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March 24, 2025 35 mins

Hour 4 of A&G features...

  • Coach yanks players ponytail & CA high speed rail
  • Jasmine Crockett calls for Elon take-down & Trump doesn't like his portrait
  • Booting out illegals
  • Final Thoughts! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and get Katy and He Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
High school basketball coach in New York State was fired
Friday night for shocking behavior after his team lost a
state championship game, and NFHS Network livestream shows Northfield Girls
head coach Jim Zulo yanking the ponytail of one of
his players.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Zulo, who is eighty.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
One years old, told our Albany station wtean the player
had cursed him after he told her to shake hands
with the other team. Police are now looking into whether
charges should be brought.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Not pro ponytail yanking, but that detail at the end
I was unaware of. So they lost the state championship
and one of his players wouldn't shake hands with the
other team. You don't get to yank her pullytail. But
that's not cool, No, no sportsmanship?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah you have, if that's true, you have. Well she
cursed him when he said, hey, we got to shake
their hands.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't curse the coach, especially
over that. Katie. You saw the video.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
I saw the video. Oh you saw the video. I
knew somebody saw the video. How hard does he yank
the ponytail?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Hard? Hard enough to be wildly inappropriate? Yeah? Her whole
body jolted back when he did that.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
So you have two people doing bad things. But as
a coach, a probably you know, half crazed old man
who's lost.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Control of himself. You need to be out of coaching.
Eighty two.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
If indeed it's all true, the kid was way out
of line. Kids these days, modern children, blah blah blah,
very bad, and he needs to.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Be out of coaching. Both are true.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
So it occurs to me, Michael, do we have like
a didn't we used to have a theme for like
a California update or something? I know we've got California's crumbling,
but didn't we have something like with the B Boys
or can't even remember? You just have metal guy in
California's crumbling. Ready, Well, we'll ease into it with this
clip of Bill Maher and Ezra Cline, the insufferably lefty

(02:12):
journalist behind vox.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Is that what he started up anyway? Yeah? But yeah,
he's a big columnist for the New York Times.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Now yeah, yeah, Okay, good for him, but that is
what he's doing these days.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I thought this was an interesting exchange California. Nicebeed rail.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
It's a huge disaster, but nobody's ever done anything about it.
If you tried to build it again, it would go
the exact same way.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
I think we first passed it in two thousand and eight.
I think they just voted about something about it again.
It's projective. Just give up just to just to just
to build I think from Bakersfield to Merced.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Who the hell wants to go from Bakersfield to me
when they couldn't do that, and.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
The people building it were perfectly clear with me, Look,
this doesn't work if we don't do it La to
San Francisco, and they don't have the money to do
La de San Francisco, and they don't have the regulatory
structure to do it. They have been clearing They started
clearing the rail track through environmental review. The whole point
of high speed rails it's good for the environment, right.
They started clearing it through environmental review in twenty twelve.
By the end of twenty twenty four, it was almost done.

(03:16):
Their reviews were almost done. And the thing that bothers
me about it, and we didn't get high speed rail
is they didn't change it right, Okay, huge failure. Learn something,
make it so it won't happen again.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
When Ezra Kleine is saying this has gotten off the rails,
for your pardon expression, it is really off the rails.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
There isn't a sane defense for it. I have not heard,
and I'm racking my memory because I want to be
I want to be accurate about this. I don't think
I have heard a single person advocating for the so
called high speed rail project who is not personally profiting
from it for a very very long time.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Well, I would like to say somebody mark this down
years from now, when it's still being built and billions
of dollars a taxpayer dollars are still being poured into it.
That we played this clip today where Bill mahern as recline,

(04:22):
we're mocking the idea that it continues. I'd be shocked
if two years from now, for instance, they're still not
pouring billions of dollars into it.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
You know, it's funny. I'll give you a glimpse into
my psyche right now, not the scary part.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
The fairly normal part. And I'm talking to the good
folks now, I am. I'm feeling like it's almost silly
to be indicting the high speed rail because it's a
one inch pot. I mean, it's it doesn't need to
be indicted anymore. It is universally recognized as a boondoggle,

