October 14, 2024 • 35 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- We don't want to regulate free speech!
- Space X tower catches returning rocket
- Now they want Trump's health records
- Some inappropriate jokes
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Katsey I know he Armstrong and Eddy,
we know that.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
He does not have the ability to do the job.
He is unfit for office. He talks at his rallies
about fictional characters. He constantly is in a state of
grievance about himself. He has no plans for the American people,
and then he just makes things up on a full
time basis.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So that's Kamala Harris from the same tarmac. A little
speech she gave on Friday or Saturday where she started
getting into Trump needs to release his medical records. She
talked about how she released hers and as as a
fifty nine year old woman, she's basically healthy as you'd expect.
But Trump needs to release his medical records and that's
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a scandal and all that sort of stuff. Maybe we
talk about that particular aspect of it more later, but
for instance there, because we're going to talk about free speech,
she said, he references fictional characters. Yeah, she's talking about
when he talks about Hannibal Lecter, which he talks about
a lot which is weird, and he always works it
in somehow. But it's not like he's making up. I mean,
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she's implying that he's like delusional and things that don't exist.
He starts talking.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
About is the senator from Vermont?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Right yeah, right now, right right now? And and that's
what she's implying. And both sides do this all the time.
They say things that are well, they're just they're just
factually not true or designed to be misleading.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Happens all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's in their very ads, the ads where they talk
about Trump promises a blood bath if he loses, and
we all know, well, you know if you listen to
the show talking about the electric car industry, not blood.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
In the streets.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So that is misinformation, which leads us to this whole
free speech issue that has become so interesting. I got
a couple of different examples. This is from The Atlantic,
very highly respected left leaning magazine, which is a website
that they used to print on paper for some reason,
The Atlantic is a website. Does anybody actually get it
a copy of the Atlantic anymore?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Can you get a copy of The Atlantic? Yes, you can,
you can.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You know why that is because people like to have
it sitting on their coffee table because it makes you
look important and smart.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yes, yes, those idiots do, but not me. You still
get the Atlantic I used to get it. I do
because I want to hear what arguments they're making. Huh oh, well,
I like the Atlantic When it's good, it's very very good.
When it's obnoxious, it's completely obnoxious.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
But here's one of the stories from last week, written
by a guy named Charlie Worzel. His headline was, I'm
running out of ways to explain how bad this is.
What's happening in America today is something darker than a
misinformation crisis. Here's a little quote from it. Free speech
was and is an unmitigated disaster. I know it sounds inflammatory,
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but every piece of evidence points to the fact that
we really need aggressive government regulation of speech platforms. The
free market does not work and never will with speech
that is one of the more dangerous people in America.
That fella right there, and people who think like him.
Can you believe? Can you imagine being that delusional? We
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need to empower the government to censor us. That will
help us have a happy life. Well, and the examples
I just gave so I suppose this guy would think, no,
this stuff Kamala Harris said about bloodbath, that's okay, ure,
But stuff Trump saying that is misleading or false is
got to be outlawed like.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
The one sided fact checking. Right here's it.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
For instance, I'm watching the football yesterday, the briefly entertaining
Steelers Raiders game, hearkening back to the rivalry of old
but the Raiders just.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Plots to anyway.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Ah. But there are a bunch of local political commercials,
various congressional races, including oh, by the way, every single
Democratic ad was about abortion. Each one that I saw
was about abortion, and one made crystal clear. And this
is a really tight, interesting race. That longtime friend of
the Armstrong and Getty show, Kevin Kylie, who is a
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really good guy and really good on liberty, that he
believes there should be no abortion even in cases of
rape and incest and child molestation.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
And mabe, I thought, wait.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
A minute, really, I don't think that doesn't sound like Kevin,
and I looked it up. That is utterly false, utterly false.
It's been quote unquote fact checked and is so false.
Even the fact checkers, who tend to be lefties said No,
that's not true, utter falsehood. So do I want the
government to step in and prosecute political speech for being incorrect?
Speaker 5 (04:59):
No, of course not.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
But that's a the desperation that they have. And b
I'll bet the Atlantic doesn't mention that sort of thing
at all.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Right, And again the sub headline on this from this
guy who I don't know how you can be smart
and not understand this running out of excuses, of ways
to explain how bad this is is the headline in
the technology part. The free market doesn't work and never
will when it comes to regulating speech.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
No, regulating, No, we don't want to, sir. We want
to refute it, argue it be better than it, like
always in our history.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
But so him is a smart guy, you know, he
writes for The Atlantic, that's pretty successful journalism career. Does
he believe that the government could get involved in a
fair way?
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Is that what he is?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
That what that crowd believes? Yes, yeah, they're delusional. Intelligence
and wisdom have about the same relationship as height and
playing the violin, None that I can see.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Like Thomas sol says, there are some ideas so ridiculous
or ludicrous only an intellectual could believe them.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Well, I feel like I can argue him out of
his position in like half an hour. And I'm sure
he's smarter than I am. But i'd say, so, whatever
board you're gonna put in place to make this these decisions,
are you okay if Trump wins and then he.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Appoints the board, because that's what's going to happen. You realize.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
That a lack of wisdom that ella fantine is difficult
for me to picture, and I'm not sure how to
argue against it.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Well, I know i'd argue against it. I just don't
know that it would work because.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I can't picture what he is thinking other than being utterly,
like religiously convinced that our side is always right and
when we're wrong, it's just an accident. But even if
the other side is utterly dishonest and evil.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Even if you believe that which is nuts, Yeah, your
side isn't always going to win, So then the other
side's going to get to do this?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Are you okay with that? That's my point.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Maybe he's one of those guys who is so convinced that,
you know, Republicans, if we can only suppress this misinformation
and disinformation.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
What's the difference between those two? By the way, I
don't have to go with both. That's true. People always
say both.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Hm.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Anyway, ah, it doesn't matter degrees of incorrectness, I guess anyway.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Oh, he probably believes to his soul that if we
can expose the evil of the terrible Republicans, they will
never win another election.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
You'd have to believe that, otherwise your plan is not
going to work again.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
The capacity for really intelligent people to utterly lack wisdom
is one of the more amazing things I've learned to
accept as an adult.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
I haven't accepted it yet. I need to work on it.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Well, I need to work on my abs. So you know,
we both got our tasks ahead of us. The appropriately
named James Freeman in the Wall Street Journal wrote a
great opinion piece recently about Kamala Harris's long history of
hostility to free expression, and he quotes Bobby Suave from
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Reason dot Com, who was writing about the fact that
Tim Watz keeps repeating his false claim that the US
Constitution's First Amendment does not protect misinformation or hate speech.
Suave writs Walls defended his position by glibly asserting that
it is constitutionally impromissible to yell fire and a crowded theater.
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And we went over this last week, I guess or
the week before. It comes from a nineteen nineteen case
Shank vers the United States, which was one of the
worst Supreme Court decisions of all time, utterly disregards the
First Amendment. It was overturned, disavowed, and the idea that
Oliver Wendell Holmes was trying to express, who is that?
