I'm Just Keeping My Eye On The Elk

Hour 2 of A&G features...

• Breaking up Google to stop the monopoly
• The Aztec Death Whistle!
• Late night joke off & Biden not answering reporter's questions in time of crisis
• Did Russia fire an ICBM?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong is Joe Getty Armstrong and
Jettie and He Armstrong and Yetty.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
President Electron announced yesterday that he has selected former television
personality doctor oz Is the administrator for the Centers of
Medicare and Medicaid Services. Wow, another daytime television guy. It's
like his whole cabinet was selected by a kid who
was homesick with the flu.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
That's good, it does have that feel to it. We've
got a late night joke off later on this hour
that'll be exciting. Yeah, So yesterday was Joe Biden's birthday
and all of the late night hosts of course had
jokes about that. And we'll compare and contrast at the
bottom of the hour. So stick around. And could it
be that an ancient civilization developed a tool, almost a

(01:05):
musical instrument that could make people insane? We will tell
you about the Aztec death whistle and play the sound.
And yes, while this is a transparent and jiv effort
to keep you tuned in, it's also amazing, really freaky

(01:25):
and amazing, So stay tuned for that. A handful of
stories worth touching on briefly, and we mentioned that the
big judges ruling against Google. The Justice Department says they
should be forced to sell the Chrome browser and they're
asking a judge to order it because they have too
much of a monopoly on search search engines, and the

(01:47):
Chrome browser is the most popular one on Earth, I guess.
And then they pay billions and billions of dollars for Apple,
for instance, to make Google the default on iPhones and
iPads and the rest of it. And nobody's quite sure
which way this is going to go. The Biden administration,
Justice Department and FTC is super activist, like too far

(02:07):
in my mind right, I'm an ignoramus on this sort
of stuff. What's a monopoly and what's not and what's
unfair whatever. But like I said before, the fact that
you really can't live your life, especially if you got
kids in school, without being part of the Google world,
doesn't seem right to me. Yes, the idea, well, you

(02:30):
could opt out, we can, but it's not it means
would be really really, really difficult. Go ahead and tell
your boss that you don't do Google, so you won't
do which which is their platform for meetings whenever Google meets,
Google meets, So I can't be on that Google docs.
I don't do Google, or I don't use do Google Docs,
I don't do Google classroom. Go ahead and try that.

(02:52):
It ain't a very easy way to live your life, right. Ah.
Let's see advertisements next to search results accounted for fifty
seven percent of Google parent alphabets three hundred and seven
billion dollars of revenue last year. And the court case
that people are looking at as a precedent was twenty
five years ago when the US Court of Appeals vacated

(03:15):
at lower courts ruling blah blah blah. They said that
Microsoft had gotten huge organically. It grew it wasn't through
mergers and acquisitions, which could be anti competitive. It was
because it was really really good, and so you couldn't
break it up over that. On the other hand, a
twenty five year old court case about tech is I mean,

(03:36):
could he even write click a mouse twenty five years ago? Oound,
no kidding, right, Yeah, that's a good point. Any sort
of judgment about technology from twenty five years ago, obviously
that's the dinosaur age. Yeah yeah, Oh, musk In Ramaswami
want federal workers in the office full time. There's a
hitch And the interesting part of this to me, and

(03:59):
they talked about the fact that most employees actually go
to work five days a week anyway in the federal
government because of the nature of the work. If you're
a park ranger, you can't, you know, keep an eye
on the elk or whatever you're doing remotely. You know,
you work for the VA in a hospital, et cetera,
et cetera, but there's a reasonable open eye on the
I have your park ranger, Jeff, what do you do? Well,

(04:21):
The bulk of my job is keeping an eye on
the elk. I know onebody you do it over there,
just standing here like an elk. All right. I only
actually know one park ranger, but I know that the
bulk of her job was looking out for meth encampments, right,
and poachers too. It can be incredibly dangerous work being
a park ranger or a game warden, that sort of thing,

