December 26, 2024 • 34 mins
Featured during Hour 2 of the Thursday, December 26, 2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay...
- Sound Fridge...
- Trans Wants to be first to Have An Abortion...
- Bud Light Fooled...
- Rocky Mountain Oysters...
- Bitter Ol' Mellencamp vs. John Prine...
- Father's Day vs. Gay Pride Month...
- MLB Player Dad Story.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So let's clean out the sound fridge.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Aw, we've got a bunch of great audio the crew
got together that we didn't get to.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
This is an example.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
You could call it nutpicking, which is an expression I
really don't like. It's where you pick out a particularly
wacky member of the other ideology and feature them.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
But this one, I just think number one.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
There's so many of these, And the setup is you're
not supposed to say, Wow, that's a person with real
mental problems who needs help. You're supposed to say, oh,
you're so brave. Clip number five Michael the.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
First trans woman to have a successful uterus transplant oversent
eggs included. And I want to be the first trans
woman to have an abortion.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I will let a doctor who has successfully transplanted a
uterine complex before cut the organs out of a willing,
healthy trans masculine donor place them in my body. I
will devote myself, heart and soul to their aftercare. And
I want to be the first trans woman to have
(01:13):
an abortion.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
You are full on metal, ill and evil.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
And any doctor who would perform that surgery knowing that
those are his plans.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, I should lose their no, God, that is just sick.
That's somebody who has terrible mental problems. And you're right,
it is not picking to a certain extent, it's taking
like an extreme example of the people you don't agree
with in kind of act and then trying to pretend
sometimes that it represents a large point of view, which
I'm sure this does not. But though Joe Biden met
(01:46):
with that poor, unfortunate Dylan mulvaney character to show how
down he was with the trans folks, absolutely, and uh
well and bud Light thought it was important enough to
make it part of their advertising campaign to their demise.
But where did that video audio come from? I mean,
how what platform was that on to even be they
posted it online on I think it was TikTok wow,
(02:09):
and the people who compile crazy progressives, you know, retweeted
it or whatever. There's a lot of things that go
into this phenomenon that's happening right now. But part of
it is everybody needs to be famous or you know,
seen or liked or whatever, and you know it's getting
(02:32):
harder and harder to do. It's a crowded field, so
you have to be so out there to get some
attention and well, you talk about it's leading attention.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Well, and he's talking about a willing, trans masculine man.
So is that a woman who's becoming a man who
doesn't want her puss anymore?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah? Correct, Oh yes, I don't.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Math like this. This isn't working in my head.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah. Well, I got to admit at some point, and
I'll bet I'm not the only one. As he was
describing who he was going to do what with and
that they were trans this and masculine, I was I
was like, I need a chart. I'm losing track of,
like who's who's going to bring the sperm to this party?
Because I'm lost, for instance, who's.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Bringing the sperm and the bonus hols to this party?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Oh boy, again with that term. Oh oh, So. I
saw a bud Light commercial I think was it was
during the All Star Game, which, as we record, this
was last night, and I didn't watch much of it
because my beloved Giants have angered me and I'm just
not a baseball fan anymore. I'm but the bud Light
commercial and they never enunciated it, but it was like
(03:44):
people screwing up.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
A guy, you know, dropping the meat on the way
to the grill.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I can't remember the specifics, and somebody spilling something, and
then somebody breaking something, and then it went to bud Light.
So easy to drink, so easy to enjoy, And it
didn't occur to me until I was like, oh, oh,
they're making light of the fact that they really fed up,
(04:11):
and their commercial theme is look at everybody. Everybody f's
up now and again, Yeah, dropping the ribs on the
ground is not the same as making a decision. I'm
sure there were a half dozen or more people involved
in of a giant marketing campaign. Yeah, not to.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Take this too serious, leave it very briefly.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
What the bud Light is a beautiful example of is
that Anheuser Busch, or at least the people involved in
the bud Light marketing became convinced, perhaps because they're personally
down with it, but became convinced that that very tiny
but outsized minority of Americans who pitches all this radical
gender theory stuff represents most people. They got fooled. Yeah,
(04:56):
and then reality which bat's last. Speaking of baseball, I said,
not so much. We'll drink any other beer, literally, any
other beer. Well, let's keep cleaning out the sad fridge.
Thanks metal guy. Ah, let's see. Oh, Michael, do you
want to introduce clip eleven? Is there anything we need
(05:17):
to know?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
A kid goes into Dunkin Donuts and he has four
dollars with him and he wants some strawberry donuts and uh.
He basically ends up wanting to get a few donuts
and ends up with the whole box. Okay, so he
explains how how he got him.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Because they didn't have the type of donut I wanted.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
She gave me a deal. I could get cold strawberry
donuts for the price of one, and I decided, can
I get two for that deal?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
So I could to pipe my month.
Speaker 8 (05:46):
Of you.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I wanted some munchkins, but they didn't have that either.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
She gave me the right.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
You all of them.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
There is a tool really pleased poor dollars. That is
one very pleased woman with the number of cheap donuts
you got. Wow, our sun drives a hard bargain too.
(06:13):
What do you mean you're out of munchkins? Holy cal
How are we gonna make this right? I'm asked people,
the manager.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Please Karen in the making.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes, exactly, how are we gonna make this right? It's
because I'm black, right, or a child or a woman
or something.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
E being racistly out of munchkins.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
He's gonna end up running a hedge fund or something.
Keep an eye on that. You send them trans didn't you,
And that's why you wouldn't make more of these? Would
you like me to go public line? Oh God, give
him as many donuts as he wants to get him
out of here, Michael, any introduction necessary to twelve Katie
(06:51):
might be able to relate to this. This is when
a guy gives you mixed signals. He is why he's
giving you mixed signals.
Speaker 9 (06:56):
He's even unsure about you the relationship or boy, if
he's truly interested, he'll put in the effort consistently. So
don't waste your time on a guy who's indecisive. Your
job is not to convince someone, but to find someone
who doesn't need convincing. If a guy stop talking to you,
remember this quote. If your absence doesn't bother them, your
presence never mattered to them. You don't belong with someone
(07:17):
who doesn't want you. He's done you a favor by
eliminating himself.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Spitting truth.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
No, my reaction is duck.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, well, that's one of the best things that Sex
and the City ever came up with. That whole he's
just not that into me thing as opposed to torturing
yourself for both men and women, as opposed to torturing yourself. Well,
why somebody is you know, didn't call you back or
they always I've just been so busy, don't you know.
Don't tie myself into knots because I've done this over it.
(07:47):
They just they don't dig you that much, So move on.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, I'm not shocked to hear you say that, Katie.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
We don't know you well, we've only worked together a
fairly short time, but you do strike me as more
tethered to reality as opposed to what you wish were
reality than some folks.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Well, I mean I appreciate that, and I feel like
if you're dating somebody and they aren't calling you back,
and this is the fifth time that he says, oh
I was busy, Hello, wake up. But I think it's
pretty obvious he doesn't want to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It's tough, though, if you really really want something to
be true, though, to let go of that, I mean,
that's easier said yeah, oh yeah, that's why you have
to like rededicate yourself to clinging to reality over and
over again in your life. If he isn't being bothered
by your absence, he didn't care much about your presence. Yeah,
that's pretty good that Yeah, no kidding, right, Gun doubled
(08:39):
me over. Oh and let's end on a positive note,
shall we, Michael, why don't you go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And roll thirteen?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Then I've got the details if we need him? Well,
it means you want to do murder mystery.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Oh, I just always love.
