November 18, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- Mike Lyons talks to A&G about the expansion of the war in Ukraine
- The brutal Tyson fight & the ladies undercard
- Morning Joe talks to Trump
- Trump's crew at the UFC fight
- The hot girls who end up on camera going viral
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Katty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Benny woolweary Ukrainians now, except they're unlikely to retake some
of the land that Russia's annexed, like Crimea, and Putin's
un likely to settle without it.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
But Ukraine is going to need meaningful.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Security guarantees that Putin would break agreements and attack again
as he has done before for the first time. President
Joe Biden also I think Ukraine to use long range
US missiles to strike Russia, A studying change in policies
a major factor in the decision. US officials say ten
thousand North Korean troops arriving in Russia to fight alongside
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the Russians.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
He and the reporting today from everyone coming out of
South Korea that North Korea might be sending one hundred
thousand troops to Russia, a one hundred thousand, which is
really something in The New York Times saying today that
the whole Biden allowing the new weaponry is all about
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shoring up Ukraine before Trump comes in because he's worried
Trump is going to be, you know, less supportive of Ukraine.
What kind of theory is that you either support Ukraine?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Are you not?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Your timetables shouldn't be based on whether or not Trump's
coming in.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I don't get that at all.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Well, yeah, let's not get starting about the Biden Ford
and policy in their support for Ukraine. Let's talk to
military analyst Mike Lyons about this topic and a couple
of others.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
There's a great deal to discuss. Mike, Hi, how are.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
You hey, Good morning guys. Great to be back with you.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
So well, these attack them weapons now that they can
fire him into Russia make much difference.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
No, they really won't. It's also, you know, dayly eight
dollars short. And it just goes to show you that
this administration has not allowed Ukraine to fight this war.
They've just tried to manage it. And what we've managed
is the slow demise and the degradation of Ukraine's military assets.
We've allowed Ukraine nothing when it comes to going on
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the offensive, and it's allowed Russia to rearm refit itself
when those times when Ukraine was just trying to seize
the initiative.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
So at this point to your point before. It has
to do with trying to trump proof this.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
They're getting as many pieces of equipment I guess to
Ukraine as possible attackers are just deep artillery fires that
can go well into Russia. They'll target let's say, airstrips
and logistic facilities, and they're only allowed to be used
in the Curse region.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Once again, I.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
Don't understand either. They've also put that restriction on them
as well. You still don't see storm shadow from the bridge,
you still don't see other weapons coming from NATO. So
the bottom line is it's going to make no difference whatsoever,
and we're all it's just getting to the point of
when the trumpetdministration is going to come in and seeing
what they're going to.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Do, just out of curiosity, Mike.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
We get the argument via email, text, whatever from folks
are of the more JD vans Ukraine is not our
problem philosophy saying hey, we're going to cause World War
three for something that's not in our strategic interests.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
How do you respond to them?
Speaker 7 (03:18):
I think strategically have to look at this as deterrence
and as the fact of if you're going by an
order that says one country can invade its neighbor. But
we're past that now, four years, three years past that
time of trying to re establish it. It's going to
have to be established, you know, quickly. I think it's
starting to be re established in the Middle East, for example,
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what the Trump administration coming in, going to allow Israel
to I believe, going to attack Iranian nuclear facility. But no,
it is our problem, it's Europe's problem. It's something that
we have to take the lead on and the like.
I don't think we need to against send American soldiers,
but we could have supported Ukraine initially from the beginning.
This drip drip drip of how we've supported them and
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how again, it's been about managing this as opposed to
letting Ukraine fight the war. So to say that it's
not necessarily our problem is not really the whole truth.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Russia had their worst month of the entire war. This
past month lost nearly fifteen hundred men a day casualties.
That's a stunning number. And now the reporting today one
hundred thousand North Korean troops maybe on the way. How
do you react all that stuff?
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Yeah, I don't know how one hundred thousand troops are
going to get there. I mean, it's a long train
ride from wherever they're coming from. So there's that's a
pretty big logistical challenge. It would take them months for.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
That to happen.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
But the ones that are there, they could become targeted.
Let's say those take attackers could be targeting those military
areas where they think that those troops are going to be,
and those guys are going to get there and find
out very quickly that this is the last place in
the world they want to be.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
So I don't know.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
I think that there's a lot of a lot of
logistics to still figure out whether how you're going to
get one hundred thousand troops from, you know, versusly that
part of the world, from North Korea into Russia in
a manner and then get them to the battlefield.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
That seems a pretty long long task to get a compus.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
But just in general, the idea of North Korean troops
using Iranian weapons while Russia is funded by Chinese money,
that's a lot of countries involved in a war.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Oh yeah, who had that in their Bengal card for
this year?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Right?
Speaker 7 (05:23):
North Korean troops inside of Russia fighting against Ukraine.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
No one did.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
And this is exactly what this Biden administration is allowed
to happen. It's allowed this access of these allies between
Russia and China. I think India is now more aligned
with China than they've ever been before. North Korea, Iran,
and then the Huthis still as the Russians can still
fund things that are going on for the Huthis to
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attack Americans.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
So the terrence needs to be re established very quickly.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
In the new Trump administration, I think you're going to
see them try to do that.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
They'll do it in both ways.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
I think carrot and stick in this way in Ukraine
in particular, they'll try to do a business deal. I
think they'll try to convince Russia that they don't want
to be this vassal state of China. I think that
deep down that's kind of what's going on right now,
and Russia precedes itself to be a world power. I
think I think Donald Trump will try to make a
deal with the Russians and a business like transaction to
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kind of, you know, kind of pay them off for
stopping the war and then allow them this latitude to
potentially become a great world power again, and vladimber Putin
might go for that.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
We'll see.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Yeah, studying the frenemy ship of China and Russia through
the decades is a really interesting thing, and I love
the idea of trying to drive a wedge as we
have in the past. But closer to home, Jack, did
you want to get into the SECT deaf thing?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we saw.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I saw you tweet something in support of people of
your rank with Exeth being named the candidate for SECT.
Have you guys had the same rank?