(04:42):
because they're often like on their own, fifty miles from
anybody to help them. So respect to those folks. But anyway,
so it's it's hey, what is it, twenty percent, maybe
twenty five percent of the federal workforce is working remotely,
and they say that's it's it's comparable to the private sector,
and they just move on. But and here's the discussion

(05:05):
that I never hear outside of this show, or you know,
when we've talked to Tim Sanderferd through the years. The
entire dynamic of quality work, of accountability, of getting your
money's worth is completely different in government work than it
is in the private sector. I don't think most people

(05:27):
think about that, which is crazy. It is crazy. And
to say, well, actually, remote workers in the government about
the same ratio as the private sector. So there's nothing
to see here. Oh no, no, no, no, I'm the
boss here. I don't like the quality of work that's
being done. See. That's the thing. It reminds me of
so many other discussions we've had recently. Not only does

(05:50):
no one know how efficient federal workers are in general,
or in that department or in that department where they're
all working remotely, nobody even asks and it There are
a bunch of other things I want to get to,
including Jack Yes, Tick death whistle. But I was reminded
of this email that we got from uh, we'll say, alnonymous.

(06:12):
You're talking about how many members of the federal workforce
work from home with very little oversight, the implication being
that they have work to do but get nothing done
because they aren't being closely supervised. I worked for the
state government. I'll let you guess which state. Very large.
It has an ocean next to it. Texas. I worked
for the state government. Pardon me, must be Texas. Nailed it.

(06:34):
I worked for the state government. I can tell you
that's not the problem in my current role, I hate
I have very little actual work to do. I've had
many positions like this, not all, but many government positions
like this. I love these stories. I love these stories.
You would not believe because we've been in California, which
is another large state, for many, many years. We've heard

(06:56):
from state and boys for many many years. We've heard
these stories for decades. Love them all well. Back to Joe,
Oh yeah, the show has long been based out of Sacramenta, California,
the capital of the state, and state workers, many of
whom are conservatives and good folks, are in the belly
of the beast, and your worst imaginings aren't bad enough. Anyway.
Back to Alnanymous's note here, I've told my supervisor, I

(07:20):
have nothing to do. I've been in positions in the
past where I volunteered to help other teams with their work.
Problem is they don't have enough work to stay busy either.
Oh my god, here's how it works in the state.
I won't mention. Bring on that dog. Now we need
a state doge. Bring on the doge. Here's how it
works in California. The unions take a cut of your
pay and pass it up the chain to the Democratic Party.

(07:42):
The Democrats ensure that the public employee workforce grows, so
the Democrats also increase their cut. The union bosses get
a fat cut of that take. Most state employees have
a side hustle. They work during the day, even the managers.
The employees get mediocre pay with great medical benefits and
a fat retirement package. The side hustle helps pay the
bills in the short term. The managers don't want to

(08:03):
micromanage the employees because it would take them away from
the side hustle. Employees who ask for more work or
make it clear that they don't have enough to do
are a paraiya. Nothing will sabotage your career faster than
pointing out how much time employees waste doing nothing. No
one wants to hear it. They're working the system and
they know it, but they didn't design the system and
have no control over it anyway. Oh my god, just this,

(08:25):
this makes me so combination of angry and sad. This
is how empires die Jack is Sangrey Not to mention
resentful tax payers. I work for a tax agency. Every
new tax leads to more positions for our agency, usually
as part of the legislation. No one ever asks whether
we can administer the new taxes with existing employees. We

(08:46):
just get new employees at random. Wow. The workforce isn't
the problem. We're just cogs in the wheel. Forcing us
to work in the office more often won't increase productivity.
It will just make us drive to an office so
we can chitchat with each other and do nothing. Simply,
isn't enough work for the number of employees? Wow? And
then that whole you wait till you can retire at

(09:09):
a pretty young age. You're like fifty, So if you
started early, like because I know several people like this
who live lives like they won the lottery because they
did the state government work and then retired. And because
healthcare is not a worry, and you got a pension.
It's just it's incredible. And I don't know how much

(09:29):
work they did leading up to that, but this person
here and many people they observe, doesn't seem to be
a whole lot for what it's worth. Mister anonymous got
a a certification in an advanced field that you need
certification to practice in and is finishing his master's degree soon,

