January 13, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- Zuckerberg talks censorship
- Double checking your health diagnosis & the diary of a North Korean soldier in Russia
- Meteorologist Rick Dickert talks to A&G
- Pete Hegseth hearing & Jack takes his coat off like a chick
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty. Hi, y'all doing.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
So.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We're about to talk a little bit about misinformation disinformation.
Mark Zuckerberg was on Joe Rogan's Much Listen To podcast
on Friday, said some things that should be giant news stories,
but partially not because of the fires eating up a
lot of time and space and newspapers and broadcast TV
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and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
But yeah, I think it's more about the media's hesitation
to admit what is plainly true about censorship and the
Biden administration in COVID.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
But for instance, on misinformation disinformation, this is a breaking
story in the La Times right now. Investigators looking into
electric towers possible eating fire origin site. That's the big
fire in the Pasadena Altadeene area. Then you got the
other fire, the bigger fire the Palisades area. They think
the last story I read about it, and I think
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it was also in the La Times some fireworks from
New Year's Eve had been smoldering and started that whole thing.
There was an illegal arrested. Well, a bunch of people
detained an illegal they saw who had a fire torch
in his hand, like the way you light fires. But
there's nobody's nailed down that he started any fires. I'm
seeing lots of social media just blanket statements of illegals
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are going around starting fires in La. Well, there's no
evidence that that any of these fires were started by
illegal I'd be more than happy to jump on that
story if it's nailed down, trust me, I'd love that story.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But there's no evidence that that's actually happening.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
But if you're on social media for a big crowd,
it's as if it's completely true and nailed That's the
way information works.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That's the way information works in the modern era.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
For I know that for a lot of people on Twitter,
for instance, that story's done for the rest of their lives.
Illegals started these fires, even though that's not what happened,
at least not yet. So that's that's a difficult situation.
Even if you're trying to do your best in social
media and you know monitor what's true and what's not.
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You go further the other direction, which Zuckerberg's about to
talk about with Joe Rogan on Friday, where you're putting
out things you know to be true and the government's
screaming at you and doesn't want you to do that.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But let's let's start at the beginning here.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Here's Mark Zuckerberg, guy runs Facebook on Joe Rogan on Friday.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
But it was really in the last ten years that
people started pushing for like ideological base censorship. And I
think it was two main events that really triggered this.
Sixteen There was the election of President Trump, also coincided
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with basically Brexit in the EU and sort of the
fragmentation of the EU. And then you know, in twenty
twenty there was COVID, And I think that those were
basically these two events were for the first time, we
just placed, we just faced this massive, massive institutional pressure
to basically start censoring content on ideological grounds.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Institutional pressure to censor content. Well, where was that coming
from and in what way? He talks more about it here.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
It was during the Biden administration when they were trying
to roll out the vaccine program. And I'm generally like
pretty pro rolling out vaccines. I think on balance the
vaccines are more positive than negative. But I think that
while they're trying to push that program, they also tried
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censor anyone who is basically arguing against it, and they
pushed us super hard to take down things that were
honestly were true, right, I mean, they basically pushed us
and said, you know, anything that says that vaccines might
have side effects you basically need to take down. And
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I was just like, well, we're not going to do that, Like,
we're clearly not going to do that. I mean, that
is kind of inarguably.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
We don't have the audio of this, but he says
Biden administration officials used to call and scream at us,
demanding that we remove COVID related content, even things that
were facts or memes in humor. When we refused, we
found ourselves under investigation by several agencies.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Well, right, And I thought it was ironically kind of
ridiculously charming that he said we faced incredible institutional pressure.
The institution in question is not like the National Association
of orthod Donnists. It's the executive branch of the federal
government was calling him in, screaming at him and telling
him what to print and what not to print. It
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sounds like censorship to me.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Well especially, I mean when there is a clear penalty there.
When we refused, we found ourselves under investigation by several agencies.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Well right, yeah, As I said at the time when
I was howling about this, whether it's investigations or regulations
or lawsuits or just impediments, I mean, if a federal
government decides to f with you, pardon me, f with you,
they will they will make it impossible to do business
through the tax code. Witness the conservative organizations during the
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Tea Party era or whatever. The Pea Party era is
a completely different era. I apologize I'm as spoke, but yeah,
it's and I was so bitterly disappointed when the Supreme Court,
in I think it was Murthy versus Missouri, essentially struck
down a lawsuit about this. Having gone back to refresh
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my memory about it, it's the sort of you didn't
have standing to sue, assuming that past censorship would equal
future censorship. So they weren't asking the Supreme Court. Hey,
was that awful or not? It was at about a
particular injunction. So I would love to have the Supreme
Court hand down in whatever former, whatever pretext, the word
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that no, this sort of censorship by proxy or through
the threat of action is a violation of.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
The First Amendment.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, rockstar lawyer Randy Barnett, who's got a great book
out right now, tweeted over the weekend the Biden administration
pressure on Facebook should be big news and a huge scandal,
big enough for Scotus to hear about it.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
But will it. He thinks it should be a Supreme
Court case like you're just talking about. I think so too.
I mean, this is a big deal. The fact that it.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Landed on Friday with very little coverage, again partially because
of the fire obscuring everything like that is well, and
I don't know, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I think the fire is a pilot light compared to
the utter you know, discussed that most of the media
has with the idea of saying, you know what, all
that stuff that we were one hundred percent for suppressing,
like the the you know, the scientists who are advocating
for the Great Barrington Declaration, for instance, who are pointing out, yeah,
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there are side effects, who are pointing out, no, the
vaccine does not prevent transmission, who are pointing out we
should open the schools who were saying that young healthy
people had no need. Anybody who had natural immunity had
no need to take the jab. All of those things
are now unquestionably and unquestioned fact. But the media was
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complicit in silencing those people. So no, they're not going
to turn around and say, gee, that censorship was awful.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Without the fire, I think Fox would have made this
a very big story over the weekend. But you're right,
I don't think Meta Kress faced the Nation would have
touched it at all, because if they can post the
New York Times, maybe they would have been completely implicated
in this sort of thing. One more clip from Rogan.
I thought was interesting. You were just lying to us
about this, that and the other thing, and now I'm
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supposed to believe you're one of the good guys, you're
one of the straight shooters. Now, yeah, I don't know
where that goes from there.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I tell you what, with all due respect to our
need to not prop up people we compete with, allegedly,
that's a great question by Rogan, That's an incredibly uncomfortable question.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, Well that's been the pushback since last week when
Zuckerberg first came out and all of a sudden, as
a Bill Wright's first Amendment, guy, is okay, which one's.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
The real you?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Or do you just yeah and fair enough? Although you know,
my goal in this discussion is not whether I should
like more Exegerber sure, not that sup has sailed. It's
about the First Amendment in government censorship.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's horrifying that that could happen though at that level
on things that were really important. Yes, are there side
effects on the vaccine the government is forcing you to
get or you.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Lose your job, not allowed to say, what are you kidding? Mind?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
That included a hell of a lot of firefighters and
soldiers and sailors and marines. So you young, healthy, primarily
men who would not get the JAB, many of whom
already had natural immunity.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So you're employed by the government at some level, and
the government's not allowing discussion on whether or not the
vaccine has side effects, but you're being forced to take
it to keep your job.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
That's exactly the sort of thing you don't.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Want to in a free society, I would agree, And
the technicalities of who can sue and who has standing
and blah blah blah gets you know.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I'll let the lawyers argue about that. But yeah, I
agree with you completely.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
The Supreme Court has got to issue some sort of
edict about this censorship by proxy.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Zuckerberg did have the option, didn't he though, of going
full profile and courage and with his I mean, especially
then Facebook was bigger then than it is now in
terms of people paying attention to it. If he had
to come out and said, the Biden administration is really
pressuring us to take down things that are true or
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at least possibly true.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
God doubt of it, a huge story. Yep, absolutely, I
wish he had.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I mean, that could have been one of those on
a Sunday morning where they do the full five, where
he goes on like face the nation, meet the press,
by all the shows, and talks about how the Bedministry
people are screaming me on the phone and threaten me,
threatening me with investigations if I take down things that
are true.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh my god, what a story that would have been.
