February 17, 2025 • 36 mins
Monday Feb 17,2025 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay...
- Rapper Shot/ Declaration of Independence
- Renaming Greenland
- Jack on RFK Jr. & National Mental Health Conversation
- Bernie's warning about billionaires
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
And as long as we're.
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we think.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
You'll enjoy it, sir, choices we get in l those
were your choices.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Somebody got shot? O?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
How good? Hold on the dirty dead?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
What do I want with my da do?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Shaddy?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
What the hell is this?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Everybody that is?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That is rapper too low? Who is a pairing as
a kiss? A guest on a podcast? Who the gun
went off in his pocket? Apparently somehow?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Okay? First of all, guests on a podcast. To have
a podcast, all you need to do is own a
phone or a computer. So is this a podcast with
any I mean anyway? So he's sitting around talking to
a guy and his gun goes off. What's the most
interesting to me is these people live such a lifestyle.
The reaction is, Hey, who's gun went off?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Somebody's gone.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Who pretty, somebody's gun went off. Whereas most of the
company I keep, if there were a gun shot in
the room, we would all be quite flabbergasted. Who shot? Who?
Oh my gosh, is that a gun in your pocket?
Or you're just happy to be on my podcast. Say
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that again, Michael. Just the beginning of it.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
And choices we got in life. Those were your choices.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
All right. Getting back to our topic, motivating ourselves for
the new year, rapper too low. If you need to
stick to your diet through January, that's beautiful. So there
are a couple of things I wanted to do yesterday
as kind of a kicking off the year thing. But
we have so much let's to get to it. We
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can't get to all of it. But I love this.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm gonna hit you with part of it and then
we'll move on.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
We got a bunch of stuff. But this is written
by a guy named Jeff Goldstein, who is a writer
I really like, and he has this redeclaration of independence,
and you'll know what he's driving at immediately.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Be it so understood. This is my vow for the
new year, too. I refuse to.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Unpack white violence. I reject the idea that my existence
perpetuates white power structures. I will not, and in fact cannot,
examine my ipplicit biases. I'm an indo. I refuse to
grant determined interpretive communities authority over my being. My meaning
is mine, is what makes me me. I'm not taking
any journey to discover the impact of my privilege on
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black and brown people's I will not become anti racist
or anti fascist to satisfy your demands. I reject cultural Marxism.
I am an individual. I'm not defined by my color,
my lrige, and my sex. I'm jeff good to meet you.
I will not respect your pronouns or celebrate your queerness.
I am hostile to your sexualization of children. I reject
your triggers and your desire to control my speech. I
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know who and what you are. You are my presumptive master,
or else the useful idiot who empowers him. But I
will grant you and your ideology no power over me.
There's more you want to hear a little more sure.
I reject equity because it is collectivism disguised as virtue.
I reject inclusivity because it is inorganic superficial and contrived.
I reject mandated diversity. I will not surrender to the
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crayon box mafia, nor do the gender changelings who pretend
I am construct answerable to their whims. Cultural appropriation is
merely culture. It expands to include, and it makes up
the very fabric of a pluralistic society. There's no such
thing as digital blackface. My whiteness is not violent, my
sex is not oppressive. My religion doesn't concern you, and
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my children are not your stam mold. Your beliefs will
not be imposed on me. The state will not parent
my sons.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Theory. Yes, digital blackface, I'd forgotten that term.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Oh yeah, and again if you've lost a thread, This
is a re declaration of independence. Queer theory is critical.
Race theory is critical. Consciousness is the Marxist rejection of
the individual as individual. I have some stats on how
many states queer theory is being taught in schools to
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little children as truth and is as shocking. Well, one
more time. Queer theory is critical. Race theory is critical.
Consciousness is the Marxist rejection of the individual as individual.
Cultural Marxism is determined to raise norms so chaos tear
families asunder and reduce being to collective conformity. I reject
its premises as fully as I reject its adherents. I
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will not comply. I will not mouth your slogans. I
will not denounce on command. I am not your tool,
and you are not my minder. And he has a
little more about my speech is my own. I reject
each of your excuses to silence me. I don't ask
for your protections. I can filter information without your interference,
Mark Zuckerberg, and I despise your presumption to protect me
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from myself. I am your sworn enemy, and you are mine.
I will not perform for you. I will not read
from your script or dance in your follies. Oh my brother,
we'll post this at armstrong egedi dot com. It is brilliant,
and he goes on.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
But that's the main party, and it fits in with
that Wall Street Journal article I was reading from last hour.
The progressive moment in global politics is over. That moment
existed mostly online and with the you know, high level
university set. It was a much smaller group than we
all thought or feared, thank god, but it was it
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was misleading because it was so prevalent in you know, TV,
newspapers and Twitter in places like that, but it was
not near as big as we all thought. And the
best thing that could happen to people that are on
the right side of that, and you could be a
lifelong Democrat and be to the right of all that
stuff by a law shirt like Bill Maherr and lots
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of people. The best thing that could happen for us
is if they continue to believe that they have the
numbers they think they have as opposed to the tiny
fraction that actually agrees with them.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'm reminded of something great you brought to us, I
think it was last year about how it only takes
fifteen percent of a population that's dedicated to a revolution
to make it successful. Because you want to give us
the nickel version of.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
That, Yeah, you have to have the fifteen percent really
really active group that wants to overthrow the current regime.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But you get a big enough chunk of people who
mostly agree with you. They're not going to really do much,
but they're not going to get in the way, and
then you have the crowd that's scared of you, and
you can easily.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Get over fifty percent, right right, and that's how you in.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And imagine if you were in that hardcore fifteen percent
that wanted to, I don't know, for the sake of
the argument overthrow Western society in the name of neo Marxism.
Imagine if your first step was to capture media and education.
I mean, that would be an enormous coupe because you could,
and I'm stating the obvious here, you could project the
idea that you have way way more mass than you
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do for your radical ideas, like radical gender theory, which
I will give you a clue. It's like over a
third of American states are teaching radical theory. There's no
such thing as a man or a woman. You get
to choose to little kids in schools. So man, these
these scumbags, And I'm sorry for the for the you know,
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I'm a wardsmith. I can do better than that. I
apologize these monsters. At least it's more adult. The fact
that these monsters have gotten as far as they have
is really really troubling. But you know, on we go
with the fight. Trudeau resigning in Canada is a lot
of what sparked. For instance, the Wall Street Journal article
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one on the list of Western leaders or parties that
have really suffered defeats trying to ride the whole pronouns
latinex you should be ashamed of yourself for being a
white male.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Bang right, Yeah, yeah, he was huge into that.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
And the what's really troubling about this, and we've had
a bunch of conversations, is you got to your well,
just you keep calling it fifteen percent for the sake
of the argument.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
You get your hardcore fifteen percent activists.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Well, the genius of neo Marxism developed in the intellectual
salons of Europe in the forties and fifties, nineteen forties
and nineteen fifties. They wrote books, they signed their name,
they told us precisely what they wanted to do. The
genius of it is they have crafted, and it's an
evil genius, these moral sounding arguments that convince a certain
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sort of person that they are doing the right thing
morally by becoming.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
An adherent to Neo Marxism.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And it's particularly effective among women who want to seek
agreement and groups and acceptance of that sort of thing.
