December 17, 2024 • 35 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- The Madison, WI school shooting & fake profiles on social media after tragedy
- Late night joke off! Drone edition!
- Caitlin Clark & the issue of race
- Southwest seat changes causing irritation
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Jettie and he I'm strong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
A second grade student called nine to one one to
report a shooting had occurred at school. I'm gonna let that,
so can for a minute the second grade.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Student, all right, we're not actually going to talk about
the school shooting, or at least I'm not actually going
to talk about school shooting. I've got some media comments though.
First of all, I was listening to a podcast the
other day and some woman from the Washington Post, who's
a conservative for the Washington Post, was actually talking about
She said, I'd before all my talking about these shootings
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at all. The guy who shot the CEO of United Harald,
the carriage school shot. Just let's just not do the stories.
Let's just not do them at all.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
She said.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I know that's crazy, and it has the downside. Well,
let's just not give these people any air. There's clearly
a contagion effect, and I have agreed with that for
a very long time. But I keep looking up at
the TV and seeing this tiny little girl.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Probably the second grader being interviewed.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Mom, Dad, You know it's off limits for a parent
to criticize another parent's parenting.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Don't freaking have your eight year old talking to the brass.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
They're not here tout the most traumatic thing that will
ever happen in their lives over and over and over again.
That's insane. I'll criticize their parenting. What is the matter
with you? Get that girl home and away from the cameras.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Now, well, I could cut it off at don't let
your eight year old talk to the media without even
anything after that. I don't care what the topic is.
They're not there to make your kids life better, trust me.
But on this topic, especially good lord, who's sticking a
microphone in this little kid's face?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
If the piglet winds are riven at the Wisconsin State Fair,
then they can.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Talk to the media. That really bothers me. Yeah, so
and wise, But I got to ask this.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
This is a media thing, not a school shooting thing
or shooting thing at all. As I figure out how
to take in media in the modern world, I've been
saying for a long time now that Twitter is like
the best way to get information on a big media story.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
When it happens. Pick one, like when Trump was shot.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I was getting all kinds of information when Trump was
shot an hour before the New York Times would have it,
or CBS News or whatever. But you do have to
wait through a lot of stuff that's not true. You
have to have a.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Talent for it.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Stuff that's in that doesn't seem true, or that's too
crazy to be true, or I'll have to see that
confirmed or something like that. As opposed to just running
with everything you come across. Is if it's clearly true
because somebody tweeted it was the shooter trans.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I've come across no information that that is true.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I would agree at this point as yet.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
But yesterday when I jumped on Twitter, it was just
full of fake pictures, real pictures, fake Facebook pages, all
kinds of different stuff trying to make the point that
the shooter was trans. How do we is this just
going to be the rest of our lives. You've got
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a crowd out there that wanted the shooter to be trans.
You got a crowd out there that wants the shooter
to be a Trump supporter. You got a crowd obviously
that wants the shooter to be black. Shooting white people,
white shooting black people, all the different things and the
amount of time they put into faking up a profile,
faking up a Facebook page, faking up a Twitter account,
faking up an email, faking up pictures, faking up audio
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I mean including audio AI stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I mean, who does.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
This for one thing? Outside of China, Russia and North
Korean Iran? But are there are these? Are some of
you out there? You get a kick out of this,
like making up a profile for a fake person just
to what cause problems?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Well, I think it's a combination of you know, fooling
some of the people some of the time for political
purposes to rally people to your cause. And if I
you know, happy to agree with you, I certainly don't
agree with your methods. And the other part of it
is just klickonomics, just wanting to be the popular panderer.
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I'm gonna tell my followers exactly what they want to hear,
and I'll send it along to their friends who will
be gratified by it too, and I'll get more followers,
be more popular, maybe make a few bucks, or maybe
just be a big wheel.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You know what, I didn't do it, and I should
have done as I was going through this stuff is
clicked on the person that was tweeting it out and
then gone to their home Twitter feed to see because
sometimes it's you know, they got one follower and they've
been online for a month, that's when you know it's
a Russian bot or a Chinese bot.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And even if it's a real person, if they got
like two followers, why is anybody listening to them? But
it somehow gets into the feed the stream. I don't
know what we do.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
About that phenomenon other than get better in this weight.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Before anybody draws any conclusions, I would say, as I've
said for many, many years, if your concern is, for instance,
I don't know the way they covered up that one
trans shooter, which the shooter actually was trans, and I
don't remember which one that was.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I was just going to bring that whole thing up. Okay, yeah,
but they covered that.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Up more or less. I mean, they didn't soft pedal,
did it.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It wasn't exactly a cover up, but it was definitely
soft pedal, like, we're not putting the story out there.
If that bothered you, getting out a fake trans shooter
doesn't help your cause. I think it hurts your cause.
Oh yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I mean, that's that's a great like coda to what
I was going to say, which is the Nashville Christian
School shooter, who was a female, was quote unquote transgender,
meaning confused and led down the path of radical gender
theory by various mentorists discussing it's sick, it's terrible taking
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a confused adolescent and manipulating them for your purposes. She
was particularly angry at the Christian school because generally speaking,
the more religious people are, the less likely they are
to be into the whole neo Marxist gender bending madness stuff,
and so she decided to punish Christians for not supporting
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her in her utterly futile quest to be happier by
changing into a dude. That was the story. It's troubling.
She had a manifesto that the media had zero interest in.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It's funny.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Every killer's manifesto, with every cause imaginable, has been absolute.
Just honey for a bear, accept that manifesto?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So odd? That is all true.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It's no less true if this chick was just an
angry chick. It's no more true if this chick was
another one of them. I get that, you know, more
evidence builds the case, but yeah, don't you don't need
to go there, have confidence in your beliefs and then
wait for the facts to come in. But I don't,
you know, I feel like a man standing on the
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beach shouting at the tide not to come in. It's
just the new environment we all live in, and we
have to be better at processing it or it will
tear us apart and ruin the empire.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I don't know now, I don't exactly know how, like
the community notes work on Twitter. But the first tweet
I saw claiming this shooter was trans and it had
a couple of it's had the picture when he was
a boy and now as a girl. The community notes
on Twitter were, this is not real, this is actually
this is who this actually is, So this isn't real.
(07:57):
I thought, okay, cool, But then I saw this same
tweet more or less, you know, half a page down
that didn't have the community notes on it. So I
don't know how that whole algorithm works or not yet anyway, Yeah,
if Elon can get better at that or whatever, but
that's troubling.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
That's troubling. There wasn't advantage.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Community notes are actual human beings like me. I've done
some who take a minute to say, hey, this is
your research it and you put the note there and
then people voted uppertown or but there's no and it
becomes a note.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
But apparently there's no way for that community note because
you caught that one tweet for it to end up
on a different tweet with exactly the same message.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Apparently not point about the algorithm.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, there was an advantage when there was a gatekeeper,
like it was the CBS Evening News in New York
Times or whoever. As much as I hated their left
leaning this and that, there was some advantage when there
were some gatekeepers that wouldn't run with complete crap, you know,
moments after something happened and have everybody an uproar order
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something that wasn't true.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Well right, because you know it's the world is very
flat now and your ability to have a platform depends
on nothing but having a social media account. Now you
have to be elevated by a certain level of popularity
for many people to see your takes. But the problem
is the process of elevating people might just be who
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panders the most successfully, who has the most extreme opinions.