Speaker 7 (06:56):
Yeah, we were retired army major, so I thought that
was pretty funny there.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
I've met Pete a couple of times.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
I don't know him that well or anything like that,
but he's a smart guy, disruptive type individual. I think
once he gets to you know, to the Pentagon, hopefully
he'd make it there. But he'll bring this perspective of
I think, being closer to the troops, and I think
that the general officers talk a good game about it,
but frankly ours are so far removed of it. They're
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thinking about strategy, and they're thinking about things at such
a high level. I think right now he's it would
be an individual that I think would work out well
from a disruptive capability. You know, Pete Hex that's going
to go into the Pentagon and put a sign in
every conference room in the Pentagon that says the priority
of the militaries to fight and win the nation's wars,
And every meeting that takes place in that conference room
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is going to say, well, if the if the purpose
of this meeting is not to accomplish that objective, we're
not meeting, we're not talking about it. So I think
you're going to see a lot of things go by
the wayside. Frankly that this administration has tried to force
through the military the past four years. They've used the
military as social reinjeering at something unfortunately Democrats have done
in the past, as opposed to trying to recognize that
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the military reflects society but then not become an experiment
for society. So I think I think that he'll look
to change a lot of those kinds of things.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
I realized this is a really philosophical question, but around
here we believe that to a large extent, the US
has become a country that is just too comfortable with
the status quo. And all agents of change seem like
dangerous and frightening. Which is not to say if a
guy's an outright lunatic you need to embrace him because
he's quote unquote an agent of change.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But boy, we feel like an overripe fruit to me.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
And I think a change would be welcome at least
give it a try.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
Yeah, And I'm concerned about, once again our lack of
creativity of what our enemies can do to us and
anything from bringing commercial ships along our coastlines and have
them become trojan horses for missile attacks. There's lots of
things that I'm not sure that we're really defending where
we could be falling asleep at the switch in a
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lot of ways. So the but but it takes, it
takes this change from the top. It's going to take
the change from Donald Trump on through. There's no question
when Pete Hegg said, if he gets to the Pentagon,
it becomes sect deaf. We'll have intention of accomplishing his
objectives and they'll be they'll be crystal cleared everybody around him.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
You'll know how to act in the absence of any
kind of guidance.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
And so I think that that he'll do that.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
Then Number two, the other thing that we needed that
he needs to do is budgetary and get get the
military back online with We've given a lot of equipment
to Ukraine, We've given a lot of equipment out and
I think we need we need to go back to
a little bit of a war footing right now and
restock some of the things that we've had because we've
we've been giving it away. I think that's another important
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mission for him to do well.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
So some of the pushback on him is, you know,
never having run a giant organization like this and who
has it's the biggest bureaucracy in the world. But like
if you were given that job, would that be something
you could figure out?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Or how do you see that knock on him?
Speaker 7 (10:02):
Well, I think he's going to have to pick subordinates
that maybe have a little bit of that experience.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
We'll see that.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
That'll be the telling sign is who's who the Deputy
Secretary of Defenses will be in these different areas.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
They won't be from the swamp.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I will tell you that there'll be individuals that you know,
maybe will come from some of the think tanks that
are out there. Maybe they will come from the retired
military ranks. I mean he knows, he knows high ranking
general officers. He does know who they are, and he'll
he'll pick probably some of them. So it's not just
going to be him alone, I think, And you're right,
that's that's the knock on him. But you can argue
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the greatest strength greatest weakness in that regard, so that
could be something that could that could become to his
strength as well.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
He won't.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
He's not beholden to anybody. He's not beholden to the
deustrial military complex.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
He's not beholding anybody. So we'll see how he goes.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
I would rather see a fighter and agent of change
who employs bureaucratic experts than a bureaucratic expert at the
top who then chooses, you know, people or arguably involved
in the fighting. Mike, we didn't really get a chance
to get into China much. They are obviously gearing up
as fast as they can to take us on, but
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perhaps another day.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
We appreciate the time very much. Thanks sure, guys, thanks
for ha me yep.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Of course, boy, that is really something. Zelensky did an
interview yesterday and he is making all kinds of positive
noise about Trump taking over as president and his ability
to wind a war down, everything like that. I don't
know if that's just recognizing that Trump's the guy now,
so I.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Want to be on a good side.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Trump responds to flattery obviously, and also,
and Zelensky is smart enough to have discerned this that
Trump is a tough guy, and if Zelensky can spin it,
that man does Putent think he can push the US around?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
That's something You're a punk, right, yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
He said Biden punk, which he is, by the way,
don't say I said that Biden punk. And he thinks
you're a punk too, mister Trump, what do you say
to that?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
The economists reporting last week, I didn't get to it
that Zolensky could be in political trouble next presidential election.
There's somebody gonna run against him that is very well
liked in the country, and Zelensky's ratings are down just
because people are tired of the war.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Which happens. Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Asked Winston Churchill about that. Yeah, it happens. Yeah, God dang.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
It's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.
The idea that the attackers that Biden just gave the
go ahead won't make any difference is highly troubling. Obviously,
the idea of North Korean troops by the tens of
thousands showing up in the war is highly troubling.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Good lord, I.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Wonder if that's actually happening or is that a threat?
You say South Korea is talking about it.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Huh, they broke the story in every legit news service
is reporting it today.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
That South Korea is saying it, or that it's actually happening.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
That it is going to happen. It's not happening yet.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Okay, Yeah, I'm I'm always wary of the comy effect
where you got that what's it called the circular logic
or backbiting or what's good for the goose where you
leak a story and then confirm it in the press.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Elon Musk with a controversial T shirt at the Big
Wrestling match at Madison Square Garden, among other things.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
On the Way Stay Tuned, referee Marc.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
Alloy warning Paul not to measure, but he measured him
and then he hit him with her right along Tyson
coming forward, but Paul is landing the cleaner effective bunchet
we got two final minutes. Man Tyson greeding heavily as
he makes his way back to the corner.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, because he's old. I think that was like.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Round two where he was breathing so heavily. He walked
like an old man man the first after the first round,
he walked like an old man back to the stool,
sat down, wide, eye was just his chest was just heaving.
I thought, oh my god, if you're this tired after
the first two minutes, did you actually train or is
this just the problem with being your age or what?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I don't know, little of both.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Anybody who's ever seen a fight or been in a
fight knows it's tiring and in a hurry.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
And what was the deal with the announcer was like
way over the top in terms of trying to make jokes.
Then you got Roy Jones Junior, who's a real boxer,
kept saying.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I don't like his legs. I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I don't like his legs because like Tyson is shuffled
around like an old man out there. And then and
then Rosie Prez as the other color person, Rosie Perez,
who everybody wants for the big boxing matches for some reason.
I don't know what that was starlet of the early nineties. Yeah,
I don't know what the heck that was. Sixty one
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million people watched the fight on Friday night. That is
a crazy number in the modern era where you know,
the Grammys gets eighteen, the Oscars gets twenty. I mean,
that's just an insane number. Uh. And you know, if
you were watching it, you know how the whole Netflix
thing was just not working.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It was buffering or he couldn't log on at all.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
And I got texts from everybody I knew, like, is
you're working on your TV? No?
Speaker 9 (15:21):
Not?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
And then I went on Twitter and the whole country
was going nuts over and the CEO of Twitter put
out a statement Saturday night and said, well, it looks
like the crowd was so big it had our buffer
system on the ropes, cool boxing joke. Everybody was pissed off.
It's not like you had to It's not like pay
per view where you paid for it. Be did pay
for it with your time and you know, scheduled your
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night around it like lots of us did.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, if you have.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
A TV channel that doesn't show the TV show, that's
not a very good TV channel.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And I thought, geezu.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
And they kept running promos for their NFL because they're
gonna have NFL games on Netflix live streaming on Christmas Day,
some big games chiefs game, and I thought, this is
not a good advertisement for your big NFL game unless
you get a much better server.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah yeah, wow. So what did you think of the
main debacle?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I mean, event, if I was going to talk about boxing,
i'd talk about that fight before. And that's what me
and all my friends who saw that, the fight right
before the championship fight with the best female fighter in
the world. That was one of the best boxing matches
I've ever seen in my life. But it was so bloody.
And this is the first time I've watched boxing in
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four K. That's gruesome. When I was a kid watching
Muhammad Ali, if there was a cut, you couldn't like
see into their head in the way. I mean, it
wasn't like looking at a cut like you know you
do in real life. It was just it was so
that chick's forehead split open. My son didn't even look
at it on our TV eight and oh that.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Was oh so much blood old.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Being beaten by the young women punching each other in
the face.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
That's that's great.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
That's a little super little Roman empire ish you think
on a Friday night. Well, that's two women bloodied each other.
