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Speaker 1 (00:15):
All right, seven o'clock hour here on a football Friday,
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
We got Greg Bell joining us here in a matter
of moments.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
More on Sam Darnold coming.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Your way as the big game goes down tomorrow night
in Santa Clara between the Seahawks and the forty nine
Ers for the division title, for the number one seed
or home field throughout the NFC playoffs.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It is here as we sit on the eve.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Chuck Powell, Bucky Jacobson, and Anders Hurst with you here
as we start.
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Our number two on a football Friday.
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And before we get to Greg Bell, who'll join us
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Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Top story Seahawks taking on.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
The forty nine Ers tomorrow night, five o'clock is the kickoff.
Everything it feels like in the world is at stake
in this game. You know, Ander's getting ready to have
a baby. If the Seahawks win, he gets to name
him Sam Oh.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
If the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Win, though, he has to name Sala Sala Yeah, dame baby,
Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, there is a soccer player named
Salo there.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
The other game on Saturday will be Carolina taking on
Tampa Bay kickoff, there is one thirty. It's not entirely
winner wins the division because Atlanta has mucked things up
a little bit for Tampa Bay. If Carolina wins tomorrow,
they won the division, they walk off as division champions.
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If Tampa Bay wins, then Tampa Bay still needs help.
Atlanta would have to lose to the Saints on Sunday
in order for Tampa to then win the division. So
it's not nearly as cut and dry as I think
they hoped it would be when they made the schedule
for week number eighteen. But you do have playoffs on
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the line. Certainly Tampa Bay has to win in order
to get there, and so from that standpoint, it is
a playoff atmosphere that'll take place in Tampa, Florida. Charles Cross,
by the way, is out for the Seahawks. Josh Jones
is even questionable. We'll talk to Greg more about that
coming up here at seven o five. Also, Baltimore at
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Pittsburgh Sunday night.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
That is cut and dry.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
The winner gets into the playoffs as Division champs. Loser
is out and Lamar Jackson says, I cannot miss it.
He is going to play one hundred percent guaranteed. According
to the Ravens Quarterback College Football. Yesterday, the quarterfinals of
the College football Playoff couple blowouts. He had Oregon twenty
three nothing over text Tech thirty eight to three. Indiana
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crushed Alabama. They saved the best game for last, ole
Miss and Georgia an instant classic, and ole Miss wins
it thirty nine to thirty four. And so your final
four is now Miami versus ole Miss next Thursday, four
thirty and Oregon versus Indiana next Friday at four thirty.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The winners go on to the National Championship Game.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And oh, by the way, if that's not enough, those
teams preparing for their two biggest games of the year.
Potentially the portal opens today, that's right, So they got
to deal with that and it'll stay open until the
sixteenth of January. Cracking one over the Predators last night,
four to one. They won five out of their last
six games. They'll play again tonight at Vancouver against the Canucks.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Let's talk football. Let's talk shop with Greg Bell.
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Speaker 1 (04:12):
I'm not even making this up, not just kissing up
to the sponsor. I did toast the New Year's with
cool Diamond Prosecco.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Hey, nice, I did? Yeah I did not, But you.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Did not know?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Okay, say glad somebody did. Let's say Greg Bell did. Greg,
Happy New Year.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
To you, Good morning, Happy New Year.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah. Did you have a good time? Did you stay
up till midnight?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I stayed up till three am? Actually? Who? We were
at the Sea Monster in Wallingford seeing a Prince A
tribute with the cover band there. They have a great
house band. Anyone who's been there, and that's what I'm
talking about. It's a funk place and yeah, we had
a great time.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I know that Greg Bell has never done morning radio.
He's still able to stay up till three o'clock.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Actually have done morning ready. In fact, I feel like
it do morning radio every day from July until about January.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
There's a difference between getting up and having a phone
call at seven o'clock and doing a show.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
There, Greg, previous a place to think, cut up a
little bit earlier than you did.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I understand, all right, Well, yeah that was a previous life.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I
couldn't do it right now.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
This is my point. I couldn't stay until three o'clock ever,
in I have to have some something running through my
body to do it.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
All right, Greg, let's get it going.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Seahawks forty nine ers tomorrow night in Santa Clara. Give
us the latest on the left tackle situation. I mean,
we can read that Charles Cross is out, but what
does this mean for Josh Jones? What does this mean
for the offensive line?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Well, Josh Jones is trending toward playing now. He practiced
yesterday for the first time this week. Listen is questionable,
but he looked the very fact he was the field
yesterday the last full practice. I'm gonna like practice for
to get on the plane this afternoon. To Santa Clara,
but I think he's gonna play. We'll talk to Mike
McDonald this afternoon. They did bring up Amary Kite, the
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undrafted rookie from Central Florida who has impressed them since
the spring. It signed him to the active roster from
the practice squad as an insurance contingency plan. But I'm
gonna think right now without how you talk to McDonald.
Reading the tea leaves at what I saw yesterday. I
think it's gonna be Josh Jones starting again, and they
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like what they've seen them. As Klint Kubik said yesterday,
as we've been talking about, this is why they signed
him the two games that Jones has played for Cross
being injured. They like what they've seen from Josh Jones,
and it looks like perhaps crisis averted that Jones will
be able to start in place Across on Saturday night.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
All right, Well that's I mean, it's not great news.
Everybody wants their first round dude a Cross out there,
But you're right, I mean, as long as both of
them out, Josh Jones just filled an ad, I'll stay
with the injury area. I mean, Rashid Shaheed missed some
time with that concussion.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Is he good to go? Well, yeah, he hasn't missed
any game time. Apparently he's not even on the injury list,
which means he was full go practice the last two
days and during the concussion protocol. If you're full going
practice both days and not even on the injury list
for the game, that means you must have passed all
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five stages of the NFL's concussion protocol. This isn't just
a rushback job. We need him for this game. First
of all, Remember both teams are in the playoffs, so
there will actually be as good as big as this
game is tomorrow night. They are actually more important games
gonna come weeks to follow for each team. But the
Shaheed situation, the fact he's not even on the injury
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report listenings he's passed all five stages of the NFL
concussion protocol, and a team doctor isn't the only one
that can do that. By rule, you have to have
an independent third party neurologist clear him as well. So
he's been cleared by at least two doctors, one of
them doesn't get paid by the Seahawks. That he can play.
That's a surprise. Most concussions in the NFL. I thought
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that the average over this new concussion protocol time that
they've had for twelve years or so, it's a nine
day return to play, But every head injury is different.
He was smiling and very joking and looking like himself
yesterday after practice, and that's just potentially a big deal.
If he is healthy enough as he looks like he
is to play, He's a game breaker, a difference maker
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and field position, somebody that can take the Niners coverage
off of Smith and Jigba and somebody they didn't have
the first time they played way back in September.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Kobe Bryant, I'm assuming will not play. And then let's
also so we can wrap up the injury portion of
our conversation today, the forty nine ers injuries and how
they may or may not impact this game.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, I think from what I've gathered from San Francisco,
and I'm going to talk to some more people down there,
my buddy's down there today, it looks like Shanahan might
be a little bit gamesmanship with some of the questionables.
He's got Trent Williams with the hamstring questionable, He's got
up and style with concussion questionable, which suggests he hasn't
cleared through the protocol yet. Ricky Pisov, who's barely played
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this season, questionable, So we'll see to be determined. They're
just not rolling them out yet. I think they're trying
to keep Mike McDonald guessing a little bit. Last anyone
saw Trent Williams Sunday night. He could barely walk on
that hamstring injury he got early in the game against
the Bears. We'll see on that, and I'm sure it'll
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be wait till game time before they actually declare them
in are out. But suffice to say whether the side
of all those guys, the Niners are still a shove
of themselves on defense. No Fred Warner boss missed most
of the year. Those are two all pros right there,
and the Niners have the fewest sacks in the NFL.
