November 6, 2024 • 35 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- The Trump ultimate comeback
- How the election night unfolded
- How bent is the main stream media?!
- Where Kamala's campaign fell apart.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Yedty.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I can't help but wonder if the American people have
given up on democracy simply because of what he's told us,
what he wants to do, simply because of what the
Supreme Court decided in terms of immunity. I mean, he
has said he will he wants to go after his
political enemies.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I am your retribution.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
You can't wrap your head around why people might have
voted for Trump and seta Harris other than people have
given up on democracy that they want fascism serious.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
That is the Washington Post. In MSNBC's Jonathan T.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Cape hert, it's the most amazing political story in US history,
and that is not hyperbole at all.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
A clear winner.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Donald Trump's comeback, after all, he went through the way
he's been portrayed rightly and wrongly, and for him to
win as easily as he did last night, including walking
away with the popular vote, is a stunning political story
and books should be written about it.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
They will, and I think we have the sol Award
winner the idea of the Thomas Soul expressed that there's
some ideas so idiotic only an intellectual could hold them.
There is the learned and sophisticated Jonathan cape Heart describing
world record turnout of people voting in free elections as
(01:52):
abandoning democracy. I mean, you've got to go to the
Ivy League to be able to wrap your head around that.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Really, you don't think it could be inflation. I mean
the history of horrible inflation is whoever's in power gets
voted out. As Ian Bremmer tweeted last night, it's been
a mood worldwide for the last couple of years. Practically
every single incumbent has lost worldwide in elections.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's just that they're abandoning democracy and racism. The two
of those things, wow or sexism are both are all three.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It's this.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
You don't think a candidate or who refuses to have
a press conference, who wants to have taxpayers pay for
sex changes for prisoners, stop with their logic.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's burning me, it's burning.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
It's got to be people were attracted to authoritarianism. That's
what it's got to be. Are you freaking kidding me?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Michael, have the laugh ready. Uh, this jack is from
an old friend of the show and one of my
oldest friends, Mike's attorneys in Chicago. Tell me if they're
a better joke than this. All day long, he says,
the one constant is that Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Was wrong about a guy.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Again.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
That's Korey. Are never ever, ever ever gonna reelect you?
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Whoops, you know, sorry, We hit the really big things,
which are freaking inflation. I mean, the whole thing could
be boiled down to inflation and immigration. You let all
those millions of illegals in, and inflation is what it is.
The party that did that is gonna win roughly never.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
But if you want to get into all these different
kinds of specifics, like Van Jones was talking about yesterday,
all those celebrities you think that helped you in Michigan,
Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, all the Beyonces and Bruce Springsteen's and
all the different people, You really think all the celebrities
is what makes people feel like No.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
It was turning inward in a weird way, not reaching out,
especially to working Americans. It was just more of the
elite congratulating the elite, speaking of which the Jonathan K.
Part clip is just it's so amazing to me. I
don't think you can overestimate the importance of the idea
of the protected and unprotected classes in America for the
Jonathan k parts of the world.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
If you were to bring up immigration to him.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
To him, it is an intellectual conversation, a theoretical kind
of classroom conversation about race and bigotry and that sort
of thing. There is no reality of rampant illegal immigration
in Jonathan K.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Part's world.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I don't know if he has any kids or whatever,
but they're not going to public schools. They're certainly not
going to schools that are inundated with kids who can't
speak English.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
That's never lived in a town that completely changed its
character practically overnight.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, He's never lost his job because wages are so
depressed because there are so many people flooding across the
border well into work for practically nothing. He has never
sat for hours in an emergency room surrounded by recent
arrivals to the country. God bless them, are trying to
improve the lives of their families. A lot of them.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I'm leaving the Venezuelan rapists and gang members out of that.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
But it's entirely a theoretical.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Discussion for these people, and when they bring nothing to
working America but condemnation and judgment, when Working America is saying, hey,
inflation has beat the crap out of me. And by
the way, my kids' school can't teach the kids anymore.
And all you hit them with is you're a bigot,
vote for Kamala or you're a bigot.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Or a sexist or anything. How do you think that's
gonna play well? Right? And that's Jonathan.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
That's another one of the reasons that I was not
happy like I was expecting to be last night, as
kind of depressed. So Molly Hemingway tweeted out, Donald Trump
just won the popular vote, and most corporate media outlets
have only the microscopically tiniest handful of Trump voters on
air or in print.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's one of the things that I thought is going
to do us is.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Everywhere I flipped other than Fox, it was entirely people
who could never imagine voting for Trump.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
How do you run a news network.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
You're gonna have ten people on your panel, you should
have obviously, statistically six of your ten should be people
who vote for Trump. If you want to have an
idea of the way America works, but you.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Don't even have one.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
You don't even have one person that could imagine voting
for Trump.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And I'll bet this is even true.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I'll bet you didn't have one person on your panel
on there on CBS or whatever show it is, who
even knows somebody who would vote for Trump. They don't
even have an acquaintance who would ever vote for Trump?
How are you gonna cover the country when that is
the case.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
The problem with delusion is you don't know how deluded
you are.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I would think that'd be pretty obvious though you'd look around, Wow,
he just won the popular vote by millions and millions.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Did anybody here vote for Trump? Any of the camera
people anybody? Do any of us even.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Know anybody who would vote for Trump? That seems like
we're a little.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Out of touch.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Well, and I love your mental exercise here, but I'm
picturing the camera people and the electricians, some of the
tape editors and all like wanting to raise their hand,
not doing it.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Might be yeah, anyway, So.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
We're going to take you through the evening a little
bit through audio. This might take a little bit, but
I think it will be enjoyable. Michael, you have the list.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Audio will begin early in the evening with Abbie Phillip
on CNN.
Speaker 9 (07:24):
One person, though, who doesn't really want to talk about
winning is the candidate herself, Vice President Kamala Harris is
almost superstitious about not wanting to have that kind of conversation.
She has been head down all day today on the
phone doing phone interviews with radio stations. One person who
spoke with her recently said she wants to make sure
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every single vote is counted before her mind goes to
that place.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
She's not even going to talk about winning because she's
a little superstitious.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Isn't that a great example of her hard work? Roll
on this is van Ja.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
We know for sure that there is an authoritarian movement
in this country. We know it's pulled in some amazing people,
good people, union workers, veterans, some people here here with us,
But it's led by somebody who's an authoritarian who does
not believe in our constitution. That movement is strong. We
know that it has pulled in the richest man in
the history of the world. That's a strong movement. Elon
(08:21):
Musk is pulled in one of the most famous political families,
Rfk Junior with his whole movement of conspiracy people. There
is a strong authoritarian movement. The question is is there
a movement for freedom that can stop it. We're going
to learn tonight.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Van Jones is very bright and he is a decent man.
