams and how does Mike see the NFC West shaping up? :45- We close out the gameday show with one last thing!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Most Duck fans are Hawk fans.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Yeah, but most most Seahawks fans are not Duck fans.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Don't want duck.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Most Seahawks fans are not Duck fans.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Seattle fans are bigger than Seattle.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Right, No, I understand that, But I'm saying most Seahawks
fans are not Duck fans. It's not the majority of
that are Nuck fans.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
But like most of most of them are not Husky
fans either.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, I'm not saying they are, but if they uniforms
that look like Huskies, that would be weird too.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I'm just saying that the hate for the duck connection
is that's just kind of here. That's a husky thing. Yeah,
it's a husky problem.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I don't think anybody's gonna like these uniforms tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I just I just think they It's it's one thing
to look like duck uniforms, but they look like college uniforms.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
That's what I don't like that either. I don't I
don't think I want my NFL team even look like
any college. I don't want them to have Penn State uniforms.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Where are your glorious throwbacks and call it a day.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, exactly, got the best on the sport right now.
And we're gonna wear Duck UNI literally like a carbon
copy yep of the uniform. I picture Bo Nick's wearing
correct at Oregon. That's the one I picture him in.
Ye when I think of you know, picture Bo Nicks
at Oregon, it's in that uniform. Yeah, yeah, and that's
what we're wearing.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
The poop splatter.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I'll get over it. It's a great game. Not gonna
dwell on it, not going to fixate on it. As
a matter of fact, I keep smelling the aroma of
pipe smoke. Bucky can't smell anything right now? Are you
smelling that you're not smelling? And I'm sure no one's
smoking a pipe. I'm sure there's a perfectly good explanation.
But I keep smoking here and smelling this smell of
a pipe, which I don't like the smell of a cigar,
(01:40):
and I don't certainly don't like the smell of a cigarette.
But I really do.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Love this story.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Now I think I'm making myself think I can smell
the smell of a pipe.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And I'm thinking, here's what I'm thinking. They've already got
the victory cigar. Everybody under the age of thirty thinks
Joe Burrow invented it. Everyone under the age of forty
thinks Michael Jordan invented the vic terise cigar. Anyone over
forty knows. Red hour Bock did it long before either
one of those, and did it every single game. But
the victory cigar has been played out now in like
(02:10):
four different generations. Nobody does the victory pipe. Oh yeah,
what do you think about it? I've never smoked anything
in my entire life. I never smoked anything in my
entire life. Should I get a Should I start smoking
a victory pipe? After big wins here and see yat,
what do you think?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I know what your Christmas gift is now.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
You should at least have to do it in the
linter like Frosty the Snowman just football season.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe maybe it's one of those
big giant ones, you know, like the big massive ones.
I don't even know what they're called. Well, it looks
like a saxophone and then it comes up there. Maybe
I get one of those and you.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Know, walk around your talk with it. It's just stuck
between your teeth. You kind of talk a little different.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Nobody does the victory pipe.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
You got to hear the little click as it like
hits your teeth ut back in your mouth.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
It's essential. Yeah, idea. One of my best friends growing up,
Gary Boker, his dad Gary Boker, he had a pipe,
and man, that was part of the joy of going
over there. He's watching mister Boker crack out his pipe
while he's watching the Cubs game talking to you.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yep, I like that, And I.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Get everybody who had one kind of has to sound
like Humphrey Bogart when they talk.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Really, I don't remember Humphrey Bogart smoking pipe, but like
you kind of have that. Oh, you just got to
have that twain to you.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You got to like and you've got to think a lot.
You gotta put it in your mouth to think, and
then you got to take it out to speak, and
then you got to think again.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, do you think the way you hold it and
then click it back in your teeth.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
H I don't know. I just don't see a lot
of people lighting a victory pipe. And if somebody wants
to steal this idea, because I don't know if I'm
going to do it, run with it.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I think you have to do it.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I would love to see on social media tonight fifty
different people smoking a victory I don't have any pipe tobacco,
but I mean I could make you a pipe out
of a can soda can out there.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I can make you win a tinfoil.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I'm going to run a classy operation around here, even
if it's a corn cob pipe.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Peper, You've never smoked out of doctor pepper can.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I've never smoked anything.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well, knock it till you try it.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, I didn't even smoke meats. I mean I've never
done that. I've had them, but oh I know I've
eaten them, eat the hell out of them. But anyway,
maybe a victory pipe something to put on the Socialist
for this year. Uh well, look, we just had our
roundtable conversation. I mean we've had we talked about this
game all day long. I think that there is room
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in that hour long conversation for two rights on a
on a different level number one like Donald's number of interceptions.
What Greg was saying, I think was you just can't
have minus two or more in the turnover ratio tonight.
You can't be solely responsible for that. On your statistics line.
(04:56):
I think that's probably true. I think that you know
you certainly can't turn the ball over four times like
you did the last time. But I also think Hughes right.
We have fourteen games of Sam Donald in a Seahawk uniform,
and he's really just had one of those games, and
it just came at the wrong time against the wrong team.
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I don't want to change anything the way Sam Donald plays,
As Mike McDonald has said numerous times, let it rip.
We want him to let it rip. I can live
perfectly fine with minus one on Sam Donald's turnover ratio
compared to Matt Stafford. I could even live with minus two,
I think, because I don't want it to affect how
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aggressive he's been. He's played so confidently all year long. Man,
when this team is struggling, all of a sudden, Sam
Donald just like enters his own I want him dropping
back and letting that sucker fly. And if I gotta,
I can't go. I can't go minus three. We're not
gonna win against the Rams with a minus three turnover
ratio tonight. But I certainly can live with minus one.
(06:03):
I don't have any problem with that. As long as
Sam's playing confidently and playing the brand of football we've
watched him play for fourteen games in a Sea York uniform,
I think we might even be able to get away
with a minus two. And I would much rather have
a minus two than I would watch Sam Donald come
out here and play conservatively because he's thinking about the
four turnovers he made the previous time they played.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yeah, well, you can't go play scared period. I mean
you can't. You can't do any sport and do it
playing scared and being quarterback in a big game like this.
I mean there's a lot that goes into all of
the variables outside right, I mean him, he's had a
good year this year.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
They have a good team, the record.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Has been well, and yet you have a hard time
so far overcoming this hump with Rams.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Even if you out played him in the first time.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Or you know them and the Niners, there still is
that kind of there.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
They're the ones that have given.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
You wedgies more so over the last few years than
vice versa, and you have to kind of reverse that
trend to some degree. I think that there's just something
too big games. We got to see them rise to
the occasion, and that is gonna come from ripping it.
I don't know for sure if I feel as strongly
about whether or not it's multiple turnovers. Obviously four turnovers
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does not help your chances. But they still almost won, right,
and they still come down to it. I would just
say it's the opportunity, and so if the elements are
part of it, wind is a part of it, and
so you're gonna let it rip. There's the idea of
I'm gonna fit it in that window. And if I miss,
I'm missing to the away from danger side of things.
Right If I if I don't know what the wind's
gonna do to the ball, maybe I am taking a
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couple more checkdowns. Maybe I am audible into some more runs.
In certain situations, it's just when you're backed up against
your own goal line, or when you already feel that
you're close enough that you have points on.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
The board, don't get too terribly crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Try to rip one in there, or try to you know,
find you know you can go ahead and squeeze into
a tight spot. But let's not have those big turnovers.