And it's particularly successful among your university crowd who want
to be on the cutting edge of thought, that's how
they gratify their egos by being the innovator, the new person,
the revolutionary. It's incredibly I mean, they take practically sexual
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glee for being innovators in the universities, because how are
you going to justify your big if you in any
level of education say you know that stuff we've been doing,
it's perfect. I wouldn't change it at all. True, you've
wasted your PhD. So anyway, man, you have heard a
lot of gun shots. If your reaction to a gun
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shot in a room is this.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And choices we got in laye, those were your choices?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Whobody been calmer than that shot?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Who did somebody get shot?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Huh? What? It would be the most amazing thing that
ever happened in my life if a gun went.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Off in a room. We're sitting there interviewing, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Rich Lowry from the National Review of Rich says who
shot who?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Who? Somebody get shot?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
And choices we got in lay Those were your choices?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Who? It actually pretty interesting conversation before you know, the
gun went on. So the other thing I wanted to
squeeze in a couple more kind of wrapping up the
year looking forward, to the year things, because I'll rant
and rave about the previous story for the rest of
my life. But Jan Crawford was on CBS's face the
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Nation Sunday.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I saw that, and she brought the thunder.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That the most uncovered and underreported topic last year was
clearly she said, quote that to me, Joe Biden's obvious
cognitive decline. They became undeniable in the televised debate, unquestioned
that that's the most underreported story of the year.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Yeah, absolutely true. But we'll be lost to history. It's
amazing that there isn't more introspection over that. Well, here's
the really interesting part. She says, still incredibly, we read
in the Washington Post that his advisers are saying that
he regrets that he dropped out of the race, that
he thinks he could have beaten Trump, and I think
that is either delusional or the gaslighting the American people.
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But CBS's chief Election.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And campaign correspondent Robert Costa jumped up and said, well,
President Biden has repeatedly said he was sick during the
debate in Atlanta, and he's always been fine, and he
leaves fine.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That is his position.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
The position of many of his top stadents as well
as even though there is that reporting that Jan was
talking to reduce the obvious accepted by everyone reality of
Joe Biden's cogdon decline as there is that reporting, but
he has now Jan he has said repeatedly had a cold.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Costa's lost to me, he's lost his mind. I don't
know who that's for.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Eighty five percent of America before that debate thought he
shouldn't serve again.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So I don't know who you're serving with that, But
enjoy your bubble Bob, the Armstrong and.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Getty Show, Yeah, or Jack Orgoe podcasts and our Hot Lakes,
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I wonder if.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
There's gonna be a run on those giant Schnauzer.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Of course there are, of course, they're the dignified giant
Schnauzer they call it. Is there like an undignified giant
Schnauzer breed as well, like the clowney, you know, kind
of loser giant Schnauzer that where's a wife beater around
the house and woops where it once? I don't know.
So this is one of my favorite moments in legislative history.
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A House Republican representative Earl Buddy Carter of Georgia, natch,
I'm gonna move to Georgia just to vote for Earl
Buddy Carter. He introduced a bill this week that would
enable President Trump's efforts to purchase Greenland and rename it
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Red White and Blueland.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
The bill would also require the federal government to refer
to it as such on official maps and documents. Never
mind what the Denmarkians and Greenlanders say. Let's see as
part of the bill, America is back and will soon
be bigger than ever with the addition of Red, White
and Blueland. President Trump has correctly identified the purchase of
what is now Greenland is a national security priority, and
we'll proudly welcome its people to join the freest nation
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ever exist.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
When our negotiator in chief inks this monumental deal.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Also considered as names for the new state, Cold af Sylvania,
Polar Barrington, simply Ice, Ice Baby, and my favorite North
North North Dakota. Oh. Now, we're gonna have nice cooperation
with Greenland. The Arctic and those passageways are going to
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be incredibly important in the next fifty years and it's
a good thing.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Do you remember? I should do it again in case
anybody didn't hear it. The biggest rumor in Washington, d C.
According to Mark Alpern, and he talks to all the players.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Oh yeah, the biggest rumor in the world, persistent and omnipresent,
is the talk of a grand bargain between the United
States and China that involves reduced tariffs, US access to Greenland,
China's peaceful taking of Taiwan, all and several provisions and
players to be named later.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
It seems implausible to many years and eyes, but the
talk of this deal is everywhere, says Mark.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Alper This sounds like it could be.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
A moral horror to me, but I'm trying to understand it.
We won't fight you on Taiwan. We concede, sorry, Vladimer.
You get the rights to the Northern Passage through the
Arctic and the rest of it as a zone of
influence and security. And let's get it on and we
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call it a deal. Yeah, yeah, and a couple of
players to be named later.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I got a question.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
So yesterday was Lincoln's birthday, Yes, sir, and Lincoln is
on the penny. The penny was the most my whole
life on the present piece of currency that existed. It
is since lost its usefulness. Yes, we all agree with that.
But if Lincoln isn't the greatest president of all time,
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he's number two. So I mean, you know, everybody agrees
on that pretty much. Right, he's either him or Washington.
They're in the top two. And do we move him
to another? Doesn't it seem I mean, we're eliminating the
most dominant currency that existed for my whole life with
him on it.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So that's a lot of less Lincoln bouncing around. And
they're talking about putting you know, Harriet Tubman on the
twenty or whatever. I've been talking about that for a
long time. Lincoln still got there. He's got the five
dollar bill. Yeah, that's a fine. You know, he's the currency,
the finn the five.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
It ain't like the penny.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Though everybody had a penny in their pocket my whole life,
Lincoln was in their pocket, your whole life.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
No more. You got to move on. I just feel
like he's getting downgraded.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Not only I don't know what to tell you, you know how,
I'm always predicting a planet of the beavers, because human
beings are going to die off because we're not reproducing
a fascinating story. The Czech Republic was trying to build
a damn project for years and years and years, and
while they were arguing about it, beavers actually damned off
the river and accomplished what the government couldn't.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
That's a pretty funny story. They're ready to take over.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
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I do not have a strong position on a lot
of these issues, as they are so freaking complicated. And
then you add in politics and money and then try
to figure out what's true and what's not. It's really
really difficult, but I do know this, Practically everybody in
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the country seems like they got a kid who's got
something wrong with him that didn't exist decades ago. How
many times have we said on this show, how is
this not biggest story in America?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And RFK Junior spends a lot of time talking about it.
