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November 27, 2024 36 mins

Hour 4 of the November 27 ,2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay features.

  • Keith Jarrett, Divorced Dads
  • Going to the Club
  • Tik Tok Face Punching/ Driving a Ship
  • Jack Birthday Texts

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Arm Strong, and Jetty and He.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Armstrong and Ye Getty Strong.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
This is the Armstrong and Getty Show, featuring our podcast
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Speaker 3 (00:40):
Katie or or anybody can answer this question. Do you
know who Keith Jarrett is? Mm? Hmm, I know the name,
which is where I was about a week ago.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, so I'm Jarrett.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I like all kinds of music, like there is on
a song by song basis. There is no genre I
don't like really except for metal. I just have never
been able to get in any metal. But other than that,
every genre there are songs I like and songs I don't.
With songs thought, and so I'm like really into learning
to play the piano the last couple of years, and
I watch a lot of videos about piano, and some

(01:13):
guys I like were doing an all time Greatest Pianist's
list the other day. Who are the goats? Are you
familiar that people now refer to goats as plural? It's
a plural, It's not it's not. No, no, No, that
doesn't work at all. Sorry, you're wrong. Apparently I'm wrong too.
I've just become aware enough times. Now you name goats,

(01:35):
these three are the goats, the greatest of all time? Yeah,
I don't get it, but that's the way people refer
to it.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Think what Honestly, although that is silly, you know, grammatically speaking,
I much prefer that who's the greatest guitar player? That's
an idiotic question. So now you say, if you want
to name a bunch of people are on the very
top tier. Great, that's what people mean when they say goat.
Now anyway, one of the goats was this Keith Jarrett
piano player who I had heard of, but like I'd

(02:02):
tried to listen to before and couldn't get into. Maybe
I just wasn't ready for it yet. Sometimes that is
the case with music.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
You're not ready for it yet for a variety of reasons,
fairly complex. Is this like is this a new artist
or is this no? OK, he's still alive. He doesn't
perform anymore because he had some strokes and can't play
the piano anymore, but he is considered among jazz musicians
like one of the top rick Beato, the music producer,
has got a YouTube video that millions of people have

(02:29):
watched an interview with Keith Jarrett and calls him one
of the great music composers of the last century at least.
I mean, he's just an absolute genius, and a genius
in the fact that most of his famous albums are
completely improvised. That was his thing. He walks into a
stadium and the feel of the piano, the crowd, the room,

(02:53):
the day, he just makes it up, you know, like
four songs, oh he plays. And he even says that
like if he has an idea, he discounts it. He
doesn't want to have an idea before he goes out there.
He just wants to feel at as he goes. And
it's just okay, start you to hear some if that
were me, So go ahead and start the song, Michael,

(03:13):
because I'm going to talk about it over this. And
so one of the recommendations I was looking up to
some of the best Keith Jarrett stuff, and one of
the recommendations was this song. It's from live Bordeaux concert Live.
Most of his famous stuff is live, Like I said,
all improvised, crank it up enough that we can hear.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
This is part one. Where does the singing start?

Speaker 3 (03:34):
There's no singing against instrumental. This is part three. There's
just four parts. Like I said, he's improvising it. So
he just does four songs ranging from four to fifteen
minutes long, just however long he's feeling it. Crowd goes wild.
If the crowd reacts poorly, he yells at them. It's
a very touchy artists sort of person.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, where do you get off?

Speaker 3 (03:51):
There a drum solo? There's no drum solo, and you
good crank it up because this is what's interesting. So
I became obsessed with this song on Sundays after the Grammy's.
Interestingly enough, I became aware of it and I listened
to the whole thing while I was walking the dog,
and it hit me in a way like I don't
remember the last time a song has hit me like this.