Now let's watch the old man get beat up. Yeah yeah,
little Roman Empire.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
What daddy? No lions? Sorry, Sonstrong.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
And I'm just trying to take in, uh, you know,
media over the last several days, including today, the.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
The how fired up people are about RFK Junior. Why
is that such a why is that such a lightning
rod point? What is it about that? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
As opposed to other controversial figures there would be cabinet members.
Speaker 9 (17:45):
Right.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Gates, I get attorney general, and the fact that he
might have had sex with a high school girl.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Maybe it's that there's an argument to be made in
favor of RFK Junior and it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
And in my opinion, the art the arguments against him
are pretty good too. Well.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Yeah, we talked about this last week. He is a
abortion up until birth guy and always has been.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
It's a it's a he's got a horrible personal life.
His first wife killed herself because of all of his affairs,
so I know.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
But anyway, there's the whole COVID.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
He hinted it it was targeting whites and blacks for
the benefit of Jews and Chinese, right right, that's.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
A little uncomfortable, it's a little wacky.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Well, I don't know if you watch Morning Joe featuring
Neville Scarborough Chamberlain who's just recently gone to beg for
Hitler's approval and his wife Mika.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Now good nick hmm.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
They flew down to mar A Lago to meet with
the big guy and are getting hammered for it for
good reason.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
So in case you don't know this, and you shouldn't,
you probably don't watch him. It shouldn't bec in the morning,
And why freaking would you. But the hosts who used
to just be co hosts, then they had an affair
and dumped their spouses and married each other. But now
they're married, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brasinski, and they had
Trump on all the time when he first announced back
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in twenty fifteen, they were old friends.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Then it went south and then he out of their.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Affair and put out some stuff about Joe Scarborough being
responsible for the death of his intern and all kinds
of stuff that really turned the morning show on MSNBC
against Trump, and they've hated him so much, and it's
been the only story they talk about now for eight
years is how awful Trump is and he's hitler. But
for whatever reason, they went down to mar A Lago
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and talked to them over the over the weekend, and
here's a little bit of that conversation from this morning.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Joe and I went to mar A Lago to meet
personally with President like Trump.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
What we did agree on was.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
To restart communications. And for those asking why we would
go speak to the President elect during such fraught times,
especially between us, I guess I would ask back, why
wouldn't we?
Speaker 9 (20:14):
And it's going to come as no surprise to anybody
who watches this show, has watched it over the past
year or over the past decade, that we didn't see
eye to eye on a lot of issues, and we
told him so.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Joe and I realized it's time to do something different,
and that starts with not only talking about Donald Trump,
but also talking with him.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Yeah, okay, you've lost half your viewers. I didn't realize
being hitler is an issue. Among the issues we're prepared
to discuss is you're hitler.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I love this from I mean, I like her saying
we've decided to restart communications. Wow, could you be more
so important than that? It's like China and the United
States are starting to talk again. Mika Brazinski's gonna start
talking to Trump again. Whatever, good Lord, get over yourselves. Geez, yeah,
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no kidding.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
So uh.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Scott Jennings, who's been terrific on the soon to be
defunct CNN, among many commentators who said something the effective
he said specifically, he was quote Hitler getting a lot
more meeting requests than I would have thought. That's a
good one. The fabulous Byron York Annals of Shamelessness. They
call Trump a fascist and much much more, and then
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just twenty two days after his Nazi like Crowley, they
fly to Florida for on audience.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
That's a good point.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
It was their network that ran the video, the black
and white Ku Kuks Clan video from nineteen thirty nine
about Trump's rally, and now they're going to meet with
him to re establish communications, which is the most pretentious
thing I've ever heard out of any host ever. Oh
my god, right, it's like Dayton with.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
The Soviet Union or something.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Oh, Eli Lake terrific columnist for The Free Press wrote,
quite quote, why would Trump bother talking to these people
other than to urge them to seek mental health counseling.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
That's what I thought when she said we've decided. You
might be asking why we decided to restart community. No
better question is why would he give you any time?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And why are you telling us this? We don't care?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Well, I assume it's got something to do with half
of America voted for the guy. You might want to
be able to, you know, get into the heads of
half the freaking country.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Yeah, I mean that would be a thoroughly defensible point
of view. And honestly, I think Joe, I don't know,
Mikus strikes me as a bit of adult, But Joe
Scarbaro is a very strategic guy, and he's a very
very bright guy.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
He chose a role, he chose an approach he's got
to show.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Yeah, he've goten incredibly wealthy and famous with the approach.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
But to your point, he sees that and thinks, hmm,
what's the strategic way forward? One more quick reaction my
main point than some more just for fun. But somebody said,
once again, Democrats never actually thought Trump was Hitler or
a fascist dictator or anything like that. If you were propagandized,
it's okay, you got played. But I you know, I
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would like to point out I would like to get
like a one day pass from Elon Musk to tweet
to all of these people who are on Twitter and
TikTok and Instagram, whatever, explaining how they've now cut off
their family for voting right for Trump. I would like
to point out to them, Hey, that propaganda. You bought,
that rhetoric. You accepted. The people who convinced you it
(23:45):
was true, never believed it. Don't tell your dad, you're
never going to talk to him again. They exploited you
for their profit and you believed them.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, that's you know, Like I said last week, that's
what I'm hoping comes out of this as we have
the next generation of young people that will head into
adulthood realizing, oh, they claim it's an him as a
Nazi and Hitler and all this stuff, and then as
soon as the election's over, you just go back to
business as usual.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Oh okay, it's a rude.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
So now you all know it too, Like it took
me a while to figure it out, because when you're young,
you think this actually is the most important election ever.
All the people I care about are telling me this
is the most important election. The country's gonna be over
if it goes the wrong way. Yeah, no, kid, You're
not gonna talk to your dad anymore. Did you see
Joe Biden sitting there smiling, shaking hands with Trump, and
Joe and Mika.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Going down there to talk to him. What are you
talking about? How do you square those things? Friends?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Seriously, take a moment and think about it. This is
not a trick question, you know. One loyal viewer says,
gutted by Joe and Mika this morning. Gutted, total capitulation
after years of railing about his lack of fitness, not
even an interview to show their journalistic integrity, just to
pure kiss the ring session. Disappointed and done with them
(24:59):
in their show. You're getting close, You're getting closer. The
problem isn't that they're meeting with Trump. The problem is
that the rest of it was pretend right right right?
This isn't, you know, some sort of departure from their principles.
(25:20):
These are their principles again, Where does that leave you?
Having believed them and cut off your family, you know,
if you wanted to attack Joe Scarborough and his wife.
And again, I realize most of you don't. Ever, you've
never seen one second of the show ever, I realize,
And that's good, But god, you could play so many
(25:40):
clips of them saying over the top things where it'd
be legit to then ask them, how did you sit
in the same room with this guy, who you see
is one of the most evil people on the planet,
who only cares about destroying the country, making sure women
have no rights.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
He's racist?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Can you possibly sit down and have a conversation with them? Well,
it's because they didn't believe it in that stuff they said.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Is how right? Yeah? Entertainment, news ertainment.