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You know, if it seems unwise or somebody might get hurt, we.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Can limit free speech, we can prohibit it.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
And again that that doctrine has been completely flushed down
the toilet of history, partly because of the toilet of history. Yes, yes,
you know toh. Anyway, today we recognize the right to
criticize US military policy in a post foreign wars are
an essential component of the First Amendment, and the Supreme
Court agreed. Shank was overturned da da da as, just
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as Samuel Alito when a twenty seventeen blockbuster observed that quote,
the proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that
we protect the freedom to express the thought we hate
It could not be more simple. Hate speech is protected
by the First Amendment, and it shouldn't be surprising. If
hate speech constituted unprotected speech, it would create all sorts
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of problems. What counts as hateful speech is partly suggest subjective.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, exactly, That's that's problem number one with the term
hate speech at all.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Who gets to decide what's hate speech?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Religious people, for instance, might find blastphemy to be hateful,
but it's sufficiently obvious that the federal government cannot criminalize
criticism of religion. Similarly, political figures might determine that their
opponents running attack ads against them are examples of hateful messaging.
If censorship was allowed on this basis, there would be
no end in sight. And George Mason University law professor
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TODDSWICKI noted, quote, is it is ironic that Wall's saying
there's no First Amendment protection for misinformation?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Is itself misinformation?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
The toilet of history clogged with the wipes of disinformation?
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Wow? Wow? Too much? Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
And they go into the how the Biden administration is
trying to define misinformation mal They use disinformation, misinformation and malinformation, Nah,
three different kinds of the same thing trying to ex
Austas just threw too many words. I guess the last category,
so you know, I call it synonym fatigue. The last
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category was defined by the Biden administration as informed as information,
quote based on fact, but used out of context to mislead,
harm or manipulate. So one cannot even freely say things
that are true. If Joe Biden and Kamala Harris think
they're being presented out of context, are you blanking kidding me?
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I will fight these people until my last breath. And
the claim that only one side is doing that is hilarious.
Oh yeah, how can you do that with a straight face.
Here's a question for you, and I think I know
the answer, and it's terrible to consider. Do they seriously
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want to do what they say they want to do
or are they just pandering to the.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Media.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
I guess the lefty media. I mean, because if they're
seriously trying to seize the First Amendment and pervert it
out of all recognizable form, I mean that is a
serious threat. That's not like Trump is gonna never hold
another election. He's fat and he's eighty. Come on, Andy, please,
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every buddy, every party would say, yeah, we're holding an election,
get out of the White House.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
But this is a serious threat to me. Sure, that's
why we need to be the plungers that unclaw to.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
You know what, I blame myself, folks, I blame myself.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
How about what Elon Musk pulled off with this rocket
Over the weekend, we got to talk about that, among
other things.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Stay here shot.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
The most ambitious SpaceX uncrewed mission yet. Starship blasting off
for its fifth test flight. But this time there's a
big catch. The world's largest rocket sending a ship into orbit.
But this new chapter in space history is all about
what happened back on Earth. The rocket guides down to
the launch pad, where it is literally caught by giant
metal pincers. The program, in partnership with NASA, aims to
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reuse equipment for man missions to the Moon as early
as twenty twenty six and eventually even as far as Mars.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Absolutely amazing. Watch that with my son over the weekend.
So it's the world's largest rocket that Elon launched and
his reusable rocket technology that he invented that has changed everything.
This thing came floating back down, flipped on the burners, landed,
got caught by these like it was like like when
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you pick up a piece of shrimp with your.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Chopsticks.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, it looked like chopsticks grabbing the rocket and holding
it and it just landed and everybody cheered like crazy, and.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
It reattached itself to the launch pad. Yeah, crane thingy.
It was one of the most astounding things I've ever
witnessed in my life and everybody else who witnessed it.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, And so that you can, one you save a
ton of money as you don't have to you know,
recreate that thing and move it and all the different
sort of stuff, so you can have quicker, much cheaper launches.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Do we not have that natural sound?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Everybody going crazy and cheering. That was fun.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, oh yeah, and uh oh well, Hanson and I
were talking about that there's a showbiz aspect to it
because it's a private company, so he has reason to
have everybody get really really excited about you know, his private.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Companies actually can do this sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And it's interesting that new segment said planning to go
to the Moon in a couple of years. Elon's saying
he's planning to send a rocket to Mars within two years.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Now he always exaggerates, but even if he's exaggerating by double,
it's four years. And when we send the rockets to Mars,
that's astounding. But he does stuff on such a faster
pace than NASA ever did. NASA would do a little
thing and then like two years later there'd be another
little thing.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Fail fast and learn faster. Yeah, it's it's really quite extraordinary.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Red brief. I wish I hadn't in front of me
description by an engineer of the mind boggling precision that
was required to do that in the immense forces that
had to be marshaled in exactly the right way to
pull off something that miraculous. And I wish I had
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the training to fully appreciate the sophistication of what they achieved.
But you know, I came away from that and I
think I have a pretty well rounded attitude about Elon
Musk and his qualities and his voibles.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
A genius nut, Yeah, he is a genius nut.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I think he is going to be seen in the
same way as like a Galileo, absolutely absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Yeah. And Galileo was a bit of a kuckla, they say.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
But here's another good one speaking of Elon Musk California
official site, Elon Musk's politics and rejecting SpaceX launches in California.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
They don't want SpaceX doing it.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
State officials actually cited Elon's politics as they rejected SpaceX's
plan to launch more rockets off the central California coast.
So that one was in Texas the other day where
he launched the world's biggest rocket and came back down
when they caught it. He wants to do more testing
in California for a variety of reasons, and the state
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has said no and actually cited his politics for the
reason to.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Not let him do it.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
In so many ways, California is committing suicide.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Elon has filed a suit against them for violating the
First Amendment somehow. It's the California Coastal Commission. Ah, that
all powerful board. Yeah, whatever they do. But I suppose
because they cited his political speech for a reason for
canceling basically a contract that is a free speech issue.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Wow, yeah, go get him Elon. Isn't that crazy though?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
It's disgusting, It's pathetic. California is just pathetic in so
many ways. But they'll elect the same folks over and
over again.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
So jd.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Vance, Trump's running mate goes on the talk shows every Sunday.
He loves doing it, and he had quite a performance yesterday.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
We'll play with some of it, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
He's not being transparent, so check this out.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
He refuses to release his medical records.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I've done it.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Every other presidential camp, every other presidential candidate in modern
era has done it.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
It's interesting. So she went really big on that over
the weekend. Is that gonna be their closing argument? That
Trump is physically slash mentally unfit to be president?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Tell you what, I've seen zero percent of Americans give
a crap about that. Can you imagine that being on
your list of issues that's going to determine your vote?