(04:12):
And I probably listened to it ten times that night,
including in bed with my headphones on while I was
falling asleep, maybe ten times the next day in the rain.
I send it to some people. It's just it affected
me in so much in.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Such a way.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Now I'm getting to the punchline that you're gonna find
quite hilarious.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Oh boy on this song affecting me so much.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
It's like, man, this isn't really like even my sort
of thing.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I mean, it's just so.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
And it gets slightly more complex. I mean, it's just
very pretty sweet piano music. It's four minutes here, let
me read this. So I started doing a little research
on famous Keith Jarrett albums, and this album has four
and five stars from all your big jazz magazines and
top reviewer of all time and that sort of stuff,

(05:01):
and particularly this song. Here's one of the reviews for
this song from McSweeney's. It's one of the most respected
jazz critics of all time. A note for divorced Dads
on Keith Jarrett's Bordeaux Concert Part three, And I thought,
what what one would have a difficult time finding a

(05:26):
musical composition that better suits the emotions of a recently
divorced dad than Keith Jarrett's Bordeaux Concert Part three. If
I happened upon a divorced dad driving around looking for
coffee in his twenty eighteen Ford f one fifty or something,
I would stop him and play it for him.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
It gives me.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Goosebumps actually reading this. This is free key as a
guy who drove a twenty fifteen for one fifty. The
entirety of the piece is four minutes and four seconds.
I cannot think of a reason why a recently divorced
dad couldn't find that kind of time. Once the divorce,
Dad and I have and understanding we would venture into it.
The composition, it begins with the stable rolling chords that

(06:05):
gently root the piece, drawing up imagery of a young
couple holding hands in a tall grass. They're one entity.
Is zeygeite of relationship. And it goes on and on
like this through the whole relationship, falling in love, being
in love, deciding to have kids, having kids, it becoming difficult,
and falling apart, the divorce happening, you trying to raise

(06:26):
your kids on your own. At the end of this song,
and then he ends actually with now go pick up
your kid from karate practice.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Now this is freaking me out.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Turn it out just a little bit, Michael, because now
I think we're into the You realize you're divorced and
you're raising your kids on your own.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Part. Yes, I don't know, now did Keith Jarrett say
any of this or this is just the reviewer figuring
quote unquote figuring this out.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
This is one of the weenies. This is one of
the most famous jazz reviewers of all time. That's the
way he interpreted this music and me as a recently
divorced dad laying in bed listening to it ten times
in a row because it touched me in a way
I can't remember music ever touching me. What the hell
is that is weird? Well, it is weird. Holy smuff,

(07:12):
I know, isn't that strange?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Well, hey, you got anything for angsty empty nesters? I
like to play golf? Yeah, yeah, Wow, Wow.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
What a trip.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Isn't that strange? Though? Yeah, I mean that's that's beyond strange.
That's uh does he ex well? I guess he kind
of sort of explains why, but not no way that
I would find terribly compelling if I came across it
anywhere else in any other context. I think, well, wait
a minute, there are a lot of, you know, trips

(07:48):
people go through in their lives that maybe start like
super exciting, promising, then get kind of rocky, and then
you've just got to make the most of it and
move on. I mean, there are a lot of things
like that, but here.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
We are, well, they're also a million pieces of music
that are kind of sweet but modling. But you know, whatever,
the fact that this well known jazz critic picks out
one of the most respected jazz pieces in history and
assigns this particular meaning to it, and then I, not

(08:19):
knowing that it'd be one thing if i'd read that first,
but not knowing that at all, get pulled into this
song in a way I don't. I don't remember the
last time I've been pulled into a song where I
listened to it that many times in a row, if ever,
in my life.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
It's amazing how different music works. That's how you felt
with that, And I felt like I was on hold
waiting for a prescription from like CVS.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Right.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I agree in any other context, I would have been
the same way, and I probably would have listened to
like a minute and thought for me and gone to
the next song. And it makes me question my understanding
of you know, abstract art and stuff like that. When
I look at a piece of art in a walm thing,
she's my three year old could do that. That doesn't
mean anything because that music.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
See, I'm into that.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Normally that kind of music, well, I agree with Hitler,
it's it's a ruse, But that kind of music usually,
I think is just kind of meandering, and I understand
some people like it, but it's not really my bag.
The fact that it had such a specific the fact
that he even mentions a yes, okay, So here's here's

(09:25):
the deal.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Obviously we're we're sitting here, you know, rolling around in
the wonder of it. We need to know more about this,
this guru, this sage, this omniscient McSweeney person. What the
hell's going on there? What sort of psychic witchery is
is that?

