January 3, 2025 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:50):
Topic of race, this is going to end up being
good news you're going to be happy about. Okay, this
is not a downer segment when I get to some
statistics that back up what you think, what you what
we think, what your neighbors think, as opposed to what
you're being told every single day.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
But first of this, what are we about to hear? Katie?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
So this is from an YouTube podcast called so True,
and it's Caleb Herron, who is a gay comedian and
Nori Reid, who is queer, and I believe trams talking
about their one of them.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Is gay and one of them's queer. I don't I
don't use the term queer.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Refuse well, and I spank you verbally for using it.
It's an all purpose term that just means I'm against
the man man.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Okay, anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
My dad is white and I can't do anything about that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, there's nothing I can do.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
Sorry, I'm gonna cry because I can't do anything about that.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I hate that you had to go through that.
Speaker 7 (01:52):
Thank you as somebody of white experience, I know how
about it can.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Be, but my mom is full on Asian thank you.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
That's when my dad died. I cheered because I said,
that's one last white man. That's how progressive I am.
Oh my god, I like talk about ally. I said,
get him out of here, get him out of here.
I said, take him away, satan.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And that's kind of how it works, right.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
It's like if one white person dies, then you say
that like a person of color comes into the world.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, a diverse story gets elevated. It's kind of like
a spiritual experience.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Here's the problem with everything in modern society. You play
that for me ten years ago, I know they're jerking
me around, that they're just saying that to be provocative.
But now everything is so crazy that could be them
saying that to jerk me around, or it could be
one hundred percent what they believe.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I suspect it's sincere. Really, yes, oh yeah, I mean
they I have been insane folder of stories ready to
go about the so called DEI programs and universities and
various corporations in the government and how utterly racist and
twisted they are. Yeah, Katie, would you like to weigh
(03:09):
in on the authenticity or sincerity of the two gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well, it seemed quite sincere. And that's kind of the theme.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Of this podcast is mega left progressive hitting all the
talking points that the media salivates over.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
The fact that a philosophy that insane and insanely stupid
would have any currency in the modern world is frightening
to me. It is so post enlightenment, it is so
post to you know, racial healing. It's ugly, it's obscene,
and yet it has infected so many of our institutions.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Well, I remember when in California, and this is probably
ten fifteen years ago, white people were going to cease
being the majority. They were still going to be the
biggest group, but they weren't the majority. Of California and
the line got crossed. There were more people that weren't
white than were white for the first time ever. And
the cheering and celebration about that, it's just so weird
(04:09):
to me. Not that I cheer having more white people
than Harvey, who's cheering percentage of of race.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
That's nuts.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Folks who have been converted to the Church of Dei
of Wochism before it was it was called that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I remember when I remember, I can remember, like I
just there. I won't mention the name, but our newsman,
Marsha Phillips did the story and another person who was
a person of color on the show cheered, all right, yeah,
that's like, why is that thrilling for you? That will
be now less way? I mean, what do you think
is going to happen because of that? I don't think
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they think about that much at all. They've just been
recruited again into the cult of.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Racial politics and that's been super successful through the years.
But if you want to see how that works, go
to the Middle East, go to you know, any of
your capitals of your Muslim states and announce that you're
a proud Christian or an atheist. That's worse, you'll be
treated to tell them you're a gay atheist. Okay, if
you want to see how sectarian politics works, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So a poll that is good news.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Then this is from the Manhattan Institute Serious Organization. All polls,
not this one. But polls have shown we've gone backwards
on race since the nineties. Things have actually gotten worse
racially in this country in terms of attitudes since the nineties,
with you know, being more focused on race and theory
to make it better has made it worse. I think
(05:39):
we're all pretty much aware of that. And so they
ask people the question, are you're given two choices here?
Actually you're given three. Not sure is always a choice,
and you always have you know, a tiny percentage of people.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So oh no, I just want to hang out with
those people. Think about it for a minute. I'll wait.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Wait, when you look around, I mean, in your real life,
it has gotten better or worse, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No opinion.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
But the other two choices you have are we should
focus on creating a race conscious society to repair the
harms of the past by developing policies that benefit marginalized groups.
That's what we have been doing since the early nineties.
The other choice was, we should focus on creating a
color blind society where everyone is treated equally regardless of
(06:29):
the color of their skin. That's what we were doing
more or less post Martin Luther King Junior, pre the
early nineties, when things were actually getting better. Overall, it's
sixty sixty eight percent. The second choice, almost seventy percent
of Americans say we should focus on creating a color
blind society. Sorry, the most popular book in America, at
(06:52):
least according to all the TV hosts, was that Ibram
Kennedy crap about. There's no such color blind is code
for racist. There's no such thing as being I'm out
kick about color.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
That means you're a racist.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Okay, Well, seventy percent of America doesn't agree with that,
and you start breaking it down by different groups, and
it's just astounding. First of all, it's every single group,
it's majority. The smallest majority of just fifty percent is
Black people said that. But even fifty percent of black
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people said that versus thirty seven percent who chose the other.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
So fifty thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
You always say it's a good idea to because it's
not always just doesn't always add up to one hundred, right, right,
So only thirty seven percent of black people choose the
we should focus on race conscious society and make everything
about race for all the other groups.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It's not.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And I would like to see the Black folks divide
by age in that answer. I think over forty it'd
be vanishingly small.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Even Democrats. It's a twenty point win for let's be
color blind.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
And all this sort of stuff. It's a twenty point
win for Democrats.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
For young people, which might be most susceptible to this
sort of crap um, it's fifty six to thirty, twenty
six point win for let's be a colorblind society.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Wow, Wow, you are quite right when you mentioned we
were going to be talking about this. This is absolutely
the polar opposite of what you would be led to
believe by taking in the mainstream media.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Maybe you think the college crowd would be into this stuff. Nope,
it's sixty five twenty eight. We should be a colorblind
society for the college crowd.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Yet we've all been hammered with Dei and Robin DiAngelo
and Ibram Kenny and all of that garbage. There's a
big study out that we touched on. We didn't really
go into it. We should have that the eight billion
dollars spent every year on diversity training in the US.
