December 23, 2025 • 36 mins
DK Metcalf receives two-game suspension after fan interaction in Detroit. This latest issue is further proof that the Seahawks made the right choice trading him. Not to be ignored is the question of what the fan actually said. Video is on the fan’s side, unless he said something when DK was up close, but again- DK should have never been over there. Can he get out of his own way eventually or will he continue to be a liability? :30- The Mariners signed Rob Refsnyder to a year-long deal, so we get the info from Bucky on what kind of player the M’s added. Defensively, we aren’t getting much, but offensively, he rakes against lefties. If we put him in as a DH against lefties, who do we use against righties? Bucky has an idea! :45- Old Man Rivers and the Colts took on the San Francisco 49ers last night and left a lot of Seahawks fans feeling better about our team’s struggles against the Colts two weeks ago.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's some time. Good morning class, ladies and gentlemen. Ladies
and gentlemen, behold.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
In producing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former
high school basketball stand what in the hell does that mean?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Don't jumped any conclusions. Not a god, You've got to
lower lower your expectations.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'm getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
And former will just openly admit I'm a fat, out
of shaped X athlete.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
A five seven guard and a former college water polo
and national champion.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
There's a lot of useless crap up here.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
Ashley Ryan. What to you buy to Lato Casino Resort
and Quilsee to Greek Draft King sports book where the
action never stopped?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
There you go. Well, good morning, uh and welcome to
the program. We have four hours of radio. But it
is not Chuck.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
He again is taking.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Another day off, and rightfully so and well deserved. He
needs to get rested up so that he can deal
with Ashley and.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I ain't that the truth.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
I can barely see you in there by the way,
Is it dark?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It is dark.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I was like, I think that's Bucky. I just have
to dim my lights to match his lights.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'll turn him up because it's you know,
I don't want anybody to not be able to see
all of this and in all of its glory. Yeah,
Or I'll just turn it all the way off. You
can just stare into a dark room.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Either way, just as song as we're not in this
middle portion that we're in right now.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Yeah, you just just my face with the glow of
these computer screens. I'm sure that'd be wonderful. I think
it was anders. I think Andrews was in here doing
the hockey game, and he probably dims the lights, you know,
for mood.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Oh yeah, and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
That makes sense, I guess, because yeah, where the lights
are right now with the chis is probably really good radio.
But all I can really see is the outline of
my big white door behind me in my reflection of
the glass, and then your face is just kind of
faded behind that.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Oh well, then it's probably you're probably better off for it.
But I'm gonna I don't want to see shoe. I'm
un a shoe by turning the lights up after it,
I'll appreciate it. Yeah, okay, all right, good, Well, like
I said, we got four hours of radio, no Chuck,
just Ashley and I today, no Hue.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
That's fine. Then we don't have to die.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
We don't have to talk about nothing but football, because
there's other things to talk about. I don't know for
sure if there's anything more important or well, I don't
even know if you call this important. Probably bigger story
that has some ties to the Seattle folks here other
than the whole DK situation. Yeah, that's a doozy what
(02:53):
I mean. Obviously we discussed yesterday that, you know, somewhere
towards the end of the game this weekend Steelers against
the Lions in Detroit. Everybody's seen at this point unless
you've been living under a rock, that he decided to
go over to a fan and somebody had been obviously
(03:14):
heckling him and saying some stuff. His side of the
story is that he called him the N word and
called his mother the sea word. Yes, both of which
in a just regular setting I would say warrant getting
slapped upside the face either or not to mention if
(03:34):
you did both. Now, I ended up seeing a video
yesterday of someone right there, I mean in the stands.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I didn't hear any of that.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Now, if he said it when he was right up
close to him, when he was kind of bending down
and and DK looked like kind of grabbed his shirt
before he took a swipe at took a swipe at
him trying to hit him or did hit him, Yeah,
if he said it right there, yeah, you didn't catch that.
But leading up to it, what cat on that video
wasn't anything other than your typical heckling.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Yeah, just people yelling and they were like, don't sign it,
like he wanted to sign his Lion's shirt.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I think, yeah, I don't. Yeah, who knows.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I didn't understand the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I don't know for sure if we will ever get
the whole truth and nothing but the truth DK is
for you know, he's coming out on his and saying
I've had issues with this guy before. Apparently he had
reported this this fan back when he was a Seahawk.
He had reported him to the Seahawks security team because
of him saying inappropriate things. Are just Dek not liking
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him saying anything, and then now this time he basically
ends up having a physical confrontation with the guy that
now he's going to be suspended for the rest of
this regular season, which is going to cost him five
hundred and forty four thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
And that's not even the worst of it.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
The worst is that that looks like pennies.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah, forty five million dollars of guaranteed money that was
in his big one hundred plus million dollar contract is
now at the risk of being it's not guaranteed now
doesn't mean that he's not going to make it or
can't still make it. It just gives the Pittsburgh Steelers
an out if they want to get out. And I
(05:16):
think that's a doozy. Now he's putting up he's not
having a great season, but that they are not having
a great offensive season. He's starting to come on a
little bit as of late. I think Aaron Rodgers is
starting to recognize what it is that he how he
does what he does, and their connection is getting a
little better.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
But I don't know for sure.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I mean, you just you basically feel like you're skating
on thin ice. If I'm dk now with the idea
of man, I do anything wrong, they can get rid
of me and they don't owe me that guaranteed money
that was in my contract because he's done something that
Somewhere in the contract there was the verbiage of if
you do something detrimental to the team, or you miss
games because of something other than an injury, then you
(06:00):
this stuff is not guaranteed anymore. So now all of
a sudden, you're just playing on a contract that you
don't have basically the guarantee, which is I think what
most of these guys are going for when they're trying
to get these new contracts. So I feel for them.
At the same time, I don't. I mean, I don't
want to say that it's that it's right for a
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fan to say anything, because I think fans are far
too emboldened these days to just.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Talk trash without the fear of consequences.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
But the consequences cannot ever be you taking a swipe
at them, you trying to punch them. As an athlete,
you just part of what goes into being a pro
athlete is all of the extra stuff. It's not you know,
you just get to play a game and you get
to act a fool. If so, you don't like how
somebody says something to you, or or how things are
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going you. Part of your job is acting professional, even
in the light of somebody else acting like an a hole,
you know, I mean, what's your thought. I mean, do
you think the suspension for the rest of the regular season,
and the stipulation of what it's possibly going to do
to his contract moving forward, do you think that's fair?
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I mean, I think it's a lot more than I
thought was going to happen to him. I thought maybe
he'd get fined.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
I would have he should be suspended for a game,
but I didn't know that they would do that, so
I was quite surprised to see the two game suspension.
I think the biggest issue when I've watched all of
these angles of the videos over and over and over,
is that DK could have avoided this situation. He's on
the sideline, the guy's yelling at him. All you have
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to do is walk the other direction. Instead, he stood there,
listen to it for a bit, then chose to walk
up to the fan and start this altercation. The guy
is in the stands, He's not coming down on the field.
He's not going to come attack you. So if you
go the other direction, you avoid the whole thing. And
in this situation, it's your livelihood and your name. No
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one knows who this guy is or knew who this
guy was before this altercation happened. Everyone knows who you are,
so you've got to protect the reputation that you have.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And he didn't do that.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
He put himself in this, in this situation, and he said,
you know, I feel for him. Yeah, I feel for
him in the sense that if this guy has had
if he's had issues with this guy over and over again,
or if this guy did say what DK's saying he
said and not what the fan is because the fans
saying he just called him by his full name, and
we're like, hired a lawyer already and has put out
a statement and is probably now gonna sue Dkay oh yeah,
(08:34):
and so in that But again, the reason I don't
feel for him is because it never had to happen.
All he had to do was go the other direction.
You are down on the field, you were twenty feet
away from him. You could have walked the other way
instead of turning around and going over to the fan
and Honestly, someone from the Steelers should have been on
it to have pulled him away as he started walking
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to the guy.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah yeah, well that teammate wise or coaching staff wise.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I mean, but then again, I don't know for sure
if DK is one that takes prodding or probing or anything.
