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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Happy Tuesday. It is Chuck Powell and Ashley Ryan with you.
We roll into our third hour of our four-hour radio
program here this morning. We do have Aaron Donald and
the Rams to get to a little bit later on
this hour. Rick Neuheisel joins us at 9 o'clock. We
do have the ABCs and the Ms before the close
of the show, so still a lot of ground to cover.
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Kind of feels like we should go over some of
the same ground again here to start the 8 o'clock hour.
Because it does feel, it surely does feel done now,
does it not, Ashley? No. It doesn't? No. You still
are not there?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I am not there.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay. I mean. Good, I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I feel like I probably should relieve myself of the
frustrations and emotions.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm going to go through by still holding on to hope.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
But I just can't because I have seen glimpses of
this team doing some good things. And, I mean, we
just saw it two weeks ago or a week ago.
I mean, since I came back from Hawaii, basically, they
have sucked. So if you need me to fly somewhere else, I'll.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Go somewhere else. You should have never even mentioned that.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well, it's not just me. People are reminding me on
the text and the YouTube. Yes.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
And trust me, if I could afford to go on
vacation again and take the days off, I would do
it to help this team.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I would do pretty much anything.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Do you hear that, John Stanton? Yeah, why don't you
contribute some money to getting Ashley the F out of here?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, if you want this team to win, apparently that's
what it takes. And I will be a willing participant.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
What is the... Because I don't use the text line
in front of me. I know I got a lot
of response last night on social media. Maybe record setting
for me personally. A PR. I said a PR last night.
And it was mostly on board with me. Um, obviously
there was a lot of, I told you this roster
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wasn't any good. And I told you, Jerry, and I
disagree with that. I think the roster was fine and
should have won this series, this, uh, league, this division, um,
by 10 games this year, but there's no getting around
the fact that this team has earned its record. They've
played terrible baseball this year. They are a 10 games
under 500 baseball team, and certainly we're going to spend
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a lot of time in the offseason trying to get
to the bottom of that. It's a bit mysterious for me.
There's no question about it. I could go through all
the things that I started the show with, and I
probably will get to all of them again, that land
as the sources of my runaway frustration at this point
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but what is the gist what what are people because
ashley said the text line's just blown up yeah here
today what is the gist of their conversation uh i
mean it's.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Just a really a lot of frustration a lot of
uh irritation with julio yesterday uh someone saying i don't
think julio has enough common sense to be a great
baseball player i disagree with that but he made a
mistake last night absolutely Uh, Dan sucks. The guys are
lost without passionate leadership. We need Gino Suarez. We needed
Gino Suarez all year. Dan sucks. The last two playoff seasons,
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you could say Gino got you there both years.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
They let him go. We floundered. Dan sucks. That's from Aaron.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Wanting to make sure that we knew that he thinks
Dan sucks.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And look, we did an entire segment, uh, just a
half hour ago about his press conference that he had
last night, stopping it at moments that aggravated me, us, um,
I don't think he has what it takes to be
a leader of men. And Luke Arkins has done this
a lot. Our friend, Luke Arkins, like, um, and he's
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also criticized him harshly for this. And I don't, I
don't necessarily fall in line with that theory that soft.
He's going with right now. And that is that he
needs to yank people out of games and, and he
needs to call them out necessarily in the media.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
That's no.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Or he has to be behind the scenes. He better
be chewing him a new one. I don't know if
today's athlete responds to that, but I do think what
they respond to is directness and firmness and expectations. And
this is a word the softies use a lot, accountability.
And they reinforce those things. I mean, to watch Mike
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McDonald on hard knocks and then to compare him to
what we hear from Dan Wilson. Now, we're just hearing
that publicly. Hard Knocks is not following Dan Wilson around.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It would be great if they were, though, because I'd
like to know.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I would love to know. We're not getting the nitty-gritty
of it, but my guess is that what you see
is what you get. And if that's what the players
are getting, too, is this soft mamby-pamby, oh, we didn't
get him this time, oh, it was a tough one
this time, there's no way that you're going to lead
a group of grown-ass men to chew through walls for
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you when it matters. And last night was another example
of it. I mean, there were some excellent performances last night.