What did I see as there was something specific you
were concerned about? I think it was, uh, we might
even have the clip, but I think it was what's
her name on Meet the Press, the NBC woman saying
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people should know the cholesterol blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Like really, what you'd think?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You think that the voters out there on their list
of issues, Trump's LDL is high.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
It is to laugh. Oh my goodness. Uh, so there's that.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Hey, Kamala Harris, she seems reasonably fit, she wants the job.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Fine, I don't need to see any medical records. What
are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Well, I definitely think Trump is not the same as
he was in twenty sixteen. He's getting older too. Yeah,
but we know from the whole Biden thing there's really
no such thing as an easy, definitive test of how
your mind is slipping as you get older.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Well, right, there's all the cherry disclosure anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, there's a line you can cross to go past
the line where you can be, you know, committed to
a home or something like that. But nobody thinks he's
in that situation.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
It's well, there might be some objective measures of one
aspect of it or another, but it's got to be
fairly similar to how crazy is crazy?
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Right, Yeah, it.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Would be very and you could find in that you
could find plenty of experts who would say you're not
healthy enough, and plenty it could say you were.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
So he'll find something that will say you are. And
then so what's the point of this meaningless exercise exactly?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So there's that. Oh, oh, we got a text about
Columbus Day. I want to do that first before you
get back into politics. Did you even know as Columbus Day?
I only know because it came up yesterday with my
son's friends who go to public school and have the
day off. He doesn't have the day off because he's
going to private school, and they don't have the day
off because it's Columbus Day, because God help honoring the
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genocidal human trafficker Columbus. In California, they now call it
Indigenous People's Day.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yes, number of places around the country. Judy and I
are going to celebrate as we always do. We launch
three model boats at the lake in a local park
and cry softly while thinking about the heroism of Columbus
and his crew.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
I go to an Indian casine and say, get out
of here. This is mine. Now, wow, we won. That's
ugly it is.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I had actually some more on this whole thing, this
whole dumb thing from Axios. The number of states that
honored is Columbus Day versus Indigenous People Day and the
difference in between and the banks are closed and whatever.
The whole thing is dumb, but it depends where you live.
So we got this text I'm visiting New York listening
to Armstrong and Geddy and laughing at Jack's ongoing issue
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with Columbus Day. As I've said for many years, it's
America's stupidest holiday, federal holiday.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
But now it's gotten stupider as.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
They've replaced a day that shouldn't exist at all with
something else that is historically its presentism. Yeah, sure, yeah,
one hundred percent presentism. Every country in the world was
going around and trying to exploit other resources and grabbing
up people.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Everybody in the world was doing that.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yes, indeed, including the indigenous peoples in many cases.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Here in New York there's a Columbus Day parade today
and they're expecting one million people. So much for me
visiting Central Park today. So they're going to have a
one million person attended parade Donnor Columbus Day, while the
school in my neighborhood refuses to call it Columbus Day
because he was a genocidalmaniac.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
That's pretty interesting.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
It's not like New York is read either, no, no,
but it's so heavily Italian, and that's such a tradition
there it would seem absurd to give it up.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
It's worth pointing out.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I think that while you know, indigenous peoples and cultures
in history are really interesting worth studying, like any other
group of humans on Earth, it's not a coincidence that
the whole not Columbus Day, Indigenous People's Day, is a
rejection of Western civilization. Right in the Neo Marxist traditions.
Columbus was a bad guy. Europeans were are bad guys,
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White people, any sort of modernity, it's all bad.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
It must be overthrown.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yep, that is what's behind it. Yeah, absolutely, Maybe I'll
get into that more later. How different states celebrated because
it's kind of actually funny, but this happened yesterday on
ABC This Week, in which Martha Raddits was the host.
She had jd Vance on. He went on a bunch
of shows. I wish I was as confident as he
is with himself in handling it. He's willing to sit
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down anywhere, talk to anybody about anything because he's so
confident in his own brain power. Yeah, but he has
no concerns whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
And well he's super smart too, so is command of
facts is terrific.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Right, So here's a.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Conversation there having around immigration and things Trump says on
the campaign trail and this and.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
That President Trump was actually in Aurora, Colorado talking to
people on the ground. And what we're hearing, of course, Martha,
is that people are terrified by what has happened with
some of these venice whalen gangs.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
Senator Vance, I'm going to stop you, because I know
exactly what happens.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
I'm going to stop you.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
The incidents were limited to a handful of apartment complexes,
and the mayor said, our dedicated police officers have acted
on those concerns a handful of problems.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Only, Martha, do you hear yourself? Only a handful of
apartment complexes in America we're taken over by Venezuelan gangs.
And Donald Trump is the problem and not Kamala Harris's
open border. Americans are so fed up with what's going on,
and they.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Have every right to be.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
And I really find this exchange, Martha is sort of
interesting because you seem to be more focused with nitpicking
everything that Donald Trump has said, rather than acknowledging that
apartment complexes in the United States of America are being
taken over by violent gangs.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Wow, that's well done.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Nobody watches those shows, but I have a feeling that
clip is going to bounce around quite a bit in
the media. Yeah, the problem is not the open borders,
it's what's Trump, what Trump has said about them.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Holy cow.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I have a feeling having watched that, because I've done
this myself before, where you realize, oops, I made a
mistake or I'm wrong, or my position as good.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
As I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I have a feeling she was thinking that when he
uh came back with the Wait a second, do you
hear yourself? You're saying, only a couple of apartment complexes
we're taking over. Yeah, she was probably thinking, Yeah, that's
a pribaby, that's pretty decent argument.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
That's funny when you put it that way. Yeah. Wow,
that that well, that was beautifully done by j D. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
What was funny about Saturday Night Live? I thought they
were opening skit where it was a family feud between
Harris and Biden and their spouse or whatever, and the
Republicans was Trump and and Don Junior and JD.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Vance.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Millennia wasn't there. She had just had a space where
his wife would be. Yeah, and that was a pretty
good shot anyway, but it was funny. There only joke
clearly about Donald Junior and jd Vance's don't we don't
get allowed to talk. We're not allowed to talk, and
so we'll just defer to Donald. I just that joke
didn't land with me at all because jd Vance is
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out there like crazy, no kidding, and incredibly effectively, to
the point that some would wish he was the candidate. Anyway,
here's another interesting thing. I don't know how many people
notice this. It's a visual. She would have had to
have seen it. But so they are playing family feud.
Trump people on one side, Harris people on the other side.
It's Kamala her husband Walls, and Joe Biden and Dana
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Carvey's Joe Biden, which is so freaking good. Do we
have some of the audio on that, Henson, just to
give an example, but I can fill in the the
visual park oh three, yeah, give me three.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
And bother of ly on the Democrats side is President
Joe Biden.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Per se.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Thank you, Regius. Great to be here on the crew.
Speaker 9 (26:04):
The family food food to do dude. Anyway, and guess what,
and by the way, the show's great.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
I'm being serious right now. Well, thank you very much.
I gotta say you're looking pretty good.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
Yeah, because I'm getting my rest. Number One, I sleep
when I can. Number two, I'm asleep right now.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So he did the thing he did the week before,
where he'd lock up and start the camera. But both
times he did it, they immediately cut away from him. Yes,
I think that was a director's decision. They weren't gonna
tell Dana Carvey, hey, that whole you stare and lock
up is too much. They weren't gonna say that to
the great Dana Carvey because because I don't think you
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can tell Dana Carvey.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
What to do.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I noticed that too, and they respect him too much.