Hey dude, do this. Here's the direction you need to go,
whether it's physically direction go to that direction or just
taking direction. I mean, I'm not gonna say that he's
completely uncoachable, but I'm going to say that he's not
(09:23):
the most coachable. Oh yeah, you know, I just don't
think that. I think that he has a little bit
of the I'm kind of a one of one. Yeah
you are physically, but you're not even close to one
of one between the years when it comes to how
to handle yourself. We watched it here and it was
one of the more frustrating things. There was frustration, legitimate
frustration about how he was used in the offense. And
(09:45):
you know, I mean I buy into a lot of
what Hugh says. I think Hughes football knowledge is off
the charts. So when he's saying you gotta take a
shot to this guy at least once a game or
once a half or whatever it is, and you have
to just try to pound the ball to this guy
because of what he brings to the table physically and
how he can change a game. I was on board
(10:07):
with that and understood that, and the fact that that
didn't happen for majority of the time that he was
a Seahawk, I can understand where frustration would be on
the flip side of it.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
There's other parts.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
I think that that maybe he doesn't do the same
as Jackson Smith and Jigba, Like wouldn't a quarterback first
and foremost want to be able to know you're going
to be exactly where you're going to be. I mean
to the half a yard, I mean exactly. I don't
think that he was that great at it. Otherwise, his
physical attributes combined with his route running. If it was
(10:39):
like Jackson Smith and Jigba, he's not going to be
He's going to be the one setting all the records.
But now Jackson Smith and Jigma's blowing that stuff, blowing
that stuff out of the water, and good for Seahawks fans. Basically,
I mean, I don't think anybody is you know, sitting
here wishing that they had him back at thirty million
dollars a year so that he can get personal foul
penalties and we can hope that at some point reaches
(11:01):
his ceiling. But back to the kind of the idea
or the situation at hand, I'm with you. There's a
way in which you could handle it, which is very easy.
You just ignore them, right, And it's hard.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
It doesn't feel like I mean, you know, it doesn't
feel good to let someone just get away with saying
horrible things to you.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
No, doesn't feel good.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
And I mean for the sake of I mean, I'm
not one hundred percent sure the guy would have said
it or did say it somebody. There is people that
would say those things, and those people are not good people,
and it would be nice if they get caught, if
they're at a venue and they're saying things like that
to the athlete and get it, you know, kicked out.
And I don't know how you keep somebody from ever
coming back. Whenever they say somebody's banned forever. Yeah, it's
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facial recognition when you walk into a stadium, But how
do they keep you out? Right, You're gonna have somebody
else buy the ticket. Your name never has to go
near it. You can just go walking in with the rest.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Of the herd.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
But the idea of you're out here for this game.
We just heard you call him the N word, or
we've heard what she called his mom. If we're going
to take DK at his word that that was said,
that's unfortunate. And yesterday I said, I how during my
career I was an easy target for heckling. Right, It
(12:16):
just with my name and what it rhymes with, and
being kind of a bigger guy. And I had a
you know, propensity to strike out, and so there'd be
I'd be the beer batter of the game, right where
if you strike out, beers are on sale for the
next half inning or something. Well, they would do that,
and I loved it. Like some I had teammates that
hated it. It added pressure. They didn't like the fact
(12:37):
that when they get two strikes the crowd really comes
alive because they want cheaper beer.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I mean I ate it up. I had sometimes when
people would maybe toe the line of going over the
top right where I don't know if fat shaming is
necessary now, that's completely different than a racial slur right
like in today's well in no time should it have been.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Okay, But I mean fifty years ago it was more common.
It was all the time, right.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I mean, if you when when African Americans got put
in yet you know, we're allowed to play in sports,
they got abused.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
When you say fifty years ago, I felt like that
was a really long time ago. That was still the eighties. Yeah,
that's how old we are, right.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, well seventy seventy seven, so it is even longer
than fifty years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
There years ago.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, but even fifty years ago, it wasn't good. It
wasn't it wasn't fun.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
It was worse for a black athlete back then than
it is now. That said, that doesn't mean that, hey,
since it's so much better, you rarely get called that
that you should just let it roll off your back. No,
it's not, it's not okay, I'm not okay. So, if
DK was telling the truth that the guy said that,
I can see why you'd want to punch him in
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the face, right, he deserves to be punched in the face.
You just can't do it, right then, correct, you can't.
I mean, you can not do it. It's unprofessional. And
you're right, it's not even about the money. It's not
about but it's not about the principle either. It's about
you have you and your name that you need to
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stand on, right. I mean, as a kid, when I
was growing up, there was one of the big rules
was do not embarrass our family, meaning don't do things
that you know would come back and shine a light
as to my mom or dad being like, we didn't
raise you like that, like that, like if I ever
had that.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I got caught stealing one time.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I don't know why, I decided to steal some weightlifting
gloves when I was twelve, and it was the butt
whoop and I got and the grounding for the entire
summer was not because necessarily that I tried to take
something that was twelve dollars and I didn't pay for it.
It was the principal behind we didn't raise you. You're
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not a thief. We didn't raise you that you can
just take something even if you don't have the money
for it. We didn't raise you in a way in
which you're going to act like that. And so it
was the embarrassment to the name right to my my
family's name, that it was like, you're going to you're
gonna pay for this one, gonna you're gonna feel this punishment.
This is going to be more than your average go
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to your room and think about what you did type
of thing. And and to me, so that sticks with me,
and that's kind of part of the reason why when
we talk about all kinds of different topics, I have
a hard time with athletes more so today. Not to
say it hasn't always been there, because you've had athletes
that have have clap back at fans. You've had athletes
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that have have done something like this before, wanted to
go into the stands, tried to go into the stands.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
You've had stuff like this happen.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
But it seems more now like there's the talk is more,
for sure, whether it's the talk amongst competitors on the
field is more, and then that the emboldened fan is more.
They can't wait to say stuff and they will. The
line has been pushed further to where they I think
they can get away with doing more. And then the
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response to it or the players not having the ability
to just turn around and ignore it and just take
it as that's part of the game. You know part
of the entertainment aspect of this. As I play in
front of sixty seventy thousand people, and there's going to
be a nice little chunk them that are giant a holes.
They're going to say stuff that they shouldn't and MY
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job is to just go out and continue to perform
for those that aren't a holes while that guy gets
to watch. I just have to ignore it and let
it go. And yet he just doesn't have the ability
to do that, which is a bit worrisome because the
real world is still out there.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Right, You're still living in the real world.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Even though you get to play a job and make
fantasy money while you just get to run around and
play football, you still are in the real world, and
majority of your life is going to be lived in
the real world. And I don't feel like this guy
has a temperament that allows him to really what's the
word like kind of gauge how am I supposed to act?
(17:06):
Based on this situation at hand. I feel like he
really misses the boat on certain things. And it's unfortunate
because I don't know for sure if you can teach
this age dog a new trick of how dude you
got to get yourself under control, man, because you're I
just I fear it's the Antonio Brown effect kind of right,
like you just for some reason, it feels like there's
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a lot of athletes nowadays that because they live in
this world of I am pretty special, that it translates
outside of the game, and when you're not even playing
the game, you're standing on the sidelines. I don't have rules.