(05:02):
a failure, a rip off.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
And a fraud. And it continues. See that's the weird
judgema position. It's also continuing to squander billions of dollars.
You at a very high rate of expenditure.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
I would like to know where it ranks on a daily, monthly,
yearly basis on terms of things we spend money on
in the state.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
It'd be pretty eye up there. It's gotta be right,
oh yeah yeah. And I said billions, it's tens of
billions of dollars. It's just it shocks the conscience.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Anyway, there's no point in belaboring it.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Everybody listening agrees, we agree, as re client agrees, and
yet it continues. It's a good point, metal guy and
well said, So I got a little excited. I saw
this on the Twitter that there is now forty eight
percent of the California electorate open to a Republican governor
in twenty twenty six forty eight percent. But I mean

(05:58):
you would need every single one of those voters, you know,
if turnout is more or less normal, and you would
still lose because you only have forty eight percent that's
even open to Republicans. So I have put my excitement
back on the shelf.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, that's your excitement should be on the shelf, and
like can be in front of the container of flour,
because it's going to be a while before we needed
your optimism again.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I mean, because like way up high and back, like
that giant stock pot you only use to build to
make like chili for the opening.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Day of the football season once a year.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Ye, store it back there, your optimism, right, the little
metal things for punching out Christmas cookies you can put
back with those.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
That's going to be a while before you need it.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Because if the generic candidate doesn't get to fifty percent,
because the generic candidate always does better than a real candidate,
because real candidates have flaws and personalities. If you're not
even out into a generic in your mind perfect situation.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Up to fifty percent, there's no chance.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Right, So I thought this was so interesting on a
similar theme, and who am I quoting here?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Credit where it's to?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Oh it's Wall Street Journal, Tale of two jobs and
I'm sorry, Tale of two states on job creation. Democrats
are slowly waking up to the fact that migration from
blue to red states could become a political problem for
winning the House of Representatives, which I thought was very
interesting because people are self segregating seems so negative. Many

(07:36):
people who can and that's an important caveat, are going
places they feel more welcomed and happy in living under
governance that they like. And it's going to get worse.
Judging about the Labor Department's latest state jobs report, excuse me,
which shows that California lost jobs in nearly every industry

(07:56):
in the year.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Before Trump took office.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
The Bureau of Labor Statistics last week released annual revised
jobs numbers for states based on more complete data.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Did you hear about this at all?

Speaker 6 (08:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
No, I didn't either anyway.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
California gained a net twenty two four hundred jobs from
January twenty four to January twenty five. All of the
net new jobs were in government wow and healthcare, social assistance,
and private often higher education. Which relied to a large

(08:32):
extent on government funding, and there were big losses in construction, manufacturing,
information finance, professional and business services, leisure and hospitality, retail.
The growth was government and those other areas that I
was talking about. Private businesses shed jobs in the year,

(08:56):
including almost twenty nine thousand lesson construction UH thirty three
four fewer in manufacturing, and go on on tens of
thousands in various industries. Some job results are results of
small businesses closing because of high taxes and other costs.
These include California's sixteen to fifty an hour minimum wage

(09:18):
twenty dollars for some freaking reason. For fast food restaurants, well,
that's because the SEIU wanted to unionize them and the
state's private Attorneys General Act. Let's try lawyers extort small
businesses by filing dubious lawsuits for alleged labor violations. It's
just like the wheelchair Nazis thing, but it's labor violation Nazis.

(09:38):
Most businesses pay off the attorneys in settlements because defending
against the lawsuits, frivolous though they may be, would cost
even more. Then you've got large companies relocating workers to
lower and tax lower tax and cost states. Texas during
the same period added one hundred and eighty eight thousand