You know, just being a bomb chucking lunatic wouldn't get
you a gig on the CBS Evening News. You have
to be good at what you did and reliable and
check your sources and the rest of it. Yeah, they
leaned left, but they're pretty good journalists. And so this
new world where you can get elevated for the worst
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of reasons, it's going to be challenging to navigate down down. Say,
I don't know if we can. Honestly, I'm a wait
and see guy on all of this stuff. You have
societies like Russia in particular, that nobody believes anything and
everybody he walks around bitterly cynical and borderline hopeless. Which, sorry,
(10:05):
it's the Christmas season. Why am I bringing you down?
Because I'm a realist.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, I've been taking in some of the stuff from
Syrians who had such a limited view of what was
going on in the world because of the assad's ability
to control information.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Can I confess something awful? I'm not a Catholic man.
I've never been to confession, partly because there's so many sins.
I mean, the priest would finally throw me out. Dude,
there are people in line.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right, my family's expecting me at home. I guess, I
guess that wouldn't be the guess with it. You've made
it through the felonies.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, the felonies, the perversities. You die.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I'm thrown up twice. That's enough.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Come back next week. Tell me more anyway, and try
thing between now and next week. All right, this makes
me a bad person.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
When Seeing had.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Their dramatic live television moment and freed that poor beleaguered prisoner,
I was thinking at the time, it's been like a week.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Why is this guy still locked in a room? This
seems odd to me.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
There's something odd going on here. And then it turns
out he was in there because he was a brutal
torturer and the other inmates have had thrown him in
there or what have you.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And then you.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Know, and he came out and faked being sensitive to delight.
But he was like pudgy and well, really healthy looking
and all. The fact that CNN got duped makes me happy.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Where's that guy? Now?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Did he disappear back out into the public and he's
going to be able to get away?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I'll bet he did. I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
I read the PostScript to that that the new authorities
had done something or other. But I don't know, because
he should be torn on limb for limb or set
on fire or something by the rebels. Oh yeah, yeah,
because he would torture people for politics, then he just
torture them for and only stop if your family paid
him off. I mean, yeah, he had a well, there
isn't a fate awful enough for him, although.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Locking him in there is wouldn't a bad idea, and
just dying of thirst and the hunger and being alone
in there is not awesome either, So they didn't have
a bad plan because I'm surprised they didn't beat him
to death when they had the chance, right for they
were in a hurry to get out of there.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Anyway, nice job seeing and very dramatic party, had no viewers. Hey,
I hate to take that shot because Clariss Ward's a
great report. Yeah, and yeah, it's not her fault out
you know, now, unfortunate series of events that made me happy,
which makes me a bad person, which will be part
of your confession, your very very long list as previously referenced. Right,
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we got more from the Trump press conference.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Men the city Council meeting in Chicago got crazy yesterday
as people are very angry with how much money the
mayor is spending on illegals.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Got a whole bunch of other stuff to talk about.
I hope you can stay here.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Jesus Pabla, Harry Jet them mixed, all those guys, the
neo crooners. Yeah, cool stuff like this.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
A little Christmas decorating today.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So before we get to the new latest news of
the day on the drones, we got the late night
comics of course, made some jokes about the drones last night,
so we thought we could.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Have a late night joke off.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yeah, all three of them are going to take a shot. Well,
three of them are going to take shot. We'll rank
each joke and and grade it with a letter grade.
The bottom grade getter is banned from comedy for life.
Let's hear of Michael.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Well, guys, Christmas is just nine days away, and everyone's
in the spirit. Tonight I was admiring all the beautiful lights,
and then I realized that there was.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Just the drones over New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Yeah, everyone's talking about these mysterious drones that keep appearing
over New Jersey. Nobody knows where they come from or
why they exist. It's basically air crypto. Everything annoyed about
the drones right now. The Chinese by balloons are like staying.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Your lane, girl, staying in your life.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Because as of today, the drone armada has also been
spotted in New York, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Ohio, which
can mean only one thing. The drones are visiting colleges. Remember, drones,
don't worry about going to the best school. Go to
the school where you can be your best self.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
The drones flying over in New Jersey.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
I mean, if they were still making new Sopranos episodes,
Tony would definitely be flying drones.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
WHOA still check this out. You can take pictures of
your neighbor's house. I don't know anything about no drones.
D Maybe we had drones, we wouldn't have lost it
rushing in the woods. Wow, didn't go great. I feel
great about it. That was a stretch. Wow.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Wow, Yeah, this is uh. We're going into the fine
print of the grading system here. Fellon with a B
plus for good naturedness, Colbert with a B. It was
all right, Myers with an A, but a full grade
deduction for you've got to be a huge soprance.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And the little data there, that's so the ashshale news
on the drones. Senator Doug Mastriano, who is the other
Pennsylvania Senator who doesn't get any attention because his cohart
is Fetterman.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Throw on the hoodie, Doug, or a tank top or something.
You gotta go with, novelty garb these you gotta have
a brand.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
This is a sitting US senator where they're now seeing drones.
He said, it's inconceivable that the federal government has no
answers nor has taken any action to get to the
bottom of the unidentified drones. The fecklands specklessness of this
administration was on display last year when a Chinese surveillance
balloon was allowed to fly over the entire United States.
Such should be viewed as a threat to our nation
and citizens, and action.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Is long overdue. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
So that's a sitting US senator who has no answers.
While just a little bit ago er. This morning, a
number of federal agencies signed onto a letter together saying
there is no threat to the public from the drones,
but they're still saying they don't have any answers. If
they would come out and say, we know what they are,
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trust us, there's no threat. But they're saying we don't
know what they are and there's no threat, which doesn't
fit together as a thought correct.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Yeah, and I think that's universally recognized. I think America
is developing a sense of people know what's happening, just
go ahead and tell us, which it's a tough one.