In the US is demonstrably accomplishing the opposite of what
(08:56):
it claims, which is not surprising because says I, and
you and James Lindsay and other people have been trying
to communicate DEI isn't intending to get diversity. That's not
what it's there for. It's an instrument of the takeover
of institutions with the excuse of racial justice.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That's a dodge.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
It's the sheep's clothing the wolf is wearing.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
It also shows that it's the minority opinion by a
lot that's into It's the first Hispanic quarterback to ever
win a Super Bowl, or this is the first Indian
American to go into space, or this is all that
never ending crap. Is the minority opinion. Most people don't
want that. They don't want to focus on who's what
color or whatever. Just tell me Jim won the Super
(09:44):
Bowl or Sandy became secretary or whatever or what, but
leave that out of it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Amen to that.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah's heartening, that's some excellent news.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, And and this has been the message of our
show for a very, very long time. The truth is
what you live and what you see and what you
and your friends think, and don't be talked out of
the truth by the weirdos of the mainstream media. Who
are you know seeing their influence decrease moment by moment. Anyway,
(10:18):
it's easy to feel alone because we have this electronic,
media driven life that in one hundred years we've gone
from ninety eight percent of our interactions were in person,
in the same room with a human being to most
of our perception of the world comes from media that
(10:38):
is feeding it to us, and it is perverted our
sense of reality.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I think, well, all of society's become Plato's cave, except
it's the Internet now instead of shadows on a wall.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I got my kids Plato's Cave for Christmas. They played
before with it for like two days, and then it
went back in the closet.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Right a Plato.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Cave now tell us about play I see you have
to jump over Chesterton's fence to get in.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Oh see, these people are in a dark cave and
they're just seeing shadows from a fire, and they come
up with these perceptions of what the world is, and
then they finally get out of the cave and realize
that they are completely wrong, I mean, completely misled by
the perceptions that they were given by that. And it's
got long philosophical philosophical legs and tentacles going from there.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
But that is what we're doing with all this stuff,
I would agree.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yeah, the media, we've used the term funhouse mirrors or whatever,
but Plato's cave is a good illustration of it too.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I have had a piece of pie every single day
for five straight days, and let me tell you, if
you haven't tried that, it's not good for your digestive system.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Wow. I can only imagine the horror, just the heads up. Yes, Michael, Hey,
how you doing on the cheese cave? Oh yeah, wow? Yeah,
so that.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I was kind of hoping that the cheesecake would be
a binding agent after I eat the pie, which is.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
A bit of a theory.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
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Speaker 1 (12:31):
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Speaker 3 (12:43):
Why was I up last night late watching Jim Carrey
pontificate about the meaning of life? I didn't even know
actor Jim Carrey did that sort of thing. I've never
been a Jim Carrey fan.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Really.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I like Dumb and Dumber and I Peck Detective and
all that, but I like to but I hated the
Truman Show.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I just I don't know. I've never been into him.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I thought he was a pompous ass until last night
when I clicked on a Jim Carrey short and he
was talking about actually he was talking about forgiveness and
Jesus and all kinds of different stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I didn't know he was such a believer, but he is.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
And the reason I got sucked into that probably was
stuff I was looking for.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I am.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I got divorced three and a half years ago, and
I am not happy with where my life is. I
don't like the fact that I'm a single dad and
my kids are living up and a growing up in
a split household.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I hate that.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I hate it so much, and I haven't been able
to accept it and let it go at it all
since the day I found out about it, which is
which is not healthy, because you got no choice with
certain things that come your way in life. You got
no choice. You you got to accept him and move on.
And I've done that with everything in my life, everything
(13:58):
every in my life, all kinds of bad things that
happened in my life except for this one. And I haven't
been able to nudge an inch on this one for
some reason. And it drives me nuts.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Probably because you're reminded of the effects of it all
the time.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, that's part of it. Yeah, it is. The effects
of it are all day, every day.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
But anyway, so I got into this this somehow. I
was fed through the algorithm this stuff about Jim Carrey,
and it was it was bigger.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Than even that.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It was just the idea of you know, now is
all we've got, and accepting life for what it is
and not having expectations, and really his main thing is
just getting rid of your idea of who you are,
because it's all made up in your head anyway, and
just living your life, you know, moment by moment best
(14:44):
you can by your morals and visions of what you want.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
But just letting go of your whole vision of yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
His belief is everybody's torment, depression and all kinds of
different stuff comes from a a vision they have of
who they are, who they wanted to be, and it's
not meeting up with reality. And if you just let
go of all of that because you created it in
your own mind, it wasn't like, you know, God said,
(15:14):
this is who you have to pretend to be the
rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
If you just let go of all of that.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
He said, he had the kind of like gift of
becoming rich and successful and all these different things and
realizing it didn't make him happy before he was able
to let go of all that stuff. Not everybody has
that opportunity, but just to really realize that didn't do anything.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
That didn't help me at all. Yeah. Boy, there are
a million directions to go with this discussion.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's very deep and very interesting, and I had like
a brief five minute period of like really understanding it
while I was laying in bed last night and thinking,
I think I.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Can do this. This is the answer.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Let going letting go of the vision of what I
thought life was going to be, because it's not going
to be that. It's stupid to stay nailed to that
and try to force a square pagan too a round hole.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It'll never work. But then I lost it when I
got up at this morning. Well that's disappointed.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, maybe I'll maybe I'll get it back later today,
or maybe you have to work at it over time.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I don't know. This is silly and trivial compared to
that question.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
But I ran into somebody the other day who somebody said,
it is what it is, and they expressed that I
hate that. They said, I hate that expression. And then
and I realize any expression, if it's overused, becomes very annoying.
But it is what it is is the expression of
an ancient, ancient piece of wisdom. It is saying yeah,
it's straight out of Buddhism, it's straight of Christianity.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
It is saying amen, it is saying, so be it.
I have accepted it. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And I always like this phrase of if something doesn't
have a solution, it's not a problem. Dealing with everything
like it's a problem doesn't make any sense. Things without
a solution are a fact, they're not a problem, and
so now you just go on with your life.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Yeah, Well it does help to kind of stop and
contemplate this stuff and try to figure out which is which?
Right like you had your moment of clarity, then it
was time to go to work. And hadn't I had
it up here a second ago.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
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this unbelievable radio program.
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Speaker 4 (17:49):
Some economists have finally woken up to the fact that
human beings are not like computerized decision makers. They're also
of things that enter into economics, in particular, as Nobel
Prize winning economist George Akerloff and his collaborator Rachel Cranton said,
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I wrote years and years ago, identity may be the
most important economic decision people make, and it has to
do with how you see yourself, how you want to
project an identity, what group of people do you consider
yourself part of? And you make all sorts of economic
decisions based on not rational analysis, but identity.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
If I had known this was part of economics when
I was in college, I could have easily made it
my life. I only took microeconomics, which I hated. I mean,
it's obviously got its value supply to my own, etc.