(10:01):
in a year, with gains spanning all industries, including twenty
thousand more in construction wow, forty two hundred more in manufacturing, information,
nineteen thousand more in finance, professional business services another twenty thousand,
leisure and hospitality eleven three, retail fourteen thousand.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
So not Loan's government and healthcare.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
No, the lone star state only added about a quarter
as many jobs in healthcare, social assistance, and private education
as California. Texas spent about fifty billion dollars on health
and human services compared to California's two hundred and twenty eight.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Oh my god, those statistics are unbelievable, Katie.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Can you come up with the populations of California and Texas?
I mean, because Texas has less population, but that is
almost it's just over a fifth.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
To guess, I'm gonna guess California is what thirty four
to go with? I think it's close to forty Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
But it's your guest. Look at me hoarding in on
your guests. What an idiot? Sorry? And then Texas, I'm
going with twenty seven. Okay, we thirty nine, and I
like your twenty seven. Okay, thirty nine point four. Okay,
you're definitely run in California. So we got forty million
people in California, holy cow, and Texas thirty one point two.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Okay, okay, all right, so three quarters as many people, roughly,
and again, Texas spent fifty billion dollars on health and
human services, California two hundred and twenty eight billion dollars.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Well, on the other numbers, though, jobs added, it works
in reverse. It's amazing that Texas, with three quarters of
the population, added that many more jobs than California did.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, indeed.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
And and they mentioned in the Wall Street Journal a
point that I've been trying to hammer home for years.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
But now let's do Rhode Island in Connecticut. Ah, that'll
be fun.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
And this is wasted breath, and I shouldn't bother. But
California's economy, well, this is one preliminary point than to
the thing I ammer all the time. California's economy is
also becoming more dependent on government spending, including federal funds,
which total one hundred and sixty two billion dollars last year,
stock market corrections slow down federal funding could open big

(12:27):
gaping budget deficits that might force cuts and government spending layoffs.
And certainly the coming pension crisis will arrive all the sooner.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Right, So it's a perpetual motion machine if it weren't
for one thing, to where all the growth is in
government and government expenditures, and you just keep going. The
problem is the classic problem always with socialism. Pretty soon
you run out of other people's money. The people that
are paying for this are realizing I'm not paying for
this perpetual motion machine anymore.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
I'm moving somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
And then here's the same old song you hear from me,
and I'll keep it brief. Wall Street Journal Editorial Board
points out that one problem for Democrats and Sacramento is
that the progressive tax regime, the effective top marginal rate
of fourteen and a half percent, has made the state
budget increasingly dependent on high earners, whose incomes are vulable volatile. Rather,
the top one percent of earners contribute about half of

(13:20):
the state's income tax revenue. Wow, And not only is
it incredibly volatile, so you can't count on studying numbers
for budgeting purposes. But as I've said many times, if
you narrow the tax base that much, those who pay
for the waste will never have enough votes to end
the graft and waste. And that is what Gavin Newsom

(13:42):
and the Democrats and the unions and the trial lawyers
are counting on. And it's a great scam. It's very successful.
I congratulate them on their evil and their cleverness.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Well, and every time that one percent that's paying half
decides to get a new zip code that's in a
different state, that's a huge blow.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
We got a lot more on the waist here, car heyey.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Starting with on March twenty ninth, It's my birthday and
all I want to see happen on my birthday is
for ELI to.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Be taken down.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yet that's a representative Jasmine Crockett. Apparently there's an attempt
to organize some sort of Tesla boycott for Fry.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
What would that be.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
I mean, you don't buy a car very often, so
I've boycotted every car maker there is for the past.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Three years for instance.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Right, Yeah, I'm sure they'll have exciting rallies where they
chant stuff and wave placards or something.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
I might be getting a different tesla. It'd be awesome
if it happened to coincide with that day. I would
love to drive it off the lot and day everybody's protesting.
I saw an op ed in a New York Times,
some ridiculous thing about, uh is it okay to buy
a test?

Speaker 7 (15:00):
Now?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
You know that sort of thing? Oh lord, that's whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Anyway, people losing all the elections, you're noxious.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Attorney General BONDI said this about Crockett.

Speaker 8 (15:14):
This is domestic terrorism and Maria. Now you have this
congresswoman Crockett who is calling for attacks on Elon Musk
on her birthday. Let's take him out on my birthday,
she says. Yet she turns and says, oh, I'm not
calling for violence. Well, she is an elected public official,
and so she needs to tread very carefully because nothing

(15:36):
will happen to Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Rocket it's almost an abbreviation for kroc oh it is.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
I want to get this on. It's kind of funny.
This is from Donald Trump's Twitter feed. Came out today.
Nobody likes a bad picture or painting of themselves. I've
never had a painting on myself, but the one in
Colorado in the state Capitol, put up by the governor
along with all the other presidents, was purposefully distorted to
a level that even I perhaps have never seen before.