It depends on the nature of the what they're doing
in whites classified, and it could be they just can't
find a way to tell.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Us part of it. I hope that's it.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I hope it's that we're on such the cutting edge
of drone defenses and drone warfare that it's just too
advanced to share with the people and not just buy
and style and competence.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
They can't even share it with us senators though apparently.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Well you can't trust senators, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
The curious case of Caitlan Clark coming up next to
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Jimangioni retained a new high powered former Manhattan prosecutor and
a defense fund set up for the suspect reached one
hundred and fifteen thousand dollars, though it's unclear if his
defense team will accept that money.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I'm happy to hear it's only one hundred and fifteen
thousand dollars. As a guy who's had a lot of
legal bills in the last couple of years, that ain't much.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It won't last long.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
So yeah, oh, brother, So I want to talk about
the Caitlin Clark situation and how it is just such
a beautiful illustration of the stupidity, the awfulness, and the
utter destructiveness of racialism which has had its moment in
the country. You know, thanks to Derek chauven and George
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Floyd and the rest of it, nobody could speak out
against its excesses.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
For a little while.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
And the whole everything's about race and should be out
race and everything should be viewed through the lens of
race at bubba idea, which is insidious, horrible, Unamerican.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Well, remember sudden that rule of the day, Remember that
polling we had last week where every group wants a
color blind society, like everybody, Republicans, Democrats, old, young, white,
only only black people slightly wanted a race focused.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Society right, and yet I hear the listeners shouting hit
the speaker right now. I had to sit through six
hours of white people are bad training to keep my job,
to keep my professorship, you know, to teach, to keep
my teaching gig, and the rest of it, just even
though virtually nobody is in favor of this madness. But
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so anyway, if you're familiar with the story, I'll hit
the basics of it. Caitlin Clark was on the cover
of Time website used to be a magazine honoring her
as the athlete of the year, and indeed the young
woman who it was pointed out elsewhere. And forgive me
if this isn't exactly right, but she was All American
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College several times, brought her team to the National Championship
Game two consecutive years, reinvented the women's game, electrified the
college audiences.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
All time leading scorer, and then the crowds she's drawn
in the WNBA like NBA sized crowds. It's been amazing,
raining shots down from where they've never been taken before.
A silky passer in the style of Larry Bird. Just
a really exciting player happens to be a white woman
playing in the WNBA, which is a predominantly black league
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like the NBA itself, and the reaction to Caitlin Clark's
success and what it's done for the WNBA has been
incredibly strange and troubling.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
They are all sorts of players.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I've got all sorts of quotes here about Ajah Wilson
of the Las Vegas Aces, the league's MVP, said it's
straight out Clark's race was a huge reason for her popularity. Quote,
it doesn't matter what we do, as black women were
still going to be swept underneath the rug. That's why
it boils my blood when people say it's not about race,
because it was.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You have team owners.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Shila Johnson, the black owner of the Washington Mystics, echoed Wilson,
telling CNN the only reason Clark was getting any claim
was because she was white. I feel really bad because
I've seen so many players of color that are equally
as talented never got the recognition that they should have.
Why couldn't they put the whole WNBA on the cover
and say the WNBA is the League of the Year.
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People commented that thirty one percent of her team's attendance
for the entire season came from the two games they
played against Caitlin Clark's Indiana Fever.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Wow. Almost a third Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I would like to run in a parallel universe, same
status with a black girl from Iowa or from wherever,
exact same status, all through college, all through pros.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
And see what the reaction would be. Well, that's a
great thought. And here's my analysis of that experiment. In
a world where you got white kids all over the
place idolizing black NFL players and black NBA players, if
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it turned out that for whatever reason, people can relate
more and root more to people for people who look
like them, that just is what it is.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
What are you going to do? Now?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Are you going to and I'm going to get to
a part that's just so idiotic and suicidal. If that's
the case, how about you embrace the incredible exciting fund
to watch Caitlyn Clark because she has lifted all boats.
All the salaries are going up, all the attendance is
going up, all the attention's going up. If, for whatever reason,
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a country that's more white than black roots more for
this super exciting white player, use her a quote unquote
as a business and say Hey, how about this passing
from this gal and people will see her and say, wow,
what a ballplayer.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, that's exactly what Charles Barkley said. He said, the
WNBA has mishandled this so badly. It's the greatest gift
that's ever happened to them since the league started.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
And they're screwed it up. Oh yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
They're either attacking her or belly aching that it's happening
or grumbling that it shouldn't be happening their own league.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
It's suicidal. And look, I'm a football fan.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
I know a lot of football fans of a bunch
of different teams, and a number of the teams have
just absolutely outstanding black quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And here eat a single one of them.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Who roots less for that quarterback because he's darker of skin.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
This is not the way sports fans work.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, I don't doubt that Kaitlin Clark gets more attention
because she's white in a predominantly black sport.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
But straight might have something to do with it too, honestly,
because the vast majority of people are straight.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
But I don't think the skin color plays as big
a role as a lot of people are claiming.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I mean, because.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
She she did score more points than anybody ever has
in women's or men's college basketball history. She's the all
time leading scorer for men and women, Right, I mean
that's I I've seeing lots of black players every bit
as talented, as productive, as exciting to watch.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I don't think so. Right.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
And again, even if you're right, what does that tell you?
And this is a beautiful example of progressivism? The answer,
like that that owner of the Washington Mystics would give you,
is well, we need to change humanity.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
We need to change human names.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Sure, we need to fundamentally reorder human psychees. Yeah, okay,
good luck with that, or just market Caitlin Clark is
one of a bunch of great players, and watch your
league grow. Anyway, So perhaps you heard about this which
which happened first. I guess Caitlyn Clark's interview with Maria
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Taylor happened first. Michael, go ahead and play clip sixteen.
Here's where it gets a little twisted. Caitlin Clarks is
a young woman fresh out at college working in the WNBA,
and the people around her are saying, you should have
white guilt because you have unfairly exploited your skin color.
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And here's how the conversation went.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
And I feel like you have had to answer more
questions than anybody about the intersectionality of race and gender
and sexuality in sport because of just who you are,
and you represent the growth of this thing. And even today,
early today Meg and Kelly, she was saying that you were.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Apologizing for your white privilege.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
And the fact that you wanted to uplift black female
athletes and make sure that they were getting the shine
kind of like your pioneers were getting the shine that
they deserved. And I just want to know how you
feel or how you respond to some of those criticisms
when you have to deal with something that it's really
not your problem, Like I feel like it's them looking
in a mirror a little bit, but it still comes
down on your shoulders. I feel like I always have
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had really good perspective on everything that's kind of happened
in my life, whether that's been good, whether that's been bad.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah, yeah, not that clip. I thought it was. I'm
sorry when this happens, I'd misread the description. We have
a clip not long ago, a few days ago, of
Caitlin Clark talking about how you know her she feels
her white privilege and is aware of it and the
rest of it.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Anyway, Sorry for the confusion, but.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
To what she just said there, I perfectly read that
was a long.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Speech by the interviewer. What the hell was that?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
But a perfectly reasonable answer to any of this stuff
as a twenty two year old who, I guarantee when
Caitlyn Clark gets up in the morning, the thing she's
thinking about the most is how do I make my
upper body stronger to compete in the league and how
do I increase my blah blah blah about playing That's
what's mostly on her mind.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
But I'd be perfectly reasonable to.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Say I never think about any of this stuff at
all ever in my life.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Is the answer. I think about basketball ninety nine percent
of the time.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah, yeah, that's that would be a good thing to say.
And I wish we had the original clip. It doesn't matter.
