November 4, 2024 • 10 mins
On the Monday, November 4 2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty One More Thing Podcast...
- Katie is tasked with analyzing Joe's dream...
- Revisiting Bill Clinton's perspective on the peace deal he brokered with Hamas.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Just because you're mad doesn't mean you're right. It's one
more thing. I can't remember where we heard that the
first time. It was years ago, but it's it's absolutely great,
you know, idea to have in your holster. Just because
somebody comes on strong and is yelling and indigmant indignant,
(00:20):
that's no.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Proof that they're right. Right.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
People tend to back off and say, in fact, there
are some social circles that whoever yells the loudest wins
no matter what, because they got their righteous anger going or.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Gets the most upset. Just because you're offended doesn't mean
you're right either.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well they're both right, Michael, And I'm
offended that you thought differently right, and I'm right and
I'm but not because i'm mad, but I am mad.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
But that's no proof of anything.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Ow dare you correct me?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
You?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Anyway?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Where were we?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Oh? Get into that in a minute, Katie. You need
to analyze this dream as a woman, I had a.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Dream analysis Here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, and it was it was so unintentionally funny. What
was weird about this stream is my wife and I
we were bickering bitterly, which we really almost never do
we're best friends and we get along great. We're so lucky,
but I mean we argue sometimes with nothing. So in
the stream we get into this bitter argument in the
car and I opened the car door while it's moving.
(01:19):
I say, stopped the car. I'm getting out. I'm just
getting out. And I dropped an F.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Bomb on her.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
WHOA wow, I said, I said, I'm walking back to
my car.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It's across town. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm gone. I get out of the car, slam the door,
start walking. She drives off again. This is why would
I have the stream? We get along great. Then I'm
walking all over town and you know how dreams become
surreal and weird in the set exchange or whatever. And
it was kind of entertaining. But at one point I
realized during this dream that the shopping center where I
(01:54):
left my car, I can't remember any of the stores
that are there, and I really have to call my
wife to ask her where my car is.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Okay, there it is. You can't live without her? Uh
is that it?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You just some sort of weird. My brain was trying
to run me through a scenario. I was so pissed off.
I didn't want to call her and give her the satisfaction.
But I was going to walk around town until I
starved to death unless I said, hey, honey, you know
that shopping center we met at?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
What a stores are there?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Because I was trying to program my Apple maps so
I could walk there, walk to my car because I
didn't remember where i'd left my.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Car and I had asked my wife, Yeah, you need her,
You're doom you don't have her. It's always interesting in
dreams where you you don't know the lead up to
whatever emotion you're in, like the fight you're in, but
you don't know what it was, right, yeah, right, the
(02:52):
the you know, the you know I'm being fired or what,
but it doesn't include what I did. You know? Just
that's always interesting.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Did you did you wake up from that instantly knowing, okay,
that was a dream, or did you have one of
those moments like wait a minute, to that actually happened?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Hold on? You know what?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
And I know exactly what you're talking about, because sometimes
you wake up with the brain chemicals going from that
set of emotions. Yeah, and you got to remind yourself,
Oh that's right, I'm not angry at my spouse. I
am not angry at my spouse. No, I didn't in
this case. I woke up thinking, boy, that was weird.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I remember having one here at work one time, and
I told her about it. I woke up, I had
a dream I was in love with somebody at work,
and like madly in love, you know, full on, full
bore in love. And I woke up and still had
all those feelings. And it was just like, and I'd
never had any feelings for this person at all, zero
So I mean, but I was just fully in love
with this person. I told them later, I said, I
(03:44):
had a dream where I was madly in love with you,
and I'm trying to shake it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I feel absolutely thought you were coming on to her.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
No, I don't think so. But it was so weird.
Ittook it took days to get rid of. Really weird.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But so this would be a decent screenplay for like
a light comedy. I see ice Cube in it. I've
optioned iced tea, ice Cube and Vanilla iceed to start anybody.