But if I'd have known all this other stuff that
I find so fascinating about economics was part of it,
I would have man, I would have eaten that up.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, what would you call it?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Psychoeconomics, socioeconomics or something like that. But they gave the
example of an academic economist, not coincidentally, that's who we're
talking about. That would be a social category, and that's
the way they would see themselves or part of that
group whatever. So they probably own a practical car and
wear comfortable shoes, and if they showed up in a
portion nine to eleven or a pair of five hundred
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dollars loafers, they would all not only feel like they
were putting on airs, but they'd probably be mocked and
scorned to buy colleagues. In traditional economics models, it's hard
to rationalize why anyone would care so much about what
shoes I walk in wearing right, or what car I drive,
But that really affects decisions they go into.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Like individual when you.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Go to buy a pair of shoes or a car,
practically anything, certainly anything anybody's going to observe. The options
are not wide open for most people. They're limited to
your identity. It has to shot into that world of
your identity, which is interesting. We don't see ourselves out way.
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I think we most people like to see themselves as No,
I could wear any kind of footwear.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
It's completely up to me. I'm my own person.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
But no, it fits into a view you heavy of yourself,
where you want other people to have of you, or
you think you had whatever.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
And then they talk about individual gains from both material
outcomes and actions that conform to their identities.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Blah blah blah, and labor markets.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Workers are motivated by wages, of course, but also by
how well their job aligns with their identities. They give
the example of a corporate job might offer financial stability,
but if it conflicts with an individual's identity is an
I'm environmentalist, for instance, that's going to lead to satisfaction
and underperformance in this vein, trying to train coal miners
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to be nurses may be feudal and Jack, I love.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
The idea you gave when we were talking about this.
If you remember I.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Don't you said trying to train farmers because the family
farmers disappearing to be coders, have them sit in a
cubicle ten hours a data code, they would hang themselves.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, and you hear politicians through that around all the time,
like you can just retrain people that have been a
certain sort of person to be a completely different sort
of person. And as the point of what you're saying is,
it's not just about the money.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
So there's other research by a couple of guys you've
never heard of, to provide a granular look into the
mechanics of this phenomenon. There's studies based on lab experiments
that prime subjects to see different parts of their identities
is especially salient. Demonstrate that people may out for lower
paying jobs if it means greater congruence or you know,
fitting in with their social group, or might choose consumer
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goods that signal affiliation to a particular identity despite higher
costs and no higher quality.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
We see that all the time in fashion Police.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
So they go into that at some length, and it's
a very very interesting We'll post link at Armstrong and
Getty dot com under hot links.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
But then let's see.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
They go more deeply into that diverges from traditional notions
of comparative advantage typically applied to countries or firms. I
met with several well known psychologists, writs this journalist. Across
the country, many assume that heredity largely dictated the identities
to which people gravitated. We investigated the academic paths chosen
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by students in racially and socioeconomically diverse schools. We found
that students often align their academic efforts with what they
perceive to be their comparative advantages. Interesting, and this is
something that we and others have observed through the years,
and people are extremely uncomfortable talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
But we all ought to.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Grow up and just say what's true and whether it
makes us feel comfortable or not. If you want to
actually solve problems, you better reckon with reality anyway. A
student who sees his strength in social leadership rather than
academic achievement might choose to invest more in social endeavors.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
This decision is based both on.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Where he or she excels and where he perceives the
greatest return for his efforts in both self fulfillment and importantly,
social recognition. Booty or booty Yeah, in other research, who
is I I haven't mentioned the name of the person
writing this, Roland Fryar, who's an economist and a researcher anyway,
or were we in other research? I found that black
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and Hispanic students with high grade point averages tended to
be less popular, which was not true for white students.
This was in line with previous works suggesting that high
achieving black students were sometimes mocked for quote acting white.
By incorporating this kind of peer pressure, the framework we've
been talking about also illuminates how gender norms can influence
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field of study choices. Women might avoid STEM fields not
because a lack of ability or interest, but due to
societal norms dictating what is considered appropriate for their sex.
They found a single business school.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yes, that is really interesting.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
That may have changed since I was in school, or
maybe it depends on the neighborhood you're living, like. I
live in a college town, So it would make sense
that popularity and high school achievement might go together, but
it didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
At my school.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
The most popular people were absolutely not the people with
the highest grade point averages, and would have been kind
of unimaginable that it would.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Be interesting interesting, and here as white as they come.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, and we're all white. One moment, I'm sorry. One
more example, and then I want to make a point
kind of disputing a little of this, but let's see this.
Guy and his co authors have found that single female
business school students quote reported lower desired salaries and willingness
to travel and work long hours on a real stakes
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placement questionnaire when they expected their classmates to see their preference,
a phenomenon known as acting.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Wife as opposed to acting white.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
That is interesting, so and I misunderstood when I read
it the first time. So if you ask single female
business school students, what's your desired salary? What's your willingness
to travel and work long hours? They will answer differently
if they expect their peers to see their answers.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Wow, I'm not sure I understand that.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yeah, I'm one thing, And it's funny. Tim Sanderfer and I.
One of the few like significant difficult disagreements we've ever
had is when we were doing a book club thingy
that some of you may remember, when we were talking
about Sebastian Junger's book Tribe, and I really liked it
and thought it was really interesting thought provoking, and Tim
(25:47):
didn't like it at all. He thought it was collectivist claptrap.
I am paraphrasing bluntly and skilllessly. I'm sure Tim expressed
his opinion much more eloquently. But the thing, and I
think I may have said it to Tim, is that
what Tim has to remember and what we have to remember,
is that Tim is like at the the outer one
(26:09):
percent of iconoclastic individualists the way he sees the world,
and you and I are way out on that scale too,
I think. And there are some very lovely people, very
nice people who are like way past the midway point,
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and they're like good twenty five percent toward They find
it really rewarding to be part of what other people
are doing and go along with the crowd and to conform.
They get a feeling of belonging from that that I
think most real individualists.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Don't experience in the same way.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Right, And so you've got to remember when you're thinking
about society on a whole, not everybody sees the.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
World like I do.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Hyeah, especially if for talking economics like you said earlier, Yeah,
you just do need to observe or take in what
is whether it makes sense to you or not.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And one of the great revolutions of revelations, not revolutions,
well there's a revolution, it was a revelation revolution is
that the Founding Fathers designed the Constitution to be ironclad
against any takeover by monarchs or dictators or even populous.