But he chose not to do that.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
He either lacked of moral courage or he made the
decision as a businessman, what will be best for my company,
and you've given him he decided it just shutting up
would be the best.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I think he's probably a weasel, but I am giving
him a little benefit of the doubt, like in the
midst of the pandemic, where things were crazy there for.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
A while, and uh, and in Silicon Valley there was
such uniformity of progressive thought. I mean, you got people
there who are still friggin masked. Pardon me, I get
fired up over this stuff. We have a lot of
new listeners. Generally, I can contain my mild obscenity is
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a little better than I am. But this stuff really really.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Fires it is it dry January wearing on you?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I'm starting to get a little twitchy. Yes, always been disappointing,
and we've talked about this so many times. I don't
feel nearly as good as i'd anticipated, having given up
the booze.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Kind of hoping it feel better. So this is just
what I feel like. Hum. I'm still a sleepy half
wit for like the first hour and a half of
the day, and it's disappointing.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I have a whole bunch of interesting nuggets that I
captured over the weekend that are not the news of
the day, but are all interesting, So I'm hoping to
get to those this hour at some point. Excellent for instance,
how big a deal is AI? Uh, something China's doing
that's horrible. North Korean soldiers are dying like crazy in Ukraine.
And something that Elon Musk says that if you're not
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doing this with your doctor recommendations, you're really making a
mistake that I thought I'm going to employee in my life.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
A bunch of stuff on the way. Stay here, Satty.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Austin's husband, Emmanuel, an orthopedic surgeon, has been named in
a New York reco case involving federal insurance fraud. So here,
he's a great surgeon. Even did Joy Behar's hoof replacement?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Oh that's cold? What as that's shallice? What hoof for replacement?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Do I take off my coat like a girl? We'll
discuss this later. It became a topic at dinner last night. Wow, Wow,
a couple of things to discuss. Just notes I took
over the weekend. Somebody tweeted this out and Elon Musk tweeted,
retweeted it true. If you're not double checking your doctor's
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diagnostics with an LM, that's a language learning model AI chatbot.
If you're not double checking your doctor's diagnostics with an LM,
you're being negligent in your health. I've never considered doing that,
but maybe we all should in the future.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Exactly take my doctor's diagnosis and ask social media what
they think.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I'd exactly go on Twitter, go on Reddit. Does this
look like something to you? And then you show them
a picture of a blotchy thing on your skin.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
This is a joke.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
It was a girl woman, sorry, woman talking to a mechanic.
My car's making a terrible noise. The mechanic says, try
taking the Taylor Swift seat out.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I get it. I thought that was shot at thought
that was mistress of note right.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Uh. Diary of a dead North Korean soldier reveals grizzly
battlefield tactics.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Oh yeah, whoa, I got into that a little bit.
That was heavy.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
The troops are exposed, green, loyal, and dying by the
thousands in frontline combat against Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I didn't realize North Korean soldiers were dying by the thousands. Yeah,
and you just you don't even try to protect your
own life.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
You just march into the machine gun fire because there's
a chance your family will have a slightly better life
back in North Korea.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
If you're a quote unquote hero.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
God, dang it.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
That is brutal.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I was listened to a podcast with David Petres remember him.
He was the commander in Iraq and Afghanistan and CIA
director and probably should be in the government at some
level because he's brilliant. But he had an affair with
a woman and that kind of ruin is great.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
He said. His numbers were the.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Russians have lost five hundred thousand soldiers from the battlefield
that can't return dead or wounded, to the point that
they can't return half a million.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
That's a stunning number.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And that is the history of Russia, just feeding people
into the meat grinder until the other side wears down
and it looks like it's going to work again.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Except their birth rates are a tiny fraction of what
they were fifty one hundred years ago.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Now true ad Speaking of bad countries, China is removing
Tibetan children from their families and placing them in schools
where they face political indoctrination. So they're literally taking children
out of homes in Tibet, taking them to China and
re educating them to believe in the Communist Chinese Party.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That is horrific.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
That is happening right now. College students are not protesting
on campuses about that. In America, government schools are teaching
your children that they can change what sex they are.
On a whim Bill Maher said, rumors he's retiring are
not true. I hadn't heard those rumors. He is gonna
retire from stand up comedy as he's a very old man.
But he said they will have to drag him off
the set of Real Time. He will continue to do that.
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I'm glad because it's a good show and at least
lately I generally agree with him. Came across this Ian
Bremer retweeted it the percentage of companies worldwide who plan
to reduce workforce in the next couple of years because
of AI. Forty one percent of companies say they're going
to reduce their working force in the next couple of
years because of AI.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I'm not very bright.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And I tweeted that out and somebody said, yeah, that
could be a receptionist, and they would say, yes, which
is true.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Well, if I'm feeding my family as a receptionist, I'm concerned.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
True, But if it's on an employee here or there,
it's not quite as devastating as the number indicated, right.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
All right, I guess they didn't indicate the size of
the workforce ruction and they had in mind. So we're
going to touch a bit more on the utterly unthinkably
devastating wildfires and stuff than California. Next to chat with
legendary meteorologist from La Rick Dickert, and then on to
more of the news of the day.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
If you can't stick around, grab the podcast. Armstrong and
Getty on the band. And it was like a hurricane.
This fire no water, but like eighty miles an hour plus.
It feltser real. There's a fire like racing down the
hill at that point. Yeah, well that's what's scary about this.
It just was shooting like a blow torch, Like a
blow torch. It was literally just shooting off of the mountain.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Man, I just watched a video I hadn't seen this
doorbell camera captures early moments of the eating fire. That's
the one up by Altadena and Pasadena and these people.
She was coming home from work and she saw a
little orange glow off in the distance underneath the power lines.
That's why they're now reporting. The La Times is reporting
that they they get started under the power lines. But
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it's got the minute by minute on here of how
fast it went from tiny little fire to a pretty
big fire to holy crap, and they loaded up their
car and got out of there. It's just crazy how
fast that happened. And also I found the three letter
warning for today comes up with this stuff. They declared
it a PDS for today particularly dangerous situation. Okay, that's
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like the official and I guess when you declare something
a PDS, then.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
All kinds of things happen. Do we need that, I
don't know. It's what I wonder.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
So I would say it's a pleasure to talk to
our next guest, and it is in a way, but
it's a terrible, a terrible topic. Rick Dickard is a
legend of LA Media Fox eleven Morning News, among other
credits for years, certified broadcast meteorologist, heard many, many, many
many times on our beloved affiliate seven ninety KABC, and
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he joins us, Now, Rick, how are.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
You, sir?