But Lorne Michaels thought, no, we got to cut away
from that. We can't hang on Dana Carvey with his
mouth open staring at the camera, which actually might be
too much mockery of a sitting president in a dangerous world.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
It's a little uncomfortable too, because the ravages of age
will come for us all who make it to old age.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
And I don't mind that so much. I would have him.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
I would have him do When Biden closes his eyes
and looks like he's concentrating, trying to get his brain
to work.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I mean, I'm a free speech guy, and we shouldn't
we shouldn't be covering up a story.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
But as we also should like really.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Hang our hat on. How funny it is that our
current president has lost his mind. Either to announce to
the world, I don't know, but clearly that was a
decision that Saturday Night Live made. They were not going
to let Dana Carvey do the president's staring off into
space thing. Yeah, because they cut away immediately and the
crowd would be laughing because they were seeing it.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yes, but they didn't want to show it to the public.
That's that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Anyway, back to jd vance his point there. He made
Martha right, it's absolutely fantastic, and Trump is winning on
that issue so hard. And again the poll out that
it's almost sixty percent of Americans want all undocumented people deported.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Right, which is an extreme policy. I don't take that literally.
I think it is a message that Americans are trying
to send to especially to the media establishment.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, we have sixty percent of people are saying, I
don't care how extreme it is. I'd say, yes, that's
how upset I am about the open border policy. So
Trump's an incredibly solid ground by exaggerating the threat of
the Venezuelan gangs and everything like that.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
And like JD. Vancid, you know how much of.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
An exaggeration is A couple of apartment complexes got taken
over by a violent Venezuelan gang seems like a pretty
big deal in the United States, in the middle of
the United States. It's not like it was even on
that'd be bad enough. It was if it was on
the Mexican border.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Right well, And it wasn't in some big city where
lawlessness tends to run rampant. It was in a suburb
of Denver. And the video of well armed gangs moving
military style through an apartment complex, knocking indoors and taking
in or killing or whatever they wanted, that's horrifying. I
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think any American could see that. And it almost doesn't
matter where it was, but it's more extreme that it
was in a fairly calm suburb.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
That's horrifying.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
It's just a handful of apartment complexes.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
J D.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
I'm going to stop you. The incidents were limited to
a handful of apartment complexes, and the mayor said, our
dedicated police officers have acted on those.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Concerned Martha, do you hear yourself? Only a handful of
apartment complexes in America were taken over by Venezuelan gangs.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That's really good. And by the way, once again a
fact check on a Republican. They never do that to Democrats. No,
Democrats get to come out and lay out whatever their
spiel is on whatever topic, and they never get fact checked.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
That.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Nobody's ever going to jump in on Tim Walls or
anybody say, just to interrupt you real quickly, there are
states where they allow late term abortion.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
They're never gonna do that.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
No, And you know, I said nice things about Martha
Ratits I think it was last week, but for her
to say it's limited to a handful of apartment complexes,
and JD caught her on that, and you know, frankly
flipped her and pinder rhetorically speaking, wow, rhetorically speaking purely,
she's like.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Eighty years old. It's rhetorical anyway.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And this strong statement, and the mayor said, our dedicated
police officers have acted on those concerns.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Wait a minute, what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Right, So the cops have done something in a handful
of apartment complexes taken over by armed Venezuelan gangs, so
we shouldn't worry about it.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Nice argument, Martha.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, the only thing we should talk about is Trump
is stating it being further than that.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah, he's insensitive. He talked about cat eating. Well, let's
not talk about Trenty Ragua. Let's talk about cat eating.
He lets, they're eating cats. Nobody's eating cats. Oivey. Our
media so terrible, so utterly biased. I know, you know,
I know, I know everybody knows, but it just every day.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Set your mouth because uh, we got three weeks to go,
and it's gonna get crazier and crazier.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
As we get closer to election day.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, on the media being all in for their side,
we got more in the ways to hear. Scientists have
released a detailed map of a fruit fli's brain, and
it's actually very different from a straight fli's brain.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
That's a hard time, he's okay, you know what I
can't it's the nineties called no what Wow?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
You know what we ought to improve? You know what
we ought to do while we're doing inappropriate things?
Speaker 7 (31:53):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Oh, did you hear this? I'm not sure we got
to set this up Okay, it's the Uh, where's my sheet?
I was at ten? That's long.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, well it's funny if you haven't heard it. I
mean it's so do you know how they do the
thing on Saturday? And it's got an interesting sociological point,
but okay, you know how they do the thing on
Saturday Night Live. If you don't watch Saturday Night Live,
there's a there's a Colin jose and Michael Jay, and
Colin Joseph's white and Michael Chase black, and Michael cha
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is always ribbing Colin about being racist, which is not
obviously they're all lefty liberal, not til you have.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
To you know, yeah, wait a minute to say anyway, So.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Every now and then they write jokes for each other,
right and the and they're obligated to read. Yeah, and
so Michael Jay always writes jokes for Colin Jos that
make him sound like a racist. And the interesting thing
to me with this trick is it allows them to
do incredibly inappropriate jokes.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Yes, but get away with it. And here's an example
right here.
Speaker 10 (33:02):
Corner Brothers is producing a new movie in which Superman
is black, and a black Superman actually makes a lot
of sense when you remember that Superman was abandoned by
his parents as a.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Big pare.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
It gets it gets worse?
Speaker 10 (33:20):
Well, I knew you'd like that one.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Another one.
Speaker 10 (33:26):
Warner Brothers is producing a new movie in which Superman
is black. In this version, black Superman scryptonite is honest
Day's word.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
No, who who? Oh my god?
Speaker 10 (33:40):
Before go, I just thought of another punchline for that
black Superman. Superman will be her podcast A Man of
Steel smelled Styes.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
So what I think is interesting about I feel like
you could do a college class on this.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
The fact that everybody laughed.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
At those jokes, everybody in the audience. Yeah, I laughed
at him, You laughed at him. Everybody laughed at him.
You could never do them as a straight up joke.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Just come out and do the joke right.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
But if you portray it is like you have to
go out of your way to say this is something
I'm going to make him say because it makes him
look bad. Then you can make the same joke right
and everybody laughs at what what sort.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Of weird mind trick are we playing on ourselves?
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah? I'm also reminded of Ricky Gervay's screed, which is
so brilliant about he'll say something, you know, he'll give
like a wildly inappropriate punchline, I mean, just totally politically
incorrect or way edgy or whatever, and everybody laughs, and
he points out we're laughing to indicate we agree that's outrageous. Right,
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We're not laughing because we approve of it, right, we're
laughing because we disapprove them.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
But to me, hey, this is just political correctness run
am up that you can't just do those jokes straight up.
Saturday Night Live back in the day would have, like
in the seventies certainly when they started, would have just
done those jokes straight up and everybody had laughed because
it's so outrageous and over the line. Now they have
to do this weird trick. But they still want the
jokes on the show. That's the interesting thing. Yeah, and
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they get it both ways. Yeah, Yeah, very smart. It's
honest day's work.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Some notes on, Hey, I will it take over the
world and kill us all?