So I'm wandering around town trying to figure out where
my car is, and I keep running into various people
of various walks of life and getting into weird conversations
and stuff. But I've got too much pride to call
(04:20):
my wife. So anyway, that is good like light comedy.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Actually, that is a pretty good idea. And I get into.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Various hygiens, you know whatever, I end up chained up
in a basement. I don't know, it's just I'm amusing.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Anyway, in one of those jarring transitions that have endeared
us to dozens, Uh, this is really really interesting, but
it's a little audio heavy for the radio show, and
we didn't didn't have time quite to get into it,
which is unfortunately. But a couple of speeches Bill Clinton
has given lately about Hamas and Israel and that sort
(04:55):
of thing, some of which you've probably heard, one of
which I had never heard before.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And this is recent.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
He's done this fairly recently, certainly in the last the
one is older than the other, but it's it's in
the last ten years. Oh, I think the one is
pretty recent. The second one we're going to play, but
it doesn't really matter because it's absolutely material to a
lot of the screaming going on on college campuses right now,
(05:21):
which is continued, for what it's worth, in the protests
and the taking over of lecture halls or whatever. The
blatant anti Semitism it's ripped from today's culture. The whole
Israel is settler colonialists, and the nice folks in Hamas
are innocent, lovely brown people who deserve all of our sympathy.
Blah blah blah. We'll start Michael with twenty four.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Depends on whether you care what happens to the Palestinians
as opposed to the Hamas government and the people with
guided missiles. Yes they were, Yes they were, now what it?
Yes they were, and Hamas is really small. When they
decide to rock at Israel, they insinuate themselves in the hospitals,
(06:06):
in the schools, in the highly populous areas.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And they are smart.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
So they try so that wait wait, wait, so they
try to put the Israelis in a position of either
not defending themselves or killing innocence.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
They're good at it, They're smart.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
They've been doing this a long time.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Now he gets into the realities of his effort to
broker a deal between Yaser Era Fat and was it
monocha Vegan.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And that point or was it before we move on
for this NPR completely disagrees with what he.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Just said, there's no disagreeing with it.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It's not completely disagrees with that. That is not true.
That is a that has been I heard them say
on that has been debunked.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Okay, that's ridiculous. Way ideology can blind people. But anyway,
so Clinton famously had the Camp Day the Cords. Is
that right that brokeered a great deal between the Palestinians
and the Israelis back in the nineties, And that's what
he's talking about here.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And the only time the author Arafat didn't tell me
the truth was and he promised me he was going
to accept the peace deal that we had worked out,
which would have given the Palestinians of state on ninety
six percent of the West Bank and four percent of Israel,
and they got to choose where the four percent of
(07:29):
Israel was, so they would have the effect of the
same land of all the West Bank. They'd have a
capital in East Jerusalem, they would have the I can
hardly talk about this, and they would have equal access
(07:52):
all day every day to the security towers that Israel
maintained all through the West Bank for the Golden House.
All this was offered, including I will say it again
a capital in East Jerusalem and two of the four
quadrants of the Old City of Jerusalem confirmed by the
(08:16):
Israeli Prime Minister Hudbarok and his cabin And they said no.
And I think part of it is that Hamas did
not care about a homeland for the Palacinians. They wanted
(08:38):
to kill Israelis and make Israel uninhabitable. Well, I got
news formed. They were there first, before there was their
faith existed. They were there in the time of King
David and the southernmost tribes Adjide in Samaria.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
That also not agreed upon by NPR. Yeah, and other
people on the left.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, I've gotten to the point that trying to reason
with the nprs of the world is useless, whether they
are so ideological they can no longer reason, or if
they are being deliberately dishonest about a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Right could have had a Palestinian state, which Tom Friedman
still arguing about to But Yaser turned it down when
it was Clinton, and Ahud Barack, and Yaser Erifat turned
it down when it was Bagan and Carter, and but
nobody cares at.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
The very very very end of the whole negotiation, when
it was time to sign the accords, he said, no,
I changed my mind, and they didn't say it out loud.
But it's about killing Jews. It's about the humiliation of Islam.
That is the Jews occupying that part of the world.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
They can't have.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
They can't have non Muslims controlling that part of the world.
That's the story and will be the story for a thousand,
thousand years.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Well, we're gonna have a new president elected this week
at the taping of this podcast, and I'm not exactly
sure which either candidate is going to do in terms
of support for UH these ideas, but we we'll see. Well,
I guess that's it.