Speaker 10 (08:57):
I do a little bit of TikTok and when so,
I think I'm gonna go ahead and get a second one.
I'm gonna gift it on there and see if we
can get you a little bit of love on there.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Oh.
Speaker 10 (09:05):
Thanks, I want to thank everybody for the love and
the kindness on the video. That red post is totally unexpected.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I'm in shock.
Speaker 10 (09:15):
I don't even know what to say about it at
the moment. I'm trying to wrap my head around it.
Thank you again for all the kindness.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So here's the story.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
This gent who is He looks to be I would
say in his sixties, well into his sixties. He's a
retired man, a veteran of the Armed Services, and he
is living his lifelong dream of being an author. But
he was sitting alone and ignored at a folding table
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at his local grocery store in Texas with his novel,
hoping people might ask him about it or if he
could sign a copy or something like that. That's I
don't come across that. That often tables with novelists sitting there,
and the image heartbreaking? Are you interested in my novel?
I gotta get out to my car.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You know, it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And you're right, Katie, I have this weird thing where
if I'm like at a craft fair, Judy and I,
you know, whatever the August days or whatever the what
sits festival, and I'll walk through the craft fair and
it hurts my heart, like everybody who's sitting there alone
in their booth being ignored, some old lady who who
(10:32):
paints glass and puts a little string on it that
you can hang from something. Yeah, and nobody and nobody's
nobody's coming by her booth, and you know she puts
a lot of time and effort into that, and put
some time and effort to showing up to the little
you know, garlic festival, and yeah, it's painful for me too.
The guy with the nice cutting boards whatever, I just it'
(10:53):
it's painful anyway, And I don't have the heart to say,
wake up, granny, nobody's interested in your colored glass. Oh
oh folks abuse, Oh lord, soulless.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Jack runs around screaming at grannies.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So uh this TikToker, uh shaw Jared Sweringen. He he
walked into the store and he sees this guy and
he wonders what's going on, and he figures out he's
got a book to sell it on and he walks
back out to his car and he says to himself,
wait a minute, I keep thinking about this guy.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I'm gonna go back in and talk to him.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And so he talked to him, and he videoed him,
and as he said in the caption, he said, you
know what, let me put this on my TikTok.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Maybe we would get you some love.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
The guy describing his book and everything Think rockets to
the top of the best seller lists. The freaking power
of the Internet. Is a book any good model? Or
is it just a whole bunch of people feeling like
you were describing where we feel bad for the old guy.
He tried to write a novel. It's a dream, you
know what.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
It happened so quickly, I would imagine they probably went
straight to Amazon and gave him a high rating. But
his books did sell out that day as well. It
was a dark and stormy night.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Lee Howard and the Ghosts of Simmons Pierce Manner. Sounds good.
Are the hardy boys in it? Sounds like the hardy
boys are in it? That would be a copyright infringement, Jack,
But it's a ghost, an orphaned girl who uses the
help of ghostly companions to solve the murder of her parents.
All right, it's all telling stuff, man, all the execution
(12:26):
obviously pelling stuff. Okay, that's ultimately a story about kindness
and the kind spirit of a humanity. That's what it is.
I think it is, unless it turns out his TikToker
dude demanded a cut. Oh, somebody is going to the
Internet's gonna get a hold of the old guy and
find out anything he's ever done untoward in his life.
No change the story around.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
No nursery stores a weird spot for a book signing,
it is, That's what I'm saying, you're trying to reach
the pickles, and this guy's sitting there with his books
the table.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
So I walked by the one table says can you
give us some money for youth sports? And then I
got him to the other table. It's a guy with
a novel I don't.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
And then on the way out, you're being sold chocolate bars.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Right exactly. Well, but inside the story even you're thinking, yeah,
I got to get some some ground beef for the
hamburgers tonight.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
You gotta get buns and.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Ketchup, and probably ought to find a good summer beach
rad too. An obscure novel, said nobody, but sounds good.
I mean they solved the murder of her parents. Favor that, right,
if it gone unsolved, it'd be disappointed. Well, right, yeah,
I guess these sound. Fridge is now reasonably clean. Yeah,
that mayonnaise was past it to date. I'm glad I
(13:31):
didn't open it. Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong and Getty show,
my son brought up I thought we were gonna eat
Rocky Mountain oysters when we were in Kansas, and I forgot.
He's been wanting to try Rocky Mountain oysters, which have
you ever been anywhere, Katie. You're a lifetime Bay Area person.
(13:52):
They probably don't have Rocky Mountain oysters anywhere there. No,
I have not had Rocky Mountain oysters. But it was
as common as anything could be as bar food for me,
like in college and that sort of stuff. Cow testicles
fried up, and I told my son we'd try them
when we were back in which you taught us see
Grandma and Grandpa, but we forgot to wait. Well next time.
Oh darn, you know me. I believe it's karmically unacceptable.
(14:17):
It's just, you know, I don't belong to any religion
that forbids me from eating any particular foods. But I've
crafted my own set of beliefs, and I will not
eat another man's even if it is a cow man.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I will not eat another creature's testicules.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
What about juggling them, I asked, Because I did that.
I juggled pig testicles for charity. Oh really I did.
They were quite slick.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
M That is one of my favorite things you've ever said.
You know, I didn't see that coming. I juggled pig
testicles for charity. They were quite slick.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
The feed loss in Western Kansas used to once or
so they'd have what they called a ball fry because
they had such a so many of them built up
over a year of castration. Had a ball fry, and
that's everybody would come out, and that's how you go
through them all. Well, I suppose it is putting them
to use as opposed to just throw them.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Yeah, wasting or juggling them like some sort of savage.
It was entertaining. So now we played tug war with
the intestines after.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
It was a long day. Oh my lord. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
We called it the meat circus. It was a whole thing. Yeah,
what was the charity?
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I can't remember what it was.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
It was something that was going against PETA, though I
remember donating to like I think it was a butcher
shop or something.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
So we were a fundamentalist militia. The charity wasn't The
charity wasn't neuticles for ball less hogs? Was it that?
I don't know, weird circular logic thing there. Uh So
this reminded me of a Saturday A Live bit from
Saturday Night. The the idea because these rocky Mountain oysters,
you can get him with your cheeseburger, where you've got
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fries or that or whatever, and they did you see
the shrimp tower skit on Saturday Night Live James Broland.
That's what makes so funny. One of the greatest actors
of all time playing the lead role. Anyways, he's throwing
a very fancy party and he has a shrimp tower
and it's just, you know, a little shrimp built up
to the shape of a tower. Anyway, he called it
(16:26):
the thinking Man's mozzarella Stick, which I thought, I'm very funny.