He's wrong about a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Do you think Elon Musk was into Trump is into
Trump because of the authoritarian side of him. No, he
thinks one side believes in free speech, in one side doesn't.
He's really worried about what the Democrats want to do
with free speech for one.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, and for folks who are really concerned about Trump,
and I know some folks are, and his his authoritarian
impulses and excesses, and whether it will be surrounded by
sycophans and that sort of thing, his overall nuttiness. Yeah,
that's a good way to summarize it. I will tell
you this, and I am one hundred percent certain this
is true. There will arise in both the House and
(09:17):
the Senate a caucus or a group of representatives, congress people,
senators who will call themselves whatever blue dogs or the
let's get going caucus or something like that. The moderate whatevers,
and they will they will limit Trump's worst impulses, whether
it's appointments or legislation or whatever. I just I have
(09:38):
faith in the checks and balances of our system. Roll on, Michael,
This one is Lyssa Farrogriffin on CNN.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I think that they're nervous.
Speaker 10 (09:48):
I think that they're his behavior in the final stretch
of it. I think they recognize their closing message was
nowhere where it needed to be. And some of the
early projections we're seeing show a momentum that I think
a lot of Americans are feeling this Trump era maybe
coming to an end.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
That must have been really early in the night, because
it was apparent quite early, as Trump was getting more
votes in every county that reported and she was getting
less in Biden that it was not going to work
out the way.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
They thought, Oh, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Jack.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
We haven't even featured the inimitable, the precious, the lovely
Rachel Meadow.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
What's your name? Thank you so much?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Say hi, I can't wait for you to grow ten
years more.
Speaker 11 (10:37):
I mean, every candidy has a choice what to do
with their last day on the campaign trail. I feel
like actually showing up and doing some work is a
good example to.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Set later that same evening, and.
Speaker 11 (10:50):
Let's look at some calls. We've got a lot of
states closing. NBC News can project at this hour in
the Michigan presidential race that it is too early to call.
In the Great State of Texas, NBC News projects that
there is a winner that Donald Trump has won in
the Great State of Texas. NBC News can also project
a winner in the presidential race in North Dakota.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
The winner is Donald Trump.
Speaker 11 (11:14):
NBC News also projects a winner in the presidential race
in South Dakota.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
The winner is Donald Trump.
Speaker 11 (11:20):
NBC News also suggests also projects a winner in the
Wyoming presidential race.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
The winner is Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
NHL about to fall apart. I don't know why the
networks do it the way they do it. That's why
it was so interesting to take in Mark Alprin's newscast
online in that he can and they can't just say
out loud what all the behind the scenes numbers are saying.
I mean, all those people, Rachel Matt, all those people
on all those news channels, they knew hours before they
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admitted it. That she had no chance of winning. Meanwhile,
hell is the evening progressed.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
You remember Abby Philip who gave us Camalis superstitious.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
She can't talk about winning yet. Okay, this is just
a little later on.
Speaker 9 (12:02):
This Groupierre has been here for a little while now,
and they've been watching the returns as they've been coming in.
They want some good news tonight. I can feel the
anxiety in the crowd. These are all people who want
to have a party, they want to celebrate. There's been
a DJ playing all night long. But the results are
coming in and they're coming in slowly. But each time
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a race is called for Harris or she's shown in
the lead in one of these battlegrounds, it is a
big moment for the folks here at the Kamala Harris headquarters.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Later that evening they were struggling to comprehend how this
could have possibly happened.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
And which is so revealing.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And the woman that they were there to see wouldn't
come out and even talk to them, just went home
so incredibly weak. I actually wrote down what Right's Prebus
said on ABC. I think about just how uncomfortable it
was for her to leave all those people hanging who
stood there for like hours waiting to see her, and
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you lose and you go home, come out there and
say I appreciate all your hard work or something that
is so freaking weak to.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
The idea of having no idea how this could have happened.
Heard one commentator whose act I don't really know, really
lay it down effectively, and we'll have him coming up
in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Heny of your thoughts. I need to get to some
of your texts pretty interesting. What do you think this means?
Text line four one five kfdcarro.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
It hasn't been completely college yet. We don't exactly know
what all the results.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Are going to be.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Our time is running out. I do want to very
quickly send a quick message to all the polsters, the
election polsters call.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Me, I don't.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Ever want to from you again. Ever, I don't ever
want to hear we've.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Collected to the over connection. You don't know about shuck,
don't care for you. So we haven't talked about polling yet,
and we should. We did.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
We had it right yesterday in that the country has
been misled as to what polling is in a variety
of ways. The most revealing thing that happened in recent
polling was that Iowa pull that came out Sunday. They
got so much attention from the woman considered to be
the best polster in America, Selzer, who had Kamalo winning
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by eight points I think or three points in Iowa
and Trump ended up winning easily.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
That is what polling is.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
And as I've seen other polsters say, good on her
and brave of her to put that out, because that's
the way polling works. It's all over the place. It's
a snapshot of a day. It's highly inaccurate. That is
what polling should be. All of those other polls coming
out being exactly the same. Were people just trying to
keep their head down and not get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
A polling can tell you it's going to be warm
today or cold, and that's about it for what it's worth.
Trump in Iowa by thirteen points, right.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
But that is whatever the right expression is, exception that
proves a rule or whatever. All those other poles that
were within a point every single time in every state,
those were the lies.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
That was the hurting.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
That was the correcting your poll so that you fit
in with whatever you want to fit in with it,
share the guts to go out and just do polling
best it can be done, which is incredibly inaccurate. That's
what we all need to learn. Polling is incredibly inaccurate.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
Which polls all of them.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Okay, so it looks like Trump won the popular vote
by five million.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, not even close.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
It is a giant map of redness with blue blotches
on the edges.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I should have done this as a tease. I can't
believe this hadn't occurred to me yet. Not only is
Trump the most amazing political story in US history, maybe
in politics history, just in general, the whole crazy election
with Biden in a seen island steps down, and you know,
all the different things that happened. There might be one
(16:27):
more amazing turn yet. And I could actually see this happening.
Kamala Harris can still become the first female president if
Biden resigns, and that would be a very Joe Biden
thing to do to try to be historic or whatever.
I think that could actually happen. That wouldn't surprise me
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in the least.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
How about you, It's absolutely possible. One of my favorite analysts,
my wife keeps bringing up. I think Trump is going
to resign at some point. I don't think he wants
to do it for years. I think jad Vance is
going to be president. He's not wrong.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
We did just elect the oldest person we've ever elected.
He's older than Biden was when we elected him. Trump's
old af As the kids say, we have a lot
of it. We have a lot more on the way.