Whether he's right about all of that stuff. I haven't
got the slightest idea. I would say this, it matters
more to me than anything else in my life. I
spent the entire day yesterday, like I've spent many of
my entire days over the last thirteen years, dealing with
this situation with one child. Psychiatrists start this medicine, stop
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that medicine.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Do I call the police right now? What?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
How do I handle this whole situation? And it's all
because of something that my kid doesn't deserve, that happened
to him, because of the environment, or something that happens
with vaccines around Who freaking knows. I have no idea,
but I know a lot of you are in the
same boat, and I would love to be able to
figure this out.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Love to be able to figure this out. It's the
most challenging thing that's ever happened in my life. It'll
be the most challenging thing in my son's life the
rest of his life.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And I love it if we could have serious conversations
about these things.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
But can we? Is it possible to get it beyond
what is Trump for? Is he for it that I'm
for it? Is he for it that I'm against it?
Can we get past that or not?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
If we can't get past that, then I guess we're
all just doomed to try to figure this all out
on our own.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Getting back more specifically at RFK Junior, I think you
could teach a college class, maybe two of them, back
to back an entire year on his nomination and the
controversies around it, because there are I mean, there's the
scientific part of it, certainly, the question of you know,
how to approach scientific studies and meta studies and that
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sort of thing. Correlation and causation could be a few cases,
a few classes, and then you could get into a
situation where somebody and I'm glad that sen It's in
charge of getting to the bottom of this and not me,
but somebody says a whole lot of things that are true,
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and a whole lot of the people that are attacking
him are greed heads and liars, and he's a greed
head and a crack pot and says things that aren't
true for attention and money. All of those things can
simultaneously be true. And that's why this is so interesting
to me and troubling and confusing. And you know, I
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have no idea, no desire rather to offend anybody who
thinks that Bobby Kennedy would be a real force for
good given some of his stances, because I get that,
I actually get it. I'm just troubled by the guy
in a lot of the things he believes.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
I am back to the general back away from RFK Junior,
to the general question of so he says, on a
regular basis, we have the sickest kids in the world.
Is that documentable? Is that true? I know we've got
more anxiety and depression and suicide than we've ever had.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Do we have more than other ways? I don't look
into this stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Maybe I should, because I'm so busy dealing with my
own individual situation.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I don't really have.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Time to look into the meta problem and compare it
to you know, Norway, because I'm trying to figure out
you yesterday, yesterday, I'm on the phone with multiple doctors
trying to figure out various this and that as things
aren't working well at all, and so I don't know,
do we have the sickest kids in the world. Is
that a statement that's true?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I don't know. I don't know that would be helpful.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I mean, it's enough to know that our kids are
sick in ways that they weren't thirty years ago. On
the other hand, you know, for a unique then you
can start nailing down what is unique about the United
States that would tend to cause what we're seeing. I
doubt that's true. I'm reeling through my memory banks. I
know a lot of the negative trends in terms of
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mental health that we're seeing are practically universal, if not
universal in the developed world, they.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Ought to be worth here and by degrees and various topics.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
A number of people on the autism spectrum and anxiety
and medication and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Is that true? Other I would develop.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I hope, you know, I hope somebody has and that
comes up in the hearing today. If we have the
sickest kids in the world, that's a big story. And
another problem is a lot of the big studies that
People's site have been utterly discredited. Sure, some of these topics, Sure,
Charlottean's on all sides. Whenever you have a severe need,
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you will have fraud.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
It's it's tough. I mean to be perfectly fair on
all sides. It's really tough because you've got ideology, you've
got money, and then you got Trump derangement syndrome, and
you put all of those together and it's really hard
to figure something out. The money thing. I was asking
this all the way through COVID.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Remember when they would try to decide whether or not
to UH to to approve another booster, make another mandatory booster,
And I would say, and it's still true, how many
billions of dollars depend on that?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And are you gonna tell me everybody involved, and yes
we should mandate another booster, or no is doing it
for health reasons and not for the billions and billions
and billions of dollars that are on the line.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
It's impossible to think that that's true.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
And even if it doesn't motivate them to do the
opposite of what they would have done otherwise, it can definitely,
you know, I'm forty percent sure this is a good idea. Wait, wait,
you're gonna donate enough money that I can get elected
for as many terms as I want for the rest
of my life. Yeah, I'm fifty one percent sure.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Are a lot mostly non elected officials involved in all
that stuff, all these different committees and agencies and stuff
like that. I don't know anything about their motivations. But again,
when you got that much money slashing around, I mean,
the various pharmaceutical companies wouldn't be doing their jobs if
they weren't trying to influence these people with you know,
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we'll give you a gazillion dollar grant to study this
if you vote yes. The other weird thing around the vaccine,
You're going to see a whole bunch of Democrats today
beaten up RFK Junior for his stance on vaccines. All
of that flipped during COVID. My whole life, our whole
lives have been talking about all these moms in Marin County,
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in the Bay Area who wouldn't get their kids vaccinated.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Super hippie lefty liberals. Remember the old the saying used
to be people that don't vaccinate their kids are all
within a certain radius of a Whole Foods.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
That was always because it was true.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I live in a town like that full of lefty
moms who didn't want to vaccinate their kids. Now it's
a maga, crazy right wing nut job thing. How did
that happen?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
How did y'all switch teams so fast?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I think if you can answer that question, you understand
human beings, and please at that point share it with
the rest of us.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
And then one more thing before it starts to show. Officially,
we had the breaking Kennedy news at the end of
the show yesterday we read part of the Caroline Kennedy
letter about her own brother. It didn't mean that to
be any endorsement of Caroline Kennedy. If you've listened to
the show for a long time, I don't hold the
Kennedy's in high regard In any way.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
They ought to be banned. I think that we ought
to offer them the following bargain. You can be jailed
or exiled permanently, or you can change your name. I
never want to hear the damn name Kennedy again, No,
except for that nice gal from MTV is now on
Fox News. But worth keeping in mind the blast from Carroll,
Sweet Carol, from Caroline Kennedy about her brother. She was
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up until like a couple of months ago saying Joe
Biden is fit for office for another term.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So keep that in mind in terms of her judgment
or how honest she is.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
I the armstrong and getting show.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
I wanted Joe to make an argument for why I
should be worried about the billionaires and being at the
inauguration and being too close to Trump and whatever. This
oligarchy that Biden warned us about the other night. Bernie
talked about this lest yesterday with the Treasury Secretary some one.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Of your confirmation hearings. Here's Bernie Sanders. We don't talk
about this enough.