I mean, last year against the Rams, there was a
game that Gino they basically out played. I mean McDonald
had out schemed McVeigh that chess match, which is the
most intriguing part of it. He had done his part,
and then Gino threw like a pick six and threw
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another interception down when they were getting ready to score
a touchdown or put points on the board. You just
got to have you can't miss opportunities, and yet you
have to take advantage of certain opportunities. And if that
means from time to time putting the ball at risk
when you're somewhere in the middle of the field, that's.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So be it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I think too. You know, a difference is that now
our defense has started to get more turnovers, so you know,
if you do see some turnovers from Sam, you're going
to have to also rely on the defense to step
up and enforce those turnovers themselves. Because we had one
right in our favor when we played the Rams last time,
and our turnover differential I think was like minus eight
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or something just six weeks ago, and now we're minus one.
So our defense has really been stepping up and getting
the ball, and I think if you can do that.
Coming out of that Rams game, we kept talking about
how the positive thing to fight all those turnovers. Was
that Sam never changed what he was doing. Yeah, and
so I don't think he's gonna come out and play
(09:07):
scared or be worried or anything, because it just doesn't
seem to be his style.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, And I think that's what I'm emphasizing. In sure,
you might have to adjust to the weather. I mean,
I guess we'll know later on tonight how that's going
to impact the game. If there's a crosswind at all,
that certainly is going to affect the passing game, as
you pointed out, as long as it's at your back,
or you can drive the ball through a wind, and
you can certainly use it at your back, even though
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that can be dangerous at times as well. So I'm
not just I'm just not going to speak to how
the wind is going to impact tonight's throws. If it's terrible,
then you do have to adjust, and you probably do
have to get a little bit more conservative. But I
certainly want the mindset and I would have wanted it
all week and Sam's head. If I'm Mike McDonald, I'm
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making sure that it's like we have complete faith in you,
Like you know, there's no talk about hey, Sam, we
can't have four t turnovers.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
It is right.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Let it rips on. Go out there and play the
way you've played all season long, because we've benefited it
from it, ah hell of a lot more than it's
cost us throughout fourteen games this football season.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, and Hughes documented that, I mean basically all season
long of even when people want to bring up the
easiest stat the turnovers, and it came up huge after
the four turnover of the four interception game against these
guys last time that he was like, Yeah, but they're
explosive and the big throws and all these things that
come from the chance that you put the ball in
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the air and that there is an inherent danger that
comes with that.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You just can't make the crucial ones.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
And obviously you can't let them accumulate over a game
because then you're losing possessions which you're not going to
score any points and giving them short fields like they
did in the first matchup. So, I mean, I'm with you.
I think the idea if if just weather is a
moot point, which I don't think it's going to be,
but if it is, the idea should be. We believe you,
We're not worried about you not rising to the occasion
(11:04):
in a big game. That was a big game against
them the first time you played, and you threw the
ball to them.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
But we don't think that's who you are.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
We don't think you just can't do anything but throw
it to the wrong team against the Rams.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
We think you are.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
We more so to take the amount of data that
we have on the other what would it be, thirteen
games that you've played that have been really good for
the most part, We're going to take that as that's
who you are. And that was just that one was
kind of an outlier. So go out there and do
what you gotta do and take the team where they
need to.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Go and for the last hour. I think there's two
rights about this as well. I mean, it sounds like
you and I are on the same page of like,
I don't want to spend the whole game, Ashley's on
this page trying to establish the run.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
We don't do it well, right.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
But whether could dictate that you might have to adjust
to that. And I think Greg is right. I think
huge right, because he and I see the same I
think huge. I think his analysis is right, and I
think Greg's probably right with his intimate knowledge of Mike McDonald,
which is greater than ours. They probably are going to
spend two plus quarters trying to establish the run. They
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want eleven games out of fourteen. You know, maybe part
of Sam Darnold's effectiveness has been because defenses have to
focus so much on how often this team tries to
run the football. My guess is Clint Kubiak is going
to bang his head against the wall tonight trying to
establish the run, and if there's weather, they're even going
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to be more convicted to it. I just don't want
to see it now. Again, weather changes that potentially, but
I don't want to get to the game of the
year and just be hell bent on proving to the
arguably the best team in the National Football League. We
could run against you. No, if I'm going to lose,
I'm gonna lose doing what we do best. That's how
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that would be my mentality.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
And I like that mentality because it's at this point.
You know, we've talked about the entire season what they
are here. At this point, you kind of know what
you are, and they struggle the football. It's not that
you can't, you're just not very efficient at it. You
don't you try it as much, if not more than
everybody else, and your efficiency at it is worse than
just about everybody else.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
So don't pound your head against the wall.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
It doesn't mean don't keep doing it, because somehow that
recipe has turned into eleven victories. So I'm not saying
abandon it. Just don't marry yourself solely to it. And
don't think that it has to be some fifty to
fifty split. But I do think that you know there's
going to be times. I mean the idea of regardless
of how the wind's blowing. When Hughes starts talking about
I couldn't throw outside the numbers because even if the
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wind is blown directly from the south to the north,
when you throw to the sideline, it's just it's hitting
the side of the ball, right, I mean, the only
time you're basically thrown right with the wind is it's
going to be rare.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
So to me, I think it is going to affect it.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
And yet even what the wind it is bad is
at your back. That's prime recipe for overthrows.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, well then you got it.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
That's an interception. The overthrows lead to the interceptions. That's
safeties who aren't even who aren't even playing the ball
will end up with picks that way. So it's gonna
be it's gonna impact. I just I'm hoping that we're around,
you know, twelve to fifteen and not eighteen to twenty five.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, for wins, for wins, Yeah, that makes a big difference.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah yeah, and so h yeah. So and then the
other thing is the Adams cross effect. It looks like
both of these teams are going to be without valuable
players tonight. And I'm with Hugh on this one as well,
Like I don't we haven't seen a lot of Josh Jones.
But for whatever reason, I got faith they Rams don't
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have anybody that can be Devonte Adams. Well, there's no
there's nobody like two to two at Well cannot be
Davante Adams. A third tight end on the field can't
be Davonte Adams. I mean, they can be effective in
their own way. I mean that's pretty obvious. They're a
very good football team, maybe even a great football team.
But I think we got a better chance of sir,
(15:03):
you know, not feeling the effect of Cross being out than.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
They have of Adams being out. Maybe that's just wishful
thinking on my point. Well, no, I there's a chance
that that's the case. I mean, one is a playmaker,
one is thing somebody that breaks the game open. The
other one is where it's like, I.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Need consistency for you to not just get run over
and let people be free runners at our quarterback because
that can turn into allowing someone on their team to
be a game wrecker or a game changer. I do
think that if the wind is an issue, I do
think that Kobe Parkinson has been kind of showing out now.
He's got like six touchdowns last six games. His biggest
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game he's had so far was last week. The worst
game that he's had in that little stretch was against
Seattle and he had two catches. He was only thrown
two twice, and one of them was a touchdown. But
I will be curious to see if that's an EMN
worry project it was to some degree in the first matchup.
If it's you shut that guy down because six seven
two sixty five is a thing that you can box
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people out right. If they do end up going with
some thirteen personnel to run and then they pass off
of that, you don't have to make real long throws
and you can still end up moving the change. I
think there's the chess match between McDonald and McVeigh that
I mean the other side of the ball. Obviously, Clint
Kubiak against their defensive scheme is just as important. But
the one between the McVeigh and McDonald boyle boy, is
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that going to be crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
It's gonna be MC fantastic can make delicious and we're
gonna make win.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
It, Mr Victory, and.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
We're gonna make cover. We went from a point and
a half dog to a point and a half favorite
for this game. So really, who knows how that gets
adjusted between uh last night now and the start of
the game, because smart money always usually comes into the
very end. But yeah, it seems there'd be a ground
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swell what it is, ground swell of.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Support the ground swells.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Mcground swell behind the see all.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That and some fries, maybe a couple of nuggets.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Mcground swell was the worst sandwich idea ever came up? Yeah, yeah, no,
it tastes like dirt. Yeah, mcgroundswell didn't. People didn't really
get it too earthy.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, I wouldn't get it.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
What they were doing. I'll tell you this though, there
are a lot of things we don't know about this matchup.