If you miss an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
On demand Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
So I got up this morning and I watched Mark
Halprin's podcast that he did this morning, and he said,
the most hilarious thing happening in America right now is
MSNBC's coverage as they try to explain why Trump won
so easily and including the popular vote and how far
off the mark, they are just like, hilariously wrong. I
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find it depressing. He finds it hilarious. Maybe I'm just
tired or something. I find it depressing. I think it's
bad for the country that we have so much of
our major media so bubbled or crazy or I don't
even know what it is that they can't grasp the
easy to grasp reality of inflation and open borders and
(18:09):
some of the wok crap that's been going on that
people don't like. It's not difficult, but listen. Listen to
this paragraph that's in the New York Times today. The
relative stability on domestic and international affairs during the last
four years is about to be gone, replaced by a
voladile president who often operates without regard to national president.
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The relative stability on domestic and international affairs of last
four years is the most instable four years internationally since
I was a tiny kid in Vietnam who wrote that,
I don't know that that's a joke or even sarcasm.
The last four years of stability domestically, Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I'm sorry, I'm flappercasted by that. Somebody wrote that with
a straight face, and then somebody decided to print it
in the New York Times. That's their takeaway again. So
I'm I'd like to be able to find it just funny.
I'm troubled that people are so far off base. Yeah,
(19:18):
I'm a middle child. I like to bring people together.
I like to understand people. I don't just want to
dislike them. I'd like to understand what's going on, and
the best I can come up with. And I'm reading
a conversation between some of the Washington Post's columnists who
are aghast and shocked and trying to make sense of it,
and they fit absolutely into what we're both talking about here.
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It's got to be because we've agreed that progressives tend
to view things much more emotionally and doesn't make you
feel good or make you look like a good person,
as opposed to will this policy work, what will happen
if we enact it, how will people react to that?
What are the practical realities here? And it just must
be in that emotional mind. If you see something that
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is at odds with what you wanted to see, you
don't say, wow, I gotta change my calculus here because
I was wrong about that. You just block it, you
invented an excuse for it, or or I don't know,
or you just you engage in denial. To write a
sentence that unhinged. I mean, that's seriously, seriously kooky. That's
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got to be somebody whose wishes are so completely the
father of their thoughts that those are the only thoughts
that get in.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yeah, and particularly the the MSNBC crowd, the idea that
Trump winning, you have to turn on the electorate that
voted for him as being awful somehow. If Trump had lost,
I wouldn't turn on the electorate that voted for Harris.
I would have thought, Yeah, Trump's personality was just too
much for most people to take.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, wasn't disciplined enough. I wouldn't have thought so because
all the voters are evil or something.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's very hard for folks like us, and I'm talking
to a lot of y'all to get inside of the
head of somebody who's just entire process for taking in
the world is different than ours. But you've got to
admit that exists. I'm fascinated by it. Yeah, I'm astounded.
I mean, I'm like Ruth Marcus, who's an exceptionally bright
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human being. She's a columnist for the Washington Post. Flaming lefty,
but very bright. And you know some of the stuff
she says in this conversation, she's talking about everything that
happened over the last few weeks, all of Trump's unhindered
re marks and self inflicted wounds. I don't they're asking
the question, is it because he was a better politician
than they thought? Or what she says Likewise, I think
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Harris ran a very good and disciplined campaign, far better
than I expected, with a far more energized and unified
party than on the day Joe Biden Withdrew and they're like,
how they don't get how this happened. They called the
transgender ads. She's for They them, he's for you.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Vicious? Wow? But effective? What was vicious about that? Wow?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Being against taxpayers who you know, I'm not gonna haul
myself up on the cross, but taxpayers bust their ass
to make their living. Then the government takes a chunk
of that money away, money they could invest for their
old age so they don't starve when they're old, or
lack medicine, money that they could use to get their
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kid in education, or maybe their kid is sick or
autistic or whatever, and they know they're gonna need every
goddamn penny they can earn to protect that child through
their life. But no, the government takes a big old
chunk of that check, whether they like it or not,
then gives a bunch of it to some murderous lunatic
who thinks he's a chick so he can get his
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gens cut off. And you look at that ad and
you say, wow, that ad is vicious.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
You can't even see the world through the eyes of working.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Americans in this particular instance, if I want to keep
my tax payer money to buy a new PS five,
it makes more sense than me paying for sex changes
for criminals.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Good look forward, You're right.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I may have over egged the pudding, but yeah, they
the fact that they can't understand that outrage. It just
goes to show how insulated and bubbled and elite they are.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
How do you not get that?
Speaker 4 (23:35):
What color is the sky in your world? And how
is it not sepped through past tense? How is it
not reached? The judges will allow it.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
It's funny.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
I've been playing a lot of scrabble with my son.
I got to talk about that sometime, not today. There's
so much going on today, but the scrabble with the internet.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
The Internet. Internet may have ruined scrabble, but how is
it not reached the left.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
That even Hispanics don't like illegal immigration? Hardworking Hispanic men
hate illegal immigration just as much as a lot of
us do.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I was gonna bring up rent control as a bad example,
because the people in California just voted down a rent
control measured by huge numbers. I'm so happy and proud
of California voters. But whether it's like rent control or
artificial minimum wage hikes, the fact that a lot of
people don't understand how those are harmful.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I accept that I might not like it, and I
will try to argue against it and maybe educate them
about the realities of economics and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
But I get it, I understand it. I accept it. Hell,
I can even respect it.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You're wrong, but respect that you've come to that view,
and I would like to talk to you about it.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I just I do not understand.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I cannot comprehend these people who can't even recognize why
a voter is voting for what they're voting for. All
they can go to is blame and judgment, without even
the curiosity to seek a more full understanding. I'm sorry,
I can't understand, Ruthmarcus. Again, I would say, I don't
(25:27):
think this was about Trump prosecutions and Trump is a victim.
Maybe I suspect this was more about voters anger and
unhappiness at their own situations and about their own perceptions
of themselves as victims, including of an elite that disdains them. Well,
you got that right, than it is about Trump himself.
We're an angry and divided country, a country where too
many people are willing to blame immigrants for all sorts
(25:48):
of woes. A country that is furious about prices that
are not still not rising, or they're still not rising
but they're too high. A country where too many people
somehow find this strong man with his authoritarian impulse attractive
as a leader, so she can't get past her own judgments.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
The key thing for the people that don't like Trump,
this isn't entirely true, but it is for a lot
of us. He won in spite of all that stuff,
not because of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yes, one, in spite of that stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
We're putting up with a whole bunch of bad personality
traits from the guy because he's better on all these
different things that we've been talking about than the crazy,
crazy left and all of the newsrooms who have no
idea what's going on in the world.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Right right, And then basing your entire campaign on Trump
is Satan.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Or Hitler or Hitler satan or something.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Oh I get I'm famously a Trump skeptic, highly skeptical,
and my reaction.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
To that is, yeah, we know.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
I can't wait to for the full autopsy by the
Democratic Party for what they did wrong, including the turning
at the end away from how you're going to fix
the economy or whatever to Trump. Is Hitler deciding that
was your closing message. So Scott Jennings is a panelist
on CNN. He represents the conservative side. I don't really
know his act very well.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
But there was a bunch of muling and garment tearing
and shouting about racism and stuff on the CNN panel
and they turned to Scott Jennings and he unleashed the following.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
This is a mandate.