(09:52):
all on work hours because there's nothing to do. That
is incredible. That is and heavy newsome just California and
all blue states. They want to raise your taxes and
that is just so freaking sickening and maddening. And I
have zero belief that there's anything that can be done
about it. Zero. Yeah, not minimum or not much or

(10:13):
it's a coin flip zero. I have zero belief that
anything can be done about it. Correct. Ah, So moving
along totally different topic, right, God, you can't. You can't
drop that cyclone bomb of a story on me and
expect me to get over it with what I pay
in taxes. Good lord, I know. Ah. Government is a

(10:39):
for profit business for the people in it the whole.
It's a nonprofit that is the phoniest good. That was
the most misleading term that's ever created. I Joe Getty
run a nonprofit. We save the squirrels and we may
we know it right right, Well, you know you keep

(10:59):
an eye and the al quill. You're saving the squirrels.
It's easy. They don't move around much. But anyway, Yeah,
we're a nonprofit or a not for profit. I happen
to have a salary of six hundred and fifty thousand
dollars a year, but we're not for profit. Haw haw haw.
That's what government is. It's an enormous cash cow for people.

(11:19):
And every time you try to shrink it at all
or cut back at all, people howl and scream about
firefighters and teachers. Right, we're seeing the budget on the
backs and the poor. Hilarious. So finally this speaking of
a government. This is a careful, painstaking analysis of Kamala

(11:42):
Harris's campaign and the big super pack that was financing
it named what's the name of this campaign, the pack
future for it that's raised over a billion dollars and
how they might have misstepped and did they spend their
money too late? And they're explaining why they spent their
money why they didn't. They're being blamed for blah blah blah,

(12:03):
and nobody in this long article ever says, you know,
the candidate was a moron that nobody liked, an unlikable moron.
I mean you could, you could work hard on massaging
your media strategy, but you're still putting media lipstick on
a swine. She refused to answer the simplest questions. So

(12:23):
there's that, and the most obvious of questions she had
no answer for. They're debating how much it was spent
on the lipstick in what shade it was? I find
that hilarious. Keep wasting your time and money on that question.
Coming up, Jack, the Aztec death whistle, the as Tech

(12:45):
death whistle, I will make you wait no longer other
than the commercial break, A tool, a sound that made
people insane. Also on the way, good news on four
to one k's if you're a four to one K
person and you should be, and a bunch of others.
So stay here. Did Russia fire and ICBM into Ukraine?

(13:07):
That's still trying to be nailed down. We got the
latest on that coming on. So the as Tech death Whistle,
I feel like you really enjoyed saying that, oh I
do who what A certain certain old friend of the
show and personally and constitutional scholar said, let me guess

(13:30):
as tech death whistle sounds exactly like a lot is
more set. And I said, yeah with a dude singer,
I want a T shirt that says as tech death whistle.
So folks who studied the Aztec culture have come across
this artifact that is clearly some sort of whistle. It's
shaped as a it's shaped like a skull, and it

(13:50):
likely represents like thirty seven letters unpronounceable, the Aztec lord
of the underworld. So as Tench's like a Native American
h Indian tribe from the Mexico area, died out long
long time ago, probably killed by the Spaniards, that sort
of thing. Those are one of the great ancient civilizations
of the Western hemisphere, indeed. But so they believe that

(14:15):
these whistles played a crucial role in sacrificial ceremonies and
some other things like maybe preparing for war ceremonies and
that sort of thing. Yeah, that's the thing with all
those peaceful loving Indian tribes from down south of the border.
Lots of human sacrifices lots of taking little kids and
thrown them into fires. Oh my god. Well, and as

(14:36):
part of the rituals, they would blow in these whistles.
And it's not clear exactly what they are hoping to
get out of it. When researchers, they used the CT
scans and three D modeling to reproduce them because they
didn't want to abuse the actual artifacts. But so they've
they've made perfect replicas of these things and and blown

(14:57):
into them. And if you're driving, keep a steady hand
on the wheel, okay, or pull over or And I
know this sounds like one of those nineteen fifties movies,
a movie so terrifying you must show a certificate from
your doctor. But it's I swear I'm not Giantana because