We don't know how the weather's going to affect it.
There are a lot of things we cannot control. What
we can control is the birth of the victory pipe.
So let's go.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Let's go get it the holiday season. We're ready for
a victory.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
No more I think about it. I want one of
them Sherlock home suckers. You know that you got to
put your hand inside the mouth just to light the
you know, the weed. What is it called tobacco?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Tobacco?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, just tobacco.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Okay, you're thinking of Mike sand O. Next, we'll get
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How can you not talk to your NFL insider on
(18:12):
game day, the game of the year. Mike Sando now
joins us here on Chuck and Buck. How fired up
are you and the Sando household for this one?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Sir?
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Extremely fouled up, fired up, filed up, fired up.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
Everybody. Yeah, I mean everybody's fired up.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Our you know, our dog Joel whose neat appearances on the.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
Show, is fired up. The other day.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
He was so fired up the other day that he
got he met the FedEx driver and he ran into
his truck. Okay, he just wanted to get on his
route and.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Like ran inside of it or ran into the side.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Of it, into the No, he goes and hops in.
You know, he was like, hey, I'm ready to go,
and so he's ready to go. Everyone's ready to go,
all right.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
What's your favorite part of this matchup? The playoff puzzled,
the Donald versus Stafford, the McDonald versus McVeigh, what's the
what's the favorite part of our favorite matchup of the year.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
So the favorite part of it big picture is definitely
McDonald against McVeigh and how Mike McDonald has sort of
turned the tables and he's got to he's doing better
against McVeigh than anybody, right, It's awesome. That's why one
of the reasons you hired him. I think though the
big storyline up like the week is Donald related, just
because a Seahawks are going to be in the playoffs,
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you know, he didn't do well late last year. He
had the four pick game against him last time. I
think that's probably the bigger story of the day, Right,
it's just what Donald does, can you you know, limit
the turnovers? And if they lose, is he not really
the reason why? I think that type of stuff is
going to get the headlines right. And then you know,
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the third thing will be, hey, these guys are gonna
play again, right, I think that's going to be the
third thing. Especially if Seattle wins, it'll be hey, it's
even these guys, this is and over, they're going to
play again. So those are the three storylines in order
probably for me.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah, where what kind of advantage? Who gets the advantage
in the chess match? That is the McVeigh versus McDonald situation.
If there's really heavy wins.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Well McDonald, I mean, it just becomes harder to throw
the ball for both offenses.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Right.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
It was already hard for the Rams offense without I
don't even think they turned it over, and it was
hard for them playing in the great conditions of their
home stadium where any offense would want to play, you know.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
So to me.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
That that's a huge X factor with the wind we've
obviously had. I mean yesterday morning, I was had a
saw out in the backyard. We had tree branches down
on the fence. I mean it was like it looked
like a it looked like a you know, if I
tell you this, I was walking my dog yesterday.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
You might have I might have mentioned I had a dog.
I don't know I mentioned that, Joel.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
But there was a there was a trampoline had blown
out of somebody's yard, like we're in Tennessee or something,
and it was like lying it was across the street,
like lying over the path that I walk on. I've
never ever seen a trampoline.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, actually, yeah, I haven't seen one fly around here.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
You know, I've never walked into a trampoline. And so
that type of wind stuff definitely favors the defensive play color.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Was Joel still effective at his out routes though, and the.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Joel h yeah, Joel was.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
I had to clean up for Joel on the sidewalk.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
It was at embarrassing that kind of out route.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's doing okay. He was a little
concerned though, having to walk around it was a new thing.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Mike Sander was with us our NFL Insider Getting you
ready for Thursday night football. Seahawks versus Rams, bigger loss,
Davante Adams from the Rams offense, Charles Cross from the
Seahawks O line. M.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
I'm gonna say probably that's a tough one. I guess
I'll say Cross just because I'll say Cross. I'm torn
on it because I think the Seahawks style of play
may not put a lot of pressure on the tackles.
They threw the ball super short when they played the
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Rams last time. In fact, their average air yards on
a pass was like two something. It was by far
the lowest of any of their games. So I think
they may be getting more conservative on offense anyway, and
sort of mitigating the turnover risks, which could diminish how
much the Cross injury matters. I do think, though, if
Seattle gets in a situation where they have to throw
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the ball if they were behind or something, then I
think that really becomes the bigger injury of the two.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
There's been a lot of talk leading up to this
game about the McVeigh and how much he's using the
thirteen personnel. If all of a sudden, Devontae Adams is out,
I would assume that they do that a little bit more.
They can run and pass off of it. I just
mentioned our last segment. Kobe Parkinson kind of had his
best game last week. Every a round here knows him,
but he never did turn into any think that the
(23:00):
last five or six games they've started using him more
as a weapon, even when DeVante Adams was in there.
Is that something that plays into the game plan against
the Seahawks defense.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Or no, no doubt, Yeah it does. And but Seattle's
defense with nickim Me and Wory has the ability to
be versatile enough to do well against that three tight
end package. And if you look at the output for
the Rams this season in their three tight end package,
the Seahawks defended it by far the best of anyone
in the league. I don't think it was as many
plays in that game as it may be in this one.
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But that's kind of a nice little sub part of
the chess match. Does McVeigh deviate from that little because
Seattle does defend it well, Do they try to do
it anyway? Do they have more success with it? You
mentioned Parkinson. We also have to think of Julian Love
as back at safety. I believe he missed the first
Ram game, right, I believe so.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Yes, So you're gonna have Julian Love in there.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
You've got probably just a healthier, fuller fledged, a more
mature Nicki min Worriy who's lining up all over the
place and really is on a short list of five
or six players in the league with Kyle Hamilton a
couple of others who can really affect the game in
a lot of different ways. So I'm going to say
it's a good matchup for Seattle.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah, for sure? Did he for sure? Did no question
about it. Mike Sando is with us, and you are
our NFL insider, and yet you used to cover the
Seahawks and you still live in the area, so you
are our conduit to this national you know narrative about
the Seattle Seahawks. I think that you know better. But
(24:34):
I just even if Sam struggles, I just don't want
to hear afterwards he can't win the big game, because
I think the Seahawks got a winner here in Sam Donald.
And I know that you know how well he's played
all season long, And just because he turns the ball
over against the Rams potentially for a couple of games,
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is that really going to stain Sam Donald season in
your estimation.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Yes, if it's the reason why they don't advance in
the playoffs, And I think this is a team that,
you know, depending on where I think this team, If
this team doesn't win a playoff game, I think then
those narratives matter more and become part of the conversation legitimately.
I think if they were to win in the playoffs,
even just one playoff win, I think then there's some
(25:22):
of that is exercised. Right, Hey, you want a playoff
game with Darnold and yeah, yeah, he's had a couple
of bad games here there. And the turnover thing is real.
They've they've had more turnovers than they want, and I
think I have felt like recently they've sort of tried
to avoid them, maybe become a little bit more conservative
in some of their ways, you know. So we'll see
if that holds up. But I do think it's a
legitimate narrative on the table if it's a factor.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
All Right, who finishes first, second, and third in the
NFC West.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
I'm going to go ram Seahawks forty nine ers.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
So you got a loss tonight? You got a Seahawk loss, tonight.