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Does he have that ability with all songs in art?
That painting over there, If your cat just got hit
by a car, that's the perfect painting.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
As you're sitting there thinking of little Fluffy and admiring
the brushstrokes, that's just freaky. Man.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Man, Well, let me want to go find all of
my favorite songs and read the reviews on it, just
to see write anything lines up.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
One would have a difficult time finding a musical composition
that better suits the emotions of a recently divorced dad.
If I happened upon a divorced dad driving around looking
for coffee in his twenty eighteen Ford F one to fifteen.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
And you're a coffee addict.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, I have done that as a I would stopping
the year wrong, the hack and he left out going
to get McDonald's on the way home.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, that's sure. That doesn't know anything.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
It's freaky man, laying in bed listening to it in
my headphones in the dark, moved by music in a
way maybe I never have been in my life weird.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Now. I've been trying to think if there's anything that's
been anything similar, any song or music similar to that,
And all I can come up with is is I
discovered an album several years after it was out by
the band from Indiana called hound Mouth, and the song
is my Cousin Greg, and the opening line is my
cousin Greg is a greedy son of a bitch. And

(11:04):
I'm just I'm not sure what McSweeney would say about that.
I have no cousin Greg who's a greedy son of
a bitch, so obviously it's not that close a fit.
That's freaky, So I don't know what I'm You gotta
look more into this, McSweeney dude because he's a witch.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Or following me around. Yeah, that'd be my guess. Although
he wrote this years ago.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well right, that's weird, man, I know.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
That's why I brought it to the podcast. I just
thought this is too effing freaky. Next time, I'm gonna
show a slow saxophone solo that expresses the feelings of
a man is broken TV and no extended warranty.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
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Speaker 3 (12:01):
Hey, we're Armstrong and Getty. We're featuring our podcast one
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Speaker 2 (12:08):
Turning to a new pole, gen Z doesn't want to
go out to the bars and scream at each other
over loud music or fifty thousand other people. It seems
like sometimes having a conversations, they'd rather sit around at
home and have a drink or two with their friends.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Why did it take until gen Z to figure that out?

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I don't know, and I don't want to like over.
I don't want to dominate the podcast because I'm a
team player. But I have never even when I was
young and slightly hip and somewhat popular. I didn't want
to go to bars and yell at each other. You'll

(12:49):
have crazy.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
You'll have to weigh in on this, Katie, because but
my experience is I was out at the bars a
lots of times. We're like at a quiet kind of
bar and everybody talking to say, even o'clock.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
We got to go over to the where and.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I think, why, we're having a perfectly good time here.
We can hear each other, we're sitting. We're gonna go
to some place where we're like shuffled around shoulder to shoulders,
screaming at the top of our lungs, are not talking.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Why go ahead, Katie.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Well, no, I've I went through the phase of every
weekend at the bars and all of that, and I
did too for twenty two years.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
So hid for twenty two years.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
But it was it was a solid seven you know,
and it got exhausting. Now when I go out to
the bars, it's more of that environment where it's just chilling.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
It's very quiet, some music, but there's not a lot
of yelling. No, I never never. When I was when
I was twenty years old, the drinking age was eighteen.
When I went to college, when I was.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Twenty years old.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I had no interest in going to the big throbbing
club and yelling at the person next to me. Thank
God for you.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Refrain from saying big throbbing club if you can. Yeah,
I've just I've never had that in me. This golf
club where I play golf mostly opened up a new
bar and it's like quiet and classy and set up
for like conversation areas where four to six people can
sit and chat and have a drink and all in

(14:13):
and Judy and I went there and we were like,
oh my god, this is perfect. And then we ran
into some friends of ours who really aren't great people,
but the dude was like, oh my god, did they
waste that space?

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (14:24):
I couldn't hate it off. Where are the TVs with
the play by play going and the energy? We want energy?

Speaker 3 (14:33):
I want no energy, less energy.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I'd bring no energy and I want none thrust upon me.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, and same way with restaurants. I hope gen Z
kills loud restaurants. You know whenever. It was in the
mid nineties that they decided to take all the baffling
out of the ceilings and have it be open brick
and pipes, so you can get as much sound reverberating
as possible. So it's just deafeningly loud, and every clink
of every glass and fork and the whole place echoes
in your head. Who loves that?

