October 1, 2024 • 35 mins
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- Jack calls for a doxxing...
- The weak foundation of the pro-immigration argument...
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Some absolutely stunning remarks made by the Republican nominee for
president over the weekend, bringing this nation's history of campaign rhetoric,
even the particular field of harsh attacks, into a whole
new territory.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Joe Biden became mentally impaired.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Kamala was born that way, and if you think about it,
only a mentally disabled person could have allowed this to
happen to our country.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Anybody would know this.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Trump might have actually realized during his Wisconsin speech that
he was dragging campaign rhetoric into a whole new place,
because he himself commented, quote, this is a dark.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Speech he did.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
That was the end of the clip.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yes, he did by Gully.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
So one thing I always like when the lefty media
plays a Trump clip that I'm supposed to be disgusted
by and I end up laughing at and they don't
realize that, like half the country thinks it's funny. Well,
you think it's just the end of democracy, you know,
for better or worse. And then the other thing mentioned
this earlier, I had forgotten until I read the political
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news letter from Mark Alpern today. The Harris Walls ticket
is easily the most liberal ticket in US history.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
They're so far out of the mainstream.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
And I had forgotten that because I don't think the
Trump people are hammering it enough that should be like
the only message. I should be so like drenched in
that talking point that I couldn't forget it because it's something.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I mean, if you had the.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Most conservative ticket in US history, you'd be hearing about
it all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, And while I do Trump, I think Trump is
funny on one level.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
When I hear him on lisha line like that, I
hear the election being lost. I can't appreciate the humor
because he's not hammering what he should be hammering. He's
saying things that are alienating suburban women for no gain.
Anybody who's amused by that line of attack on Harris
has voted for him since twenty sixteen and will vote
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for him if he runs at the age of one
hundred and thirty fifty years from now.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
So it does nobody any good.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's going to lose the freaking election, and we're going
to have more teachers proselytizing toward little boys that they
ought to be little girls, and vice versa, and the
rest of the disgusting rot from the critical theory crowd.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I doubt Trump's going to live to be one hundred
and fifty, but uh, Jimmy Carter lived to be one
hundred today, oldest living president we've ever had. He'd already
set that record a couple of years ago, beating John Adams.
But Jimmy Carter president when I was a kid one
hundred years old today. Not in the best health, I guess,
but most people aren't when they're a hundred.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well, no, it's miraculous he's held on as long as
he has after his bounce with brain cancer.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
A different topic, we've been talking a lot about US
officials say Iran is gonna launch a ballistic missile attack
against Israel. We know it's coming, it's just a matter
of when. So that's a heck of an interesting story.
If you didn't catch our conversation with Mike Lyons about that,
get the hour three of the podcast to Armstrong and
getting on demand. But a number of people texted this
Rashashana begins Wednesday night at sundown. I would expect Iran
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to use the opportunity of a major Jewish holiday to
launch an attack they have many times in the past,
because a lot of your Jewish fighters actually followed those
strict rules, as we learned on October seventh, and weren't
available to fight back, which seems crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
It is crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
And when did you say Rasha Shana starts a number
of people attack. I don't actually know, but a number
of people texted that it's sundown tonight, tomorrow night, Wednesday night,
or whenever that hits on that side of a planet.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Okay, that'd be an odd thing to lie about. Thank
you for the information.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Friends.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, I have a feeling something truly historical maybe about
to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Well, a number of truly historical things have happened in
the last couple of weeks. But yeah, this could be
a yeah, a big one, really a big one.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
What does the weak, feckless Iran baiting or Biden administration
save Israel?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Goes big?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I've just despised their foreign policy so far, so I'm
prepared to be angered and disappointed again.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
But who's making the decision? At crunch time. He's not
always okay. Sometimes I think he probably is, but you know,
sometimes he's not well.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And blinkoln and Sullivan for instance, And I suspect they
are at the top of the food chain and foreign
policy they can browbeat or confuse an old man into
going along with their plans. I'm sure they can.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Well, I think I based on what I know, I
think I like Anthony Blincoln's foreign policy better than Joe Biden's.
So if he's taking the reins and I think that's better.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Maybe, speaking of foreign entanglements, Tim Wall's serial resume pattern
debating JD. Vance tonight, I'm hoping the old coach gets
sent back to Beijing. He claimed he was in Hong
Kong during the Tianmen massacre Tienman's Square massacre, and then
went into China. But now contemporary accounts and newspaper articles
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and pictures say no, he was home in Nebraska. He
wasn't in China at all during the tian Men Square massacre.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
So mind your own damn business.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
He didn't go dozens of times like he's been claiming
his whole life to China, which is a weird brag.
But he did go fifteen times. They think they can.
They they've nailed down, And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
He said thirty times repeatedly, So in other words, he
doubled it for some reason.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I don't care about that so much, I guess. But
who's old coach football coach in small town Middle America constantly.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Went to China. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I didn't know anybody who'd ever been to China as
from a small town Midwest school, not.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
One person, let alone. You know, Coach Walls.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
He's going to China again this weekend like he always does.
Poiser loves China, doesn't he? I mean, because fifteen times
is a lot. It's not as many as thirty, but
it's a lot.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Mind your own damn business.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Why are you constantly in China, Coach?
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Mind your own damn business.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
This may or may not bear the bitter fruit of communism.
Internal DHS group. This is the Department of Homeland Security.
They have documents on Tim Waltz's China ties, according to
a whistleblower, and the House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer
is sending us a pen of the DHS for intelligence
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reports on Waltz's ties to China and records from an
internal Microsoft teams group chat with information about walls. It's
sounds like a great whisper campaign to discredit the man.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
There could be fruit there though. I mean, as you
point out.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
What a good old fashioned Midwestern football coach, regular guy
going to China every damn chance he gets. Now, it's
a fascinating place. Maybe he just liked it.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
He talked there for a cup of Chinese tea, herbal.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Tea he liked really authentic sweet and sour pork.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Or he's got, you know, ties to China. Is what's
the term a communist agent?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Nobody knows for sure.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I'm not sure if he if you found a card
in his wallet that said member of the Communist Party,
it would make any difference. People are going to vote
for Trump or not. And that's the way it's going
for like ten years. Now.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Can we stop wasting our time? We probably should.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I don't think any of the election moves the need
other than you can Trump or like him or not
the end. Is there an audience for the debate tonight?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Oh yeah, I saw the figures from recent vice presidential debates.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It'll be tens of millions.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Wow, so no fact checking and an audience that's an
opportunity to land some exciting I don't think they're going
to change the election, but exciting things. I mean where
you say something in the.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Crowd ooh or yay, or.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
You know that sort of thing that happens usually stacked
to the benefit of the Democrat, and Walls is pretty
good with that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, he's capable for sure. JD's sharp though, too. That's
why I'm kind of looking forward to it. They are
a couple of pretty skilled pugilists. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I hope Jadvans can come off as smart as opposed
to just mean.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yes, yeah, I think he will. He's a quick study.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I'm just I'm looking back at at president and vice
presidential debates past. I mean, come, Harris acquitted herself fine
with Mike Pence.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Probably didn't change a single boat in America.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
No, and no event involving Mike Pence is going to
be anything but blandly earnest. I think these two guys
will exchange blows cool. I just hope hijin Ping calls
Walls and tells him, hey, I'm down with the socialism stuff,
but handing out tampons to dudes.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's just weird. Do you want to talk about weird?