Speaker 8 (27:31):
He's won the national popular vote for the first time
since for a Republican for the first time since two
thousand and four. This is a big deal. This isn't
backing into the office. This is a mandate to do
what you said you were going to do. If the
economy working again for regular working class Americans, fixed immigration,
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try to get crime under control, try to reduce the
chaos in the world. This is a mandate from the American.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
People to do that.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
I'm interpreting the results tonight as the revenge of just
the regular old working class American, the anonymous American who
has been crushed, insulted, condescended to. They're not garbage, they're
not Nazis. They're just regular people who get up and
go to work every day and are trying to make
a better life for their kids. And they feel like
(28:22):
they have been told to just shut up when they
have complained about the things that are hurting them in
their own lives.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And sensing ahead of steam, mister Jennings, looking around at
his fellow panelists, continued, I.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
Also feel like this election, as we sit here and
pour over this tonight, is something of an indictment of
the political information complex. I mean, we've been sitting around
here for the last couple of weeks and the story
that was portrayed was not true. I mean, we were
told Puerto Rico was going to change the election. Liz Cheney,
Nikki Haley, voters, women lying to their husbands. Before that,
(28:57):
it was Tim Walls and the Camo Hats. Night after
night after night. We were told all these things and
gimmicks were gonna somehow push Harris over the line, and
we were just ignoring the fundamentals.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Inflation.
Speaker 8 (29:12):
People feeling like that they were barely able to tread
water at best. That was the fundamentals of the election.
And so I think that both parties should always look
at the results of an election and figure out what
went right and what went wrong. But I think for
all of us who cover elections and talk about elections
and do this on a day to day basis, we
have to figure out how to understand, talk to and
(29:35):
listen to the half of the country that rose up
tonight and said we've had enough.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Well, that's too bad.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
That guy is wrong, because Joe Scarborough just said if
Kamala Harris were a six to four white guy who
carried a shotgun and chewed tobacco, she.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Would have won. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
So it's her color and her gender that kept her
from winning, not the stuff that guy just said.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
That was a very gentlemanly explanation by mister jen I
salute them for that. The summary, or you know, the
dovetailing with that that I would hit the media elite
with is that the average voter who just swept Donald
Trump into office by huge majorities, out performing you know,
(30:18):
recent candidates in virtually every county in America.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
He got the highest percentage for Republican nationwide since Reagan
in eighty four.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Right, and y'all are flabbergasted by this. It's because those
voters spend ninety percent of their time on practical realities
of the economy and their checkbooks and their kids and
their kids' schools and the little boys eyeing their girls
and girls' locker rooms and all of it, and they've
(30:50):
got like maybe ten percent of their time to worry
about who's calling home weird and who's wearing a camo
hat and the stuff that mister Jennings mentioned ninety to ten.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Y'all in the media, it's flip flopped.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
You spend ninety percent of your time talking about your
high minded you know, you learned them and Wellesley and
Yale principles, and then when you have ten percent, spare
you say, and inflation, I hear has been tough on
the working class anyway.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Now let's go to Joy Reid. Joy, inflation is down anyway,
Joe Joey.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Reid would say, Okay, look at the scoreboard, Diches, That's
what I would reply.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Kamala didn't lose because she's a woman, But something about
the last two female tickets worth pointing out among other
things coming up stay here he yety. So we have
two clips set up by our executive producer hands and
we had Joe and I haven't heard, so this is
a surprise. So the first one is according to Hanson,
(31:52):
he says, this was the turning.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Point in the whole thing. Let's hear this clip first.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Well, if anything, would you have done something differently than
President Biden during the past four years.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
There is not a thing that comes to mind in
terms of and I've been a part of most.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Of the decisions that have had impact.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, if she had answered I'm going to kill you
all in your sleep tonight, it would have been a
better answer.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
You are right hands and that has been pointed out.
And then when she doubled down on it, like the
next day on the view with again. So yet you're
reeling from that answer that everybody's saying, what and you
do it again the next day?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
That was hilarious.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Okay, now this one, make sure I'm setting it up
correctly answering because I don't know what this clip is.
This is an astute political observation by a pundit.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
There was a singing the most astute conservation. Let's ask
for it. Let's hear it.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
When I was talking to the President the other night
in the back, I told him I don't buy these polls.
I've gone to eighteen different states. I'm pushing through all
fifty in My fans are Democrats and they're Republicans. I
see eight to ten thousand people a day Democrats and Republicans.
They're all for Donald Trump. Middle America is so upsided
it's unbelievable. But what you read in the press demonizing
(33:13):
President Trump, saying we're all domestic terrorist, talking about the
Nazi stuff. None of that stuff is true. And I
told Donald Trump, I can't even buy into these polls.
And when he says it's too big to rig, that's
exactly where this is at.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Now. That's hulk Hogan, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Constitutional scholar, Hulkus Hogan, Holcus Ogan.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
You know that was pretty right. That was pretty damned right.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Well and so plainly put in the style of a
normal guy.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Of asteroid freak yiss. Hey, Hey, it's the living even
was making. It is the field he's in.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
You know what you gotta do, You know what you're
gonna be a plumber, you buy some tools.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
You're gonna be an NFL lineman for being fat. You're
gonna be in this job to be fat.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Are you gonna be a wrestler? Yeah, it takes seroid's.
They give them that big fat shot in the ass.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
And also have sex with your best friend's wife on video.
Isn't that what that whole?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
No, that part's optional. Lawsuit Penglands brought back like that.
Hanson says that was one of his childhood heroes, So
be careful.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Wow, yeah, yeah, how much hold back to your ear
Slanders for once?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, one minute.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
I don't want to launch into this yet. And our
three from the wide world of news today. Some predictions
from Mark Halpron on what's going to happen that I
thought were really really good, So we will get into that.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
The I'm not fever dreams narious thoughts on the future.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
I will continue to take in a whole bunch of
the mainstream I was going to say lefty media than
mainstream media, but that is lefty media on seeing if.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
They can.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Find their own asses in terms of figuring out why
I Trump won and she lost. But so far I'm
notscing in the indigation event No. Twenty sixteen taught us.