But I'm not gonna hate on Kate Len Clark. She's
she's a woman child, she's a kid fresh out of college. Yes,
she has been indoctrinated, and that's that's fine. She'll real
life will teach her reality soon enough. I would think
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and a lot of people commented on her bending the
knee to the racial grievance industry, and as opposed she did.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So she's supposed to take on your fight, my fight,
whatever against this white privilege nonsense, which I do think
is nonsense. But she's supposed to do that as a
basketball player. That make her life fun. Wouldn't that be
fun to end up being the I'm gonna stand up
against white privileged person.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Man.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That'll be a good time in my twenties. Oh yeah,
I wouldn't ask her to do that in a locker.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Room full of young women's, many of whom of color,
who believe this stuff. So yeah, we can't ask that
of her. Go play exciting baseball or basketball rather, and
we'll deal with the rest of it. I read a
great story this is a little sports team, but about
when Larry Bird came into the league, a predominantly black
league even then, and how there's a little bit of oh,
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the white boys getting all the attention, and whether through
unbelievable play or if somebody wanted to throw a punch,
he'd throw on right back. The respect came and it
quickly became not about race at all. And you know,
I would love to see a little more of that here,
but it's a different time, in a different situation, WNBA,
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and partly because women are different than men. But this
is maybe the first and only time I've ever quoted
Lebron James in my life, and he tweeted this out
a couple of months ago. If you don't rock with
Caitlyn Clark and her game, you're just a flat out hater.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
But these people do hate. They are haters. Oh that's right.
I want to talk about this too real quickly, Rich,
How is your daughter? Just thinking? Is myself?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
If Kaitlyn Clark was your daughter, what would you have
told her before she got into all this mess? I
think I'd have gone with the All I think about
is basketball. I don't think about any of this stuff.
I would say, take care of business. You will, you
have enough on your plate. You have a big enough
challenge in front of you. Don't try to fix the world.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
You'd have to.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
You'd have to like practice though, because people are gonna
would try to shame her. They already are try to
sham her into having answer. Oh yeah, you owe it
to the pioneers of the league. I don't you don't
owe it to anybody to do anything other didn't show
up and play as hard as I can. Yeah, that's
and that's it's a misunderstanding of the free market and
how beautiful it is and how well it works, and
how it eliminates racism. And Milton Friedman wrote some great
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stuff about this, and I can't remember I've seen some
other stuff. But since you're the entire question is what
is the best interaction. What is the best transaction I
can have? If the best transaction is with somebody who
doesn't look like me, if I miss out on that,
I lose.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I'm an idiot.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Whereas the uh A free economy is how people get
to know each other and cast aside their preconceptions. Let
Caitlin Clark play, let her play hard, let her play
against black people or whatever and white people, and and just.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Let it play out.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Quit trying to come up with a like an action
plan to manage the WNBA and manage the economy and
manage everybody's interactions at work, for instance. Now, just just
let us go about our business. It's going to be fine.
I wanted to get into some of the idiotic reactions
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to the Daniel penny verdict.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
We can hit that another time.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
But anybody who's trying to make it all about race
is a race hustler in a liar.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
It's not race hustlers and liars everywhere. He's gonna keep fighting.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Oh, I'm flying over Christmas break and Southwest Airlines has
gotten a rid of their seating thing that everybody liked
for so long. There's now a signed seating which ends
any advantage to being a list. It looks like to
me as far as I can tell. But you you're
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gonna want to know about this if you fly Southwest
before you get on your next flight, because it's completely different.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I had a bunch of other stuff on the way.
Stay here.
Speaker 9 (30:52):
We're going to head out to Moscow, where the head
of Russia's Nuclear and Chemical defense forces was killed by
a bomb this morning, and Ukraine is openly claiming responsibility.
Russian officials say this explosive device was hidden in a
scooter and left outside the apartment building of the target.
Ukrainian security sources tell CBS News the country's security agency
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conducted a quote special operation to assassinate this General Igor Kyrillof,
and just yesterday Ukraine also charged him in connection with
Russia's use of illegal chemical weapons inside the country of Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Did Ukraine have the ability to pull that off on
their own or was the CIA helping with that? That's
what I would like to know. We may not know
for fifty years. That sounds like God, maybe that sounds
like a very CIA slash Masade sort of operation right there.
I mean to get into the capitol or Russia and
blow and know where this guy was, blow him up,
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get a bomb into a scooter.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
That's some pretty sophisticated stuff right there. Yeah, I don't know,
is it pretty?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
I suppose I'm just picturing each side's advantage. I could
see the Ukrainians doing it that they know the landscape,
they look Russian, the many speed crushing. Anyway, quit using
chemical weapons, you son of a bitch.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
So next year, Southwest Airlines starts their assigned seating thing
that they're going to roll out in bits. And if
you're a list and have worked hard to be an
a list person, that's just gonna cease meaning much so
get used to it.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
That's where I am.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Well, you get crack the first crack at the comfier
seats because they're going to be a little more leg
roomy and stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
No, you kind of do, but you kind of don't,
depending on whether people that signed up for assigned seats
and bought them took them or not. So uh yeah, yeah,
it's gonna be a lot like other airlines, which maybe
you like that.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I just don't think humanity can handle the honor system
that Southwest kind of depended on anymore. There's too many
people cheating the system.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Oh really, no honor?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yeah yeah, faken you know they need extra time to
get on board.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
The number of people that need wheelchairs that's exploded in
recent years.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
But as always, there's a miracle healing in the air
because they walk off under their own power when they
get to their destination.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Twenty wheelchairs when you take off, two wheelchairs when you land.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah yeah, sorry, Do you have more on that or no? Okay,
So I just came across this Elizabeth Williamson, who's one
of the elite reporters at the elite New York Times
that just declared that they're going to have gender neutral
bathrooms because of their transgender employees needs. Even though it
lets there's like one percent of their employees who are
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either gender fluid or trans or whatever. Now they got
tampons in the men's rooms. New York Times has lost
its mind. But anyway, this Elizabeth Williamson has published this story.
I asked Richard Grinnell, he is the Trump cabinet member,
a longtime advisor, a gay man. Not that that matters really,
but she said, ask Richard Garnell three times about his
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priorities for his new role. He chose not to answer
those questions. Mister Grenell did not immediately reply to blah
blah blah, and Grennell just tweeted New York Times reporter
Liz What's her face?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Lied?
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Yet again, I did respond to her increase, she said,
I didn't. Here's what I sent Liz directly. Please use
this on the record. You aren't a real reporter. You're
an anti republican elitist. You may think people believe your writings,
but everyone dismisses what you say because it's always the
same negative gossip toward conservatives. We see you clearly. I
don't even think your many and constant mistakes are worth
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mentioning to your editors. It's better to mock you. Publicly
for making the mistakes you always make. You have ruined
your credibility with your constant advocacy for the far left.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
That's good stuff right there.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
What she characterized in the article is Grannell did not respond.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yay did.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
We had Grannell on the show when we were in Milwaukee.
He was one of my favoritavorite people we talk to.
He is very impressive, brilliant guy.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
I really enjoyed the chat. Looking forward to seeing what
he can achieve in the new administration.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I want to hear about this New York Times tampons
in the men's room thing, gender bending madness.