Speaker 8 (18:51):
I'm well, given what's happening here, Thank you for having me,
Jack Joe. And you mentioned the PDS, and that is
an official term used by the National Weather Service to
express the heightened risk of severe weather, and here it's
a wildfire or the potential of more wildfires that they
issue those PDS's for severe weather hurricane tornadoes. So this
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is an extreme situation. And unfortunately we're looking at another
powerful wind event, not quite what we saw last Tuesday,
but close to it in terms of wind velocities that
are anticipated over the next forty eight hours. Wow.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
And I want to get to that in just a second,
But first, can you describe to folks what the weather
was like last week when the fires started? Giving your
perspective of reporting on this sort of thing for years
and years.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
And I worked in the broadcast media here in southern
California for thirty plus years, twenty of which I spent
up in an airborne capacity in a helicopter covering these events,
these wind driven events. This is the worst I have
ever seen, and I was on the ground for this one.
And essentially what happened dynamically in the atmosphere, Things came
together to produce these hurricane force wind gusts in those
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areas that we call the urban wildland interface here in
southern California, two of which above Pacific Palis States above
that iconic shoreline if you're on the East coast, you've
seen it in pictures and movies of Malibu. And then
the Eaten fire above just to the north and northeast
of the iconic Rose Bowl and Colorado Boulevard where you
see the Rose Parade every year, those two areas, there
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was some sort of trigger in the wild land just
above those communities. Those two sparks happened, and then dynamically, metrologically,
we have this powerful wind event that allowed that fire
to spread. You heard what people in those areas said,
like a blow tours. It was a firestorm, eighty mine
hour wind gusts burning that chaparral, that forest land, those
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dry hinder dry blasdshed We had months of no precipitation
essentially here in southern California. That Breashcot fire, the winds ignited,
and that fire spread directly down into those communities. They
Eaten fire Pasadena over towards Alcadina, Sierra Madre, and then
the Palisades fire encompassing the Pacific Palisa there even part
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of Santa Monica, and then up the coast towards Malabus.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, I thought I knew what these videos would be
like when I started watching them. But some of the
videos they had in sixty minutes last night and somebody
saw this morning on my phone. It was so windy,
it was like it was like CGI special effects, because
I'd never see anything like that anywhere.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
No wonder it's been so difficult to fight, and it
was like a machine gun of embers being shot over
tremendous distances.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Miles that those embers that Ember cast and the Ember intrusion,
as we call it, it gets caught up in the
eaves of homes two miles away from the fire zone
because it was so dry out there, it ignited homes
well away from that major fire zone. And that's exactly
what happened for a good twelve to twenty four hour
period after the two fires started. The Palisades Fire started
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at ten thirty am Pacific Standard time on Tuesday. The
Eton Fire above the Rose Bowl north and east of
the Rose Bowl in the Angels National Fire that started
shortly after six pm on the same day. Worst case
scenario with the weather in play and where those two
fires ignited, allowing those fires fanned by those dusty, powerful
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hurricane force windows out of the north and northeast towards
the south and southwest into those communities of.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Pacific Palace states of Alcadina and Sierra Madre, including bizarre
fire behaviors racing downhill driven by the wind, which is
something normally that doesn't happen.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Rick Dickert a longtime meteorologist reporter in LA Online. Rick
talk to us about what's expected this week weatherwise.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
Yeah, again, we said it that PDS issued by the
National Weather Service heightened fire weather encompassing parts of southern California,
Ventura County, the Ranch Area, Semi Valley, San Fernando, the
West Santa Monica Mountains. That's very close to the Palisades
fire from Pepperdine University over towards point we go. Wind
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guts again, not as strong as what we saw last Tuesday,
but close to it. We're talking about wind guts of
forty five to seventy miles per a sustained wind of
thirty nine miles an hour that's tropical storm force, a
sustained wind of seventy four miles an hour that is
a Category one hurricane. Those wind guts, in addition to
the relative humidity values of eight to fifteen percent that's
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what's going to produce the red flag conditions. When a
red flag warning is issued for southern California, if you're
watching and listening from other parts of the country, that
means explosive fire growth potential, just like what we saw
last Tuesday into Wednesday, that blow towards effect. You get
that ignition and.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Then the fire spreads.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
And I do want to mention that Jack and Jodd
of fire. These fires aren't started by the weather. They're
driven by the weather. There's some sort of ignition. It
could be something in terms of infrastructure. Unfortunately, there's arson.
People let start these fires accidentally. The trigger occurs, the
atmosphere conditions are in play, and that's what allows these
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fires to spread so rapidly and create the devastation that
we've seen.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I'm really glad we had you on. What a great report.
Nice job, Yeah, terrific, Rick, We're big fans.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
I'm sorry it's under this circumstance that we talk to
you about fabulous jab but I hope we can stay
in touch.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
Absolutely, stay safe out everybody. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's interesting he brings that up about the Obviously the
weather conditions don't start the fire, they spread the fire.
David Spade, the actor comedian, is offering five thousand dollars
for anybody with information on the arsonists to start the fire.
So clearly he's under the impression that some human beings
started this on purpose. Is I've often wondered this with
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with with our you know, you start a you go
into a building and start that on fire, that's a
you know, specific thing. But the starting a fire in
an area that it catches on and then burns and
and burns and burns, you gotta be prepared for that,
whether it's an arsonist, a lightning strike, an electric breakdown,
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you gotta have some way to keep that from getting
so out of control, don't you know the uh forest
management We're having enough water in your fire hydrants to
fight it or whatever, because there's always gonna be something
a lot more sparked it or I don't think there
is anything you can do to be ready for.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
That weather after that long a drought and getting sparked.
You have to work like a maniac to make sure
that in those conditions nothing gets sparked and there's super
quick response if it does. But with one hundred malpar
gusts lots and lots of seventy five mile prou gusts,
you're just screwed. To summarize, although, and we've made this
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point a couple of times, and it's worth making again
because a particular aspect of this cannot be blamed on
bad govern is no reason to not talk about the awful,
awful governance of California.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Slash LA that was a contributor.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Maybe it doesn't explain it, but it should still be
identified and rooted out.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I wish I could remember where I heard some fire
chiefs saying we could have had every fire truck in
America here last Thursday night and it wouldn't have made
any difference when it was gusting to one hundred miles
an hour, which makes sense.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Well, yeah, the one gent I heard, I think it
was on sixty minutes point doubt that if they have
a fully involved structure, they want three fire trucks there typically,
and that there were as of when they interviewed him,
something like twelve thousand structures had burned.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
He said, do the math. There aren't that many fire trucks.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I was trying to find the quote that man Gavin
got beat up for on Friday it was similar to
what you're talking about. See if I can find it
real quick.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Oh, Gavin Newsom he was.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
He did an interview on a liberal outlet, which also
got him some pushback, like he didn't have the guts
to go on where he was going to be challenged
at all. He said, let's stop with the finger pointing.
