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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Jetty and he Armstrong and Jetty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We overcame obstacles that nobody thought possible, and it is
now clear that we've achieved the most incredible political there.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Look, what happened? Is this crazy? It is crazy?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
I mean, it is absolutely hard to wrap your head
around what has happened, even though it's perfectly explainable. The
twists and turns over the last several years are just
mind boggling.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
But right there's supprizing but understandable. They can be explained
in contrast to the vacant, eye drooling confusion of the
media class.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Here's a little more from Trump's acceptance. What a winning
victory speech. That's what you call victory speech last night.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
But it's that political victory that our country has never
seen before, nothing like this. I want to thank the
American people for the extraordinary honor of being elected your
forty seventh president and your.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Forty fifth president.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Minor point, but why is it that if you win
two terms, like if your Barack Obama, you're the forty
fourth president for both terms. But if you win a term,
lose then win another term. You're the forty fifth and
forty seventh. Why is there, I don't know, you're still
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your president again, the same guy.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It's a minor points. Indeed, think it's odd.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I got so many different things, so many notes that
I took last night, just came across this today. Later
we'll play clips of the hosts on MSNBC talking about
it's all about racism and misogyny. That's obviously the reason
people vote for Donald Trump or won't vote for Kamala Harris.
Star County, Texas in the top five poorest counties in
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the entire United States. It's ninety eight percent Hispanic sits
on the US Mexico border, hasn't voted red since eighteen
ninety two, went red last night. Wow, all about inflation
and immigration. They were ground zero, hit hard on both
of those, obviously, And as this person said, they don't
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give an f about abortion.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I'm sure they don't. I have three or four headlines
from some of the biggest names in media, all saying
that Trump played on fears of immigration, right wave of
ancient anxiousness over immigration. It's all about the fear of immigrant.
The people in that tiny little Texas county don't have
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a fear of immigration. They are dealing with the reality
of immigration. That is. It's so funny the media just
can't concede that the actual day to day on the
street in their lives significant disruptions of illegal immigration. No no, no, no,
no no, it's their fears of it.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I'm going through a couple of other things that we
hit on and never got around too.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Oh on.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Kamala Harris losing because she's a woman. I still contend
that Hillary got more votes as a woman than she'd
have gotten as a man. And same with Kamala Harris.
I think it helps you more than it hurts you.
I think I don't know that it's impossible to prove
because you never know what you're like, hidden biases are.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
But I just anyway, well, and once again, I just
want to make sure I understand the situation. The side
that just all of a sudden, for the last five
years or so, can't tell you what a woman is
is saying that one lost because she is whatever. That is? Right, Okay, duck.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
But as a friend of mine pointed out, and I
haven't heard anybody say this. Two major female candidates that
were supposed to win both were chained to weak ass
men that were very hard to take both. Canaan Walls
were like, you're beta male, democratic, you know, graduate degree
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woman version of what a man should be.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
As OpEd men who are ashamed of being men.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
In short, how about you try running as a woman
with like an ordinary guy as opposed to kind of
the aweshucks, I'm the stupid one.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I'm kind of a dopey. I'm a knucklehead running with her.
Lucky she picked me because I don't even know how
to find the car without her help, and I'm sorry,
how times sorry? I'm a man what they needed one
for the ticket and they picked me, so sorry?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Right, how about you try picking an actual dude one
time to run with the woman to make her look,
you know, stronger.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Actually, how would Andrew Jackson react to Tim Walls. That's
an interesting thought experiment. Mind your own damn business.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
He'd say that one's not even worth slapping Ruth Marcus
in the Washington Post. Her first sentence was, I'm reeling
to be honest today.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
All right, that's because you're so wildly out of touch
with the American people, Ruth, you have no idea of
your countrymen and women. No, no, no perception of the
reality at all. You might you might as well be
writing about the the politics of Paraguay.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Do you hang around anyone who has voted for Trump,
or ever would vote for Trump. I'm guessing probably not.