The rules of society don't necessarily pertain to me. And
I just don't think that's the case. And I think
that you end up running into a bunch of hardships
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if you do think that's the case.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Yeah. Well, and I think in just in this situation too,
it's you know, there's so many videos out there, and
you can't hear this guy say the words that DK
has said. He's said right, so unless he said it
up close and nobody can hear it.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
There's one thing there, right.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
The other thing is DK notoriously has put himself above
his teammates, and here's another situation of him doing it
to an extreme level where now he is actually detrimental
to his team. They have two games left, they're trying
to make the playoffs, and now he's pending an appeal,
gonna miss him both. And then on top of that,
he's detrimental to himself in his livelihood because of what
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he's done. And it's like you saw these small glimpses
of it on a much smaller scale when he was here. Right,
gets whine, he whinds when he doesn't get the ball
thrown his way, he gets angry when defenders get under
his skin, and those are the things that really, for
how long he's been in the league, somebody should have
been working with him on that, because it's so easy
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for people to get under his skin, and so's there's
really no excuse for why this happens. And then you
need to think too as as the professional athlete. You
know what, it's ridiculous that these fans think because they
bought a ticket, they can say whatever they want to
us and we have to take it. I agree, that
is ridiculous, and I have no place in my heart
for a fan who thinks that they are owed that
(19:14):
because they paid money for a ticket. Right, But you
don't win if you engage, Right. If you don't engage,
you walk away, and then you go score a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Now you just won you shut that fan.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Up right, Yeah, that was.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Where I was going with the idea of I used
to enjoy the idea of getting backled, and again you
kind of wanted to real quickly correct the idea of
me getting made fun of because I'm big or fat
or bald or my name rhymes with bad words. That's
completely different than getting called the N word. One hundred
percent to understand that, right, the idea. I mean, some
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people might say fat shaming is just as bad. I
don't necessarily I'm a big guy. Wasn't he a fat
when they were making fun of me? Not like I
am Now, I would say that, yes, they're not the same,
and yet it's the same concept. The concept is they're
trying to get under my skin. You have a couple options.
You can try to ignore it even though it pisses
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you off.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
You can engage. You can never engage physically, but you
can engage. I actually because I saw it as an
opportunity to to kind of shut them up. Like when
people you hear me all the time, I don't like
when people are chirping, when they yapping and they talking
a bunch of trash. Why do I not like it
because it almost sets you up for when you go
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fail that it makes it doubly bad. Right, you're talking
all this trash and then you go out and get burnt,
or you're talking all this trash and then you go
out there and you fail. To me, it's like, oh man,
that's got to sting twice as bad because you were
talking trash. Well, when a fan starts it would start
with me. I would end up immediately turn around, be like,
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I'm so glad you got to come and watch me
play today, right, And then there'd be a couple of
fans laughing around him. He'd be like, oh, he's engaging, okay,
and he'd keep coming back.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Well.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Inevitably, it's like if I struck out and he's like, yeah,
that's right, you suck and this happened, I'd be like, yeah,
but I get to go back up there and try
to go yard next time, right, or next time it
came on deck, he would start talking and I'm like,
I'm gonna do this. This one's for you, kid, And
then eventually when i'd hit a bomb, I'd come back
and wink at or tip my cap to and be like,
(21:30):
you want to go get that it's probably like a
five dollars cab, right to go get that ball?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Right? Can you go get that for me? Next thing?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
You know, that whole section was like a fan of me,
not because I engaged, but because I engaged in a
way that was fun right now, different than being called
the N word, I understand. But I don't think DK
is capable of what I just said. I don't think
that he is capable of taking a Heckler and flipping
the script on him and turn it into I'm going
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to show you how much control I have because I
don't think.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Yeah, where it's like you could go catch a touchdown
and then run over and give him the ball, yeah,
and then go back to the bench.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
I just unfortunately I don't think he has it. But no,
it is what it is. We will probably discuss this
a little further. We're gonna have a bunch of people
and we got to find out what else is on tap?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
What's on tap?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
What's on tap? All right?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
We got a lot going on today. The Mariners did
make a move. We're gonna discuss that. Uh, Philip Rivers,
I did want to talk a little bit about, uh,
the old man going out there and dealing again. Last
night it was in a loss, but he's still dealt.
We're gonna have Greg Bell. We're gonna have Mike k
He's a writer from Charlotte. He's gonna come on and
help us discuss the Panthers. We're gonna have the One
(22:42):
and Only Jean's Territory. We gotta get a little Gene
time in. We're gonna have FITZI on to discuss the
Kraken and the fact they got off the schneid a
little bit with the win last night. Tricky Ricky new Heizel,
We're gonna have him on discuss the college football playoffs.
I want to get Ashley's confidence meter. Where we're sitting
right now with something that comes to the Seahawks. And again,
we're going to talk a little bit more about the
(23:02):
Mariners free agency. But on the other side of this,
we are going to get into the Mariners and their
most recent signing and free agency on the other side
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Speaker 5 (23:13):
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annoyed by that song.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
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Speaker 3 (23:18):
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You'd have to play it like again right now, every.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Bumper in the middle of the segment.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Ago that commercial, I mean, PayPal must be paying a lot.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, I guess it's it's really something. I'll say that,
it's really something.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
That's why we make so much money.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Sure, it's always fun when you know every single word
of a commercial because you hear it.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Twice about every single break.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yeah, so all the listeners out there that do text
in like really PayPal enough enough yea, we get it.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
We're with you.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, we hear it too. So yeah, that's uh, it
is what it is. But I guess that's what pays
the bills.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Around here, the bills, and I did paypals of the bills,
and I did turn the lights on it. You see
about it your face now, look, you are so welcome.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I love it all right, Well, onto the topic at hand.
Mariners did make a move yesterday. Uh it's not like
Kyle Tucker, but I don't mind this deal.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
This this move.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
They ended up signing Rob Refschneider he's a kind of
a journeyman. I guess you'd say, I think he's thirty
four years old. Thirty four, Yeah, I think he turns
thirty five on opening Day. Okay, kind of a career
backup dude has not really ever had a season that
he goes out and puts up any sort of crazy numbers.
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Not known for his defense, but he is known to
be able to play a lot of different positions.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
He can place, you can play.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Anywhere in the outfield, not great birth catch most of
the balls. He's played a little bit second, and he
has he can play some first base. And so I
think this is a move where you got yourself a
bit of you have a utility guy, but not for defense,
just because you can put him in anywhere. And he
rakes left handed pitching. I mean he's one of the
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better right handed hitters against lefties as far as his
hard hit rate.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I mean, he's up there. I think it was Luke
Arkins had.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Wrote an article on it that I had read earlier
this morning, I think, and he was I don't remember
the numbers exactly, and I don't have in front of me.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I should have pulled that up.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
If I'm going to reference it, but it was something
along the lines of there was three hundred hitters that
had this minia bats against lefties, and he was like,
he was like twentieth or twenty fifth as far as
hard hit rate amongst all of them. I mean with
basically like Kyle Tucker, Kerry Carpenter, the guy that we
all hate because he's really good, really good and good looking. Yeah,
(25:55):
like you need things, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
How about you be as big strike out guy if
you're gonna look.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Like, yeah, come on, man, look at my smile. It's
really great.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, and I just hit game winners. How's that taste?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Oh yeah, suck it.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
So he's up there with him as far as hard
hit rate and whatnot, at least against left handed pitching.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
So it's kind of one of those you have check
a box.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I mean, it's at a minimum, I think it raises
the bar of your bench, ok, right, Like which matters
over the course of one hundred and sixty two games.
You're gonna need to give Josh Naylor a breather. At
some point in time. He can fill in there, He
could play some second, He can play anywhere in the outfield.
I think He's probably a guy that you could put
just about anywhere. Not shortstop, obviously, not catcher, but I
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think you could put him just about anywhere. He's going
to not be great there, but he's going to do
the job when he gets up to bat.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So he's not gonna be like an everyday guy.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I don't think he's gonna be in every day.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Okay, So he's just gonna be the person that they're
kind of putting in to give people rest or fill
a hole if somebody knock on it gets hurt.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
I think he'll be your left handed I think he
I think he'll be your DH going into spring training.
Right now, I think he's your DH. You pencil in
every time there's a lefty start, okay, and then he's
coming off the bench against a lefty reliever if he
isn't in the game, because he's that good.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
So your best.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
The best thing he's bringing to the table is his
offense against lefties.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
So it to me then brings up the idea of okay, well,
then whose our DH against.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Right handed pa?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Oh, do we have to we have to have one
for both sides of the players.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Well that or I mean his splits are significantly different.
I had them pulled up his his against right handers,
he's hitting two twenty nine. This is over the course
of you know, his entire career, which is it's been
a decent career, but it's still limited amount of bats.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Eight hundred bats or so.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
He's got a two twenty nine batting average against the
righty's versus a two eighty one against lefties. Okay, significantly
more power production, everything that he brings to the table.