I'm not interested in who's to blame. Oh really, that's
interesting because a lot of people are interested in who's
to blame, Like a lot of.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
People with no homes are pretty interested in that. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1 (28:22):
So we can't play this enough today, speaking to Gavin Newsom,
the Governor of California, here's here's my tiny little seminar
I'm going to do for politicians.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
If you're ever asked the question does the buck stop
with you? Always say yes. There's no win in anything
other than yes, here you go. Does the buck stop
with you? I mean, you're governor of California, inviting it
will be the Mayor of California. We're all in this together.
We're all better off. We're all better off. We're all
better off, and we're working together to take care of people.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
What.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Wow, obviously, well we know where Kamala Harris's speech writers
went to work having been laid off.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Oh my god, that was a terrible job. I'm strong
and geddy. Thank you. We've got more on the way.
Stay with us. Do I take off my coat like
a girl? Apparently I do? I found out last night.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I'll explain that in a second, But first, I know
it's head shaking lye on, I know me neither did I. Well,
I'll tell you the story in a little bit. But
Pete hegzath. This is the week they start getting into
the confirmation hearings. I'll just tell you this reporting John
fun writing a National review. According to one senator, uh,
(29:36):
they might not have the votes to get him out
of committee, let alone get to the big floor vote thing. Now.
Mark Hauprin's writing in his newsletter today is he thinks
if Trump demands a floor vote, it will get out
of committee. But he said, don't be surprised if it
doesn't even get a floor vote, and there are at
least a dozen possible no Republican votes. He can only
(30:00):
lose three, is that correct Republican votes? And although Fetterman
seems to be a yes on all the Trump stuff,
so maybe you pick up one there. But there are
a dozen senators out there. Susan Collins, Lisa Markovsky are
hard nos. Mitch McConnell is a likely hard no, Jony
Ernst of Iowa, some others that are possible knows.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
So we'll see how this turns out.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah, I think Pete Headseth is a good man. I
think he has some good ideas. He unquestionably has some
baggage though things he said and advocated. And this is
not a recommendation or an endorsement or non endorsement of
the guy. But at some point Trump and company will say,
all right, how about we get a good man with
some good ideas who doesn't have all this baggage.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
It's just the way it works. So I got to
find the exact wording on this.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So I'm eating at Red Robin last night, Katie, because
you know, I like the classy diners Red Robin with
my son. He really likes the gluten freeburger. There get
the burger. I think they got the best fries anyway,
we're eating inks, that's not the point.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Of the conversation. I'm eating.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I take off my jacket and my son, Henry, thirteen
years old, said, you take off your jacket like a girl.
I thought that was hilarious because I don't even know
what that means. And I thought, just what a funny
thing to say, and I laughed.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I said, was I mean? He said, you do?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You take off your coat like a girl? So I
texted a friend of mine who I've known for years,
and I thought it was just going to be funny.
I said, I'm out to eat with Henry. He said,
I take off my jacket like a girl. And they
texted back, you are certainly particular and intentional, I said,
question mark when removing your jacket. I said, you've observed this,
They said, I have that I take off my jacket
(31:38):
like a girl a particular, intentional way. That is the
way a woman takes.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Off her coat.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
In all of our years working together, and what is
it now, thirty three or more, have.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
You ever noticed I take off my coat like a
girl in particular? No, okay, will you take off your
coat really.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Fast so we can get a demo because I'm I'm.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Trying to take a step back so we can see
over there is it? Okay, I gotta fix this because
I'm I'll be single the rest of my life if
I'm taking off there taking it off?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
What my son said, it's kind of hot, he said.
The way you roll your shoulders and stick your chest out,
it's like a girl.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I feel like it needs a sexy music bed.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Really, I wish you had a coat on, Katie. Maybe
you can show me how a man takes his coat
off as opposed to me, you can have a woman
demonstrate how to be a man for it, gender bending madness.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
This is highly embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I could not I'm wearing an armstrong and giddy hoodie
good Armstrong, a giddy dot com.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I cannot at this. But how does a guy take
off his coat?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
And how did I pick up the manu mannerisms of
a woman for taking off my jacket?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
The way I roll my shoulders and stick up my
chest is girl like.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
Well, I'm thinking about the way that my husband takes
his jacket off and he just kind of like throws
it over one shoulder and then kind of like just
shakes out of it. So I don't know there they're
see Michaelangelo.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Watching Michael take off.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Folks, Michael's jacket is on now it's all yeah, see
it's the wiry, casual, unassuming, just gets it done, not
a bunch of preening and posing like a friend.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Here.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
How many dance out of his jacket? You know, out
of my tack?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
How she said, how many dates have I lost in
my life where a woman's thinking, oh, ain't kind interested
in him?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
And you know, kind of like his blah blah blah.
And then I took off my coat and they're like, no,
FLA deal breaker is a deal breaker. I can't be
with a guy who takes off his coat like a girl. Lady, lady, lady,
your way out. I didn't even know there was such
thing as taking your coat off like a girl.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
And now with people who know me, I bring it
up and I say, oh, yeah, you've always done it
that way.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
What the incisive criticism of Henry well done son? Huh?
I gotta think about that long and hard. Where did
that come from? I don't no, but man up? Would you?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I got a practice Michael after the show, Can I
watch you take your coat off again? And I try
to nail down.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Hr the weirdest requests I've ever had. I clearly do
it the way I roll my shoulders. What the hell
you do? Yeah, that's what we've been asking some deal.
You learn something about yourself every day.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
We have a whole separate group text thread about how
you take your jacket off there.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Okay, don't ask me about my pants. Jack.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
So getting back to Pete, Hegsath's just briefly, and again
I'm not here to endorse him or to say he
shouldn't be sectaf or at least get a try. But
this is why good people don't get into politics. You've
heard all those allegations about womanizing or at one conference
fifteen years ago, he blah blah blah, drinking too much
and the rest of it. A lot of that is
(34:54):
coming from a former employee name of Cat Dougan, who
worked for or Concerned Veterans of America, where Pete was
the CEO.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I believe at the time she worked there for eight months.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
She received a poor performance review several months into her
job as she was serving as cva's North Carolina state director.
Shortly thereafter, she filed for short term disability, then long
term disability, and ultimately resigned her position and claimed disability.
The national field director at the time, Sean Pattison, told
(35:33):
the Washington Free Beacon that Miss Dugan quote consistently fell
short of performance expectations.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
She was a bad hire. She did not do a
good job.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
She only lasted a few months, then started suing everybody
and wanting disability and the rest of us.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
And now she is the.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Secret source, the anonymous source of all these allegations.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
About hexath Right, and all the people on Fox and
Friends say we worked with him every day for years
and years and years, and nobody's called us and asked
us a single question about this.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
There is a long line of people who worked with
him for years who say, this guy is one of
the most stand up people I've ever known periods.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
So I'll bet Pete Hegsaff doesn't take his coat off
like a girl.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
So.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We're about to talk a little bit about misinformation disinformation.