Randy Rosarino was spectacular. Cal, I think, has turned the
corner here as of late. And we're still not winning,
even with Cal having turned the corner here as of late.
But he's playing with some grit. Saw Logan pitch with
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grit two days ago. I mean, There are a lot
of examples of that. Dominguez, Spire, and Munoz all pitched
well last night. But there's also these examples of, I
call it hero ball. Like, JP should stop swinging for
the fences, and yet he's been doing it for three years.
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And if the explanation for it is, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm not swinging for the fences. I'm just trying to
hit the ball really hard and it's throwing me off balance.
That's a problem. If you're off balance and you're swinging
yourself into a circle, you have pipe cleaner arms. You
are not a power hitter. The fact that he hit
10 home runs is the problem because he thinks he's
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a power hitter and him coming outside of his comfort
zone in order to be the hero in every stinking moment. Now,
he didn't do it last night.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
He was good last night.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
He contributed by just staying within himself.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
And the bunt. But I think Dom Canzone, even though
he played a good game last night, played hero ball
last night, bases were loaded. Nobody out. And you got
those bases loaded by unconventional means. Cole got brushed with
a pitch on the elbow. And then you got a
walk from Weston Wilson, which was kind of miraculous. And
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then Randy, because he did everything right last night, gets
a base hit. And then you just keep the chain moving.
Keep it going. And Dom comes up with three swings
to try to hit a grand slam 1,000 feet. That's
not what I want to see in that moment. And
where is the coaching? Where is the heavy hand? But
that's the way that we operate. And maybe it is
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because we just have a bunch of nice guys. Kevin
Seitzer is like a syrupy sweet nice guy. Pete Woodworth.
He instills confidence in his players by constantly being a
form of affirmation for them. He's like a handsome Stuart Smalley,
that Pete Woodworth. It's just always like, you got this.
And it works. It works for him. But if you
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have an entire staff that's operating that way, that's just
about back rubs and attaboys, Can you get where you
want to go with a group of professional men? They
don't have that competitive edge. They lose it from game
to game. There's fire and focus one day. There's fire
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and focus for five days. And then suddenly you show
up at the ballpark in Toronto and there's none for
an entire weekend. And maybe that does have something to
do with leadership. Maybe that's what it's all about. And
forget the X's and O's mistakes that I thought Dan
made last night, which I'm happy to outline for you
here in a little bit. But I don't need him
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jerking people out of games. We need those guys. We
need Julio Rodriguez. He's one of our better players. But
I do need more evidence that you are holding people
responsible and accountable and that there is some sort of
This is how a professional operates. This is how a
teammate operates. And this no-brainer, keep the guy to a
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single thing that every center fielder from high school baseball
on knows to do in that situation. And our all-star
center fielder who plays 160 games that position every stinking
summer makes that mistake in that moment, and that is
not a tough break, as Dan described it. That is
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a boneheaded decision, probably from somebody that thought he wanted
to be the diving hero and make the highlight, rather
than make the sensible, boring, keep-em-to-first play. We don't have that.
We don't exhibit that as a team and haven't all
season long. And yeah, a lot of that falls on
the players. But where is the coach to say that's
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not how you win? Where is that? I hope it's
happening behind the scenes. But my guess is after 128
games or whatever, Ashley, it's not happening behind the scenes
any more than it's happening in front of our eyes.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I mean, I get the impression that the players are
harder on themselves than their manager is.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
And that they're harder on each other and on themselves
and that their manager.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Isn't adding anything. He's not.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I agree. He's not.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Calling them out, and I don't want him to do
it publicly, but in a locker room, I mean, bring someone,
bring someone into your office and say, Hey man, you.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Got to be better than that. You're not calling them out.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
You're not being rude.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You're being a coach. You're being somebody who's trying to
help them win. Who's trying to help them continue to
grow in the sport that they play.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That's your job.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
How was the message about challenges not gotten through? I mean, seriously.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's a great question because it actually seems like we've
gotten worse again.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
This is just an example. It's a small example. But truly,
if you are going to guys and like, hey, this
isn't about you're at bat. This is about what's best
for the team. These challenges, we get two precious ones.