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That could be a bit big difference between Week one
and Week eighteen for the Seahawks offense. No pass rush.
The Maners have not gotten to any quarterback this year,
and that may give Donald time with Wayguard Smith and
Jigba for deep breaking routes that he likes to do.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Yeah, I mean the Fred Werner and Bosa were the
leading tacklers in that Week one, and Bosa I think
was the one that sacked Sam Donald caused that fumble that.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Just straight into the quarterback. Yes it was.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
Yeah, So those guys being missing is going to help
as far as that part of the battle goes. When
it goes Shanahan versus McDonald. I mean, this is no
short sample size. You're in the final week of the
regular season. Their offense has been flying high against some
subpar stuff and the Seahawks defense has been performing.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Really well as well.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
So who's got the advantage coming into this final one?
Their offense are our defense.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I think the Seahawks defense for one reason, Bucky nick
Emon worry and McDonald has something no other coach has
that can play all over the field and someone they
could actually put in man coverage, shadowing Christian McCaffrey. Some
of what makes McCaffrey so great, his athleticism so great,
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is that teams don't think they can afford to cover
with their best cover guy, the most athletic cover guy. Well,
in Nicky Manworrey, they have like a co best cover
guy along with Devin Witherspoon, and because he's a running back,
and because he often comes out of the centers of formations,
they can devote Emon Worree to almost being a spy
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on McCaffrey to take away his yards after the catch,
short tackles, guy goes down. There are very few in
the league that can do that, and there are very
few coaches that would say, I want to put my
best cover gun on a running back and leave Jan
Jennings and George Kittle and everybody else roaming free in
the middle of the defense. But Seattle can do that,
and that makes them unique in the league. I can
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tell you. I can assure you that Nicky Manworrey was
a huge part of the Week one game plan defense
and he went out after four plays. And the fact
that he's healthy tomorrow night is the biggest difference in
this first matchup to the second one. It to me
spells advantage Seattle just in that regard against Christian mcavan. Now,
McCaffrey is an MVP all Pro. I mean, he's elite,
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and so he's going to get some of his But
I'm just saying the Seahawks gematically and in personnel have
something nobody else in the league. As for McCaffrey.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
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Sam Darnald and his turnover issue.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
How are the.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Seahawks handling a topic that a lot of people are discussing,
How Sam handling it this week? How are his coaches
handling the idea of making sure Sam Donald doesn't turn
the ball over more than what is responsible?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Well, Chuck, yesterday, it was a noticeably looser, very joking
Sam Donald. I mean, he went out of his way
to joke with all this. He's not usually like that
quite as much. Here's joking about his hair being unruly.
He's joking about the lookalike the CBS found in the
stands and Charlotte staying Donald and how he wants to
meet him and maybe set an auograph for him. His
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San Clemente High school football team's coming up on a
plane to the Bay Area. I don't know if it's
the coach, the whole players, or what, but I was
told and he said yeah. I asked, Hm, about that yesterday. Yeah,
I heard that too. I'm gonna have to text my
coach and find out who was all coming. So he's
in really good spirits and really lose two days before
the game, but he says, I have to be better,
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and I can be better. The turnovers are unacceptable. Donald
said it doesn't matter if the ball's tipped, and maybe
this while all turnovers aren't the same, ultimately to my responsibility.
Clint Kobe acts very upfront about the turnovers. He says,
what we've been talking about and I've contended for months.
He says, we cannot be a championship team turn them
ball over like this, and so that's Does that change? Well, okay,
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so what's the upside of all that? Does that change
how Kubac calls games? Is going to be more conservative
and take fewer risks down the field? No, I don't
think it will. As I mentioned off the top, the
lack of a forty nine ers pass rush tells me
they're going to be as wide open and pushing them
all down the field as they've been in a while.
I mean, this might be early season aerial circus time
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for the Seahawks, especially Jackson Smith and jigbb deep down
the field. I think that's going to be their game plan.
I think it's going to be anything but conservative to
try to avoid turnovers. As Mike McDonald keeps saying, we
don't want them to quit pushing the ball down the field,
and there's a little bit of cost of doing business
to these turnovers. If they push the ball down the
field as deeply as they have been all season. I
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think you're going to see more of that tomorrow night.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
There's, you know, the conversation about running back and this
team obviously wants to run the ball up there towards
top of the league. As far as how how often
they do run the ball. I mean, Ken Walker just
a couple weeks ago went off against the Rams and
then last week Zach Charboney is do you think running
back wise, they're going to try to establish a run
like they always do And is there possibly a shorter
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leash if you start seeing charbonnay excel or if he
ends up being the hot hand, well.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
They're definitely gonna run. Then mean quit Kubak, that's why
he's here. We saw in the Rose Bowl yesterday a
team that can't run and what they go and Ryan Grubb,
And that's why Ryan Grub's nott the play caller anymore
they go to run. They still run it more than
anybody in the league percentage of play call times second
most in the league in actual run play calls. Yet
they're still diving the twenties on yards per carry under
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four yards per Kerry. So they can run and even
when they're not running it effectively, and I think that's
going to happen again tomorrow night. To answer your second question, yeah,
I think they will be. It's a good situation for
the schematically and game plan wise to be in that
they've had two one hundred yard backs in the last
four weeks or close to it in Walker's case, and
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they are going to ride both. And then I think
even though McDonald says we don't do the hot hand thing,
he's his explanation is there are certain plays that we
like charbone with looks like outside zone. Based on last
week's game, they won a lot of heavy outside zone
and there are certain plays we like Kenneth Walker in
and so if the game plan calls for more outside zone,
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last week's game says it's going to be more charbonate Tomrnight.
This defense, especially without Fred Warner in it, they can
move inside or outside zone because you would think without
Bosa and Warner that this is a different game plan
than it was in Game one. So suffice to say,
they will be running, especially on early downs, and a
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big key to the game, as it is in most games,
including for the Seahawks defense to Mornight, is how much
can they limit gains on first and second down to
make third downs long? Thirds downs long have been advantaged
Seahawks on defense, and third downs long on offense has
been often when Sam Donald's turned the ball over, all.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Right, well there you go, it's on. Here we go
Saturday night for all the marbles.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
What's your expectation at this point?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I really think that the Bosa and Warner not being
there and Nick even worry on McCaffrey are the decisive
advantages in Seattle's favor, and if Donald doesn't turn it
over us I've been saying for months now, if Donald
doesn't give Purdy in the forty nine ers a short field,
I'm not sure how often the forty nine ers can
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drive down the field and score touchdowns on Seattle's defense.
I think the Seahawks win because of Nick Even Worry.
We'll see how many yards and touches and scores Christian
McCaffrey ends up with. But it would surprise me if
it's more than he's averaging and used to getting. I
think you're gonna see the full Nick even Warre experience
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from Mike McDonald tomorrow night, and it's going to be
decisive on defense.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
All right.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Well, safe travels, and you have a lot of responsibility.
I don't want you hanging out till three o'clock with
your friends again listening to rock and roll music.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah. I'm actually gonna be a plane from nine until
midnight tonight, so that'll curtail my social active.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
It's every time to hit to town when you get there.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Fortunately I'm finding the San Jose which rolls up at
about married pms, so I won't have no chance to
get in tonight.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
All right, Greg, thank you very much, sir. We appreciate it.
Happy New Year, and we'll talk to you Monday.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Happy New Year, Happy weekend.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Thank you, Greg Bell our Seahawks inside of joining us.