Mark Zuckerberg was on Joe Rogan's Much Listen To podcast
on Friday, said some things that should be giant news stories,
but partially not because of the fires eating up a
lot of time and space and newspapers and broadcast TV
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and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
But yeah, I think it's more about the media's hesitation
to admit what is plainly true about censorship and the
Biden administration in COVID.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
But for instance, on misinformation disinformation, this is a breaking
story in the La Times right now. Investigators looking into
electric towers possible eating fire origin site. That's the big
fire in the Pasadena Altadeene area. Then you got the
other fire, the bigger fire the Palisades area. They think
the last story I read about it, and I think
(01:15):
it was also in the La Times some fireworks from
New Year's Eve had been smoldering and started that whole thing.
There was an illegal arrested. Well, a bunch of people
detained an illegal they saw who had a fire torch
in his hand, like the way you light fires. But
there's nobody's nailed down that he started any fires. I'm
seeing lots of social media just blanket statements of illegals
(01:38):
are going around starting fires in La. Well, there's no
evidence that that any of these fires were started by
illegal I'd be more than happy to jump on that
story if it's nailed down, trust me, I'd love that story.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But there's no evidence that that's actually happening.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
But if you're on social media for a big crowd,
it's as if it's completely true and nailed That's the
way information works.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That's the way information works in the modern era.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
For I know that for a lot of people on Twitter,
for instance, that story's done for the rest of their lives.
Illegals started these fires, even though that's not what happened,
at least not yet. So that's that's a difficult situation.
Even if you're trying to do your best in social
media and you know monitor what's true and what's not.
(02:29):
You go further the other direction, which Zuckerberg's about to
talk about with Joe Rogan on Friday, where you're putting
out things you know to be true and the government's
screaming at you and doesn't want you to do that.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But let's let's start at the beginning here.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Here's Mark Zuckerberg, guy runs Facebook on Joe Rogan on Friday.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
But it was really in the last ten years that
people started pushing for like ideological base censorship. And I
think it was two main events that really triggered this.
Sixteen There was the election of President Trump, also coincided
(03:06):
with basically Brexit in the EU and sort of the
fragmentation of the EU. And then you know, in twenty
twenty there was COVID, And I think that those were
basically these two events were for the first time, we
just placed, we just faced this massive, massive institutional pressure
to basically start censoring content on ideological grounds.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Institutional pressure to censor content. Well, where was that coming
from and in what way? He talks more about it here.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
It was during the Biden administration when they were trying
to roll out the vaccine program. And I'm generally like
pretty pro rolling out vaccines. I think on balance the
vaccines are more positive than negative. But I think that
while they're trying to push that program, they also tried
(04:00):
censor anyone who is basically arguing against it, and they
pushed us super hard to take down things that were
honestly were true, right, I mean, they basically pushed us
and said, you know, anything that says that vaccines might
have side effects you basically need to take down. And
(04:22):
I was just like, well, we're not going to do that, Like,
we're clearly not going to do that. I mean, that
is kind of inarguably.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
We don't have the audio of this, but he says
Biden administration officials used to call and scream at us,
demanding that we remove COVID related content, even things that
were facts or memes in humor. When we refused, we
found ourselves under investigation by several agencies.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Well, right, And I thought it was ironically kind of
ridiculously charming that he said we faced incredible institutional pressure.
The institution in question is not like the National Association
of orthod Donnists. It's the executive branch of the federal
government was calling him in, screaming at him and telling
him what to print and what not to print. It
(05:08):
sounds like censorship to me.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Well especially, I mean when there is a clear penalty there.
When we refused, we found ourselves under investigation by several agencies.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Well right, yeah, As I said at the time when
I was howling about this, whether it's investigations or regulations
or lawsuits or just impediments, I mean, if a federal
government decides to f with you, pardon me, f with you,
they will they will make it impossible to do business
through the tax code. Witness the conservative organizations during the
(05:43):
Tea Party era or whatever. The Pea Party era is
a completely different era. I apologize I'm as spoke, but yeah,
it's and I was so bitterly disappointed when the Supreme Court,
in I think it was Murthy versus Missouri, essentially struck
down a lawsuit about this. Having gone back to refresh
(06:06):
my memory about it, it's the sort of you didn't
have standing to sue, assuming that past censorship would equal
future censorship. So they weren't asking the Supreme Court. Hey,
was that awful or not? It was at about a
particular injunction. So I would love to have the Supreme
Court hand down in whatever former, whatever pretext, the word
(06:29):
that no, this sort of censorship by proxy or through
the threat of action is a violation of.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
The First Amendment.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, rockstar lawyer Randy Barnett, who's got a great book
out right now, tweeted over the weekend the Biden administration
pressure on Facebook should be big news and a huge scandal,
big enough for Scotus to hear about it.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
But will it. He thinks it should be a Supreme
Court case like you're just talking about. I think so too.
I mean, this is a big deal. The fact that it.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Landed on Friday with very little coverage, again partially because
of the fire obscuring everything like that is well, and
I don't know, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I think the fire is a pilot light compared to
the utter you know, discussed that most of the media
has with the idea of saying, you know what, all
that stuff that we were one hundred percent for suppressing,
like the the you know, the scientists who are advocating
for the Great Barrington Declaration, for instance, who are pointing out, yeah,
(07:32):
there are side effects, who are pointing out, no, the
vaccine does not prevent transmission, who are pointing out we
should open the schools who were saying that young healthy
people had no need. Anybody who had natural immunity had
no need to take the jab. All of those things
are now unquestionably and unquestioned fact. But the media was
(07:53):
complicit in silencing those people. So no, they're not going
to turn around and say, gee, that censorship was awful.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Without the fire, I think Fox would have made this
a very big story over the weekend. But you're right,
I don't think Meta Kress faced the Nation would have
touched it at all, because if they can post the
New York Times, maybe they would have been completely implicated
in this sort of thing. One more clip from Rogan.
I thought was interesting. You were just lying to us
about this, that and the other thing, and now I'm
(08:19):
supposed to believe you're one of the good guys, you're
one of the straight shooters. Now, yeah, I don't know
where that goes from there.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I tell you what, with all due respect to our
need to not prop up people we compete with, allegedly,
that's a great question by Rogan, That's an incredibly uncomfortable question.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, Well that's been the pushback since last week when
Zuckerberg first came out and all of a sudden, as
a Bill Wright's first Amendment, guy, is okay, which one's.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
The real you?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Or do you just yeah and fair enough? Although you know,
my goal in this discussion is not whether I should
like more Exegerber sure, not that sup has sailed. It's
about the First Amendment in government censorship.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's horrifying that that could happen though at that level
on things that were really important. Yes, are there side
effects on the vaccine the government is forcing you to
get or you.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Lose your job, not allowed to say, what are you kidding? Mind?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
That included a hell of a lot of firefighters and
soldiers and sailors and marines. So you young, healthy, primarily
men who would not get the JAB, many of whom
already had natural immunity.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So you're employed by the government at some level, and
the government's not allowing discussion on whether or not the
vaccine has side effects, but you're being forced to take
it to keep your job.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
That's exactly the sort of thing you don't.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Want to in a free society, I would agree, And
the technicalities of who can sue and who has standing
and blah blah blah gets you know.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I'll let the lawyers argue about that. But yeah, I
agree with you completely.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
The Supreme Court has got to issue some sort of
edict about this censorship by proxy.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Zuckerberg did have the option, didn't he though, of going
full profile and courage and with his I mean, especially
then Facebook was bigger then than it is now in
terms of people paying attention to it. If he had
to come out and said, the Biden administration is really
pressuring us to take down things that are true or
(10:30):
at least possibly true.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
God doubt of it, a huge story. Yep, absolutely, I
wish he had.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I mean, that could have been one of those on
a Sunday morning where they do the full five, where
he goes on like face the nation, meet the press,
by all the shows, and talks about how the Bedministry
people are screaming me on the phone and threaten me,
threatening me with investigations if I take down things that
are true.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh my god, what a story that would have been.