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Speaker 4 (27:15):
I'm pretty tired of the looking back over the presidential election,
but I thought this article in the New York Times
how Kamala Harris burned through one point five billion dollars
in fifteen weeks was pretty entertaining.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Maybe we got to get into that a little bit
water how it helped her win. Oh that's right.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Oh no, she burned through one point five billion dollars
in fifteen weeks, according to New York Times, she was
averaging one hundred million dollars a week on spending.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Nobody's ever spent anything even close to them that amount
of money, even in a.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Winning campaign, right right, which says something about money in politics.
I mean, you can put like five hundred dollars or
two blips kind of pig and it's still around squealing.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Well, as The New York Times points out, she spent
all that money and became the first Democratic presidential candidate
to lose the popular vote in two decades.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Says if she was a terrible candidate and everyone knew
it all along. Wow, there's a viral video out now
where it's Tim Walls.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
It's some you remember him. That was funny, wasn't it? Anyway?
Speaker 5 (28:26):
So Tim Walls is during the campaign, he's given his
speech about a one thing I can't fuck him those
people for is they've stolen the joy from America.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
We have the joy. They're dark and ugly enough of them.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
And then it cuts to everybody doing the Trump dance
in the NFL and college.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
That's it on TV and just so, man, that's pretty funny.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Washington Post with a story out Today, athletes are beginning
to celebrate their wins and goals by dancing like President Trump.
I've seen everyone do it, said Las Vegas raiders Rock
Bauers told USA Today, it's funny, it's ex weeing its
all of sports.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
According a nactual NFL guy, Hannah, you wouln't think people
be doing the Hitler dance, no matter how great a
movie he had. You know, if Hitler did the moon walk,
you wouldn't see people doing the Hey, you can dance
just like Hitler. No, no, that would not be a thing.
As the kids, I just hope all the youngsters and
(29:26):
crazy ass soft headed left be cynical. Well a call
their dads and their moms and their siblings and their
old friends and wake up from your fever dream and
be realize, Hey, they're trying to whip you up, to
manipulate you to get your votes and your viewership and
your money. Wise up, Yeah, get more cynical, get less dopey.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Well, I'm looking at the picture at the big UFC
fight with Trump and Kid Rock. Everybody in the crowd
churn That seems like a jelly roll. That seemed like
some joy there.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Kid Rock really the girring of hip hop jack Kid
Rock really looking too.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Old for his outfit in some pictures. At some point
you age out of your your wacky clothes, Elon wearing
a T shirt that said occupy Mars, which I found
hilarious to me.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
That is hilarious to me. You go with your look
until the grave.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Oh why not? Yeah, you're a major stop Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
I mean, can you imagine the Kid Rock in naval
high slacks and a cardigan.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
It's just it's not right. I see you see he's
still doing it. That's quite the crew for Trump to
walk into that match, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Imagine trying to explain to somebody ten years ago, all right,
here's the deal, and you go through that list of
Elon Musk Okay, all right, I'm tracking with you and
Kid Rock what and RFK Junior?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Whoa wait what now? Oh right? That would be developed.
Oh we got a lot more on the way.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
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that over the course of one hundred and eighty million years,
the Y chromosome has declined, and that men could go
extinct in six million years.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah, So ladies hanging in there, you'll get your little president.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
You know, Oh, crowd aghast.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
What I mostly thought was interesting in that joke was
men will go extinct in the crowd cheering.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
That that particularly gals, It seemed like that whole view
of men.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
We got to turn that around as a country somehow
for my sons as they head out into the world.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Oh yeah, that's that's a real divide among women. Do
you believe to be pro woman is to be anti man?
What an insane point of view.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I got more misogyny in a second.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
But first, if you listen in the Bay area of
San Francisco, we have been on five sixty AM for
quite a few years. Well, we're now on both five
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Eight ten legendary, and we're happy to be on it.
And so switch over to eighten at some point.
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Speaker 4 (32:42):
I guess this isn't misogyny. I just think it's dumb,
so the you promised misogyny the big boxing match, Tyson
landed eighteen punches in.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
The entire fight. How many rounds did it go?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Six two minute rounds? Plenty eighteen punches total. I mean,
that is not much of a fight. He was so
tired though. He got punched in the face really hard
a couple of times, and to his credit as a
guy who's about sixty, didn't fall over. And I think
Jake Paul realized if I knock out this old man
in front of the entire crowd was clearly rooting for
(33:21):
Mike Tyson.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I mean, wasn't even a question. It would have been
awful for him.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
He's a businessman, he's a guy who's figured out to
become a gazillionaire. As a really annoying him and his brother,
I couldn't hate them more. I hate the whole influencer, Instagram,
sensation YouTube thing in general, and they are the key
to it.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I mean, they're just ahead of it. I like the
prom King and Queen of it, of.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Just do outrageous stupid things to get attention and become rich.
I hate that old thing. Speaking of which, in the
boxing match, as they always do in boxing matches, they
have really hot chicks in skimpy outfits who stand there
and smile in their fake hooters, and this one tall blonde.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
And bring the number of the round around the ring. Girls. Yes, yeah,
these girls got most attention.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
This one particular girl got most pretention just for standing
behind the people as everybody was talking, and she became
an instant sensation. I'm not even gonna say her name
because I don't want to promote her, but uh, I
mean you couldn't look at the screen and not notice her.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
She was quite noticeable.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
But she now has like five million Instagram followers and
sixteen million TikTok videos and whatever.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Right, so weird? Who are you dudes who start following
someone on Instagram because it's.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
A slightly different and I mean slightly different hot blonde chick.
Speaker 9 (34:42):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Well, unlike my misogynist friend, I'm not outraged or offended
by any of this, but I will tell you this,
Dear cash In, now hire an agent today by noon.
Sign any contract put in front of you, no matter
the terms, and make your money now.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Or reply to all those rich dudes who are reaching
out to you and see if one of them is
nice enough to want to marry.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Signed that really cute girl at the Masters a couple
of years ago. See seeing the super cute girl at
the Tennessee football game who was on camera for ten seconds?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Remember no, no no, the hot guard at one of
the Trump trials of the Cops. She became cute cops.
She became something for a while. Yeah, you better cash
in like next day. I just I don't blame her.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
That's what She's attractive and she's trying to figure out
how to make a living off the fact that she
was blessed being attractive.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
You dudes, though, who follow her on Instagram? What is
your thing? Can I buy your time?
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Goodness?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
You have nothing else to do with your life? Then
follow yet another hot chick and look at her in
her clothes? What the hell?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Or out of them?
Speaker 5 (35:52):
She might get an OnlyFans account jack or sell her
underwear god knows what in this six sick world. Uh,
but I think that the dudes, they're taking it a
lot less Seriously, this looks she's a really cute girl
who's just a skinny, blonde girl with big boobs, imagine,
and they'll check out her Instagram and then next.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Week on to somebody else. Wow.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I wonder what the process is to become that person
in the boxing match. I wonder if that was pretty cutthroat,
because turned out to be fairly lucrative for her.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
A lot more to come Next Hour. If you don't
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Benny woolweary Ukrainians now, except they're unlikely to retake some
of the land that Russia's annexed, like Crimea, and Putin's
un likely to settle without it.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
But Ukraine is going to need meaningful.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Security guarantees that Putin would break agreements and attack again
as he has done before for the first time. President
Joe Biden also I think Ukraine to use long range
US missiles to strike Russia, A studying change in policies
a major factor in the decision. US officials say ten
thousand North Korean troops arriving in Russia to fight alongside
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the Russians.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
He and the reporting today from everyone coming out of
South Korea that North Korea might be sending one hundred
thousand troops to Russia, a one hundred thousand, which is
really something in The New York Times saying today that
the whole Biden allowing the new weaponry is all about
(01:18):
shoring up Ukraine before Trump comes in because he's worried
Trump is going to be, you know, less supportive of Ukraine.