That's weird. You got to cut it out, man, You
can give us a bad name.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
You want to talk about weird? Now, that's weird. China
has got to be thinking that. And most little boys.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Don't need tampons to him, He had no use for
him unless they get a bloody nose.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Then give him one before we take a break.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I came across somebody I want docks just because I
want to know about him.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Goodness.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Saw this picture in the some publication yesterday with the
headline being Taylor Swift has skipped two Chiefs games in
a row, and there's some speculation that there's trouble in
the relationship.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Or whatever, there's a falling out.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yes, clearly she's saying that security has become impossible, that
if it's not a home game, she just can't go that.
I could believe one hundred percent. Yes, that's just become
such a pain in the ass. Anyway, So the picture
they had with this unimportant article was somebody holding a
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sign that said go Taylor's boyfriend, and it's some youngish woman.
That's fine, But then next to her. You got this
guy who looks like he's forty eight, looks like just
a regular guy, could be a long sharman on strike,
holding a sign that says, where's Taylor?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I want him? Dust? I want to know what is
with you? Regular dude?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
You took the time to get a giant piece of
white cardboard and all the different colored magic markers so
you could write out where's Taylor with a heart.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
For the A and took to the football game. What
is your story?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Man?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Is he that desperate to be on TV? Is that's
gotta be it? That's gotta be it. I'll give him
a tiny pass for it.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
You just, for some reason wanted to be on TV
because you can't possibly care enough to have raptened this
sign and gone to the football game.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
And as a grown ass American man, Oh, wouldn't it
be more dignified to go rob a liquor store without
a mask on?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
See her face? It beyond evening TV?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Oh, steal lunch money from disabled kids? Come on something
with more dignity than this.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Wow, I just thought it was sad? Got it?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
One thing I would not want plastered on the in
the New York Post is me holding a ware's tailor's sign.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Oh, that reminds me the Babylon b is going just
absolutely hammer and tongs at Gavin Newsom and the anti
parody laws that Gavin is trying to get going and
just begging him for a fight.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Love it, love it, love it cool. We can get
to that coming up.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Also, it's the anniversary the thirty year anniversary of a
consequential pop music.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Album, among other things on the way, stay.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Tuned, Armstrong, Hetty, as though traveling to a whole nother
place and time.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
We recently watched.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Weezer delight a nostalgia crowd at Madison Square Garden, playing
every song in order from its debut album as part
of its Voyage to the Blue Planet tour.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
So Weezer is back as nineties nostalgia has hit a
real peak which will last for quite a while with
I'm old enough to have lived through seventies nostalgia, eighties nostalgia,
and now nineties nostalgia is really really hot thing. But
the Blue Album from Weezer came out thirty years ago
sold gazillions of copies.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I'm sorry that's not correct. It came out eight years ago.
I'm not thirty, not thirty.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
They're a new band.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Jack, They're not a classic rock They're a new band.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I know.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
I was just watching the pretty haired anchor up on
CBS News say that can't be true. He looks to
be about forty eight or something. So this came out
when he was a high schooler and he is like,
no freaking.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Way, yeah, buddy, trust me, we know.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Anyway, their tour and doing the whole Blue Album in order,
which I might take the kids to because they like
that music and it'd be fun. They look like us
now because they're thirty years older than they used to be.
But it's funny how that goes. Yeah, not much you
can do about that.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Wow, not really, no Ah.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
So I'm gonna start with the funny part then get
into the significant part.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So the folks at the.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Babylon b who are a national treasure, have sued Gavy
Newsome over this new anti misinformation disinformation law, which they're
characterizing as an anti parody law. But this is one
of my favorite exhibits. This is from part of the lawsuit.
It is a photoshopped picture an AI picture of Donald
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Trump making a speech, crowd flags behind him, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
And they're right on his shoulder.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Is Taylor Swift holding a sign that says yay Trump.
I don't know why it's more funny that it says
Trump and not Trump, but it says yay Trump, implying
that in fact.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It may actually say on the illustration.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Oh, no, Taylor Swift has endorsed Donald Trump in this
new real photo from a campaign to dad.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Oh, they just wanted to make it one extra level
of ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And one of the actual little paragraphs in the suit
says it is likewise unclear if the digitally altered image below,
which depicts Taylor Swift endorsing Donald Trump, violates AB twenty
eight thirty nine or ABE twenty six fifty five by
harming a candidate's quote electoral prospects, undermining quote confidence in
the election, or violating some other clause, because that's the
verbiage in the law. So dumb, yeah, but's so brilliant.
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Does the official want to attack it in that way?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Does the official ad from Kamala Harris in which they
play an truncated clip of Donald Trump saying blood in
the streets? How does that not meet this definition? That's
misleading to the point of damaging a candidate. That's that's
from the official Harris campaign. That's that some crazy meme
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or AI right right, it's absolutely true. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The Babylon BFI lawsuit Monday challenging California's anti satire laws,
saying Gov. Gav is trying to take the fun out
of politics. One law for bids posting or sharing online
deceptive content that harms the candidate's electoral prospects ahead of
an election, while in other social media companies to police
their platforms for anything that would run a foul of
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the new standard. Those who want to practice political satire
must attach a sort of product warning label, which the
visas effectively destroys the point of the satire.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Jack, I think you have single handedly won the case.
Did you?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Are you trying, Gavin Newsom to outlaw deceptive political ads?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Hum, I'll be darned what. It's so idiotic.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I feel unmotivated to try to refute it. It's are
you kidding? They must just think, well, all right, we're
going to pass this. It'll confuse or frighten people into
holding back through this election cycle. Then, in the style
of Joe Biden, the courts will say what you're doing
is blatantly unconstitutional and evil. You're gonna stop today, and
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you'll have done what you set out to do. You'll
have influenced an election cycle.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Gotden living in California where you got the prop system
and all the misleading prop ads and titles and everything
around it?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Show me some California politics that isn't dishonest.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
You like the Manning cast thing right where Eli and
Peyton watch a football game and you listen to them
talking about it.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, Monday night football.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
So Trump?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
So Trump announced he's going to do a similar thing
for the debate tonight. Oh no, He's going to do
a personal play by play coverage of the debate in
real time.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Oh all right, one more thing to record? Ah God,
can it get any more of sir?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
E Wow?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
So Jack, I'm just going to dive into this. I'm
still giggling about Yay Trump. By the way, the fake
Taylor Swift endorsement. The Babylon b is suing Gavy Newsom
over his flamingly anti First Amendment anti parody launch. One
of the stupidest ideas I've ever heard. But I'm just
gonna I'm gonna read some of this from Tom Ferriless.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
He's a journalist.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
He follows immigration and budgets and that sort of thing,
and jump in any time you want, interrupt, anytime you want.