There will be a few voices who say, Hey, we.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Really need to get out in this country and get
to know America again because we've lost touch. And people
will rub their chins and say, yes, that's an excellent idea,
and then forty eight hours later they'll have completely forgotten
about it.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Hey, news organizations have like one person in your entire
building that could ever even imagine voting for the Republican.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
That might be a good start. Good Lord Armstrong and
Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Yedty.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I can't help but wonder if the American people have
given up on democracy simply because of what he's told us,
what he wants to do, simply because of what the
Supreme Court decided in terms of immunity. I mean, he
has said he will he wants to go after his
political enemies.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I am your retribution.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
You can't wrap your head around why people might have
voted for Trump and seta Harris other than people have
given up on democracy that they want fascism serious.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
That is the Washington Post. In MSNBC's Jonathan T.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Cape hert, it's the most amazing political story in US history,
and that is not hyperbole at all.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
A clear winner.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Donald Trump's comeback, after all, he went through the way
he's been portrayed rightly and wrongly, and for him to
win as easily as he did last night, including walking
away with the popular vote, is a stunning political story
and books should be written about it.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
They will, and I think we have the sol Award
winner the idea of the Thomas Soul expressed that there's
some ideas so idiotic only an intellectual could hold them.
There is the learned and sophisticated Jonathan cape Heart describing
world record turnout of people voting in free elections as
(01:52):
abandoning democracy. I mean, you've got to go to the
Ivy League to be able to wrap your head around that.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Really, you don't think it could be inflation. I mean
the history of horrible inflation is whoever's in power gets
voted out. As Ian Bremmer tweeted last night, it's been
a mood worldwide for the last couple of years. Practically
every single incumbent has lost worldwide in elections.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's just that they're abandoning democracy and racism. The two
of those things, wow or sexism are both are all three.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It's this.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
You don't think a candidate or who refuses to have
a press conference, who wants to have taxpayers pay for
sex changes for prisoners, stop with their logic.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's burning me, it's burning.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
It's got to be people were attracted to authoritarianism. That's
what it's got to be. Are you freaking kidding me?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Michael, have the laugh ready. Uh, this jack is from
an old friend of the show and one of my
oldest friends, Mike's attorneys in Chicago. Tell me if they're
a better joke than this. All day long, he says,
the one constant is that Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Was wrong about a guy.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Again.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
That's Korey. Are never ever, ever ever gonna reelect you?
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Whoops, you know, sorry, We hit the really big things,
which are freaking inflation. I mean, the whole thing could
be boiled down to inflation and immigration. You let all
those millions of illegals in, and inflation is what it is.
The party that did that is gonna win roughly never.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
But if you want to get into all these different
kinds of specifics, like Van Jones was talking about yesterday,
all those celebrities you think that helped you in Michigan,
Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, all the Beyonces and Bruce Springsteen's and
all the different people, You really think all the celebrities
is what makes people feel like No.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
It was turning inward in a weird way, not reaching out,
especially to working Americans. It was just more of the
elite congratulating the elite, speaking of which the Jonathan K.
Part clip is just it's so amazing to me. I
don't think you can overestimate the importance of the idea
of the protected and unprotected classes in America for the
Jonathan k parts of the world.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
If you were to bring up immigration to him.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
To him, it is an intellectual conversation, a theoretical kind
of classroom conversation about race and bigotry and that sort
of thing. There is no reality of rampant illegal immigration
in Jonathan K.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Part's world.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I don't know if he has any kids or whatever,
but they're not going to public schools. They're certainly not
going to schools that are inundated with kids who can't
speak English.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
That's never lived in a town that completely changed its
character practically overnight.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, He's never lost his job because wages are so
depressed because there are so many people flooding across the
border well into work for practically nothing. He has never
sat for hours in an emergency room surrounded by recent
arrivals to the country. God bless them, are trying to
improve the lives of their families. A lot of them.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I'm leaving the Venezuelan rapists and gang members out of that.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
But it's entirely a theoretical.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Discussion for these people, and when they bring nothing to
working America but condemnation and judgment, when Working America is saying, hey,
inflation has beat the crap out of me. And by
the way, my kids' school can't teach the kids anymore.
And all you hit them with is you're a bigot,
vote for Kamala or you're a bigot.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Or a sexist or anything. How do you think that's
gonna play well? Right? And that's Jonathan.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
That's another one of the reasons that I was not
happy like I was expecting to be last night, as
kind of depressed. So Molly Hemingway tweeted out, Donald Trump
just won the popular vote, and most corporate media outlets
have only the microscopically tiniest handful of Trump voters on
air or in print.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's one of the things that I thought is going
to do us is.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Everywhere I flipped other than Fox, it was entirely people
who could never imagine voting for Trump.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
How do you run a news network.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
You're gonna have ten people on your panel, you should
have obviously, statistically six of your ten should be people
who vote for Trump. If you want to have an
idea of the way America works, but you.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Don't even have one.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
You don't even have one person that could imagine voting
for Trump.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And I'll bet this is even true.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I'll bet you didn't have one person on your panel
on there on CBS or whatever show it is, who
even knows somebody who would vote for Trump. They don't
even have an acquaintance who would ever vote for Trump?
How are you gonna cover the country when that is
the case.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
The problem with delusion is you don't know how deluded
you are.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I would think that'd be pretty obvious though you'd look around, Wow,
he just won the popular vote by millions and millions.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Did anybody here vote for Trump? Any of the camera
people anybody? Do any of us even.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Know anybody who would vote for Trump? That seems like
we're a little.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Out of touch.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Well, and I love your mental exercise here, but I'm
picturing the camera people and the electricians, some of the
tape editors and all like wanting to raise their hand,
not doing it.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Might be yeah, anyway, So.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
We're going to take you through the evening a little
bit through audio. This might take a little bit, but
I think it will be enjoyable. Michael, you have the list.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Audio will begin early in the evening with Abbie Phillip
on CNN.
Speaker 9 (07:24):
One person, though, who doesn't really want to talk about
winning is the candidate herself, Vice President Kamala Harris is
almost superstitious about not wanting to have that kind of conversation.
She has been head down all day today on the
phone doing phone interviews with radio stations. One person who
spoke with her recently said she wants to make sure
(07:45):
every single vote is counted before her mind goes to
that place.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
She's not even going to talk about winning because she's
a little superstitious.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Isn't that a great example of her hard work? Roll
on this is van Ja.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
We know for sure that there is an authoritarian movement
in this country. We know it's pulled in some amazing people,
good people, union workers, veterans, some people here here with us,
But it's led by somebody who's an authoritarian who does
not believe in our constitution. That movement is strong. We
know that it has pulled in the richest man in
the history of the world. That's a strong movement. Elon
(08:21):
Musk is pulled in one of the most famous political families,
Rfk Junior with his whole movement of conspiracy people. There
is a strong authoritarian movement. The question is is there
a movement for freedom that can stop it. We're going
to learn tonight.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Van Jones is very bright and he is a decent man.
He's wrong about a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Do you think Elon Musk was into Trump is into
Trump because of the authoritarian side of him. No, he
thinks one side believes in free speech, in one side doesn't.