That is dryly hilarious. That is funny.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I'll have to seek that out.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
So we're about to play a clip at John Cougar
mellencamp uh talking at a concert. Is this one of
the concerts that he's doing with Willie Nelson and Bob
Dylan or is he on his own here on his
own hair? So he's touring with I know he's going
to be I think at the Hollywood Bowl in LA
which I'd like to see melonhead Willie Nelson and the
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ancient Bob Dylan. Of course, Bob Dylan's not ancient compared
to Willie Nelson, who just turned ninety, right, it's got
to be something when he sings. I was just reading
the set list on these concerts, and Willie sings among
these classics. Funny, how time slips away? Did it slip away?
You've been on ninety years. I don't think it slipped away.
Something happened to you when you were thirty, Eh, it
(17:31):
was sixty years ago. It didn't just slip away. But
I thought the set list would be interesting. It's not.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Really.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
It's pretty much the songs you expect, melonhead sings, pink houses,
and you know that sort of stuff. I wonder why
he's touring. A couple of years ago, he said he
had no interest in being a jukebox. If people didn't
particularly want to hear new music or new versions of
old songs, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
He had no interest in being a juke.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
He did get a tooth knocked out by his kid,
like a year or so ago. Did that cause him
any financial difficulties? He and his son got a fistfight.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I don't imagine he can afford basic dentistry. But I
don't know. I have no idea of his financial wherewithal.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Why is will he doing it? That's just what he does.
I don't think he can imagine any other life right,
And like Keith Richards the Rolling Stones, why in the
world would they play more shows, much less launch a
giant tour. Well, I think Willie, that's what they do.
Will he's paying off his tax debts, right. I don't
know if he still has that, But that story was
thirty years ago, Michael. But he also he travels with
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his sons. I've watched some of the videos from the
bus and his kids are like sixty so, but he
travels with the sons who are in the band too,
so it's probably probably a pretty good time. I mean,
what would be better than that? Really? Actually, I can't
think of anything that would be better than that. So,
and then Bob Dylan. I don't know what Bob Dylan's doing. Yeah,
he is exactly. He doesn't need the money or the
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acclaim or the Maybe he likes hotels. I don't know.
But John Cougar is on stage for a while, and
do we need to know anything else about that? No,
he starts, he's just talking to the crowd. Okay, here
we go, and she went.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
It's just like he ready to be a smart like
when I'm talking to Jesus.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
And then it got real quiet.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
What do you think, I mean an, hey, Joe, find
this guy and then they see him after the show. Anyway,
before I was a celubating, ruptured.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Guys. I can stopped this show right now.
Speaker 11 (19:54):
I'm just doing.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Since you've been so wonderful. IM had to cut about
ten songs.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Out of the show.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
So that's a tape of did he actually leave? Wow?
And he actually left? That's not cool. Don't let an
a hole and the show. So you heard that the
crowd was entirely on your side? Was one guy? So
(20:34):
it's into a story. Some guy play some music, which
is hurtful if you're telling a story that you think
is either funny or important or something like that. Right,
and but yeah, I think the rest of the crowd
was at least willing to listen to your story, if
not enthusiastic about it. Yeah, that was week.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
No, it sounded like they were with him. They laughed
at the joke and everything. It was just fine.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
And some of them even went ah, hey at the
guy who interrupted him.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
A lot of people did.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So then he plays like six bars of Jack and leaves.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, he's old and bitter.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I enough time for that.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I have thought about this a lot. I so on
Charlie Rose, which I miss a lot, the TV show
he had in the same week. I think John Mellencamp
and John Prine. If you don't know Joan Prine, he
was a very old singer songwriter who never had commercial
(21:33):
success like John Mellencamp, but was hugely adored by people
who like music anyway. He died COVID, but had him
on both that week. So they're both super old and
at the end of their careers. And it struck me
how John Prine had what I hope I can have
when I'm old, but I don't think I can because
I don't even have it now. He just had. He
(21:53):
just had like a rye. This is kind of funny,
isn't it? View of old I mean, this is almost
amusing what this is like, the health problems and the
this and the that, and the kids and the marriage
and just the way these songs were like that too.
But John Mellencamp was clearly a bitter It went by
too fast, sad, and I relate to those feelings. But
(22:19):
just you know, I wish I wish I were still thirty,
you know, that sort of thing, And I thought those
are there's two really good examples. Has nothing to do
with being famous. Of how you approach getting older. You
either just accept it and kind of enjoy it and
marvel at its everything that's it's evolved, or be really
(22:39):
bitter that you're not thirty and cool anymore, like Mellencamp was.
And I just thought that was interesting, and I think
heard a little of it there. Yeah, I think, Well,
let me start with this. Was playing golf the other
day and we saw some distance away a mutual friend
talked about him a little bit. One of the most
(23:01):
cheerful guys you've ever met. This guy wakes up in
the morning, cheerful, he goes to bed cheerful. He's just
made like that, and it's it's an amazing blessing. And
I commented to my buddy, who also has a more
than one kid, I said, anybody who's raised multiple kids
knows you come out of the womb like that, or
you don't. I've always said, and this number is pulled
(23:23):
out of my imagination that you got maybe about fifteen
twenty percent around the edges. You can push yourself in
this way or push yourself in that way, but you
are who you are.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
And I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Could John Mellencamp have ever been John Prine in his
old age? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I don't know either. You're I think you're right about that.
And at fifteen and twenty percent, you could either go
fifteen percent more bitter and awful or fifteen percent more
cheerful and optimistic, and that that makes a big difference
in your life. I'm not saying it's insignificant. I'm just
saying my body, his name is Dan, I was born annoyed.
(24:04):
I'm never going to be Dan, right, And I love
the guy and we're good friends. Actually, I think my
acerbic eye rolling view of the world is amusing to him,
and blah blah whatever it works. The one thing I know,
and I try, I've tried to be honest about this
with myself. All of us want, all of us attribute
(24:25):
our good qualities to choice and our bad qualities to genetics.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I got a strength of character.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, all the good things about me are because I
chose to be that way and I worked hard to
be that right. I gotta admit when I when I
was taking in the two different attitudes about growing over
and your and your your best days being behind you.
I related to the emotions of John Mellencamp a lot
more than John Bryn. I'd like to be like John Bryan,
(24:55):
but I feel in my head, in my heart more
like John Mellencamp, whatever reason, because I think I'm born
that way. I was, this is where I am. Yeah.
And then there's the question of epigenetics, which is one
of my favorite things I've ever learned. You have your genetics,
but then you've got a bunch of things in your genes.
You try to end up with a half cat half
dog sort of situation.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Is that what that is? Yeah, that's that's right exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, yeah, No, it's there are like triggers that you
have genetically, and if certain things happen to you or
you run into them, that those switches might be flipped.
But if you don't go through those things, they won't
be If your environment is you have good nutrition or whatever,
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it'll never.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Manifest itself itself.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's not like the entirety of who you are is
determined by your genetics. Your experience in your life plays
a role too in various ways. But you know, we're
in the early days of really understanding that stuff. I
just remember so they both sang songs that week and
on Prime Song at that time. This is the last
album before he died. I think it was When I
(26:04):
Get to Heaven. And there's a line in there something
about I'm gonna kiss that pretty girl on the tilted whirl,
I'm gonna smoke a cigarette that's nine miles long. It's
it's like looking back on the best parts of your
life and wanting to relive them, or getting to smoke
cigarette again. And John Couer had a line in his
song and all your best efforts don't amount to anything anymore,
And I thought, wow, that's just such two different views
(26:27):
of where you are at the end of your career.