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Or it's just acceptable to be obnoxiously allowed at the table,
Like I remember when being in a restaurant, you know,
you had manners and you had to be kind of
quiet and polite, and then you've got tables next to
you just screaming and having a pull blown party and
it's normal now.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Well, speaking of being a team player, obviously we're a
group of at least somewhat grumpy, somewhat introverted people. But
some people obviously are energized by that. They like it.
It gives them more energy. As they say about extroverts
and introverts. Being around people energizes extroverts and it drains

(15:38):
the energy from introverts, and it must be that way
with like loud bars and restaurants and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Well, but are you arguing that the percentage of people
that are introverts is higher among gen z or do
they just wise up to why are we standing in
this super loud bar? Interesting question, Good lord, I can't
come close to answering it. Here are the stats.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Let's see bubba A News finds the two and three
gen z wine enthusiasts, So this people who'd rather drink
wine for what that's worth. Two out of three out
for the comfort of their homes when it comes to drinking,
specifically home. Poll of two thousand American adults between twenty
one and twenty six found those who enjoy wine, only
twenty three percent would choose to go to a bar,
and only eighteen percent would opt for drinking at some

(16:20):
sort of live event. For gen Z wine enthusiasts, having
a glass as an opportunity to be social as hanging
out with friends tops the list of activities they prefer
up partake in while drinking. But they'd really rather do
it at home than out anywhere, maybe elause the cost
of living so high for young people and they're trying

(16:42):
to save money. That was the other thing, because, especially
because I was pretty poor when I was young, is
I could afford like a beer if we went out,
I could have a couple at home. End of discussion.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, that wasn't the right kind of bar. I liked
the more like the more like people in boots bars
because that's where I could sidle up to a table
to girls and they wouldn't notice that I was drinking
all their picture beer because I couldn't afford to buy beer.
You're that guy, and well, girls oftentimes get pictures of beer.
They aren't gonna drink them. They're not really drinkers. They

(17:16):
just they needed to have it sitting there. It's kind
of a prop. I'll take care of that for you. Wow,
this is a rarity.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
The judges reporting a ten on resourcefulness, a ten on creepiness,
and a ten on alcoholism.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
It's a rare triple ten, a perfect score.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Show, Fancy Armstrong and Getty Show, featuring our podcast. One
more Thing, We do a new one every day. Find
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Speaker 2 (17:47):
What the heck happened? An expert weighs in. It's one
more thing.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Before we get to that.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Two quick things.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
One.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
I just looked up at the the Twitter machine and
there is something on there about young people in New
York talking about how they all got punched in the
face because of a recent TikTok challenge in which the
thing was to just walk up and punch people in
the face, and some of the morons do it. I
want a TikTok challenge that is, it's the leave your parents' house,

(18:22):
get a job and support yourself challenge, the follow the law,
pay your taxes, and raise your kids right challenge. See
if that catches on, It'll be waiting forever for that. God.
I saw one the other day where there's a whole
bunch of iterations of this of like, it's just abusing
old people, scaring them basically, and.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
It's just horrific, harsh and draconian penalty act like somebody
broke into the house for grandma and then and you
know get her reaction.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, because she's an old woman who thinks somebody broke
into her home. That's why she reacted that way. Why
is that funny, you freaking moron. You should be in
jail just for this. You know, it's concerning the people
who do that and the people who laugh at it.
Oh my god, this one was a I guess this
was a Jackass thing originally from the Jackass movie. I
saw this on TikTok the other day. It was you

(19:17):
push a stroller with a baby in it, a fake
baby at toy the doll doll is the term fake billy. Yeah,
and bother shirt and the like, you know, the stroller
you accidentally trip and push it into traffic in a
car hits it or something like that, and then you
got the reaction of people who are horrified that a
baby just got ran over. Why is that funny?

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Or you get the people that run out into traffic
trying to stop it. Right, there's another guy that's going
he went viral the other day that was going through
like walmarts and targets and going up to people that
had full carts, families, I mean everything, and just pulling
the cart and knocking it over and knocking this stuff
everywhere and then running away for no reason at all