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Probably stay June Armstrong and getdy
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Katsey I know he Armstrong and Eddy,
we know that.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
He does not have the ability to do the job.
He is unfit for office. He talks at his rallies
about fictional characters. He constantly is in a state of
grievance about himself. He has no plans for the American people,
and then he just makes things up on a full
time basis.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So that's Kamala Harris from the same tarmac. A little
speech she gave on Friday or Saturday where she started
getting into Trump needs to release his medical records. She
talked about how she released hers and as as a
fifty nine year old woman, she's basically healthy as you'd expect.
But Trump needs to release his medical records and that's
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a scandal and all that sort of stuff. Maybe we
talk about that particular aspect of it more later, but
for instance there, because we're going to talk about free speech,
she said, he references fictional characters. Yeah, she's talking about
when he talks about Hannibal Lecter, which he talks about
a lot which is weird, and he always works it
in somehow. But it's not like he's making up. I mean,
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she's implying that he's like delusional and things that don't exist.
He starts talking.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
About is the senator from Vermont?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Right yeah, right now, right right now? And and that's
what she's implying. And both sides do this all the time.
They say things that are well, they're just they're just
factually not true or designed to be misleading.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Happens all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's in their very ads, the ads where they talk
about Trump promises a blood bath if he loses, and
we all know, well, you know if you listen to
the show talking about the electric car industry, not blood.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
In the streets.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So that is misinformation, which leads us to this whole
free speech issue that has become so interesting. I got
a couple of different examples. This is from The Atlantic,
very highly respected left leaning magazine, which is a website
that they used to print on paper for some reason,
The Atlantic is a website. Does anybody actually get it
a copy of the Atlantic anymore?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Can you get a copy of The Atlantic? Yes, you can,
you can.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You know why that is because people like to have
it sitting on their coffee table because it makes you
look important and smart.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yes, yes, those idiots do, but not me. You still
get the Atlantic I used to get it. I do
because I want to hear what arguments they're making. Huh oh, well,
I like the Atlantic When it's good, it's very very good.
When it's obnoxious, it's completely obnoxious.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
But here's one of the stories from last week, written
by a guy named Charlie Worzel. His headline was, I'm
running out of ways to explain how bad this is.
What's happening in America today is something darker than a
misinformation crisis. Here's a little quote from it. Free speech
was and is an unmitigated disaster. I know it sounds inflammatory,
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but every piece of evidence points to the fact that
we really need aggressive government regulation of speech platforms. The
free market does not work and never will with speech
that is one of the more dangerous people in America.
That fella right there, and people who think like him.
Can you believe? Can you imagine being that delusional? We
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need to empower the government to censor us. That will
help us have a happy life. Well, and the examples
I just gave so I suppose this guy would think, no,
this stuff Kamala Harris said about bloodbath, that's okay, ure,
But stuff Trump saying that is misleading or false is
got to be outlawed like.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
The one sided fact checking. Right here's it.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
For instance, I'm watching the football yesterday, the briefly entertaining
Steelers Raiders game, hearkening back to the rivalry of old
but the Raiders just.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Plots to anyway.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Ah. But there are a bunch of local political commercials,
various congressional races, including oh, by the way, every single
Democratic ad was about abortion. Each one that I saw
was about abortion, and one made crystal clear. And this
is a really tight, interesting race. That longtime friend of
the Armstrong and Getty show, Kevin Kylie, who is a
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really good guy and really good on liberty, that he
believes there should be no abortion even in cases of
rape and incest and child molestation.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
And mabe, I thought, wait.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
A minute, really, I don't think that doesn't sound like Kevin,
and I looked it up. That is utterly false, utterly false.
It's been quote unquote fact checked and is so false.
Even the fact checkers, who tend to be lefties said No,
that's not true, utter falsehood. So do I want the
government to step in and prosecute political speech for being incorrect?
Speaker 5 (04:59):
No, of course not.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
But that's a the desperation that they have. And b
I'll bet the Atlantic doesn't mention that sort of thing
at all.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Right, And again the sub headline on this from this
guy who I don't know how you can be smart
and not understand this running out of excuses, of ways
to explain how bad this is is the headline in
the technology part. The free market doesn't work and never
will when it comes to regulating speech.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
No, regulating, No, we don't want to, sir. We want
to refute it, argue it be better than it, like
always in our history.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
But so him is a smart guy, you know, he
writes for The Atlantic, that's pretty successful journalism career. Does
he believe that the government could get involved in a
fair way?
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Is that what he is?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
That what that crowd believes? Yes, yeah, they're delusional. Intelligence
and wisdom have about the same relationship as height and
playing the violin, None that I can see.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Like Thomas sol says, there are some ideas so ridiculous
or ludicrous only an intellectual could believe them.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Well, I feel like I can argue him out of
his position in like half an hour. And I'm sure
he's smarter than I am. But i'd say, so, whatever
board you're gonna put in place to make this these decisions,
are you okay if Trump wins and then he.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Appoints the board, because that's what's going to happen. You realize.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
That a lack of wisdom that ella fantine is difficult
for me to picture, and I'm not sure how to
argue against it.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Well, I know i'd argue against it. I just don't
know that it would work because.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I can't picture what he is thinking other than being utterly,
like religiously convinced that our side is always right and
when we're wrong, it's just an accident. But even if
the other side is utterly dishonest and evil.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Even if you believe that which is nuts, Yeah, your
side isn't always going to win, So then the other
side's going to get to do this?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Are you okay with that? That's my point.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Maybe he's one of those guys who is so convinced that,
you know, Republicans, if we can only suppress this misinformation
and disinformation.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
What's the difference between those two? By the way, I
don't have to go with both. That's true. People always
say both.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Hm.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Anyway, ah, it doesn't matter degrees of incorrectness, I guess anyway.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Oh, he probably believes to his soul that if we
can expose the evil of the terrible Republicans, they will
never win another election.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
You'd have to believe that, otherwise your plan is not
going to work again.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
The capacity for really intelligent people to utterly lack wisdom
is one of the more amazing things I've learned to
accept as an adult.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
I haven't accepted it yet. I need to work on it.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Well, I need to work on my abs. So you know,
we both got our tasks ahead of us. The appropriately
named James Freeman in the Wall Street Journal wrote a
great opinion piece recently about Kamala Harris's long history of
hostility to free expression, and he quotes Bobby Suave from
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Reason dot Com, who was writing about the fact that
Tim Watz keeps repeating his false claim that the US
Constitution's First Amendment does not protect misinformation or hate speech.
Suave writs Walls defended his position by glibly asserting that
it is constitutionally impromissible to yell fire and a crowded theater.
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And we went over this last week, I guess or
the week before. It comes from a nineteen nineteen case
Shank vers the United States, which was one of the
worst Supreme Court decisions of all time, utterly disregards the
First Amendment. It was overturned, disavowed, and the idea that
Oliver Wendell Holmes was trying to express, who is that?