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All right, Coming up next, we will discuss Sam Donald,
the things that Greg said, the things that all of
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It's your big moment, Sam Donald, Come on, Cinderella, we
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holmgan at nine thirty.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
We'll have your Friday Oho at eight o'clock.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
It feels very Monday around here. That forgive us a
little bit. If we start talking like it's Monday.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It does feel very Monday ish. You slip into it.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
But no, we had a couple of days off and
here we are, we land smack dab in the middle
of a football Friday.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
For goodness sake.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Big fan of Friday, So I'm glad that we keep
reminding ourselves that it is Friday. And there is a
lot of stuff going on. So big, big game tomorrow,
certainly certainly the biggest, and we need our quarterback to
play his best.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
And I realize it's been a little while, it's been
a little bit since Sam Darnold's been at the top
of his game. Certainly hasn't played in his last seven
games as well as he played in his first nine game.
The statistics bear that out, But still has played well
enough this season, Bucky that he's a pro Bowl In
vit he led the team to its most points scored
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in a season in franchise history.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
We've got a shot at the.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Number one seed here tomorrow with a victory home field advantage.
I don't know if anybody saw that coming. Sam Darnold
has been a runaway success story as quarterback for the
Seattle Seahawks, and yet so much conversation the last couple
of weeks about that turnover rate that puts him at
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the top or bottom depends on how you look at it.
In the National Football League, he's turning the ball over
too much. But I heard Hugh Millan will be with
us at nine o'clock enough over the course of the year,
and I've heard Mike McDonald enough over the course of
the year that my opinion certainly mirrors those actually not mirrors,
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but goes with that.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I'm I'm on that bus.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
To me, I don't want Sam Donald to play conservatively tomorrow.
I don't want to risk losing that way. I'm in
the let it rip camp. And yes, there are things.
I mean, you've brought up quite a bit, like I
don't want you to be careless in the red zone.
We got to come away with points there, and there's
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a there is a fine line between being aggressive and reckless,
and I need you to sort of be on the
aggressive side of that line and not on the reckless
side of that line. But I want Sam Donald to
play the way Sam Donald's played all season long, and results,
whatever results, be damned, whatever comes of it, because I
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think that we benefit a lot more from Sam Donald
playing aggressive.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Then we get hurt by it.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
And so I'm with Hugh, I'm with coach McDonald, and
I'm expecting Sam Donald to go out there tomorrow night
and let it rip.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
And I'm all about it.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Yeah, I don't see it changing. And yet that doesn't
mean that the turnover part can't change. I mean, if
you just think you're right the last seven games and
seven games ago was the four interception game against the
Rams that obviously was the outlier, the biggest stinker of
them all. I mean, it skews the stats in a
bad direction. Hugh ended up having a conversation with MJ
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that I ended up going back and listening to because
I heard it was really good stuff, and he was
talking about how, yeah, the interceptions don't.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Consider a football expert putting a talk show host in
his place really good stuff.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
I think it's great, especially that one, and so just
how he was saying it doesn't the interceptions don't necessarily
dictate points that you cost your team or or wins
and losses. As a matter of fact, the exact opposite
he was talking about over the last six years, that
those that put the ball at risk a little bit
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they also have more success. And Sam Darld he breaks,
I mean, Hugh does it better than anybody breaking down
what all the numbers are and then what those correlate to.
I mean, it's just that's the fact, okay. And you
can if people want to get stuck on those are
twenty interceptions, you just that's just a fact. Okay, Well
it is, but they're not all created the same, and
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just at times if you can't recognize that, at times
a turnover is going to happen. But if you handcuff
a guy and say don't you ever turn the ball over, that,
you're going to limit your ceiling what.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
You can do.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
And if you can't recognize that, then you can't recognize it.
And and so to me, I mean, with the exception
of that four interception game, which you can't you can't
do that, you can't go out there and turn the
ball over.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
You almost won that game, yep.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And then they lost a turnover battle to him again
by what three and beat them.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah the next time they face Yeah, and that one.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
I mean a lot of things had to bounce their
way in order to pull that one out, but they
did it. They came back and won. The bottom line
is you got a w without that four interception game.
If it was just a three interception game, you probably
end up right now on eleven game win streak and
you're not. It's not this conversation about is there really
a great team in the NFL. They would be hands,
head and shoulders above everybody else. Had they he not
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thrown four interceptions that game, just thrown't two, they would
be on an eleven game win streak. They'd be the
number one seed locked up, they'd be resting players this week.
They would be everybody be talking about that is a
super Bowl favorite. I don't know for sure if anybody's
going to beat them. That's what everybody'd be talking about.
Just with a couple passes that hit the turf versus
landing in the rams receivers. And it's in large part
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because of him. So the idea of they probably should
move on, they should be the should probably you know,
just cut bait with this guy. You know, maybe draft
somebody or look, no, no, no, the dude is going
out and he's doing what it takes to win. I'll
say this, and I don't know how you can make
it any more simple. The difference between being a good
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or great quarterback or just player in any sport is
your ability to overcome when you fail. I mean, every
single person that's played any sport has had a game.
Well maybe not every person, but any person that you're
watching on TV playing a sport has had a moment
when they are unstoppable. They're in that zone and they
go five or five, or they you know, go fifteen
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for sixteen and five touchdowns in a high school game.
It's what they do when they have a bad game
or they make a bad throw that costs their team.
How do you get that short memory? Have a memory
of a goldfish, Get rid of that and be ready
to go back and do what your team needs you
to do. Not scared, not apprehensive, not overly cautious. If
you can do that, that's what it will dictate whether
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or not you can keep moving forward in the game.
And Sam Darnold has evolved from the quarterback he came
into the league as to what he is now and
he has figured out that, yeah, there's going to be mistakes,
and I can't make the bad ones. I have to
limit those, you know, where you're costing my team points
or given the other team a really shit But if
you can just go out there and still let it
rip in spite of the fact that everyone swat it's
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gonna hurt, I think that you're gonna be good. And
he has been doing that majority of the season.
Speaker 10 (27:10):
We talk so much about process versus result in baseball,
especially with batting. Right, if you go up with the
right process, you're not gonna get the right result every
single time. It's the same theory applies with football. Right,
if you're doing the right things, you're not always gonna
you know, avoid interceptions. You're not gonna throw a touchdown
every single pass. You're not gonna score points every single drive.
(27:30):
But I totally agree with when the first half of
the season, up until about the first Rams game, he
was letting it loose. And I think something in that
game the four interceptions is like, Okay, we can't do that.
And a lot of people think when you have such
an elite defense that you just can't lose the game offensively.
So you play incredibly conservative. I actually kind of lean
the other way. I'm like, because you have such good defense,
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you can overcome the mistakes you make, and it leaves
you more room for error on that front. Now, obviously
there's a there's a line where you don't want to cross,
but I think because of how good your defense is,
you should be able to kind of have that margin
for air that you normally would not have.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
So let it loose. Sam, I totally agree with both
of you guys.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, maam, Yeah, I think teams that should go for
it on fourth down more frequently when you have a defense. Yes, yeah,
that's that's my theory as well. Speaking of baseball, you
brought up the point in that conversation from last week
about you know, if you've got a guy who's hitting
fifty home runs a season and knocking in one hundred
(28:34):
and thirty runs, do you really worry that he's striking
out a little too much?
Speaker 4 (28:40):
You know?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Are you gonna tell him to change his batting approach
because we need more balls and play, we need more singles,
or are you gonna be pretty happy that you're a
first place team with a guy that's hitting fifty home
runs really for you, for you this this season, and
that's sort of what we're talking about with Sam and
(29:02):
you know, Hugh does the mathematical breakdown, but at the
bottom line of it is that everybody seems to think
that turnovers equals this and production equals that.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Well, the numbers suggest that more.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Aggressive quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Have more success in the National Football League, and so
if you want to just focus on not turning the
ball over, then you're not going to get the offensive
production that you've been getting all season long from a
guy who's right now got his team with the second
most points in the National Football League. And so I'm
(29:44):
gonna live with it. I'm gonna live with it. Mike
McDonald's gonna live with it. Hugh Millan's gonna live with it.