All of us who are of grown age, little gray
hair whatever, we've been around, have been listening to the
dishonesty around the illegal immigration discussion now for decades, and
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there is new serious, in depth research on the budgetary
effect of immigration, legal and especially illegal, because there's so
much illegal immigration.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
You remember the first the first like spin lie that
I remember of around illegal immigration.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Was do you want a tomato to cost ten dollars?
Speaker 8 (19:01):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, love, as if there's just no way to have
tomatoes on earth unless you have illegal immigration.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
And I think back, yeah, who's going to pick your lettuce?
I think we are just in California at that point
as a show. And our answer was always somebody or
nobody or a machine. It'll be fine, We'll go let
us free. I'll grow my own. There's no reason I
open up the damn border. What kind of argument is that?
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Man?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
People have soft heads? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Among the benefits, economists often say immigration brings to aging
Western countries is a healthier public purse. Having more immigrants
expands to the supply of young, productive workers to pay
the taxes that finance the pensions and healthcare of the elderly,
the argument goes. New research shows the fiscal impact of
immigration is not that simple. The fiscal benefits are clear
for high skilled immigrants, but less so and possibly even
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negative for the lower skilled. According to some studies. This
is one of those studies of very thorough to be sure,
fiscal effects aren't the only consideration the current debate over immigration.
Other factors include the role of immigrants in reliving or
relieving labor shortages.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Who's gonna dismember your chickens? You want chickens to be
a million.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Bucksna dismember your chickens. That's what they do, right, Yeah, Yeah,
that's the reality.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
That's a fun job. That's what you do with your
humanities degree. I just remember, chickens. Leg goes this way,
the head goes the other.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Let's see also countering population decline, which is back to
propping up the social services or altering the existing character
of the communities where they settle.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
We're allowed to talk about that now. Oh, I thought
you were a.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Racist if you said, have the kids speak Spanish at
the schools, and the schools can't teach anymore. Funny how
those things change, isn't it? When I don't know, Martha's
vineyard gets here with a bunch of illegals.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Plus they got my cat on a barbecue.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Nonetheless, the fiscal effects have drawn more attention as migration
reaches record levels in the US in Europe, a plurality
of US voters, forty four percent believe immigrants make the
tax situation worse. Eighteen percent believe they make it better. Wow,
which is really.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Interesting in that.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
And it's funny that polls they always give, you know,
forty four percent believe this, but they don't mention. Only
eighteen percent believe otherwise. Right, And there are what would
that be thirty eight percent who either don't know or
undecided or said good, jail off my lawn. That's from
Gallup in fact and aggregate the recent surgeon, immigrants will
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reduce the federal deficit. According to the Congressional Budget Office,
it's mostly your higher skilled migrants have a bigger effect
than lower skilled migrants, although it said an increase in
less educated workers would also trigger stronger wage growth for
more edud people needed to work with them, So it's
very very imbalanced.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Low skilled immigrants, many claiming asylum, make up an unusually
large share of recent arrivals on both sides of the Atlantic,
and the CBO didn't estimate the impact of the surge
on state and local budgets hello, but said it expected.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Those costs to outweigh the revenues.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Ah, Okay, that's where yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I mean, because you look at the way local and
state coffers are filled. There are plenty of states with
significant income taxes, I guess, and theoretically even low skilled
immigrants who are not working for under the table wages
would be supporting that. But they're not paying property taxes,
and in many cases they are working under the table
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so they're not paying payroll taxes. But anyway, yeah, it
hammers the states and local guys. And then, to make
it even more complicated, regardless of background, people, what they
pay in taxes and consuming government services varies over their
life time. Before adulthood, they benefit from education, health services
because they're not working and paying taxes. Once they enter
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the workforce, they start contributing more in taxes, and then
they consuming state services, and as they retire, they stop earning,
draw heavily on government benefits and consume more health care
and more healthcare and social welfare. So it's a bit
of both, depends if you're talking state or local or federal.
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And one interesting aspect of this is if you agree
and you have to that it takes multiple young workers
to support a single retiree, particularly given the sky high
cost of medical care. We've just imported eleven million, mostly young,
low skilled people who will not be much of a tax.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Burden for a while.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
When that eleven million are old, we got to import
another thirty million.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I want to jump in with the breaking news. Iran
has started their attack on Israel or ready, oh boy,
two and forty missiles at four targets. I'm just reading
the up on the television.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It's just out of curiosity.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
If we've waited ten seconds to get to that news,
wouldn't that have altered the fabric of.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
This is a pretty big deal?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Though, This is a pretty big deal. Iran launches retaliatory
missile strikes in response to Israel attack. And we've been
talking about it since we came on the air this morning.
White House officials saying ballistic missiles they're expecting. And we
talked to Mike Lions earlier, who really thinks we're gonna
get drawn into it. I'm looking at the video right now,
and it is. If you've ever seen the Iron Dome
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when it's doing its thing, it's quite the it's quite
the fireworks show. And that's what they're showing right now
on the television, the Iron Dome not actually being a
dome made of iron. It's over Israel. It's just the
idea that you've got dis missile defense system that can
intercept practically anything coming its way, and they all explode
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up in the sky, so it looks like a fireworks show.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's a metaphree, you see.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, let me get to the right channel, Michael, then
maybe we can just bring that up because I would
I wouldn't mind hearing a little bit that some of
them are landing. You say, Anton, look like they're getting
through WHI channe am I on there? Okay, ABC, can
you bring up the audio on ABC? I'd like to
hear a little bit of this. Ian panels. There a
lot of lights.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
In the air.
Speaker 9 (25:24):
Now, what's unclear is whether these are ballistic missiles. We
believe Iran has fired over one hundred ballistic missiles. We
certainly know that the Iron Dome and other air defenses
are in operation.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
And this is happening right as we speak.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
A nationwide emergency alert to all Israelis to shelter all
our colleagues, people with friends and family are all hiding
now basically in bunkers, many people in their homes. They
have to kind of makeshift shelters, and everyone is now underground.
This came shortly after a terrorist attack in Israel. We're
told that this is possibly the first of four wave
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of attacks. Now this is almost If the two hundred
and fifty figure is right, that's almost double the size
of the attack that took place in April, remember Iran
attacking At that time, we suspected that there would be attacked, But.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
This is significantly larger.