He's really good against lefties and not so much. And
so to me, the first name that popped into my.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Head, rights against righties you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yes, against righty's, was Carlos Santana. Yes, I mean older.
We like what he brings to the clubhouse. We know
he fits in there.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
We know they love him.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
He's still he still keeps like fighting father time. Like
everybody's like, well he's old, we can't.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
And then every year you see him at least have
a couple of highlights on Sports Center doing something.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeap. So I mean that's a way where this is
just a one year deal.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
By the way, the Mariners sign Rob Refschneider for one year,
six and a quarter mill I mean, you go out there,
maybe get I don't know how much. Carlos Santana would
be eight million bucks or something like that. So you're
paying fourteen million bucks for a dh Okay, you get
two of them, two for the price of.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Two for the price one. We put them up there
at the same time.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I don't think so. I think that's against the rules. Okay,
it's not a bad idea. I wouldn't want to go
up there. That would really suck it fouls one off.
You're both swinging. Oh no, web gb Yeah, it makes
you shake, you know, isn't that?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Isn't that what you call those hebgb's usually Oh, heb gbs.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
I've never heard.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Hermiston we say the web gbs. Maybe we don't. I
think he be GB's is right. I just called it
the web GB's, all right. Well, I don't want to
give anybody else the web gbs because I just got.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Them and it made me.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
It made me, It gave me goosebumps, all right, way, No,
not in a good way at all. Well, we got
to witness, uh, the old Man Rivers experiment again last night,
and I saw some folks out there tweeted us, saying, well,
now I feel a lot better about our defense after
watching him dice that up.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I got.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I got a couple of questions to ask Ashley about
father time and old man Rivers if he could beat
it stick around here at Sports Radio ninety three point
three k RFM. Oh my goodness, I had no idea.
That is interesting because yeah, I of all times, for
those that don't know, I always guess Hughie, and it
never is Huie.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
And apparently they did put out a Christmas album, so
we might play all their Christmas songs today.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Well, they've basically written all of the Christmas album.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Yeah, they just haven't performed them all. But now we
have found we've unlocked something.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Well, I'm glad that we did. Thank you, Hughie. Thank
you for all of the Christmas music that you've written.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, and all the music ever, Yes.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
All of all music that you are basically known for
and don't get accredited for. Don't get the credit for
because we appreciate you, because other people steal your work,
and that's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
It is because I know you're the best.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
You're a victim of circumstances.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Actually, I don't know if I like Huey Lewis.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Wow, well that's taking a turn.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, well it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I don't you know what it's because I don't really
know what he sounds like.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Because you do think everybody is him, so you don't
know what his actually sound is.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I'm sure he was good back at some point.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
He's got great music, does he?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yeah, okay, I'll take your word for it. Anyways. You
know who else has great music? I don't Philip Rivers?
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Oh yeah, no, great, sure, Oh he's got an extensive collection.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I bet he does. I bet he does.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
That's probably what he's been doing the last few years
when he wasn't playing football. You know, I couldn't stand
him when he was a Charger quarterback, even though I
respect him. And that's usually those that I dislike the most,
it's because they are really good.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, I don't really. You know, you're some.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Guy that just never did anything. You weren't really all
that good. You never really hurt my feelings.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Unless you're just a total turd.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah yeah, but those guys don't. If you're a turd
and you're not good, yeah, you probably don't see you
very long. No, no, no, And he didn't do anything
to steal my joy from my root and for my team. Well,
when he was a Charger quarterback, he did plenty of it.
And then he would talk trash, Dad, Gimmett and all
of the other not bad words that he would say somehow,
And he was the best trash trucker in the league
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for years.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
But I don't have that now.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I mean now I didn't want I don't want him
to win because he plays on a team, an AFC team.
Now there are chances of making the playoffs. I think
if dwindled to five percent after their loss last night
to San Francisco, which means something around here because San
Francisco keeps.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Hanging around and hanging around.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Uh, but it wasn't at Philip rivers expense or at
his fault. Anyways, he coming off the couch, he looked
okay against Seahawks, even though he didn't do anything special.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
He didn't put up great numbers.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
He just yeah, he'll put up like one hundred and
thirty yards or.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, yeah, he just dinked and dunked. But kept him
in the game. I mean, they were they had a
chance all the way down to the basically down to
the end until that little tipped pick that he threw.
But to me, it was a good showing for a
guy who hasn't been in an NFL game, going against
a vaunted defense and you know, a team that is
right now, you know, arguably the best team in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
So it was good. Now, you give him a full
week of practice.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
And he comes out and I mean, he was good
last night. He did end up having one interception that
was not real great, and Troy Aikman was basically blaming
it on the tight end that he turned his head
too quickly, which gives a linebacker no reason to respect
him going past him.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
I would imagine there's some truth to that.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
It also was not a great I mean, you got
to see the guys right there now. He did break
on it, made a good play pick six, and that
kind of was the end of the end. But it
does bring up the question I heard on the way
in from LeVar and Brady and Jonas. I heard them
talking about do you think he wants to come back now?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Because he afterwards he was talking about how fun it?
You know, it's hard because they've lost and so I'm
just gonna sit there and go, gosh, this is daggum.
This is great because you lost both games and you
came in hoping to be able to right the ship
from the downward trajectory that they've been going on, uh
and get him into the playoffs, and and you haven't
done it. Now you've went against the Seahawks and the Niners.
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It's not like you had some soft landing. You didn't
do it. But at the same time, he wanted to
express how that's been fun for him to come out
and you know, he's he's said in interviews, how what
if I got there and I popped my achilles my
first you know, first time I dropped back like somebody
about his age has done before. What if I go
out there and to throw a bunch of interceptions and
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just fall flat on my face.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Well he hasn't done that. In two games.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
He's went out there and performed well, much better after
a week of practice than he did even the you know,
basically coming into the building, putting his jersey on and
going out there strapping it up against the Seahawks. So,
I mean, some people are like, shit, is he gonna
come back? I think the idea of if he comes back,
he's not going to come back if Daniel Jones is
going to be there, right And I don't think he's
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I don't think any teams like you know what that's
that's who is our starter. Yeah, because he's getting away
with it right now. There was one play yesterday that
the blitzer got in there and kind of hit him
a little bit low and missed him. I think he
pulled off a little bit because he wasn't going to
get there in time, and so he kind of pulled
off and just bumped his leg and he tipped over
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like an old man.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
And I get that feeling. I understand your your feeling.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
There going down.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
And so I don't see it as something that he's
going to come out of retirement. I think he probably
rode off into the sunset knowing that his best days
were behind him. And yet this was one of those
you know, a friend calls, Yeah, the situation is comfortable enough.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Really, there's nothing bad.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
I mean, injury could happen, but aside from that, an
injury can happen when you're home, you know, walking down
your stairs, but you know, more.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Likely in an NFL game than walking down your stairs,
I assume.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
But injuries can happen, so aside from an injury, he's
not going to taint his career. And yet he had
the opportunity to write the ship. What if he came
in and beat the Seahawks in this first start and
then beat and then all of a sudden they make
the after he gets to make a playoff run, it
would have been music.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Or a movie work.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, you know, for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
So I but I don't see him coming back. I
don't see him, you know. I think he's probably enjoying
the fact that he's getting to play again, you know,
after he probably had written it off like well that's done.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
You know, since he coaches that he can still do it.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, and he does, and he does.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
He definitely he's better than some of the quarterbacks are
out there, even at forty four years old. He's he's
better than some of the guys that these guys are
having to run out there. But he's not going to
come back and play for free. He's not gonna Definitely,
I don't think he would come back and be a backup.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
So we shall see.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
I think the old man Rivers is you know, probably
a couple more games and then he'll ride off into
the sunset again. But pretty impressive showing for an old
dude to come off the couch and do.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
What he did.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
All right, On the other side, we're going to get
to talk to Greg Bell. We'll find out about the
injuries that were sustained. We'll find out what the Seahawks
are thinking, how he's feeling about them going up against
Carolina Panthers, right here at Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM.