He's really worried about what the Democrats want to do
with free speech for one.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, and for folks who are really concerned about Trump,
and I know some folks are, and his his authoritarian
impulses and excesses, and whether it will be surrounded by
sycophans and that sort of thing, his overall nuttiness. Yeah,
that's a good way to summarize it. I will tell
you this, and I am one hundred percent certain this
is true. There will arise in both the House and
(09:17):
the Senate a caucus or a group of representatives, congress people,
senators who will call themselves whatever blue dogs or the
let's get going caucus or something like that. The moderate whatevers,
and they will they will limit Trump's worst impulses, whether
it's appointments or legislation or whatever. I just I have
(09:38):
faith in the checks and balances of our system. Roll on, Michael,
This one is Lyssa Farrogriffin on CNN.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I think that they're nervous.
Speaker 10 (09:48):
I think that they're his behavior in the final stretch
of it. I think they recognize their closing message was
nowhere where it needed to be. And some of the
early projections we're seeing show a momentum that I think
a lot of Americans are feeling this Trump era maybe
coming to an end.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
That must have been really early in the night, because
it was apparent quite early, as Trump was getting more
votes in every county that reported and she was getting
less in Biden that it was not going to work
out the way.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
They thought, Oh, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Jack.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
We haven't even featured the inimitable, the precious, the lovely
Rachel Meadow.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
What's your name? Thank you so much?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Say hi, I can't wait for you to grow ten
years more.
Speaker 11 (10:37):
I mean, every candidy has a choice what to do
with their last day on the campaign trail. I feel
like actually showing up and doing some work is a
good example to.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Set later that same evening, and.
Speaker 11 (10:50):
Let's look at some calls. We've got a lot of
states closing. NBC News can project at this hour in
the Michigan presidential race that it is too early to call.
In the Great State of Texas, NBC News projects that
there is a winner that Donald Trump has won in
the Great State of Texas. NBC News can also project
a winner in the presidential race in North Dakota.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
The winner is Donald Trump.
Speaker 11 (11:14):
NBC News also projects a winner in the presidential race
in South Dakota.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
The winner is Donald Trump.
Speaker 11 (11:20):
NBC News also suggests also projects a winner in the
Wyoming presidential race.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
The winner is Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
NHL about to fall apart. I don't know why the
networks do it the way they do it. That's why
it was so interesting to take in Mark Alprin's newscast
online in that he can and they can't just say
out loud what all the behind the scenes numbers are saying.
I mean, all those people, Rachel Matt, all those people
on all those news channels, they knew hours before they
(11:48):
admitted it. That she had no chance of winning. Meanwhile,
hell is the evening progressed.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
You remember Abby Philip who gave us Camalis superstitious.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
She can't talk about winning yet. Okay, this is just
a little later on.
Speaker 9 (12:02):
This Groupierre has been here for a little while now,
and they've been watching the returns as they've been coming in.
They want some good news tonight. I can feel the
anxiety in the crowd. These are all people who want
to have a party, they want to celebrate. There's been
a DJ playing all night long. But the results are
coming in and they're coming in slowly. But each time
(12:23):
a race is called for Harris or she's shown in
the lead in one of these battlegrounds, it is a
big moment for the folks here at the Kamala Harris headquarters.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Later that evening they were struggling to comprehend how this
could have possibly happened.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
And which is so revealing.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And the woman that they were there to see wouldn't
come out and even talk to them, just went home
so incredibly weak. I actually wrote down what Right's Prebus
said on ABC. I think about just how uncomfortable it
was for her to leave all those people hanging who
stood there for like hours waiting to see her, and
(13:02):
you lose and you go home, come out there and
say I appreciate all your hard work or something that
is so freaking weak to.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
The idea of having no idea how this could have happened.
Heard one commentator whose act I don't really know, really
lay it down effectively, and we'll have him coming up
in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Heny of your thoughts. I need to get to some
of your texts pretty interesting. What do you think this means?
Text line four one five kfdcarro.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
It hasn't been completely college yet. We don't exactly know
what all the results.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Are going to be.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Our time is running out. I do want to very
quickly send a quick message to all the polsters, the
election polsters call.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Me, I don't.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Ever want to from you again. Ever, I don't ever
want to hear we've.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Collected to the over connection. You don't know about shuck,
don't care for you. So we haven't talked about polling yet,
and we should. We did.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
We had it right yesterday in that the country has
been misled as to what polling is in a variety
of ways. The most revealing thing that happened in recent
polling was that Iowa pull that came out Sunday. They
got so much attention from the woman considered to be
the best polster in America, Selzer, who had Kamalo winning
(14:45):
by eight points I think or three points in Iowa
and Trump ended up winning easily.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
That is what polling is.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
And as I've seen other polsters say, good on her
and brave of her to put that out, because that's
the way polling works. It's all over the place. It's
a snapshot of a day. It's highly inaccurate. That is
what polling should be. All of those other polls coming
out being exactly the same. Were people just trying to
keep their head down and not get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
A polling can tell you it's going to be warm
today or cold, and that's about it for what it's worth.
Trump in Iowa by thirteen points, right.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
But that is whatever the right expression is, exception that
proves a rule or whatever. All those other poles that
were within a point every single time in every state,
those were the lies.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
That was the hurting.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
That was the correcting your poll so that you fit
in with whatever you want to fit in with it,
share the guts to go out and just do polling
best it can be done, which is incredibly inaccurate. That's
what we all need to learn. Polling is incredibly inaccurate.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
Which polls all of them.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Okay, so it looks like Trump won the popular vote
by five million.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, not even close.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
It is a giant map of redness with blue blotches
on the edges.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I should have done this as a tease. I can't
believe this hadn't occurred to me yet. Not only is
Trump the most amazing political story in US history, maybe
in politics history, just in general, the whole crazy election
with Biden in a seen island steps down, and you know,
all the different things that happened. There might be one
(16:27):
more amazing turn yet. And I could actually see this happening.
Kamala Harris can still become the first female president if
Biden resigns, and that would be a very Joe Biden
thing to do to try to be historic or whatever.
I think that could actually happen. That wouldn't surprise me
(16:47):
in the least.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
How about you, It's absolutely possible. One of my favorite analysts,
my wife keeps bringing up. I think Trump is going
to resign at some point. I don't think he wants
to do it for years. I think jad Vance is
going to be president. He's not wrong.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
We did just elect the oldest person we've ever elected.
He's older than Biden was when we elected him. Trump's
old af As the kids say, we have a lot
of it. We have a lot more on the way.