But if they win the game, that you think they
win the division for sure? No, not for sure, not
for sure. Okay, all right, Rams.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
And I think the Rams are a little bit of
the better team just because their offense is so much
better than Seattle's offense. I think that, you know, we
need to see more from the offense, and so if
they win tonight, hey maybe we we reassessed, but I
kind of want to see the offense do better.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
What a great time of the year from Mike Sandy
got this great Thursday night game. Saturday Football starts this weekend.
I mean, you're just living large right now.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Saturday Football.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Love it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
You got Joel to hang out with, Joel.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
To hang out with.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Yeah, it's great having an eighty pound dog, ninety pound
dog just jump up on you when you're on the
couch and just knock your glasses off because he thinks
he's a laptog.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
It was really fun.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Bucky and I are going to introduce the victory pipe.
Yeah here this week. That's something that you're in a
lot of people have done the victory cigar, but Bucky
and I are sold on the victory pipe idea.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
I've never been a smoker, but I've always loved the
smell of pipe smoke. Yeah, Like my dad had a pipe,
you know, and my dad was like when when I
was born, like he was trying to quit smoking, but
then we'd catch him like sneaking, you know, you like
have his little stash on the side. But like a
pipe to me always smelled a great. Cigarettes smell like
crap after the first puff. The first puff is stice
and sweet smelling, but then they smell like crap. Yeah,
(27:16):
and to me, the pipe, Yeah, if I was to
smoke anything, yeah, like I don't even think of cigar smells.
I think scarsmells bad. Pipe kind of smells like like
it's just like a special kind of herbal tea or
something that intaw or something. Yeah, exactly. So maybe I'll
just have ask people to smoke pipes around me, you know.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
I kind of like to smell. I don't know what
I actually want to do that.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
All right, Well we're still were at the beginning stages
of this club. Yeah, we'll let you know. We'll send
you a newsletter, all right, Mike, enjoy the game tonight,
Thanks as always, and can't wait to talk to you
next week.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Sounds good. Man, I always love it.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
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Speaker 1 (28:11):
It's called the game day horn. Right there, we're going
to bring in my actual horn, Viking horn.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Call Hunts all right. One last thing next Sports Radio
ninety three point three KJRM all right, final segment of
the radio program here on Game Day. Of course, we'll
be getting you ready all day long. Just keep it
here at KJA are all four shows, so we'll count
it all the way up there and game tonight at
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five fifteen. But one last thing, no rules, one last thing,
go wherever you want. That's the way we do things
around these here parts. What do you got, buddy?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Well, right now, I didn't want to just get this
over with so I can get back to shopping for
a pipe.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Although I don't do anything.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I think it's happening Sea show promo.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Yeah, I'm I might wait, tell I tell my wife, Hey,
I a last minute Christmas gift this pipe or I
might just leave here right now and head to a
tobacco pipe shop and buy one.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I think weed shot.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
No, no, actually, tobacco pipe shot.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I's just kidding, I do kind of.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I bet they have weed pipes there too.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, I was just joking because.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Of the Yeah, I like the Gandolf one where it's
like the real long. Yeah, they like the Gandolf one.
I like that idea for you. I also like the
Christoph Waltz one and the Glorious Bastards, the big yellow
one like looks like a mini saxophone, kind of like
that one for you too. What are you leaning towards?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
The Longer Wizard ones, the Lord of the Rings ones
I've already looked at. They're they're a bit dainty. It's
really thin, yeah, you know, and the like long I
like the idea of it being, but it's you have
to have to be a little bit more girdthing. I
don't want to have to be like, I don't want
a fragile one.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
You know, something to junk and it's trunk.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then the one from Gloria's it's
a bit phallic looking.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
It's a bit oh really Yeah, it's a bit kind
of like it's I don't want one that's that size. Okay, Okay,
it's so I don't know. I mean there, maybe I
can't go get one just right now. It might be
to too many things to try to determine and find
the right kind of tobacco smells good. You got to
get a pouch thing to hold it in, and then
and then your tobacco in it, and then pipe cleaners
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and a little stand.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Then we got to figure out too, would you be
lighting that for Seahawks victories or only Broncos and Ducks.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Victory things that I celebrate?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, so then yeah, you wouldn't really you can you
can't really be.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Part of the club.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
There's a lot of times that I am. I'm happy
about a Seahawks victory. Anytime you play an AFC team,
I'm pumped about it.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Okay, it's safe for Bucky victories. Whatever buys a victory,
each his own victory pipe on Fridays.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
The week is over and we survived.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Light it up right out here.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
We got through a Booze News victory victory. Was that
going to be your one last thing?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
No?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
It is now, I guess I mean I was gonna dude.
I mentioned it to Ashley yesterday. Have you seen the
General Kirby Moore Twitter account yet?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I have not read it, but I am aware of
and it's playing off the Andrew.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Lock Yes, and it's funny. Okay, it is funny. He's
already I don't know who it is, but good work.
It's it's already been taken. But I think there's room
out there for some other onands. And they playing off
of the fact that there's a.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Chance we might know him.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'm actually not one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
My thought was it might be Jim.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Moore, No, Jim not clever enough, might be Pucket.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. Whoever. It is,
good on you because it's some funny. It makes me.
It makes me giggle when I.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Read somebody writing a letter old Timy about the you know,
the Crimson Gray flag ripping wind.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
It's like, okay, yeah, the Captain Andrew Luck was great,
but it is a knockoff. Yeah, we'll see see if
you can match it. Yeah, longevity is the key, It's true.
All right, Ashley, what do you got for one last thing?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Well, we talked about this yesterday and I'm bringing it
up again because it's a big game, right. We all agree,
everyone says big game. So how do you celebrate a
big game if you are at the stadium victory? Yell
your ass off? Okay, And we have talked about I
was there Sunday. It felt loud, but the decibel showed
one eleven. I don't know how accurate that is or
what they're really measuring, but all I know is that
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that stadium has been at one thirty seven before, and
I want it to be closer to that than one
eleven tonight. Damn it.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I've never experienced a fan base that loves making noise
more than a Seattle sports fance. Yeah. And you heard
it at the during the playoffs Baseball playoffs, yep. And
you hear it at every Seahawk game. And now for
this game, I don't think you got anything to worry about.
And it's not like Rams fans travel no, I would
(33:05):
hope not. Yeah, it's gonna be all Seahawks fans, and
I think it's gonna be the loudest it's been an
all wat It better.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Be, That's what I'm saying. It's just gotta live up
to the moment. That's all I want. You know, If
you don't hit one hundred and thirty seven, that's fine.
I think it was a playoff game, but you gotta
step up for the moment.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah. Yeah, And I'll close out with this. I just
I think it's a win. I think we're gonna get
a win here tonight. I think we outplay them the
first time and lost that game. I don't see a
minus three turnover game for the Seahawks. Maybe they do
turn it over more than what the Rams do. But
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I'm thinking that we're gonna be happy tomorrow morning, and
I think we're gonna win by twenty four to seventeen.
That is gonna be my election for this evening's game.