(15:19):
I came across this and I said, wow, how interesting.
Oh go neat. They have audio of the whistles. Let
me listen to it. And I cried myself to sleep. Okay,
all right, So you're about the hurl kids into a
volcano and they there are two of them, and they
blow on this. Wow, you have that going on all

(15:41):
around you. If that didn't give you the frickin'ies, Wow,
I don't know what it could play. The other one,
Michael plainly made to emulate a human scream of abject terror.
How in the world did they craft the whistle that
sounds exactly like a person screaming out in fear or pain. Well,

(16:05):
I don't know, maybe you know, Uh, Jose the whistle
maker was sitting around craft in a whistle. He was
looking for something, trying to you know, I'd rather be
a hammer than a nail. Simon garfunkles sound that was?
That was peruv and I think but and he's like,
oh dude, I totally screwed up this whistle. Instead of
sounding like the Paul Simon thing, it sounds like a
human being having their entrails. Keep that, Jose the whistle maker.

(16:29):
That'd be perfect for him when he tossed children into volcanoes.
Good late, what really you think? Okay, wow, that is horrifying.
That is horrifying. You picture that a whole bunch of
people stand around blowing those whistles as they, you know,
torture and kill innocent humans. That is brutal. All cultures

(16:51):
are not wonderful and and uh, you know something to
aspire to. Yeah, some are vastly better than others and
protect human rights and dignity way better others. And I
got one in mind that I'm really fond of and
prepared to defend. Wow, that is some sound. Yeah, freaky hunh.
I need one of those to blow around the kids
to get their attention time for dinner. That's good, Parent

(17:16):
Armstrong and Getty. Netflix has been hit with a fifty
million dollar class action lawsuit because of the Tyson Paul
fights streaming glitches. So we're all just it made me
so mad. I deserve money or something. That's ridiculous. It
is got to ruin America. It really is. It really is.

(17:38):
So go ahead, So coming up, we will get to
the whole did rush a fire and ICBM that's a
pretty big deal and we'll hear a report from in
panel on ABC about that. But so, we haven't done
a late night joke off in a while. It's it's
when some story is big enough that all the late
night comedians try to craft a joke around it. And

(17:59):
yesterday's it was Biden's birthday. But do we have a
bunch of different comedians or different jokes or yeah, we did.
We got four of them, four different companies, two of
them are Jimmy fallon. That's what we could just do
one each from the one. Yeah, we got one. You
got a Meyer's a fallon, a gut filled and a Colbert. Oh.
I say, okay, something's mislabeled, but it doesn't matter, and I,

(18:20):
Joe Getty will judge each of the jokes and gray
them in the bottom joke the bottom A grade getter
will be banned from comedy for life, according to the
authority of the International Criminal Court, which has as much
authority as I do for banning comedians for life. All right,
let it roll, Michael.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
President Biden today celebrated his eighty second birthday, and he
marked the occasion the way many older men do by
fighting Jake Paul.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I got too bad.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Today is President Biden's eighty second birthday. Hey, you can
tell Biden is getting up there because they didn't cut
him slice of cake.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
They puried it, and he drank it with a straw.
Oh wow, I'm kidding. So it's Joe Biden's birthday today.
He turned eighty two. Doctor Jill gave him.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
A gift certificate to bed Bath.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
And the Great Beyond.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
It's Joe Biden's eighty second birthday. Happy you hear the people,
Happy birthday, Joe. We got you a cake, but Nancy
Pelosi insisted you sacrificed.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
It for the good of democracy. You know, I think
that's the first time I've laughed at every joke. Oh yeah, yeah,
I gave a Fallon a c minus which one of
the purade joke. He was just funny, easy work, easily amused.