It's some time. Good morning class, ladies and gentlemen. Ladies
and gentlemen, behold.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
In producing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former
high school basketball stand what in the hell does that mean?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Don't jumped any conclusions. Not a god, You've got to
lower lower your expectations.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'm getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
And former will just openly admit I'm a fat, out
of shaped X athlete.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
A five seven guard and a former college water polo
and national champion.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
There's a lot of useless crap up here.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
Ashley Ryan. What to you buy to Lato Casino Resort
and Quilsee to Greek Draft King sports book where the
action never stopped?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
There you go. Well, good morning, uh and welcome to
the program. We have four hours of radio. But it
is not Chuck.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
He again is taking.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Another day off, and rightfully so and well deserved. He
needs to get rested up so that he can deal
with Ashley and.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I ain't that the truth.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
I can barely see you in there by the way,
Is it dark?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It is dark.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I was like, I think that's Bucky. I just have
to dim my lights to match his lights.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'll turn him up because it's you know,
I don't want anybody to not be able to see
all of this and in all of its glory. Yeah,
Or I'll just turn it all the way off. You
can just stare into a dark room.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Either way, just as song as we're not in this
middle portion that we're in right now.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Yeah, you just just my face with the glow of
these computer screens. I'm sure that'd be wonderful. I think
it was anders. I think Andrews was in here doing
the hockey game, and he probably dims the lights, you know,
for mood.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Oh yeah, and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
That makes sense, I guess, because yeah, where the lights
are right now with the chis is probably really good radio.
But all I can really see is the outline of
my big white door behind me in my reflection of
the glass, and then your face is just kind of
faded behind that.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Oh well, then it's probably you're probably better off for it.
But I'm gonna I don't want to see shoe. I'm
un a shoe by turning the lights up after it,
I'll appreciate it. Yeah, okay, all right, good, Well, like
I said, we got four hours of radio, no Chuck,
just Ashley and I today, no Hue.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
That's fine. Then we don't have to die.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
We don't have to talk about nothing but football, because
there's other things to talk about. I don't know for
sure if there's anything more important or well, I don't
even know if you call this important. Probably bigger story
that has some ties to the Seattle folks here other
than the whole DK situation. Yeah, that's a doozy what
(02:53):
I mean. Obviously we discussed yesterday that, you know, somewhere
towards the end of the game this weekend Steelers against
the Lions in Detroit. Everybody's seen at this point unless
you've been living under a rock, that he decided to
go over to a fan and somebody had been obviously
(03:14):
heckling him and saying some stuff. His side of the
story is that he called him the N word and
called his mother the sea word. Yes, both of which
in a just regular setting I would say warrant getting
slapped upside the face either or not to mention if
(03:34):
you did both. Now, I ended up seeing a video
yesterday of someone right there, I mean in the stands.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I didn't hear any of that.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Now, if he said it when he was right up
close to him, when he was kind of bending down
and and DK looked like kind of grabbed his shirt
before he took a swipe at took a swipe at
him trying to hit him or did hit him, Yeah,
if he said it right there, yeah, you didn't catch that.
But leading up to it, what cat on that video
wasn't anything other than your typical heckling.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Yeah, just people yelling and they were like, don't sign it,
like he wanted to sign his Lion's shirt.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I think, yeah, I don't. Yeah, who knows.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I didn't understand the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I don't know for sure if we will ever get
the whole truth and nothing but the truth DK is
for you know, he's coming out on his and saying
I've had issues with this guy before. Apparently he had
reported this this fan back when he was a Seahawk.
He had reported him to the Seahawks security team because
of him saying inappropriate things. Are just Dek not liking
(04:34):
him saying anything, and then now this time he basically
ends up having a physical confrontation with the guy that
now he's going to be suspended for the rest of
this regular season, which is going to cost him five
hundred and forty four thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
And that's not even the worst of it.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
The worst is that that looks like pennies.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah, forty five million dollars of guaranteed money that was
in his big one hundred plus million dollar contract is
now at the risk of being it's not guaranteed now
doesn't mean that he's not going to make it or
can't still make it. It just gives the Pittsburgh Steelers
an out if they want to get out. And I
(05:16):
think that's a doozy. Now he's putting up he's not
having a great season, but that they are not having
a great offensive season. He's starting to come on a
little bit as of late. I think Aaron Rodgers is
starting to recognize what it is that he how he
does what he does, and their connection is getting a
little better.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
But I don't know for sure.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I mean, you just you basically feel like you're skating
on thin ice. If I'm dk now with the idea
of man, I do anything wrong, they can get rid
of me and they don't owe me that guaranteed money
that was in my contract because he's done something that
Somewhere in the contract there was the verbiage of if
you do something detrimental to the team, or you miss
games because of something other than an injury, then you
(06:00):
this stuff is not guaranteed anymore. So now all of
a sudden, you're just playing on a contract that you
don't have basically the guarantee, which is I think what
most of these guys are going for when they're trying
to get these new contracts. So I feel for them.
At the same time, I don't. I mean, I don't
want to say that it's that it's right for a
(06:21):
fan to say anything, because I think fans are far
too emboldened these days to just.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Talk trash without the fear of consequences.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
But the consequences cannot ever be you taking a swipe
at them, you trying to punch them. As an athlete,
you just part of what goes into being a pro
athlete is all of the extra stuff. It's not you know,
you just get to play a game and you get
to act a fool. If so, you don't like how
somebody says something to you, or or how things are
(06:51):
going you. Part of your job is acting professional, even
in the light of somebody else acting like an a hole,
you know, I mean, what's your thought. I mean, do
you think the suspension for the rest of the regular season,
and the stipulation of what it's possibly going to do
to his contract moving forward, do you think that's fair?
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I mean, I think it's a lot more than I
thought was going to happen to him. I thought maybe
he'd get fined.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
I would have he should be suspended for a game,
but I didn't know that they would do that, so
I was quite surprised to see the two game suspension.
I think the biggest issue when I've watched all of
these angles of the videos over and over and over,
is that DK could have avoided this situation. He's on
the sideline, the guy's yelling at him. All you have
(07:38):
to do is walk the other direction. Instead, he stood there,
listen to it for a bit, then chose to walk
up to the fan and start this altercation. The guy
is in the stands, He's not coming down on the field.
He's not going to come attack you. So if you
go the other direction, you avoid the whole thing. And
in this situation, it's your livelihood and your name. No
(07:59):
one knows who this guy is or knew who this
guy was before this altercation happened. Everyone knows who you are,
so you've got to protect the reputation that you have.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And he didn't do that.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
He put himself in this, in this situation, and he said,
you know, I feel for him. Yeah, I feel for
him in the sense that if this guy has had
if he's had issues with this guy over and over again,
or if this guy did say what DK's saying he
said and not what the fan is because the fans
saying he just called him by his full name, and
we're like, hired a lawyer already and has put out
a statement and is probably now gonna sue Dkay oh yeah,
(08:34):
and so in that But again, the reason I don't
feel for him is because it never had to happen.
All he had to do was go the other direction.
You are down on the field, you were twenty feet
away from him. You could have walked the other way
instead of turning around and going over to the fan
and Honestly, someone from the Steelers should have been on
it to have pulled him away as he started walking
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to the guy.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah yeah, well that teammate wise or coaching staff wise.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I mean, but then again, I don't know for sure
if DK is one that takes prodding or probing or anything.