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Jettie and he I'm strong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
A second grade student called nine to one one to
report a shooting had occurred at school. I'm gonna let that,
so can for a minute the second grade.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Student, all right, we're not actually going to talk about
the school shooting, or at least I'm not actually going
to talk about school shooting. I've got some media comments though.
First of all, I was listening to a podcast the
other day and some woman from the Washington Post, who's
a conservative for the Washington Post, was actually talking about
She said, I'd before all my talking about these shootings
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at all. The guy who shot the CEO of United Harald,
the carriage school shot. Just let's just not do the stories.
Let's just not do them at all.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
She said.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I know that's crazy, and it has the downside. Well,
let's just not give these people any air. There's clearly
a contagion effect, and I have agreed with that for
a very long time. But I keep looking up at
the TV and seeing this tiny little girl.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Probably the second grader being interviewed.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Mom, Dad, You know it's off limits for a parent
to criticize another parent's parenting.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Don't freaking have your eight year old talking to the brass.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
They're not here tout the most traumatic thing that will
ever happen in their lives over and over and over again.
That's insane. I'll criticize their parenting. What is the matter
with you? Get that girl home and away from the cameras.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Now, well, I could cut it off at don't let
your eight year old talk to the media without even
anything after that. I don't care what the topic is.
They're not there to make your kids life better, trust me.
But on this topic, especially good lord, who's sticking a
microphone in this little kid's face?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
If the piglet winds are riven at the Wisconsin State Fair,
then they can.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Talk to the media. That really bothers me. Yeah, so
and wise, But I got to ask this.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
This is a media thing, not a school shooting thing
or shooting thing at all. As I figure out how
to take in media in the modern world, I've been
saying for a long time now that Twitter is like
the best way to get information on a big media story.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
When it happens. Pick one, like when Trump was shot.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I was getting all kinds of information when Trump was
shot an hour before the New York Times would have it,
or CBS News or whatever. But you do have to
wait through a lot of stuff that's not true. You
have to have a.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Talent for it.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Stuff that's in that doesn't seem true, or that's too
crazy to be true, or I'll have to see that
confirmed or something like that. As opposed to just running
with everything you come across. Is if it's clearly true
because somebody tweeted it was the shooter trans.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I've come across no information that that is true.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I would agree at this point as yet.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
But yesterday when I jumped on Twitter, it was just
full of fake pictures, real pictures, fake Facebook pages, all
kinds of different stuff trying to make the point that
the shooter was trans. How do we is this just
going to be the rest of our lives. You've got
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a crowd out there that wanted the shooter to be trans.
You got a crowd out there that wants the shooter
to be a Trump supporter. You got a crowd obviously
that wants the shooter to be black. Shooting white people,
white shooting black people, all the different things and the
amount of time they put into faking up a profile,
faking up a Facebook page, faking up a Twitter account,
faking up an email, faking up pictures, faking up audio
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I mean including audio AI stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I mean, who does.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
This for one thing? Outside of China, Russia and North
Korean Iran? But are there are these? Are some of
you out there? You get a kick out of this,
like making up a profile for a fake person just
to what cause problems?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Well, I think it's a combination of you know, fooling
some of the people some of the time for political
purposes to rally people to your cause. And if I
you know, happy to agree with you, I certainly don't
agree with your methods. And the other part of it
is just klickonomics, just wanting to be the popular panderer.
(04:31):
I'm gonna tell my followers exactly what they want to hear,
and I'll send it along to their friends who will
be gratified by it too, and I'll get more followers,
be more popular, maybe make a few bucks, or maybe
just be a big wheel.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You know what, I didn't do it, and I should
have done as I was going through this stuff is
clicked on the person that was tweeting it out and
then gone to their home Twitter feed to see because
sometimes it's you know, they got one follower and they've
been online for a month, that's when you know it's
a Russian bot or a Chinese bot.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And even if it's a real person, if they got
like two followers, why is anybody listening to them? But
it somehow gets into the feed the stream. I don't
know what we do.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
About that phenomenon other than get better in this weight.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Before anybody draws any conclusions, I would say, as I've
said for many, many years, if your concern is, for instance,
I don't know the way they covered up that one
trans shooter, which the shooter actually was trans, and I
don't remember which one that was.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I was just going to bring that whole thing up. Okay, yeah,
but they covered that.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Up more or less. I mean, they didn't soft pedal,
did it.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It wasn't exactly a cover up, but it was definitely
soft pedal, like, we're not putting the story out there.
If that bothered you, getting out a fake trans shooter
doesn't help your cause. I think it hurts your cause.
Oh yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I mean, that's that's a great like coda to what
I was going to say, which is the Nashville Christian
School shooter, who was a female, was quote unquote transgender,
meaning confused and led down the path of radical gender
theory by various mentorists discussing it's sick, it's terrible taking
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a confused adolescent and manipulating them for your purposes. She
was particularly angry at the Christian school because generally speaking,
the more religious people are, the less likely they are
to be into the whole neo Marxist gender bending madness stuff,
and so she decided to punish Christians for not supporting
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her in her utterly futile quest to be happier by
changing into a dude. That was the story. It's troubling.
She had a manifesto that the media had zero interest in.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It's funny.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Every killer's manifesto, with every cause imaginable, has been absolute.
Just honey for a bear, accept that manifesto?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So odd? That is all true.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It's no less true if this chick was just an
angry chick. It's no more true if this chick was
another one of them. I get that, you know, more
evidence builds the case, but yeah, don't you don't need
to go there, have confidence in your beliefs and then
wait for the facts to come in. But I don't,
you know, I feel like a man standing on the
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beach shouting at the tide not to come in. It's
just the new environment we all live in, and we
have to be better at processing it or it will
tear us apart and ruin the empire.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I don't know now, I don't exactly know how, like
the community notes work on Twitter. But the first tweet
I saw claiming this shooter was trans and it had
a couple of it's had the picture when he was
a boy and now as a girl. The community notes
on Twitter were, this is not real, this is actually
this is who this actually is, So this isn't real.
(07:57):
I thought, okay, cool, But then I saw this same
tweet more or less, you know, half a page down
that didn't have the community notes on it. So I
don't know how that whole algorithm works or not yet anyway, Yeah,
if Elon can get better at that or whatever, but
that's troubling.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
That's troubling. There wasn't advantage.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Community notes are actual human beings like me. I've done
some who take a minute to say, hey, this is
your research it and you put the note there and
then people voted uppertown or but there's no and it
becomes a note.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
But apparently there's no way for that community note because
you caught that one tweet for it to end up
on a different tweet with exactly the same message.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Apparently not point about the algorithm.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, there was an advantage when there was a gatekeeper,
like it was the CBS Evening News in New York
Times or whoever. As much as I hated their left
leaning this and that, there was some advantage when there
were some gatekeepers that wouldn't run with complete crap, you know,
moments after something happened and have everybody an uproar order
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something that wasn't true.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Well right, because you know it's the world is very
flat now and your ability to have a platform depends
on nothing but having a social media account. Now you
have to be elevated by a certain level of popularity
for many people to see your takes. But the problem
is the process of elevating people might just be who
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panders the most successfully, who has the most extreme opinions.