Don't be selfish with it. How many times has Josh
Naylor had a challenge with an 0-1 count and then
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been wrong about it? Mm-hmm. JP, another stupid challenge. We
burned two, not only were you dead wrong because it
wasn't even close, you weren't even close to being right.
They were used in preposterously stupid, non-beneficial situations. How is
that continuing 140 games into the ABS Challenge System's history?
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Because I do watch a lot of baseball beyond the Mariners,
and other teams don't do it. Why do we continue
to fail at the ABS Challenge System? I mean, there's
clearly never been one coach that sat down and said,
we're not going to do that in that situation.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Never.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
And then we don't even call them when we should
use them. Late in the game with ninth inning and
nobody on base and why not use it?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
It's because then we're scared.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
If that doesn't resonate right there. Like, we still have
Josh Naylor in the middle of a high-scoring, tight game
with our starting pitchers struggling, knowing that our bullpen has
not been getting the job done as of late, and
runs are going to become important, and challenges are going
to become important, and that every game and every pitch
is valuable right now. And he's just sitting up there like,
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I want that to be a ball. Tap my head.
I want that, yeah. But I really want it. It
wasn't even that beneficial to his at-bat. Right. I think
it was 0-1. So what? You get to 1-1.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Or 1-0.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Who cares? And obviously there's no coaching on it or
there's no respect for the person who is coaching it
because it doesn't change.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Well, and that might be the problem right there.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
If they are saying it and these players, yeah, Dan
is a nice guy, but do you have respect for him?
Like the Seahawks players clearly have respect for Mike McDonald.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Right, right.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Mike McDonald is a nice guy, but he's not afraid
to let somebody know when they're screwing up.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I think I might've concussed myself. I was doing that
for dramatic effect so that the radio audience would hear
me smack my own head.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
You don't have a helmet on.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I don't have a helmet on.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Brendan Donovan would have went on the IL if he
did that.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yes, he would have.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Oh, that's a cheap shot.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
You want another text?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I'm sorry. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
This is from the 405.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
This losing, disorganized, underachieving energy that surrounds this team starts
with ownership and upper management, and it all rolls downhill.
The Mariners might stumble into a playoff race once in
a while. But it just goes well beyond game plans
and Dan Wilson. This is a losing organization because there
is not a winner's mentality at the top.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Well, look, and I'll push back on that. I know
we're all railing, but we've had five straight winning seasons.
We might not have a championship. We don't have a
championship mentality. I'll give you that. And I think that
that's tried to have been corrected the last couple of years.
I mean, we've been pretty aggressive at the trading deadline
now three years in a row. We've stopped trading. being
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scared of one-year rentals. We've now done that two years
in a row. Jerry let go of offensive philosophy and
handed it over to a proven hitting instructor in Kevin Seitzer,
but also a really nice guy. And so is Edgar,
a really nice guy. There's not a ball buster in
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the group. And I don't think that necessarily today's athletes
respond to that, but they do respond to it. Firmness, directness,
and maybe they're not getting that. So I don't think
that they've had a loser's mentality. I think that they've
had a winner's mentality, stopped short of having a championship
mentality for sure. Maybe they don't know how to win
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a championship. But this season, I mean, I just can't
chalk it up to ownership and management didn't do its
job in the offseason. I just can't. Not when Vegas
is saying we're going to win 93 games and run
away with the American League West. Every national pundit out
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there says the Mariners should win this easily when the
Astros and the Rangers themselves don't even make positive moves
at the trading deadline even though they're ahead of us
because they don't feel like they have the team to
beat the Mariners. This team organizationally spent money on Josh Naylor.