Not because most humans crave liberty, but because most humans don't.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
That was the danger. And when I realized that, I thought, oh, oh, yes.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It works both ways though that whole want to be
part of the crowd, It depends on your crowd. And
that gets to the we were talking about the whole
keeping it real thing earlier. If your crowd is it's
not cool to really achieve, it's not a good way
to keep it real. If if your crowd is, you know,
achieving is the thing to be cool, then but keeping
it real's fine.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yeah, something to be said for looking at the crowd
around you and assessing whether they are helping your life
or hurting it.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
The desire for acceptance, so, I mean, it's right there
in Maslow's hierarchy of needs. It's a big one belonging
maslowt to shut up. I don't care what he thinks.
Shut up, Maslow, get down off your Pyramid.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Yeah, or Jack your Joe podcasts and our hot links
The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Let's be clear what's happening in this country. It's Nazism.
Republicans are Nazis.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
You cannot separate yourselves from the bad white people.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Growing up in the nineties, I never thought much about race.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Sure you noticed, but never really seemed to matter that much,
at least not to me, being a.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
White, straight, cisgender man. It's the top of the piles.
I'm on the top of the bile. That's me. Am
I Racist? I would really appreciate it if you left.
I'm trying to learn the long this Jurney, Do you
please leave?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
That's for Am I Racist? Which I'm going to on
Saturday and I look forward to it.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Yeah, before we talk about that, just real quickly, because
I'll forget again. I watched the brand new Netflix Apollo
thirteen documentary last night. It was outstanding, absolutely great, compelling,
a lot of NASA footage from the archives that hadn't
been seen.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I read that it was even more dramatic than the movie, which,
of course, you know, is scripted in such a way
to make it more dramatic to make it dramatic, which
sounds amazing.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I was on the edge of my seat. Judy had
a commitment. She got home, like with ten minutes left,
and I said.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
All right, I gotta finish this. I gotta finish this.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I got it and during without giving too much away,
of course, it's a historical event. People know what happened,
but just the structure of the thing. But during the
moments at the very end, when it wasn't clear the
astronauts were alive, I said to Judy, sitting next to
me on the couch, I said, I.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Know how this ends, and this is killing.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
It's just unbelievably beautifully done.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
My only it's not a criticism.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
It's the only way it pales in comparison to the
brilliant movie with Tom Hanks, The Delicious, Kevin Bacon and
Gary Sinez.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Is that.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
The documentary under dramatized the incredible creativity it took to
redesign systems to do something completely different that the movie
did brilliantly. As the folks back on Earth were trying
to figure out how do we have them build a
filter to get all the carbon dioxide out of the capsule,
(30:44):
and they literally took a tube from this, a box
from that, some cloth from that, and said, all right,
plug this in. And they conducted these experiments, created this
technology out of nothing in the space of like thirty
six hours, working frantically around the clock. So I would suggest,
(31:05):
you know, watch the movie and the document and then
a nonspiring story.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
And then Tom Hanks dies of aids or is that
a different movie.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Different movie, another fine film, though he and Jenny get together.
I will also make this point if you're done with
your inanities. And this is kind of a leading It
was interesting that mission control, the virtually everyone involved was
(31:32):
a white man.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Which is why against the I won't recognize the moon landing,
and and we as a society of you know, I
think you come a long way in involving the best
and brightest, no matter what they look like.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
On the other hand, it was also undeniable that all
of those white fellas were brilliant, hardworking, creative, responsible, compassionate.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
And virtually everything you could want from.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
A human being. So hey, here's an idea. Let's not
demonize people because of the color of their skin. We
used to agree on that, which brings us to Matt
Walsh's hilarious and uncomfortable new m I Racist, which is
very enjoyable. It's I think the number four movie around
the country or sometimes is it really a top five
(32:28):
top five box office? No kidding yet got no reviews
zero And that was actually the topic of Matt's recent
Twitter thread. Many of you have asked how it's possible
that our new film, am I Racist hasn't been reviewed
by a single mainstream critic, even with a ninety nine
percent audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Do you do something similar to the other direction like
Bowling from Columbine that's from the Left and the Michael
Moore any of the Michael Moore movies. Not only does
it get endless reviews, it wins Oscars.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Yeah, yep, top five box office debut. Beginning in August,
we reached out to dozens of mainstream out let's offering
an early screener of the film. These outlets included Time, AP, Indie, Wier, Variety, THHR,
Times New Yorker, and A bunch more all the usual
suspect You know what I'm going to name some of
the usual suspects. Oh, that's that's the list. Okay, blah
(33:22):
blah blah.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
We did not a single one responded and said they
would review the movie.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
We did, however, that yeah, follow it up to virtual silence,
So they bugged him again and said, hey, did you
get our package and everything? And virtual silence. We did, however,
receive a flurry of unprofessional emails from independent critics who
were enraged we'd even.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Ask them to review the film.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
One of them the wrote that he wouldn't waste any
professional time on a movie opening in over fifteen hundred
theaters because I was involved. R it's Matt Walsh. Let's see,
here's the note. Wahaha absolutely not hardest decline. I will
not waste a second of my life on Matt Walsh.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Another critics said you'd have to strap me to a
chair like Malcolm McDowell. Let's say clockwork orange reference to
get me to watch this thing. Another wrote, you take
me off this list. After it was clear that am
I Racist was a hit, Variety attempted to cover for
this oversight with a claim that Daily Wire did not
screen the movie for critics. We've asked them to correct this,
(34:21):
but they have not. They still haven't posted a review,
but I hope they will a few other mainstream outlets
have since requested screeners but have yet to publish a review.
One major mainstream outlet even acknowledged we had attempted to
get them at advanced screener, but said the film had
slipped through the cracks. This isn't a mistake. You'd be
hard pressed to find another film that opened in fifteen
(34:41):
more than fifteen hundred theaters that was completely snubbed by
mainstream critics.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
If Am I Racist were terrible.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
These outlets could have reviewed it and trashed it, But
the reality is they're afraid of it. Am I Racist
been so successful because we specifically because we didn't churn
out another ste predictable Hollywood style film blah blah, blah blah,
one last thing. Rolling Stone was one of the first
outlets to request the screener for the review after the
(35:09):
movie was announced back in July. They've yet to post
a review, which is a bummer because I was looking
forward to theirs. Most of all, I've said many times,
there's a huge growing awareness of how the woke thing
and critical race theory and radical gender theory and queer theory,
the transgender thing it's all neo Marxism with different guys
(35:30):
as different faces, but it's all intent on tearing down
Western civilization and putting those people in charge. We are
at the end of the beginning, not the beginning of
the end. Here is a really well done, controversial, but
extremely relevant movie that they're so.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Afraid of they won't even review.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
It to trash it. They pretend it doesn't exist. We've
barely begun the fight.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
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Speaker 3 (00:50):
Topic of race, this is going to end up being
good news you're going to be happy about. Okay, this
is not a downer segment when I get to some
statistics that back up what you think, what you what
we think, what your neighbors think, as opposed to what
you're being told every single day.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
But first of this, what are we about to hear? Katie?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
So this is from an YouTube podcast called so True,
and it's Caleb Herron, who is a gay comedian and
Nori Reid, who is queer, and I believe trams talking
about their one of them.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Is gay and one of them's queer. I don't I
don't use the term queer.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Refuse well, and I spank you verbally for using it.