If he throws a couple. I mean, you can't throw four.
You're gonna lose the game if you have a minus
four turnover margin tomorrow. I can live with minus one
if it means Sam Darnold's ripping it and getting JSN involved,
getting other receivers involved, and so to me, I think
(30:05):
it's just I think the conversation is over and I
want Sam Donald to go out there and employ as
aggressively as he has all season long. We're going to
talk more about that with Hugh Millen coming up at
nine o'clock today. Coming up next, there's an awful lot
of other stuff going on in the National Football League
here on the final week of the regular season. We
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Alright, eight o'clock hours coming up, but we've got your
Friday ocho for you.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
That's right, it is a football Friday.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
I know during the holidays we lose track of the days,
and when I say.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
We, I mean me.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
But today is a football Friday, and so we will
have our ohow coming up at the top of the hour,
plus g Millin and nine Mike Homer to nine thirty.
There's a lot more going on, it turns out, in
the National Football League this weekend than just the Seahawks
and forty nine ers. Even though that's certainly what we
are focused on a lot of different things taking place
that are going to be settled on Sunday, Saturday and Sunday,
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and not just playoff appearances and positioning.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Either. The number one.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Pick probably gonna go to the Las Vegas Raiders. Leave
it to them to blow it in Week eighteen against
the Kansas City Chiefs, But sounds to me like they've
decided to take care of everything. Anybody that tries, we
will pull you out of the game on Sunday. Seems
to be the Raiders' mentality heading into this final game.
(32:00):
They're gonna try, They're gonna get the number. There's such
a huge discrepancy between the value of the number one
overall pick and the number two pick in this draft.
It feels like that the Raiders, I don't think are
going to allow I think I think Spytack will tackle
his own running back if he tries to score late
in the game against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
Well, I mean we saw that just even last week,
right Max Crosby. They're like, all right, dude, you're not
going to play, And then he comes out and posts
a video of him shooting jumpers in his home basketball gym.
I mean, just that is not good, not a good look.
And yet, yeah, I mean, if you're not going to
be doing if you're not going anywhere, I suppose, what's
the point if you're the front office. Now, the players
(32:43):
that are going to be on the field, they're still
fighting for their job. They're still saying, you're going to
clean house around here. And I want to be somebody
that you know, keeps my job, so to speak. Unless
you're a Max Crosby, you're probably like, I know, I
still have a job in the NFL, So i'd be
great if you'd let me go. I'll go and throw
you under the bus about your decision to basically tank
this thing. We'll see, I wouldn't be surprised if they
screw it up too well.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Speaking of jobs, Black Monday is coming, so there'll be
a lot of head coaching firings coming up on Monday morning.
That'll be a huge topic of conversation as well, one
that we won't be able to delve too deeply into
because we'll be recapping Seahawks forty nine ers on Monday morning,
but that certainly is going to be a big story.
And this Troy Aikman thing I didn't think anything of,
(33:28):
and I actually heard a pretty good breakdown of this
this morning.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
As a matter of fact, the show teased that they were.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Going to talk about Troy Aikman becoming a consultant for
the Miami Dolphins, and I'm like, really, on football Friday,
with coming off of those college football playoff games and
getting ready for this weekend, you just think, because Dan
Marino called up his buddy Troy Aikman, that this is
something worth talking. I mean, you're gonna have to really
sell this one to me, and they did. They pulled
(33:56):
it off. Chris Canty makes the point that you know,
Troy Aikman has been one of the most critical analysts of.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
TUA for the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And also Troy Aikman as one of those coaches that
does not like soft coaches. He blamed Barry Switzer for
the Cowboys not winning five to six Super Bowls because
he wasn't much of a disciplinarian and things just got
out of control with the Dallas Cowboys, even though they
were sitting there on a dynasty. They still won three
(34:31):
and they won one with Switzer, but he felt they
could have won more. So all of a sudden, like, Okay,
now I get your point. They're bringing in Troy Aikman,
Dan Marino's buddy is bringing in his buddy, Troy Aikman
to be a consultant on this thing because Troy knows
the league better than Dan, who probably never leaves South
Beach anymore. And Dan's tapping into what what Troy, what
(34:57):
disciplinarian out there that he would want as a head
coach because Miami's suffering through the most player friendly coach
maybe in football history, and also thinking of alternatives for
to a tongue of ailoa. You don't ask the guy
that's been the most critical of those two people in
the entire industry to come be the consultants for your
(35:19):
GM hiring unless you are considering dumping out of head
coach and quarterback going forward.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
That's interesting, Yeah, it is, And I mean i'm I'm
I'm with that where he comes from, as far as
that goes, just simply because football is one where I
think the head coach is huge as far as how
the team plays. I mean, it's not just rallying the troops.
It's not just X's and oser scheme. It's it's the
(35:46):
entire thing around. I mean, you're gonna lose some games.
Rarely is even gonna go undefeated. You're gonna lose some games.
So how do you bounce back? You're gonna have some interceptions,
So how does your guy bounce back? Like the way
we hear, you know, kind of tying it into what
we just talked about Sam dunk, the way you hear
Mike McDonald back his quarterback. Now, you always hear coaches
take their teams their players side for the most part,
(36:08):
right unless they're just really bad and they say it's
time to throw them under the bus to light a
fire a little bit. For the most part, you're like, ah,
we believe in Sam. But they're just continue to say
let it rip, dude, and you know they're saying that
tenfold in their meetings. Hey, you got that right there.
I don't care if that's a you know, back shoulder
throw instead of trying to go over the top. We
(36:28):
got to make the adjustment on that. But whatever it is,
we still want you making that throw because it's going
to work out and turn into points A lot of times.
I am one hundred percent on board with if you
have if you feel like your ship is rudderless, then
make some drastic changes, and the drastic change might be
a quarterback or might be a head coach. That you
just feel is because it wasn't that long ago we
were talking about Miami, how fast they were in all
(36:50):
these moves that they had made, like this thing's going
to be potent, and it looked like it for a
year and then it completely fell off. And I think
that the tougher coaches keep things, they write the ship
quicker than the players coaches.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Well, I'll give Mike me Dan a credit for this,
because I thought it was lost.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
They looked like they weren't gonna win but two or
three games.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
And he did get them to win what seven games?
Eight games this year? So I'll give him credit because
he he saved that thing from being a complete and
total disaster. But I'm just not sure he saved his job.
And this Troy Aikman, you know, consultation story probably suggests
(37:30):
that he's he's in deep trouble. I don't know why
you would be getting bringing in his biggest critic if
Mike McDaniel was safe.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Also, just quickly, I really love.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
When former players remain fans of their team I really
when shearm was celebrating at the end of that big
Seahawks win over the Rams, I loved it.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Michael Irvin take a little too far, a little too far.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
Maybe he looks, yeah, kind of looks like, do you
like it?
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Don't like it? I don't like it?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
You don't like that?
Speaker 7 (38:02):
No, I think that, I mean, how can you not
be a fan? But boy, he looks he looks like
he's still trying to like rush a fraternity, like taking
his belt off and whooping the water cooler, like.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I'll give you this, Mike, you got good abs, you.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Really, Yeah, you're a great shape, kept of the workouts. Yeah,
but I think he may take it a little too far,
a little bit, all right. Coming up next Your Friday
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
We got Greg Bell joining us here in a matter
of moments.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
More on Sam Darnold coming.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Your way as the big game goes down tomorrow night
in Santa Clara between the Seahawks and the forty nine
Ers for the division title, for the number one seed
or home field throughout the NFC playoffs.