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You know, if it seems unwise or somebody might get hurt, we.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Can limit free speech, we can prohibit it.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
And again that that doctrine has been completely flushed down
the toilet of history, partly because of the toilet of history. Yes, yes,
you know toh. Anyway, today we recognize the right to
criticize US military policy in a post foreign wars are
an essential component of the First Amendment, and the Supreme
Court agreed. Shank was overturned da da da as, just
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as Samuel Alito when a twenty seventeen blockbuster observed that quote,
the proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that
we protect the freedom to express the thought we hate
It could not be more simple. Hate speech is protected
by the First Amendment, and it shouldn't be surprising. If
hate speech constituted unprotected speech, it would create all sorts
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of problems. What counts as hateful speech is partly suggest subjective.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, exactly, That's that's problem number one with the term
hate speech at all.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Who gets to decide what's hate speech?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Religious people, for instance, might find blastphemy to be hateful,
but it's sufficiently obvious that the federal government cannot criminalize
criticism of religion. Similarly, political figures might determine that their
opponents running attack ads against them are examples of hateful messaging.
If censorship was allowed on this basis, there would be
no end in sight. And George Mason University law professor
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TODDSWICKI noted, quote, is it is ironic that Wall's saying
there's no First Amendment protection for misinformation?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Is itself misinformation?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
The toilet of history clogged with the wipes of disinformation?
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Wow? Wow? Too much? Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
And they go into the how the Biden administration is
trying to define misinformation mal They use disinformation, misinformation and malinformation, Nah,
three different kinds of the same thing trying to ex
Austas just threw too many words. I guess the last category,
so you know, I call it synonym fatigue. The last
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category was defined by the Biden administration as informed as information,
quote based on fact, but used out of context to mislead,
harm or manipulate. So one cannot even freely say things
that are true. If Joe Biden and Kamala Harris think
they're being presented out of context, are you blanking kidding me?
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I will fight these people until my last breath. And
the claim that only one side is doing that is hilarious.
Oh yeah, how can you do that with a straight face.
Here's a question for you, and I think I know
the answer, and it's terrible to consider. Do they seriously
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want to do what they say they want to do
or are they just pandering to the.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Media.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
I guess the lefty media. I mean, because if they're
seriously trying to seize the First Amendment and pervert it
out of all recognizable form, I mean that is a
serious threat. That's not like Trump is gonna never hold
another election. He's fat and he's eighty. Come on, Andy, please,
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every buddy, every party would say, yeah, we're holding an election,
get out of the White House.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
But this is a serious threat to me. Sure, that's
why we need to be the plungers that unclaw to.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
You know what, I blame myself, folks, I blame myself.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
How about what Elon Musk pulled off with this rocket
Over the weekend, we got to talk about that, among
other things.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Stay here shot.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
The most ambitious SpaceX uncrewed mission yet. Starship blasting off
for its fifth test flight. But this time there's a
big catch. The world's largest rocket sending a ship into orbit.
But this new chapter in space history is all about
what happened back on Earth. The rocket guides down to
the launch pad, where it is literally caught by giant
metal pincers. The program, in partnership with NASA, aims to
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reuse equipment for man missions to the Moon as early
as twenty twenty six and eventually even as far as Mars.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Absolutely amazing. Watch that with my son over the weekend.
So it's the world's largest rocket that Elon launched and
his reusable rocket technology that he invented that has changed everything.
This thing came floating back down, flipped on the burners, landed,
got caught by these like it was like like when
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you pick up a piece of shrimp with your.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Chopsticks.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, it looked like chopsticks grabbing the rocket and holding
it and it just landed and everybody cheered like crazy, and.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
It reattached itself to the launch pad. Yeah, crane thingy.
It was one of the most astounding things I've ever
witnessed in my life and everybody else who witnessed it.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, And so that you can, one you save a
ton of money as you don't have to you know,
recreate that thing and move it and all the different
sort of stuff, so you can have quicker, much cheaper launches.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Do we not have that natural sound?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Everybody going crazy and cheering. That was fun.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, oh yeah, and uh oh well, Hanson and I
were talking about that there's a showbiz aspect to it
because it's a private company, so he has reason to
have everybody get really really excited about you know, his private.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Companies actually can do this sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And it's interesting that new segment said planning to go
to the Moon in a couple of years. Elon's saying
he's planning to send a rocket to Mars within two years.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Now he always exaggerates, but even if he's exaggerating by double,
it's four years. And when we send the rockets to Mars,
that's astounding. But he does stuff on such a faster
pace than NASA ever did. NASA would do a little
thing and then like two years later there'd be another
little thing.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Fail fast and learn faster. Yeah, it's it's really quite extraordinary.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Red brief. I wish I hadn't in front of me
description by an engineer of the mind boggling precision that
was required to do that in the immense forces that
had to be marshaled in exactly the right way to
pull off something that miraculous. And I wish I had
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the training to fully appreciate the sophistication of what they achieved.
But you know, I came away from that and I
think I have a pretty well rounded attitude about Elon
Musk and his qualities and his voibles.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
A genius nut, Yeah, he is a genius nut.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I think he is going to be seen in the
same way as like a Galileo, absolutely absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Yeah. And Galileo was a bit of a kuckla, they say.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
But here's another good one speaking of Elon Musk California
official site, Elon Musk's politics and rejecting SpaceX launches in California.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
They don't want SpaceX doing it.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
State officials actually cited Elon's politics as they rejected SpaceX's
plan to launch more rockets off the central California coast.
So that one was in Texas the other day where
he launched the world's biggest rocket and came back down
when they caught it. He wants to do more testing
in California for a variety of reasons, and the state
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has said no and actually cited his politics for the
reason to.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Not let him do it.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
In so many ways, California is committing suicide.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Elon has filed a suit against them for violating the
First Amendment somehow. It's the California Coastal Commission. Ah, that
all powerful board. Yeah, whatever they do. But I suppose
because they cited his political speech for a reason for
canceling basically a contract that is a free speech issue.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Wow, yeah, go get him Elon. Isn't that crazy though?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
It's disgusting, It's pathetic. California is just pathetic in so
many ways. But they'll elect the same folks over and
over again.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
So jd.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Vance, Trump's running mate goes on the talk shows every Sunday.
He loves doing it, and he had quite a performance yesterday.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
We'll play with some of it, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
He's not being transparent, so check this out.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
He refuses to release his medical records.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I've done it.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Every other presidential camp, every other presidential candidate in modern
era has done it.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
It's interesting. So she went really big on that over
the weekend. Is that gonna be their closing argument? That
Trump is physically slash mentally unfit to be president?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Tell you what, I've seen zero percent of Americans give
a crap about that. Can you imagine that being on
your list of issues that's going to determine your vote?
What did I see as there was something specific you
were concerned about? I think it was, uh, we might
even have the clip, but I think it was what's
her name on Meet the Press, the NBC woman saying
(18:11):
people should know the cholesterol blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Like really, what you'd think?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You think that the voters out there on their list
of issues, Trump's LDL is high.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
It is to laugh. Oh my goodness. Uh, so there's that.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Hey, Kamala Harris, she seems reasonably fit, she wants the job.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Fine, I don't need to see any medical records. What
are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Well, I definitely think Trump is not the same as
he was in twenty sixteen. He's getting older too. Yeah,
but we know from the whole Biden thing there's really
no such thing as an easy, definitive test of how
your mind is slipping as you get older.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Well, right, there's all the cherry disclosure anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, there's a line you can cross to go past
the line where you can be, you know, committed to
a home or something like that. But nobody thinks he's
in that situation.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
It's well, there might be some objective measures of one
aspect of it or another, but it's got to be
fairly similar to how crazy is crazy?