It's an all purpose term that just means I'm against
the man man.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Okay, anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
My dad is white and I can't do anything about that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, there's nothing I can do.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
Sorry, I'm gonna cry because I can't do anything about that.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I hate that you had to go through that.
Speaker 7 (01:52):
Thank you as somebody of white experience, I know how
about it can.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Be, but my mom is full on Asian thank you.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
That's when my dad died. I cheered because I said,
that's one last white man. That's how progressive I am.
Oh my god, I like talk about ally. I said,
get him out of here, get him out of here.
I said, take him away, satan.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And that's kind of how it works, right.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
It's like if one white person dies, then you say
that like a person of color comes into the world.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, a diverse story gets elevated. It's kind of like
a spiritual experience.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Here's the problem with everything in modern society. You play
that for me ten years ago, I know they're jerking
me around, that they're just saying that to be provocative.
But now everything is so crazy that could be them
saying that to jerk me around, or it could be
one hundred percent what they believe.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I suspect it's sincere. Really, yes, oh yeah, I mean
they I have been insane folder of stories ready to
go about the so called DEI programs and universities and
various corporations in the government and how utterly racist and
twisted they are. Yeah, Katie, would you like to weigh
(03:09):
in on the authenticity or sincerity of the two gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well, it seemed quite sincere. And that's kind of the theme.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Of this podcast is mega left progressive hitting all the
talking points that the media salivates over.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
The fact that a philosophy that insane and insanely stupid
would have any currency in the modern world is frightening
to me. It is so post enlightenment, it is so
post to you know, racial healing. It's ugly, it's obscene,
and yet it has infected so many of our institutions.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Well, I remember when in California, and this is probably
ten fifteen years ago, white people were going to cease
being the majority. They were still going to be the
biggest group, but they weren't the majority. Of California and
the line got crossed. There were more people that weren't
white than were white for the first time ever. And
the cheering and celebration about that, it's just so weird
(04:09):
to me. Not that I cheer having more white people
than Harvey, who's cheering percentage of of race.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
That's nuts.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Folks who have been converted to the Church of Dei
of Wochism before it was it was called that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I remember when I remember, I can remember, like I
just there. I won't mention the name, but our newsman,
Marsha Phillips did the story and another person who was
a person of color on the show cheered, all right, yeah,
that's like, why is that thrilling for you? That will
be now less way? I mean, what do you think
is going to happen because of that? I don't think
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they think about that much at all. They've just been
recruited again into the cult of.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Racial politics and that's been super successful through the years.
But if you want to see how that works, go
to the Middle East, go to you know, any of
your capitals of your Muslim states and announce that you're
a proud Christian or an atheist. That's worse, you'll be
treated to tell them you're a gay atheist. Okay, if
you want to see how sectarian politics works, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So a poll that is good news.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Then this is from the Manhattan Institute Serious Organization. All polls,
not this one. But polls have shown we've gone backwards
on race since the nineties. Things have actually gotten worse
racially in this country in terms of attitudes since the nineties,
with you know, being more focused on race and theory
to make it better has made it worse. I think
(05:39):
we're all pretty much aware of that. And so they
ask people the question, are you're given two choices here?
Actually you're given three. Not sure is always a choice,
and you always have you know, a tiny percentage of people.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So oh no, I just want to hang out with
those people. Think about it for a minute. I'll wait.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Wait, when you look around, I mean, in your real life,
it has gotten better or worse, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No opinion.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
But the other two choices you have are we should
focus on creating a race conscious society to repair the
harms of the past by developing policies that benefit marginalized groups.
That's what we have been doing since the early nineties.
The other choice was, we should focus on creating a
color blind society where everyone is treated equally regardless of
(06:29):
the color of their skin. That's what we were doing
more or less post Martin Luther King Junior, pre the
early nineties, when things were actually getting better. Overall, it's
sixty sixty eight percent. The second choice, almost seventy percent
of Americans say we should focus on creating a color
blind society. Sorry, the most popular book in America, at
(06:52):
least according to all the TV hosts, was that Ibram
Kennedy crap about. There's no such color blind is code
for racist. There's no such thing as being I'm out
kick about color.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
That means you're a racist.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Okay, Well, seventy percent of America doesn't agree with that,
and you start breaking it down by different groups, and
it's just astounding. First of all, it's every single group,
it's majority. The smallest majority of just fifty percent is
Black people said that. But even fifty percent of black
(07:25):
people said that versus thirty seven percent who chose the other.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
So fifty thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
You always say it's a good idea to because it's
not always just doesn't always add up to one hundred, right, right,
So only thirty seven percent of black people choose the
we should focus on race conscious society and make everything
about race for all the other groups.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It's not.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And I would like to see the Black folks divide
by age in that answer. I think over forty it'd
be vanishingly small.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Even Democrats. It's a twenty point win for let's be
color blind.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
And all this sort of stuff. It's a twenty point
win for Democrats.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
For young people, which might be most susceptible to this
sort of crap um, it's fifty six to thirty, twenty
six point win for let's be a colorblind society.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Wow, Wow, you are quite right when you mentioned we
were going to be talking about this. This is absolutely
the polar opposite of what you would be led to
believe by taking in the mainstream media.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Maybe you think the college crowd would be into this stuff. Nope,
it's sixty five twenty eight. We should be a colorblind
society for the college crowd.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Yet we've all been hammered with Dei and Robin DiAngelo
and Ibram Kenny and all of that garbage. There's a
big study out that we touched on. We didn't really
go into it. We should have that the eight billion
dollars spent every year on diversity training in the US.