Speaker 7 (27:33):
And that is when you got three people on top
well more wealth than the bottom half of American society,
one hundred and seventy million people. You know what, that's oligauchy.
When you have massive concentration of ownership in our economy,
fewer and fewer corporations owning and controlling the economy, that's oligauchy.
When you have more and more billionaires, whether it's Musk
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owning Twitter or Murdoch owning a Fox, or other billionaires
owning newspapers.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's oligarchy.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
She didn't want to say bezos in the Washington Post
because they're on your side, right Ryan, Yeah, who's another
conservative Murdoch?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, that's it? So well in what way? Well, what's
the argument for there shouldn't be billionaires? They've got too
much money? This is an oligarchy. I will tell you
this a couple of things.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Number one, if you are if you hope to be
a serious person, a person who of you it is said,
I don't always agree with him or her, but their
point of view is always worth taking in. You need
to be able to steal man the other side's argument,
the opposite of a straw man, where you construct the
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ridiculous parody of their argument that knock it down and
feel all manly you see.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
It all the time. It works. You've got to he dismissed.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Like, I'll tell you what, after a rough day, nothing
I like better than beating the hell out of a
straw man. But you know, you've got to construct a
very strong argument, as they would make it I've got
to admit I'm finding this argument, this assignment very, very difficult,
because I find the argument's weak. What I would say
is similar to Bernie. You have that much concentrated wealth
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and power in a few people with a direct connection
line to the Presidency and the entire executive branch, they
will become a star chamber of the ultra wealthy, directing
US policy to their whims.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Oh my god, I did a good job. Evidently you
know my argument. How would you stop?
Speaker 5 (29:49):
How would you first of all, how would you stop
the possibility of that? How would you limit the possibility
of that anyway within the bill of right?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Oh? No, no, it can't be done. There are a
couple of like really good counter arguments against that, even
if you admit.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
That it's true. One, what are you gonna do about it?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
If your net worth is more than fifty million dollars?
You don't get to a petition the government for a
redress of grievances.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Right, or you're not allowed to talk to your senator
or the president.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And speaking of visiting Washington, DC, if you ever strode
along Ky Street and seen all the beautiful, shiny buildings
that are full of lobbyists. That sort of thing is
already happening in spades every single day.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Obviously because of our bent, it's just so much easier
to take the other side of this.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Statistically. First of all, just start here. There are more
billionaires that donate to Democrats than there are donate to Republicans.
That's just an unknown fact. So and Bernie's against that.
In his defense, he is utterly misguided. But Bernie Sanders
is sincere true.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Bernie is as a socialist, he doesn't think billionaires should exist.
That is a nut job attitude. But Biden is fine
with the Democrat billionaires. He isn't like conservative billionaires. Oh yeah,
complete four one billionaires switch teams because a lot of
times billionaires are just going with whichever direction see Zuckerberg,
maybe whichever direction. Okay, they're in power, let's make them happy,
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which you know is not a bad business model.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
But first of all, it's a lot like we mock.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
If it's going to be one hundred degrees, everybody gets
all excited as opposed to ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
It's just a round number. I don't know why somebody
who is whose net worth is nine hundred million dollars
is eh, do what you want to do. But once
you hit a billion, you're all of a sudden suspect
I got to kill you. You've got a billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I mean that just seems like so if you got five.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Guys in the front row that each have three hundred
million dollars, don't need to think about them.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
It's the two billionaires over there. Just it's just silly.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I think this is this is
my final on this, and it's a very handy thing
to keep in your intellectual back pocket to bust out
in case of emergency. And that is Jefferson's famous declaration,
not of independence, but that he would rather attend to
the problems of too much liberty than too little. And
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there are so many things like the billionaire argument, because
it's you know, it's reasonable to say, look, you got
people with incredible wealth and power. They can direct the
government in ways not foreseen by the Constitution. It's absolutely true.
But the cure would be worse than the disease. It's
it's a you know, to unfortunately bring up christin home. Agin.
My dog Baxter, God bless him, still hanging on. He's
(32:43):
a fabulous dog. He's very bright. He's very willful. He
is like a disobedient child. He will get away with
what he can. And you know, when I'm in the room,
he's good. But at the minute I walk out of
the room, he's like eight. The bus is gone. Anyway,
I could certainly eliminate a lot of those problems by
shooting my dog like I'm Christino. It would absolutely, one
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hundred percent cure those problems. Billionaire follow you, No, no, no,
what am I Luigi the psychopathic lunatic? No I am not. No.
What I'm saying is gosh, it would be nice to
not have those problems. But if the cure violates your
(33:27):
fundamental beliefs, then you've got to find another way. You've
either got to live with it or be more clever
about curing it. And one of the great sick tendencies
of the left, especially but not exclusively the left, especially
if you want to look at history, but one of
their sick tendencies is to say, this is a problem,
(33:49):
and this is a solution to that problem. Therefore we
must do it. And the idea that we don't get
to do that we need to just put up with
it or help a little bit. We don't to give
ourselves the power to cure that quote unquote problem would
make us monsters.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I'm not sure a lot of the media even has
an argument. They just think that because I've seen a
fair amount of news coverage where it's just Elon Musk,
Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg. Will all three be attending the
inauguration on Monday. There are the three richest men in
the world.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
And they plan to sit together, and they kind of
look at you like, huh, isn't that scary?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
But with no follow up is why it would be
in any way?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I don't right, it's just appealing to like not spelled
out prejudices. It's like if you're in a group of
racists and somebody brings up a black man, for instance,
and somebody says something disparaging about them. Nobody says, all right, now,
let's have a discussion of the positive and negative aspects
of that person's character and whether that.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Was deserved or not.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
No, they'll just snicker because they're racists, and that's the
way it is. It's just a tribal signaling thing. I
think they're way wrong on this. I think most people
admire billionaires, wish they could be a billionaire.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Think it's cool. Imagine what it'd be like to be
a billionaire.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
I know there is a crowd college students or whatever
college professors who are just the term billionaire.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
The idea of a billionaire makes them sick. But I
think that's like a tiny percentage of the country, don't you.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I would agree. I do think most people are bothered
by it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
The politics of envy is incredibly powerful too. But yeah,
I think, and this is crazy. Maybe you want to
jot this down. If a billionaire does something good, why
don't you say that's good? And if they do something bad,
say that's bad. And I don't like it. We'll go
from there, all right. They are elon trying to rein
in the shocking, sprawling, idiotic growth of the federal bureaucracies.