But he chose not to do that.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
He either lacked of moral courage or he made the
decision as a businessman, what will be best for my company,
and you've given him he decided it just shutting up
would be the best.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I think he's probably a weasel, but I am giving
him a little benefit of the doubt, like in the
midst of the pandemic, where things were crazy there for.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
A while, and uh, and in Silicon Valley there was
such uniformity of progressive thought. I mean, you got people
there who are still friggin masked. Pardon me, I get
fired up over this stuff. We have a lot of
new listeners. Generally, I can contain my mild obscenity is
(11:33):
a little better than I am. But this stuff really really.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Fires it is it dry January wearing on you?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I'm starting to get a little twitchy. Yes, always been disappointing,
and we've talked about this so many times. I don't
feel nearly as good as i'd anticipated, having given up
the booze.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Kind of hoping it feel better. So this is just
what I feel like. Hum. I'm still a sleepy half
wit for like the first hour and a half of
the day, and it's disappointing.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I have a whole bunch of interesting nuggets that I
captured over the weekend that are not the news of
the day, but are all interesting, So I'm hoping to
get to those this hour at some point. Excellent for instance,
how big a deal is AI? Uh, something China's doing
that's horrible. North Korean soldiers are dying like crazy in Ukraine.
And something that Elon Musk says that if you're not
(12:23):
doing this with your doctor recommendations, you're really making a
mistake that I thought I'm going to employee in my life.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
A bunch of stuff on the way. Stay here, Satty.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Austin's husband, Emmanuel, an orthopedic surgeon, has been named in
a New York reco case involving federal insurance fraud. So here,
he's a great surgeon. Even did Joy Behar's hoof replacement?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Oh that's cold? What as that's shallice? What hoof for replacement?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Do I take off my coat like a girl? We'll
discuss this later. It became a topic at dinner last night. Wow, Wow,
a couple of things to discuss. Just notes I took
over the weekend. Somebody tweeted this out and Elon Musk tweeted,
retweeted it true. If you're not double checking your doctor's
(13:21):
diagnostics with an LM, that's a language learning model AI chatbot.
If you're not double checking your doctor's diagnostics with an LM,
you're being negligent in your health. I've never considered doing that,
but maybe we all should in the future.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Exactly take my doctor's diagnosis and ask social media what
they think.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I'd exactly go on Twitter, go on Reddit. Does this
look like something to you? And then you show them
a picture of a blotchy thing on your skin.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
This is a joke.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
It was a girl woman, sorry, woman talking to a mechanic.
My car's making a terrible noise. The mechanic says, try
taking the Taylor Swift seat out.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I get it. I thought that was shot at thought
that was mistress of note right.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Uh. Diary of a dead North Korean soldier reveals grizzly
battlefield tactics.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Oh yeah, whoa, I got into that a little bit.
That was heavy.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
The troops are exposed, green, loyal, and dying by the
thousands in frontline combat against Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I didn't realize North Korean soldiers were dying by the thousands. Yeah,
and you just you don't even try to protect your
own life.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
You just march into the machine gun fire because there's
a chance your family will have a slightly better life
back in North Korea.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
If you're a quote unquote hero.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
God, dang it.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
That is brutal.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I was listened to a podcast with David Petres remember him.
He was the commander in Iraq and Afghanistan and CIA
director and probably should be in the government at some
level because he's brilliant. But he had an affair with
a woman and that kind of ruin is great.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
He said. His numbers were the.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Russians have lost five hundred thousand soldiers from the battlefield
that can't return dead or wounded, to the point that
they can't return half a million.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
That's a stunning number.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And that is the history of Russia, just feeding people
into the meat grinder until the other side wears down
and it looks like it's going to work again.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Except their birth rates are a tiny fraction of what
they were fifty one hundred years ago.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Now true ad Speaking of bad countries, China is removing
Tibetan children from their families and placing them in schools
where they face political indoctrination. So they're literally taking children
out of homes in Tibet, taking them to China and
re educating them to believe in the Communist Chinese Party.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That is horrific.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
That is happening right now. College students are not protesting
on campuses about that. In America, government schools are teaching
your children that they can change what sex they are.
On a whim Bill Maher said, rumors he's retiring are
not true. I hadn't heard those rumors. He is gonna
retire from stand up comedy as he's a very old man.
But he said they will have to drag him off
the set of Real Time. He will continue to do that.
(16:11):
I'm glad because it's a good show and at least
lately I generally agree with him. Came across this Ian
Bremer retweeted it the percentage of companies worldwide who plan
to reduce workforce in the next couple of years because
of AI. Forty one percent of companies say they're going
to reduce their working force in the next couple of
years because of AI.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I'm not very bright.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And I tweeted that out and somebody said, yeah, that
could be a receptionist, and they would say, yes, which
is true.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Well, if I'm feeding my family as a receptionist, I'm concerned.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
True, But if it's on an employee here or there,
it's not quite as devastating as the number indicated, right.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
All right, I guess they didn't indicate the size of
the workforce ruction and they had in mind. So we're
going to touch a bit more on the utterly unthinkably
devastating wildfires and stuff than California. Next to chat with
legendary meteorologist from La Rick Dickert, and then on to
more of the news of the day.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
If you can't stick around, grab the podcast. Armstrong and
Getty on the band. And it was like a hurricane.
This fire no water, but like eighty miles an hour plus.
It feltser real. There's a fire like racing down the
hill at that point. Yeah, well that's what's scary about this.
It just was shooting like a blow torch, Like a
blow torch. It was literally just shooting off of the mountain.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Man, I just watched a video I hadn't seen this
doorbell camera captures early moments of the eating fire. That's
the one up by Altadena and Pasadena and these people.
She was coming home from work and she saw a
little orange glow off in the distance underneath the power lines.
That's why they're now reporting. The La Times is reporting
that they they get started under the power lines. But
(17:51):
it's got the minute by minute on here of how
fast it went from tiny little fire to a pretty
big fire to holy crap, and they loaded up their
car and got out of there. It's just crazy how
fast that happened. And also I found the three letter
warning for today comes up with this stuff. They declared
it a PDS for today particularly dangerous situation. Okay, that's
(18:18):
like the official and I guess when you declare something
a PDS, then.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
All kinds of things happen. Do we need that, I
don't know. It's what I wonder.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
So I would say it's a pleasure to talk to
our next guest, and it is in a way, but
it's a terrible, a terrible topic. Rick Dickard is a
legend of LA Media Fox eleven Morning News, among other
credits for years, certified broadcast meteorologist, heard many, many, many
many times on our beloved affiliate seven ninety KABC, and
(18:48):
he joins us, Now, Rick, how are.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
You, sir?