(19:53):
I don't know. Gutfeld the clear winner with a suplid
a bath and great beyond, great beyond. Yeah, oh that
was beautiful. Yeah. So unfortunately Jimmy Fallon this seems like
a really nice Fellows banned from common That's too bad
for him. Yeah. A couple of politics things for you.
One Mark Alprin writing today, is anybody like concerned that

(20:19):
the current president of the United States took no questions
at a time of several different great international crisis is
going on at the same time and his party like
with one of the biggest disruptions in its history, nothing
to say, no questions. It's because he's not capable. The
question is doesn't that bother anybody? Case you didn't hear

(20:40):
mention it yesterday. Nate Silver, one of the great polsters
in America who got so much attention during the election
from the lefty crowd New York Times everybody else said yesterday,
Joe Biden needs to resign. He said, viewing Joe Biden
hit the G twenty down there in Brazil and seeing
him take no questions and shuffle around, he should resign.

(21:00):
He should not be president of the United States right now.
It's scary. Yeah, I would agree. I've agreed for quite
some time. How is that not a bigger story? I
don't know, Well, I don't know. I think it's just
it's baked in. I thought it would get pushed by
everybody understands that and has understood it for a long

(21:22):
time and just has accepted it and is waiting for January.
I thought it would get pushed by the wouldn't it
be great to have our first female president crowd? All
those people that voted for Kamala Harris. Aren't they pushing
for her to be president for a couple of months
at least, you would think so. I haven't really come
across that, And I think there are a hell of

(21:43):
a lot of American women who think, heh, it'd be
great to have an American president. How about we have
one that's not a moron because that would reflect poorly
on women. Do you think the problem is Kamala Harris
is so not respected that the pushing him to resign
for her just doesn't seem like a big upgrade. You

(22:06):
think that's it? Yeah, I think the number of people
who are advocating for her in any way to do
anything is pretty small at this point. Also, and here's
the real sticking point. You've got a guy and his wife,
in my opinion, in the Bidens, who were pushing something
as utterly delusional and almost hilariously unrealistic as oh, he

(22:30):
can serve another term. Somebody that delusional unless the plan
was to win the election because he thought he could
beat Trump, then it resigned practically immediately. But I don't
get the sense that that was the plan. But anyway,
somebody who's that damn delusional is not going to say,
you know what, I'm not that sharp. Maybe I'll step
down and give up the last couple of months of

(22:51):
my term. It's just not gonna happen. I know, you know,
people make jokes about how old he is all the time,
but for real, we all saw that debate in various
other things he's done. There's a chance that whoever went
into the Oval office today and said we believe Russia
fired an ICBM into Ukraine and he doesn't know who

(23:15):
they are or what they're talking about, or was asleep,
there's a decent chance of that, or he started talking
about it for a couple of seconds and forgot and
start talking about so. I mean, that's not crazy like
right wing trying to be a comedian stuff. There's a
decent chance of that, well, right, and giving the way
dementia progresses, keep in mind that debate that was four

(23:36):
months ago. He has four months further down that row,
no kidding, and that's highly troubling. But then you know,
you got that. Do I want Kamla Harris to receive
the ICBM information and make some sort of decision. Not really,
I'd rather have Blincoln and Burns of CIA and Sullivan
whoever else, sec def Austin. You know, let them figure

(23:58):
it out. So far, so good, and I use that
term advisedly. I mean good by the standards of the
Biden administration. Nothing's gone seriously sideways. Yet. One more politics
thing Carl rove And called the Matt Gates thing, a
catastrophically bad selection. And then Dan Heninger, who writes for

(24:21):
Wall Street Journal, I think m HM wrote today about
the Matt Gates thing in Washington. Functional relationships really matter,
and Matt Gates has none. Hold the screams about establishment sellouts.
Since ancient Athens, success in achieving political goals has depended
on personal relationships. Washington, like it or not, is about

(24:42):
politics in this respect. Donald Trump and Matt Gates couldn't
be less alike. Trump is a relationship guy. He maneuvers
people inside his deals. Mister Gates does the opposite. He
makes people not want to do business with him. As
Attorney General, he would fail and the CAMI Holder legacy
would survive. That's what you were saying earlier. If you
want to disrupt the Justice Department, Gating and to be