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We all wanted them to do that. What we saw
from Josh Naylor, man, that's got to be kept. Everybody
was on board with that, by the way. Josh Naylor
has not been a good player this year. And I
think he's been actually problematic at times. Kind of lackadaisical.
Last night, he didn't run out a chopper on a
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ground ball that might have been the difference in the game. So,
I don't know how we blame Jerry and John for that.
Re-signing Josh Naylor when we all wanted that to happen.
I mean, Cal Raleigh's had an atrocious season. Should we
have traded him in the offseason for a better catcher?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
One that wasn't going to have a bad year this year?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Because we can predict that.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
One that wasn't going to pull his oblique and affect
his entire game? Is that what we should have done? Like,
I don't know. I think you had the people, and
you're not getting the most out of the people. You're
not even getting near the most out. You're not even
getting them to play average baseball for their abilities and
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the standards that they've set for themselves. I don't go
back to ownership and management on that. I say that
they're vulnerable management this offseason. Ten games under. 500, you
better believe everybody's head is at risk.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Every single person. But if I'm handing out blame pie,
I'm blaming the people, the coaches, and the manager for
the talent that they've assembled. Talent so good that every
single person at spring training did not shy away from
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the goal as a championship. And then you perform 10
games under. 500. I mean... We had a lineup not
long ago where Taylor Ward, league leader in walks, who's
walked like three times since he's been here, was hitting eighth.
And Brendan Donovan, our big offseason acquisition, was hitting ninth.
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How does a lineup with those two guys hitting eighth
and ninth finish last in baseball and run scored? That,
to me, is a lineup that should do some things.
But we're last in baseball and offense. Yes. I don't
think not being able to see that Cal Raleigh was
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going to hit 160 for most of the season this
year is on ownership and management. I just don't. If anything,
it's on, we'll start with the player, but the guys
whose jobs are to get the most out of the
players that they're given. Anybody got the impression that we've
gotten the most out of the talent that we have
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this year?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Not at all.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Not even close. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I will say one thing, too.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
We're getting some texts, people concerned about the background noise
they heard in Dan's press conference. No, they do not
do those press conferences on the road in the locker room.
That was not Mariners players laughing and celebrating in the background.
It was in the hallway at Fenway Park at the
bottom of the arena. It's most likely fans that are
going by leaving the arena. That is not Mariners players making,
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you know, not caring about a loss.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
No, as a matter of fact, there's a Brian Wu
press conference where At his locker, not a press conference,
but at his locker. And he's being interviewed about the
state of the team. And you hear some screaming going
on in the background.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Oh, I haven't heard that.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, some angered screaming from the, not like at another person,
just expressions of anguish. Oh, okay. Like we heard at
the end of the Blue Jays, remember? Yeah. And they
said it was Julio in the background. It might have
been him again. Might have been JP. I don't know.
But somebody took the loss really hard last night. I
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think they are taking the losses really hard right now.
But it just goes from game to game. Just a
lot of the same mistakes and a lot of the
absent-mindedness and a lot of the lack of focus for
what the job requires in the moment. Dom's been terrific
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this year. I'll point it out again. But that was
just a... atrocious at bat. You want to take one
swing at the fences? I guess. I guess. Three? That's
just not winning baseball when everybody else is getting on base.
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Tack on. Keep it going. Sometimes homers are rally killers. Now,
that wouldn't have been.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
No, that would have been great.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
A four-run homer. I mean, we would have taken that.
But it doesn't necessarily– the moment did not necessarily call
for that. Get the run home. That's winning baseball. Too
much hero ball. Too much lack of focus. Some guys
are 100% all in. And some guys look like they
don't even care what the result is. And sometimes it's
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different guys from night to night. They are not on
the same page. And that comes back to, you're right, leadership.
And I don't think Jerry DePoto is a leader of men.