And one of you is happy and one of you
is miserable. But like you said, maybe you can't control that.
I don't know. I don't know. That's interesting acceptance is
that how much of that is inborn, your capacity to
just accept your life and it's reality. I'm gonna be
a really bitter old person. I think I'm pretty bitter
(26:50):
young person. Yeah, well I can see that I will
be quite self deprecating, but a bitter old person. The
Armstrong and Getty Show, Yeah, yeah, your shoe podcasts and
our hot links.
Speaker 12 (27:09):
Fathers get a day, but we get a month of
alphabet soup. I like to the alternate people, what I
don't think that's society is this.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I think that's the point of Pride Month. And that's
so it's all due respect to my my gay friends
who are uniformly with the meme I saw the other day.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
LGB is all we need.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
The rest is not us well, and it's not just
a month, as you know, there are a whole bunch
of other weeks and days around the same theme throughout
the years, so it's not just a month a year,
ye know.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
But fathers get a day.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
And the reason that popped into my mind is we
have some kind of Father's Day related stuff and you know,
maybe it would have been better then because fathers only
get one day. Then you ought to shut up about
the importance of fathers. Hey, you weren't here on Friday
when Katie and I and Michael had the discussion that
we've had for many years of looking for a Father's
Day card and trying to find one that's not a
(28:11):
joke about flatulence or drinking beer or watching TV. Mother's
Day cards are all you know, there are some joke
Mother's Day cards, but there's tons of how important and
valued and crucial mothers are. Dad's Day cards are all
jokes about yeah what I just said, Yeah, yeah, very true.
(28:34):
So anyway, why would be we be in the least
hesitant to continue Father's Day thoughts or respect or that
sort of thing. Let's begin with Clip Tenant's Tristan Cassas Casas.
He's a Boston Red Sox player telling a story about
his dad.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
So I'm in coach pitch and you know, I'm so young,
I don't really know what's going on at this point. Still,
I'm still just playing baseball just to burn calaries and
get out there and get some son right. And you know,
I get out one day and I come back to
the dug out crying, pissed. And you know, that's that's
what a six year old does. He sits on the
bench and he cries, and he doesn't want to go
(29:10):
out there when you know his team's playing defense. So
my dad, you know, being the dad that he is
trying to teach me the lessons that he did in
his own special way, came into the dugout. He actually
grabbed me by my shirt dragged me to the line
and Looney Tunstyle kicked me out onto the field and
actually had one of my best friends that I went
to high school with later he ended up playing pro ball.
(29:32):
His mom actually called child Services on my dad at
the field. No, no, no, for there's no joke at the field.
I see my dad go away in the cop car
gets arrested. Send the nice of joke here. But that day,
that day, my dad taught me a super valuable lesson
that not not a lot of people know. And it's
that I had a responsibility to my teammates, I had
a responsibility to my coaches, to the parents that showed
(29:54):
up that day, all the fans who were at that
little league game, whatever it may be, to go out
there and my best effort, no matter how I was
feeling on the bench, no matter what I was going
through that day, or whatever little hardship that I was
feeling when I got out, that I still apply every
single time, because sometimes I just want to sit down
on this bench after I get out, and I want
to weave and I want to cry. But that's that's
(30:14):
not how baseball is. So yeah, I love my dad
to death. I wouldn't have this opportunity without him. But yeah,
funny little excerpt that's about that. That's the type of
that my dad is. So that's true.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
That.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I like the Looney Tuthes reference that it is.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
An amazing story.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
That took a turn though she called CPS and they
actually spent the night in jail.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, yeah, wow, did.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Not see that coming.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, that is a good story.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Also, like the fact that he's six and he said
the reason he was playing was to burn calories and
to get some sun. I never thought about that when
I was six, and I better work off this pop
tart cool second shot with chip cookie was totally unnecessary.
I'm gonna go play some baseball. Yeah, that's that's funny.
(31:09):
It reminds me of a conversation we've had before that,
you know, the and it's a cliche, and certainly the
roles overlap. But when little Johnny skins his knee, Mom is,
oh honey, oh no, and Dad's like, you'll be fine,
You'll be great, and that whole And I remember my
dad was my baseball coach a lot too, and he
would come out to the mound when I was pitching,
(31:30):
and I've said this told this story before too. He'd
say get this guy out, or I'm gonna pull you.
And it wasn't cruelty. It was a way to focus
me and to say, you know, you have a job
to do.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Here is what it is. I'm not out of here.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I'm not out here to tell you everything's gonna be okay,
because telling you go do it is telling you everything's
gonna be okay. Telling you I You're fine, go run
and play is that's a empowering message. To look at
me a man to man, even as like a fifteen
year old, and say focus, get this guy out.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
That's a compliment shift we've experienced. Yeah, i'd say, oh yeah,
I can't. Plus you know, as I've said before, I
was like you, damn right, I'm getting this guy out.
You're not pulling me. And it's just it's that's what
coaching is. That's what man to man coaching is. Now,
(32:33):
it can cross the line into being an a hole
if you're a bad coach.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
But it was a very good coach.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I don't know. Anxiety.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
It's going to cause anxiety. This is reminding me of
a story my dad told me. He played football in
high school and my grandfather. His dad was a surgeon,
and my dad took a cleat to the shin during
a game and my granddad sewed him up in the
in the team team locker room and then said get
your ass back out there.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
And this was during this of war. Yeah, pretty much,
I as well been.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Mid sixties.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
On the other hand, Katie, do we need any setup
for clip twelve?
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (33:13):
No, this is just where we're headed if this woke
crap continues.
Speaker 11 (33:18):
Hey, non binary offspring, Hey, non gender specific parent, just
wanted to let you know that dinner is ready if
you consent to it.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Of course I don't. I don't consent.
Speaker 11 (33:28):
Well, I was thinking maybe in an hour or so,
if you're up to it, me and your other non
gender specific parent can sit in the living room and
breathe for a little bit if it doesn't trigger you.
Of course, you know, I'm not sure if I'm triggered
by that or offended. I quite honestly, I don't know
what to feel anymore. Trust me, I don't know either. Honey,
Oh my god, did you just call me honey?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Oh my god?
Speaker 11 (33:45):
I am so sorry. That's harassment. Please don't tweet about this.
I already did. Well, it looks like my career is over. Well,
maybe think twenty times before you talk. We'll have to
live on the streets. Well, that doesn't matter to me
because my feelings are more important than all of our
physical well beings. Okay, well, I'm gonna go into the
living room and cry I love you.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You don't have to say it back. I'm not going
to wow.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Parent and child in the year twenty sixty.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
That's pretty good. I don't know if I'm triggered or offended.