(20:00):
than to be a dick.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Right, And then their friends film that and put it
on TikTok, and then people watch it and I think
that's okay.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I guess I I well.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
I had them with the algorithm. Is the more attention
they get, they get paid. I'm glad you're young and
complaining about this, because when Joe and I complain about this,
we just sound like you know, old men about modern culture.
But this is a change in society.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Oh yees, yeah, well you're complaining about it. I'm even
now sketching out my plan to form a vigilante group
that's going to find these Internet scoundrels and hunt them
down and give them some real world ass kickings.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Oh I know what it was. So you take the
car carrier thing that you put your baby in, like
when you go into the grocery store, and then come
back and snap it into the car seat. The person
puts it on top of the car, It does some
stuff and then drives off with on top of the car,
and then you film the reactions of everybody freaking out
that you drove off with your baby on top of
your car.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
I do love it New York. There is a hashtag
I punch back, and there.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Are a series of videos of people I'll tell you what,
you come and knock over my cart full of stuff
with my kids there. I'm gonna have to fight myself
to not tackle you. And we're rolling.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Around and find out oh god, damn it. All right,
Well this is troubling and disturbing in the world is
ugly and full of evil anyway. So it turns out
a giant cargo ship took out a bridge in Baltimore
on the day that we are recording this podcast. The
death toll is yet on unknown but at a terrible
disaster and incredibly dramatic video as well. This posted at

(21:37):
Armstrong and Giddy dot com Tuesday, March twenty sixth Anyway,
got this note.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
From twenty thirty two.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Very good. I'm speaking to you from the Moon colony
while Jack remains on Earth. Trump is in his fifteenth term. Finally, finally,
one party rule, as we dreamed of secretly all those
years we were talking about the Constitution. So Al the Mariner,

(22:07):
we'll just call him Al anonymous. I don't think he'd mind,
but does this sort of thing for a living, big
ship shipping and has corresponded with us through the years
whenever something in his realm comes up. And he's quite
knowledgeable and appreciate the note. But I'll read you parts
of his email to us. I watched this with my

(22:31):
captain and cadet. I don't know what a cadet is.
Apparently that's something on a ship, and from what we
can tell, it looks like they lost the plant the
ship's power and or propulsion and collided with the northern
span of the bridge. Yeah, actually twice they lost power.
She meaning the boat most definitely had at least a

(22:51):
harbor pilot on board, and may even have had a
docking pilot on board too. Harbor or bay pilots get
the ship from the sea buoy to the port, and
docking pilots park the ship. Driving a conning a ship
or driving it isn't nearly as simple as most people
think it is.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
I don't think it's simple. I mean it's probably really hard.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Oh. I thought it was hard, and it's harder than
I thought. This ship has a bow thruster one, so okay, whoo.
I'm trying so hard not to laugh. I don't want
to give him the encouragement.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
That was great, Jack, Thank you for that child. God,
my child is right, my son who's twelve, and I
don't think he knows what he's talking about.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Drop to. That's what she said on me the other day.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Because it's popular in school, and I don't think they
most of them know what they're really talking about.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
But I don't see that gives me hope for the
next generation. It really does. Were they discussing China on
the playground? Oh, boy. So the ship has a bow
thruster just like Jack, one slow speed diesel engine, and
one fixed pitch propeller. In order for most of these
types of ships to reverse propulsion, the engineers first have

(24:07):
to have to unclutch the shaft. I won't, I won't good,
shut down the engine, stop the shaft from spinning, restart
the engine backwards, and clutch in the shaft. These ships
are built to run most of their lives going forward
as efficiently as possible, so they are incredibly inefficient trying

(24:28):
to make way a stern backing up. In a perfect world,
it would take a few minutes to start backing down. Well,
this isn't a perfect world.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Wow, I didn't know they could start going backwards that fast.
I figured it took longer than that, longer than what
a few minutes.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
No, in a perfect world, it would take a few
minutes to start backing down. But this is not a
perfect world. With ships, you can't just put it in
reverse first. You are trying to take off tens of
thousands of laws long tons of momentum. It's a term
I'm completely unfamiliar with. With the added delay of the
plant going through its process of getting the stern bell going.

(25:09):
So for the most part, mariners have to maneuver their
way out of an open moment. If you don't have power,
you can't move the hydraulics involved with the rudder to
push your stern. Over most cargoes, vessel pivot point is
a third of the ship's length from the bow to
the so even if we are able to start a turn,
the ship may still have hit the bridge on the

(25:30):
side of the vessel like a glancing blow. Also, with
a fixed pitch prop, you will back up the opposite
side your screw pins. Oh back up to the opposite
side your screwpins. For example, if your prop spins clockwise
going forward, this is called the right handed propeller. Well,
you're trying to back up, your stern will get pushed
to the left. Then he goes into how the rudder works.