Hey dude, do this. Here's the direction you need to go,
whether it's physically direction go to that direction or just
taking direction. I mean, I'm not gonna say that he's
completely uncoachable, but I'm going to say that he's not
(09:23):
the most coachable. Oh yeah, you know, I just don't
think that. I think that he has a little bit
of the I'm kind of a one of one. Yeah
you are physically, but you're not even close to one
of one between the years when it comes to how
to handle yourself. We watched it here and it was
one of the more frustrating things. There was frustration, legitimate
frustration about how he was used in the offense. And
(09:45):
you know, I mean I buy into a lot of
what Hugh says. I think Hughes football knowledge is off
the charts. So when he's saying you gotta take a
shot to this guy at least once a game or
once a half or whatever it is, and you have
to just try to pound the ball to this guy
because of what he brings to the table physically and
how he can change a game. I was on board
(10:07):
with that and understood that, and the fact that that
didn't happen for majority of the time that he was
a Seahawk, I can understand where frustration would be on
the flip side of it.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
There's other parts.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
I think that that maybe he doesn't do the same
as Jackson Smith and Jigba, Like wouldn't a quarterback first
and foremost want to be able to know you're going
to be exactly where you're going to be. I mean
to the half a yard, I mean exactly. I don't
think that he was that great at it. Otherwise, his
physical attributes combined with his route running. If it was
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like Jackson Smith and Jigba, he's not going to be
He's going to be the one setting all the records.
But now Jackson Smith and Jigma's blowing that stuff, blowing
that stuff out of the water, and good for Seahawks fans. Basically,
I mean, I don't think anybody is you know, sitting
here wishing that they had him back at thirty million
dollars a year so that he can get personal foul
penalties and we can hope that at some point reaches
(11:01):
his ceiling. But back to the kind of the idea
or the situation at hand, I'm with you. There's a
way in which you could handle it, which is very easy.
You just ignore them, right, And it's hard.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
It doesn't feel like I mean, you know, it doesn't
feel good to let someone just get away with saying
horrible things to you.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
No, doesn't feel good.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
And I mean for the sake of I mean, I'm
not one hundred percent sure the guy would have said
it or did say it somebody. There is people that
would say those things, and those people are not good people,
and it would be nice if they get caught, if
they're at a venue and they're saying things like that
to the athlete and get it, you know, kicked out.
And I don't know how you keep somebody from ever
coming back. Whenever they say somebody's banned forever. Yeah, it's
(11:45):
facial recognition when you walk into a stadium, But how
do they keep you out? Right, You're gonna have somebody
else buy the ticket. Your name never has to go
near it. You can just go walking in with the rest.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Of the herd.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
But the idea of you're out here for this game.
We just heard you call him the N word, or
we've heard what she called his mom. If we're going
to take DK at his word that that was said,
that's unfortunate. And yesterday I said, I how during my
career I was an easy target for heckling. Right, It
(12:16):
just with my name and what it rhymes with, and
being kind of a bigger guy. And I had a
you know, propensity to strike out, and so there'd be
I'd be the beer batter of the game, right where
if you strike out, beers are on sale for the
next half inning or something. Well, they would do that,
and I loved it. Like some I had teammates that
hated it. It added pressure. They didn't like the fact
(12:37):
that when they get two strikes the crowd really comes
alive because they want cheaper beer.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I mean I ate it up. I had sometimes when
people would maybe toe the line of going over the
top right where I don't know if fat shaming is
necessary now, that's completely different than a racial slur right
like in today's well in no time should it have been.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Okay, But I mean fifty years ago it was more common.
It was all the time, right.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I mean, if you when when African Americans got put
in yet you know, we're allowed to play in sports,
they got abused.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
When you say fifty years ago, I felt like that
was a really long time ago. That was still the eighties. Yeah,
that's how old we are, right.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, well seventy seventy seven, so it is even longer
than fifty years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
There years ago.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, but even fifty years ago, it wasn't good. It
wasn't it wasn't fun.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
It was worse for a black athlete back then than
it is now. That said, that doesn't mean that, hey,
since it's so much better, you rarely get called that
that you should just let it roll off your back. No,
it's not, it's not okay, I'm not okay. So, if
DK was telling the truth that the guy said that,
I can see why you'd want to punch him in
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the face, right, he deserves to be punched in the face.
You just can't do it, right then, correct, you can't.
I mean, you can not do it. It's unprofessional. And
you're right, it's not even about the money. It's not
about but it's not about the principle either. It's about
you have you and your name that you need to
(14:13):
stand on, right. I mean, as a kid, when I
was growing up, there was one of the big rules
was do not embarrass our family, meaning don't do things
that you know would come back and shine a light
as to my mom or dad being like, we didn't
raise you like that, like that, like if I ever
had that.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I got caught stealing one time.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I don't know why, I decided to steal some weightlifting
gloves when I was twelve, and it was the butt
whoop and I got and the grounding for the entire
summer was not because necessarily that I tried to take
something that was twelve dollars and I didn't pay for it.
It was the principal behind we didn't raise you. You're
(14:54):
not a thief. We didn't raise you that you can
just take something even if you don't have the money
for it. We didn't raise you in a way in
which you're going to act like that. And so it
was the embarrassment to the name right to my my
family's name, that it was like, you're going to you're
gonna pay for this one, gonna you're gonna feel this punishment.
This is going to be more than your average go
(15:14):
to your room and think about what you did type
of thing. And and to me, so that sticks with me,
and that's kind of part of the reason why when
we talk about all kinds of different topics, I have
a hard time with athletes more so today. Not to
say it hasn't always been there, because you've had athletes
that have have clap back at fans. You've had athletes
(15:34):
that have have done something like this before, wanted to
go into the stands, tried to go into the stands.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
You've had stuff like this happen.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
But it seems more now like there's the talk is more,
for sure, whether it's the talk amongst competitors on the
field is more, and then that the emboldened fan is more.
They can't wait to say stuff and they will. The
line has been pushed further to where they I think
they can get away with doing more. And then the
(16:03):
response to it or the players not having the ability
to just turn around and ignore it and just take
it as that's part of the game. You know part
of the entertainment aspect of this. As I play in
front of sixty seventy thousand people, and there's going to
be a nice little chunk them that are giant a holes.
They're going to say stuff that they shouldn't and MY
(16:24):
job is to just go out and continue to perform
for those that aren't a holes while that guy gets
to watch. I just have to ignore it and let
it go. And yet he just doesn't have the ability
to do that, which is a bit worrisome because the
real world is still out there.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Right, You're still living in the real world.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Even though you get to play a job and make
fantasy money while you just get to run around and
play football, you still are in the real world, and
majority of your life is going to be lived in
the real world. And I don't feel like this guy
has a temperament that allows him to really what's the
word like kind of gauge how am I supposed to act?
(17:06):
Based on this situation at hand. I feel like he
really misses the boat on certain things. And it's unfortunate
because I don't know for sure if you can teach
this age dog a new trick of how dude you
got to get yourself under control, man, because you're I
just I fear it's the Antonio Brown effect kind of right,
like you just for some reason, it feels like there's
(17:29):
a lot of athletes nowadays that because they live in
this world of I am pretty special, that it translates
outside of the game, and when you're not even playing
the game, you're standing on the sidelines. I don't have rules.
The rules of society don't necessarily pertain to me. And
I just don't think that's the case. And I think
that you end up running into a bunch of hardships
(17:50):
if you do think that's the case.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Yeah. Well, and I think in just in this situation too,
it's you know, there's so many videos out there, and
you can't hear this guy say the words that DK
has said. He's said right, so unless he said it
up close and nobody can hear it.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
There's one thing there, right.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
The other thing is DK notoriously has put himself above
his teammates, and here's another situation of him doing it
to an extreme level where now he is actually detrimental
to his team. They have two games left, they're trying
to make the playoffs, and now he's pending an appeal,
gonna miss him both. And then on top of that,
he's detrimental to himself in his livelihood because of what
(18:29):
he's done. And it's like you saw these small glimpses
of it on a much smaller scale when he was here. Right,
gets whine, he whinds when he doesn't get the ball
thrown his way, he gets angry when defenders get under
his skin, and those are the things that really, for
how long he's been in the league, somebody should have
been working with him on that, because it's so easy
(18:51):
for people to get under his skin, and so's there's
really no excuse for why this happens. And then you
need to think too as as the professional athlete. You
know what, it's ridiculous that these fans think because they
bought a ticket, they can say whatever they want to
us and we have to take it. I agree, that
is ridiculous, and I have no place in my heart
for a fan who thinks that they are owed that
(19:14):
because they paid money for a ticket. Right, But you
don't win if you engage, Right. If you don't engage,
you walk away, and then you go score a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Now you just won you shut that fan.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Up right, Yeah, that was.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Where I was going with the idea of I used
to enjoy the idea of getting backled, and again you
kind of wanted to real quickly correct the idea of
me getting made fun of because I'm big or fat
or bald or my name rhymes with bad words. That's
completely different than getting called the N word. One hundred
percent to understand that, right, the idea. I mean, some
(19:54):
people might say fat shaming is just as bad. I
don't necessarily I'm a big guy. Wasn't he a fat
when they were making fun of me? Not like I
am Now, I would say that, yes, they're not the same,
and yet it's the same concept. The concept is they're
trying to get under my skin. You have a couple options.