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That's great.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, I don't care what his net worth is.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I think it should be pointed out more than the one,
two and three richest people in the world are all
Americans who made their goal of it from scratch in
the United States of America. Because you can wow.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Great point.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
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Speaker 4 (00:36):
You'll enjoy it, sir, choices we get in l those
were your choices.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Somebody got shot? O?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
How good? Hold on the dirty dead?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
What do I want with my da do?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Shaddy?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
What the hell is this?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Everybody that is?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That is rapper too low? Who is a pairing as
a kiss? A guest on a podcast? Who the gun
went off in his pocket? Apparently somehow?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Okay? First of all, guests on a podcast. To have
a podcast, all you need to do is own a
phone or a computer. So is this a podcast with
any I mean anyway? So he's sitting around talking to
a guy and his gun goes off. What's the most
interesting to me is these people live such a lifestyle.
The reaction is, Hey, who's gun went off?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Somebody's gone.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Who pretty, somebody's gun went off. Whereas most of the
company I keep, if there were a gun shot in
the room, we would all be quite flabbergasted. Who shot? Who?
Oh my gosh, is that a gun in your pocket?
Or you're just happy to be on my podcast. Say
(01:54):
that again, Michael. Just the beginning of it.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
And choices we got in life. Those were your choices.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
All right. Getting back to our topic, motivating ourselves for
the new year, rapper too low. If you need to
stick to your diet through January, that's beautiful. So there
are a couple of things I wanted to do yesterday
as kind of a kicking off the year thing. But
we have so much let's to get to it. We
(02:27):
can't get to all of it. But I love this.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm gonna hit you with part of it and then
we'll move on.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
We got a bunch of stuff. But this is written
by a guy named Jeff Goldstein, who is a writer
I really like, and he has this redeclaration of independence,
and you'll know what he's driving at immediately.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Be it so understood. This is my vow for the
new year, too. I refuse to.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Unpack white violence. I reject the idea that my existence
perpetuates white power structures. I will not, and in fact cannot,
examine my ipplicit biases. I'm an indo. I refuse to
grant determined interpretive communities authority over my being. My meaning
is mine, is what makes me me. I'm not taking
any journey to discover the impact of my privilege on
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black and brown people's I will not become anti racist
or anti fascist to satisfy your demands. I reject cultural Marxism.
I am an individual. I'm not defined by my color,
my lrige, and my sex. I'm jeff good to meet you.
I will not respect your pronouns or celebrate your queerness.
I am hostile to your sexualization of children. I reject
your triggers and your desire to control my speech. I
(03:34):
know who and what you are. You are my presumptive master,
or else the useful idiot who empowers him. But I
will grant you and your ideology no power over me.
There's more you want to hear a little more sure.
I reject equity because it is collectivism disguised as virtue.
I reject inclusivity because it is inorganic superficial and contrived.
I reject mandated diversity. I will not surrender to the
(03:57):
crayon box mafia, nor do the gender changelings who pretend
I am construct answerable to their whims. Cultural appropriation is
merely culture. It expands to include, and it makes up
the very fabric of a pluralistic society. There's no such
thing as digital blackface. My whiteness is not violent, my
sex is not oppressive. My religion doesn't concern you, and
(04:19):
my children are not your stam mold. Your beliefs will
not be imposed on me. The state will not parent
my sons.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Theory. Yes, digital blackface, I'd forgotten that term.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Oh yeah, and again if you've lost a thread, This
is a re declaration of independence. Queer theory is critical.
Race theory is critical. Consciousness is the Marxist rejection of
the individual as individual. I have some stats on how
many states queer theory is being taught in schools to
(04:53):
little children as truth and is as shocking. Well, one
more time. Queer theory is critical. Race theory is critical.
Consciousness is the Marxist rejection of the individual as individual.
Cultural Marxism is determined to raise norms so chaos tear
families asunder and reduce being to collective conformity. I reject
its premises as fully as I reject its adherents. I
(05:16):
will not comply. I will not mouth your slogans. I
will not denounce on command. I am not your tool,
and you are not my minder. And he has a
little more about my speech is my own. I reject
each of your excuses to silence me. I don't ask
for your protections. I can filter information without your interference,
Mark Zuckerberg, and I despise your presumption to protect me
(05:39):
from myself. I am your sworn enemy, and you are mine.
I will not perform for you. I will not read
from your script or dance in your follies. Oh my brother,
we'll post this at armstrong egedi dot com. It is brilliant,
and he goes on.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
But that's the main party, and it fits in with
that Wall Street Journal article I was reading from last hour.
The progressive moment in global politics is over. That moment
existed mostly online and with the you know, high level
university set. It was a much smaller group than we
all thought or feared, thank god, but it was it
(06:17):
was misleading because it was so prevalent in you know, TV,
newspapers and Twitter in places like that, but it was
not near as big as we all thought. And the
best thing that could happen to people that are on
the right side of that, and you could be a
lifelong Democrat and be to the right of all that
stuff by a law shirt like Bill Maherr and lots
(06:40):
of people. The best thing that could happen for us
is if they continue to believe that they have the
numbers they think they have as opposed to the tiny
fraction that actually agrees with them.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'm reminded of something great you brought to us, I
think it was last year about how it only takes
fifteen percent of a population that's dedicated to a revolution
to make it successful. Because you want to give us
the nickel version of.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
That, Yeah, you have to have the fifteen percent really
really active group that wants to overthrow the current regime.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But you get a big enough chunk of people who
mostly agree with you. They're not going to really do much,
but they're not going to get in the way, and
then you have the crowd that's scared of you, and
you can easily.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Get over fifty percent, right right, and that's how you in.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And imagine if you were in that hardcore fifteen percent
that wanted to, I don't know, for the sake of
the argument overthrow Western society in the name of neo Marxism.
Imagine if your first step was to capture media and education.
I mean, that would be an enormous coupe because you could,
and I'm stating the obvious here, you could project the
idea that you have way way more mass than you
(07:49):
do for your radical ideas, like radical gender theory, which
I will give you a clue. It's like over a
third of American states are teaching radical theory. There's no
such thing as a man or a woman. You get
to choose to little kids in schools. So man, these
these scumbags, And I'm sorry for the for the you know,
(08:11):
I'm a wardsmith. I can do better than that. I
apologize these monsters. At least it's more adult. The fact
that these monsters have gotten as far as they have
is really really troubling. But you know, on we go
with the fight. Trudeau resigning in Canada is a lot
of what sparked. For instance, the Wall Street Journal article
(08:33):
one on the list of Western leaders or parties that
have really suffered defeats trying to ride the whole pronouns
latinex you should be ashamed of yourself for being a
white male.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Bang right, Yeah, yeah, he was huge into that.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
And the what's really troubling about this, and we've had
a bunch of conversations, is you got to your well,
just you keep calling it fifteen percent for the sake
of the argument.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
You get your hardcore fifteen percent activists.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Well, the genius of neo Marxism developed in the intellectual
salons of Europe in the forties and fifties, nineteen forties
and nineteen fifties. They wrote books, they signed their name,
they told us precisely what they wanted to do. The
genius of it is they have crafted, and it's an
evil genius, these moral sounding arguments that convince a certain
(09:23):
sort of person that they are doing the right thing
morally by becoming.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
An adherent to Neo Marxism.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And it's particularly effective among women who want to seek
agreement and groups and acceptance of that sort of thing.