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Right, Yeah, it.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Would be very and you could find in that you
could find plenty of experts who would say you're not
healthy enough, and plenty it could say you were.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
So he'll find something that will say you are. And
then so what's the point of this meaningless exercise exactly?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So there's that. Oh, oh, we got a text about
Columbus Day. I want to do that first before you
get back into politics. Did you even know as Columbus Day?
I only know because it came up yesterday with my
son's friends who go to public school and have the
day off. He doesn't have the day off because he's
going to private school, and they don't have the day
off because it's Columbus Day, because God help honoring the
(19:47):
genocidal human trafficker Columbus. In California, they now call it
Indigenous People's Day.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yes, number of places around the country. Judy and I
are going to celebrate as we always do. We launch
three model boats at the lake in a local park
and cry softly while thinking about the heroism of Columbus
and his crew.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
I go to an Indian casine and say, get out
of here. This is mine. Now, wow, we won. That's
ugly it is.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I had actually some more on this whole thing, this
whole dumb thing from Axios. The number of states that
honored is Columbus Day versus Indigenous People Day and the
difference in between and the banks are closed and whatever.
The whole thing is dumb, but it depends where you live.
So we got this text I'm visiting New York listening
to Armstrong and Geddy and laughing at Jack's ongoing issue
(20:40):
with Columbus Day. As I've said for many years, it's
America's stupidest holiday, federal holiday.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
But now it's gotten stupider as.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
They've replaced a day that shouldn't exist at all with
something else that is historically its presentism. Yeah, sure, yeah,
one hundred percent presentism. Every country in the world was
going around and trying to exploit other resources and grabbing
up people.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Everybody in the world was doing that.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yes, indeed, including the indigenous peoples in many cases.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Here in New York there's a Columbus Day parade today
and they're expecting one million people. So much for me
visiting Central Park today. So they're going to have a
one million person attended parade Donnor Columbus Day, while the
school in my neighborhood refuses to call it Columbus Day
because he was a genocidalmaniac.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
That's pretty interesting.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
It's not like New York is read either, no, no,
but it's so heavily Italian, and that's such a tradition
there it would seem absurd to give it up.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
It's worth pointing out.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I think that while you know, indigenous peoples and cultures
in history are really interesting worth studying, like any other
group of humans on Earth, it's not a coincidence that
the whole not Columbus Day, Indigenous People's Day, is a
rejection of Western civilization. Right in the Neo Marxist traditions.
Columbus was a bad guy. Europeans were are bad guys,
(22:03):
White people, any sort of modernity, it's all bad.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
It must be overthrown.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yep, that is what's behind it. Yeah, absolutely, Maybe I'll
get into that more later. How different states celebrated because
it's kind of actually funny, but this happened yesterday on
ABC This Week, in which Martha Raddits was the host.
She had jd Vance on. He went on a bunch
of shows. I wish I was as confident as he
is with himself in handling it. He's willing to sit
(22:30):
down anywhere, talk to anybody about anything because he's so
confident in his own brain power. Yeah, but he has
no concerns whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
And well he's super smart too, so is command of
facts is terrific.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Right, So here's a.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Conversation there having around immigration and things Trump says on
the campaign trail and this and.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
That President Trump was actually in Aurora, Colorado talking to
people on the ground. And what we're hearing, of course, Martha,
is that people are terrified by what has happened with
some of these venice whalen gangs.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
Senator Vance, I'm going to stop you, because I know
exactly what happens.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
I'm going to stop you.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
The incidents were limited to a handful of apartment complexes,
and the mayor said, our dedicated police officers have acted
on those concerns a handful of problems.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Only, Martha, do you hear yourself? Only a handful of
apartment complexes in America we're taken over by Venezuelan gangs.
And Donald Trump is the problem and not Kamala Harris's
open border. Americans are so fed up with what's going on,
and they.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Have every right to be.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
And I really find this exchange, Martha is sort of
interesting because you seem to be more focused with nitpicking
everything that Donald Trump has said, rather than acknowledging that
apartment complexes in the United States of America are being
taken over by violent gangs.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Wow, that's well done.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Nobody watches those shows, but I have a feeling that
clip is going to bounce around quite a bit in
the media. Yeah, the problem is not the open borders,
it's what's Trump, what Trump has said about them.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Holy cow.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I have a feeling having watched that, because I've done
this myself before, where you realize, oops, I made a
mistake or I'm wrong, or my position as good.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
As I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I have a feeling she was thinking that when he
uh came back with the Wait a second, do you
hear yourself? You're saying, only a couple of apartment complexes
we're taking over. Yeah, she was probably thinking, Yeah, that's
a pribaby, that's pretty decent argument.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
That's funny when you put it that way. Yeah. Wow,
that that well, that was beautifully done by j D. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
What was funny about Saturday Night Live? I thought they
were opening skit where it was a family feud between
Harris and Biden and their spouse or whatever, and the
Republicans was Trump and and Don Junior and JD.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Vance.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Millennia wasn't there. She had just had a space where
his wife would be. Yeah, and that was a pretty
good shot anyway, but it was funny. There only joke
clearly about Donald Junior and jd Vance's don't we don't
get allowed to talk. We're not allowed to talk, and
so we'll just defer to Donald. I just that joke
didn't land with me at all because jd Vance is
(25:13):
out there like crazy, no kidding, and incredibly effectively, to
the point that some would wish he was the candidate. Anyway,
here's another interesting thing. I don't know how many people
notice this. It's a visual. She would have had to
have seen it. But so they are playing family feud.
Trump people on one side, Harris people on the other side.
It's Kamala her husband Walls, and Joe Biden and Dana
(25:36):
Carvey's Joe Biden, which is so freaking good. Do we
have some of the audio on that, Henson, just to
give an example, but I can fill in the the
visual park oh three, yeah, give me three.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
And bother of ly on the Democrats side is President
Joe Biden.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Per se.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Thank you, Regius. Great to be here on the crew.
Speaker 9 (26:04):
The family food food to do dude. Anyway, and guess what,
and by the way, the show's great.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
I'm being serious right now. Well, thank you very much.
I gotta say you're looking pretty good.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
Yeah, because I'm getting my rest. Number One, I sleep
when I can. Number two, I'm asleep right now.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So he did the thing he did the week before,
where he'd lock up and start the camera. But both
times he did it, they immediately cut away from him. Yes,
I think that was a director's decision. They weren't gonna
tell Dana Carvey, hey, that whole you stare and lock
up is too much. They weren't gonna say that to
the great Dana Carvey because because I don't think you
(26:45):
can tell Dana Carvey.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
What to do.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I noticed that too, and they respect him too much.