(25:51):
But the point is it is a nightmare to maneuver
these things, and you've got to be extremely good at
it because there's so much energy, that much weight in motion.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Well, I know you're seafaring people, Katie. Your dad has
a boat and everything, But if you've ever driven a
boat at all, you know how difficult it can be
to you know, go a certain direction or stop from
going a certain direction if you miscalculate.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Oh yeah, and everything takes extra time. There is no
immediate maneuver on anything on the water.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
And then so our Joe and I's friend Dave, who
lives on a boat down San Diego. Last time I
was with him, I guess it was last Friday, fourth
of July. So we're on his boat and we come
back and he lost motors. He lost one of his motors,
so he lost the motor on one side, so he
could only navigate one direction. And man, we ended up
having a bad thing happen. But we were all on

(26:45):
one side of boat trying to keep us from smashing
into all these other boats and smashing his boat up
against the poles because once you start drifting, and he
got no motors, like that guy was talking about, if
you've got no power, you're just going the direction you
were going.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Yeah, And I don't know if you guys saw that
video where it's sped up where you can see where
this ship is heading towards the bridge.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
I mean the power goes out twice.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
So they're clearly having some big issues, let alone trying
to maneuver this thing.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Right, And I'll get to that in just a second,
but he points out the description of how the rudder
works that and anybody who has a boat knows this.
You can't turn a boat that isn't moving right. It's
got to be moving to turn, and if you need
it to turn quickly, it needs to be going fast.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
If you've driven on snow or ice, you know this
phenomenon also, right.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
So anyway, so they had that problem, and it takes
a long damn time to move a ship like that significantly,
especially at the speeds they were going. Then he says,
all of that being said, the loss of power adds
a massive delay to try to make any corrective action.
In the video you can see the lights cut off
and back on again. We timed it. It took well
over a minute to get power back on. The regulations

(27:54):
say that the emergency diesel generators should only take it
most forty five seconds to store power to the emergency systems.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yeah, that reminds me of the text we got that
said I didn't know Boeing made ships now huh.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, yeah, uh. With this, you'll probably hear why didn't
they just drop an anchor? Well, it doesn't work like
that in the movie Battleship or Contraband. In order for
the flukes of modern anchors to fetch up, you have
to be going almost one knot. I had a captain
tell me one time, never run aground with two anchors
on board. They don't do. But it makes it looks

(28:28):
like you tried everything. Oh okay, so that.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Such just First of all, I didn't think of the
anchor thing. If I'd thought of it, I would have
said that myself. Why didn't they drop the anchor? But
don't run aground without having dropped both anchors, or at
least it looks like you tried.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Wow. Wow. Things like this can have a number of
things go wrong, ranging from misjudgment from the pilot, of
miscommunication between the pilot and captain, or a mistake in
the engine room that caused a loss of power and
or propulsion. Shoot, it could be all three. I highly
recoon keeping an eye on the YouTube channel what is
going on with shipping. The guy there does a great
job at explaining maritime and navy stuff, and he'll break

(29:07):
this down as soon as he has info.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
So these great big giant tanker ships that got all
those containers on them and railroad cars and stuff like that,
or trailers for semis. I mean that gives you the perspective.
It's the only way you can get any perspective on
these things. As they're sitting out in the ocean with
nothing next to them. You look at those things and think,
he's one of those is like a train car or
a container or whatever it is. Yeah, and you think,
oh my god, that's a giant ship.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
But remember so we were at a port in West
Sacramento where they ship lots of rice in and out
from around the world. Remember that guy telling us stories
about those giant ships that come in and there aren't
very many people on those ships, and how weird.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
They all were.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yes, that story, I do you've ever heard this, Katie before.
But they're out there for months, and a lot of
people that work on these ships are very strange people.
Because you're somebody that wants to be on a ship
with northern he human beings and like no entertainment or
anything like that for months by yourself down in the
dark of a ship's people.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
These guys, uh don't even have visus, so they can't
come off the ship. So they'll dock in the US
or dock in some port. That sounds interesting. They're not
allowed to get off the ship.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
They just stay in their dark ship. Yeah, that special
kind of personality for that job.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Right, I was Frank, Right, wasn't that his name?

Speaker 3 (30:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
That was super interesting though.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah, And whenever I see those ships, that's what I
think of. Now, got some really strange mole people living
on that ship.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Romanian mole people must not be allowed off.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
It comes out of my mouth every time we go
on the boat with my family, because we'll go out
of the estuary and we're down on the sea level
looking up at those things, and I'm always like, how
do those how do they float?