Speaker 9 (26:15):
Israel has warned all of its citizens to take all precautions.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah, okay, so we will keep our eye on that
significantly larger attack than the one back in April, which
was described as most people as a very large attack.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
How in the world does Ian panel for all of
his awesome skills as a reporter and digger for fact,
how does he know that they're expecting four waves?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I don't know. That's is that some of the information
that's coming out of the White House, Because it started
with unnamed sources from the White House saying we know
Iran is about to attack, which turned out to be
what was that two hours before the attack began.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
And a senior White House official said the US would
help defend Israel and warned that direct attack against Israel, quote,
we'll carry severe consequences for Iran. But what does that
mean with the Biden administration? Are you going to sanction
their t cozy industry or.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Well, the severe sanctions might come from the Israeli military
because they are very well armed.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, overalls over Jerusalem, over one hundred ballistic missiles, and
I don't know if they shot them all down.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
We probably won't know for a while if what got through. Man, uh,
this could be uh. Joe earlier said if you didn't
hear it, that this could be some serious history. You're
making stuff happening over the next twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Certainly eight is going to take on a new tone tonight.
The veeps.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, and I like Vance's Oh that one looked like
it got through Looking at Tel Aviv, I like Vance's
chances better in this debate in terms of public opinion
being on his side depending on what Walls says.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
How afraid is Walls of appearing too hard on the
the Arab folks for his coalition there in Detroit? How
cautious will he be a Kamala has been much more
forthcoming with support for Israel lately. I think they've figured
out they were doing themselves more harm than good.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Yeah, she always does, though she always does the having
nobody ever has a follow up, so she always gets
away with having completely one hundred and eighty degree apart responses.
Israel has the right to defend itself when we support
Israel and everything they do, but a ceasefire must happen. Now,
oh wait a second, you kind of jerk my head
around there.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
What.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, they're defending themselves by fighting Hesba law. So yeah,
it's nonsensical. They're trying to have it both ways. It's
just dopey politics.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Yeah, we'll try to dig up any latest information on
this from a print media and that sort of thing,
and we'll be back in a little bit and stay here.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
We are in uncharted territory.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
But we can just tell you that tonight Israel is
under attack from Iran. Multiple ballistic missiles, up to one hundred,
according to initial reports, were just fired at this country.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yeah, this is happening as we are on the air.
Maybe you're catching this later, but this is how it's
beginning a massive attack on Israel. This is an act
of war, says the Open Source Intelligence.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Twitter feed.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
And also they retweet Jim Skuto of CNN missile or
missile fragment impacts downtown Tel Aviv with a picture, so
at least something got through the Iron Dome. Martha Ratt
it's up on ABC, said if there are any people
heard or killed, or any major infrastructure damage, Israel is
going to respond heavily. The voice thought, as interesting that.
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You know, the big Kui can swing hit me and
swing at me and swing at me. As long as
he misses, I keep it cool. But if he actually
hits me, even though he's trying to hit me, then
I retaliated. I don't quite get that.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I think that era is over for Israel.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
They indicated it with the way they took out Hezbolah
using capabilities they've had for a long time, but I
haven't used.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I think we're going to see a very different scene today.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
This started with White House officials saying in an attack
from Iran was imminent. Turned out they were completely right,
and we asked Mike Lyons about that earlier in the
show and we thought his response was interesting.
Speaker 10 (30:34):
I'm going to be a little cycle here and this
is sounding like an Israeli idf op. Why would the
White House announce this? Why I'm not following this on
some level, Why would the Why would they come out
and say the level of attack is going to be that?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Why?
Speaker 10 (30:53):
I just don't understand it. It's almost to the point
are they trying to Maybe they're prepping forces there, but
this is something that they should be somewhat silent about.
Is this a back channel to Iran?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
You know?
Speaker 10 (31:07):
The senior wide of official I'm looking at the Waalster
Journal article says a direct military tax from Rand against
Israel will carry severe consequences for RAND. So I think
that's what that's what this is. It's that level of
messaging and now we're now hip deep in it. If
we know this is going on, if this is what's
what's happening here, this is what we're past the point
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of something that we're able to get out of here peacefully.
This is not good on a lot of different levels.
And I'm just really concerned that the United States decided
to make this statement here. It might be true, it
might not be true, but why the United States would
put this out to me seems like something that Israel
would wanted us to do, and I'm just not getting it.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I think Mike Ashley touched upon the answer in his
speculation as Just moments ago, the New York Times White
House correspondent said President by Vice President Harris held a
meeting this morning with national security officials quote to discuss
Iranian plans to imminently launch a significant ballistic missile attack
against Israel. They reviewed US plans to help Israel defend
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against the attacks and protect Americans in the region. So
I think they put out the announcement just to give
everybody military and civilian a heads up that hey, it's coming.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
So looking at Open Source Intelligence again, it's a website
that's followed by I mean everybody who is in Buddy
Jennifer Griffin and Mike Lyons and all those people. So
they obviously believe this site for information and they get
it oftentimes. First, US officials state that Israel quote absolutely retaliate,
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will retaliate directly against Iran. So US officials say Israel
is going to directly retaliate against Iran.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
That's one.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
The other thing is between so far between two hundred
and fifty and three hundred ballistic missiles been launched against
Israel by ir And so this is gonna be some
story to follow in. Like Joe said earlier, it's gonna
be a big part of the debate.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Probably tonight almost finished.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Let's get ready.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Final thoughts with Armstrong and Gety. Here's your host for
final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew.
Michaelangelo are technical director, will lead the day. Michael, final thought.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
You know, I'm hoping for tonight at least briefly.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
Maybe for a moment of comedy, they bring out Jim
Gaffigan as uh, you know, as Waltz.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Just have him do a couple of lines at the podium.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
That would be odd. Katie Green has got the day off.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Jack a final thought for us, Yeah, well, there's a
chance this is gonna spiral into one history making couple
of days or weeks or months or years, depending on
how things go today. We'll keep our eye on it
and have all the latest tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Our final thought, Trump is so flawed, so terribly flawed.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
But when it.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Comes to deterring evil doers, mister I'm crazier than you
is much much more appealing than ms.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Let's not escalate.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
So you got reports of people who have been shot
in the Israeli city of Jaffa. Could be completely unrelated,
could be part of the plan.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Well, given that Iran's proxies are busy in the region.
As we've been discussing for a very long time, the
word went out, Hey, when the missiles start coming, starts shooting.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Wow, Armstrong in Getty rap I got another grueling for
our workday.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
So many people think, so little time.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Go to armstrong a getty dot com a lot of
good clicks for you. Join us tomorrow. We will bring
you the highlights and low lights of a the history
making more and the exciting vice presidential debate.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
See tomorrow. God bless America. I'm strong and Getty.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
This has to stop, and it has to stop like
the day before yesterday.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
It is a painful moment we get that. Yeah, absolutely,
are you sure? Oh dead sure, so let's go with
a bang.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
He had an odd haircut throughout most of his career too.