So let's get it on. Like I said, we're just
at nine fifty three this morning. We I mean, we
got seven plus hours to talk about it here on
cage and countdown the seconds to tonight's game. And of
(34:02):
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Speaker 2 (34:45):
There's an accident in Seattle.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
This is South und I five and the express links
at the ship Canal bridge back to just blocking in
the
Most Duck fans are Hawk fans.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Yeah, but most most Seahawks fans are not Duck fans.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Don't want duck.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Most Seahawks fans are not Duck fans.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Seattle fans are bigger than Seattle.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Right, No, I understand that, But I'm saying most Seahawks
fans are not Duck fans. It's not the majority of
that are Nuck fans.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
But like most of most of them are not Husky
fans either.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, I'm not saying they are, but if they uniforms
that look like Huskies, that would be weird too.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I'm just saying that the hate for the duck connection
is that's just kind of here. That's a husky thing. Yeah,
it's a husky problem.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I don't think anybody's gonna like these uniforms tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I just I just think they It's it's one thing
to look like duck uniforms, but they look like college uniforms.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
That's what I don't like that either. I don't I
don't think I want my NFL team even look like
any college. I don't want them to have Penn State uniforms.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Where are your glorious throwbacks and call it a day.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, exactly, got the best on the sport right now.
And we're gonna wear Duck UNI literally like a carbon
copy yep of the uniform. I picture Bo Nick's wearing
correct at Oregon. That's the one I picture him in.
Ye when I think of you know, picture Bo Nicks
at Oregon, it's in that uniform. Yeah, yeah, and that's
what we're wearing.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
The poop splatter.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I'll get over it. It's a great game. Not gonna
dwell on it, not going to fixate on it. As
a matter of fact, I keep smelling the aroma of
pipe smoke. Bucky can't smell anything right now? Are you
smelling that you're not smelling? And I'm sure no one's
smoking a pipe. I'm sure there's a perfectly good explanation.
But I keep smoking here and smelling this smell of
a pipe, which I don't like the smell of a cigar,
(01:40):
and I don't certainly don't like the smell of a cigarette.
But I really do.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Love this story.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Now I think I'm making myself think I can smell
the smell of a pipe.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And I'm thinking, here's what I'm thinking. They've already got
the victory cigar. Everybody under the age of thirty thinks
Joe Burrow invented it. Everyone under the age of forty
thinks Michael Jordan invented the vic terise cigar. Anyone over
forty knows. Red hour Bock did it long before either
one of those, and did it every single game. But
the victory cigar has been played out now in like
(02:10):
four different generations. Nobody does the victory pipe. Oh yeah,
what do you think about it? I've never smoked anything
in my entire life. I never smoked anything in my
entire life. Should I get a Should I start smoking
a victory pipe? After big wins here and see yat,
what do you think?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I know what your Christmas gift is now.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
You should at least have to do it in the
linter like Frosty the Snowman just football season.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe maybe it's one of those
big giant ones, you know, like the big massive ones.
I don't even know what they're called. Well, it looks
like a saxophone and then it comes up there. Maybe
I get one of those and you.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Know, walk around your talk with it. It's just stuck
between your teeth. You kind of talk a little different.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Nobody does the victory pipe.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
You got to hear the little click as it like
hits your teeth ut back in your mouth.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
It's essential. Yeah, idea. One of my best friends growing up,
Gary Boker, his dad Gary Boker, he had a pipe,
and man, that was part of the joy of going
over there. He's watching mister Boker crack out his pipe
while he's watching the Cubs game talking to you.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yep, I like that, And I.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Get everybody who had one kind of has to sound
like Humphrey Bogart when they talk.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Really, I don't remember Humphrey Bogart smoking pipe, but like
you kind of have that. Oh, you just got to
have that twain to you.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You got to like and you've got to think a lot.
You gotta put it in your mouth to think, and
then you got to take it out to speak, and
then you got to think again.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, do you think the way you hold it and
then click it back in your teeth.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
H I don't know. I just don't see a lot
of people lighting a victory pipe. And if somebody wants
to steal this idea, because I don't know if I'm
going to do it, run with it.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I think you have to do it.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I would love to see on social media tonight fifty
different people smoking a victory I don't have any pipe tobacco,
but I mean I could make you a pipe out
of a can soda can out there.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I can make you win a tinfoil.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I'm going to run a classy operation around here, even
if it's a corn cob pipe.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Peper, You've never smoked out of doctor pepper can.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I've never smoked anything.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well, knock it till you try it.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, I didn't even smoke meats. I mean I've never
done that. I've had them, but oh I know I've
eaten them, eat the hell out of them. But anyway,
maybe a victory pipe something to put on the Socialist
for this year. Uh well, look, we just had our
roundtable conversation. I mean we've had we talked about this
game all day long. I think that there is room
(04:32):
in that hour long conversation for two rights on a
on a different level number one like Donald's number of interceptions.
What Greg was saying, I think was you just can't
have minus two or more in the turnover ratio tonight.
You can't be solely responsible for that. On your statistics line.
(04:56):
I think that's probably true. I think that you know
you certainly can't turn the ball over four times like
you did the last time. But I also think Hughes right.
We have fourteen games of Sam Donald in a Seahawk uniform,
and he's really just had one of those games, and
it just came at the wrong time against the wrong team.
(05:18):
I don't want to change anything the way Sam Donald plays,
As Mike McDonald has said numerous times, let it rip.
We want him to let it rip. I can live
perfectly fine with minus one on Sam Donald's turnover ratio
compared to Matt Stafford. I could even live with minus two,
I think, because I don't want it to affect how
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aggressive he's been. He's played so confidently all year long. Man,
when this team is struggling, all of a sudden, Sam
Donald just like enters his own I want him dropping
back and letting that sucker fly. And if I gotta,
I can't go. I can't go minus three. We're not
gonna win against the Rams with a minus three turnover
ratio tonight. But I certainly can live with minus one.
(06:03):
I don't have any problem with that. As long as
Sam's playing confidently and playing the brand of football we've
watched him play for fourteen games in a Sea York uniform,
I think we might even be able to get away
with a minus two. And I would much rather have
a minus two than I would watch Sam Donald come
out here and play conservatively because he's thinking about the
four turnovers he made the previous time they played.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yeah, well, you can't go play scared period. I mean
you can't. You can't do any sport and do it
playing scared and being quarterback in a big game like this.
I mean there's a lot that goes into all of
the variables outside right, I mean him, he's had a
good year this year.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
They have a good team, the record.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Has been well, and yet you have a hard time
so far overcoming this hump with Rams.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Even if you out played him in the first time.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Or you know them and the Niners, there still is
that kind of there.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
They're the ones that have given.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
You wedgies more so over the last few years than
vice versa, and you have to kind of reverse that
trend to some degree. I think that there's just something
too big games. We got to see them rise to
the occasion, and that is gonna come from ripping it.
I don't know for sure if I feel as strongly
about whether or not it's multiple turnovers. Obviously four turnovers
(07:15):
does not help your chances. But they still almost won, right,
and they still come down to it. I would just
say it's the opportunity, and so if the elements are
part of it, wind is a part of it, and
so you're gonna let it rip. There's the idea of
I'm gonna fit it in that window. And if I miss,
I'm missing to the away from danger side of things.
Right If I if I don't know what the wind's
gonna do to the ball, maybe I am taking a
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couple more checkdowns. Maybe I am audible into some more runs.
In certain situations, it's just when you're backed up against
your own goal line, or when you already feel that
you're close enough that you have points on.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
The board, don't get too terribly crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Try to rip one in there, or try to you know,
find you know you can go ahead and squeeze into
a tight spot. But let's not have those big turnovers.