(25:03):
able to get it done, because but that's true. Trump
figures out a way, either through carrots or sticks, to
have relationships with people. Matt Gates has acted so far
like I don't mean anybody. I can do everything completely
on my own. F y'all right, right. I'm told over
and over again that he's an exceptionally bright guy, and

(25:24):
that a lot of his ass clown act is just
that it's an act. But behind closed doors he's really
an impressive guy. But behind closed doors he legit has
no friends though he's pissed off everybody. Yeah, yeah, they
all hate him. Well, And back to Trump. The word
on Trump is when you meet him personally, he is
utterly charming and likable. The brash kind of pisses people

(25:48):
off public persona. It's not there in person, and Gates
is the opposite. Yeah. Again, my argument, I mean, there's
absolutely truth to the idea that you can't have somebody
who's just a reckless lawbreaker in charge of the Justice
Department if these allegations are true, and I think some
of them are. Some of them are frankly a little
squishy in the way that you know sexcapaids tend to be.

(26:13):
But the second thing is I just don't think he'll
be effective. That's my argument against the guy. One more
thing on Gates from Mark Alpern's newsletter, which I thought
was interesting. The press keeps writing that there's no apparent
strategy for getting Matt Gates confirmed, when in fact, the
strategy is clear, go step by step taking advantage of
Senator's inclination expressed by new leader Thune and others to

(26:36):
give the president's picks a fair hearing. So you just
get to the hearings, then you get a favorable committee vote.
Then you dare all Republican Senators, including Collins and Murkowski,
to defy the new president and MAGA by publicly voting
his choice down on the floor. That's the step by
step by step, and Trump thinks that's good analysis. Yeah,

(26:58):
when you get there, people are going to think, do
I want to take on this headache? Do I just
give Trump his got his person? So we'll see. Our sponsor,
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I wanted to hit you with a My favorite headline
of the day where this is from the New York Post.
Is it better than as tech? Death whistle is the

(28:22):
one that almost makes me want to click on it.
I was smoking and reading the Bible when I decided
to give up cigarettes. I felt blessed when I got
lung cancer. What w I'm sure, I'm sure. I'm not sure.
If followed that might have to click on this story.
Coming up, we'll hear a little bit about the latest

(28:43):
reporting on whether or not Russia fired off an ICBM.
A lot of you, I know, believe Biden has held
bent on getting US into World War three or putting
Trump in a horrible difficult situation. I don't know about that,
but the saber riding, saber rattling is maybe the highest
in the entire war, which has been going on for
three years. More on that coming up a little bit.

(29:08):
I'm trying to read up on how significant this is
or isn't that Russia may have fired an ICBM some
sort of ballistic missile definitely, whether or not it was
an ICBM or not into Ukraine. I'm reading from who
is this somebody who is a think tank person with
defense policy. Don't get caught up on the range of
the missile system launched, whether it was an ICBM or

(29:30):
an IRBM. I don't know what that means intermediate range
ballistic missile. Probably the range isn't the important factor. The
fact that it carried in an mir V payload, is
much more significant for signaling purposes and is the reason
Russia opted for it. This payload is exclusively associated with
nuclear capable missiles. So this was a gesture of like

(29:56):
you said earlier, it's not like we don't know that
they can fire, that they have these missiles and can
fire them. I guess the fact that you actually fired
one is considered significant, and then the fact that that's
got to scare the hell out of her. Whoever's job
it is to sit there and monitor satellite feeds picking
up missiles, because we have the ability to pick up

(30:17):
a missile. Read that new book about nuclear war. I
don't have it memorized. I'll have to look that up.
The woman that put together all the information on the
planet about nuclear war, she goes through, second by second,
what it would be like if there were a full
on attack by Russia. From the first within two seconds

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it's picked up on a satellite, then where the information
goes from there, and then who makes what decision? When
it's fascinating, and then when the missile would hit the
United States, what would be like after that? How many
people would die? How the whole thing is just frightening
as hell. But Anyway, there are people that monitor this
sort of stuff, and if Putin's firing off these kind

(30:58):
of missiles that had to have somebody's underwear in a
ward before they figure out exactly where it's going and
what it's doing. AnyWho, Ian Bremer tweeted out that China's
successfully launched an ICBM into the Pacific just a couple
of weeks ago, the first time since nineteen eighty that
they had launched an ICBM. That's a long time because

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we have agreements not to do that sort of thing,
especially without notifying people. Anyway, I Bremer said, Russia is saying,
hold my beer. Here's in panels report on that.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Overnight multiple strikes by Russia on the eastern Ukrainian city
of Dnipro, and the situation is rather confused, a big question.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
What was it?