You can try to ignore it even though it pisses
(20:15):
you off.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
You can engage. You can never engage physically, but you
can engage. I actually because I saw it as an
opportunity to to kind of shut them up. Like when
people you hear me all the time, I don't like
when people are chirping, when they yapping and they talking
a bunch of trash. Why do I not like it
because it almost sets you up for when you go
(20:39):
fail that it makes it doubly bad. Right, you're talking
all this trash and then you go out and get burnt,
or you're talking all this trash and then you go
out there and you fail. To me, it's like, oh man,
that's got to sting twice as bad because you were
talking trash. Well, when a fan starts it would start
with me. I would end up immediately turn around, be like,
(21:00):
I'm so glad you got to come and watch me
play today, right, And then there'd be a couple of
fans laughing around him. He'd be like, oh, he's engaging, okay,
and he'd keep coming back.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Well.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Inevitably, it's like if I struck out and he's like, yeah,
that's right, you suck and this happened, I'd be like, yeah,
but I get to go back up there and try
to go yard next time, right, or next time it
came on deck, he would start talking and I'm like,
I'm gonna do this. This one's for you, kid, And
then eventually when i'd hit a bomb, I'd come back
and wink at or tip my cap to and be like,
(21:30):
you want to go get that it's probably like a
five dollars cab, right to go get that ball?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Right? Can you go get that for me? Next thing?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
You know, that whole section was like a fan of me,
not because I engaged, but because I engaged in a
way that was fun right now, different than being called
the N word, I understand. But I don't think DK
is capable of what I just said. I don't think
that he is capable of taking a Heckler and flipping
the script on him and turn it into I'm going
(21:58):
to show you how much control I have because I
don't think.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Yeah, where it's like you could go catch a touchdown
and then run over and give him the ball, yeah,
and then go back to the bench.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
I just unfortunately I don't think he has it. But no,
it is what it is. We will probably discuss this
a little further. We're gonna have a bunch of people
and we got to find out what else is on tap?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
What's on tap?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
What's on tap? All right?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
We got a lot going on today. The Mariners did
make a move. We're gonna discuss that. Uh, Philip Rivers,
I did want to talk a little bit about, uh,
the old man going out there and dealing again. Last
night it was in a loss, but he's still dealt.
We're gonna have Greg Bell. We're gonna have Mike k
He's a writer from Charlotte. He's gonna come on and
help us discuss the Panthers. We're gonna have the One
(22:42):
and Only Jean's Territory. We gotta get a little Gene
time in. We're gonna have FITZI on to discuss the
Kraken and the fact they got off the schneid a
little bit with the win last night. Tricky Ricky new Heizel,
We're gonna have him on discuss the college football playoffs.
I want to get Ashley's confidence meter. Where we're sitting
right now with something that comes to the Seahawks. And again,
we're going to talk a little bit more about the
(23:02):
Mariners free agency. But on the other side of this,
we are going to get into the Mariners and their
most recent signing and free agency on the other side
here at Sports Radio ninety three point three KGRFM. Although
that's a pretty funny game.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Yeah, it is a funny game because people get really
annoyed by that song.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
So I had to play it at least once.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Le Chris, Okay, I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Just like a PayPal commercial, you know, you mean twice
every break, every single time we're on, so.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
You'd have to play it like again right now, every.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Bumper in the middle of the segment.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Ago that commercial, I mean, PayPal must be paying a lot.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, I guess it's it's really something. I'll say that,
it's really something.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
That's why we make so much money.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Sure, it's always fun when you know every single word
of a commercial because you hear it.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Twice about every single break.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yeah, so all the listeners out there that do text
in like really PayPal enough enough yea, we get it.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
We're with you.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, we hear it too. So yeah, that's uh, it
is what it is. But I guess that's what pays
the bills.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Around here, the bills, and I did paypals of the bills,
and I did turn the lights on it. You see
about it your face now, look, you are so welcome.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I love it all right, Well, onto the topic at hand.
Mariners did make a move yesterday. Uh it's not like
Kyle Tucker, but I don't mind this deal.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
This this move.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
They ended up signing Rob Refschneider he's a kind of
a journeyman. I guess you'd say, I think he's thirty
four years old. Thirty four, Yeah, I think he turns
thirty five on opening Day. Okay, kind of a career
backup dude has not really ever had a season that
he goes out and puts up any sort of crazy numbers.
(24:45):
Not known for his defense, but he is known to
be able to play a lot of different positions.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
He can place, you can play.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Anywhere in the outfield, not great birth catch most of
the balls. He's played a little bit second, and he
has he can play some first base. And so I
think this is a move where you got yourself a
bit of you have a utility guy, but not for defense,
just because you can put him in anywhere. And he
rakes left handed pitching. I mean he's one of the
(25:14):
better right handed hitters against lefties as far as his
hard hit rate.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I mean, he's up there. I think it was Luke
Arkins had.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Wrote an article on it that I had read earlier
this morning, I think, and he was I don't remember
the numbers exactly, and I don't have in front of me.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I should have pulled that up.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
If I'm going to reference it, but it was something
along the lines of there was three hundred hitters that
had this minia bats against lefties, and he was like,
he was like twentieth or twenty fifth as far as
hard hit rate amongst all of them. I mean with
basically like Kyle Tucker, Kerry Carpenter, the guy that we
all hate because he's really good, really good and good looking. Yeah,
(25:55):
like you need things, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
How about you be as big strike out guy if
you're gonna look.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Like, yeah, come on, man, look at my smile. It's
really great.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, and I just hit game winners. How's that taste?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Oh yeah, suck it.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
So he's up there with him as far as hard
hit rate and whatnot, at least against left handed pitching.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
So it's kind of one of those you have check
a box.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I mean, it's at a minimum, I think it raises
the bar of your bench, ok, right, Like which matters
over the course of one hundred and sixty two games.
You're gonna need to give Josh Naylor a breather. At
some point in time. He can fill in there, He
could play some second, He can play anywhere in the outfield.
I think He's probably a guy that you could put
just about anywhere. Not shortstop, obviously, not catcher, but I
(26:41):
think you could put him just about anywhere. He's going
to not be great there, but he's going to do
the job when he gets up to bat.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So he's not gonna be like an everyday guy.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I don't think he's gonna be in every day.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Okay, So he's just gonna be the person that they're
kind of putting in to give people rest or fill
a hole if somebody knock on it gets hurt.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
I think he'll be your left handed I think he
I think he'll be your DH going into spring training.
Right now, I think he's your DH. You pencil in
every time there's a lefty start, okay, and then he's
coming off the bench against a lefty reliever if he
isn't in the game, because he's that good.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
So your best.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
The best thing he's bringing to the table is his
offense against lefties.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
So it to me then brings up the idea of okay, well,
then whose our DH against.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Right handed pa?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Oh, do we have to we have to have one
for both sides of the players.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Well that or I mean his splits are significantly different.
I had them pulled up his his against right handers,
he's hitting two twenty nine. This is over the course
of you know, his entire career, which is it's been
a decent career, but it's still limited amount of bats.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Eight hundred bats or so.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
He's got a two twenty nine batting average against the
righty's versus a two eighty one against lefties. Okay, significantly
more power production, everything that he brings to the table.