Just because you're mad doesn't mean you're right. It's one
more thing. I can't remember where we heard that the
first time. It was years ago, but it's it's absolutely great,
you know, idea to have in your holster. Just because
somebody comes on strong and is yelling and indigmant indignant,
(00:20):
that's no.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Proof that they're right. Right.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
People tend to back off and say, in fact, there
are some social circles that whoever yells the loudest wins
no matter what, because they got their righteous anger going or.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Gets the most upset. Just because you're offended doesn't mean
you're right either.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well they're both right, Michael, And I'm
offended that you thought differently right, and I'm right and
I'm but not because i'm mad, but I am mad.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
But that's no proof of anything.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Ow dare you correct me?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
You?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Anyway?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Where were we?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Oh? Get into that in a minute, Katie. You need
to analyze this dream as a woman, I had a.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Dream analysis Here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, and it was it was so unintentionally funny. What
was weird about this stream is my wife and I
we were bickering bitterly, which we really almost never do
we're best friends and we get along great. We're so lucky,
but I mean we argue sometimes with nothing. So in
the stream we get into this bitter argument in the
car and I opened the car door while it's moving.
(01:19):
I say, stopped the car. I'm getting out. I'm just
getting out. And I dropped an F.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Bomb on her.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
WHOA wow, I said, I said, I'm walking back to
my car.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It's across town. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm gone. I get out of the car, slam the door,
start walking. She drives off again. This is why would
I have the stream? We get along great. Then I'm
walking all over town and you know how dreams become
surreal and weird in the set exchange or whatever. And
it was kind of entertaining. But at one point I
realized during this dream that the shopping center where I
(01:54):
left my car, I can't remember any of the stores
that are there, and I really have to call my
wife to ask her where my car is.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Okay, there it is. You can't live without her? Uh
is that it?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You just some sort of weird. My brain was trying
to run me through a scenario. I was so pissed off.
I didn't want to call her and give her the satisfaction.
But I was going to walk around town until I
starved to death unless I said, hey, honey, you know
that shopping center we met at?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
What a stores are there?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Because I was trying to program my Apple maps so
I could walk there, walk to my car because I
didn't remember where i'd left my.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Car and I had asked my wife, Yeah, you need her,
You're doom you don't have her. It's always interesting in
dreams where you you don't know the lead up to
whatever emotion you're in, like the fight you're in, but
you don't know what it was, right, yeah, right, the
(02:52):
the you know, the you know I'm being fired or what,
but it doesn't include what I did. You know? Just
that's always interesting.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Did you did you wake up from that instantly knowing, okay,
that was a dream, or did you have one of
those moments like wait a minute, to that actually happened?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Hold on? You know what?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
And I know exactly what you're talking about, because sometimes
you wake up with the brain chemicals going from that
set of emotions. Yeah, and you got to remind yourself,
Oh that's right, I'm not angry at my spouse. I
am not angry at my spouse. No, I didn't in
this case. I woke up thinking, boy, that was weird.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I remember having one here at work one time, and
I told her about it. I woke up, I had
a dream I was in love with somebody at work,
and like madly in love, you know, full on, full
bore in love. And I woke up and still had
all those feelings. And it was just like, and I'd
never had any feelings for this person at all, zero
So I mean, but I was just fully in love
with this person. I told them later, I said, I
(03:44):
had a dream where I was madly in love with you,
and I'm trying to shake it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I feel absolutely thought you were coming on to her.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
No, I don't think so. But it was so weird.
Ittook it took days to get rid of. Really weird.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But so this would be a decent screenplay for like
a light comedy. I see ice Cube in it. I've
optioned iced tea, ice Cube and Vanilla iceed to start anybody.