I don't think that he is. And I think that
he's relinquished a lot of those responsibilities. I think he
was too involved with the clubhouse. He was too dismissive
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of how valuable Kendall Graveman's and Paul Seawald's were to
the clubhouse. And he got rid of them. And he
admitted that that might have been a mistake. Even though
we got Dom Canzone to show for that. Right. I
don't know, maybe he didn't admit those specifically were mistakes,
but he has kind of backed off of not thinking
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that Clubhouse mattered. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I think that's been pretty evident.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah. So, I don't know. I don't know if we
got to the bottom of it all, but... I don't know.
We're all frustrated.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, we are.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And to me, I mean, I want you to keep
your chin up, Ashley. I want you, I mean, because
it's not technically over, but yeah, it feels over. Last
night it feels over.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I understand absolutely why people would feel that way and
why you would feel that way.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
And I should probably feel that way. I'm just really,
really stubborn.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Keep with it.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
We need it. We need somebody to feel.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I'm going to figure something out. If I have to
go back to Hawaii, I'll go back to Hawaii.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
All right. Coming up next, let's talk about Aaron Donald's return.
Let's take a break from this. Has he made the Rams? Invincible.
Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. I want to read this
real quick. I know I said I was moving on
from the Mariners, but this does sort of.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It's hard to move on.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah. This does sort of support what I've been saying
all along about this team, and it comes from a
really reputable source, Bob Dutton. Everybody knows Bob Dutton. Doesn't
cover the team anymore for his own health. But he
tweeted out, yesterday, I guess it was yesterday, August 31st. Yep. Yesterday, uh,
was talking to a friend who was a pro scout
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from NMLB club who said the word on the Mariners
is a lot of talent there, but just stay close
because they'll find a way to beat themselves.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah. Well, that's what we've seen.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
That's what we've, is that not what we've seen?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
How many times have we said, Oh, they found a
new way to lose.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yes. And that to me is not about the lack
of talent on this team. It's all about the way
they play together and, And I think that that is
a statement on managing and coaching. Yeah. He also added
that was before the game last night.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Oh, perfect.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
All right, let's talk some football. Let's talk some NFL.
We're eight days away. We're not going to play the
Rams for a long time. It is crazy that we
will not play the Rams until what? After Christmas, right?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
It's Christmas Day.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Christmas Day. And then the last game of the year
as well. So we don't play the Rams until Christmas.
christmas can you imagine the build-up yeah can you imagine
if both these teams are as good as.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
What it's gonna be epic you know.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
What everybody outside of seattle thinks the rams are going
to be we think they're going to be great too
um but they're just sleeping a little bit on the
champs i think well.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah the conversation has been as you mentioned yesterday could
they go undefeated yeah what everybody's talking about the rams yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That was the drive that was the conversation i listened
to on my drive-in yesterday So, yeah, that's where the
Rams are right now, where people are wondering, are they
going to go undefeated this year? And certainly the addition
of Aaron Donald makes them all that much more dangerous.
Hugh Millen was on with us yesterday, and Hugh Millen
had effusive praise for Aaron Donald.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Here's my Mount Rushmore defensive players, Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White.
We got to throw Dion in. We'll put in a
secondary guy, Dion and Aaron Donald. He's in the top
four defensive players I've ever seen. And the best defensive tackle,
the most disruptive. It's just insanity what the kind of
career that he had, you know, to say he's a
first ballot Hall of Famer would be the all-time understatement. So, yeah,
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that's who they've added. And, you know, he turned 35
in May. You just kind of hope that, Maybe Father
Time took a few chunks out of him that pull
him down to mortal status, but the idea of Miles
Garrett on one side and him, yeah, it's going to
be a load.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
It's going to be a problem. It's going to be
a problem.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I can't imagine not, unless indeed the time off and
the age really has caught.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Up to him.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Hugh Millen yesterday with us talking about Aaron Donald. I mean,
I put him on my Rushmore as well. I think
he's that great. I mean, talking about one of the
four best defensive players, I also, you know, I'm going
to brag, I'm going to, A little pat on the back.
I've had to mention how long I've been wrong. I've
been about the Mariners all show long. So I'm going
to do this. He was, and you can go back
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to the tape, Jackson Feltz might remember when we used
to do the show together, my favorite player coming out
of the draft when he came out of the draft.