I mean, last year against the Rams, there was a
game that Gino they basically out played. I mean McDonald
had out schemed McVeigh that chess match, which is the
most intriguing part of it. He had done his part,
and then Gino threw like a pick six and threw
(08:10):
another interception down when they were getting ready to score
a touchdown or put points on the board. You just
got to have you can't miss opportunities, and yet you
have to take advantage of certain opportunities. And if that
means from time to time putting the ball at risk
when you're somewhere in the middle of the field, that's.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So be it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I think too. You know, a difference is that now
our defense has started to get more turnovers, so you know,
if you do see some turnovers from Sam, you're going
to have to also rely on the defense to step
up and enforce those turnovers themselves. Because we had one
right in our favor when we played the Rams last time,
and our turnover differential I think was like minus eight
(08:47):
or something just six weeks ago, and now we're minus one.
So our defense has really been stepping up and getting
the ball, and I think if you can do that.
Coming out of that Rams game, we kept talking about
how the positive thing to fight all those turnovers. Was
that Sam never changed what he was doing. Yeah, and
so I don't think he's gonna come out and play
(09:07):
scared or be worried or anything, because it just doesn't
seem to be his style.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, And I think that's what I'm emphasizing. In sure,
you might have to adjust to the weather. I mean,
I guess we'll know later on tonight how that's going
to impact the game. If there's a crosswind at all,
that certainly is going to affect the passing game, as
you pointed out, as long as it's at your back,
or you can drive the ball through a wind, and
you can certainly use it at your back, even though
(09:33):
that can be dangerous at times as well. So I'm
not just I'm just not going to speak to how
the wind is going to impact tonight's throws. If it's terrible,
then you do have to adjust, and you probably do
have to get a little bit more conservative. But I
certainly want the mindset and I would have wanted it
all week and Sam's head. If I'm Mike McDonald, I'm
(09:53):
making sure that it's like we have complete faith in you,
Like you know, there's no talk about hey, Sam, we
can't have four t turnovers.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
It is right.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Let it rips on. Go out there and play the
way you've played all season long, because we've benefited it
from it, ah hell of a lot more than it's
cost us throughout fourteen games this football season.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, and Hughes documented that, I mean basically all season
long of even when people want to bring up the
easiest stat the turnovers, and it came up huge after
the four turnover of the four interception game against these
guys last time that he was like, Yeah, but they're
explosive and the big throws and all these things that
come from the chance that you put the ball in
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the air and that there is an inherent danger that
comes with that.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You just can't make the crucial ones.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
And obviously you can't let them accumulate over a game
because then you're losing possessions which you're not going to
score any points and giving them short fields like they
did in the first matchup. So, I mean, I'm with you.
I think the idea if if just weather is a
moot point, which I don't think it's going to be,
but if it is, the idea should be. We believe you,
We're not worried about you not rising to the occasion
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in a big game. That was a big game against
them the first time you played, and you threw the
ball to them.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
But we don't think that's who you are.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
We don't think you just can't do anything but throw
it to the wrong team against the Rams.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
We think you are.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
We more so to take the amount of data that
we have on the other what would it be, thirteen
games that you've played that have been really good for
the most part, We're going to take that as that's
who you are. And that was just that one was
kind of an outlier. So go out there and do
what you gotta do and take the team where they
need to.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Go and for the last hour. I think there's two
rights about this as well. I mean, it sounds like
you and I are on the same page of like,
I don't want to spend the whole game, Ashley's on
this page trying to establish the run.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
We don't do it well, right.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
But whether could dictate that you might have to adjust
to that. And I think Greg is right. I think
huge right, because he and I see the same I
think huge. I think his analysis is right, and I
think Greg's probably right with his intimate knowledge of Mike McDonald,
which is greater than ours. They probably are going to
spend two plus quarters trying to establish the run. They
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want eleven games out of fourteen. You know, maybe part
of Sam Darnold's effectiveness has been because defenses have to
focus so much on how often this team tries to
run the football. My guess is Clint Kubiak is going
to bang his head against the wall tonight trying to
establish the run, and if there's weather, they're even going
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to be more convicted to it. I just don't want
to see it now. Again, weather changes that potentially, but
I don't want to get to the game of the
year and just be hell bent on proving to the
arguably the best team in the National Football League. We
could run against you. No, if I'm going to lose,
I'm gonna lose doing what we do best. That's how
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that would be my mentality.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
And I like that mentality because it's at this point.
You know, we've talked about the entire season what they
are here. At this point, you kind of know what
you are, and they struggle the football. It's not that
you can't, you're just not very efficient at it. You
don't you try it as much, if not more than
everybody else, and your efficiency at it is worse than
just about everybody else.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
So don't pound your head against the wall.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
It doesn't mean don't keep doing it, because somehow that
recipe has turned into eleven victories. So I'm not saying
abandon it. Just don't marry yourself solely to it. And
don't think that it has to be some fifty to
fifty split. But I do think that you know there's
going to be times. I mean the idea of regardless
of how the wind's blowing. When Hughes starts talking about
I couldn't throw outside the numbers because even if the
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wind is blown directly from the south to the north,
when you throw to the sideline, it's just it's hitting
the side of the ball, right, I mean, the only
time you're basically thrown right with the wind is it's
going to be rare.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
So to me, I think it is going to affect it.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
And yet even what the wind it is bad is
at your back. That's prime recipe for overthrows.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, well then you got it.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
That's an interception. The overthrows lead to the interceptions. That's
safeties who aren't even who aren't even playing the ball
will end up with picks that way. So it's gonna
be it's gonna impact. I just I'm hoping that we're around,
you know, twelve to fifteen and not eighteen to twenty five.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, for wins, for wins, Yeah, that makes a big difference.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah yeah, and so h yeah. So and then the
other thing is the Adams cross effect. It looks like
both of these teams are going to be without valuable
players tonight. And I'm with Hugh on this one as well,
Like I don't we haven't seen a lot of Josh Jones.
But for whatever reason, I got faith they Rams don't
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have anybody that can be Devonte Adams. Well, there's no
there's nobody like two to two at Well cannot be
Davante Adams. A third tight end on the field can't
be Davonte Adams. I mean, they can be effective in
their own way. I mean that's pretty obvious. They're a
very good football team, maybe even a great football team.
But I think we got a better chance of sir,
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you know, not feeling the effect of Cross being out than.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
They have of Adams being out. Maybe that's just wishful
thinking on my point. Well, no, I there's a chance
that that's the case. I mean, one is a playmaker,
one is thing somebody that breaks the game open. The
other one is where it's like, I.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Need consistency for you to not just get run over
and let people be free runners at our quarterback because
that can turn into allowing someone on their team to
be a game wrecker or a game changer. I do
think that if the wind is an issue, I do
think that Kobe Parkinson has been kind of showing out now.
He's got like six touchdowns last six games. His biggest
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game he's had so far was last week. The worst
game that he's had in that little stretch was against
Seattle and he had two catches. He was only thrown
two twice, and one of them was a touchdown. But
I will be curious to see if that's an EMN
worry project it was to some degree in the first matchup.
If it's you shut that guy down because six seven
two sixty five is a thing that you can box
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people out right. If they do end up going with
some thirteen personnel to run and then they pass off
of that, you don't have to make real long throws
and you can still end up moving the change. I
think there's the chess match between McDonald and McVeigh that
I mean the other side of the ball. Obviously, Clint
Kubiak against their defensive scheme is just as important. But
the one between the McVeigh and McDonald boyle boy, is
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that going to be crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
It's gonna be MC fantastic can make delicious and we're
gonna make win.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
It, Mr Victory, and.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
We're gonna make cover. We went from a point and
a half dog to a point and a half favorite
for this game. So really, who knows how that gets
adjusted between uh last night now and the start of
the game, because smart money always usually comes into the
very end. But yeah, it seems there'd be a ground
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swell what it is, ground swell of.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Support the ground swells.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Mcground swell behind the see all.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That and some fries, maybe a couple of nuggets.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Mcground swell was the worst sandwich idea ever came up? Yeah, yeah, no,
it tastes like dirt. Yeah, mcgroundswell didn't. People didn't really
get it too earthy.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, I wouldn't get it.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
What they were doing. I'll tell you this though, there
are a lot of things we don't know about this matchup.