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Ukraine initially saying was an ICBM strike, and President Zelenski
just reinforcing that in the last few minutes, but they're.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Still assessing ICBMs.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Have never been used in combat before, and our nuclear
capable got this wasn't a nuclear strike, and the Western
official also saying they didn't think it was an ICBM,
but many agreeing that they haven't seen a strike like
this before.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Interesting that panel fulm ABC News. He goes on here
and then we can discuss.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
But of course the attack comes in the wake of
Ukraine firing American blistic missiles and the US embassy here
closing yesterday. I mean, it fairs amount of potential Russian attack.
And we're also hearing that North Korean generals and high
ranking officers were present at the site of yesterday's strike
using British cruise missiles into Russia. I mean, frankly, it's
been a week of escalations. All of this is going

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to be a huge challenge for Presidents Electroump and his
plans to try and end Russia's war here in Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Your thoughts before I start talking again, Ah, A couple
of things. It just it seems clear that Putin wants
to send the message yet again that any escalation and
weapons supplied or their use will be met with hard assery.
So's that's fairly typical. If it was an ICBM, that's

(32:53):
a pretty big deal. If it wasn't, it probably wasn't
a big deal just because they're heaving missiles at each
other like and then the whole Putin has changed their
nuclear use protocols. I read into that, and that's it's
it's not a big deal at all. He doesn't go
by protocols. It's an autocracy. He just makes decisions constantly

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and writes a law one day and defies it the
next without even thinking about it. Now, the Soviet Union
was very systems based, and they wanted to prevent a
nuclear war with the United States, and so they had
protocols that they actually paid attention to. But they said
with Putin, it's it's merely saber rattling. Now, whether he's
prepared to pull out a saber and stab somebody with it,

(33:38):
that's a different question. And I know some people think
he is, But all in all, I just think it's
more just maneuvering, political maneuvering to try to get to
the bargaining table with the best deal possible. Joe Getty
soft on nuclear war. I hope you're right. I hope
you're right. My concern is that he thinks, and he

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may be correct, that he could get away with a
limited nuclear strike, and that the world would like really
get angry and say mean things and talk about sanctions
which never work, but he'd get away with it. Well,
maybe they'd blame the US and NATO. Who knows. I
suspect rather strongly that in the real world, Putin would

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pick up the phone, he would call Biden. It would
be told the President is sleeping. He would call back
two hours later. You'd be told it's not a good time.
He would call back the next day, trying to catch
Biden at a coaching moment, and he would say, look,
you pull back this, or we're going to set off
a small nuclear device into neypro That is what is

(34:44):
going to happen. Consider your options carefully, call me back.
And nobody knows. According to the books I've just recently read,
Secretary Blinkin himself doesn't know how Biden would react to that.
He wonders right by the way, the name of the
book is Nuclear War A Scenario by Annie Jacobson, and
it's the best book ever written about all the ins

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and outs of what that would look like and what
it's been throughout history. And it is freaking fascinating if
you like that sort of thing. No doubt what Ian
Pannell said there. It has been a week of escalations
with Ukraine using our attackers and then using the British
long range missiles yesterday, and then Russia using a bigger

(35:28):
rocket than they've used so far. And yeah, I hope
that it stops there, I guess, uh yeah, yeah, And
again I suspect rather strongly that it will, but we'll
find out next hour. Some gender bending madness developments in
our nation's capital. Oh because the first trans congress person. Yes, indeed,

(35:49):
plus people are spending five figures and endangering their vision
to change the color of their eyes. What good idea
or vain nonsense? Well, who cares what color their eyes? Are?
Wise people, armstrong and getty