Speaker 8 (18:51):
I'm well, given what's happening here, Thank you for having me,
Jack Joe. And you mentioned the PDS, and that is
an official term used by the National Weather Service to
express the heightened risk of severe weather, and here it's
a wildfire or the potential of more wildfires that they
issue those PDS's for severe weather hurricane tornadoes. So this
(19:15):
is an extreme situation. And unfortunately we're looking at another
powerful wind event, not quite what we saw last Tuesday,
but close to it in terms of wind velocities that
are anticipated over the next forty eight hours. Wow.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
And I want to get to that in just a second,
But first, can you describe to folks what the weather
was like last week when the fires started? Giving your
perspective of reporting on this sort of thing for years
and years.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
And I worked in the broadcast media here in southern
California for thirty plus years, twenty of which I spent
up in an airborne capacity in a helicopter covering these events,
these wind driven events. This is the worst I have
ever seen, and I was on the ground for this one.
And essentially what happened dynamically in the atmosphere, Things came
together to produce these hurricane force wind gusts in those
(20:04):
areas that we call the urban wildland interface here in
southern California, two of which above Pacific Palis States above
that iconic shoreline if you're on the East coast, you've
seen it in pictures and movies of Malibu. And then
the Eaten fire above just to the north and northeast
of the iconic Rose Bowl and Colorado Boulevard where you
see the Rose Parade every year, those two areas, there
(20:27):
was some sort of trigger in the wild land just
above those communities. Those two sparks happened, and then dynamically, metrologically,
we have this powerful wind event that allowed that fire
to spread. You heard what people in those areas said,
like a blow tours. It was a firestorm, eighty mine
hour wind gusts burning that chaparral, that forest land, those
(20:50):
dry hinder dry blasdshed We had months of no precipitation
essentially here in southern California. That Breashcot fire, the winds ignited,
and that fire spread directly down into those communities. They
Eaten fire Pasadena over towards Alcadina, Sierra Madre, and then
the Palisades fire encompassing the Pacific Palisa there even part
(21:10):
of Santa Monica, and then up the coast towards Malabus.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, I thought I knew what these videos would be
like when I started watching them. But some of the
videos they had in sixty minutes last night and somebody
saw this morning on my phone. It was so windy,
it was like it was like CGI special effects, because
I'd never see anything like that anywhere.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
No wonder it's been so difficult to fight, and it
was like a machine gun of embers being shot over
tremendous distances.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Miles that those embers that Ember cast and the Ember intrusion,
as we call it, it gets caught up in the
eaves of homes two miles away from the fire zone
because it was so dry out there, it ignited homes
well away from that major fire zone. And that's exactly
what happened for a good twelve to twenty four hour
period after the two fires started. The Palisades Fire started
(22:03):
at ten thirty am Pacific Standard time on Tuesday. The
Eton Fire above the Rose Bowl north and east of
the Rose Bowl in the Angels National Fire that started
shortly after six pm on the same day. Worst case
scenario with the weather in play and where those two
fires ignited, allowing those fires fanned by those dusty, powerful
(22:23):
hurricane force windows out of the north and northeast towards
the south and southwest into those communities of.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Pacific Palace states of Alcadina and Sierra Madre, including bizarre
fire behaviors racing downhill driven by the wind, which is
something normally that doesn't happen.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Rick Dickert a longtime meteorologist reporter in LA Online. Rick
talk to us about what's expected this week weatherwise.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
Yeah, again, we said it that PDS issued by the
National Weather Service heightened fire weather encompassing parts of southern California,
Ventura County, the Ranch Area, Semi Valley, San Fernando, the
West Santa Monica Mountains. That's very close to the Palisades
fire from Pepperdine University over towards point we go. Wind
(23:09):
guts again, not as strong as what we saw last Tuesday,
but close to it. We're talking about wind guts of
forty five to seventy miles per a sustained wind of
thirty nine miles an hour that's tropical storm force, a
sustained wind of seventy four miles an hour that is
a Category one hurricane. Those wind guts, in addition to
the relative humidity values of eight to fifteen percent that's
(23:32):
what's going to produce the red flag conditions. When a
red flag warning is issued for southern California, if you're
watching and listening from other parts of the country, that
means explosive fire growth potential, just like what we saw
last Tuesday into Wednesday, that blow towards effect. You get
that ignition and.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Then the fire spreads.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
And I do want to mention that Jack and Jodd
of fire. These fires aren't started by the weather. They're
driven by the weather. There's some sort of ignition. It
could be something in terms of infrastructure. Unfortunately, there's arson.
People let start these fires accidentally. The trigger occurs, the
atmosphere conditions are in play, and that's what allows these
(24:09):
fires to spread so rapidly and create the devastation that
we've seen.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I'm really glad we had you on. What a great report.
Nice job, Yeah, terrific, Rick, We're big fans.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
I'm sorry it's under this circumstance that we talk to
you about fabulous jab but I hope we can stay
in touch.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
Absolutely, stay safe out everybody. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's interesting he brings that up about the Obviously the
weather conditions don't start the fire, they spread the fire.
David Spade, the actor comedian, is offering five thousand dollars
for anybody with information on the arsonists to start the fire.
So clearly he's under the impression that some human beings
started this on purpose. Is I've often wondered this with
(24:48):
with with our you know, you start a you go
into a building and start that on fire, that's a
you know, specific thing. But the starting a fire in
an area that it catches on and then burns and
and burns and burns, you gotta be prepared for that,
whether it's an arsonist, a lightning strike, an electric breakdown,
(25:09):
you gotta have some way to keep that from getting
so out of control, don't you know the uh forest
management We're having enough water in your fire hydrants to
fight it or whatever, because there's always gonna be something
a lot more sparked it or I don't think there
is anything you can do to be ready for.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
That weather after that long a drought and getting sparked.
You have to work like a maniac to make sure
that in those conditions nothing gets sparked and there's super
quick response if it does. But with one hundred malpar
gusts lots and lots of seventy five mile prou gusts,
you're just screwed. To summarize, although, and we've made this
(25:52):
point a couple of times, and it's worth making again
because a particular aspect of this cannot be blamed on
bad govern is no reason to not talk about the awful,
awful governance of California.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Slash LA that was a contributor.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Maybe it doesn't explain it, but it should still be
identified and rooted out.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I wish I could remember where I heard some fire
chiefs saying we could have had every fire truck in
America here last Thursday night and it wouldn't have made
any difference when it was gusting to one hundred miles
an hour, which makes sense.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Well, yeah, the one gent I heard, I think it
was on sixty minutes point doubt that if they have
a fully involved structure, they want three fire trucks there typically,
and that there were as of when they interviewed him,
something like twelve thousand structures had burned.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
He said, do the math. There aren't that many fire trucks.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I was trying to find the quote that man Gavin
got beat up for on Friday it was similar to
what you're talking about. See if I can find it
real quick.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Oh, Gavin Newsom he was.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
He did an interview on a liberal outlet, which also
got him some pushback, like he didn't have the guts
to go on where he was going to be challenged
at all. He said, let's stop with the finger pointing.