(16:06):
The artist also did President Obama, and he looks wonderful,
but the one on me is truly the worst. She
must have lost her talent as she got older. In
any event, I would much prefer not having a picture
than having this one.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Now, I haven't seen any of you.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, I'm looking at it and it's it's not uh,
it's just not It just doesn't look like him. I mean,
it's bad from the standpoint of it. Just he just
it looks like a heavier, younger hymn. It's not a
very good likeness.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
So it's not like cartoonishly, you know, insulting.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
No, And he talked about how everybody's so unhappy with
it and they need to take of what a funny
thing with everything he's got going on domestically and around
the world, to put out a really long statement about
how he's really unhappy with the painting they have of
him in the.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Colorado State House.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
He's the anti Churchill. He stops to throw rock exit
every dog that barks.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
The terriphrase, great.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Brit Yeah, he's actually so, where where are we on
Venezuela and gang members getting heaved out of the country.
Tom Holman, he's going wild and we'll give you an
update on all of that stuff coming up in second stay.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
With us Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 7 (17:19):
I don't care what that judges. Thank As far as
this case, we're going to continue to arrest public safety
threats and national security threats. We're going to continue to
deportum for the United States. As far as Evans and
one is that flight, every single one, according to the
information given me from the field, are members of the TDA,
and tda's been determined to be terrorist organizations. They are

(17:40):
not classified at terrorts. So that plane removed two hundred
and forty terrafts from the United States.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
That's Tom Holman, who's been put in charge of kicking
out violent gang members or really anybody who's here illegally.
Our officials show stance seems to have landed on. Politically,
this is a win booting people out left and right.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Letter what they try to tell you on the news. Yeah,
politically it is a win.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Legally, constitutionally, we got to make sure there's due process
and all that sort of stuff, because that's.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
What we do. Yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I think it is not at all implausible the Trump
administration's leaning on the Alien Enemies Act, which we can.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Get into in a moment or two. But yeah, we agree.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Look, if anything happens without due process, it starts to
make me nervous because you know, if by some horror
of happenstance, a Jdve, a JB. Pritzker of Illinois, or
a Gavin Newsom became president and they decided to unleash
whatever evil schemes they had, you know, I want due

(18:45):
process to stand in the way of them, you know,
screwing over innocent Americans. But anyway, we'll talk a little
bit more about the Alien Enemies Act.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
If for no other reason, then it's got a great name.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
In a moment, Well, there was a story floating around
social media over the weekend, and I think the New
York Times had it actually of some dude that was
absolutely not a gang member and got caught up in
this and was there being treated horribly back in his
home country and sought asylum and blah blah blah. I
didn't drill down on that, but I'm sure that will
work its way through the court system.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, to whatever extent we can avoid that sort of thing.
I mean, who could be against that unless it paralyzes
the actual removal of all of the nasty, murderous, rapey
gang members.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Well that's the goal.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Certainly from some people, it's like it's like, you know,
the lawsuits over sodium pentathol, whatever it is you give
to execute people, your ultimate goal was to not have
any executions. This is just a particular individual way to
stop it legally. And I have a concern that that's

(19:54):
what the goal is for a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Oh, I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, And I heard a lot of this alleged gang
member was a young father. He was liked by his neighbors,
and he blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Look if he was in trendy arragua, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
If he was the loving father of five in a
local volunteer softball coach, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
It's immaterial.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
So you know what I want to get him in,
Paul lang Wood show that even if you weren't in
a gang, but if you were here illegally, people want
you gone.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
I don't rely on pulling I rely on what's right,
he says, without a hint.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Of self righteousness. I thought it was so interesting. A
couple of things about the Alien Enemies Act. First of all,
the news media is making a big deal about Trump
relying on a law from seventeen ninety eight. Oh, the
stupid ancient law and it's unconstitutional.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Well that was seventeen eighty nine. Idiots.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Are you in favor of like super old established presidents
or are you not?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
You idiots?

Speaker 1 (20:58):
But again, I don't think they're reading of the laws
at all implausible. Some folks have made a big deal
of fact that we haven't declared a war, and the
Act is for a state of war.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Let me read it to you.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Whenever there is a declared war between the United States
and any foreign nation or government, say there you have it.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Well, wait a minute, there's more comma.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or
threatened against the territory of the United States by any
foreign nation or government. All natives, citizens, denizens I like
the word denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or
government who shall be within the United States not actually naturalized,
shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and booted

(21:44):
the hell out, Well, it says, and removed as alien enemies.
So what is a predatory incursion? When Maduro of Venezuelan
knows full well who he's exporting, I'm going to.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Start calling my son at Denis and I usually go
with hoodlum or derelict. You wear those pants, you look
like a derelict, I'll say, Dennison. Well, now that just
means like person from anyway?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Uh does? Oh? So what is a predatory incursion?