In the US is demonstrably accomplishing the opposite of what
(08:56):
it claims, which is not surprising because says I, and
you and James Lindsay and other people have been trying
to communicate DEI isn't intending to get diversity. That's not
what it's there for. It's an instrument of the takeover
of institutions with the excuse of racial justice.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That's a dodge.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
It's the sheep's clothing the wolf is wearing.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
It also shows that it's the minority opinion by a
lot that's into It's the first Hispanic quarterback to ever
win a Super Bowl, or this is the first Indian
American to go into space, or this is all that
never ending crap. Is the minority opinion. Most people don't
want that. They don't want to focus on who's what
color or whatever. Just tell me Jim won the Super
(09:44):
Bowl or Sandy became secretary or whatever or what, but
leave that out of it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Amen to that.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah's heartening, that's some excellent news.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, And and this has been the message of our
show for a very, very long time. The truth is
what you live and what you see and what you
and your friends think, and don't be talked out of
the truth by the weirdos of the mainstream media. Who
are you know seeing their influence decrease moment by moment. Anyway,
(10:18):
it's easy to feel alone because we have this electronic,
media driven life that in one hundred years we've gone
from ninety eight percent of our interactions were in person,
in the same room with a human being to most
of our perception of the world comes from media that
(10:38):
is feeding it to us, and it is perverted our
sense of reality.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I think, well, all of society's become Plato's cave, except
it's the Internet now instead of shadows on a wall.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I got my kids Plato's Cave for Christmas. They played
before with it for like two days, and then it
went back in the closet.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Right a Plato.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Cave now tell us about play I see you have
to jump over Chesterton's fence to get in.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Oh see, these people are in a dark cave and
they're just seeing shadows from a fire, and they come
up with these perceptions of what the world is, and
then they finally get out of the cave and realize
that they are completely wrong, I mean, completely misled by
the perceptions that they were given by that. And it's
got long philosophical philosophical legs and tentacles going from there.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
But that is what we're doing with all this stuff,
I would agree.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yeah, the media, we've used the term funhouse mirrors or whatever,
but Plato's cave is a good illustration of it too.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I have had a piece of pie every single day
for five straight days, and let me tell you, if
you haven't tried that, it's not good for your digestive system.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Wow. I can only imagine the horror, just the heads up. Yes, Michael, Hey,
how you doing on the cheese cave? Oh yeah, wow? Yeah,
so that.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I was kind of hoping that the cheesecake would be
a binding agent after I eat the pie, which is.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
A bit of a theory.
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Speaker 3 (12:43):
Why was I up last night late watching Jim Carrey
pontificate about the meaning of life? I didn't even know
actor Jim Carrey did that sort of thing. I've never
been a Jim Carrey fan.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Really.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I like Dumb and Dumber and I Peck Detective and
all that, but I like to but I hated the
Truman Show.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I just I don't know. I've never been into him.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I thought he was a pompous ass until last night
when I clicked on a Jim Carrey short and he
was talking about actually he was talking about forgiveness and
Jesus and all kinds of different stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I didn't know he was such a believer, but he is.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
And the reason I got sucked into that probably was
stuff I was looking for.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I am.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I got divorced three and a half years ago, and
I am not happy with where my life is. I
don't like the fact that I'm a single dad and
my kids are living up and a growing up in
a split household.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I hate that.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I hate it so much, and I haven't been able
to accept it and let it go at it all
since the day I found out about it, which is
which is not healthy, because you got no choice with
certain things that come your way in life. You got
no choice. You you got to accept him and move on.
And I've done that with everything in my life, everything
(13:58):
every in my life, all kinds of bad things that
happened in my life except for this one. And I haven't
been able to nudge an inch on this one for
some reason. And it drives me nuts.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Probably because you're reminded of the effects of it all
the time.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, that's part of it. Yeah, it is. The effects
of it are all day, every day.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
But anyway, so I got into this this somehow. I
was fed through the algorithm this stuff about Jim Carrey,
and it was it was bigger.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Than even that.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It was just the idea of you know, now is
all we've got, and accepting life for what it is
and not having expectations, and really his main thing is
just getting rid of your idea of who you are,
because it's all made up in your head anyway, and
just living your life, you know, moment by moment best
(14:44):
you can by your morals and visions of what you want.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
But just letting go of your whole vision of yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
His belief is everybody's torment, depression and all kinds of
different stuff comes from a a vision they have of
who they are, who they wanted to be, and it's
not meeting up with reality. And if you just let
go of all of that because you created it in
your own mind, it wasn't like, you know, God said,
(15:14):
this is who you have to pretend to be the
rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
If you just let go of all of that.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
He said, he had the kind of like gift of
becoming rich and successful and all these different things and
realizing it didn't make him happy before he was able
to let go of all that stuff. Not everybody has
that opportunity, but just to really realize that didn't do anything.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
That didn't help me at all. Yeah. Boy, there are
a million directions to go with this discussion.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's very deep and very interesting, and I had like
a brief five minute period of like really understanding it
while I was laying in bed last night and thinking,
I think I.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Can do this. This is the answer.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Let going letting go of the vision of what I
thought life was going to be, because it's not going
to be that. It's stupid to stay nailed to that
and try to force a square pagan too a round hole.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It'll never work. But then I lost it when I
got up at this morning. Well that's disappointed.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, maybe I'll maybe I'll get it back later today,
or maybe you have to work at it over time.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I don't know. This is silly and trivial compared to
that question.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
But I ran into somebody the other day who somebody said,
it is what it is, and they expressed that I
hate that. They said, I hate that expression. And then
and I realize any expression, if it's overused, becomes very annoying.
But it is what it is is the expression of
an ancient, ancient piece of wisdom. It is saying yeah,
it's straight out of Buddhism, it's straight of Christianity.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
It is saying amen, it is saying, so be it.
I have accepted it. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And I always like this phrase of if something doesn't
have a solution, it's not a problem. Dealing with everything
like it's a problem doesn't make any sense. Things without
a solution are a fact, they're not a problem, and
so now you just go on with your life.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Yeah, Well it does help to kind of stop and
contemplate this stuff and try to figure out which is which?
Right like you had your moment of clarity, then it
was time to go to work. And hadn't I had
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Some economists have finally woken up to the fact that
human beings are not like computerized decision makers. They're also
of things that enter into economics, in particular, as Nobel
Prize winning economist George Akerloff and his collaborator Rachel Cranton said,
(18:10):
I wrote years and years ago, identity may be the
most important economic decision people make, and it has to
do with how you see yourself, how you want to
project an identity, what group of people do you consider
yourself part of? And you make all sorts of economic
decisions based on not rational analysis, but identity.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
If I had known this was part of economics when
I was in college, I could have easily made it
my life. I only took microeconomics, which I hated. I mean,
it's obviously got its value supply to my own, etc.