If you miss an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
On demand Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
So I got up this morning and I watched Mark
Halprin's podcast that he did this morning, and he said,
the most hilarious thing happening in America right now is
MSNBC's coverage as they try to explain why Trump won
so easily and including the popular vote and how far
off the mark, they are just like, hilariously wrong. I
(17:46):
find it depressing. He finds it hilarious. Maybe I'm just
tired or something. I find it depressing. I think it's
bad for the country that we have so much of
our major media so bubbled or crazy or I don't
even know what it is that they can't grasp the
easy to grasp reality of inflation and open borders and
(18:09):
some of the wok crap that's been going on that
people don't like. It's not difficult, but listen. Listen to
this paragraph that's in the New York Times today. The
relative stability on domestic and international affairs during the last
four years is about to be gone, replaced by a
voladile president who often operates without regard to national president.
(18:31):
The relative stability on domestic and international affairs of last
four years is the most instable four years internationally since
I was a tiny kid in Vietnam who wrote that,
I don't know that that's a joke or even sarcasm.
The last four years of stability domestically, Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I'm sorry, I'm flappercasted by that. Somebody wrote that with
a straight face, and then somebody decided to print it
in the New York Times. That's their takeaway again. So
I'm I'd like to be able to find it just funny.
I'm troubled that people are so far off base. Yeah,
(19:18):
I'm a middle child. I like to bring people together.
I like to understand people. I don't just want to
dislike them. I'd like to understand what's going on, and
the best I can come up with. And I'm reading
a conversation between some of the Washington Post's columnists who
are aghast and shocked and trying to make sense of it,
and they fit absolutely into what we're both talking about here.
(19:41):
It's got to be because we've agreed that progressives tend
to view things much more emotionally and doesn't make you
feel good or make you look like a good person,
as opposed to will this policy work, what will happen
if we enact it, how will people react to that?
What are the practical realities here? And it just must
be in that emotional mind. If you see something that
(20:04):
is at odds with what you wanted to see, you
don't say, wow, I gotta change my calculus here because
I was wrong about that. You just block it, you
invented an excuse for it, or or I don't know,
or you just you engage in denial. To write a
sentence that unhinged. I mean, that's seriously, seriously kooky. That's
(20:29):
got to be somebody whose wishes are so completely the
father of their thoughts that those are the only thoughts
that get in.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yeah, and particularly the the MSNBC crowd, the idea that
Trump winning, you have to turn on the electorate that
voted for him as being awful somehow. If Trump had lost,
I wouldn't turn on the electorate that voted for Harris.
I would have thought, Yeah, Trump's personality was just too
much for most people to take.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, wasn't disciplined enough. I wouldn't have thought so because
all the voters are evil or something.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's very hard for folks like us, and I'm talking
to a lot of y'all to get inside of the
head of somebody who's just entire process for taking in
the world is different than ours. But you've got to
admit that exists. I'm fascinated by it. Yeah, I'm astounded.
I mean, I'm like Ruth Marcus, who's an exceptionally bright
(21:28):
human being. She's a columnist for the Washington Post. Flaming lefty,
but very bright. And you know some of the stuff
she says in this conversation, she's talking about everything that
happened over the last few weeks, all of Trump's unhindered
re marks and self inflicted wounds. I don't they're asking
the question, is it because he was a better politician
than they thought? Or what she says Likewise, I think
(21:50):
Harris ran a very good and disciplined campaign, far better
than I expected, with a far more energized and unified
party than on the day Joe Biden Withdrew and they're like,
how they don't get how this happened. They called the
transgender ads. She's for They them, he's for you.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Vicious? Wow? But effective? What was vicious about that? Wow?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Being against taxpayers who you know, I'm not gonna haul
myself up on the cross, but taxpayers bust their ass
to make their living. Then the government takes a chunk
of that money away, money they could invest for their
old age so they don't starve when they're old, or
lack medicine, money that they could use to get their
(22:39):
kid in education, or maybe their kid is sick or
autistic or whatever, and they know they're gonna need every
goddamn penny they can earn to protect that child through
their life. But no, the government takes a big old
chunk of that check, whether they like it or not,
then gives a bunch of it to some murderous lunatic
who thinks he's a chick so he can get his
(22:59):
gens cut off. And you look at that ad and
you say, wow, that ad is vicious.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
You can't even see the world through the eyes of working.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Americans in this particular instance, if I want to keep
my tax payer money to buy a new PS five,
it makes more sense than me paying for sex changes
for criminals.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Good look forward, You're right.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I may have over egged the pudding, but yeah, they
the fact that they can't understand that outrage. It just
goes to show how insulated and bubbled and elite they are.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
How do you not get that?
Speaker 4 (23:35):
What color is the sky in your world? And how
is it not sepped through past tense? How is it
not reached? The judges will allow it.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
It's funny.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
I've been playing a lot of scrabble with my son.
I got to talk about that sometime, not today. There's
so much going on today, but the scrabble with the internet.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
The Internet. Internet may have ruined scrabble, but how is
it not reached the left.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
That even Hispanics don't like illegal immigration? Hardworking Hispanic men
hate illegal immigration just as much as a lot of
us do.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I was gonna bring up rent control as a bad example,
because the people in California just voted down a rent
control measured by huge numbers. I'm so happy and proud
of California voters. But whether it's like rent control or
artificial minimum wage hikes, the fact that a lot of
people don't understand how those are harmful.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I accept that I might not like it, and I
will try to argue against it and maybe educate them
about the realities of economics and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
But I get it, I understand it. I accept it. Hell,
I can even respect it.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You're wrong, but respect that you've come to that view,
and I would like to talk to you about it.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I just I do not understand.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I cannot comprehend these people who can't even recognize why
a voter is voting for what they're voting for. All
they can go to is blame and judgment, without even
the curiosity to seek a more full understanding. I'm sorry,
I can't understand, Ruthmarcus. Again, I would say, I don't
(25:27):
think this was about Trump prosecutions and Trump is a victim.
Maybe I suspect this was more about voters anger and
unhappiness at their own situations and about their own perceptions
of themselves as victims, including of an elite that disdains them. Well,
you got that right, than it is about Trump himself.
We're an angry and divided country, a country where too
many people are willing to blame immigrants for all sorts
(25:48):
of woes. A country that is furious about prices that
are not still not rising, or they're still not rising
but they're too high. A country where too many people
somehow find this strong man with his authoritarian impulse attractive
as a leader, so she can't get past her own judgments.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
The key thing for the people that don't like Trump,
this isn't entirely true, but it is for a lot
of us. He won in spite of all that stuff,
not because of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yes, one, in spite of that stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
We're putting up with a whole bunch of bad personality
traits from the guy because he's better on all these
different things that we've been talking about than the crazy,
crazy left and all of the newsrooms who have no
idea what's going on in the world.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Right right, And then basing your entire campaign on Trump
is Satan.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Or Hitler or Hitler satan or something.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Oh I get I'm famously a Trump skeptic, highly skeptical,
and my reaction.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
To that is, yeah, we know.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
I can't wait to for the full autopsy by the
Democratic Party for what they did wrong, including the turning
at the end away from how you're going to fix
the economy or whatever to Trump. Is Hitler deciding that
was your closing message. So Scott Jennings is a panelist
on CNN. He represents the conservative side. I don't really
know his act very well.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
But there was a bunch of muling and garment tearing
and shouting about racism and stuff on the CNN panel
and they turned to Scott Jennings and he unleashed the following.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
This is a mandate.