He had a haircut of like a bowl haircut, the
Prince Valiant.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, Christ Jenner right right, At least Pete stated, dude,
anyway
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Thanks you all very much, Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Some absolutely stunning remarks made by the Republican nominee for
president over the weekend, bringing this nation's history of campaign rhetoric,
even the particular field of harsh attacks, into a whole
new territory.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Joe Biden became mentally impaired.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Kamala was born that way, and if you think about it,
only a mentally disabled person could have allowed this to
happen to our country.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Anybody would know this.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Trump might have actually realized during his Wisconsin speech that
he was dragging campaign rhetoric into a whole new place,
because he himself commented, quote, this is a dark.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Speech he did.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
That was the end of the clip.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yes, he did by Gully.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
So one thing I always like when the lefty media
plays a Trump clip that I'm supposed to be disgusted
by and I end up laughing at and they don't
realize that, like half the country thinks it's funny. Well,
you think it's just the end of democracy, you know,
for better or worse. And then the other thing mentioned
this earlier, I had forgotten until I read the political
(01:28):
news letter from Mark Alpern today. The Harris Walls ticket
is easily the most liberal ticket in US history.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
They're so far out of the mainstream.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
And I had forgotten that because I don't think the
Trump people are hammering it enough that should be like
the only message. I should be so like drenched in
that talking point that I couldn't forget it because it's something.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I mean, if you had the.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Most conservative ticket in US history, you'd be hearing about
it all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, And while I do Trump, I think Trump is
funny on one level.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
When I hear him on lisha line like that, I
hear the election being lost. I can't appreciate the humor
because he's not hammering what he should be hammering. He's
saying things that are alienating suburban women for no gain.
Anybody who's amused by that line of attack on Harris
has voted for him since twenty sixteen and will vote
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for him if he runs at the age of one
hundred and thirty fifty years from now.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
So it does nobody any good.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's going to lose the freaking election, and we're going
to have more teachers proselytizing toward little boys that they
ought to be little girls, and vice versa, and the
rest of the disgusting rot from the critical theory crowd.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I doubt Trump's going to live to be one hundred
and fifty, but uh, Jimmy Carter lived to be one
hundred today, oldest living president we've ever had. He'd already
set that record a couple of years ago, beating John Adams.
But Jimmy Carter president when I was a kid one
hundred years old today. Not in the best health, I guess,
but most people aren't when they're a hundred.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well, no, it's miraculous he's held on as long as
he has after his bounce with brain cancer.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
A different topic, we've been talking a lot about US
officials say Iran is gonna launch a ballistic missile attack
against Israel. We know it's coming, it's just a matter
of when. So that's a heck of an interesting story.
If you didn't catch our conversation with Mike Lyons about that,
get the hour three of the podcast to Armstrong and
getting on demand. But a number of people texted this
Rashashana begins Wednesday night at sundown. I would expect Iran
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to use the opportunity of a major Jewish holiday to
launch an attack they have many times in the past,
because a lot of your Jewish fighters actually followed those
strict rules, as we learned on October seventh, and weren't
available to fight back, which seems crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
It is crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
And when did you say Rasha Shana starts a number
of people attack. I don't actually know, but a number
of people texted that it's sundown tonight, tomorrow night, Wednesday night,
or whenever that hits on that side of a planet.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Okay, that'd be an odd thing to lie about. Thank
you for the information.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Friends.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, I have a feeling something truly historical maybe about
to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Well, a number of truly historical things have happened in
the last couple of weeks. But yeah, this could be
a yeah, a big one, really a big one.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
What does the weak, feckless Iran baiting or Biden administration
save Israel?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Goes big?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I've just despised their foreign policy so far, so I'm
prepared to be angered and disappointed again.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
But who's making the decision? At crunch time. He's not
always okay. Sometimes I think he probably is, but you know,
sometimes he's not well.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And blinkoln and Sullivan for instance, And I suspect they
are at the top of the food chain and foreign
policy they can browbeat or confuse an old man into
going along with their plans. I'm sure they can.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Well, I think I based on what I know, I
think I like Anthony Blincoln's foreign policy better than Joe Biden's.
So if he's taking the reins and I think that's better.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Maybe, speaking of foreign entanglements, Tim Wall's serial resume pattern
debating JD. Vance tonight, I'm hoping the old coach gets
sent back to Beijing. He claimed he was in Hong
Kong during the Tianmen massacre Tienman's Square massacre, and then
went into China. But now contemporary accounts and newspaper articles
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and pictures say no, he was home in Nebraska. He
wasn't in China at all during the tian Men Square massacre.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
So mind your own damn business.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
He didn't go dozens of times like he's been claiming
his whole life to China, which is a weird brag.
But he did go fifteen times. They think they can.
They they've nailed down, And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
He said thirty times repeatedly, So in other words, he
doubled it for some reason.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I don't care about that so much, I guess. But
who's old coach football coach in small town Middle America constantly.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Went to China. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I didn't know anybody who'd ever been to China as
from a small town Midwest school, not.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
One person, let alone. You know, Coach Walls.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
He's going to China again this weekend like he always does.
Poiser loves China, doesn't he? I mean, because fifteen times
is a lot. It's not as many as thirty, but
it's a lot.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Mind your own damn business.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Why are you constantly in China, Coach?
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Mind your own damn business.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
This may or may not bear the bitter fruit of communism.
Internal DHS group. This is the Department of Homeland Security.
They have documents on Tim Waltz's China ties, according to
a whistleblower, and the House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer
is sending us a pen of the DHS for intelligence
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reports on Waltz's ties to China and records from an
internal Microsoft teams group chat with information about walls. It's
sounds like a great whisper campaign to discredit the man.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
There could be fruit there though. I mean, as you
point out.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
What a good old fashioned Midwestern football coach, regular guy
going to China every damn chance he gets. Now, it's
a fascinating place. Maybe he just liked it.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
He talked there for a cup of Chinese tea, herbal.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Tea he liked really authentic sweet and sour pork.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Or he's got, you know, ties to China. Is what's
the term a communist agent?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Nobody knows for sure.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I'm not sure if he if you found a card
in his wallet that said member of the Communist Party,
it would make any difference. People are going to vote
for Trump or not. And that's the way it's going
for like ten years. Now.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Can we stop wasting our time? We probably should.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I don't think any of the election moves the need
other than you can Trump or like him or not
the end. Is there an audience for the debate tonight?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Oh yeah, I saw the figures from recent vice presidential debates.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It'll be tens of millions.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Wow, so no fact checking and an audience that's an
opportunity to land some exciting I don't think they're going
to change the election, but exciting things. I mean where
you say something in the.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Crowd ooh or yay, or.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
You know that sort of thing that happens usually stacked
to the benefit of the Democrat, and Walls is pretty
good with that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, he's capable for sure. JD's sharp though, too. That's
why I'm kind of looking forward to it. They are
a couple of pretty skilled pugilists. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I hope Jadvans can come off as smart as opposed
to just mean.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yes, yeah, I think he will. He's a quick study.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I'm just I'm looking back at at president and vice
presidential debates past. I mean, come, Harris acquitted herself fine
with Mike Pence.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Probably didn't change a single boat in America.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
No, and no event involving Mike Pence is going to
be anything but blandly earnest. I think these two guys
will exchange blows cool. I just hope hijin Ping calls
Walls and tells him, hey, I'm down with the socialism stuff,
but handing out tampons to dudes.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's just weird. Do you want to talk about weird?