But if I'd have known all this other stuff that
I find so fascinating about economics was part of it,
I would have man, I would have eaten that up.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, what would you call it?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Psychoeconomics, socioeconomics or something like that. But they gave the
example of an academic economist, not coincidentally, that's who we're
talking about. That would be a social category, and that's
the way they would see themselves or part of that
group whatever. So they probably own a practical car and
wear comfortable shoes, and if they showed up in a
portion nine to eleven or a pair of five hundred
(19:15):
dollars loafers, they would all not only feel like they
were putting on airs, but they'd probably be mocked and
scorned to buy colleagues. In traditional economics models, it's hard
to rationalize why anyone would care so much about what
shoes I walk in wearing right, or what car I drive,
But that really affects decisions they go into.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Like individual when you.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Go to buy a pair of shoes or a car,
practically anything, certainly anything anybody's going to observe. The options
are not wide open for most people. They're limited to
your identity. It has to shot into that world of
your identity, which is interesting. We don't see ourselves out way.
(20:03):
I think we most people like to see themselves as No,
I could wear any kind of footwear.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
It's completely up to me. I'm my own person.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
But no, it fits into a view you heavy of yourself,
where you want other people to have of you, or
you think you had whatever.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
And then they talk about individual gains from both material
outcomes and actions that conform to their identities.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Blah blah blah, and labor markets.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Workers are motivated by wages, of course, but also by
how well their job aligns with their identities. They give
the example of a corporate job might offer financial stability,
but if it conflicts with an individual's identity is an
I'm environmentalist, for instance, that's going to lead to satisfaction
and underperformance in this vein, trying to train coal miners
(20:45):
to be nurses may be feudal and Jack, I love.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
The idea you gave when we were talking about this.
If you remember I.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Don't you said trying to train farmers because the family
farmers disappearing to be coders, have them sit in a
cubicle ten hours a data code, they would hang themselves.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, and you hear politicians through that around all the time,
like you can just retrain people that have been a
certain sort of person to be a completely different sort
of person. And as the point of what you're saying is,
it's not just about the money.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
So there's other research by a couple of guys you've
never heard of, to provide a granular look into the
mechanics of this phenomenon. There's studies based on lab experiments
that prime subjects to see different parts of their identities
is especially salient. Demonstrate that people may out for lower
paying jobs if it means greater congruence or you know,
fitting in with their social group, or might choose consumer
(21:39):
goods that signal affiliation to a particular identity despite higher
costs and no higher quality.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
We see that all the time in fashion Police.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
So they go into that at some length, and it's
a very very interesting We'll post link at Armstrong and
Getty dot com under hot links.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
But then let's see.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
They go more deeply into that diverges from traditional notions
of comparative advantage typically applied to countries or firms. I
met with several well known psychologists, writs this journalist. Across
the country, many assume that heredity largely dictated the identities
to which people gravitated. We investigated the academic paths chosen
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by students in racially and socioeconomically diverse schools. We found
that students often align their academic efforts with what they
perceive to be their comparative advantages. Interesting, and this is
something that we and others have observed through the years,
and people are extremely uncomfortable talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
But we all ought to.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Grow up and just say what's true and whether it
makes us feel comfortable or not. If you want to
actually solve problems, you better reckon with reality anyway. A
student who sees his strength in social leadership rather than
academic achievement might choose to invest more in social endeavors.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
This decision is based both on.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Where he or she excels and where he perceives the
greatest return for his efforts in both self fulfillment and importantly,
social recognition. Booty or booty Yeah, in other research, who
is I I haven't mentioned the name of the person
writing this, Roland Fryar, who's an economist and a researcher anyway,
or were we in other research? I found that black
(23:23):
and Hispanic students with high grade point averages tended to
be less popular, which was not true for white students.
This was in line with previous works suggesting that high
achieving black students were sometimes mocked for quote acting white.
By incorporating this kind of peer pressure, the framework we've
been talking about also illuminates how gender norms can influence
(23:46):
field of study choices. Women might avoid STEM fields not
because a lack of ability or interest, but due to
societal norms dictating what is considered appropriate for their sex.
They found a single business school.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yes, that is really interesting.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
That may have changed since I was in school, or
maybe it depends on the neighborhood you're living, like. I
live in a college town, So it would make sense
that popularity and high school achievement might go together, but
it didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
At my school.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
The most popular people were absolutely not the people with
the highest grade point averages, and would have been kind
of unimaginable that it would.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Be interesting interesting, and here as white as they come.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, and we're all white. One moment, I'm sorry. One
more example, and then I want to make a point
kind of disputing a little of this, but let's see this.
Guy and his co authors have found that single female
business school students quote reported lower desired salaries and willingness
to travel and work long hours on a real stakes
(24:50):
placement questionnaire when they expected their classmates to see their preference,
a phenomenon known as acting.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Wife as opposed to acting white.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
That is interesting, so and I misunderstood when I read
it the first time. So if you ask single female
business school students, what's your desired salary? What's your willingness
to travel and work long hours? They will answer differently
if they expect their peers to see their answers.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Wow, I'm not sure I understand that.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yeah, I'm one thing, And it's funny. Tim Sanderfer and I.
One of the few like significant difficult disagreements we've ever
had is when we were doing a book club thingy
that some of you may remember, when we were talking
about Sebastian Junger's book Tribe, and I really liked it
and thought it was really interesting thought provoking, and Tim
(25:47):
didn't like it at all. He thought it was collectivist claptrap.
I am paraphrasing bluntly and skilllessly. I'm sure Tim expressed
his opinion much more eloquently. But the thing, and I
think I may have said it to Tim, is that
what Tim has to remember and what we have to remember,
is that Tim is like at the the outer one
(26:09):
percent of iconoclastic individualists the way he sees the world,
and you and I are way out on that scale too,
I think. And there are some very lovely people, very
nice people who are like way past the midway point,
(26:31):
and they're like good twenty five percent toward They find
it really rewarding to be part of what other people
are doing and go along with the crowd and to conform.
They get a feeling of belonging from that that I
think most real individualists.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Don't experience in the same way.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Right, And so you've got to remember when you're thinking
about society on a whole, not everybody sees the.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
World like I do.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Hyeah, especially if for talking economics like you said earlier, Yeah,
you just do need to observe or take in what
is whether it makes sense to you or not.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And one of the great revolutions of revelations, not revolutions,
well there's a revolution, it was a revelation revolution is
that the Founding Fathers designed the Constitution to be ironclad
against any takeover by monarchs or dictators or even populous.