We don't know how the weather's going to affect it.
There are a lot of things we cannot control. What
we can control is the birth of the victory pipe.
So let's go.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Let's go get it the holiday season. We're ready for
a victory.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
No more I think about it. I want one of
them Sherlock home suckers. You know that you got to
put your hand inside the mouth just to light the
you know, the weed. What is it called tobacco?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Tobacco?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, just tobacco.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Okay, you're thinking of Mike sand O. Next, we'll get
his thoughts on this matchup. Sports Radio ninety three point
three K A R F M. Mike Sando of the
Athletic and to you buy Hunt services. Get on the
horn and call hunts now with Mike. Here's Chuck and Bud.
How can you not talk to your NFL insider on
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game day, the game of the year. Mike Sando now
joins us here on Chuck and Buck. How fired up
are you and the Sando household for this one?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Sir?
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Extremely fouled up, fired up, filed up, fired up.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
Everybody. Yeah, I mean everybody's fired up.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Our you know, our dog Joel whose neat appearances on the.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
Show, is fired up. The other day.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
He was so fired up the other day that he
got he met the FedEx driver and he ran into
his truck. Okay, he just wanted to get on his
route and.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Like ran inside of it or ran into the side.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Of it, into the No, he goes and hops in.
You know, he was like, hey, I'm ready to go,
and so he's ready to go. Everyone's ready to go,
all right.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
What's your favorite part of this matchup? The playoff puzzled,
the Donald versus Stafford, the McDonald versus McVeigh, what's the
what's the favorite part of our favorite matchup of the year.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
So the favorite part of it big picture is definitely
McDonald against McVeigh and how Mike McDonald has sort of
turned the tables and he's got to he's doing better
against McVeigh than anybody, right, It's awesome. That's why one
of the reasons you hired him. I think though the
big storyline up like the week is Donald related, just
because a Seahawks are going to be in the playoffs,
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you know, he didn't do well late last year. He
had the four pick game against him last time. I
think that's probably the bigger story of the day, Right,
it's just what Donald does, can you you know, limit
the turnovers? And if they lose, is he not really
the reason why? I think that type of stuff is
going to get the headlines right. And then you know,
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the third thing will be, hey, these guys are gonna
play again, right, I think that's going to be the
third thing. Especially if Seattle wins, it'll be hey, it's
even these guys, this is and over, they're going to
play again. So those are the three storylines in order
probably for me.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah, where what kind of advantage? Who gets the advantage
in the chess match? That is the McVeigh versus McDonald situation.
If there's really heavy wins.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Well McDonald, I mean, it just becomes harder to throw
the ball for both offenses.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Right.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
It was already hard for the Rams offense without I
don't even think they turned it over, and it was
hard for them playing in the great conditions of their
home stadium where any offense would want to play, you know.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
So to me.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
That that's a huge X factor with the wind we've
obviously had. I mean yesterday morning, I was had a
saw out in the backyard. We had tree branches down
on the fence. I mean it was like it looked
like a it looked like a you know, if I
tell you this, I was walking my dog yesterday.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
You might have I might have mentioned I had a dog.
I don't know I mentioned that, Joel.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
But there was a there was a trampoline had blown
out of somebody's yard, like we're in Tennessee or something,
and it was like lying it was across the street,
like lying over the path that I walk on. I've
never ever seen a trampoline.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, actually, yeah, I haven't seen one fly around here.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
You know, I've never walked into a trampoline. And so
that type of wind stuff definitely favors the defensive play color.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Was Joel still effective at his out routes though, and the.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Joel h yeah, Joel was.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
I had to clean up for Joel on the sidewalk.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
It was at embarrassing that kind of out route.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's doing okay. He was a little
concerned though, having to walk around it was a new thing.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Mike Sander was with us our NFL Insider Getting you
ready for Thursday night football. Seahawks versus Rams, bigger loss,
Davante Adams from the Rams offense, Charles Cross from the
Seahawks O line. M.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
I'm gonna say probably that's a tough one. I guess
I'll say Cross just because I'll say Cross. I'm torn
on it because I think the Seahawks style of play
may not put a lot of pressure on the tackles.
They threw the ball super short when they played the
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Rams last time. In fact, their average air yards on
a pass was like two something. It was by far
the lowest of any of their games. So I think
they may be getting more conservative on offense anyway, and
sort of mitigating the turnover risks, which could diminish how
much the Cross injury matters. I do think, though, if
Seattle gets in a situation where they have to throw
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the ball if they were behind or something, then I
think that really becomes the bigger injury of the two.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
There's been a lot of talk leading up to this
game about the McVeigh and how much he's using the
thirteen personnel. If all of a sudden, Devontae Adams is out,
I would assume that they do that a little bit more.
They can run and pass off of it. I just
mentioned our last segment. Kobe Parkinson kind of had his
best game last week. Every a round here knows him,
but he never did turn into any think that the
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last five or six games they've started using him more
as a weapon, even when DeVante Adams was in there.
Is that something that plays into the game plan against
the Seahawks defense.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Or no, no doubt, Yeah it does. And but Seattle's
defense with nickim Me and Wory has the ability to
be versatile enough to do well against that three tight
end package. And if you look at the output for
the Rams this season in their three tight end package,
the Seahawks defended it by far the best of anyone
in the league. I don't think it was as many
plays in that game as it may be in this one.
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But that's kind of a nice little sub part of
the chess match. Does McVeigh deviate from that little because
Seattle does defend it well, Do they try to do
it anyway? Do they have more success with it? You
mentioned Parkinson. We also have to think of Julian Love
as back at safety. I believe he missed the first
Ram game, right, I believe so.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Yes, So you're gonna have Julian Love in there.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
You've got probably just a healthier, fuller fledged, a more
mature Nicki min Worriy who's lining up all over the
place and really is on a short list of five
or six players in the league with Kyle Hamilton a
couple of others who can really affect the game in
a lot of different ways. So I'm going to say
it's a good matchup for Seattle.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah, for sure? Did he for sure? Did no question
about it. Mike Sando is with us, and you are
our NFL insider, and yet you used to cover the
Seahawks and you still live in the area, so you
are our conduit to this national you know narrative about
the Seattle Seahawks. I think that you know better. But
(24:34):
I just even if Sam struggles, I just don't want
to hear afterwards he can't win the big game, because
I think the Seahawks got a winner here in Sam Donald.
And I know that you know how well he's played
all season long, And just because he turns the ball
over against the Rams potentially for a couple of games,
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is that really going to stain Sam Donald season in
your estimation.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Yes, if it's the reason why they don't advance in
the playoffs, And I think this is a team that,
you know, depending on where I think this team, If
this team doesn't win a playoff game, I think then
those narratives matter more and become part of the conversation legitimately.
I think if they were to win in the playoffs,
even just one playoff win, I think then there's some
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of that is exercised. Right, Hey, you want a playoff
game with Darnold and yeah, yeah, he's had a couple
of bad games here there. And the turnover thing is real.
They've they've had more turnovers than they want, and I
think I have felt like recently they've sort of tried
to avoid them, maybe become a little bit more conservative
in some of their ways, you know. So we'll see
if that holds up. But I do think it's a
legitimate narrative on the table if it's a factor.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
All Right, who finishes first, second, and third in the
NFC West.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
I'm going to go ram Seahawks forty nine ers.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
So you got a loss tonight? You got a Seahawk loss, tonight.