So I didn't think he was going to be this,
but here he is now, I think maybe top four
player defensively of all time. And that is the question.
Two years removed. What can that do? Some people are
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saying there's no chance he's going to be the same player.
And then others obviously are scared because the same player
is returning to already the Super Bowl favorite. Yep. I
will say this about him, and I am not a
fan of him, but a great admirer of Aaron Donald.
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The crap wrecker. The original crap wrecker.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
That's what I've been thinking this whole time. He's back
to wreck more crap.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Curtis Crabtree's crap wrecker line.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And I just keep hearing Hugh going, how am I
crap intact?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
If anybody could do it at age 35, two years removed,
it is him.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Okay. So that's my compliment. I certainly am... not going
to dismiss the possibility that Aaron Donald's going to be similar,
if not the same. My guess is probably similar. He
probably will not be as great as the last time
that we saw him, but circle in the neighborhood. Yeah.
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That's my expectation.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I don't think he'd come back if he didn't think
he still had it.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Bingo. As a matter of fact, I think that's why
he took so long. I don't think Aaron Donald worries
about missing training camp. That's just my opinion. He's a workaholic.
I mean, he works out harder when he wasn't playing
football than most football players do. And I think it
was him testing himself like, it's one thing to go
to the gym and it's one thing to eat right.
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It's another thing to come back as a defensive lineman
in the National Football League and be ready to be
that again. And I think he spent Every single second
that he could, proving to himself, I'm not coming back
if I'm not the same player. I think the only
reason he's coming back is because he wants to experience
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life in the National Football League without being double and
triple teamed every single play. For once.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, what a joy that will be for him.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
For once since his rookie year, he's going to actually
not have offenses key everything around stopping him because you've
got Myles Garrett to deal with. Mm-hmm. and so he's
got to get some of that attention. So I think
that's why he's back. If he wanted to just be
a part of a championship team, he would have come
back in either of the last two years. He's coming
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back now because he finally has the guy that is
going to demand enough attention that you can't give all
your attention to Donald, and he wants to see what
he can do. So I'm expecting him to be great.
Maybe not at his all-time best, but I am expecting
him to be great. Here's what I'm also expecting. And
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this is what people are sleeping on. Like, what was
Byron Murphy described as coming out of college? Aaron Donald.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Maybe Aaron Donald light because you can't say, what, 13th
pick in the draft or whatever Byron was. You can't
just say, that's the next Aaron Donald. He's got to
earn it. That's reckless. Yeah. Because at that point, Donald
was the best football player defensively in the game. But
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what we've seen is two years of drastic improvement from Murphy.
Good as a rookie. Great in his second year. Under
the radar great in his second year. Should have been
all pro. First team all pro. Or at least second
team all pro. And now he gets that third year
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where you really, I think, might see that jump this year.
And he happens to be with Leonard Williams. So is
it Garrett and Donald? If Donald's as great as he
used to be, no. But those might be the two
best defensive players in the world right now. We have
the two best defensive tackle combo in the National Football League.
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And I think one of those guys is going to
get even better. And Byron Murphy, where if Leonard Williams
can stay the same, we've got our own quarterback. wreckers
yeah we do on the seahawks and we'll go ahead
and let everybody else sleep on that and talk about
garrett and donald till they're blue in the face um
but it's not like the cupboard's empty in.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Seattle no but if you listen to any national media
it's true it's not like the.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Seahawks are even here For sure.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
And I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I love it. I love it. Yep. Yeah, I'm great
with it. I mean, I don't love that the Rams
added Garrett and got Donald back. No, not that part.
I don't love that part. But if that's the world
that we're going to live in, then I love just
what you said. Then let them all talk. I would
rather that happen. That's how I best want to cope
with this.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Let everybody think they can't possibly lose. And then you've
got four months of football. to see exactly how good
they are, and then I think the Seahawks are going
to be in prime position two games out of three
to face the Rams, and then let's decide it.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, when have the Seahawks been at their best? When
people have underestimated them. I mean, last year, they were
not even remotely expected to win the Super Bowl. They
were expected to win eight games, wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Eight games? I think it was. Ridiculous. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
And they won the Super Bowl. And back in when
they won the Super Bowl with the Legion of Boom.