I don't know what I'm feeling anymore.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I can't believe that dude's dad spent the night in jail. Yeah,
all right, I gotta ask how hard did he kick him?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
The boy looking back is he's full of love and
he did the right thing and laughing about it, So yeah,
he does. I don't know. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, wow,
that's quite a story.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
You know.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
They kicked each other pretty hard in those Limny Tunes cartoons.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Occasionally it was borderline brutality. Michael, you quit right, The
Armstrong and Getty Show
So let's clean out the sound fridge.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Aw, we've got a bunch of great audio the crew
got together that we didn't get to.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
This is an example.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
You could call it nutpicking, which is an expression I
really don't like. It's where you pick out a particularly
wacky member of the other ideology and feature them.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
But this one, I just think number one.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
There's so many of these, And the setup is you're
not supposed to say, Wow, that's a person with real
mental problems who needs help. You're supposed to say, oh,
you're so brave. Clip number five Michael the.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
First trans woman to have a successful uterus transplant oversent
eggs included. And I want to be the first trans
woman to have an abortion.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I will let a doctor who has successfully transplanted a
uterine complex before cut the organs out of a willing,
healthy trans masculine donor place them in my body. I
will devote myself, heart and soul to their aftercare. And
I want to be the first trans woman to have
(01:13):
an abortion.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
You are full on metal, ill and evil.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
And any doctor who would perform that surgery knowing that
those are his plans.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, I should lose their no, God, that is just sick.
That's somebody who has terrible mental problems. And you're right,
it is not picking to a certain extent, it's taking
like an extreme example of the people you don't agree
with in kind of act and then trying to pretend
sometimes that it represents a large point of view, which
I'm sure this does not. But though Joe Biden met
(01:46):
with that poor, unfortunate Dylan mulvaney character to show how
down he was with the trans folks, absolutely, and uh
well and bud Light thought it was important enough to
make it part of their advertising campaign to their demise.
But where did that video audio come from? I mean,
how what platform was that on to even be they
posted it online on I think it was TikTok wow,
(02:09):
and the people who compile crazy progressives, you know, retweeted
it or whatever. There's a lot of things that go
into this phenomenon that's happening right now. But part of
it is everybody needs to be famous or you know,
seen or liked or whatever, and you know it's getting
(02:32):
harder and harder to do. It's a crowded field, so
you have to be so out there to get some
attention and well, you talk about it's leading attention.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Well, and he's talking about a willing, trans masculine man.
So is that a woman who's becoming a man who
doesn't want her puss anymore?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah? Correct, Oh yes, I don't.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Math like this. This isn't working in my head.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah. Well, I got to admit at some point, and
I'll bet I'm not the only one. As he was
describing who he was going to do what with and
that they were trans this and masculine, I was I
was like, I need a chart. I'm losing track of,
like who's who's going to bring the sperm to this party?
Because I'm lost, for instance, who's.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Bringing the sperm and the bonus hols to this party?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Oh boy, again with that term. Oh oh, So. I
saw a bud Light commercial I think was it was
during the All Star Game, which, as we record, this
was last night, and I didn't watch much of it
because my beloved Giants have angered me and I'm just
not a baseball fan anymore. I'm but the bud Light
commercial and they never enunciated it, but it was like
(03:44):
people screwing up.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
A guy, you know, dropping the meat on the way
to the grill.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I can't remember the specifics, and somebody spilling something, and
then somebody breaking something, and then it went to bud Light.
So easy to drink, so easy to enjoy, And it
didn't occur to me until I was like, oh, oh,
they're making light of the fact that they really fed up,
(04:11):
and their commercial theme is look at everybody. Everybody f's
up now and again, Yeah, dropping the ribs on the
ground is not the same as making a decision. I'm
sure there were a half dozen or more people involved
in of a giant marketing campaign. Yeah, not to.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Take this too serious, leave it very briefly.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
What the bud Light is a beautiful example of is
that Anheuser Busch, or at least the people involved in
the bud Light marketing became convinced, perhaps because they're personally
down with it, but became convinced that that very tiny
but outsized minority of Americans who pitches all this radical
gender theory stuff represents most people. They got fooled. Yeah,
(04:56):
and then reality which bat's last. Speaking of baseball, I said,
not so much. We'll drink any other beer, literally, any
other beer. Well, let's keep cleaning out the sad fridge.
Thanks metal guy. Ah, let's see. Oh, Michael, do you
want to introduce clip eleven? Is there anything we need
(05:17):
to know?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
A kid goes into Dunkin Donuts and he has four
dollars with him and he wants some strawberry donuts and uh.
He basically ends up wanting to get a few donuts
and ends up with the whole box. Okay, so he
explains how how he got him.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Because they didn't have the type of donut I wanted.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
She gave me a deal. I could get cold strawberry
donuts for the price of one, and I decided, can
I get two for that deal?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
So I could to pipe my month.
Speaker 8 (05:46):
Of you.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I wanted some munchkins, but they didn't have that either.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
She gave me the right.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
You all of them.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
There is a tool really pleased poor dollars. That is
one very pleased woman with the number of cheap donuts
you got. Wow, our sun drives a hard bargain too.
(06:13):
What do you mean you're out of munchkins? Holy cal
How are we gonna make this right? I'm asked people,
the manager.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Please Karen in the making.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes, exactly, how are we gonna make this right? It's
because I'm black, right, or a child or a woman
or something.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
E being racistly out of munchkins.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
He's gonna end up running a hedge fund or something.
Keep an eye on that. You send them trans didn't you,
And that's why you wouldn't make more of these? Would
you like me to go public line? Oh God, give
him as many donuts as he wants to get him
out of here, Michael, any introduction necessary to twelve Katie
(06:51):
might be able to relate to this. This is when
a guy gives you mixed signals. He is why he's
giving you mixed signals.
Speaker 9 (06:56):
He's even unsure about you the relationship or boy, if
he's truly interested, he'll put in the effort consistently. So
don't waste your time on a guy who's indecisive. Your
job is not to convince someone, but to find someone
who doesn't need convincing. If a guy stop talking to you,
remember this quote. If your absence doesn't bother them, your
presence never mattered to them. You don't belong with someone
(07:17):
who doesn't want you. He's done you a favor by
eliminating himself.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Spitting truth.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
No, my reaction is duck.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, well, that's one of the best things that Sex
and the City ever came up with. That whole he's
just not that into me thing as opposed to torturing
yourself for both men and women, as opposed to torturing yourself. Well,
why somebody is you know, didn't call you back or
they always I've just been so busy, don't you know.
Don't tie myself into knots because I've done this over it.
(07:47):
They just they don't dig you that much, So move on.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, I'm not shocked to hear you say that, Katie.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
We don't know you well, we've only worked together a
fairly short time, but you do strike me as more
tethered to reality as opposed to what you wish were
reality than some folks.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Well, I mean I appreciate that, and I feel like
if you're dating somebody and they aren't calling you back,
and this is the fifth time that he says, oh
I was busy, Hello, wake up. But I think it's
pretty obvious he doesn't want to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
It's tough, though, if you really really want something to
be true, though, to let go of that, I mean,
that's easier said yeah, oh yeah, that's why you have
to like rededicate yourself to clinging to reality over and
over again in your life. If he isn't being bothered
by your absence, he didn't care much about your presence. Yeah,
that's pretty good that Yeah, no kidding, right, Gun doubled
(08:39):
me over. Oh and let's end on a positive note,
shall we, Michael, why don't you go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And roll thirteen?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Then I've got the details if we need him? Well,
it means you want to do murder mystery.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Oh, I just always love.