Then you wouldn't be reeling as in shocked. It would
make perfectly, perfectly good sense to you. Here's a couple
predictions from Mark Halpern in his morning newsletter that I
think are probably right. The dominant media won't come close
to taking responsibility for their role in helping Trump win,
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won't fire those whose biases and incompetence has been on
display for as long as a decade, won't take the
steps necessary to understand the Trump movement, and won't reorient
in the next four years in any meaningful way.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
That's disappointing, but I think it's probably true. You would
think Trump winning the popular vote the way he did,
you would you would come to the conclusion we probably
had to have one person on a nine person panel
that agrees with the majority of America.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
But they won't. Yeah, I think I'm past any sort
of nostalgia for the media establishment. They are killing themselves,
and they are indeed dying of a disease of their
own making. So that's fine, go away.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I thought you're bad at your jobs. I thought this
was damn interesting. When honest political scientists study the demand
of Trump's win, they don't realize that Trump's remaking of
the Republican Party in twenty sixteen, turning it into a
white working class party, was nothing compared to what happened
this time, turning it into a black, Hispanic, white, young,
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independent working class party. Does that stay that way? Or
is that Trump only? Is that the force of his thing,
for lack of a better word, or is that the
Republican Party Now it's a Trump thing. Now here's I'm
gonna put on my analyst hat. The truth is Trump
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is scattershot enough and inconsistent enough that there is a
bit of empty vessel dynamic going on here. A lot
of people who voted for Trump love the fact that
he took on the elites who are so contemptuous of
regular Americans.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
They love him for that. What agreci stuff they like.
They remember the economy being good pre pandemic, but a
lot of it's kind of a vague he's with me.
What that ends up being policy wise, that's an interesting question.
I don't think anybody really knows the answer, including Trump boy.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
All kinds of stock markets around the world are soaring
on the news of Trump winning.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
That's interesting.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
And this final big prediction, Mark Alpernfore we take a break,
Trump will, in fact in the Ukraine war, safeguard Israel's security,
increase energy production, decrease regulations, cut taxes, control the Mexican border,
conduct a mass deportation, and change a myriad of social policies.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Correct. Amen, hallelujah. That's what voted.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
People voted for, not because the other candidate was a
woman and or black.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And we've had a couple of emailers attempt to guilt
us into supporting Trump over Harris by pointing out that
he might do something crazier untoward or any January sixth
or something like that. Yeah, you're right, he might, But
I juxtaposed that against what Jack was just reading, and
it's just not a hard decision because because I have
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faith in this country and its institutions and his checks
and balances, and it's people. If Trump truly wanted to
go dictator. A huge number of his supporters that say
that too much. Oh yeah, they're not cultists. They just
like the guy quit God, for God's sake, try to
get through like a five minute period without saying anything
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bitterly condescending about the American people. You media elite Puttz's.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
So, Kamala Harris hasn't spoken yet and Biden hasn't said
a word yet. Be interesting to hear what their tone
is going to be when they come out and finally
say something.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Well, Biden's tone is going to be senile, that batic Michael.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Now, I was just thinking what the White House is
going to be like the last few months between Kamala
and by.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I'll tell you what. I think. It's seriously on the table.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Biden stepping aside to make her the first first female president,
black female president. I think he would love that for
all kinds of historic reasons like go out on.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
A high note and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I can Plus, he should he shouldn't be president, and
it'd leave him more time for beach sleeping and jell
O eating. Come on, So the trans issue in the
election some crazy, as they're saying on EMMINSONBC as an
explanation as crazy crazy crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Oh oh yes, crazy bought some excrement. I get it. Yeah,
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So we got breaking.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Kamala is going to speak at four Eastern and this
on CNN from a Harris campaign official.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Biden will hold a lot of blame for loss. Wait,
I know, I love infighting. I can't wait. All right,
we're the scrutiny. Just the backstabbings are go ahead. The
blood running in the streets, I'm telling you, and I
can't wait. Let's front stab our old friend Joe Scarborough
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has lost his mind and or has made many millions
of dollars pandering. This is what he had to say today.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
By the way.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
As we've said of the show a thousand times, Democrats
should be on the women's athletics thing. Eighty five percent
of Americans oppose men transitioning after puberty and competing against women.
And I'm not just saying this the day after the election.
I've been saying this for years. This is not a
hard call. You can show compassion and you can show grace.
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And as the Republican governor of Utah said, let's figure
out a way to do this. But one way we
don't do this is by allowing men who transition after
puberty competing against young girls who have been working their
entire lives to be as good as they can be,
and then they get destroyed in the pool, on the track,
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et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Boy, the MSNBC crowd hated that reality, but as he said,
eighty five percent of America agrees, and as I've always said,
I think that other ten percent, I could probably get
seven to eight.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Percent on our side. Yeah, give me five minutes. Yeah, yeah,
So I want to explain where this came from from
Vivek Grahamosam Ramaswami. He tweeted the following a Republican lesbian
voter in Pennsylvania asked me about our party's attitude toward her.