What kind of theory is that you either support Ukraine?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Are you not?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Your timetables shouldn't be based on whether or not Trump's
coming in.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I don't get that at all.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Well, yeah, let's not get starting about the Biden Ford
and policy in their support for Ukraine. Let's talk to
military analyst Mike Lyons about this topic and a couple
of others.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
There's a great deal to discuss. Mike, Hi, how are.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
You hey, Good morning guys. Great to be back with you.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
So well, these attack them weapons now that they can
fire him into Russia make much difference.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
No, they really won't. It's also, you know, dayly eight
dollars short. And it just goes to show you that
this administration has not allowed Ukraine to fight this war.
They've just tried to manage it. And what we've managed
is the slow demise and the degradation of Ukraine's military assets.
We've allowed Ukraine nothing when it comes to going on
(02:16):
the offensive, and it's allowed Russia to rearm refit itself
when those times when Ukraine was just trying to seize
the initiative.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
So at this point to your point before. It has
to do with trying to trump proof this.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
They're getting as many pieces of equipment I guess to
Ukraine as possible attackers are just deep artillery fires that
can go well into Russia. They'll target let's say, airstrips
and logistic facilities, and they're only allowed to be used
in the Curse region.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Once again, I.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
Don't understand either. They've also put that restriction on them
as well. You still don't see storm shadow from the bridge,
you still don't see other weapons coming from NATO. So
the bottom line is it's going to make no difference whatsoever,
and we're all it's just getting to the point of
when the trumpetdministration is going to come in and seeing
what they're going to.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Do, just out of curiosity, Mike.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
We get the argument via email, text, whatever from folks
are of the more JD vans Ukraine is not our
problem philosophy saying hey, we're going to cause World War
three for something that's not in our strategic interests.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
How do you respond to them?
Speaker 7 (03:18):
I think strategically have to look at this as deterrence
and as the fact of if you're going by an
order that says one country can invade its neighbor. But
we're past that now, four years, three years past that
time of trying to re establish it. It's going to
have to be established, you know, quickly. I think it's
starting to be re established in the Middle East, for example,
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what the Trump administration coming in, going to allow Israel
to I believe, going to attack Iranian nuclear facility. But no,
it is our problem, it's Europe's problem. It's something that
we have to take the lead on and the like.
I don't think we need to against send American soldiers,
but we could have supported Ukraine initially from the beginning.
This drip drip drip of how we've supported them and
(04:00):
how again, it's been about managing this as opposed to
letting Ukraine fight the war. So to say that it's
not necessarily our problem is not really the whole truth.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Russia had their worst month of the entire war. This
past month lost nearly fifteen hundred men a day casualties.
That's a stunning number. And now the reporting today one
hundred thousand North Korean troops maybe on the way. How
do you react all that stuff?
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Yeah, I don't know how one hundred thousand troops are
going to get there. I mean, it's a long train
ride from wherever they're coming from. So there's that's a
pretty big logistical challenge. It would take them months for.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
That to happen.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
But the ones that are there, they could become targeted.
Let's say those take attackers could be targeting those military
areas where they think that those troops are going to be,
and those guys are going to get there and find
out very quickly that this is the last place in
the world they want to be.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
So I don't know.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
I think that there's a lot of a lot of
logistics to still figure out whether how you're going to
get one hundred thousand troops from, you know, versusly that
part of the world, from North Korea into Russia in
a manner and then get them to the battlefield.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
That seems a pretty long long task to get a compus.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
But just in general, the idea of North Korean troops
using Iranian weapons while Russia is funded by Chinese money,
that's a lot of countries involved in a war.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Oh yeah, who had that in their Bengal card for
this year?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Right?
Speaker 7 (05:23):
North Korean troops inside of Russia fighting against Ukraine.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
No one did.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
And this is exactly what this Biden administration is allowed
to happen. It's allowed this access of these allies between
Russia and China. I think India is now more aligned
with China than they've ever been before. North Korea, Iran,
and then the Huthis still as the Russians can still
fund things that are going on for the Huthis to
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attack Americans.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
So the terrence needs to be re established very quickly.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
In the new Trump administration, I think you're going to
see them try to do that.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
They'll do it in both ways.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
I think carrot and stick in this way in Ukraine
in particular, they'll try to do a business deal. I
think they'll try to convince Russia that they don't want
to be this vassal state of China. I think that
deep down that's kind of what's going on right now,
and Russia precedes itself to be a world power. I
think I think Donald Trump will try to make a
deal with the Russians and a business like transaction to
(06:19):
kind of, you know, kind of pay them off for
stopping the war and then allow them this latitude to
potentially become a great world power again, and vladimber Putin
might go for that.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
We'll see.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Yeah, studying the frenemy ship of China and Russia through
the decades is a really interesting thing, and I love
the idea of trying to drive a wedge as we
have in the past. But closer to home, Jack, did
you want to get into the SECT deaf thing?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we saw.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I saw you tweet something in support of people of
your rank with Exeth being named the candidate for SECT.
Have you guys had the same rank?
Speaker 7 (06:56):
Yeah, we were retired army major, so I thought that
was pretty funny there.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
I've met Pete a couple of times.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
I don't know him that well or anything like that,
but he's a smart guy, disruptive type individual. I think
once he gets to you know, to the Pentagon, hopefully
he'd make it there. But he'll bring this perspective of
I think, being closer to the troops, and I think
that the general officers talk a good game about it,
but frankly ours are so far removed of it. They're
(07:22):
thinking about strategy, and they're thinking about things at such
a high level. I think right now he's it would
be an individual that I think would work out well
from a disruptive capability. You know, Pete Hex that's going
to go into the Pentagon and put a sign in
every conference room in the Pentagon that says the priority
of the militaries to fight and win the nation's wars,
And every meeting that takes place in that conference room
(07:43):
is going to say, well, if the if the purpose
of this meeting is not to accomplish that objective, we're
not meeting, we're not talking about it. So I think
you're going to see a lot of things go by
the wayside. Frankly that this administration has tried to force
through the military the past four years. They've used the
military as social reinjeering at something unfortunately Democrats have done
in the past, as opposed to trying to recognize that
(08:05):
the military reflects society but then not become an experiment
for society. So I think I think that he'll look
to change a lot of those kinds of things.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
I realized this is a really philosophical question, but around
here we believe that to a large extent, the US
has become a country that is just too comfortable with
the status quo. And all agents of change seem like
dangerous and frightening. Which is not to say if a
guy's an outright lunatic you need to embrace him because
he's quote unquote an agent of change.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But boy, we feel like an overripe fruit to me.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
And I think a change would be welcome at least
give it a try.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
Yeah, And I'm concerned about, once again our lack of
creativity of what our enemies can do to us and
anything from bringing commercial ships along our coastlines and have
them become trojan horses for missile attacks. There's lots of
things that I'm not sure that we're really defending where
we could be falling asleep at the switch in a
(09:02):
lot of ways. So the but but it takes, it
takes this change from the top. It's going to take
the change from Donald Trump on through. There's no question
when Pete Hegg said, if he gets to the Pentagon,
it becomes sect deaf. We'll have intention of accomplishing his
objectives and they'll be they'll be crystal cleared everybody around him.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
You'll know how to act in the absence of any
kind of guidance.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
And so I think that that he'll do that.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
Then Number two, the other thing that we needed that
he needs to do is budgetary and get get the
military back online with We've given a lot of equipment
to Ukraine, We've given a lot of equipment out and
I think we need we need to go back to
a little bit of a war footing right now and
restock some of the things that we've had because we've
we've been giving it away. I think that's another important
(09:44):
mission for him to do well.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
So some of the pushback on him is, you know,
never having run a giant organization like this and who
has it's the biggest bureaucracy in the world. But like
if you were given that job, would that be something
you could figure out?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Or how do you see that knock on him?