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Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yes.
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Top story Seahawks taking on.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
The forty nine Ers tomorrow night, five o'clock is the kickoff.
Everything it feels like in the world is at stake
in this game. You know, Ander's getting ready to have
a baby. If the Seahawks win, he gets to name
him Sam Oh.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
If the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Win, though, he has to name Sala Sala Yeah, dame baby,
Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, there is a soccer player named
Salo there.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
The other game on Saturday will be Carolina taking on
Tampa Bay kickoff, there is one thirty. It's not entirely
winner wins the division because Atlanta has mucked things up
a little bit for Tampa Bay. If Carolina wins tomorrow,
they won the division, they walk off as division champions.
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If Tampa Bay wins, then Tampa Bay still needs help.
Atlanta would have to lose to the Saints on Sunday
in order for Tampa to then win the division. So
it's not nearly as cut and dry as I think
they hoped it would be when they made the schedule
for week number eighteen. But you do have playoffs on
(02:15):
the line. Certainly Tampa Bay has to win in order
to get there, and so from that standpoint, it is
a playoff atmosphere that'll take place in Tampa, Florida. Charles Cross,
by the way, is out for the Seahawks. Josh Jones
is even questionable. We'll talk to Greg more about that
coming up here at seven o five. Also, Baltimore at
(02:37):
Pittsburgh Sunday night.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
That is cut and dry.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
The winner gets into the playoffs as Division champs. Loser
is out and Lamar Jackson says, I cannot miss it.
He is going to play one hundred percent guaranteed. According
to the Ravens Quarterback College Football. Yesterday, the quarterfinals of
the College football Playoff couple blowouts. He had Oregon twenty
three nothing over text Tech thirty eight to three. Indiana
(03:02):
crushed Alabama. They saved the best game for last, ole
Miss and Georgia an instant classic, and ole Miss wins
it thirty nine to thirty four. And so your final
four is now Miami versus ole Miss next Thursday, four
thirty and Oregon versus Indiana next Friday at four thirty.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The winners go on to the National Championship Game.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And oh, by the way, if that's not enough, those
teams preparing for their two biggest games of the year.
Potentially the portal opens today, that's right, So they got
to deal with that and it'll stay open until the
sixteenth of January. Cracking one over the Predators last night,
four to one. They won five out of their last
six games. They'll play again tonight at Vancouver against the Canucks.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
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To you, Good morning, Happy New Year.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah. Did you have a good time? Did you stay
up till midnight?
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I stayed up till three am? Actually? Who? We were
at the Sea Monster in Wallingford seeing a Prince A
tribute with the cover band there. They have a great
house band. Anyone who's been there, and that's what I'm
talking about. It's a funk place and yeah, we had
a great time.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
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Speaker 1 (04:54):
I know that Greg Bell has never done morning radio.
He's still able to stay up till three o'clock.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Actually have done morning ready. In fact, I feel like
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There's a difference between getting up and having a phone
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There, Greg, previous a place to think, cut up a
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All right, Greg, let's get it going.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Seahawks forty nine ers tomorrow night in Santa Clara. Give
us the latest on the left tackle situation. I mean,
we can read that Charles Cross is out, but what
does this mean for Josh Jones? What does this mean
for the offensive line?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Well, Josh Jones is trending toward playing now. He practiced
yesterday for the first time this week. Listen is questionable,
but he looked the very fact he was the field
yesterday the last full practice. I'm gonna like practice for
to get on the plane this afternoon. To Santa Clara,
but I think he's gonna play. We'll talk to Mike
McDonald this afternoon. They did bring up Amary Kite, the
(06:13):
undrafted rookie from Central Florida who has impressed them since
the spring. It signed him to the active roster from
the practice squad as an insurance contingency plan. But I'm
gonna think right now without how you talk to McDonald.
Reading the tea leaves at what I saw yesterday. I
think it's gonna be Josh Jones starting again, and they
(06:34):
like what they've seen them. As Klint Kubik said yesterday,
as we've been talking about, this is why they signed
him the two games that Jones has played for Cross
being injured. They like what they've seen from Josh Jones,
and it looks like perhaps crisis averted that Jones will
be able to start in place Across on Saturday night.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
All right, Well that's I mean, it's not great news.
Everybody wants their first round dude a Cross out there,
But you're right, I mean, as long as both of
them out, Josh Jones just filled an ad, I'll stay
with the injury area. I mean, Rashid Shaheed missed some
time with that concussion.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Is he good to go? Well, yeah, he hasn't missed
any game time. Apparently he's not even on the injury list,
which means he was full go practice the last two
days and during the concussion protocol. If you're full going
practice both days and not even on the injury list
for the game, that means you must have passed all
(07:28):
five stages of the NFL's concussion protocol. This isn't just
a rushback job. We need him for this game. First
of all, Remember both teams are in the playoffs, so
there will actually be as good as big as this
game is tomorrow night. They are actually more important games
gonna come weeks to follow for each team. But the
Shaheed situation, the fact he's not even on the injury
(07:48):
report listenings he's passed all five stages of the NFL
concussion protocol, and a team doctor isn't the only one
that can do that. By rule, you have to have
an independent third party neurologist clear him as well. So
he's been cleared by at least two doctors, one of
them doesn't get paid by the Seahawks. That he can play.
That's a surprise. Most concussions in the NFL. I thought
(08:10):
that the average over this new concussion protocol time that
they've had for twelve years or so, it's a nine
day return to play, But every head injury is different.
He was smiling and very joking and looking like himself
yesterday after practice, and that's just potentially a big deal.
If he is healthy enough as he looks like he
is to play, He's a game breaker, a difference maker
(08:31):
and field position, somebody that can take the Niners coverage
off of Smith and Jigba and somebody they didn't have
the first time they played way back in September.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Kobe Bryant, I'm assuming will not play. And then let's
also so we can wrap up the injury portion of
our conversation today, the forty nine ers injuries and how
they may or may not impact this game.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, I think from what I've gathered from San Francisco,
and I'm going to talk to some more people down there,
my buddy's down there today, it looks like Shanahan might
be a little bit gamesmanship with some of the questionables.
He's got Trent Williams with the hamstring questionable, He's got
up and style with concussion questionable, which suggests he hasn't
cleared through the protocol yet. Ricky Pisov, who's barely played
(09:18):
this season, questionable, So we'll see to be determined. They're
just not rolling them out yet. I think they're trying
to keep Mike McDonald guessing a little bit. Last anyone
saw Trent Williams Sunday night. He could barely walk on
that hamstring injury he got early in the game against
the Bears. We'll see on that, and I'm sure it'll
(09:38):
be wait till game time before they actually declare them
in are out. But suffice to say whether the side
of all those guys, the Niners are still a shove
of themselves on defense. No Fred Warner boss missed most
of the year. Those are two all pros right there,
and the Niners have the fewest sacks in the NFL.
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That could be a bit big difference between Week one
and Week eighteen for the Seahawks offense. No pass rush.
The Maners have not gotten to any quarterback this year,
and that may give Donald time with Wayguard Smith and
Jigba for deep breaking routes that he likes to do.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Yeah, I mean the Fred Werner and Bosa were the
leading tacklers in that Week one, and Bosa I think
was the one that sacked Sam Donald caused that fumble that.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Just straight into the quarterback. Yes it was.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
Yeah, So those guys being missing is going to help
as far as that part of the battle goes. When
it goes Shanahan versus McDonald. I mean, this is no
short sample size. You're in the final week of the
regular season. Their offense has been flying high against some
subpar stuff and the Seahawks defense has been performing.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Really well as well.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
So who's got the advantage coming into this final one?