And it's particularly successful among your university crowd who want
to be on the cutting edge of thought, that's how
they gratify their egos by being the innovator, the new person,
the revolutionary. It's incredibly I mean, they take practically sexual
(09:53):
glee for being innovators in the universities, because how are
you going to justify your big if you in any
level of education say you know that stuff we've been doing,
it's perfect. I wouldn't change it at all. True, you've
wasted your PhD. So anyway, man, you have heard a
lot of gun shots. If your reaction to a gun
(10:16):
shot in a room is this.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And choices we got in laye, those were your choices?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Whobody been calmer than that shot?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Who did somebody get shot?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Huh? What? It would be the most amazing thing that
ever happened in my life if a gun went.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Off in a room. We're sitting there interviewing, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Rich Lowry from the National Review of Rich says who
shot who?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Who? Somebody get shot?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
And choices we got in lay Those were your choices?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Who? It actually pretty interesting conversation before you know, the
gun went on. So the other thing I wanted to
squeeze in a couple more kind of wrapping up the
year looking forward, to the year things, because I'll rant
and rave about the previous story for the rest of
my life. But Jan Crawford was on CBS's face the
(11:17):
Nation Sunday.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I saw that, and she brought the thunder.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That the most uncovered and underreported topic last year was
clearly she said, quote that to me, Joe Biden's obvious
cognitive decline. They became undeniable in the televised debate, unquestioned
that that's the most underreported story of the year.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Yeah, absolutely true. But we'll be lost to history. It's
amazing that there isn't more introspection over that. Well, here's
the really interesting part. She says, still incredibly, we read
in the Washington Post that his advisers are saying that
he regrets that he dropped out of the race, that
he thinks he could have beaten Trump, and I think
that is either delusional or the gaslighting the American people.
(12:00):
But CBS's chief Election.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And campaign correspondent Robert Costa jumped up and said, well,
President Biden has repeatedly said he was sick during the
debate in Atlanta, and he's always been fine, and he
leaves fine.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That is his position.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
The position of many of his top stadents as well
as even though there is that reporting that Jan was
talking to reduce the obvious accepted by everyone reality of
Joe Biden's cogdon decline as there is that reporting, but
he has now Jan he has said repeatedly had a cold.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Costa's lost to me, he's lost his mind. I don't
know who that's for.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Eighty five percent of America before that debate thought he
shouldn't serve again.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So I don't know who you're serving with that, But
enjoy your bubble Bob, the Armstrong and.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Getty Show, Yeah, or Jack Orgoe podcasts and our Hot Lakes,
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I wonder if.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
There's gonna be a run on those giant Schnauzer.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Of course there are, of course, they're the dignified giant
Schnauzer they call it. Is there like an undignified giant
Schnauzer breed as well, like the clowney, you know, kind
of loser giant Schnauzer that where's a wife beater around
the house and woops where it once? I don't know.
So this is one of my favorite moments in legislative history.
(13:38):
A House Republican representative Earl Buddy Carter of Georgia, natch,
I'm gonna move to Georgia just to vote for Earl
Buddy Carter. He introduced a bill this week that would
enable President Trump's efforts to purchase Greenland and rename it
(13:58):
Red White and Blueland.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
The bill would also require the federal government to refer
to it as such on official maps and documents. Never
mind what the Denmarkians and Greenlanders say. Let's see as
part of the bill, America is back and will soon
be bigger than ever with the addition of Red, White
and Blueland. President Trump has correctly identified the purchase of
what is now Greenland is a national security priority, and
we'll proudly welcome its people to join the freest nation
(14:26):
ever exist.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
When our negotiator in chief inks this monumental deal.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Also considered as names for the new state, Cold af Sylvania,
Polar Barrington, simply Ice, Ice Baby, and my favorite North
North North Dakota. Oh. Now, we're gonna have nice cooperation
with Greenland. The Arctic and those passageways are going to
(14:52):
be incredibly important in the next fifty years and it's
a good thing.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Do you remember? I should do it again in case
anybody didn't hear it. The biggest rumor in Washington, d C.
According to Mark Alpern, and he talks to all the players.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Oh yeah, the biggest rumor in the world, persistent and omnipresent,
is the talk of a grand bargain between the United
States and China that involves reduced tariffs, US access to Greenland,
China's peaceful taking of Taiwan, all and several provisions and
players to be named later.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
It seems implausible to many years and eyes, but the
talk of this deal is everywhere, says Mark.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Alper This sounds like it could be.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
A moral horror to me, but I'm trying to understand it.
We won't fight you on Taiwan. We concede, sorry, Vladimer.
You get the rights to the Northern Passage through the
Arctic and the rest of it as a zone of
influence and security. And let's get it on and we
(15:56):
call it a deal. Yeah, yeah, and a couple of
players to be named later.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I got a question.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
So yesterday was Lincoln's birthday, Yes, sir, and Lincoln is
on the penny. The penny was the most my whole
life on the present piece of currency that existed. It
is since lost its usefulness. Yes, we all agree with that.
But if Lincoln isn't the greatest president of all time,
(16:23):
he's number two. So I mean, you know, everybody agrees
on that pretty much. Right, he's either him or Washington.
They're in the top two. And do we move him
to another? Doesn't it seem I mean, we're eliminating the
most dominant currency that existed for my whole life with
him on it.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So that's a lot of less Lincoln bouncing around. And
they're talking about putting you know, Harriet Tubman on the
twenty or whatever. I've been talking about that for a
long time. Lincoln still got there. He's got the five
dollar bill. Yeah, that's a fine. You know, he's the currency,
the finn the five.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
It ain't like the penny.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Though everybody had a penny in their pocket my whole life,
Lincoln was in their pocket, your whole life.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
No more. You got to move on. I just feel
like he's getting downgraded.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Not only I don't know what to tell you, you know how,
I'm always predicting a planet of the beavers, because human
beings are going to die off because we're not reproducing
a fascinating story. The Czech Republic was trying to build
a damn project for years and years and years, and
while they were arguing about it, beavers actually damned off
the river and accomplished what the government couldn't.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
That's a pretty funny story. They're ready to take over.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
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I do not have a strong position on a lot
of these issues, as they are so freaking complicated. And
then you add in politics and money and then try
to figure out what's true and what's not. It's really
really difficult, but I do know this, Practically everybody in
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the country seems like they got a kid who's got
something wrong with him that didn't exist decades ago. How
many times have we said on this show, how is
this not biggest story in America?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And RFK Junior spends a lot of time talking about it.