Speaker 7 (10:02):
Well, I think he's going to have to pick subordinates
that maybe have a little bit of that experience.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
We'll see that.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
That'll be the telling sign is who's who the Deputy
Secretary of Defenses will be in these different areas.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
They won't be from the swamp.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I will tell you that there'll be individuals that you know,
maybe will come from some of the think tanks that
are out there. Maybe they will come from the retired
military ranks. I mean he knows, he knows high ranking
general officers. He does know who they are, and he'll
he'll pick probably some of them. So it's not just
going to be him alone, I think, And you're right,
that's that's the knock on him. But you can argue
(10:37):
the greatest strength greatest weakness in that regard, so that
could be something that could that could become to his
strength as well.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
He won't.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
He's not beholden to anybody. He's not beholden to the
deustrial military complex.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
He's not beholding anybody. So we'll see how he goes.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
I would rather see a fighter and agent of change
who employs bureaucratic experts than a bureaucratic expert at the
top who then chooses, you know, people or arguably involved
in the fighting. Mike, we didn't really get a chance
to get into China much. They are obviously gearing up
as fast as they can to take us on, but
(11:09):
perhaps another day.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
We appreciate the time very much. Thanks sure, guys, thanks
for ha me yep.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Of course, boy, that is really something. Zelensky did an
interview yesterday and he is making all kinds of positive
noise about Trump taking over as president and his ability
to wind a war down, everything like that. I don't
know if that's just recognizing that Trump's the guy now,
so I.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Want to be on a good side.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Trump responds to flattery obviously, and also,
and Zelensky is smart enough to have discerned this that
Trump is a tough guy, and if Zelensky can spin it,
that man does Putent think he can push the US around?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
That's something You're a punk, right, yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
He said Biden punk, which he is, by the way,
don't say I said that Biden punk. And he thinks
you're a punk too, mister Trump, what do you say
to that?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
The economists reporting last week, I didn't get to it
that Zolensky could be in political trouble next presidential election.
There's somebody gonna run against him that is very well
liked in the country, and Zelensky's ratings are down just
because people are tired of the war.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Which happens. Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Asked Winston Churchill about that. Yeah, it happens. Yeah, God dang.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
It's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.
The idea that the attackers that Biden just gave the
go ahead won't make any difference is highly troubling. Obviously,
the idea of North Korean troops by the tens of
thousands showing up in the war is highly troubling.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Good lord, I.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Wonder if that's actually happening or is that a threat?
You say South Korea is talking about it.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Huh, they broke the story in every legit news service
is reporting it today.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
That South Korea is saying it, or that it's actually happening.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
That it is going to happen. It's not happening yet.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Okay, Yeah, I'm I'm always wary of the comy effect
where you got that what's it called the circular logic
or backbiting or what's good for the goose where you
leak a story and then confirm it in the press.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Elon Musk with a controversial T shirt at the Big
Wrestling match at Madison Square Garden, among other things.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
On the Way Stay Tuned, referee Marc.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
Alloy warning Paul not to measure, but he measured him
and then he hit him with her right along Tyson
coming forward, but Paul is landing the cleaner effective bunchet
we got two final minutes. Man Tyson greeding heavily as
he makes his way back to the corner.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, because he's old. I think that was like.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Round two where he was breathing so heavily. He walked
like an old man man the first after the first round,
he walked like an old man back to the stool,
sat down, wide, eye was just his chest was just heaving.
I thought, oh my god, if you're this tired after
the first two minutes, did you actually train or is
this just the problem with being your age or what?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I don't know, little of both.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Anybody who's ever seen a fight or been in a
fight knows it's tiring and in a hurry.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
And what was the deal with the announcer was like
way over the top in terms of trying to make jokes.
Then you got Roy Jones Junior, who's a real boxer,
kept saying.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I don't like his legs. I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I don't like his legs because like Tyson is shuffled
around like an old man out there. And then and
then Rosie Prez as the other color person, Rosie Perez,
who everybody wants for the big boxing matches for some reason.
I don't know what that was starlet of the early nineties. Yeah,
I don't know what the heck that was. Sixty one
(14:55):
million people watched the fight on Friday night. That is
a crazy number in the modern era where you know,
the Grammys gets eighteen, the Oscars gets twenty. I mean,
that's just an insane number. Uh. And you know, if
you were watching it, you know how the whole Netflix
thing was just not working.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It was buffering or he couldn't log on at all.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
And I got texts from everybody I knew, like, is
you're working on your TV? No?
Speaker 9 (15:21):
Not?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
And then I went on Twitter and the whole country
was going nuts over and the CEO of Twitter put
out a statement Saturday night and said, well, it looks
like the crowd was so big it had our buffer
system on the ropes, cool boxing joke. Everybody was pissed off.
It's not like you had to It's not like pay
per view where you paid for it. Be did pay
for it with your time and you know, scheduled your
(15:44):
night around it like lots of us did.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, if you have.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
A TV channel that doesn't show the TV show, that's
not a very good TV channel.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And I thought, geezu.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
And they kept running promos for their NFL because they're
gonna have NFL games on Netflix live streaming on Christmas Day,
some big games chiefs game, and I thought, this is
not a good advertisement for your big NFL game unless
you get a much better server.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah yeah, wow. So what did you think of the
main debacle?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I mean, event, if I was going to talk about boxing,
i'd talk about that fight before. And that's what me
and all my friends who saw that, the fight right
before the championship fight with the best female fighter in
the world. That was one of the best boxing matches
I've ever seen in my life. But it was so bloody.
And this is the first time I've watched boxing in
(16:32):
four K. That's gruesome. When I was a kid watching
Muhammad Ali, if there was a cut, you couldn't like
see into their head in the way. I mean, it
wasn't like looking at a cut like you know you
do in real life. It was just it was so
that chick's forehead split open. My son didn't even look
at it on our TV eight and oh that.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Was oh so much blood old.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Being beaten by the young women punching each other in
the face.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
That's that's great.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
That's a little super little Roman empire ish you think
on a Friday night. Well, that's two women bloodied each other.
Now let's watch the old man get beat up. Yeah yeah,
little Roman Empire.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
What daddy? No lions? Sorry, Sonstrong.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
And I'm just trying to take in, uh, you know,
media over the last several days, including today, the.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
The how fired up people are about RFK Junior. Why
is that such a why is that such a lightning
rod point? What is it about that? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
As opposed to other controversial figures there would be cabinet members.