Speaker 8 (27:31):
He's won the national popular vote for the first time
since for a Republican for the first time since two
thousand and four. This is a big deal. This isn't
backing into the office. This is a mandate to do
what you said you were going to do. If the
economy working again for regular working class Americans, fixed immigration,
(27:53):
try to get crime under control, try to reduce the
chaos in the world. This is a mandate from the American.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
People to do that.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
I'm interpreting the results tonight as the revenge of just
the regular old working class American, the anonymous American who
has been crushed, insulted, condescended to. They're not garbage, they're
not Nazis. They're just regular people who get up and
go to work every day and are trying to make
a better life for their kids. And they feel like
(28:22):
they have been told to just shut up when they
have complained about the things that are hurting them in
their own lives.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And sensing ahead of steam, mister Jennings, looking around at
his fellow panelists, continued, I.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
Also feel like this election, as we sit here and
pour over this tonight, is something of an indictment of
the political information complex. I mean, we've been sitting around
here for the last couple of weeks and the story
that was portrayed was not true. I mean, we were
told Puerto Rico was going to change the election. Liz Cheney,
Nikki Haley, voters, women lying to their husbands. Before that,
(28:57):
it was Tim Walls and the Camo Hats. Night after
night after night. We were told all these things and
gimmicks were gonna somehow push Harris over the line, and
we were just ignoring the fundamentals.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Inflation.
Speaker 8 (29:12):
People feeling like that they were barely able to tread
water at best. That was the fundamentals of the election.
And so I think that both parties should always look
at the results of an election and figure out what
went right and what went wrong. But I think for
all of us who cover elections and talk about elections
and do this on a day to day basis, we
have to figure out how to understand, talk to and
(29:35):
listen to the half of the country that rose up
tonight and said we've had enough.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Well, that's too bad.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
That guy is wrong, because Joe Scarborough just said if
Kamala Harris were a six to four white guy who
carried a shotgun and chewed tobacco, she.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Would have won. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
So it's her color and her gender that kept her
from winning, not the stuff that guy just said.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
That was a very gentlemanly explanation by mister jen I
salute them for that. The summary, or you know, the
dovetailing with that that I would hit the media elite
with is that the average voter who just swept Donald
Trump into office by huge majorities, out performing you know,
(30:18):
recent candidates in virtually every county in America.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
He got the highest percentage for Republican nationwide since Reagan
in eighty four.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Right, and y'all are flabbergasted by this. It's because those
voters spend ninety percent of their time on practical realities
of the economy and their checkbooks and their kids and
their kids' schools and the little boys eyeing their girls
and girls' locker rooms and all of it, and they've
(30:50):
got like maybe ten percent of their time to worry
about who's calling home weird and who's wearing a camo
hat and the stuff that mister Jennings mentioned ninety to ten.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Y'all in the media, it's flip flopped.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
You spend ninety percent of your time talking about your
high minded you know, you learned them and Wellesley and
Yale principles, and then when you have ten percent, spare
you say, and inflation, I hear has been tough on
the working class anyway.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Now let's go to Joy Reid. Joy, inflation is down anyway,
Joe Joey.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Reid would say, Okay, look at the scoreboard, Diches, That's
what I would reply.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Kamala didn't lose because she's a woman, But something about
the last two female tickets worth pointing out among other
things coming up stay here he yety. So we have
two clips set up by our executive producer hands and
we had Joe and I haven't heard, so this is
a surprise. So the first one is according to Hanson,
(31:52):
he says, this was the turning.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Point in the whole thing. Let's hear this clip first.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Well, if anything, would you have done something differently than
President Biden during the past four years.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
There is not a thing that comes to mind in
terms of and I've been a part of most.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Of the decisions that have had impact.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, if she had answered I'm going to kill you
all in your sleep tonight, it would have been a
better answer.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
You are right hands and that has been pointed out.
And then when she doubled down on it, like the
next day on the view with again. So yet you're
reeling from that answer that everybody's saying, what and you
do it again the next day?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
That was hilarious.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Okay, now this one, make sure I'm setting it up
correctly answering because I don't know what this clip is.
This is an astute political observation by a pundit.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
There was a singing the most astute conservation. Let's ask
for it. Let's hear it.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
When I was talking to the President the other night
in the back, I told him I don't buy these polls.
I've gone to eighteen different states. I'm pushing through all
fifty in My fans are Democrats and they're Republicans. I
see eight to ten thousand people a day Democrats and Republicans.
They're all for Donald Trump. Middle America is so upsided
it's unbelievable. But what you read in the press demonizing
(33:13):
President Trump, saying we're all domestic terrorist, talking about the
Nazi stuff. None of that stuff is true. And I
told Donald Trump, I can't even buy into these polls.
And when he says it's too big to rig, that's
exactly where this is at.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Now. That's hulk Hogan, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Constitutional scholar, Hulkus Hogan, Holcus Ogan.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
You know that was pretty right. That was pretty damned right.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Well and so plainly put in the style of a
normal guy.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Of asteroid freak yiss. Hey, Hey, it's the living even
was making. It is the field he's in.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
You know what you gotta do, You know what you're
gonna be a plumber, you buy some tools.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
You're gonna be an NFL lineman for being fat. You're
gonna be in this job to be fat.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Are you gonna be a wrestler? Yeah, it takes seroid's.
They give them that big fat shot in the ass.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
And also have sex with your best friend's wife on video.
Isn't that what that whole?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
No, that part's optional. Lawsuit Penglands brought back like that.
Hanson says that was one of his childhood heroes, So
be careful.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Wow, yeah, yeah, how much hold back to your ear
Slanders for once?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, one minute.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
I don't want to launch into this yet. And our
three from the wide world of news today. Some predictions
from Mark Halpron on what's going to happen that I
thought were really really good, So we will get into that.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
The I'm not fever dreams narious thoughts on the future.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
I will continue to take in a whole bunch of
the mainstream I was going to say lefty media than
mainstream media, but that is lefty media on seeing if.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
They can.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Find their own asses in terms of figuring out why
I Trump won and she lost. But so far I'm
notscing in the indigation event No. Twenty sixteen taught us.
There will be a few voices who say, Hey, we.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Really need to get out in this country and get
to know America again because we've lost touch. And people
will rub their chins and say, yes, that's an excellent idea,
and then forty eight hours later they'll have completely forgotten
about it.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Hey, news organizations have like one person in your entire
building that could ever even imagine voting for the Republican.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
That might be a good start. Good Lord Armstrong and
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