But if they win the game, that you think they
win the division for sure? No, not for sure, not
for sure. Okay, all right, Rams.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
And I think the Rams are a little bit of
the better team just because their offense is so much
better than Seattle's offense. I think that, you know, we
need to see more from the offense, and so if
they win tonight, hey maybe we we reassessed, but I
kind of want to see the offense do better.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
What a great time of the year from Mike Sandy
got this great Thursday night game. Saturday Football starts this weekend.
I mean, you're just living large right now.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Saturday Football.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Love it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
You got Joel to hang out with, Joel.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
To hang out with.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Yeah, it's great having an eighty pound dog, ninety pound
dog just jump up on you when you're on the
couch and just knock your glasses off because he thinks
he's a laptog.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
It was really fun.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Bucky and I are going to introduce the victory pipe.
Yeah here this week. That's something that you're in a
lot of people have done the victory cigar, but Bucky
and I are sold on the victory pipe idea.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
I've never been a smoker, but I've always loved the
smell of pipe smoke. Yeah, Like my dad had a pipe,
you know, and my dad was like when when I
was born, like he was trying to quit smoking, but
then we'd catch him like sneaking, you know, you like
have his little stash on the side. But like a
pipe to me always smelled a great. Cigarettes smell like
crap after the first puff. The first puff is stice
and sweet smelling, but then they smell like crap. Yeah,
(27:16):
and to me, the pipe, Yeah, if I was to
smoke anything, yeah, like I don't even think of cigar smells.
I think scarsmells bad. Pipe kind of smells like like
it's just like a special kind of herbal tea or
something that intaw or something. Yeah, exactly. So maybe I'll
just have ask people to smoke pipes around me, you know.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
I kind of like to smell. I don't know what
I actually want to do that.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
All right, Well we're still were at the beginning stages
of this club. Yeah, we'll let you know. We'll send
you a newsletter, all right, Mike, enjoy the game tonight,
Thanks as always, and can't wait to talk to you
next week.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Sounds good. Man, I always love it.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
All right, Mike Sando. Our segment with him brought to
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Get on the horn. Actually we got to do this
big time.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
It's called the game day horn. Right there, we're going
to bring in my actual horn, Viking horn.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Call Hunts all right. One last thing next Sports Radio
ninety three point three KJRM all right, final segment of
the radio program here on Game Day. Of course, we'll
be getting you ready all day long. Just keep it
here at KJA are all four shows, so we'll count
it all the way up there and game tonight at
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five fifteen. But one last thing, no rules, one last thing,
go wherever you want. That's the way we do things
around these here parts. What do you got, buddy?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Well, right now, I didn't want to just get this
over with so I can get back to shopping for
a pipe.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Although I don't do anything.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I think it's happening Sea show promo.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Yeah, I'm I might wait, tell I tell my wife, Hey,
I a last minute Christmas gift this pipe or I
might just leave here right now and head to a
tobacco pipe shop and buy one.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I think weed shot.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
No, no, actually, tobacco pipe shot.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I's just kidding, I do kind of.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I bet they have weed pipes there too.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, I was just joking because.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Of the Yeah, I like the Gandolf one where it's
like the real long. Yeah, they like the Gandolf one.
I like that idea for you. I also like the
Christoph Waltz one and the Glorious Bastards, the big yellow
one like looks like a mini saxophone, kind of like
that one for you too. What are you leaning towards?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
The Longer Wizard ones, the Lord of the Rings ones
I've already looked at. They're they're a bit dainty. It's
really thin, yeah, you know, and the like long I
like the idea of it being, but it's you have
to have to be a little bit more girdthing. I
don't want to have to be like, I don't want
a fragile one.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
You know, something to junk and it's trunk.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then the one from Gloria's it's
a bit phallic looking.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
It's a bit oh really Yeah, it's a bit kind
of like it's I don't want one that's that size. Okay, Okay,
it's so I don't know. I mean there, maybe I
can't go get one just right now. It might be
to too many things to try to determine and find
the right kind of tobacco smells good. You got to
get a pouch thing to hold it in, and then
and then your tobacco in it, and then pipe cleaners
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and a little stand.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Then we got to figure out too, would you be
lighting that for Seahawks victories or only Broncos and Ducks.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Victory things that I celebrate?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, so then yeah, you wouldn't really you can you
can't really be.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Part of the club.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
There's a lot of times that I am. I'm happy
about a Seahawks victory. Anytime you play an AFC team,
I'm pumped about it.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Okay, it's safe for Bucky victories. Whatever buys a victory,
each his own victory pipe on Fridays.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
The week is over and we survived.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Light it up right out here.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
We got through a Booze News victory victory. Was that
going to be your one last thing?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
No?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
It is now, I guess I mean I was gonna dude.
I mentioned it to Ashley yesterday. Have you seen the
General Kirby Moore Twitter account yet?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I have not read it, but I am aware of
and it's playing off the Andrew.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Lock Yes, and it's funny. Okay, it is funny. He's
already I don't know who it is, but good work.
It's it's already been taken. But I think there's room
out there for some other onands. And they playing off
of the fact that there's a.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Chance we might know him.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'm actually not one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
My thought was it might be Jim.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Moore, No, Jim not clever enough, might be Pucket.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. Whoever. It is,
good on you because it's some funny. It makes me.
It makes me giggle when I.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Read somebody writing a letter old Timy about the you know,
the Crimson Gray flag ripping wind.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
It's like, okay, yeah, the Captain Andrew Luck was great,
but it is a knockoff. Yeah, we'll see see if
you can match it. Yeah, longevity is the key, It's true.
All right, Ashley, what do you got for one last thing?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Well, we talked about this yesterday and I'm bringing it
up again because it's a big game, right. We all agree,
everyone says big game. So how do you celebrate a
big game if you are at the stadium victory? Yell
your ass off? Okay, And we have talked about I
was there Sunday. It felt loud, but the decibel showed
one eleven. I don't know how accurate that is or
what they're really measuring, but all I know is that
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that stadium has been at one thirty seven before, and
I want it to be closer to that than one
eleven tonight. Damn it.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I've never experienced a fan base that loves making noise
more than a Seattle sports fance. Yeah. And you heard
it at the during the playoffs Baseball playoffs, yep. And
you hear it at every Seahawk game. And now for
this game, I don't think you got anything to worry about.
And it's not like Rams fans travel no, I would
(33:05):
hope not. Yeah, it's gonna be all Seahawks fans, and
I think it's gonna be the loudest it's been an
all wat It better.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Be, That's what I'm saying. It's just gotta live up
to the moment. That's all I want. You know, If
you don't hit one hundred and thirty seven, that's fine.
I think it was a playoff game, but you gotta
step up for the moment.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah. Yeah, And I'll close out with this. I just
I think it's a win. I think we're gonna get
a win here tonight. I think we outplay them the
first time and lost that game. I don't see a
minus three turnover game for the Seahawks. Maybe they do
turn it over more than what the Rams do. But
(33:40):
I'm thinking that we're gonna be happy tomorrow morning, and
I think we're gonna win by twenty four to seventeen.
That is gonna be my election for this evening's game.
So let's get it on. Like I said, we're just
at nine fifty three this morning. We I mean, we
got seven plus hours to talk about it here on
cage and countdown the seconds to tonight's game. And of
(34:02):
course we'll be here for you with Monday Morning quarterback
tomorrow starting at six am. Greg mell will be with us,
You Mellon for two hours, Mike Homeran for one hour,
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