My answer, You're free to love who you want, if
you want, without the government standing in your way. But
that does not mean boys should compete in girls' sports
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or that we promote gender confusion in our kids. There's
a big difference. And somebody responded, this is phony Viveke
pretending to be reasonable. Gallup found that there's a decline
and support same sex marriage among Republicans, and one of
my favorite Twitter accounts responded, the percentage of Conservatives who
support same sex marriage is in decline, and I suspect
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the reason for this is that many of them felt
an implicit social contract with liberals had been violated. We'll
support this gay marriage thing, they said, Now, please leave
us alone with the weird sex stuff. But no sooner
had scot Us ruled, when overnight the great human rights
issue of our time became requiring people to believe that
humans could change sexes. And if you said you didn't
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believe that, you could lose your job. And if she
said you didn't want to participate in the pronounce charade,
you could lose your job. And if you didn't want
a boy on your girls swim team, you were told
you would get kicked off the team or sent three education.
And then your jim kicked you out when you objected
to an old dude claiming to be a woman started
undressing next to your fifteen year old daughter in the
woman's changing room. And I could go on and on.
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So some conservatives decided they weren't going to play anymore,
weren't going to feel bad about not supporting something they
hadn't felt all that great about to begin with.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, this is one of those issues that who knows
how much of a role it played in the election,
even if you weren't thinking about it. I think a
lot of people, the vast majority of Americans do have
in their mind that the commal a side of things
represents all that craziness. And even if it wasn't like
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even close to top of mind for voting, it's in
that mix in your head of they're.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Crazy, this is nuts.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
This is just like the nuttiest thing that has ever happened.
All of a sudden, we don't have boys and girls?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
What? Yeah, you can't tell me what a woman is? Yeah,
that's insane. And not only are they insane, they are
aggressively mercilessly as that gent was just pointing out exported
their insanity and insisted you drop to your knees and
fall in line with it. Another great piece of writing
from Jennifer. She's an online present is really into women's spaces,
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women's rights, women's sports, that sort of thing. And she's
talking about the San Jose State women's some women's volleyball
team thing, and she said, it's amazing to see the
hoops people are going through to pretend that women don't exist.
And here's ABC News trying to figure out what fair means.
They can't say that women's sports are for women, so
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they have to twist themselves into knots, trying to think
how sports could be organized without women's sports actually being
a thing. And they quote someone as saying, we're never
going to be able to answer fundamental questions about fairness.
Quote so those kinds of questions we can answer, but
we're never going to be able to answer this fundamental
question about fairness because that's not a medical or scientific concept.
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It's a social justice, an a human concept. And she writes, yeah, yeah,
we can. Women's sports are for women. See how easy
that was, And then she goes into how they find
someone who's excited about the idea of science finding out
just how many drugs you should give to a man
to make it fair for him to play on a
women's team. The answer is zero, because men are not women.
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Women are not low testosterone men. And I wish we
had more time for a screed because it is righteous,
brilliantly written in one hundred percent correct. But I know
what a woman is and dudes can't be them. You
can present however you want. I don't care what you
do with your genitals. Have a surgeon cut them off
to none of my business. But I'm not calling you
a woman. You can't make me.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Some of the explanations for why Kamala lost on MSNBC
are unintentionally hilarious.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Oh I can't wait, and you will hear those coming up,
among other things.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
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Speaker 2 (18:11):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
I can't help but wonder if the American people have
given up on democracy simply because of what he's told us,
what he wants to do, simply because of what the
Supreme Court decided in terms of immunity. I mean he
has said he will get.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, okay, that's the point.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
A good job there, Jonathan Cape Parked Wapole, columnists on MSNBC. Yeah,
that's a good read of what the electorate told us
all yesterday, that they've given up on democracy.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
That's that's the advantage you being so much smarter than
me and having a fancy degree. You read perfectly the
seventy halver million people that have voted for Donald Trump
of why they.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Voted, Oh yeah, they turned out in enormous numbers to
vote against democracy.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
By the way, before we get to more ridiculous explanation
for why Trump won from the left, Harris, this is
a headline on CNN Harris has served. So the other
one was she's gonna speak at for Eastern and she
is going to call and concede to Trump. Then this
headline on CNN, Harris has reached out to Trump, but
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he has yet but has yet to connect. You know
exactly what that is. It's such a Trump thing to do. Yeah,
mister Trump. Uh Kamala Harris is on the phone. Yeah,
tell her, I'll uh tell her. I'm not available just yet. Yeah,
make her wait.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Such a Trump thing to do. O God, shades of
DeSantis too, with a she never called before. I'm not
gonna waste my time. Oh I love that.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
So looking at the New York Times before we get
to some more audio, I wish I could live in
a parallel universe where Kamala won, to see what all
the lead stories would be in the newspaper about how
this ushers in such a glorious new time for every man,
woman and child in America.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
It would all be positive.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But the giant headline at the top of the New
York Times Trump storms back, stunning, returned to power after
dark and defiant campaign. Of course, his campaign campaign was
dark and defiant. Her saying He's gonna be Hitler and
a fascist is not dark. I guess there's a hell
of a lot of laughter at his rallies for a
dark campaign. First article, his win opens an era of
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uncertainty for the nation. I assume if Kamalo would have won,
it would have been opened up an era of certainty.