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Right? Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, there're you know, some terms
are overused. They are quite literally breasttaking to sea from
anywhere close to them.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Well, they displaced more than the weight of the water
technically is how they float. But that's hard to imagine
that that even happened.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, they what Oh.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Keep your shaft oiled?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Ya am right? An right? Wow? And a clip from shaft.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, that was just all sorts of interfer It was
a multi media presentation you gave us there The.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
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Hot Lakes.

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Speaker 3 (31:38):
A couple of texts before we get to Joe. Why
Joe hates Canadians.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I do not hate Canadians. But that's what you said.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
No, I wasn't paying attention. I have to share this,
says a texture. I took my six year old granddaughter
to San Francisco. While we're walking to lunch, a group
of men rode by in their bikes, absolutely naked. My
granddaughter said, Nana, who is running this place out of
the mouth of babes?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yep, oh wow.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Sort of thing you will see in San Francisco, completely
naked men on bicycles, And some people think that's wonderful
for some reason, that that's like progress for some reason,
I'll ever understand.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
A bunch of twist Tooids.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Also mentioned at the end of the radio show on
the twenty first that it was my birthday and for
some reason, I've never cared less about my birthday than now.
And I'm not exactly sure if it's wisdom and maturity
or depression and I've lost the ability to enjoy life.
But we did get this text your birthday. Everyone has one.

(32:37):
You're not special.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Geez, wow, thank you for that. All right, That's that's
a person I really pity. Yeah, imagine being that unhappy.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I just I don't even know. I don't even know.
When I see that sort of stuff on social media
and you see a lot, it's always like, wow, first
of all, Jack, happy birthday. Second of all that pero,
there you go.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, that has nothing to do with you, obviously, I
know you know that Jack. No, no, no, no, boy,
that's that's entirely about that person.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
When I come across that stuff on social media. Really,
honest to God, the thing I think is I need
to make sure my kids don't end up like that,
to where they're so miserable at the with the lure
lives that they have to strike out at anything that
might be pleasant or happy for someone to get through
the day.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
I mean, Jesus, it's so awful.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Or someone that that maybe isn't so miserable that they
do that, but does it for joy?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:36):
You know there are those.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
People that that, I mean, you see them all over
the Internet that create these accounts just to troll people
because they enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
I've only known I've only I've only personally known two trolls,
but they both had the same attitude. So I'm just
assuming that that's kind of common among the troll community.
They really get such enjoyment of there's somebody happy. I'm
gonna try to take some of that. And it's just
think it's so weird. I've never had that feeling. You know, somebody,

(34:05):
somebody's a sickness, somebody got somebody got a new car,
and I say, I heard they suck or just something
like that.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
What what is that like? Why? Well, as I've always said,
people who are too dopey or lazy to build things,
the only satisfaction they get is from breaking things. And
again that's pathetic.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah, it's like the person who vandalizes the playground equipment.
I mean, it's the same sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
It's just awful. The only effect they will ever have
on the world before they are dead is to break
things and hurt people, So that's what they do. And
and again it's it's just painfully pathetic. What is a
birthday dinner for you?

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yeah? Well, I'm gonna go eat steak tonight and some
sort of ill advised dessert. Be my guess, it's more
from my kids than me. I don't know if I
would even leave the house tonight if it birthday. Bang
bang Oh boy, that sounds like a challenge. Steak five pushups,
that's the that's the deal. A bang bang is back

(35:06):
to back meals of completely different kinds. So what do
I follow steak with pizza? Stop and get a pizza?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Oh oh, steak is a dense, dense first blow.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
It's gonna leave a mark.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah wow. Following up steak something completely different, nice uh
Ramen restaurant or something that's a little hipster for you.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Maybe Italian though in the noodle the noodle realm.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Well right, let's go Raman adjacent I like the spaghetti
and meatballs. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
I did an accidental bang bang with my brother when
he was in town when I had cancer. We ate
a pizza not knowing my wife was making dinner, and
then we got home and she had made a big dinner,
like a big homemade dinner because my brother was in town,
and so you can't, you know, so she colums the
word We had stuffed ourselves with pizza, but then brought
it hard for that homemade dinner.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Also, well, wait, a man up.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, I commend you for that. It's just the polite
thing to this

Speaker 2 (36:05):
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