Speaker 1 (22:14):
I'm fine with letting the courts decide, or Congress can
step and say, hey, we got to womend the Act
and then now we here's some more specific wording.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
That's fine. That's the way the legal system is supposed
to work. And if there's some.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Guy who's not actually a gang memory he's just a
humble Venezuelan who hates freaking communism and wanted to make
a start in the US, I don't like him being
booted out without due process. But again, there are going
to be mistakes made as you do the right thing.
There have been loads of mistakes and dead people when

(22:48):
we're doing the wrong thing. So hey, it's not a
good thing that maybe an innocent gets caught up in this,
and I know you yelling he's an illegal, boot him out.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Okay, fair enough, How do you make an ama? You
gotta break some way boats. That's a good point. But anyway,
we got to work our way through this.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
And honestly, you know, a single circuit court judge making
a stupid decision, I'm not threatened by that because we
have an appeal spot process and I don't know if
you've heard, We've got a really good Supreme Court sitting
right now. So anyway, if you've heard that in all
those are crazy, it's outrageous, it's illegal.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
No, it ain't. Oh, that's right.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
I wanted to get to Tom Holman addressing the statement
by the media and people on the left. It a
lot of these people don't have criminal convictions. They're not
convicted of being gang members. How dare you clip fifty four?

Speaker 7 (23:41):
Most terrors we arrest are identified yos camera are later
identified through a Title three investigation or through an undercover operation.
They're not in any terror screen in basket in screening database.
We know that many gamers don't have a criminal history.
We have a kind of social media. We have a
kind of surveillance technique. We had to count on Swarren
statements from other game memory, count on you know, wire

(24:02):
taps and title threes. Everything involved with the criminal investigations
come into play.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Putting aside the fact that Tom Homan sounds like a
punch drunk prize fighter and is difficult to understand at times,
he is absolutely crazy, knowledgeable and smart. It's funny, I
don't know what you need. Some speech shift there.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Is somebody has a little moush mouth like he's just
a few too many drinks, says, you know what, you
gotta do this, you gotta blue them.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
But his point is no, you can figure out who's
a gang member without having them convicted. And they're foreign,
they're illegal, they're in the country. They're nasty. We're getting
rid of them.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
No polls really well too. Again, politically, people don't like
illegals in the country.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
If I'm asked to follow the laws and regulations of
the United States, I am just fine with everybody else
doing the same thing.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
It's as simple as that they make me follow the rules.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Are they threatened me with fines and jail and all
sorts of other things, or loss of reputation. My boss
will get rid of me if I bring disrepute upon
the organization. And yet those people are allowed to be
completely lawless. People don't like that.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
We will finish Strong next Armstrong.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
I see confession signs are back in the news. John
Vetterman had one at home. I way Versachi Alec Baldwin.
I killed Jane Hackman.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Oh that's you gotta be on the edge. I'm sorry,
one of.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
The rescued astronauts.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
This sucks. I wish I was back in space.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
Aaron when a random kid approcused me, I just assume
he's mine.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
I'm not familiar with the concept of confession signs.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I'm not either, but I went with it anyway.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
I don't know how many of you know who Adam
Frank is. If you ever listened to him or read
any of his books, He's apparently pretty well known.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
I don't think i'd ever heard of him before. He's
an American physicist.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Astronomer, and writer, written several books. And I took in
a long podcast he was on Friedman's Lex Friedman's podcast here.
They talked for like three and a half hours. It's
amazing that those.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Podcasts do as well as they do.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
But anyway, there's some really interesting stuff on there that
I had never heard or thought about before. Particularly, they
got into the conversation of whether or not there is
any other life anywhere in the universe, which is one
of my favorite.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Topics, and.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
He made the point, which is obviously true, but I've
never really thought of it, that if they ever discover
life anywhere or that it had existed, even if it
doesn't exist now, then it changes. It goes from we
might be the only life that is exepted in the universe.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Two, it's all over the place.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
I mean, because just finding it anywhere else would lead
you to believe that, Okay, it can happen more than once.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
This is the one off. Okay, now we're off to
the raisins. It's all over the universe.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
And what does that mean, given them many billions of
possibilities where it could be sure?