Not because most humans crave liberty, but because most humans don't.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
That was the danger. And when I realized that, I thought, oh, oh, yes.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It works both ways though that whole want to be
part of the crowd, It depends on your crowd. And
that gets to the we were talking about the whole
keeping it real thing earlier. If your crowd is it's
not cool to really achieve, it's not a good way
to keep it real. If if your crowd is, you know,
achieving is the thing to be cool, then but keeping
it real's fine.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yeah, something to be said for looking at the crowd
around you and assessing whether they are helping your life
or hurting it.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
The desire for acceptance, so, I mean, it's right there
in Maslow's hierarchy of needs. It's a big one belonging
maslowt to shut up. I don't care what he thinks.
Shut up, Maslow, get down off your Pyramid.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
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Yeah, or Jack your Joe podcasts and our hot links
The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Let's be clear what's happening in this country. It's Nazism.
Republicans are Nazis.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
You cannot separate yourselves from the bad white people.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Growing up in the nineties, I never thought much about race.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Sure you noticed, but never really seemed to matter that much,
at least not to me, being a.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
White, straight, cisgender man. It's the top of the piles.
I'm on the top of the bile. That's me. Am
I Racist? I would really appreciate it if you left.
I'm trying to learn the long this Jurney, Do you
please leave?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
That's for Am I Racist? Which I'm going to on
Saturday and I look forward to it.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Yeah, before we talk about that, just real quickly, because
I'll forget again. I watched the brand new Netflix Apollo
thirteen documentary last night. It was outstanding, absolutely great, compelling,
a lot of NASA footage from the archives that hadn't
been seen.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I read that it was even more dramatic than the movie, which,
of course, you know, is scripted in such a way
to make it more dramatic to make it dramatic, which
sounds amazing.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I was on the edge of my seat. Judy had
a commitment. She got home, like with ten minutes left,
and I said.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
All right, I gotta finish this. I gotta finish this.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I got it and during without giving too much away,
of course, it's a historical event. People know what happened,
but just the structure of the thing. But during the
moments at the very end, when it wasn't clear the
astronauts were alive, I said to Judy, sitting next to
me on the couch, I said, I.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Know how this ends, and this is killing.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
It's just unbelievably beautifully done.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
My only it's not a criticism.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
It's the only way it pales in comparison to the
brilliant movie with Tom Hanks, The Delicious, Kevin Bacon and
Gary Sinez.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Is that.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
The documentary under dramatized the incredible creativity it took to
redesign systems to do something completely different that the movie
did brilliantly. As the folks back on Earth were trying
to figure out how do we have them build a
filter to get all the carbon dioxide out of the capsule,
(30:44):
and they literally took a tube from this, a box
from that, some cloth from that, and said, all right,
plug this in. And they conducted these experiments, created this
technology out of nothing in the space of like thirty
six hours, working frantically around the clock. So I would suggest,
(31:05):
you know, watch the movie and the document and then
a nonspiring story.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
And then Tom Hanks dies of aids or is that
a different movie.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Different movie, another fine film, though he and Jenny get together.
I will also make this point if you're done with
your inanities. And this is kind of a leading It
was interesting that mission control, the virtually everyone involved was
(31:32):
a white man.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Which is why against the I won't recognize the moon landing,
and and we as a society of you know, I
think you come a long way in involving the best
and brightest, no matter what they look like.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
On the other hand, it was also undeniable that all
of those white fellas were brilliant, hardworking, creative, responsible, compassionate.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
And virtually everything you could want from.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
A human being. So hey, here's an idea. Let's not
demonize people because of the color of their skin. We
used to agree on that, which brings us to Matt
Walsh's hilarious and uncomfortable new m I Racist, which is
very enjoyable. It's I think the number four movie around
the country or sometimes is it really a top five
(32:28):
top five box office? No kidding yet got no reviews
zero And that was actually the topic of Matt's recent
Twitter thread. Many of you have asked how it's possible
that our new film, am I Racist hasn't been reviewed
by a single mainstream critic, even with a ninety nine
percent audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Do you do something similar to the other direction like
Bowling from Columbine that's from the Left and the Michael
Moore any of the Michael Moore movies. Not only does
it get endless reviews, it wins Oscars.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Yeah, yep, top five box office debut. Beginning in August,
we reached out to dozens of mainstream out let's offering
an early screener of the film. These outlets included Time, AP, Indie, Wier, Variety, THHR,
Times New Yorker, and A bunch more all the usual
suspect You know what I'm going to name some of
the usual suspects. Oh, that's that's the list. Okay, blah
(33:22):
blah blah.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
We did not a single one responded and said they
would review the movie.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
We did, however, that yeah, follow it up to virtual silence,
So they bugged him again and said, hey, did you
get our package and everything? And virtual silence. We did, however,
receive a flurry of unprofessional emails from independent critics who
were enraged we'd even.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Ask them to review the film.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
One of them the wrote that he wouldn't waste any
professional time on a movie opening in over fifteen hundred
theaters because I was involved. R it's Matt Walsh. Let's see,
here's the note. Wahaha absolutely not hardest decline. I will
not waste a second of my life on Matt Walsh.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Another critics said you'd have to strap me to a
chair like Malcolm McDowell. Let's say clockwork orange reference to
get me to watch this thing. Another wrote, you take
me off this list. After it was clear that am
I Racist was a hit, Variety attempted to cover for
this oversight with a claim that Daily Wire did not
screen the movie for critics. We've asked them to correct this,
(34:21):
but they have not. They still haven't posted a review,
but I hope they will a few other mainstream outlets
have since requested screeners but have yet to publish a review.
One major mainstream outlet even acknowledged we had attempted to
get them at advanced screener, but said the film had
slipped through the cracks. This isn't a mistake. You'd be
hard pressed to find another film that opened in fifteen
(34:41):
more than fifteen hundred theaters that was completely snubbed by
mainstream critics.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
If Am I Racist were terrible.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
These outlets could have reviewed it and trashed it, But
the reality is they're afraid of it. Am I Racist
been so successful because we specifically because we didn't churn
out another ste predictable Hollywood style film blah blah, blah blah,
one last thing. Rolling Stone was one of the first
outlets to request the screener for the review after the
(35:09):
movie was announced back in July. They've yet to post
a review, which is a bummer because I was looking
forward to theirs. Most of all, I've said many times,
there's a huge growing awareness of how the woke thing
and critical race theory and radical gender theory and queer theory,
the transgender thing it's all neo Marxism with different guys
(35:30):
as different faces, but it's all intent on tearing down
Western civilization and putting those people in charge. We are
at the end of the beginning, not the beginning of
the end. Here is a really well done, controversial, but
extremely relevant movie that they're so.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Afraid of they won't even review.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
It to trash it. They pretend it doesn't exist. We've
barely begun the fight.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
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