That's weird. You got to cut it out, man, You
can give us a bad name.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
You want to talk about weird? Now, that's weird. China
has got to be thinking that. And most little boys.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Don't need tampons to him, He had no use for
him unless they get a bloody nose.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Then give him one before we take a break.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I came across somebody I want docks just because I
want to know about him.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Goodness.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Saw this picture in the some publication yesterday with the
headline being Taylor Swift has skipped two Chiefs games in
a row, and there's some speculation that there's trouble in
the relationship.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Or whatever, there's a falling out.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yes, clearly she's saying that security has become impossible, that
if it's not a home game, she just can't go that.
I could believe one hundred percent. Yes, that's just become
such a pain in the ass. Anyway, So the picture
they had with this unimportant article was somebody holding a
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sign that said go Taylor's boyfriend, and it's some youngish woman.
That's fine, But then next to her. You got this
guy who looks like he's forty eight, looks like just
a regular guy, could be a long sharman on strike,
holding a sign that says, where's Taylor?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I want him? Dust? I want to know what is
with you? Regular dude?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
You took the time to get a giant piece of
white cardboard and all the different colored magic markers so
you could write out where's Taylor with a heart.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
For the A and took to the football game. What
is your story?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Man?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Is he that desperate to be on TV? Is that's
gotta be it? That's gotta be it. I'll give him
a tiny pass for it.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
You just, for some reason wanted to be on TV
because you can't possibly care enough to have raptened this
sign and gone to the football game.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
And as a grown ass American man, Oh, wouldn't it
be more dignified to go rob a liquor store without
a mask on?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
See her face? It beyond evening TV?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Oh, steal lunch money from disabled kids? Come on something
with more dignity than this.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Wow, I just thought it was sad? Got it?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
One thing I would not want plastered on the in
the New York Post is me holding a ware's tailor's sign.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Oh, that reminds me the Babylon b is going just
absolutely hammer and tongs at Gavin Newsom and the anti
parody laws that Gavin is trying to get going and
just begging him for a fight.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Love it, love it, love it cool. We can get
to that coming up.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Also, it's the anniversary the thirty year anniversary of a
consequential pop music.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Album, among other things on the way, stay.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Tuned, Armstrong, Hetty, as though traveling to a whole nother
place and time.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
We recently watched.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Weezer delight a nostalgia crowd at Madison Square Garden, playing
every song in order from its debut album as part
of its Voyage to the Blue Planet tour.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
So Weezer is back as nineties nostalgia has hit a
real peak which will last for quite a while with
I'm old enough to have lived through seventies nostalgia, eighties nostalgia,
and now nineties nostalgia is really really hot thing. But
the Blue Album from Weezer came out thirty years ago
sold gazillions of copies.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I'm sorry that's not correct. It came out eight years ago.
I'm not thirty, not thirty.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
They're a new band.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Jack, They're not a classic rock They're a new band.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I know.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
I was just watching the pretty haired anchor up on
CBS News say that can't be true. He looks to
be about forty eight or something. So this came out
when he was a high schooler and he is like,
no freaking.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Way, yeah, buddy, trust me, we know.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Anyway, their tour and doing the whole Blue Album in order,
which I might take the kids to because they like
that music and it'd be fun. They look like us
now because they're thirty years older than they used to be.
But it's funny how that goes. Yeah, not much you
can do about that.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Wow, not really, no Ah.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
So I'm gonna start with the funny part then get
into the significant part.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So the folks at the.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Babylon b who are a national treasure, have sued Gavy
Newsome over this new anti misinformation disinformation law, which they're
characterizing as an anti parody law. But this is one
of my favorite exhibits. This is from part of the lawsuit.
It is a photoshopped picture an AI picture of Donald
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Trump making a speech, crowd flags behind him, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
And they're right on his shoulder.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Is Taylor Swift holding a sign that says yay Trump.
I don't know why it's more funny that it says
Trump and not Trump, but it says yay Trump, implying
that in fact.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It may actually say on the illustration.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Oh, no, Taylor Swift has endorsed Donald Trump in this
new real photo from a campaign to dad.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Oh, they just wanted to make it one extra level
of ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And one of the actual little paragraphs in the suit
says it is likewise unclear if the digitally altered image below,
which depicts Taylor Swift endorsing Donald Trump, violates AB twenty
eight thirty nine or ABE twenty six fifty five by
harming a candidate's quote electoral prospects, undermining quote confidence in
the election, or violating some other clause, because that's the
verbiage in the law. So dumb, yeah, but's so brilliant.
(15:27):
Does the official want to attack it in that way?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Does the official ad from Kamala Harris in which they
play an truncated clip of Donald Trump saying blood in
the streets? How does that not meet this definition? That's
misleading to the point of damaging a candidate. That's that's
from the official Harris campaign. That's that some crazy meme
(15:52):
or AI right right, it's absolutely true. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The Babylon BFI lawsuit Monday challenging California's anti satire laws,
saying Gov. Gav is trying to take the fun out
of politics. One law for bids posting or sharing online
deceptive content that harms the candidate's electoral prospects ahead of
an election, while in other social media companies to police
their platforms for anything that would run a foul of
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the new standard. Those who want to practice political satire
must attach a sort of product warning label, which the
visas effectively destroys the point of the satire.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Jack, I think you have single handedly won the case.
Did you?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Are you trying, Gavin Newsom to outlaw deceptive political ads?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Hum, I'll be darned what. It's so idiotic.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I feel unmotivated to try to refute it. It's are
you kidding? They must just think, well, all right, we're
going to pass this. It'll confuse or frighten people into
holding back through this election cycle. Then, in the style
of Joe Biden, the courts will say what you're doing
is blatantly unconstitutional and evil. You're gonna stop today, and
(17:07):
you'll have done what you set out to do. You'll
have influenced an election cycle.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Gotden living in California where you got the prop system
and all the misleading prop ads and titles and everything
around it?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Show me some California politics that isn't dishonest.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
You like the Manning cast thing right where Eli and
Peyton watch a football game and you listen to them
talking about it.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, Monday night football.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
So Trump?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
So Trump announced he's going to do a similar thing
for the debate tonight. Oh no, He's going to do
a personal play by play coverage of the debate in
real time.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Oh all right, one more thing to record? Ah God,
can it get any more of sir?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
E Wow?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
So Jack, I'm just going to dive into this. I'm
still giggling about Yay Trump. By the way, the fake
Taylor Swift endorsement. The Babylon b is suing Gavy Newsom
over his flamingly anti First Amendment anti parody launch. One
of the stupidest ideas I've ever heard. But I'm just
gonna I'm gonna read some of this from Tom Ferriless.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
He's a journalist.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
He follows immigration and budgets and that sort of thing,
and jump in any time you want, interrupt, anytime you want.