But Lorne Michaels thought, no, we got to cut away
from that. We can't hang on Dana Carvey with his
mouth open staring at the camera, which actually might be
too much mockery of a sitting president in a dangerous world.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
It's a little uncomfortable too, because the ravages of age
will come for us all who make it to old age.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
And I don't mind that so much. I would have him.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
I would have him do When Biden closes his eyes
and looks like he's concentrating, trying to get his brain
to work.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I mean, I'm a free speech guy, and we shouldn't
we shouldn't be covering up a story.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
But as we also should like really.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Hang our hat on. How funny it is that our
current president has lost his mind. Either to announce to
the world, I don't know, but clearly that was a
decision that Saturday Night Live made. They were not going
to let Dana Carvey do the president's staring off into
space thing. Yeah, because they cut away immediately and the
crowd would be laughing because they were seeing it.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yes, but they didn't want to show it to the public.
That's that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Anyway, back to jd vance his point there. He made
Martha right, it's absolutely fantastic, and Trump is winning on
that issue so hard. And again the poll out that
it's almost sixty percent of Americans want all undocumented people deported.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Right, which is an extreme policy. I don't take that literally.
I think it is a message that Americans are trying
to send to especially to the media establishment.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, we have sixty percent of people are saying, I
don't care how extreme it is. I'd say, yes, that's
how upset I am about the open border policy. So
Trump's an incredibly solid ground by exaggerating the threat of
the Venezuelan gangs and everything like that.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
And like JD. Vancid, you know how much of.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
An exaggeration is A couple of apartment complexes got taken
over by a violent Venezuelan gang seems like a pretty
big deal in the United States, in the middle of
the United States. It's not like it was even on
that'd be bad enough. It was if it was on
the Mexican border.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Right well, And it wasn't in some big city where
lawlessness tends to run rampant. It was in a suburb
of Denver. And the video of well armed gangs moving
military style through an apartment complex, knocking indoors and taking
in or killing or whatever they wanted, that's horrifying. I
(29:17):
think any American could see that. And it almost doesn't
matter where it was, but it's more extreme that it
was in a fairly calm suburb.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
That's horrifying.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
It's just a handful of apartment complexes.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
J D.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
I'm going to stop you. The incidents were limited to
a handful of apartment complexes, and the mayor said, our
dedicated police officers have acted on those.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Concerned Martha, do you hear yourself? Only a handful of
apartment complexes in America were taken over by Venezuelan gangs.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That's really good. And by the way, once again a
fact check on a Republican. They never do that to Democrats. No,
Democrats get to come out and lay out whatever their
spiel is on whatever topic, and they never get fact checked.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
That.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Nobody's ever going to jump in on Tim Walls or
anybody say, just to interrupt you real quickly, there are
states where they allow late term abortion.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
They're never gonna do that.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
No, And you know, I said nice things about Martha
Ratits I think it was last week, but for her
to say it's limited to a handful of apartment complexes,
and JD caught her on that, and you know, frankly
flipped her and pinder rhetorically speaking, wow, rhetorically speaking purely,
she's like.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Eighty years old. It's rhetorical anyway.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And this strong statement, and the mayor said, our dedicated
police officers have acted on those concerns.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Wait a minute, what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Right, So the cops have done something in a handful
of apartment complexes taken over by armed Venezuelan gangs, so
we shouldn't worry about it.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Nice argument, Martha.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, the only thing we should talk about is Trump
is stating it being further than that.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah, he's insensitive. He talked about cat eating. Well, let's
not talk about Trenty Ragua. Let's talk about cat eating.
He lets, they're eating cats. Nobody's eating cats. Oivey. Our
media so terrible, so utterly biased. I know, you know,
I know, I know everybody knows, but it just every day.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Set your mouth because uh, we got three weeks to go,
and it's gonna get crazier and crazier.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
As we get closer to election day.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, on the media being all in for their side,
we got more in the ways to hear. Scientists have
released a detailed map of a fruit fli's brain, and
it's actually very different from a straight fli's brain.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
That's a hard time, he's okay, you know what I
can't it's the nineties called no what Wow?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
You know what we ought to improve? You know what
we ought to do while we're doing inappropriate things?
Speaker 7 (31:53):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Oh, did you hear this? I'm not sure we got
to set this up Okay, it's the Uh, where's my sheet?
I was at ten? That's long.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, well it's funny if you haven't heard it. I
mean it's so do you know how they do the
thing on Saturday? And it's got an interesting sociological point,
but okay, you know how they do the thing on
Saturday Night Live. If you don't watch Saturday Night Live,
there's a there's a Colin jose and Michael Jay, and
Colin Joseph's white and Michael Chase black, and Michael cha
(32:25):
is always ribbing Colin about being racist, which is not
obviously they're all lefty liberal, not til you have.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
To you know, yeah, wait a minute to say anyway, So.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Every now and then they write jokes for each other,
right and the and they're obligated to read. Yeah, and
so Michael Jay always writes jokes for Colin Jos that
make him sound like a racist. And the interesting thing
to me with this trick is it allows them to
do incredibly inappropriate jokes.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Yes, but get away with it. And here's an example
right here.
Speaker 10 (33:02):
Corner Brothers is producing a new movie in which Superman
is black, and a black Superman actually makes a lot
of sense when you remember that Superman was abandoned by
his parents as a.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Big pare.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
It gets it gets worse?
Speaker 10 (33:20):
Well, I knew you'd like that one.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Another one.
Speaker 10 (33:26):
Warner Brothers is producing a new movie in which Superman
is black. In this version, black Superman scryptonite is honest
Day's word.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
No, who who? Oh my god?
Speaker 10 (33:40):
Before go, I just thought of another punchline for that
black Superman. Superman will be her podcast A Man of
Steel smelled Styes.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
So what I think is interesting about I feel like
you could do a college class on this.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
The fact that everybody laughed.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
At those jokes, everybody in the audience. Yeah, I laughed
at him, You laughed at him. Everybody laughed at him.
You could never do them as a straight up joke.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Just come out and do the joke right.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
But if you portray it is like you have to
go out of your way to say this is something
I'm going to make him say because it makes him
look bad. Then you can make the same joke right
and everybody laughs at what what sort.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Of weird mind trick are we playing on ourselves?
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah? I'm also reminded of Ricky Gervay's screed, which is
so brilliant about he'll say something, you know, he'll give
like a wildly inappropriate punchline, I mean, just totally politically
incorrect or way edgy or whatever, and everybody laughs, and
he points out we're laughing to indicate we agree that's outrageous. Right,
(34:55):
We're not laughing because we approve of it, right, we're
laughing because we disapprove them.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
But to me, hey, this is just political correctness run
am up that you can't just do those jokes straight up.
Saturday Night Live back in the day would have, like
in the seventies certainly when they started, would have just
done those jokes straight up and everybody had laughed because
it's so outrageous and over the line. Now they have
to do this weird trick. But they still want the
jokes on the show. That's the interesting thing. Yeah, and
(35:20):
they get it both ways. Yeah, Yeah, very smart. It's
honest day's work.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Some notes on, Hey, I will it take over the
world and kill us all?
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Probably stay June Armstrong and getdy
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