You know, just being a bomb chucking lunatic wouldn't get
you a gig on the CBS Evening News. You have
to be good at what you did and reliable and
check your sources and the rest of it. Yeah, they
leaned left, but they're pretty good journalists. And so this
new world where you can get elevated for the worst
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of reasons, it's going to be challenging to navigate down down. Say,
I don't know if we can. Honestly, I'm a wait
and see guy on all of this stuff. You have
societies like Russia in particular, that nobody believes anything and
everybody he walks around bitterly cynical and borderline hopeless. Which, sorry,
(10:05):
it's the Christmas season. Why am I bringing you down?
Because I'm a realist.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, I've been taking in some of the stuff from
Syrians who had such a limited view of what was
going on in the world because of the assad's ability
to control information.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Can I confess something awful? I'm not a Catholic man.
I've never been to confession, partly because there's so many sins.
I mean, the priest would finally throw me out. Dude,
there are people in line.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right, my family's expecting me at home. I guess, I
guess that wouldn't be the guess with it. You've made
it through the felonies.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, the felonies, the perversities. You die.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I'm thrown up twice. That's enough.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Come back next week. Tell me more anyway, and try
thing between now and next week. All right, this makes
me a bad person.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
When Seeing had.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Their dramatic live television moment and freed that poor beleaguered prisoner,
I was thinking at the time, it's been like a week.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Why is this guy still locked in a room? This
seems odd to me.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
There's something odd going on here. And then it turns
out he was in there because he was a brutal
torturer and the other inmates have had thrown him in
there or what have you.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And then you.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Know, and he came out and faked being sensitive to delight.
But he was like pudgy and well, really healthy looking
and all. The fact that CNN got duped makes me happy.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Where's that guy? Now?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Did he disappear back out into the public and he's
going to be able to get away?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I'll bet he did. I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
I read the PostScript to that that the new authorities
had done something or other. But I don't know, because
he should be torn on limb for limb or set
on fire or something by the rebels. Oh yeah, yeah,
because he would torture people for politics, then he just
torture them for and only stop if your family paid
him off. I mean, yeah, he had a well, there
isn't a fate awful enough for him, although.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Locking him in there is wouldn't a bad idea, and
just dying of thirst and the hunger and being alone
in there is not awesome either, So they didn't have
a bad plan because I'm surprised they didn't beat him
to death when they had the chance, right for they
were in a hurry to get out of there.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Anyway, nice job seeing and very dramatic party, had no viewers. Hey,
I hate to take that shot because Clariss Ward's a
great report. Yeah, and yeah, it's not her fault out
you know, now, unfortunate series of events that made me happy,
which makes me a bad person, which will be part
of your confession, your very very long list as previously referenced. Right,
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we got more from the Trump press conference.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Men the city Council meeting in Chicago got crazy yesterday
as people are very angry with how much money the
mayor is spending on illegals.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Got a whole bunch of other stuff to talk about.
I hope you can stay here.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Jesus Pabla, Harry Jet them mixed, all those guys, the
neo crooners. Yeah, cool stuff like this.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
A little Christmas decorating today.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So before we get to the new latest news of
the day on the drones, we got the late night
comics of course, made some jokes about the drones last night,
so we thought we could.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Have a late night joke off.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yeah, all three of them are going to take a shot. Well,
three of them are going to take shot. We'll rank
each joke and and grade it with a letter grade.
The bottom grade getter is banned from comedy for life.
Let's hear of Michael.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Well, guys, Christmas is just nine days away, and everyone's
in the spirit. Tonight I was admiring all the beautiful lights,
and then I realized that there was.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Just the drones over New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Yeah, everyone's talking about these mysterious drones that keep appearing
over New Jersey. Nobody knows where they come from or
why they exist. It's basically air crypto. Everything annoyed about
the drones right now. The Chinese by balloons are like staying.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Your lane, girl, staying in your life.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Because as of today, the drone armada has also been
spotted in New York, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Ohio, which
can mean only one thing. The drones are visiting colleges. Remember, drones,
don't worry about going to the best school. Go to
the school where you can be your best self.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
The drones flying over in New Jersey.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
I mean, if they were still making new Sopranos episodes,
Tony would definitely be flying drones.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
WHOA still check this out. You can take pictures of
your neighbor's house. I don't know anything about no drones.
D Maybe we had drones, we wouldn't have lost it
rushing in the woods. Wow, didn't go great. I feel
great about it. That was a stretch. Wow.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Wow, Yeah, this is uh. We're going into the fine
print of the grading system here. Fellon with a B
plus for good naturedness, Colbert with a B. It was
all right, Myers with an A, but a full grade
deduction for you've got to be a huge soprance.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And the little data there, that's so the ashshale news
on the drones. Senator Doug Mastriano, who is the other
Pennsylvania Senator who doesn't get any attention because his cohart
is Fetterman.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Throw on the hoodie, Doug, or a tank top or something.
You gotta go with, novelty garb these you gotta have
a brand.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
This is a sitting US senator where they're now seeing drones.
He said, it's inconceivable that the federal government has no
answers nor has taken any action to get to the
bottom of the unidentified drones. The fecklands specklessness of this
administration was on display last year when a Chinese surveillance
balloon was allowed to fly over the entire United States.
Such should be viewed as a threat to our nation
and citizens, and action.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Is long overdue. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
So that's a sitting US senator who has no answers.
While just a little bit ago er. This morning, a
number of federal agencies signed onto a letter together saying
there is no threat to the public from the drones,
but they're still saying they don't have any answers. If
they would come out and say, we know what they are,
(16:20):
trust us, there's no threat. But they're saying we don't
know what they are and there's no threat, which doesn't
fit together as a thought correct.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Yeah, and I think that's universally recognized. I think America
is developing a sense of people know what's happening, just
go ahead and tell us, which it's a tough one.