Nobody thought they were going to win the Super Bowl
that year.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
It is hard to be world champs and be slept on.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
And yet that's what you have. And I think Mike
McDonald loves it.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Oh, and he should.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yeah, exactly. He should. Formidable force. I know Aaron Donald's
going to make them better than they were. Yes. And
let them go on a magical run. And then we'll
see you on Christmas Day. And we'll decide this thing.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Them getting better doesn't make the Seahawks worse. And it
seems like a lot of people kind of think, oh,
now look. Well, we're still the same.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
We're good. Actually, we'll be better. Right. Because we won
with a lot of young players last year. All right,
coming up next. What's in store for the fall? It's
not just pumpkin lattes around here. Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Well,
you don't want your crap wrecked, do you? I mean,
I want my crap intact. All right, here we go.
(32:14):
As we embark on the fall, we have a 2026
fall lineup to announce to you here this morning on
Chuck in the Mornings. Not everything is set, but certainly
we have a lot of returnees from last year's award-winning
coverage of the football season, and we're excited to have
most of them. our crew back for this year to
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give you the very best in football coverage here in Seattle.
So I wanted to go over it with a couple
of wrinkles, a couple little twists that we'll be doing differently.
Number one, Factor Fiction returns. We'll start that as an
entire station on Monday, Labor Day. So that's coming up
this Monday. And we are going to start on the holiday.
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So keep that in mind. You may not be working,
but if you're going to play Factor Fiction, get to work.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
That's right. I like the way you put that.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
All right, so that's coming back for this upcoming year. Also,
this lineup is returning for this upcoming year. We will
have Mondays with Greg Bell and Hugh Millen this year.
It will be Greg 705 every Monday. Now, of course,
they don't always play on Sunday, but you know what
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I mean. And Hugh's going to be back for Monday
Morning Quarterback this year from 8 to 10. So we
certainly look forward to that. Tuesdays, and he will make
his debut for 2026. And about 12 minutes from now,
Rick Neuheisel will be back this year.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
All right, Nicky.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Looking good, coach. Yeah, coach.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Let's go for the game.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, I think he slimmed down since last we saw him.
Look at that guy, strutting across the stage like that.
The catwalk. Do your little turn on the catwalk, Neuheisel.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
He's strutting.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
So he'll be on 9 o'clock Tuesdays this year. Also
back this year is the official, the official, official, Jane
Sterator is back.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Get in here, Jean.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Come on. Get over here, you scamp. 8 o'clock on Tuesdays,
mean Jane Sterator will be joining us, the nicest man
in America. So we are very excited to have him
back again. This season. But we won't start with him
until next week. I'll start with you next week. That's right.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
You pay attention.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
On Wednesdays. Now, we've got something that's cooking on the
back burner. Wednesdays at 8 o'clock that we're really excited about.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Stay tuned. Very, very excited about. Can't say it now.
I think primarily because I don't want to jinx it. Right.
But it looks like we're really close to something new
and exciting 8 o'clock on Wednesdays.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Almost done.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
We're almost there. That doesn't mean that Cam Cleland 8
o'clock on Wednesdays wasn't exciting. It just wasn't new.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
And now he has a new and exciting place that
he's going to.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Be on our program.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
That's going to be Wednesdays at 9. Everybody was worried
about Cam's sleep. He's back, rested.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, he's going to be well-rested, ready to go.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Stronger, more bright-eyed than ever. So the color analyst of
your Washington Huskies, unless you're a Coug fan or a
Duck fan or a Gonzaga fan, Cam Cleland will be
back with us this year, every week at 9 o'clock.