Their offense are our defense.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I think the Seahawks defense for one reason, Bucky nick
Emon worry and McDonald has something no other coach has
that can play all over the field and someone they
could actually put in man coverage, shadowing Christian McCaffrey. Some
of what makes McCaffrey so great, his athleticism so great,
(11:11):
is that teams don't think they can afford to cover
with their best cover guy, the most athletic cover guy. Well,
in Nicky Manworrey, they have like a co best cover
guy along with Devin Witherspoon, and because he's a running back,
and because he often comes out of the centers of formations,
they can devote Emon Worree to almost being a spy
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on McCaffrey to take away his yards after the catch,
short tackles, guy goes down. There are very few in
the league that can do that, and there are very
few coaches that would say, I want to put my
best cover gun on a running back and leave Jan
Jennings and George Kittle and everybody else roaming free in
the middle of the defense. But Seattle can do that,
and that makes them unique in the league. I can
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tell you. I can assure you that Nicky Manworrey was
a huge part of the Week one game plan defense
and he went out after four plays. And the fact
that he's healthy tomorrow night is the biggest difference in
this first matchup to the second one. It to me
spells advantage Seattle just in that regard against Christian mcavan. Now,
McCaffrey is an MVP all Pro. I mean, he's elite,
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and so he's going to get some of his But
I'm just saying the Seahawks gematically and in personnel have
something nobody else in the league. As for McCaffrey.
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Speaker 3 (12:42):
How are the.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Seahawks handling a topic that a lot of people are discussing,
How Sam handling it this week? How are his coaches
handling the idea of making sure Sam Donald doesn't turn
the ball over more than what is responsible?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Well, Chuck, yesterday, it was a noticeably looser, very joking
Sam Donald. I mean, he went out of his way
to joke with all this. He's not usually like that
quite as much. Here's joking about his hair being unruly.
He's joking about the lookalike the CBS found in the
stands and Charlotte staying Donald and how he wants to
meet him and maybe set an auograph for him. His
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San Clemente High school football team's coming up on a
plane to the Bay Area. I don't know if it's
the coach, the whole players, or what, but I was
told and he said yeah. I asked, Hm, about that yesterday. Yeah,
I heard that too. I'm gonna have to text my
coach and find out who was all coming. So he's
in really good spirits and really lose two days before
the game, but he says, I have to be better,
(13:44):
and I can be better. The turnovers are unacceptable. Donald
said it doesn't matter if the ball's tipped, and maybe
this while all turnovers aren't the same, ultimately to my responsibility.
Clint Kobe acts very upfront about the turnovers. He says,
what we've been talking about and I've contended for months.
He says, we cannot be a championship team turn them
ball over like this, and so that's Does that change? Well, okay,
(14:08):
so what's the upside of all that? Does that change
how Kubac calls games? Is going to be more conservative
and take fewer risks down the field? No, I don't
think it will. As I mentioned off the top, the
lack of a forty nine ers pass rush tells me
they're going to be as wide open and pushing them
all down the field as they've been in a while.
I mean, this might be early season aerial circus time
(14:30):
for the Seahawks, especially Jackson Smith and jigbb deep down
the field. I think that's going to be their game plan.
I think it's going to be anything but conservative to
try to avoid turnovers. As Mike McDonald keeps saying, we
don't want them to quit pushing the ball down the field,
and there's a little bit of cost of doing business
to these turnovers. If they push the ball down the
field as deeply as they have been all season. I
(14:51):
think you're going to see more of that tomorrow night.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
There's, you know, the conversation about running back and this
team obviously wants to run the ball up there towards
top of the league. As far as how how often
they do run the ball. I mean, Ken Walker just
a couple weeks ago went off against the Rams and
then last week Zach Charboney is do you think running
back wise, they're going to try to establish a run
like they always do And is there possibly a shorter
(15:16):
leash if you start seeing charbonnay excel or if he
ends up being the hot hand, well.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
They're definitely gonna run. Then mean quit Kubak, that's why
he's here. We saw in the Rose Bowl yesterday a
team that can't run and what they go and Ryan Grubb,
And that's why Ryan Grub's nott the play caller anymore
they go to run. They still run it more than
anybody in the league percentage of play call times second
most in the league in actual run play calls. Yet
they're still diving the twenties on yards per carry under
(15:46):
four yards per Kerry. So they can run and even
when they're not running it effectively, and I think that's
going to happen again tomorrow night. To answer your second question, yeah,
I think they will be. It's a good situation for
the schematically and game plan wise to be in that
they've had two one hundred yard backs in the last
four weeks or close to it in Walker's case, and
(16:10):
they are going to ride both. And then I think
even though McDonald says we don't do the hot hand thing,
he's his explanation is there are certain plays that we
like charbone with looks like outside zone. Based on last
week's game, they won a lot of heavy outside zone
and there are certain plays we like Kenneth Walker in
and so if the game plan calls for more outside zone,
(16:30):
last week's game says it's going to be more charbonate Tomrnight.
This defense, especially without Fred Warner in it, they can
move inside or outside zone because you would think without
Bosa and Warner that this is a different game plan
than it was in Game one. So suffice to say,
they will be running, especially on early downs, and a
(16:52):
big key to the game, as it is in most games,
including for the Seahawks defense to Mornight, is how much
can they limit gains on first and second down to
make third downs long? Thirds downs long have been advantaged
Seahawks on defense, and third downs long on offense has
been often when Sam Donald's turned the ball over, all.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Right, well there you go, it's on. Here we go
Saturday night for all the marbles.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
What's your expectation at this point?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I really think that the Bosa and Warner not being
there and Nick even worry on McCaffrey are the decisive
advantages in Seattle's favor, and if Donald doesn't turn it
over us I've been saying for months now, if Donald
doesn't give Purdy in the forty nine ers a short field,
I'm not sure how often the forty nine ers can
(17:41):
drive down the field and score touchdowns on Seattle's defense.
I think the Seahawks win because of Nick Even Worry.
We'll see how many yards and touches and scores Christian
McCaffrey ends up with. But it would surprise me if
it's more than he's averaging and used to getting. I
think you're gonna see the full Nick even Warre experience
(18:01):
from Mike McDonald tomorrow night, and it's going to be
decisive on defense.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
All right.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Well, safe travels, and you have a lot of responsibility.
I don't want you hanging out till three o'clock with
your friends again listening to rock and roll music.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah. I'm actually gonna be a plane from nine until
midnight tonight, so that'll curtail my social active.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
It's every time to hit to town when you get there.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Fortunately I'm finding the San Jose which rolls up at
about married pms, so I won't have no chance to
get in tonight.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
All right, Greg, thank you very much, sir. We appreciate it.
Happy New Year, and we'll talk to you Monday.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Happy New Year, Happy weekend.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Thank you, Greg Bell our Seahawks inside of joining us.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
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All right, Coming up next, we will discuss Sam Donald,
the things that Greg said, the things that all of
you are saying about our quarterback.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Here in Seattle.
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Speaker 9 (19:54):
It's your big moment, Sam Donald, Come on, Cinderella, we
gotta get you ready for the ball. It's Chuck Fowlbuggy,
Jacobson and Anders Hearst with you here as we broadcast
on a Football Friday first a live show of the
calendar year twenty twenty six, and we will have you
milling x's and o's coming up at nine o'clock, Mike
(20:15):
holmgan at nine thirty.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
We'll have your Friday Oho at eight o'clock.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
It feels very Monday around here. That forgive us a
little bit. If we start talking like it's Monday.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It does feel very Monday ish. You slip into it.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
But no, we had a couple of days off and
here we are, we land smack dab in the middle
of a football Friday.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
For goodness sake.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Big fan of Friday, So I'm glad that we keep
reminding ourselves that it is Friday. And there is a
lot of stuff going on. So big, big game tomorrow,
certainly certainly the biggest, and we need our quarterback to
play his best.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
And I realize it's been a little while, it's been
a little bit since Sam Darnold's been at the top
of his game. Certainly hasn't played in his last seven
games as well as he played in his first nine game.