It depends on the nature of the what they're doing
in whites classified, and it could be they just can't
find a way to tell.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Us part of it. I hope that's it.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I hope it's that we're on such the cutting edge
of drone defenses and drone warfare that it's just too
advanced to share with the people and not just buy
and style and competence.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
They can't even share it with us senators though apparently.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Well you can't trust senators, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
The curious case of Caitlan Clark coming up next to
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Jimangioni retained a new high powered former Manhattan prosecutor and
a defense fund set up for the suspect reached one
hundred and fifteen thousand dollars, though it's unclear if his
defense team will accept that money.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I'm happy to hear it's only one hundred and fifteen
thousand dollars. As a guy who's had a lot of
legal bills in the last couple of years, that ain't much.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It won't last long.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
So yeah, oh, brother, So I want to talk about
the Caitlin Clark situation and how it is just such
a beautiful illustration of the stupidity, the awfulness, and the
utter destructiveness of racialism which has had its moment in
the country. You know, thanks to Derek chauven and George
(17:56):
Floyd and the rest of it, nobody could speak out
against its excesses.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
For a little while.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
And the whole everything's about race and should be out
race and everything should be viewed through the lens of
race at bubba idea, which is insidious, horrible, Unamerican.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Well, remember sudden that rule of the day, Remember that
polling we had last week where every group wants a
color blind society, like everybody, Republicans, Democrats, old, young, white,
only only black people slightly wanted a race focused.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Society right, and yet I hear the listeners shouting hit
the speaker right now. I had to sit through six
hours of white people are bad training to keep my job,
to keep my professorship, you know, to teach, to keep
my teaching gig, and the rest of it, just even
though virtually nobody is in favor of this madness. But
(18:53):
so anyway, if you're familiar with the story, I'll hit
the basics of it. Caitlin Clark was on the cover
of Time website used to be a magazine honoring her
as the athlete of the year, and indeed the young
woman who it was pointed out elsewhere. And forgive me
if this isn't exactly right, but she was All American
(19:15):
College several times, brought her team to the National Championship
Game two consecutive years, reinvented the women's game, electrified the
college audiences.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
All time leading scorer, and then the crowds she's drawn
in the WNBA like NBA sized crowds. It's been amazing,
raining shots down from where they've never been taken before.
A silky passer in the style of Larry Bird. Just
a really exciting player happens to be a white woman
playing in the WNBA, which is a predominantly black league
(19:48):
like the NBA itself, and the reaction to Caitlin Clark's
success and what it's done for the WNBA has been
incredibly strange and troubling.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
They are all sorts of players.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I've got all sorts of quotes here about Ajah Wilson
of the Las Vegas Aces, the league's MVP, said it's
straight out Clark's race was a huge reason for her popularity. Quote,
it doesn't matter what we do, as black women were
still going to be swept underneath the rug. That's why
it boils my blood when people say it's not about race,
because it was.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You have team owners.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Shila Johnson, the black owner of the Washington Mystics, echoed Wilson,
telling CNN the only reason Clark was getting any claim
was because she was white. I feel really bad because
I've seen so many players of color that are equally
as talented never got the recognition that they should have.
Why couldn't they put the whole WNBA on the cover
and say the WNBA is the League of the Year.
(20:49):
People commented that thirty one percent of her team's attendance
for the entire season came from the two games they
played against Caitlin Clark's Indiana Fever.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Wow. Almost a third Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I would like to run in a parallel universe, same
status with a black girl from Iowa or from wherever,
exact same status, all through college, all through pros.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
And see what the reaction would be. Well, that's a
great thought. And here's my analysis of that experiment. In
a world where you got white kids all over the
place idolizing black NFL players and black NBA players, if
(21:40):
it turned out that for whatever reason, people can relate
more and root more to people for people who look
like them, that just is what it is.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
What are you going to do? Now?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Are you going to and I'm going to get to
a part that's just so idiotic and suicidal. If that's
the case, how about you embrace the incredible exciting fund
to watch Caitlyn Clark because she has lifted all boats.
All the salaries are going up, all the attendance is
going up, all the attention's going up. If, for whatever reason,
(22:16):
a country that's more white than black roots more for
this super exciting white player, use her a quote unquote
as a business and say Hey, how about this passing
from this gal and people will see her and say, wow,
what a ballplayer.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, that's exactly what Charles Barkley said. He said, the
WNBA has mishandled this so badly. It's the greatest gift
that's ever happened to them since the league started.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
And they're screwed it up. Oh yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
They're either attacking her or belly aching that it's happening
or grumbling that it shouldn't be happening their own league.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
It's suicidal. And look, I'm a football fan.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
I know a lot of football fans of a bunch
of different teams, and a number of the teams have
just absolutely outstanding black quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And here eat a single one of them.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Who roots less for that quarterback because he's darker of skin.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
This is not the way sports fans work.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, I don't doubt that Kaitlin Clark gets more attention
because she's white in a predominantly black sport.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
But straight might have something to do with it too, honestly,
because the vast majority of people are straight.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
But I don't think the skin color plays as big
a role as a lot of people are claiming.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I mean, because.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
She she did score more points than anybody ever has
in women's or men's college basketball history. She's the all
time leading scorer for men and women, Right, I mean
that's I I've seeing lots of black players every bit
as talented, as productive, as exciting to watch.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I don't think so. Right.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
And again, even if you're right, what does that tell you?
And this is a beautiful example of progressivism? The answer,
like that that owner of the Washington Mystics would give you,
is well, we need to change humanity.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
We need to change human names.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Sure, we need to fundamentally reorder human psychees. Yeah, okay,
good luck with that, or just market Caitlin Clark is
one of a bunch of great players, and watch your
league grow. Anyway, So perhaps you heard about this which
which happened first. I guess Caitlyn Clark's interview with Maria
(24:21):
Taylor happened first. Michael, go ahead and play clip sixteen.
Here's where it gets a little twisted. Caitlin Clarks is
a young woman fresh out at college working in the WNBA,
and the people around her are saying, you should have
white guilt because you have unfairly exploited your skin color.
(24:42):
And here's how the conversation went.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
And I feel like you have had to answer more
questions than anybody about the intersectionality of race and gender
and sexuality in sport because of just who you are,
and you represent the growth of this thing. And even today,
early today Meg and Kelly, she was saying that you were.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Apologizing for your white privilege.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
And the fact that you wanted to uplift black female
athletes and make sure that they were getting the shine
kind of like your pioneers were getting the shine that
they deserved. And I just want to know how you
feel or how you respond to some of those criticisms
when you have to deal with something that it's really
not your problem, Like I feel like it's them looking
in a mirror a little bit, but it still comes
down on your shoulders. I feel like I always have
(25:24):
had really good perspective on everything that's kind of happened
in my life, whether that's been good, whether that's been bad.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah, yeah, not that clip. I thought it was. I'm
sorry when this happens, I'd misread the description. We have
a clip not long ago, a few days ago, of
Caitlin Clark talking about how you know her she feels
her white privilege and is aware of it and the
rest of it.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Anyway, Sorry for the confusion, but.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
To what she just said there, I perfectly read that
was a long.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Speech by the interviewer. What the hell was that?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
But a perfectly reasonable answer to any of this stuff
as a twenty two year old who, I guarantee when
Caitlyn Clark gets up in the morning, the thing she's
thinking about the most is how do I make my
upper body stronger to compete in the league and how
do I increase my blah blah blah about playing That's
what's mostly on her mind.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
But I'd be perfectly reasonable to.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Say I never think about any of this stuff at
all ever in my life.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Is the answer. I think about basketball ninety nine percent
of the time.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah, yeah, that's that would be a good thing to say.
And I wish we had the original clip. It doesn't matter.