Of course, analysis Trump's America comeback victory signals a different
kind of country and how awful it's going to be. Obviously,
that wouldn't have happened otherwise, America hires strong man.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Okay, fine, embraced totalitarianism, they said, as well, yeah, sure exactly,
and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I just I would love to Erica makes a perilous choice,
because it would have been a good, solid, certain, everything
headed the right direction choice if they had chosen by
four percent the other direction, peace on earth and goodwill
toward men. And then a couple of oh and for
the second time, a woman candidate loses, of course, and
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it's all about it being a woman. Here is Al Sharpton.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Let's do that one next.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Al Sharpton explaining on MSNBC what happened.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
We also have to deal with the issue of race
and gender. There was a lot of gender bias in this.
There was a lot of race bias in this, and
I think that we thought a lot of voters were
more progressive in those areas than they were. When you
have the Dobs decision and you see this kind of
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vote anyway with the person that put the three justices
on the Supreme Court, you have to ask yourself, we
fooling ourselves saying that Americans off further down the road
toward a dealing with gender bias and raised biased then
we saw.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
So your takeaway, if you're Al Sharpton or his type,
is what a disappointing night was to find out that
we're still as racist and misogynist as we are. Oh,
I thought we were better than that? Is is answer
such a one note, Johnny. It's like a bell choir.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Have you ever seen a bell choir where each choir
member has like one or two bells in their hand.
When it's time for an F sharp, you ring the
F sharp, only just Al just sits there waiting, and
you know, ced g Al, this is racism, all right,
thank you? Al? He's got one note.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Well, Al Sharpton might be just playing a game because
he's a he's a con man in a charlatan. But
I think the reason I was just I was not
happy last night is I think most of these people
believe this, and I think it's just it's trouble for
the country that we have so many of our unfortunately
like leading commentators in some of our most important institutions,
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actually believe this crap. Like here's former US Senator Claire
mccaskell her explaining it on MSNBC this morning.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
So, Claire mccaskell, your thoughts this morning.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, first, I think we have to acknowledge that Donald
Trump knows our country better than we do. I think
he figured out that anger and frankly, fear were way
more powerful than appealing.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
To people's better angels.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
That anger and fear were going to work in this election,
whether you're afraid of immigrants or afraid of people who
are trans. He figured that out, and I think we
all thought everyone's better angels would prevail. Turns out the
better angels went on vacation when Donald Trump came down
the escalator and they haven't returned.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
See that is her, in a very fancy way, saying
Trump supporters are trash.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, they're stupid and consumed by their own racist fears.
There's no chance that their anger is righteous or deserved, Claire,
There's no chance that the fear is not of the
idea of immigration, but what they have seen in their towns.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
It's I mean, she's just dripping with condescension. You're afraid
of immigration and trans people. I'm afraid of anybody. I'm
afraid of the craziness of having dudes in girls' sports
or dudes in girls' locker rooms. I'm afraid of allowing
just anybody from anywhere to come into the country. You
don't even know who they are, with no particular number
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or system.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I'm afraid of that. I don't think that makes me
crazy either, right or you know again, She expresses it
as like crude animal emotions that Trump supporters are too
stupid to understand that they're feeling. No, it's it's appropriate anger.