The statistics bear that out, But still has played well
enough this season, Bucky that he's a pro Bowl In
vit he led the team to its most points scored
(21:10):
in a season in franchise history.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
We've got a shot at the.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Number one seed here tomorrow with a victory home field advantage.
I don't know if anybody saw that coming. Sam Darnold
has been a runaway success story as quarterback for the
Seattle Seahawks, and yet so much conversation the last couple
of weeks about that turnover rate that puts him at
(21:35):
the top or bottom depends on how you look at it.
In the National Football League, he's turning the ball over
too much. But I heard Hugh Millan will be with
us at nine o'clock enough over the course of the year,
and I've heard Mike McDonald enough over the course of
the year that my opinion certainly mirrors those actually not mirrors,
(21:58):
but goes with that.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I'm I'm on that bus.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
To me, I don't want Sam Donald to play conservatively tomorrow.
I don't want to risk losing that way. I'm in
the let it rip camp. And yes, there are things.
I mean, you've brought up quite a bit, like I
don't want you to be careless in the red zone.
We got to come away with points there, and there's
(22:23):
a there is a fine line between being aggressive and reckless,
and I need you to sort of be on the
aggressive side of that line and not on the reckless
side of that line. But I want Sam Donald to
play the way Sam Donald's played all season long, and results,
whatever results, be damned, whatever comes of it, because I
(22:44):
think that we benefit a lot more from Sam Donald
playing aggressive.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Then we get hurt by it.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
And so I'm with Hugh, I'm with coach McDonald, and
I'm expecting Sam Donald to go out there tomorrow night
and let it rip.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
And I'm all about it.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Yeah, I don't see it changing. And yet that doesn't
mean that the turnover part can't change. I mean, if
you just think you're right the last seven games and
seven games ago was the four interception game against the
Rams that obviously was the outlier, the biggest stinker of
them all. I mean, it skews the stats in a
bad direction. Hugh ended up having a conversation with MJ
(23:26):
that I ended up going back and listening to because
I heard it was really good stuff, and he was
talking about how, yeah, the interceptions don't.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Consider a football expert putting a talk show host in
his place really good stuff.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
I think it's great, especially that one, and so just
how he was saying it doesn't the interceptions don't necessarily
dictate points that you cost your team or or wins
and losses. As a matter of fact, the exact opposite
he was talking about over the last six years, that
those that put the ball at risk a little bit
(24:01):
they also have more success. And Sam Darld he breaks,
I mean, Hugh does it better than anybody breaking down
what all the numbers are and then what those correlate to.
I mean, it's just that's the fact, okay. And you
can if people want to get stuck on those are
twenty interceptions, you just that's just a fact. Okay, Well
it is, but they're not all created the same, and
(24:21):
just at times if you can't recognize that, at times
a turnover is going to happen. But if you handcuff
a guy and say don't you ever turn the ball over, that,
you're going to limit your ceiling what.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
You can do.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
And if you can't recognize that, then you can't recognize it.
And and so to me, I mean, with the exception
of that four interception game, which you can't you can't
do that, you can't go out there and turn the
ball over.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
You almost won that game, yep.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And then they lost a turnover battle to him again
by what three and beat them.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah the next time they face Yeah, and that one.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
I mean a lot of things had to bounce their
way in order to pull that one out, but they
did it. They came back and won. The bottom line
is you got a w without that four interception game.
If it was just a three interception game, you probably
end up right now on eleven game win streak and
you're not. It's not this conversation about is there really
a great team in the NFL. They would be hands,
head and shoulders above everybody else. Had they he not
(25:17):
thrown four interceptions that game, just thrown't two, they would
be on an eleven game win streak. They'd be the
number one seed locked up, they'd be resting players this week.
They would be everybody be talking about that is a
super Bowl favorite. I don't know for sure if anybody's
going to beat them. That's what everybody'd be talking about.
Just with a couple passes that hit the turf versus
landing in the rams receivers. And it's in large part
(25:37):
because of him. So the idea of they probably should
move on, they should be the should probably you know,
just cut bait with this guy. You know, maybe draft
somebody or look, no, no, no, the dude is going
out and he's doing what it takes to win. I'll
say this, and I don't know how you can make
it any more simple. The difference between being a good
(25:58):
or great quarterback or just player in any sport is
your ability to overcome when you fail. I mean, every
single person that's played any sport has had a game.
Well maybe not every person, but any person that you're
watching on TV playing a sport has had a moment
when they are unstoppable. They're in that zone and they
go five or five, or they you know, go fifteen
(26:20):
for sixteen and five touchdowns in a high school game.
It's what they do when they have a bad game
or they make a bad throw that costs their team.
How do you get that short memory? Have a memory
of a goldfish, Get rid of that and be ready
to go back and do what your team needs you
to do. Not scared, not apprehensive, not overly cautious. If
you can do that, that's what it will dictate whether
(26:42):
or not you can keep moving forward in the game.
And Sam Darnold has evolved from the quarterback he came
into the league as to what he is now and
he has figured out that, yeah, there's going to be mistakes,
and I can't make the bad ones. I have to
limit those, you know, where you're costing my team points
or given the other team a really shit But if
you can just go out there and still let it
rip in spite of the fact that everyone swat it's
(27:05):
gonna hurt, I think that you're gonna be good. And
he has been doing that majority of the season.
Speaker 10 (27:10):
We talk so much about process versus result in baseball,
especially with batting. Right, if you go up with the
right process, you're not gonna get the right result every
single time. It's the same theory applies with football. Right,
if you're doing the right things, you're not always gonna
you know, avoid interceptions. You're not gonna throw a touchdown
every single pass. You're not gonna score points every single drive.
(27:30):
But I totally agree with when the first half of
the season, up until about the first Rams game, he
was letting it loose. And I think something in that
game the four interceptions is like, Okay, we can't do that.
And a lot of people think when you have such
an elite defense that you just can't lose the game offensively.
So you play incredibly conservative. I actually kind of lean
the other way. I'm like, because you have such good defense,
(27:51):
you can overcome the mistakes you make, and it leaves
you more room for error on that front. Now, obviously
there's a there's a line where you don't want to cross,
but I think because of how good your defense is,
you should be able to kind of have that margin
for air that you normally would not have.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
So let it loose. Sam, I totally agree with both
of you guys.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, maam, Yeah, I think teams that should go for
it on fourth down more frequently when you have a defense. Yes, yeah,
that's that's my theory as well. Speaking of baseball, you
brought up the point in that conversation from last week
about you know, if you've got a guy who's hitting
fifty home runs a season and knocking in one hundred
(28:34):
and thirty runs, do you really worry that he's striking
out a little too much?
Speaker 4 (28:40):
You know?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Are you gonna tell him to change his batting approach
because we need more balls and play, we need more singles,
or are you gonna be pretty happy that you're a
first place team with a guy that's hitting fifty home
runs really for you, for you this this season, and
that's sort of what we're talking about with Sam and
(29:02):
you know, Hugh does the mathematical breakdown, but at the
bottom line of it is that everybody seems to think
that turnovers equals this and production equals that.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Well, the numbers suggest that more.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Aggressive quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Have more success in the National Football League, and so
if you want to just focus on not turning the
ball over, then you're not going to get the offensive
production that you've been getting all season long from a
guy who's right now got his team with the second
most points in the National Football League. And so I'm
(29:44):
gonna live with it. I'm gonna live with it. Mike
McDonald's gonna live with it. Hugh Millan's gonna live with it.