He's really good against lefties and not so much. And
so to me, the first name that popped into my.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Head, rights against righties you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yes, against righty's, was Carlos Santana. Yes, I mean older.
We like what he brings to the clubhouse. We know
he fits in there.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
We know they love him.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
He's still he still keeps like fighting father time. Like
everybody's like, well he's old, we can't.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
And then every year you see him at least have
a couple of highlights on Sports Center doing something.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeap. So I mean that's a way where this is
just a one year deal.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
By the way, the Mariners sign Rob Refschneider for one year,
six and a quarter mill I mean, you go out there,
maybe get I don't know how much. Carlos Santana would
be eight million bucks or something like that. So you're
paying fourteen million bucks for a dh Okay, you get
two of them, two for the price of.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Two for the price one. We put them up there
at the same time.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I don't think so. I think that's against the rules. Okay,
it's not a bad idea. I wouldn't want to go
up there. That would really suck it fouls one off.
You're both swinging. Oh no, web gb Yeah, it makes
you shake, you know, isn't that?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Isn't that what you call those hebgb's usually Oh, heb gbs.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
I've never heard.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Hermiston we say the web gbs. Maybe we don't. I
think he be GB's is right. I just called it
the web GB's, all right. Well, I don't want to
give anybody else the web gbs because I just got.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Them and it made me.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
It made me, It gave me goosebumps, all right, way, No,
not in a good way at all. Well, we got
to witness, uh, the old Man Rivers experiment again last night,
and I saw some folks out there tweeted us, saying, well,
now I feel a lot better about our defense after
watching him dice that up.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I got.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I got a couple of questions to ask Ashley about
father time and old man Rivers if he could beat
it stick around here at Sports Radio ninety three point
three k RFM. Oh my goodness, I had no idea.
That is interesting because yeah, I of all times, for
those that don't know, I always guess Hughie, and it
never is Huie.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
And apparently they did put out a Christmas album, so
we might play all their Christmas songs today.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Well, they've basically written all of the Christmas album.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Yeah, they just haven't performed them all. But now we
have found we've unlocked something.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Well, I'm glad that we did. Thank you, Hughie. Thank
you for all of the Christmas music that you've written.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, and all the music ever, Yes.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
All of all music that you are basically known for
and don't get accredited for. Don't get the credit for
because we appreciate you, because other people steal your work,
and that's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
It is because I know you're the best.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
You're a victim of circumstances.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Actually, I don't know if I like Huey Lewis.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Wow, well that's taking a turn.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, well it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I don't you know what it's because I don't really
know what he sounds like.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Because you do think everybody is him, so you don't
know what his actually sound is.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I'm sure he was good back at some point.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
He's got great music, does he?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yeah, okay, I'll take your word for it. Anyways. You
know who else has great music? I don't Philip Rivers?
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Oh yeah, no, great, sure, Oh he's got an extensive collection.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I bet he does. I bet he does.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
That's probably what he's been doing the last few years
when he wasn't playing football. You know, I couldn't stand
him when he was a Charger quarterback, even though I
respect him. And that's usually those that I dislike the most,
it's because they are really good.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, I don't really. You know, you're some.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Guy that just never did anything. You weren't really all
that good. You never really hurt my feelings.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Unless you're just a total turd.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah yeah, but those guys don't. If you're a turd
and you're not good, yeah, you probably don't see you
very long. No, no, no, And he didn't do anything
to steal my joy from my root and for my team. Well,
when he was a Charger quarterback, he did plenty of it.
And then he would talk trash, Dad, Gimmett and all
of the other not bad words that he would say somehow,
And he was the best trash trucker in the league
(32:02):
for years.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
But I don't have that now.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I mean now I didn't want I don't want him
to win because he plays on a team, an AFC team.
Now there are chances of making the playoffs. I think
if dwindled to five percent after their loss last night
to San Francisco, which means something around here because San
Francisco keeps.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Hanging around and hanging around.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Uh, but it wasn't at Philip rivers expense or at
his fault. Anyways, he coming off the couch, he looked
okay against Seahawks, even though he didn't do anything special.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
He didn't put up great numbers.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
He just yeah, he'll put up like one hundred and
thirty yards or.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, yeah, he just dinked and dunked. But kept him
in the game. I mean, they were they had a
chance all the way down to the basically down to
the end until that little tipped pick that he threw.
But to me, it was a good showing for a
guy who hasn't been in an NFL game, going against
a vaunted defense and you know, a team that is
right now, you know, arguably the best team in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
So it was good. Now, you give him a full
week of practice.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
And he comes out and I mean, he was good
last night. He did end up having one interception that
was not real great, and Troy Aikman was basically blaming
it on the tight end that he turned his head
too quickly, which gives a linebacker no reason to respect
him going past him.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
I would imagine there's some truth to that.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
It also was not a great I mean, you got
to see the guys right there now. He did break
on it, made a good play pick six, and that
kind of was the end of the end. But it
does bring up the question I heard on the way
in from LeVar and Brady and Jonas. I heard them
talking about do you think he wants to come back now?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Because he afterwards he was talking about how fun it?
You know, it's hard because they've lost and so I'm
just gonna sit there and go, gosh, this is daggum.
This is great because you lost both games and you
came in hoping to be able to right the ship
from the downward trajectory that they've been going on, uh
and get him into the playoffs, and and you haven't
done it. Now you've went against the Seahawks and the Niners.
(34:06):
It's not like you had some soft landing. You didn't
do it. But at the same time, he wanted to
express how that's been fun for him to come out
and you know, he's he's said in interviews, how what
if I got there and I popped my achilles my
first you know, first time I dropped back like somebody
about his age has done before. What if I go
out there and to throw a bunch of interceptions and
(34:26):
just fall flat on my face.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Well he hasn't done that. In two games.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
He's went out there and performed well, much better after
a week of practice than he did even the you know,
basically coming into the building, putting his jersey on and
going out there strapping it up against the Seahawks. So,
I mean, some people are like, shit, is he gonna
come back? I think the idea of if he comes back,
he's not going to come back if Daniel Jones is
going to be there, right And I don't think he's
(34:51):
I don't think any teams like you know what that's
that's who is our starter. Yeah, because he's getting away
with it right now. There was one play yesterday that
the blitzer got in there and kind of hit him
a little bit low and missed him. I think he
pulled off a little bit because he wasn't going to
get there in time, and so he kind of pulled
off and just bumped his leg and he tipped over
(35:12):
like an old man.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
And I get that feeling. I understand your your feeling.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
There going down.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
And so I don't see it as something that he's
going to come out of retirement. I think he probably
rode off into the sunset knowing that his best days
were behind him. And yet this was one of those
you know, a friend calls, Yeah, the situation is comfortable enough.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Really, there's nothing bad.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
I mean, injury could happen, but aside from that, an
injury can happen when you're home, you know, walking down
your stairs, but you know, more.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Likely in an NFL game than walking down your stairs,
I assume.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
But injuries can happen, so aside from an injury, he's
not going to taint his career. And yet he had
the opportunity to write the ship. What if he came
in and beat the Seahawks in this first start and
then beat and then all of a sudden they make
the after he gets to make a playoff run, it
would have been music.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Or a movie work.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, you know, for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
So I but I don't see him coming back. I
don't see him, you know. I think he's probably enjoying
the fact that he's getting to play again, you know,
after he probably had written it off like well that's done.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
You know, since he coaches that he can still do it.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, and he does, and he does.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
He definitely he's better than some of the quarterbacks are
out there, even at forty four years old. He's he's
better than some of the guys that these guys are
having to run out there. But he's not going to
come back and play for free. He's not gonna Definitely,
I don't think he would come back and be a backup.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
So we shall see.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
I think the old man Rivers is you know, probably
a couple more games and then he'll ride off into
the sunset again. But pretty impressive showing for an old
dude to come off the couch and do.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
What he did.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
All right, On the other side, we're going to get
to talk to Greg Bell. We'll find out about the
injuries that were sustained. We'll find out what the Seahawks
are thinking, how he's feeling about them going up against
Carolina Panthers, right here at Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM.
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