All of us who are of grown age, little gray
hair whatever, we've been around, have been listening to the
dishonesty around the illegal immigration discussion now for decades, and
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there is new serious, in depth research on the budgetary
effect of immigration, legal and especially illegal, because there's so
much illegal immigration.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
You remember the first the first like spin lie that
I remember of around illegal immigration.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Was do you want a tomato to cost ten dollars?
Speaker 8 (19:01):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, love, as if there's just no way to have
tomatoes on earth unless you have illegal immigration.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
And I think back, yeah, who's going to pick your lettuce?
I think we are just in California at that point
as a show. And our answer was always somebody or
nobody or a machine. It'll be fine, We'll go let
us free. I'll grow my own. There's no reason I
open up the damn border. What kind of argument is that?
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Man?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
People have soft heads? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Among the benefits, economists often say immigration brings to aging
Western countries is a healthier public purse. Having more immigrants
expands to the supply of young, productive workers to pay
the taxes that finance the pensions and healthcare of the elderly,
the argument goes. New research shows the fiscal impact of
immigration is not that simple. The fiscal benefits are clear
for high skilled immigrants, but less so and possibly even
(19:54):
negative for the lower skilled. According to some studies. This
is one of those studies of very thorough to be sure,
fiscal effects aren't the only consideration the current debate over immigration.
Other factors include the role of immigrants in reliving or
relieving labor shortages.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Who's gonna dismember your chickens? You want chickens to be
a million.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Bucksna dismember your chickens. That's what they do, right, Yeah, Yeah,
that's the reality.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
That's a fun job. That's what you do with your
humanities degree. I just remember, chickens. Leg goes this way,
the head goes the other.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Let's see also countering population decline, which is back to
propping up the social services or altering the existing character
of the communities where they settle.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
We're allowed to talk about that now. Oh, I thought
you were a.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Racist if you said, have the kids speak Spanish at
the schools, and the schools can't teach anymore. Funny how
those things change, isn't it? When I don't know, Martha's
vineyard gets here with a bunch of illegals.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Plus they got my cat on a barbecue.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Nonetheless, the fiscal effects have drawn more attention as migration
reaches record levels in the US in Europe, a plurality
of US voters, forty four percent believe immigrants make the
tax situation worse. Eighteen percent believe they make it better. Wow,
which is really.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Interesting in that.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
And it's funny that polls they always give, you know,
forty four percent believe this, but they don't mention. Only
eighteen percent believe otherwise. Right, And there are what would
that be thirty eight percent who either don't know or
undecided or said good, jail off my lawn. That's from
Gallup in fact and aggregate the recent surgeon, immigrants will
(21:42):
reduce the federal deficit. According to the Congressional Budget Office,
it's mostly your higher skilled migrants have a bigger effect
than lower skilled migrants, although it said an increase in
less educated workers would also trigger stronger wage growth for
more edud people needed to work with them, So it's
very very imbalanced.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Low skilled immigrants, many claiming asylum, make up an unusually
large share of recent arrivals on both sides of the Atlantic,
and the CBO didn't estimate the impact of the surge
on state and local budgets hello, but said it expected.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Those costs to outweigh the revenues.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Ah, Okay, that's where yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I mean, because you look at the way local and
state coffers are filled. There are plenty of states with
significant income taxes, I guess, and theoretically even low skilled
immigrants who are not working for under the table wages
would be supporting that. But they're not paying property taxes,
and in many cases they are working under the table
(22:46):
so they're not paying payroll taxes. But anyway, yeah, it
hammers the states and local guys. And then, to make
it even more complicated, regardless of background, people, what they
pay in taxes and consuming government services varies over their
life time. Before adulthood, they benefit from education, health services
because they're not working and paying taxes. Once they enter
(23:06):
the workforce, they start contributing more in taxes, and then
they consuming state services, and as they retire, they stop earning,
draw heavily on government benefits and consume more health care
and more healthcare and social welfare. So it's a bit
of both, depends if you're talking state or local or federal.
(23:29):
And one interesting aspect of this is if you agree
and you have to that it takes multiple young workers
to support a single retiree, particularly given the sky high
cost of medical care. We've just imported eleven million, mostly young,
low skilled people who will not be much of a tax.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Burden for a while.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
When that eleven million are old, we got to import
another thirty million.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I want to jump in with the breaking news. Iran
has started their attack on Israel or ready, oh boy,
two and forty missiles at four targets. I'm just reading
the up on the television.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It's just out of curiosity.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
If we've waited ten seconds to get to that news,
wouldn't that have altered the fabric of.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
This is a pretty big deal?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Though, This is a pretty big deal. Iran launches retaliatory
missile strikes in response to Israel attack. And we've been
talking about it since we came on the air this morning.
White House officials saying ballistic missiles they're expecting. And we
talked to Mike Lions earlier, who really thinks we're gonna
get drawn into it. I'm looking at the video right now,
and it is. If you've ever seen the Iron Dome
(24:39):
when it's doing its thing, it's quite the it's quite
the fireworks show. And that's what they're showing right now
on the television, the Iron Dome not actually being a
dome made of iron. It's over Israel. It's just the
idea that you've got dis missile defense system that can
intercept practically anything coming its way, and they all explode
(24:59):
up in the sky, so it looks like a fireworks show.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's a metaphree, you see.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, let me get to the right channel, Michael, then
maybe we can just bring that up because I would
I wouldn't mind hearing a little bit that some of
them are landing. You say, Anton, look like they're getting
through WHI channe am I on there? Okay, ABC, can
you bring up the audio on ABC? I'd like to
hear a little bit of this. Ian panels. There a
lot of lights.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
In the air.
Speaker 9 (25:24):
Now, what's unclear is whether these are ballistic missiles. We
believe Iran has fired over one hundred ballistic missiles. We
certainly know that the Iron Dome and other air defenses
are in operation.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
And this is happening right as we speak.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
A nationwide emergency alert to all Israelis to shelter all
our colleagues, people with friends and family are all hiding
now basically in bunkers, many people in their homes. They
have to kind of makeshift shelters, and everyone is now underground.
This came shortly after a terrorist attack in Israel. We're
told that this is possibly the first of four wave
(26:00):
of attacks. Now this is almost If the two hundred
and fifty figure is right, that's almost double the size
of the attack that took place in April, remember Iran
attacking At that time, we suspected that there would be attacked, But.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
This is significantly larger.