But I'm not gonna hate on Kate Len Clark. She's
she's a woman child, she's a kid fresh out of college. Yes,
she has been indoctrinated, and that's that's fine. She'll real
life will teach her reality soon enough. I would think
(26:44):
and a lot of people commented on her bending the
knee to the racial grievance industry, and as opposed she did.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So she's supposed to take on your fight, my fight,
whatever against this white privilege nonsense, which I do think
is nonsense. But she's supposed to do that as a
basketball player. That make her life fun. Wouldn't that be
fun to end up being the I'm gonna stand up
against white privileged person.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Man.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That'll be a good time in my twenties. Oh yeah,
I wouldn't ask her to do that in a locker.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Room full of young women's, many of whom of color,
who believe this stuff. So yeah, we can't ask that
of her. Go play exciting baseball or basketball rather, and
we'll deal with the rest of it. I read a
great story this is a little sports team, but about
when Larry Bird came into the league, a predominantly black
league even then, and how there's a little bit of oh,
(27:33):
the white boys getting all the attention, and whether through
unbelievable play or if somebody wanted to throw a punch,
he'd throw on right back. The respect came and it
quickly became not about race at all. And you know,
I would love to see a little more of that here,
but it's a different time, in a different situation, WNBA,
(27:54):
and partly because women are different than men. But this
is maybe the first and only time I've ever quoted
Lebron James in my life, and he tweeted this out
a couple of months ago. If you don't rock with
Caitlyn Clark and her game, you're just a flat out hater.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
But these people do hate. They are haters. Oh that's right.
I want to talk about this too real quickly, Rich,
How is your daughter? Just thinking? Is myself?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
If Kaitlyn Clark was your daughter, what would you have
told her before she got into all this mess? I
think I'd have gone with the All I think about
is basketball. I don't think about any of this stuff.
I would say, take care of business. You will, you
have enough on your plate. You have a big enough
challenge in front of you. Don't try to fix the world.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
You'd have to.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
You'd have to like practice though, because people are gonna
would try to shame her. They already are try to
sham her into having answer. Oh yeah, you owe it
to the pioneers of the league. I don't you don't
owe it to anybody to do anything other didn't show
up and play as hard as I can. Yeah, that's
and that's it's a misunderstanding of the free market and
how beautiful it is and how well it works, and
how it eliminates racism. And Milton Friedman wrote some great
(29:09):
stuff about this, and I can't remember I've seen some
other stuff. But since you're the entire question is what
is the best interaction. What is the best transaction I
can have? If the best transaction is with somebody who
doesn't look like me, if I miss out on that,
I lose.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I'm an idiot.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Whereas the uh A free economy is how people get
to know each other and cast aside their preconceptions. Let
Caitlin Clark play, let her play hard, let her play
against black people or whatever and white people, and and just.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Let it play out.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Quit trying to come up with a like an action
plan to manage the WNBA and manage the economy and
manage everybody's interactions at work, for instance. Now, just just
let us go about our business. It's going to be fine.
I wanted to get into some of the idiotic reactions
(30:04):
to the Daniel penny verdict.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
We can hit that another time.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
But anybody who's trying to make it all about race
is a race hustler in a liar.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
It's not race hustlers and liars everywhere. He's gonna keep fighting.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Oh, I'm flying over Christmas break and Southwest Airlines has
gotten a rid of their seating thing that everybody liked
for so long. There's now a signed seating which ends
any advantage to being a list. It looks like to
me as far as I can tell. But you you're
(30:42):
gonna want to know about this if you fly Southwest
before you get on your next flight, because it's completely different.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I had a bunch of other stuff on the way.
Stay here.
Speaker 9 (30:52):
We're going to head out to Moscow, where the head
of Russia's Nuclear and Chemical defense forces was killed by
a bomb this morning, and Ukraine is openly claiming responsibility.
Russian officials say this explosive device was hidden in a
scooter and left outside the apartment building of the target.
Ukrainian security sources tell CBS News the country's security agency
(31:14):
conducted a quote special operation to assassinate this General Igor Kyrillof,
and just yesterday Ukraine also charged him in connection with
Russia's use of illegal chemical weapons inside the country of Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Did Ukraine have the ability to pull that off on
their own or was the CIA helping with that? That's
what I would like to know. We may not know
for fifty years. That sounds like God, maybe that sounds
like a very CIA slash Masade sort of operation right there.
I mean to get into the capitol or Russia and
blow and know where this guy was, blow him up,
(31:50):
get a bomb into a scooter.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
That's some pretty sophisticated stuff right there. Yeah, I don't know,
is it pretty?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
I suppose I'm just picturing each side's advantage. I could
see the Ukrainians doing it that they know the landscape,
they look Russian, the many speed crushing. Anyway, quit using
chemical weapons, you son of a bitch.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
So next year, Southwest Airlines starts their assigned seating thing
that they're going to roll out in bits. And if
you're a list and have worked hard to be an
a list person, that's just gonna cease meaning much so
get used to it.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
That's where I am.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Well, you get crack the first crack at the comfier
seats because they're going to be a little more leg
roomy and stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
No, you kind of do, but you kind of don't,
depending on whether people that signed up for assigned seats
and bought them took them or not. So uh yeah, yeah,
it's gonna be a lot like other airlines, which maybe
you like that.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I just don't think humanity can handle the honor system
that Southwest kind of depended on anymore. There's too many
people cheating the system.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Oh really, no honor?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yeah yeah, faken you know they need extra time to
get on board.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
The number of people that need wheelchairs that's exploded in
recent years.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
But as always, there's a miracle healing in the air
because they walk off under their own power when they
get to their destination.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Twenty wheelchairs when you take off, two wheelchairs when you land.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah yeah, sorry, Do you have more on that or no? Okay,
So I just came across this Elizabeth Williamson, who's one
of the elite reporters at the elite New York Times
that just declared that they're going to have gender neutral
bathrooms because of their transgender employees needs. Even though it
lets there's like one percent of their employees who are
(33:40):
either gender fluid or trans or whatever. Now they got
tampons in the men's rooms. New York Times has lost
its mind. But anyway, this Elizabeth Williamson has published this story.
I asked Richard Grinnell, he is the Trump cabinet member,
a longtime advisor, a gay man. Not that that matters really,
but she said, ask Richard Garnell three times about his
(34:03):
priorities for his new role. He chose not to answer
those questions. Mister Grenell did not immediately reply to blah
blah blah, and Grennell just tweeted New York Times reporter
Liz What's her face?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Lied?
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Yet again, I did respond to her increase, she said,
I didn't. Here's what I sent Liz directly. Please use
this on the record. You aren't a real reporter. You're
an anti republican elitist. You may think people believe your writings,
but everyone dismisses what you say because it's always the
same negative gossip toward conservatives. We see you clearly. I
don't even think your many and constant mistakes are worth
(34:40):
mentioning to your editors. It's better to mock you. Publicly
for making the mistakes you always make. You have ruined
your credibility with your constant advocacy for the far left.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
That's good stuff right there.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
What she characterized in the article is Grannell did not respond.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yay did.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
We had Grannell on the show when we were in Milwaukee.
He was one of my favoritavorite people we talk to.
He is very impressive, brilliant guy.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
I really enjoyed the chat. Looking forward to seeing what
he can achieve in the new administration.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I want to hear about this New York Times tampons
in the men's room thing, gender bending madness.
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