Speaker 9 (17:45):
Right.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Gates, I get attorney general, and the fact that he
might have had sex with a high school girl.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Maybe it's that there's an argument to be made in
favor of RFK Junior and it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
And in my opinion, the art the arguments against him
are pretty good too. Well.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Yeah, we talked about this last week. He is a
abortion up until birth guy and always has been.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
It's a it's a he's got a horrible personal life.
His first wife killed herself because of all of his affairs,
so I know.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
But anyway, there's the whole COVID.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
He hinted it it was targeting whites and blacks for
the benefit of Jews and Chinese, right right, that's.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
A little uncomfortable, it's a little wacky.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Well, I don't know if you watch Morning Joe featuring
Neville Scarborough Chamberlain who's just recently gone to beg for
Hitler's approval and his wife Mika.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Now good nick hmm.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
They flew down to mar A Lago to meet with
the big guy and are getting hammered for it for
good reason.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
So in case you don't know this, and you shouldn't,
you probably don't watch him. It shouldn't bec in the morning,
And why freaking would you. But the hosts who used
to just be co hosts, then they had an affair
and dumped their spouses and married each other. But now
they're married, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brasinski, and they had
Trump on all the time when he first announced back
(19:19):
in twenty fifteen, they were old friends.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Then it went south and then he out of their.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Affair and put out some stuff about Joe Scarborough being
responsible for the death of his intern and all kinds
of stuff that really turned the morning show on MSNBC
against Trump, and they've hated him so much, and it's
been the only story they talk about now for eight
years is how awful Trump is and he's hitler. But
for whatever reason, they went down to mar A Lago
(19:48):
and talked to them over the over the weekend, and
here's a little bit of that conversation from this morning.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Joe and I went to mar A Lago to meet
personally with President like Trump.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
What we did agree on was.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
To restart communications. And for those asking why we would
go speak to the President elect during such fraught times,
especially between us, I guess I would ask back, why
wouldn't we?
Speaker 9 (20:14):
And it's going to come as no surprise to anybody
who watches this show, has watched it over the past
year or over the past decade, that we didn't see
eye to eye on a lot of issues, and we
told him so.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Joe and I realized it's time to do something different,
and that starts with not only talking about Donald Trump,
but also talking with him.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Yeah, okay, you've lost half your viewers. I didn't realize
being hitler is an issue. Among the issues we're prepared
to discuss is you're hitler.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I love this from I mean, I like her saying
we've decided to restart communications. Wow, could you be more
so important than that? It's like China and the United
States are starting to talk again. Mika Brazinski's gonna start
talking to Trump again. Whatever, good Lord, get over yourselves. Geez, yeah,
(21:11):
no kidding.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
So uh.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Scott Jennings, who's been terrific on the soon to be
defunct CNN, among many commentators who said something the effective
he said specifically, he was quote Hitler getting a lot
more meeting requests than I would have thought. That's a
good one. The fabulous Byron York Annals of Shamelessness. They
call Trump a fascist and much much more, and then
(21:35):
just twenty two days after his Nazi like Crowley, they
fly to Florida for on audience.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
That's a good point.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
It was their network that ran the video, the black
and white Ku Kuks Clan video from nineteen thirty nine
about Trump's rally, and now they're going to meet with
him to re establish communications, which is the most pretentious
thing I've ever heard out of any host ever. Oh
my god, right, it's like Dayton with.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
The Soviet Union or something.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Oh, Eli Lake terrific columnist for The Free Press wrote,
quite quote, why would Trump bother talking to these people
other than to urge them to seek mental health counseling.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
That's what I thought when she said we've decided. You
might be asking why we decided to restart community. No
better question is why would he give you any time?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And why are you telling us this? We don't care?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Well, I assume it's got something to do with half
of America voted for the guy. You might want to
be able to, you know, get into the heads of
half the freaking country.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Yeah, I mean that would be a thoroughly defensible point
of view. And honestly, I think Joe, I don't know,
Mikus strikes me as a bit of adult, But Joe
Scarbaro is a very strategic guy, and he's a very
very bright guy.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
He chose a role, he chose an approach he's got
to show.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Yeah, he've goten incredibly wealthy and famous with the approach.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
But to your point, he sees that and thinks, hmm,
what's the strategic way forward? One more quick reaction my
main point than some more just for fun. But somebody said,
once again, Democrats never actually thought Trump was Hitler or
a fascist dictator or anything like that. If you were propagandized,
it's okay, you got played. But I you know, I
(23:22):
would like to point out I would like to get
like a one day pass from Elon Musk to tweet
to all of these people who are on Twitter and
TikTok and Instagram, whatever, explaining how they've now cut off
their family for voting right for Trump. I would like
to point out to them, Hey, that propaganda. You bought,
that rhetoric. You accepted. The people who convinced you it
(23:45):
was true, never believed it. Don't tell your dad, you're
never going to talk to him again. They exploited you
for their profit and you believed them.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, that's you know, Like I said last week, that's
what I'm hoping comes out of this as we have
the next generation of young people that will head into
adulthood realizing, oh, they claim it's an him as a
Nazi and Hitler and all this stuff, and then as
soon as the election's over, you just go back to
business as usual.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Oh okay, it's a rude.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
So now you all know it too, Like it took
me a while to figure it out, because when you're young,
you think this actually is the most important election ever.
All the people I care about are telling me this
is the most important election. The country's gonna be over
if it goes the wrong way. Yeah, no, kid, You're
not gonna talk to your dad anymore. Did you see
Joe Biden sitting there smiling, shaking hands with Trump, and
Joe and Mika.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Going down there to talk to him. What are you
talking about? How do you square those things? Friends?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Seriously, take a moment and think about it. This is
not a trick question, you know. One loyal viewer says,
gutted by Joe and Mika this morning. Gutted, total capitulation
after years of railing about his lack of fitness, not
even an interview to show their journalistic integrity, just to
pure kiss the ring session. Disappointed and done with them
(24:59):
in their show. You're getting close, You're getting closer. The
problem isn't that they're meeting with Trump. The problem is
that the rest of it was pretend right right right?
This isn't, you know, some sort of departure from their principles.
(25:20):
These are their principles again, Where does that leave you?
Having believed them and cut off your family, you know,
if you wanted to attack Joe Scarborough and his wife.
And again, I realize most of you don't. Ever, you've
never seen one second of the show ever, I realize,
And that's good, But god, you could play so many
(25:40):
clips of them saying over the top things where it'd
be legit to then ask them, how did you sit
in the same room with this guy, who you see
is one of the most evil people on the planet,
who only cares about destroying the country, making sure women
have no rights.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
He's racist?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Can you possibly sit down and have a conversation with them? Well,
it's because they didn't believe it in that stuff they said.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Is how right? Yeah? Entertainment, news ertainment.
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Speaker 4 (27:15):
I'm pretty tired of the looking back over the presidential election,
but I thought this article in the New York Times
how Kamala Harris burned through one point five billion dollars
in fifteen weeks was pretty entertaining.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Maybe we got to get into that a little bit
water how it helped her win. Oh that's right.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Oh no, she burned through one point five billion dollars
in fifteen weeks, according to New York Times, she was
averaging one hundred million dollars a week on spending.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Nobody's ever spent anything even close to them that amount
of money, even in a.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Winning campaign, right right, which says something about money in politics.