So I'm wandering around town trying to figure out where
my car is, and I keep running into various people
of various walks of life and getting into weird conversations
and stuff. But I've got too much pride to call
(04:20):
my wife. So anyway, that is good like light comedy.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Actually, that is a pretty good idea. And I get into.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Various hygiens, you know whatever, I end up chained up
in a basement. I don't know, it's just I'm amusing.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Anyway, in one of those jarring transitions that have endeared
us to dozens, Uh, this is really really interesting, but
it's a little audio heavy for the radio show, and
we didn't didn't have time quite to get into it,
which is unfortunately. But a couple of speeches Bill Clinton
has given lately about Hamas and Israel and that sort
(04:55):
of thing, some of which you've probably heard, one of
which I had never heard before.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And this is recent.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
He's done this fairly recently, certainly in the last the
one is older than the other, but it's it's in
the last ten years. Oh, I think the one is
pretty recent. The second one we're going to play, but
it doesn't really matter because it's absolutely material to a
lot of the screaming going on on college campuses right now,
(05:21):
which is continued, for what it's worth, in the protests
and the taking over of lecture halls or whatever. The
blatant anti Semitism it's ripped from today's culture. The whole
Israel is settler colonialists, and the nice folks in Hamas
are innocent, lovely brown people who deserve all of our sympathy.
Blah blah blah. We'll start Michael with twenty four.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Depends on whether you care what happens to the Palestinians
as opposed to the Hamas government and the people with
guided missiles. Yes they were, Yes they were, now what it?
Yes they were, and Hamas is really small. When they
decide to rock at Israel, they insinuate themselves in the hospitals,
(06:06):
in the schools, in the highly populous areas.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And they are smart.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
So they try so that wait wait, wait, so they
try to put the Israelis in a position of either
not defending themselves or killing innocence.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
They're good at it, They're smart.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
They've been doing this a long time.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Now he gets into the realities of his effort to
broker a deal between Yaser Era Fat and was it
monocha Vegan.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And that point or was it before we move on
for this NPR completely disagrees with what he.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Just said, there's no disagreeing with it.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It's not completely disagrees with that. That is not true.
That is a that has been I heard them say
on that has been debunked.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Okay, that's ridiculous. Way ideology can blind people. But anyway,
so Clinton famously had the Camp Day the Cords. Is
that right that brokeered a great deal between the Palestinians
and the Israelis back in the nineties, And that's what
he's talking about here.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And the only time the author Arafat didn't tell me
the truth was and he promised me he was going
to accept the peace deal that we had worked out,
which would have given the Palestinians of state on ninety
six percent of the West Bank and four percent of Israel,
and they got to choose where the four percent of
(07:29):
Israel was, so they would have the effect of the
same land of all the West Bank. They'd have a
capital in East Jerusalem, they would have the I can
hardly talk about this, and they would have equal access
(07:52):
all day every day to the security towers that Israel
maintained all through the West Bank for the Golden House.
All this was offered, including I will say it again
a capital in East Jerusalem and two of the four
quadrants of the Old City of Jerusalem confirmed by the
(08:16):
Israeli Prime Minister Hudbarok and his cabin And they said no.
And I think part of it is that Hamas did
not care about a homeland for the Palacinians. They wanted
(08:38):
to kill Israelis and make Israel uninhabitable. Well, I got
news formed. They were there first, before there was their
faith existed. They were there in the time of King
David and the southernmost tribes Adjide in Samaria.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
That also not agreed upon by NPR. Yeah, and other
people on the left.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, I've gotten to the point that trying to reason
with the nprs of the world is useless, whether they
are so ideological they can no longer reason, or if
they are being deliberately dishonest about a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Right could have had a Palestinian state, which Tom Friedman
still arguing about to But Yaser turned it down when
it was Clinton, and Ahud Barack, and Yaser Erifat turned
it down when it was Bagan and Carter, and but
nobody cares at.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
The very very very end of the whole negotiation, when
it was time to sign the accords, he said, no,
I changed my mind, and they didn't say it out loud.
But it's about killing Jews. It's about the humiliation of Islam.
That is the Jews occupying that part of the world.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
They can't have.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
They can't have non Muslims controlling that part of the world.
That's the story and will be the story for a thousand,
thousand years.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Well, we're gonna have a new president elected this week
at the taping of this podcast, and I'm not exactly
sure which either candidate is going to do in terms
of support for UH these ideas, but we we'll see. Well,
I guess that's it.
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