So excited about that. On Thursday, Softee is back. New
time for Softee. He wants to come on at 7.30
(35:36):
this year instead of 7.05. So we're going to accommodate
him on that. So Softie will be back Thursdays with
Softie at 7.30. And we will also have Mike Sando
coming back to the radio program. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Our NFL Insider 9.30 on Thursdays as we look forward
(35:58):
to that. Roundtable every Thursday at 8 to 9 with
Greg and Hugh this year. And Ryan Healy will be
at 9 o'clock. through the end of the baseball season, which,
of course, is going to last through October. Obviously. I
said the baseball season will, of course, last through the month.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Ryan Healy, 9 o'clock for as long as supplies last.
And then we will have Football Friday this year with
Greg Bell, with Hugh Millen. with the Ocho, with our
fantasy college football league, and so much more. So that's
coming your way as well. And we're also working on
one other surprise at this point, which we can't tell
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you about today, but we are working on it. We
have two surprises. We think we're going to get them
to the finish line, but we'll tell you about it
when the time comes. The other thing, and one of
the reasons I wanted to go through this dog and
pony show here today, because the green jacket has been retired.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
So we're not going to do green jacket drafts anymore.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
It's the end of an era.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
But we are going to continue to draft.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Oh, phew.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Because it's the best thing in life. Right.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I say that to myself every night.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
So the green jacket is officially retired over there in
the corner. And so we're going to basically combine an
old bit I used to do at Jackson Feltz called
the showdown with the green jacket drafts that we've done.
So we're going to continue to draft, but... There's going
to be a new wrinkle to it this year. And
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this is why I'm telling you this here today. Because
tomorrow will be our first showdown draft. And this year,
we are going to have callers be the fourth challenger.
So your opportunity to compete with us. Now, we're going
to have drafts that are like a one-time thing, like
(37:52):
Home Run Derby. And it's just going to be that
one person, and they're going to represent the listener's And
they're going to be on that particular draft. I know
a lot of people play along in their cars with
the drafts and have wanted to do this, so we're
going to make that come true this year. So our
fourth drafter this year will be a caller drafter, and
they will represent all callers in those particular drafts and
(38:12):
competitions that we do. Now, there's also going to be
things like our Big Ten Fantasy League that we do,
where you have to make pickups every week. So that's
just a year-long thing. We're not going to use the
same person. Same person might draft the team, but the
pickups will be a different caller going forward. And you'll
have no opportunity to pick which caller gets to make
(38:35):
those choices for you. But it's high time now that
we've kind of changed over a little bit here in
the mornings that we get callers involved. Because I know
I hear from a lot of them that they want
to draft. They love drafting. They love our drafts that
we do. And so we're going to create that for
you this year. So there will be a fourth spot
for callers this year to be part of our showdown.
(38:56):
You match your drafting skills against ours. And so that's
going to start tomorrow. So if anybody wants to do this,
we're going to do our college football preview tomorrow. And
I'm not going to get your number or anything right now.
I'm just telling you, you may want to do a
little homework in case you want to do this tomorrow.
So we will need your national champion, your Big Ten champion,
(39:18):
your Heisman favorite. And then you will also have to
tell us UW's record this year. And if somebody else
takes your Heisman pick, then you don't get to take
that Heisman pick. Correct.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah, and you can't have the same team win the
Big Ten championship and the national championship.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
So those are our rules for tomorrow. So go ahead
and do some homework if you'd like. Tomorrow we'll call
for someone to draft with us. It'll be our college
football preview draft. And then we will do our Big
Ten preview draft on Tuesday. Thursday. So that takes a
little more homework. So if somebody wants to do that,
(39:56):
put some work into it. We'll be calling for a
caller to be part of our Big Ten Fantasy League
this year as well. So you'll have to draft four
guys for that. We'll give you the rules as we
get closer to Thursday. But that's going to be a
new wrinkle to our fall coverage this year. The showdown
is back, even though the showdown looks very much like
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the Green Jacket draft.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I'm excited. I want to win a trophy.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, we're going to have a trophy instead of a jacket.
All right, coming up next, Rick Neweisel will join us.
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Speaker 2 (40:30):
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Speaker 1 (40:32):
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