Speaker 10 (08:57):
I do a little bit of TikTok and when so,
I think I'm gonna go ahead and get a second one.
I'm gonna gift it on there and see if we
can get you a little bit of love on there.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Oh.
Speaker 10 (09:05):
Thanks, I want to thank everybody for the love and
the kindness on the video. That red post is totally unexpected.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I'm in shock.
Speaker 10 (09:15):
I don't even know what to say about it at
the moment. I'm trying to wrap my head around it.
Thank you again for all the kindness.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So here's the story.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
This gent who is He looks to be I would
say in his sixties, well into his sixties. He's a
retired man, a veteran of the Armed Services, and he
is living his lifelong dream of being an author. But
he was sitting alone and ignored at a folding table
(09:45):
at his local grocery store in Texas with his novel,
hoping people might ask him about it or if he
could sign a copy or something like that. That's I
don't come across that. That often tables with novelists sitting there,
and the image heartbreaking? Are you interested in my novel?
I gotta get out to my car.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You know, it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And you're right, Katie, I have this weird thing where
if I'm like at a craft fair, Judy and I,
you know, whatever the August days or whatever the what
sits festival, and I'll walk through the craft fair and
it hurts my heart, like everybody who's sitting there alone
in their booth being ignored, some old lady who who
(10:32):
paints glass and puts a little string on it that
you can hang from something. Yeah, and nobody and nobody's
nobody's coming by her booth, and you know she puts
a lot of time and effort into that, and put
some time and effort to showing up to the little
you know, garlic festival, and yeah, it's painful for me too.
The guy with the nice cutting boards whatever, I just it'
(10:53):
it's painful anyway, And I don't have the heart to say,
wake up, granny, nobody's interested in your colored glass. Oh
oh folks abuse, Oh lord, soulless.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Jack runs around screaming at grannies.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So uh this TikToker, uh shaw Jared Sweringen. He he
walked into the store and he sees this guy and
he wonders what's going on, and he figures out he's
got a book to sell it on and he walks
back out to his car and he says to himself,
wait a minute, I keep thinking about this guy.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I'm gonna go back in and talk to him.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And so he talked to him, and he videoed him,
and as he said in the caption, he said, you
know what, let me put this on my TikTok.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Maybe we would get you some love.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
The guy describing his book and everything Think rockets to
the top of the best seller lists. The freaking power
of the Internet. Is a book any good model? Or
is it just a whole bunch of people feeling like
you were describing where we feel bad for the old guy.
He tried to write a novel. It's a dream, you
know what.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
It happened so quickly, I would imagine they probably went
straight to Amazon and gave him a high rating. But
his books did sell out that day as well. It
was a dark and stormy night.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Lee Howard and the Ghosts of Simmons Pierce Manner. Sounds good.
Are the hardy boys in it? Sounds like the hardy
boys are in it? That would be a copyright infringement, Jack,
But it's a ghost, an orphaned girl who uses the
help of ghostly companions to solve the murder of her parents.
All right, it's all telling stuff, man, all the execution
(12:26):
obviously pelling stuff. Okay, that's ultimately a story about kindness
and the kind spirit of a humanity. That's what it is.
I think it is, unless it turns out his TikToker
dude demanded a cut. Oh, somebody is going to the
Internet's gonna get a hold of the old guy and
find out anything he's ever done untoward in his life.
No change the story around.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
No nursery stores a weird spot for a book signing,
it is, That's what I'm saying, you're trying to reach
the pickles, and this guy's sitting there with his books
the table.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
So I walked by the one table says can you
give us some money for youth sports? And then I
got him to the other table. It's a guy with
a novel I don't.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
And then on the way out, you're being sold chocolate bars.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Right exactly. Well, but inside the story even you're thinking, yeah,
I got to get some some ground beef for the
hamburgers tonight.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
You gotta get buns and.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Ketchup, and probably ought to find a good summer beach
rad too. An obscure novel, said nobody, but sounds good.
I mean they solved the murder of her parents. Favor that, right,
if it gone unsolved, it'd be disappointed. Well, right, yeah,
I guess these sound. Fridge is now reasonably clean. Yeah,
that mayonnaise was past it to date. I'm glad I
(13:31):
didn't open it. Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong and Getty show,
my son brought up I thought we were gonna eat
Rocky Mountain oysters when we were in Kansas, and I forgot.
He's been wanting to try Rocky Mountain oysters, which have
you ever been anywhere, Katie. You're a lifetime Bay Area person.
(13:52):
They probably don't have Rocky Mountain oysters anywhere there. No,
I have not had Rocky Mountain oysters. But it was
as common as anything could be as bar food for me,
like in college and that sort of stuff. Cow testicles
fried up, and I told my son we'd try them
when we were back in which you taught us see
Grandma and Grandpa, but we forgot to wait. Well next time.
Oh darn, you know me. I believe it's karmically unacceptable.
(14:17):
It's just, you know, I don't belong to any religion
that forbids me from eating any particular foods. But I've
crafted my own set of beliefs, and I will not
eat another man's even if it is a cow man.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I will not eat another creature's testicules.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
What about juggling them, I asked, Because I did that.
I juggled pig testicles for charity. Oh really I did.
They were quite slick.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
M That is one of my favorite things you've ever said.
You know, I didn't see that coming. I juggled pig
testicles for charity. They were quite slick.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
The feed loss in Western Kansas used to once or
so they'd have what they called a ball fry because
they had such a so many of them built up
over a year of castration. Had a ball fry, and
that's everybody would come out, and that's how you go
through them all. Well, I suppose it is putting them
to use as opposed to just throw them.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Yeah, wasting or juggling them like some sort of savage.
It was entertaining. So now we played tug war with
the intestines after.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
It was a long day. Oh my lord. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
We called it the meat circus. It was a whole thing. Yeah,
what was the charity?
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I can't remember what it was.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
It was something that was going against PETA, though I
remember donating to like I think it was a butcher
shop or something.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
So we were a fundamentalist militia. The charity wasn't The
charity wasn't neuticles for ball less hogs? Was it that?
I don't know, weird circular logic thing there. Uh So
this reminded me of a Saturday A Live bit from
Saturday Night. The the idea because these rocky Mountain oysters,
you can get him with your cheeseburger, where you've got
(16:04):
fries or that or whatever, and they did you see
the shrimp tower skit on Saturday Night Live James Broland.
That's what makes so funny. One of the greatest actors
of all time playing the lead role. Anyways, he's throwing
a very fancy party and he has a shrimp tower
and it's just, you know, a little shrimp built up
to the shape of a tower. Anyway, he called it
(16:26):
the thinking Man's mozzarella Stick, which I thought, I'm very funny.