Whether he's right about all of that stuff. I haven't
got the slightest idea. I would say this, it matters
more to me than anything else in my life. I
spent the entire day yesterday, like I've spent many of
my entire days over the last thirteen years, dealing with
this situation with one child. Psychiatrists start this medicine, stop
(19:28):
that medicine.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Do I call the police right now? What?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
How do I handle this whole situation? And it's all
because of something that my kid doesn't deserve, that happened
to him, because of the environment, or something that happens
with vaccines around Who freaking knows. I have no idea,
but I know a lot of you are in the
same boat, and I would love to be able to
figure this out.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Love to be able to figure this out. It's the
most challenging thing that's ever happened in my life. It'll
be the most challenging thing in my son's life the
rest of his life.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And I love it if we could have serious conversations
about these things.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
But can we? Is it possible to get it beyond
what is Trump for? Is he for it that I'm
for it? Is he for it that I'm against it?
Can we get past that or not?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
If we can't get past that, then I guess we're
all just doomed to try to figure this all out
on our own.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Getting back more specifically at RFK Junior, I think you
could teach a college class, maybe two of them, back
to back an entire year on his nomination and the
controversies around it, because there are I mean, there's the
scientific part of it, certainly, the question of you know,
how to approach scientific studies and meta studies and that
(20:39):
sort of thing. Correlation and causation could be a few cases,
a few classes, and then you could get into a
situation where somebody and I'm glad that sen It's in
charge of getting to the bottom of this and not me,
but somebody says a whole lot of things that are true,
(21:00):
and a whole lot of the people that are attacking
him are greed heads and liars, and he's a greed
head and a crack pot and says things that aren't
true for attention and money. All of those things can
simultaneously be true. And that's why this is so interesting
to me and troubling and confusing. And you know, I
(21:23):
have no idea, no desire rather to offend anybody who
thinks that Bobby Kennedy would be a real force for
good given some of his stances, because I get that,
I actually get it. I'm just troubled by the guy
in a lot of the things he believes.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
I am back to the general back away from RFK Junior,
to the general question of so he says, on a
regular basis, we have the sickest kids in the world.
Is that documentable? Is that true? I know we've got
more anxiety and depression and suicide than we've ever had.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Do we have more than other ways? I don't look
into this stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Maybe I should, because I'm so busy dealing with my
own individual situation.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I don't really have.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Time to look into the meta problem and compare it
to you know, Norway, because I'm trying to figure out
you yesterday, yesterday, I'm on the phone with multiple doctors
trying to figure out various this and that as things
aren't working well at all, and so I don't know,
do we have the sickest kids in the world. Is
that a statement that's true?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I don't know. I don't know that would be helpful.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I mean, it's enough to know that our kids are
sick in ways that they weren't thirty years ago. On
the other hand, you know, for a unique then you
can start nailing down what is unique about the United
States that would tend to cause what we're seeing. I
doubt that's true. I'm reeling through my memory banks. I
know a lot of the negative trends in terms of
(22:51):
mental health that we're seeing are practically universal, if not
universal in the developed world, they.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Ought to be worth here and by degrees and various topics.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
A number of people on the autism spectrum and anxiety
and medication and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Is that true? Other I would develop.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I hope, you know, I hope somebody has and that
comes up in the hearing today. If we have the
sickest kids in the world, that's a big story. And
another problem is a lot of the big studies that
People's site have been utterly discredited. Sure, some of these topics, Sure,
Charlottean's on all sides. Whenever you have a severe need,
(23:32):
you will have fraud.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
It's it's tough. I mean to be perfectly fair on
all sides. It's really tough because you've got ideology, you've
got money, and then you got Trump derangement syndrome, and
you put all of those together and it's really hard
to figure something out. The money thing. I was asking
this all the way through COVID.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Remember when they would try to decide whether or not
to UH to to approve another booster, make another mandatory booster,
And I would say, and it's still true, how many
billions of dollars depend on that?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And are you gonna tell me everybody involved, and yes
we should mandate another booster, or no is doing it
for health reasons and not for the billions and billions
and billions of dollars that are on the line.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
It's impossible to think that that's true.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
And even if it doesn't motivate them to do the
opposite of what they would have done otherwise, it can definitely,
you know, I'm forty percent sure this is a good idea. Wait, wait,
you're gonna donate enough money that I can get elected
for as many terms as I want for the rest
of my life. Yeah, I'm fifty one percent sure.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Are a lot mostly non elected officials involved in all
that stuff, all these different committees and agencies and stuff
like that. I don't know anything about their motivations. But again,
when you got that much money slashing around, I mean,
the various pharmaceutical companies wouldn't be doing their jobs if
they weren't trying to influence these people with you know,
(25:04):
we'll give you a gazillion dollar grant to study this
if you vote yes. The other weird thing around the vaccine,
You're going to see a whole bunch of Democrats today
beaten up RFK Junior for his stance on vaccines. All
of that flipped during COVID. My whole life, our whole
lives have been talking about all these moms in Marin County,
(25:25):
in the Bay Area who wouldn't get their kids vaccinated.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Super hippie lefty liberals. Remember the old the saying used
to be people that don't vaccinate their kids are all
within a certain radius of a Whole Foods.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
That was always because it was true.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I live in a town like that full of lefty
moms who didn't want to vaccinate their kids. Now it's
a maga, crazy right wing nut job thing. How did
that happen?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
How did y'all switch teams so fast?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I think if you can answer that question, you understand
human beings, and please at that point share it with
the rest of us.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
And then one more thing before it starts to show. Officially,
we had the breaking Kennedy news at the end of
the show yesterday we read part of the Caroline Kennedy
letter about her own brother. It didn't mean that to
be any endorsement of Caroline Kennedy. If you've listened to
the show for a long time, I don't hold the
Kennedy's in high regard In any way.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
They ought to be banned. I think that we ought
to offer them the following bargain. You can be jailed
or exiled permanently, or you can change your name. I
never want to hear the damn name Kennedy again, No,
except for that nice gal from MTV is now on
Fox News. But worth keeping in mind the blast from Carroll,
Sweet Carol, from Caroline Kennedy about her brother. She was
(26:40):
up until like a couple of months ago saying Joe
Biden is fit for office for another term.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So keep that in mind in terms of her judgment
or how honest she is.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
I the armstrong and getting show.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
I wanted Joe to make an argument for why I
should be worried about the billionaires and being at the
inauguration and being too close to Trump and whatever. This
oligarchy that Biden warned us about the other night. Bernie
talked about this lest yesterday with the Treasury Secretary some one.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Of your confirmation hearings. Here's Bernie Sanders. We don't talk
about this enough.