I'm not interested in who's to blame. Oh really, that's
interesting because a lot of people are interested in who's
to blame, Like a lot of.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
People with no homes are pretty interested in that. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1 (28:22):
So we can't play this enough today, speaking to Gavin Newsom,
the Governor of California, here's here's my tiny little seminar
I'm going to do for politicians.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
If you're ever asked the question does the buck stop
with you? Always say yes. There's no win in anything
other than yes, here you go. Does the buck stop
with you? I mean, you're governor of California, inviting it
will be the Mayor of California. We're all in this together.
We're all better off. We're all better off. We're all
better off, and we're working together to take care of people.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
What.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Wow, obviously, well we know where Kamala Harris's speech writers
went to work having been laid off.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Oh my god, that was a terrible job. I'm strong
and geddy. Thank you. We've got more on the way.
Stay with us. Do I take off my coat like
a girl? Apparently I do? I found out last night.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I'll explain that in a second, But first, I know
it's head shaking lye on, I know me neither did I. Well,
I'll tell you the story in a little bit. But
Pete hegzath. This is the week they start getting into
the confirmation hearings. I'll just tell you this reporting John
fun writing a National review. According to one senator, uh,
(29:36):
they might not have the votes to get him out
of committee, let alone get to the big floor vote thing. Now.
Mark Hauprin's writing in his newsletter today is he thinks
if Trump demands a floor vote, it will get out
of committee. But he said, don't be surprised if it
doesn't even get a floor vote, and there are at
least a dozen possible no Republican votes. He can only
(30:00):
lose three, is that correct Republican votes? And although Fetterman
seems to be a yes on all the Trump stuff,
so maybe you pick up one there. But there are
a dozen senators out there. Susan Collins, Lisa Markovsky are
hard nos. Mitch McConnell is a likely hard no, Jony
Ernst of Iowa, some others that are possible knows.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
So we'll see how this turns out.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah, I think Pete Headseth is a good man. I
think he has some good ideas. He unquestionably has some
baggage though things he said and advocated. And this is
not a recommendation or an endorsement or non endorsement of
the guy. But at some point Trump and company will say,
all right, how about we get a good man with
some good ideas who doesn't have all this baggage.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
It's just the way it works. So I got to
find the exact wording on this.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So I'm eating at Red Robin last night, Katie, because
you know, I like the classy diners Red Robin with
my son. He really likes the gluten freeburger. There get
the burger. I think they got the best fries anyway,
we're eating inks, that's not the point.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Of the conversation. I'm eating.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I take off my jacket and my son, Henry, thirteen
years old, said, you take off your jacket like a girl.
I thought that was hilarious because I don't even know
what that means. And I thought, just what a funny
thing to say, and I laughed.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I said, was I mean? He said, you do?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You take off your coat like a girl? So I
texted a friend of mine who I've known for years,
and I thought it was just going to be funny.
I said, I'm out to eat with Henry. He said,
I take off my jacket like a girl. And they
texted back, you are certainly particular and intentional, I said,
question mark when removing your jacket. I said, you've observed this,
They said, I have that I take off my jacket
(31:38):
like a girl a particular, intentional way. That is the
way a woman takes.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Off her coat.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
In all of our years working together, and what is
it now, thirty three or more, have.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
You ever noticed I take off my coat like a
girl in particular? No, okay, will you take off your
coat really.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Fast so we can get a demo because I'm I'm.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Trying to take a step back so we can see
over there is it? Okay, I gotta fix this because
I'm I'll be single the rest of my life if
I'm taking off there taking it off?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
What my son said, it's kind of hot, he said.
The way you roll your shoulders and stick your chest out,
it's like a girl.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I feel like it needs a sexy music bed.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Really, I wish you had a coat on, Katie. Maybe
you can show me how a man takes his coat
off as opposed to me, you can have a woman
demonstrate how to be a man for it, gender bending madness.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
This is highly embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
I could not I'm wearing an armstrong and giddy hoodie
good Armstrong, a giddy dot com.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I cannot at this. But how does a guy take
off his coat?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
And how did I pick up the manu mannerisms of
a woman for taking off my jacket?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
The way I roll my shoulders and stick up my
chest is girl like.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
Well, I'm thinking about the way that my husband takes
his jacket off and he just kind of like throws
it over one shoulder and then kind of like just
shakes out of it. So I don't know there they're
see Michaelangelo.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Watching Michael take off.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Folks, Michael's jacket is on now it's all yeah, see
it's the wiry, casual, unassuming, just gets it done, not
a bunch of preening and posing like a friend.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Here.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
How many dance out of his jacket? You know, out
of my tack?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
How she said, how many dates have I lost in
my life where a woman's thinking, oh, ain't kind interested
in him?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
And you know, kind of like his blah blah blah.
And then I took off my coat and they're like, no,
FLA deal breaker is a deal breaker. I can't be
with a guy who takes off his coat like a girl. Lady, lady, lady,
your way out. I didn't even know there was such
thing as taking your coat off like a girl.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
And now with people who know me, I bring it
up and I say, oh, yeah, you've always done it
that way.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
What the incisive criticism of Henry well done son? Huh?
I gotta think about that long and hard. Where did
that come from? I don't no, but man up? Would you?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I got a practice Michael after the show, Can I
watch you take your coat off again? And I try
to nail down.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Hr the weirdest requests I've ever had. I clearly do
it the way I roll my shoulders. What the hell
you do? Yeah, that's what we've been asking some deal.
You learn something about yourself every day.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
We have a whole separate group text thread about how
you take your jacket off there.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Okay, don't ask me about my pants. Jack.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
So getting back to Pete, Hegsath's just briefly, and again
I'm not here to endorse him or to say he
shouldn't be sectaf or at least get a try. But
this is why good people don't get into politics. You've
heard all those allegations about womanizing or at one conference
fifteen years ago, he blah blah blah, drinking too much
and the rest of it. A lot of that is
(34:54):
coming from a former employee name of Cat Dougan, who
worked for or Concerned Veterans of America, where Pete was
the CEO.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I believe at the time she worked there for eight months.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
She received a poor performance review several months into her
job as she was serving as cva's North Carolina state director.
Shortly thereafter, she filed for short term disability, then long
term disability, and ultimately resigned her position and claimed disability.
The national field director at the time, Sean Pattison, told
(35:33):
the Washington Free Beacon that Miss Dugan quote consistently fell
short of performance expectations.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
She was a bad hire. She did not do a
good job.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
She only lasted a few months, then started suing everybody
and wanting disability and the rest of us.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
And now she is the.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Secret source, the anonymous source of all these allegations.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
About hexath Right, and all the people on Fox and
Friends say we worked with him every day for years
and years and years, and nobody's called us and asked
us a single question about this.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
There is a long line of people who worked with
him for years who say, this guy is one of
the most stand up people I've ever known periods.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
So I'll bet Pete Hegsaff doesn't take his coat off
like a girl.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
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