That is dryly hilarious. That is funny.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I'll have to seek that out.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
So we're about to play a clip at John Cougar
mellencamp uh talking at a concert. Is this one of
the concerts that he's doing with Willie Nelson and Bob
Dylan or is he on his own here on his
own hair? So he's touring with I know he's going
to be I think at the Hollywood Bowl in LA
which I'd like to see melonhead Willie Nelson and the
(17:10):
ancient Bob Dylan. Of course, Bob Dylan's not ancient compared
to Willie Nelson, who just turned ninety, right, it's got
to be something when he sings. I was just reading
the set list on these concerts, and Willie sings among
these classics. Funny, how time slips away? Did it slip away?
You've been on ninety years. I don't think it slipped away.
Something happened to you when you were thirty, Eh, it
(17:31):
was sixty years ago. It didn't just slip away. But
I thought the set list would be interesting. It's not.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Really.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
It's pretty much the songs you expect, melonhead sings, pink houses,
and you know that sort of stuff. I wonder why
he's touring. A couple of years ago, he said he
had no interest in being a jukebox. If people didn't
particularly want to hear new music or new versions of
old songs, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
He had no interest in being a juke.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
He did get a tooth knocked out by his kid,
like a year or so ago. Did that cause him
any financial difficulties? He and his son got a fistfight.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I don't imagine he can afford basic dentistry. But I
don't know. I have no idea of his financial wherewithal.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Why is will he doing it? That's just what he does.
I don't think he can imagine any other life right,
And like Keith Richards the Rolling Stones, why in the
world would they play more shows, much less launch a
giant tour. Well, I think Willie, that's what they do.
Will he's paying off his tax debts, right. I don't
know if he still has that, But that story was
thirty years ago, Michael. But he also he travels with
(18:39):
his sons. I've watched some of the videos from the
bus and his kids are like sixty so, but he
travels with the sons who are in the band too,
so it's probably probably a pretty good time. I mean,
what would be better than that? Really? Actually, I can't
think of anything that would be better than that. So,
and then Bob Dylan. I don't know what Bob Dylan's doing. Yeah,
he is exactly. He doesn't need the money or the
(19:00):
acclaim or the Maybe he likes hotels. I don't know.
But John Cougar is on stage for a while, and
do we need to know anything else about that? No,
he starts, he's just talking to the crowd. Okay, here
we go, and she went.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
It's just like he ready to be a smart like
when I'm talking to Jesus.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
And then it got real quiet.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
What do you think, I mean an, hey, Joe, find
this guy and then they see him after the show. Anyway,
before I was a celubating, ruptured.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Guys. I can stopped this show right now.
Speaker 11 (19:54):
I'm just doing.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Since you've been so wonderful. IM had to cut about
ten songs.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Out of the show.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
So that's a tape of did he actually leave? Wow?
And he actually left? That's not cool. Don't let an
a hole and the show. So you heard that the
crowd was entirely on your side? Was one guy? So
(20:34):
it's into a story. Some guy play some music, which
is hurtful if you're telling a story that you think
is either funny or important or something like that. Right,
and but yeah, I think the rest of the crowd
was at least willing to listen to your story, if
not enthusiastic about it. Yeah, that was week.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
No, it sounded like they were with him. They laughed
at the joke and everything. It was just fine.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
And some of them even went ah, hey at the
guy who interrupted him.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
A lot of people did.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So then he plays like six bars of Jack and leaves.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, he's old and bitter.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I enough time for that.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I have thought about this a lot. I so on
Charlie Rose, which I miss a lot, the TV show
he had in the same week. I think John Mellencamp
and John Prine. If you don't know Joan Prine, he
was a very old singer songwriter who never had commercial
(21:33):
success like John Mellencamp, but was hugely adored by people
who like music anyway. He died COVID, but had him
on both that week. So they're both super old and
at the end of their careers. And it struck me
how John Prine had what I hope I can have
when I'm old, but I don't think I can because
I don't even have it now. He just had. He
(21:53):
just had like a rye. This is kind of funny,
isn't it? View of old I mean, this is almost
amusing what this is like, the health problems and the
this and the that, and the kids and the marriage
and just the way these songs were like that too.
But John Mellencamp was clearly a bitter It went by
too fast, sad, and I relate to those feelings. But
(22:19):
just you know, I wish I wish I were still thirty,
you know, that sort of thing, And I thought those
are there's two really good examples. Has nothing to do
with being famous. Of how you approach getting older. You
either just accept it and kind of enjoy it and
marvel at its everything that's it's evolved, or be really
(22:39):
bitter that you're not thirty and cool anymore, like Mellencamp was.
And I just thought that was interesting, and I think
heard a little of it there. Yeah, I think, Well,
let me start with this. Was playing golf the other
day and we saw some distance away a mutual friend
talked about him a little bit. One of the most
(23:01):
cheerful guys you've ever met. This guy wakes up in
the morning, cheerful, he goes to bed cheerful. He's just
made like that, and it's it's an amazing blessing. And
I commented to my buddy, who also has a more
than one kid, I said, anybody who's raised multiple kids
knows you come out of the womb like that, or
you don't. I've always said, and this number is pulled
(23:23):
out of my imagination that you got maybe about fifteen
twenty percent around the edges. You can push yourself in
this way or push yourself in that way, but you
are who you are.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
And I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Could John Mellencamp have ever been John Prine in his
old age? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I don't know either. You're I think you're right about that.
And at fifteen and twenty percent, you could either go
fifteen percent more bitter and awful or fifteen percent more
cheerful and optimistic, and that that makes a big difference
in your life. I'm not saying it's insignificant. I'm just
saying my body, his name is Dan, I was born annoyed.
(24:04):
I'm never going to be Dan, right, And I love
the guy and we're good friends. Actually, I think my
acerbic eye rolling view of the world is amusing to him,
and blah blah whatever it works. The one thing I know,
and I try, I've tried to be honest about this
with myself. All of us want, all of us attribute
(24:25):
our good qualities to choice and our bad qualities to genetics.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I got a strength of character.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, all the good things about me are because I
chose to be that way and I worked hard to
be that right. I gotta admit when I when I
was taking in the two different attitudes about growing over
and your and your your best days being behind you.
I related to the emotions of John Mellencamp a lot
more than John Bryn. I'd like to be like John Bryan,
(24:55):
but I feel in my head, in my heart more
like John Mellencamp, whatever reason, because I think I'm born
that way. I was, this is where I am. Yeah.
And then there's the question of epigenetics, which is one
of my favorite things I've ever learned. You have your genetics,
but then you've got a bunch of things in your genes.
You try to end up with a half cat half
dog sort of situation.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Is that what that is? Yeah, that's that's right exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, yeah, No, it's there are like triggers that you
have genetically, and if certain things happen to you or
you run into them, that those switches might be flipped.
But if you don't go through those things, they won't
be If your environment is you have good nutrition or whatever,
(25:41):
it'll never.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Manifest itself itself.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's not like the entirety of who you are is
determined by your genetics. Your experience in your life plays
a role too in various ways. But you know, we're
in the early days of really understanding that stuff. I
just remember so they both sang songs that week and
on Prime Song at that time. This is the last
album before he died. I think it was When I
(26:04):
Get to Heaven. And there's a line in there something
about I'm gonna kiss that pretty girl on the tilted whirl,
I'm gonna smoke a cigarette that's nine miles long. It's
it's like looking back on the best parts of your
life and wanting to relive them, or getting to smoke
cigarette again. And John Couer had a line in his
song and all your best efforts don't amount to anything anymore,
And I thought, wow, that's just such two different views
(26:27):
of where you are at the end of your career.