And I wouldn't even call it fear. I would say
it's a recognition of reality. If if my roof is
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leaking and I see the stains spreading across my living
room ceiling, I don't have a fear of water. I
have a concern about the damage it's doing.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Claire, Yeah, the New York Times headline I didn't read
was uh anger over immigration and fear of economics drives
Trump to Okay again, anger and fear. But like Joe
just explained, I mean, is that the right way to
describe it when something bad is happening, that you're afraid.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, I'm afraid.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I make twenty five percent less than I did three
years ago because of inflation.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I don't like that, and what a false choice. So
I have been lied to, abused and ripped off, and
yes I am angry, and you have vowed you're going
to do it again. So I suppose you could say,
I'm afraid it's going to happen more. And the choice
between those absolutely understandable human emotions or the other choices
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the better angels of nat of my nature. Right.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
And if you say, are you talking about lady, we're
getting screwed, We're tired of getting screwed.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
We're saying, hey, I'm voting for the guy's not going
to screw me anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
And if somebody says I'm going to fix the problem
that's playing upon my fears and she portrays it as
the better angels, nonsense. So that's interesting. I actually haven't
heard this clip from the Over the Top Joy read on.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
It's good twenty four cart Joy read. Here we go,
and we.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
Begin our final sprint, having arrived at that point in
the election season where basically, we on this side of
the TV screen have said all we can. We've laid
out the stakes in this crucial election where one side
stands for freedom while the other meets the textbook definition
of fascism, namely a far right dictatorial regime like Hitler's
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Germany or Franco's Spain Italy, but also white ruled South
Africa before Mendela and the black majority to control. Wow,
Vladimir Putin's Russia, Victor Orbon's Hungary, or Nicolas Maruro in
Venezuela today that suppresses the rights of women and minorities,
uses the military to execute the whims of a strong
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man dictator, and controls and suppresses the press, education, the arts,
rewrites history to suit a favored and dominant racial class,
and foment's extravagant corruption in order to enrich the dictator
and his friends.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, that's hilarious. Now, Phil, excuse me. I'm going to
sweep Donald Trump in by many millions of votes and
win the popular votes, something that was supposed to never
happen again. But thanks for your point of view. Wow.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Wow, that is so far out there I was expecting
and I know who Joy read is.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Whoo wow.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Way to set up the choice before the election results
start coming in. You've got everything that is good and
off awesome against everything that is evil and bad.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Let's see how it turns out. And hey, sweetheart, you
left out Sherman Mall and pol Pot. I mean, as
long as you're running them down. Wow. And again, it's
such a happy thing to me that vast swaths of America,
having taken in this filth and the constant drumbeat of
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indoctrination in schools, through media, through entertainment, they rejected it
so strongly. That makes me so happy. Never mind Trump
and his flaws and the ups and downs we're sure
to face as a country. I'm just so heartened that
the American people. I'm still worried about our young people
because young people are much more easily indoctrinated, but I'm
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so happy that such a big part of America said,
oh not, and what you're selling it doesn't make any sense.
I know what a woman is.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Another example of like sort of the subconscious back of
your mind, things that may have influenced millions of people
to vote a certain way after this.
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Speaker 4 (30:24):
So the problem with exit polling is, you know, they
have it dumbed down to a couple of different issues,
and then they declare won the reason that certain things happen.
Although you certainly could win a presidency on just inflation
and the border. I mean, that'd make perfect sense, but
how much did like said earlier, the trans stuff just
kind in the back of your mind, one party represents
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crazy and the other side doesn't.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Same thing with Biden's brain.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Which again, just like you were talking about, America understood
it despite all of the media covering for him whatever
it was at the time of that debate, like eighty
five percent of the country realized he shouldn't be president again, Yeah,
just from watching him. I don't get guy's passed his prime.
He shouldn't be president. In so despite all the lies
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and everything, Like, how much of that played a role
where Okay, you're the party of covering up for this guy,
she was part of that.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
She still hasn't admitted she pretends that he wasn't. I mean,
what's going on there? Well, and the media elite and
the you know, political elite, somehow they don't get when
that percentage of Americans sees that it is self evident
that the guy's senile, and you continue to say, no,
he's not. He's great behind the scenes, but you can
(31:39):
barely keep up with him. He sheriff. This is Joe Scarborough,
this is the best version of Joe Biden ever and
if you don't believe it, fu They don't understand what
that does to their credibility right amazes me.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
And that gets to the last thing Mark Alprin said
last night when he went off the air, is the
dominant media admit the role they played in getting Donald
Trump elected. The one thing they didn't want was for
Trump to get elected, and they played a huge role
in making sure he got elected by.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Trying to tell people.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
That what you're seeing with your own eyes isn't really well,
it's the definition of gas lighting actually used properly. You're
actually telling me something that's not true, trying to make
me believe you.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
And then the blatant law fair we've left that out
of the discussion so far. People saw that, and then
overwhelming numbers they said, wow, they're turning the cops and
the prosecutors on Trump just because they don't like him.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
We got to take a break. The infighting is going
to start today. I'm so excited about this.