Speaker 9 (26:15):
Israel has warned all of its citizens to take all precautions.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah, okay, so we will keep our eye on that
significantly larger attack than the one back in April, which
was described as most people as a very large attack.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
How in the world does Ian panel for all of
his awesome skills as a reporter and digger for fact,
how does he know that they're expecting four waves?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I don't know. That's is that some of the information
that's coming out of the White House, Because it started
with unnamed sources from the White House saying we know
Iran is about to attack, which turned out to be
what was that two hours before the attack began.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
And a senior White House official said the US would
help defend Israel and warned that direct attack against Israel, quote,
we'll carry severe consequences for Iran. But what does that
mean with the Biden administration? Are you going to sanction
their t cozy industry or.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Well, the severe sanctions might come from the Israeli military
because they are very well armed.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, overalls over Jerusalem, over one hundred ballistic missiles, and
I don't know if they shot them all down.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
We probably won't know for a while if what got through. Man, uh,
this could be uh. Joe earlier said if you didn't
hear it, that this could be some serious history. You're
making stuff happening over the next twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Certainly eight is going to take on a new tone tonight.
The veeps.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, and I like Vance's Oh that one looked like
it got through Looking at Tel Aviv, I like Vance's
chances better in this debate in terms of public opinion
being on his side depending on what Walls says.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
How afraid is Walls of appearing too hard on the
the Arab folks for his coalition there in Detroit? How
cautious will he be a Kamala has been much more
forthcoming with support for Israel lately. I think they've figured
out they were doing themselves more harm than good.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Yeah, she always does, though she always does the having
nobody ever has a follow up, so she always gets
away with having completely one hundred and eighty degree apart responses.
Israel has the right to defend itself when we support
Israel and everything they do, but a ceasefire must happen. Now,
oh wait a second, you kind of jerk my head
around there.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
What.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, they're defending themselves by fighting Hesba law. So yeah,
it's nonsensical. They're trying to have it both ways. It's
just dopey politics.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Yeah, we'll try to dig up any latest information on
this from a print media and that sort of thing,
and we'll be back in a little bit and stay here.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
We are in uncharted territory.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
But we can just tell you that tonight Israel is
under attack from Iran. Multiple ballistic missiles, up to one hundred,
according to initial reports, were just fired at this country.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yeah, this is happening as we are on the air.
Maybe you're catching this later, but this is how it's
beginning a massive attack on Israel. This is an act
of war, says the Open Source Intelligence.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Twitter feed.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
And also they retweet Jim Skuto of CNN missile or
missile fragment impacts downtown Tel Aviv with a picture, so
at least something got through the Iron Dome. Martha Ratt
it's up on ABC, said if there are any people
heard or killed, or any major infrastructure damage, Israel is
going to respond heavily. The voice thought, as interesting that.
(29:58):
You know, the big Kui can swing hit me and
swing at me and swing at me. As long as
he misses, I keep it cool. But if he actually
hits me, even though he's trying to hit me, then
I retaliated. I don't quite get that.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I think that era is over for Israel.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
They indicated it with the way they took out Hezbolah
using capabilities they've had for a long time, but I
haven't used.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I think we're going to see a very different scene today.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
This started with White House officials saying in an attack
from Iran was imminent. Turned out they were completely right,
and we asked Mike Lyons about that earlier in the
show and we thought his response was interesting.
Speaker 10 (30:34):
I'm going to be a little cycle here and this
is sounding like an Israeli idf op. Why would the
White House announce this? Why I'm not following this on
some level, Why would the Why would they come out
and say the level of attack is going to be that?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Why?
Speaker 10 (30:53):
I just don't understand it. It's almost to the point
are they trying to Maybe they're prepping forces there, but
this is something that they should be somewhat silent about.
Is this a back channel to Iran?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
You know?
Speaker 10 (31:07):
The senior wide of official I'm looking at the Waalster
Journal article says a direct military tax from Rand against
Israel will carry severe consequences for RAND. So I think
that's what that's what this is. It's that level of
messaging and now we're now hip deep in it. If
we know this is going on, if this is what's
what's happening here, this is what we're past the point
(31:29):
of something that we're able to get out of here peacefully.
This is not good on a lot of different levels.
And I'm just really concerned that the United States decided
to make this statement here. It might be true, it
might not be true, but why the United States would
put this out to me seems like something that Israel
would wanted us to do, and I'm just not getting it.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I think Mike Ashley touched upon the answer in his
speculation as Just moments ago, the New York Times White
House correspondent said President by Vice President Harris held a
meeting this morning with national security officials quote to discuss
Iranian plans to imminently launch a significant ballistic missile attack
against Israel. They reviewed US plans to help Israel defend
(32:11):
against the attacks and protect Americans in the region. So
I think they put out the announcement just to give
everybody military and civilian a heads up that hey, it's coming.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
So looking at Open Source Intelligence again, it's a website
that's followed by I mean everybody who is in Buddy
Jennifer Griffin and Mike Lyons and all those people. So
they obviously believe this site for information and they get
it oftentimes. First, US officials state that Israel quote absolutely retaliate,
(32:45):
will retaliate directly against Iran. So US officials say Israel
is going to directly retaliate against Iran.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
That's one.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
The other thing is between so far between two hundred
and fifty and three hundred ballistic missiles been launched against
Israel by ir And so this is gonna be some
story to follow in. Like Joe said earlier, it's gonna
be a big part of the debate.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Probably tonight almost finished.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Let's get ready.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Final thoughts with Armstrong and Gety. Here's your host for
final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew.
Michaelangelo are technical director, will lead the day. Michael, final thought.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
You know, I'm hoping for tonight at least briefly.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
Maybe for a moment of comedy, they bring out Jim
Gaffigan as uh, you know, as Waltz.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Just have him do a couple of lines at the podium.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
That would be odd. Katie Green has got the day off.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Jack a final thought for us, Yeah, well, there's a
chance this is gonna spiral into one history making couple
of days or weeks or months or years, depending on
how things go today. We'll keep our eye on it
and have all the latest tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Our final thought, Trump is so flawed, so terribly flawed.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
But when it.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Comes to deterring evil doers, mister I'm crazier than you
is much much more appealing than ms.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Let's not escalate.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
So you got reports of people who have been shot
in the Israeli city of Jaffa. Could be completely unrelated,
could be part of the plan.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Well, given that Iran's proxies are busy in the region.
As we've been discussing for a very long time, the
word went out, Hey, when the missiles start coming, starts shooting.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Wow, Armstrong in Getty rap I got another grueling for
our workday.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
So many people think, so little time.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Go to armstrong a getty dot com a lot of
good clicks for you. Join us tomorrow. We will bring
you the highlights and low lights of a the history
making more and the exciting vice presidential debate.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
See tomorrow. God bless America. I'm strong and Getty.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
This has to stop, and it has to stop like
the day before yesterday.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
It is a painful moment we get that. Yeah, absolutely,
are you sure? Oh dead sure, so let's go with
a bang.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
He had an odd haircut throughout most of his career too.
He had a haircut of like a bowl haircut, the
Prince Valiant.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, Christ Jenner right right, At least Pete stated, dude,
anyway
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