Speaker 7 (27:33):
And that is when you got three people on top
well more wealth than the bottom half of American society,
one hundred and seventy million people. You know what, that's oligauchy.
When you have massive concentration of ownership in our economy,
fewer and fewer corporations owning and controlling the economy, that's oligauchy.
When you have more and more billionaires, whether it's Musk
(27:55):
owning Twitter or Murdoch owning a Fox, or other billionaires
owning newspapers.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's oligarchy.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
She didn't want to say bezos in the Washington Post
because they're on your side, right Ryan, Yeah, who's another
conservative Murdoch?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, that's it? So well in what way? Well, what's
the argument for there shouldn't be billionaires? They've got too
much money? This is an oligarchy. I will tell you
this a couple of things.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Number one, if you are if you hope to be
a serious person, a person who of you it is said,
I don't always agree with him or her, but their
point of view is always worth taking in. You need
to be able to steal man the other side's argument,
the opposite of a straw man, where you construct the
(28:52):
ridiculous parody of their argument that knock it down and
feel all manly you see.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
It all the time. It works. You've got to he dismissed.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Like, I'll tell you what, after a rough day, nothing
I like better than beating the hell out of a
straw man. But you know, you've got to construct a
very strong argument, as they would make it I've got
to admit I'm finding this argument, this assignment very, very difficult,
because I find the argument's weak. What I would say
is similar to Bernie. You have that much concentrated wealth
(29:23):
and power in a few people with a direct connection
line to the Presidency and the entire executive branch, they
will become a star chamber of the ultra wealthy, directing
US policy to their whims.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Oh my god, I did a good job. Evidently you
know my argument. How would you stop?
Speaker 5 (29:49):
How would you first of all, how would you stop
the possibility of that? How would you limit the possibility
of that anyway within the bill of right?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Oh? No, no, it can't be done. There are a
couple of like really good counter arguments against that, even
if you admit.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
That it's true. One, what are you gonna do about it?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
If your net worth is more than fifty million dollars?
You don't get to a petition the government for a
redress of grievances.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Right, or you're not allowed to talk to your senator
or the president.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And speaking of visiting Washington, DC, if you ever strode
along Ky Street and seen all the beautiful, shiny buildings
that are full of lobbyists. That sort of thing is
already happening in spades every single day.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Obviously because of our bent, it's just so much easier
to take the other side of this.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Statistically. First of all, just start here. There are more
billionaires that donate to Democrats than there are donate to Republicans.
That's just an unknown fact. So and Bernie's against that.
In his defense, he is utterly misguided. But Bernie Sanders
is sincere true.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Bernie is as a socialist, he doesn't think billionaires should exist.
That is a nut job attitude. But Biden is fine
with the Democrat billionaires. He isn't like conservative billionaires. Oh yeah,
complete four one billionaires switch teams because a lot of
times billionaires are just going with whichever direction see Zuckerberg,
maybe whichever direction. Okay, they're in power, let's make them happy,
(31:21):
which you know is not a bad business model.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
But first of all, it's a lot like we mock.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
If it's going to be one hundred degrees, everybody gets
all excited as opposed to ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
It's just a round number. I don't know why somebody
who is whose net worth is nine hundred million dollars
is eh, do what you want to do. But once
you hit a billion, you're all of a sudden suspect
I got to kill you. You've got a billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I mean that just seems like so if you got five.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Guys in the front row that each have three hundred
million dollars, don't need to think about them.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
It's the two billionaires over there. Just it's just silly.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I think this is this is
my final on this, and it's a very handy thing
to keep in your intellectual back pocket to bust out
in case of emergency. And that is Jefferson's famous declaration,
not of independence, but that he would rather attend to
the problems of too much liberty than too little. And
(32:19):
there are so many things like the billionaire argument, because
it's you know, it's reasonable to say, look, you got
people with incredible wealth and power. They can direct the
government in ways not foreseen by the Constitution. It's absolutely true.
But the cure would be worse than the disease. It's
it's a you know, to unfortunately bring up christin home. Agin.
My dog Baxter, God bless him, still hanging on. He's
(32:43):
a fabulous dog. He's very bright. He's very willful. He
is like a disobedient child. He will get away with
what he can. And you know, when I'm in the room,
he's good. But at the minute I walk out of
the room, he's like eight. The bus is gone. Anyway,
I could certainly eliminate a lot of those problems by
shooting my dog like I'm Christino. It would absolutely, one
(33:05):
hundred percent cure those problems. Billionaire follow you, No, no, no,
what am I Luigi the psychopathic lunatic? No I am not. No.
What I'm saying is gosh, it would be nice to
not have those problems. But if the cure violates your
(33:27):
fundamental beliefs, then you've got to find another way. You've
either got to live with it or be more clever
about curing it. And one of the great sick tendencies
of the left, especially but not exclusively the left, especially
if you want to look at history, but one of
their sick tendencies is to say, this is a problem,
(33:49):
and this is a solution to that problem. Therefore we
must do it. And the idea that we don't get
to do that we need to just put up with
it or help a little bit. We don't to give
ourselves the power to cure that quote unquote problem would
make us monsters.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I'm not sure a lot of the media even has
an argument. They just think that because I've seen a
fair amount of news coverage where it's just Elon Musk,
Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg. Will all three be attending the
inauguration on Monday. There are the three richest men in
the world.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
And they plan to sit together, and they kind of
look at you like, huh, isn't that scary?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
But with no follow up is why it would be
in any way?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I don't right, it's just appealing to like not spelled
out prejudices. It's like if you're in a group of
racists and somebody brings up a black man, for instance,
and somebody says something disparaging about them. Nobody says, all right, now,
let's have a discussion of the positive and negative aspects
of that person's character and whether that.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Was deserved or not.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
No, they'll just snicker because they're racists, and that's the
way it is. It's just a tribal signaling thing. I
think they're way wrong on this. I think most people
admire billionaires, wish they could be a billionaire.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Think it's cool. Imagine what it'd be like to be
a billionaire.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
I know there is a crowd college students or whatever
college professors who are just the term billionaire.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
The idea of a billionaire makes them sick. But I
think that's like a tiny percentage of the country, don't you.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I would agree. I do think most people are bothered
by it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
The politics of envy is incredibly powerful too. But yeah,
I think, and this is crazy. Maybe you want to
jot this down. If a billionaire does something good, why
don't you say that's good? And if they do something bad,
say that's bad. And I don't like it. We'll go
from there, all right. They are elon trying to rein
in the shocking, sprawling, idiotic growth of the federal bureaucracies.
(35:48):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, I don't care what his net worth is.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
I think it should be pointed out more than the one,
two and three richest people in the world are all
Americans who made their goal of it from scratch in
the United States of America. Because you can wow.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Great point.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
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