And one of you is happy and one of you
is miserable. But like you said, maybe you can't control that.
I don't know. I don't know. That's interesting acceptance is
that how much of that is inborn, your capacity to
just accept your life and it's reality. I'm gonna be
a really bitter old person. I think I'm pretty bitter
(26:50):
young person. Yeah, well I can see that I will
be quite self deprecating, but a bitter old person. The
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Speaker 12 (27:09):
Fathers get a day, but we get a month of
alphabet soup. I like to the alternate people, what I
don't think that's society is this.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I think that's the point of Pride Month. And that's
so it's all due respect to my my gay friends
who are uniformly with the meme I saw the other day.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
LGB is all we need.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
The rest is not us well, and it's not just
a month, as you know, there are a whole bunch
of other weeks and days around the same theme throughout
the years, so it's not just a month a year,
ye know.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
But fathers get a day.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
And the reason that popped into my mind is we
have some kind of Father's Day related stuff and you know,
maybe it would have been better then because fathers only
get one day. Then you ought to shut up about
the importance of fathers. Hey, you weren't here on Friday
when Katie and I and Michael had the discussion that
we've had for many years of looking for a Father's
Day card and trying to find one that's not a
(28:11):
joke about flatulence or drinking beer or watching TV. Mother's
Day cards are all you know, there are some joke
Mother's Day cards, but there's tons of how important and
valued and crucial mothers are. Dad's Day cards are all
jokes about yeah what I just said, Yeah, yeah, very true.
(28:34):
So anyway, why would be we be in the least
hesitant to continue Father's Day thoughts or respect or that
sort of thing. Let's begin with Clip Tenant's Tristan Cassas Casas.
He's a Boston Red Sox player telling a story about
his dad.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
So I'm in coach pitch and you know, I'm so young,
I don't really know what's going on at this point. Still,
I'm still just playing baseball just to burn calaries and
get out there and get some son right. And you know,
I get out one day and I come back to
the dug out crying, pissed. And you know, that's that's
what a six year old does. He sits on the
bench and he cries, and he doesn't want to go
(29:10):
out there when you know his team's playing defense. So
my dad, you know, being the dad that he is
trying to teach me the lessons that he did in
his own special way, came into the dugout. He actually
grabbed me by my shirt dragged me to the line
and Looney Tunstyle kicked me out onto the field and
actually had one of my best friends that I went
to high school with later he ended up playing pro ball.
(29:32):
His mom actually called child Services on my dad at
the field. No, no, no, for there's no joke at the field.
I see my dad go away in the cop car
gets arrested. Send the nice of joke here. But that day,
that day, my dad taught me a super valuable lesson
that not not a lot of people know. And it's
that I had a responsibility to my teammates, I had
a responsibility to my coaches, to the parents that showed
(29:54):
up that day, all the fans who were at that
little league game, whatever it may be, to go out
there and my best effort, no matter how I was
feeling on the bench, no matter what I was going
through that day, or whatever little hardship that I was
feeling when I got out, that I still apply every
single time, because sometimes I just want to sit down
on this bench after I get out, and I want
to weave and I want to cry. But that's that's
(30:14):
not how baseball is. So yeah, I love my dad
to death. I wouldn't have this opportunity without him. But yeah,
funny little excerpt that's about that. That's the type of
that my dad is. So that's true.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
That.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I like the Looney Tuthes reference that it is.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
An amazing story.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
That took a turn though she called CPS and they
actually spent the night in jail.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, yeah, wow, did.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Not see that coming.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, that is a good story.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Also, like the fact that he's six and he said
the reason he was playing was to burn calories and
to get some sun. I never thought about that when
I was six, and I better work off this pop
tart cool second shot with chip cookie was totally unnecessary.
I'm gonna go play some baseball. Yeah, that's that's funny.
(31:09):
It reminds me of a conversation we've had before that,
you know, the and it's a cliche, and certainly the
roles overlap. But when little Johnny skins his knee, Mom is,
oh honey, oh no, and Dad's like, you'll be fine,
You'll be great, and that whole And I remember my
dad was my baseball coach a lot too, and he
would come out to the mound when I was pitching,
(31:30):
and I've said this told this story before too. He'd
say get this guy out, or I'm gonna pull you.
And it wasn't cruelty. It was a way to focus
me and to say, you know, you have a job
to do.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Here is what it is. I'm not out of here.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I'm not out here to tell you everything's gonna be okay,
because telling you go do it is telling you everything's
gonna be okay. Telling you I You're fine, go run
and play is that's a empowering message. To look at
me a man to man, even as like a fifteen
year old, and say focus, get this guy out.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
That's a compliment shift we've experienced. Yeah, i'd say, oh yeah,
I can't. Plus you know, as I've said before, I
was like you, damn right, I'm getting this guy out.
You're not pulling me. And it's just it's that's what
coaching is. That's what man to man coaching is. Now,
(32:33):
it can cross the line into being an a hole
if you're a bad coach.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
But it was a very good coach.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I don't know. Anxiety.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
It's going to cause anxiety. This is reminding me of
a story my dad told me. He played football in
high school and my grandfather. His dad was a surgeon,
and my dad took a cleat to the shin during
a game and my granddad sewed him up in the
in the team team locker room and then said get
your ass back out there.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
And this was during this of war. Yeah, pretty much,
I as well been.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Mid sixties.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
On the other hand, Katie, do we need any setup
for clip twelve?
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (33:13):
No, this is just where we're headed if this woke
crap continues.
Speaker 11 (33:18):
Hey, non binary offspring, Hey, non gender specific parent, just
wanted to let you know that dinner is ready if
you consent to it.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Of course I don't. I don't consent.
Speaker 11 (33:28):
Well, I was thinking maybe in an hour or so,
if you're up to it, me and your other non
gender specific parent can sit in the living room and
breathe for a little bit if it doesn't trigger you.
Of course, you know, I'm not sure if I'm triggered
by that or offended. I quite honestly, I don't know
what to feel anymore. Trust me, I don't know either. Honey,
Oh my god, did you just call me honey?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Oh my god?
Speaker 11 (33:45):
I am so sorry. That's harassment. Please don't tweet about this.
I already did. Well, it looks like my career is over. Well,
maybe think twenty times before you talk. We'll have to
live on the streets. Well, that doesn't matter to me
because my feelings are more important than all of our
physical well beings. Okay, well, I'm gonna go into the
living room and cry I love you.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You don't have to say it back. I'm not going
to wow.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Parent and child in the year twenty sixty.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
That's pretty good. I don't know if I'm triggered or offended.
I don't know what I'm feeling anymore.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I can't believe that dude's dad spent the night in jail. Yeah,
all right, I gotta ask how hard did he kick him?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
The boy looking back is he's full of love and
he did the right thing and laughing about it, So yeah,
he does. I don't know. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, wow,
that's quite a story.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
You know.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
They kicked each other pretty hard in those Limny Tunes cartoons.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Occasionally it was borderline brutality. Michael, you quit right, The
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