Speaker 9 (32:46):
It's all about immigration and the economy. But immigration has
been a terrible decision for Democrats. I don't know who
they think they were playing to when they let millions
of people come cursing through the border at their own will,
because of their own decisions. They came running through that border,
and they didn't do a thing about it, and a
lot of people are very angry about that. Working people especially,
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They feel that they've been betrayed.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
They feel that their country.
Speaker 9 (33:11):
Has been given away, and they don't like it. And
I don't know who liked it. This Findings apparently didn't
like it. They went the law enforced, and so I'm
not sure they were playing to anything that was smart
here in terms of an open border, and that's what
it is, an open border.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Chris Matthews on MSNBC who got me tooed several years back,
But I remember in twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen, actually he
was the only person on the left I heard say
why Donald Trump was rising through the ranks the way
he was, because he.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Says he's going to do something about the border. People
hate all this illegal immigration.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, and it's just so obviously true, and nobody will
say it out loud.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Chris Matthews is still right about that. Who thought that
was a good idea is a good question. A couple
of things.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
David French, Conservative who was voting for Harris Yes, because
he hates Donald Trump so much and he's a columnist
for The New York Times. Tweeted last night, this Trump
victory will swamp all the micro explanations. Shapiro as VP
wouldn't have changed this. Keeping Arab Americans in Michigan wouldn't
have changed this. It's all the big stuff. Defeat in Afghanistan,
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a porous border inflation, and yes, this really matters. Biden's
refusal to acknowledge reality and step aside in time for
Democrats to have a real primary. Uh yeah, I would agree,
or you can claim it's misogyny ande of racism. So
to that point, because I've brought this up a lot,
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because I don't I couldn't quite get the the theory
by some people that you couldn't vote for Trump for
whatever reason, so you're gonna write in somebody else's name,
or when it's a binary choice, one of the two
people is gonna win. One of those two people is
gonna win. Who would you rather have be present for
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the next four years? I just I don't get it.
But Michael Brendan Doherty of National Review, who's a great writer,
put it better than I have been able to. I
concluded that is reprehensibly vain to morally fre ride on
the millions of Trump voters for a result I prefer.
While I pat myself on the back for not taking
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my own side, that's pretty good when you know that
you prefer that direction, but you're not going to vote
for that person because something it's vain.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
It's like, I'm a good person.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
But even though that's the result I want, I'm going
to freer ride on the backs of the people who
are going to actually pull the lever make a decision.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, he's not wrong. At the same time, we got
an email from a guy who says, listen, I don't
like what this company A is turning out, and I
don't like the product that company B is turning out.
So I'm not buying either one of them. That's fine,
do whatever you want. I don't feel very strongly about True.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
That's true, but you've decided to not have a role
and who's going to be president?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Fine. So we've got more clips to play Next Hour.
If you don't get Next Hour, grab it via podcast
Armstrong and Getty on demand. You ought to subscribe to
it or follow it, depending on the terminology at whatever outlet.
But Scarborough and Sharpton on MSNBC have decided that the
problem is they haven't condescended and judged people enough, so
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they're going to root out any black men or Hispanic
people who are misogynists or racist or whatever. That's the
problem that the Democrats face. And indeed the Wall Street
Journal has an argument between some center left Dems and
other and more lefty Dems. And there's a sizeable part
of the Democratic Party that thinks they lost because they
didn't swing left enough. Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
And then my favorite headline of the last hour anyway
on CNN Harris campaign official, Biden will hold a lot
of blame for loss.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Harris.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
People are going to start calling out Biden and blaming
him for losing.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yes, come on, yes, do it all day long and loud.
May there are a lot of backs out there. Let's
get started stabbing.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Yeah, And then Biden's got a start in with the
I would have won if you hadn't pushed me aside
to Nancy Pelosi and everybody, Oh, let me, let's get this.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Let's let's get this started. Come on now, Armstrong and
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