I mean, you can put like five hundred dollars or
two blips kind of pig and it's still around squealing.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Well, as The New York Times points out, she spent
all that money and became the first Democratic presidential candidate
to lose the popular vote in two decades.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Says if she was a terrible candidate and everyone knew
it all along. Wow, there's a viral video out now
where it's Tim Walls.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
It's some you remember him. That was funny, wasn't it? Anyway?
Speaker 5 (28:26):
So Tim Walls is during the campaign, he's given his
speech about a one thing I can't fuck him those
people for is they've stolen the joy from America.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
We have the joy. They're dark and ugly enough of them.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
And then it cuts to everybody doing the Trump dance
in the NFL and college.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
That's it on TV and just so, man, that's pretty funny.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Washington Post with a story out Today, athletes are beginning
to celebrate their wins and goals by dancing like President Trump.
I've seen everyone do it, said Las Vegas raiders Rock
Bauers told USA Today, it's funny, it's ex weeing its
all of sports.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
According a nactual NFL guy, Hannah, you wouln't think people
be doing the Hitler dance, no matter how great a
movie he had. You know, if Hitler did the moon walk,
you wouldn't see people doing the Hey, you can dance
just like Hitler. No, no, that would not be a thing.
As the kids, I just hope all the youngsters and
(29:26):
crazy ass soft headed left be cynical. Well a call
their dads and their moms and their siblings and their
old friends and wake up from your fever dream and
be realize, Hey, they're trying to whip you up, to
manipulate you to get your votes and your viewership and
your money. Wise up, Yeah, get more cynical, get less dopey.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Well, I'm looking at the picture at the big UFC
fight with Trump and Kid Rock. Everybody in the crowd
churn That seems like a jelly roll. That seemed like
some joy there.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Kid Rock really the girring of hip hop jack Kid
Rock really looking too.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Old for his outfit in some pictures. At some point
you age out of your your wacky clothes, Elon wearing
a T shirt that said occupy Mars, which I found
hilarious to me.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
That is hilarious to me. You go with your look
until the grave.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Oh why not? Yeah, you're a major stop Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
I mean, can you imagine the Kid Rock in naval
high slacks and a cardigan.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
It's just it's not right. I see you see he's
still doing it. That's quite the crew for Trump to
walk into that match, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Imagine trying to explain to somebody ten years ago, all right,
here's the deal, and you go through that list of
Elon Musk Okay, all right, I'm tracking with you and
Kid Rock what and RFK Junior?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Whoa wait what now? Oh right? That would be developed.
Oh we got a lot more on the way.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
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that over the course of one hundred and eighty million years,
the Y chromosome has declined, and that men could go
extinct in six million years.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah, So ladies hanging in there, you'll get your little president.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
You know, Oh, crowd aghast.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
What I mostly thought was interesting in that joke was
men will go extinct in the crowd cheering.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
That that particularly gals, It seemed like that whole view
of men.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
We got to turn that around as a country somehow
for my sons as they head out into the world.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Oh yeah, that's that's a real divide among women. Do
you believe to be pro woman is to be anti man?
What an insane point of view.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I got more misogyny in a second.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
But first, if you listen in the Bay area of
San Francisco, we have been on five sixty AM for
quite a few years. Well, we're now on both five
sixty and eight ten, the old kg oh call letters,
and after the first of the year, it'll be only
eight ten. Correct any of us correct? It's it's a
lover tourse signal. Yeah, it's a better signal. It's one
(32:27):
of the best AM signals in the entire United States.
Eight ten legendary, and we're happy to be on it.
And so switch over to eighten at some point.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Okay, Hanson wrote this, making eight ten great again, Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
And Getty Okay ten ksfo soon to be.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I guess this isn't misogyny. I just think it's dumb,
so the you promised misogyny the big boxing match, Tyson
landed eighteen punches in.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
The entire fight. How many rounds did it go?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Six two minute rounds? Plenty eighteen punches total. I mean,
that is not much of a fight. He was so
tired though. He got punched in the face really hard
a couple of times, and to his credit as a
guy who's about sixty, didn't fall over. And I think
Jake Paul realized if I knock out this old man
in front of the entire crowd was clearly rooting for
(33:21):
Mike Tyson.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I mean, wasn't even a question. It would have been
awful for him.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
He's a businessman, he's a guy who's figured out to
become a gazillionaire. As a really annoying him and his brother,
I couldn't hate them more. I hate the whole influencer, Instagram,
sensation YouTube thing in general, and they are the key
to it.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I mean, they're just ahead of it. I like the
prom King and Queen of it, of.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Just do outrageous stupid things to get attention and become rich.
I hate that old thing. Speaking of which, in the
boxing match, as they always do in boxing matches, they
have really hot chicks in skimpy outfits who stand there
and smile in their fake hooters, and this one tall blonde.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
And bring the number of the round around the ring. Girls. Yes, yeah,
these girls got most attention.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
This one particular girl got most pretention just for standing
behind the people as everybody was talking, and she became
an instant sensation. I'm not even gonna say her name
because I don't want to promote her, but uh, I
mean you couldn't look at the screen and not notice her.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
She was quite noticeable.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
But she now has like five million Instagram followers and
sixteen million TikTok videos and whatever.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Right, so weird? Who are you dudes who start following
someone on Instagram because it's.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
A slightly different and I mean slightly different hot blonde chick.
Speaker 9 (34:42):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Well, unlike my misogynist friend, I'm not outraged or offended
by any of this, but I will tell you this,
Dear cash In, now hire an agent today by noon.
Sign any contract put in front of you, no matter
the terms, and make your money now.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Or reply to all those rich dudes who are reaching
out to you and see if one of them is
nice enough to want to marry.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Signed that really cute girl at the Masters a couple
of years ago. See seeing the super cute girl at
the Tennessee football game who was on camera for ten seconds?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Remember no, no no, the hot guard at one of
the Trump trials of the Cops. She became cute cops.
She became something for a while. Yeah, you better cash
in like next day. I just I don't blame her.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
That's what She's attractive and she's trying to figure out
how to make a living off the fact that she
was blessed being attractive.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
You dudes, though, who follow her on Instagram? What is
your thing? Can I buy your time?
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Goodness?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
You have nothing else to do with your life? Then
follow yet another hot chick and look at her in
her clothes? What the hell?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Or out of them?
Speaker 5 (35:52):
She might get an OnlyFans account jack or sell her
underwear god knows what in this six sick world. Uh,
but I think that the dudes, they're taking it a
lot less Seriously, this looks she's a really cute girl
who's just a skinny, blonde girl with big boobs, imagine,
and they'll check out her Instagram and then next.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Week on to somebody else. Wow.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I wonder what the process is to become that person
in the boxing match. I wonder if that was pretty cutthroat,
because turned out to be fairly lucrative for her.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
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If you eat, sleep, and breathe true crime, TRUE CRIME TONIGHT is serving up your nightly fix. Five nights a week, KT STUDIOS & iHEART RADIO invite listeners to pull up a seat for an unfiltered look at the biggest cases making headlines, celebrity scandals, and the trials everyone is watching. With a mix of expert analysis, hot takes, and listener call-ins, TRUE CRIME TONIGHT goes beyond the headlines to uncover the twists, turns, and unanswered questions that keep us all obsessed—because, at TRUE CRIME TONIGHT, there’s a seat for everyone. Whether breaking down crime scene forensics, scrutinizing serial killers, or debating the most binge-worthy true crime docs, True Crime Tonight is the fresh, fast-paced, and slightly addictive home for true crime lovers.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com