If he throws a couple. I mean, you can't throw four.
You're gonna lose the game if you have a minus
four turnover margin tomorrow. I can live with minus one
if it means Sam Darnold's ripping it and getting JSN involved,
getting other receivers involved, and so to me, I think
(30:05):
it's just I think the conversation is over and I
want Sam Donald to go out there and employ as
aggressively as he has all season long. We're going to
talk more about that with Hugh Millen coming up at
nine o'clock today. Coming up next, there's an awful lot
of other stuff going on in the National Football League
here on the final week of the regular season. We
alto at least touch upon it. Sports Radio ninety three
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Speaker 8 (30:32):
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Speaker 1 (30:58):
Alright, eight o'clock hours coming up, but we've got your
Friday ocho for you.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
That's right, it is a football Friday.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
I know during the holidays we lose track of the days,
and when I say.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
We, I mean me.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
But today is a football Friday, and so we will
have our ohow coming up at the top of the hour,
plus g Millin and nine Mike Homer to nine thirty.
There's a lot more going on, it turns out, in
the National Football League this weekend than just the Seahawks
and forty nine ers. Even though that's certainly what we
are focused on a lot of different things taking place
that are going to be settled on Sunday, Saturday and Sunday,
(31:32):
and not just playoff appearances and positioning.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Either. The number one.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Pick probably gonna go to the Las Vegas Raiders. Leave
it to them to blow it in Week eighteen against
the Kansas City Chiefs, But sounds to me like they've
decided to take care of everything. Anybody that tries, we
will pull you out of the game on Sunday. Seems
to be the Raiders' mentality heading into this final game.
(32:00):
They're gonna try, They're gonna get the number. There's such
a huge discrepancy between the value of the number one
overall pick and the number two pick in this draft.
It feels like that the Raiders, I don't think are
going to allow I think I think Spytack will tackle
his own running back if he tries to score late
in the game against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
Well, I mean we saw that just even last week,
right Max Crosby. They're like, all right, dude, you're not
going to play, And then he comes out and posts
a video of him shooting jumpers in his home basketball gym.
I mean, just that is not good, not a good look.
And yet, yeah, I mean, if you're not going to
be doing if you're not going anywhere, I suppose, what's
the point if you're the front office. Now, the players
(32:43):
that are going to be on the field, they're still
fighting for their job. They're still saying, you're going to
clean house around here. And I want to be somebody
that you know, keeps my job, so to speak. Unless
you're a Max Crosby, you're probably like, I know, I
still have a job in the NFL, So i'd be
great if you'd let me go. I'll go and throw
you under the bus about your decision to basically tank
this thing. We'll see, I wouldn't be surprised if they
screw it up too well.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Speaking of jobs, Black Monday is coming, so there'll be
a lot of head coaching firings coming up on Monday morning.
That'll be a huge topic of conversation as well, one
that we won't be able to delve too deeply into
because we'll be recapping Seahawks forty nine ers on Monday morning,
but that certainly is going to be a big story.
And this Troy Aikman thing I didn't think anything of,
(33:28):
and I actually heard a pretty good breakdown of this
this morning.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
As a matter of fact, the show teased that they were.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Going to talk about Troy Aikman becoming a consultant for
the Miami Dolphins, and I'm like, really, on football Friday,
with coming off of those college football playoff games and
getting ready for this weekend, you just think, because Dan
Marino called up his buddy Troy Aikman, that this is
something worth talking. I mean, you're gonna have to really
sell this one to me, and they did. They pulled
(33:56):
it off. Chris Canty makes the point that you know,
Troy Aikman has been one of the most critical analysts of.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
TUA for the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And also Troy Aikman as one of those coaches that
does not like soft coaches. He blamed Barry Switzer for
the Cowboys not winning five to six Super Bowls because
he wasn't much of a disciplinarian and things just got
out of control with the Dallas Cowboys, even though they
were sitting there on a dynasty. They still won three
(34:31):
and they won one with Switzer, but he felt they
could have won more. So all of a sudden, like, Okay,
now I get your point. They're bringing in Troy Aikman,
Dan Marino's buddy is bringing in his buddy, Troy Aikman
to be a consultant on this thing because Troy knows
the league better than Dan, who probably never leaves South
Beach anymore. And Dan's tapping into what what Troy, what
(34:57):
disciplinarian out there that he would want as a head
coach because Miami's suffering through the most player friendly coach
maybe in football history, and also thinking of alternatives for
to a tongue of ailoa. You don't ask the guy
that's been the most critical of those two people in
the entire industry to come be the consultants for your
(35:19):
GM hiring unless you are considering dumping out of head
coach and quarterback going forward.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
That's interesting, Yeah, it is, And I mean i'm I'm
I'm with that where he comes from, as far as
that goes, just simply because football is one where I
think the head coach is huge as far as how
the team plays. I mean, it's not just rallying the troops.
It's not just X's and oser scheme. It's it's the
(35:46):
entire thing around. I mean, you're gonna lose some games.
Rarely is even gonna go undefeated. You're gonna lose some games.
So how do you bounce back? You're gonna have some interceptions,
So how does your guy bounce back? Like the way
we hear, you know, kind of tying it into what
we just talked about Sam dunk, the way you hear
Mike McDonald back his quarterback. Now, you always hear coaches
take their teams their players side for the most part,
(36:08):
right unless they're just really bad and they say it's
time to throw them under the bus to light a
fire a little bit. For the most part, you're like, ah,
we believe in Sam. But they're just continue to say
let it rip, dude, and you know they're saying that
tenfold in their meetings. Hey, you got that right there.
I don't care if that's a you know, back shoulder
throw instead of trying to go over the top. We
(36:28):
got to make the adjustment on that. But whatever it is,
we still want you making that throw because it's going
to work out and turn into points A lot of times.
I am one hundred percent on board with if you
have if you feel like your ship is rudderless, then
make some drastic changes, and the drastic change might be
a quarterback or might be a head coach. That you
just feel is because it wasn't that long ago we
were talking about Miami, how fast they were in all
(36:50):
these moves that they had made, like this thing's going
to be potent, and it looked like it for a
year and then it completely fell off. And I think
that the tougher coaches keep things, they write the ship
quicker than the players coaches.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Well, I'll give Mike me Dan a credit for this,
because I thought it was lost.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
They looked like they weren't gonna win but two or
three games.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
And he did get them to win what seven games?
Eight games this year? So I'll give him credit because
he he saved that thing from being a complete and
total disaster. But I'm just not sure he saved his job.
And this Troy Aikman, you know, consultation story probably suggests
(37:30):
that he's he's in deep trouble. I don't know why
you would be getting bringing in his biggest critic if
Mike McDaniel was safe.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Also, just quickly, I really love.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
When former players remain fans of their team I really
when shearm was celebrating at the end of that big
Seahawks win over the Rams, I loved it.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Michael Irvin take a little too far, a little too far.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
Maybe he looks, yeah, kind of looks like, do you
like it?
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Don't like it? I don't like it?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
You don't like that?
Speaker 7 (38:02):
No, I think that, I mean, how can you not
be a fan? But boy, he looks he looks like
he's still trying to like rush a fraternity, like taking
his belt off and whooping the water cooler, like.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I'll give you this, Mike, you got good abs, you.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Really, Yeah, you're a great shape, kept of the workouts. Yeah,
but I think he may take it a little too far,
a little bit, all right. Coming up next Your Friday
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