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, first of all, he had this info. I didn't
know that. The recent info is this. I don't know
how many people know this.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
There are at least as many stars in the universe
as there are grains of sand on planet Earth. They
use that as a rough number, just to give you
an idea of how many stars are.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Every star has at least one planet, so there's like
a thousand stars.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
There are.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
The numbers are amazing, But every one of those grains
of sand stars out there has at least one planet.
One out of five of them are in the habitable
zone at least the right distance from the star that
we believe life could occur. So the numbers on that
is there have been slash are ten billion trillion planets

(28:10):
that meet the criteria for life. Ten billion trillion, obviously's
an unimaginable number, and his argument.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Was, you have to believe.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
It's either more likely than one in ten billion trillion
or less likely than one in ten billion trillion that
life could exist somewhere. And as long as you think
it's more likely than one in ten billion trillion, then.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
There's life out there somewhere. Yeah, which is an interesting
mathematical way to look at it.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Hasn't the idea that no, no Earth is completely unique
been kind of hit in science.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Circles for a little while. Now lately, I feel like
there's a lot more scientists. I think this is why
he was out talking about this lately. I feel like
there's a lot more scientists thinking I don't think there's
any more life out there. And then there's the Fermi paradox,
which we talked about a couple of weeks ago, as
a famous scientists who once said, then where is everybody?
The idea if there was teeming life out there, have

(29:16):
we not heard from anybody, seen one bit of information
about it?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Ever?

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Just seems odd, doesn't it now? This guy that I
was listening to, he said, the amount of the universe
that we have explored or reached out to, or could
have heard from is the equivalent of a bathtub full
of water out of the entire ocean on Earth.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
So it's a very tidy amount that we've explored, right.
And then you have the problem of across time. I mean,
you had an intelligent civilization exist for one hundred million years,
but that was three hundred million years ago.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Right. I'm glad you brought that up, because that is
one of it, because one of the things, because it
could be that. And he made the point that you
could have had a civilization as sophisticated as ours.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
On this planet Earth.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
That lasted ten thousand years, but if it had been
one hundred million years ago, there'd be no sign of
it whatsoever. I mean because just the way things deteriorate,
there'd be no way of knowing if we had one
of those a ten thousand years civilization scic flying around
living their life, doing their things, whatever reason, destroyed itself,

(30:27):
that we'd have no way of knowing on our own planet.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
So how the hell are you ever going to know
on some other planet? So this might be like the
second time we've developed the Internet and AI to destroy ourselves,
or the fifth or of what, who knows what.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
But according to that guy, you're never going to see
the statue of liberty poking out of those sand that
realized it's.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
The planet of the apes right the time aspect is
the crazy one. That's where it gets really weird because
human beings, we've had sophisticated civilization for a blink of
an eye, and so that that's when it gets weird,
because you look at some planet that's been there for
four billion years and at any point it could.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Have had a civilization and then it disappeared. How would
you ever know? Anyway brought me to this and I'm
gonna check this out.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Are you familiar with the TV series The Expanse I
haven't seen it him not, No, it's one of those
streaming series.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
But the the idea of it is like Elon wants
to do.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Colonizing Mars, but but it colonizes a whole bunch of
different planets and it follows the how things would play
out from there, and it sounds pretty interesting, kind of
like politically human nature wise, where you'd have I mean,
like he asked the question, if Mars gets colonized, at

(31:49):
what point would the people of Mars say, Hey, you
don't get to tell us what to do anymore.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
We're going to do our own thing. No colony would
ever do that.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah, exactly, none of your business how we decide to
live here, for instance.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
And by the way, we're kind of full up, so
stop sending rockets here because we'll shoot them down.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
We're not accepting anymore. Yeah, at what point does that happen?

Speaker 4 (32:13):
And then if you have multiple planets like I guess
this TV show is about, then you get into you
know that.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Planet over there has got more nits which we need.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
How about we go take it. I think we can
take it and they can't stop us. Of course, me
sitting on a whole lot better Nicerisium. I'm gonna make
an alliance with that planet over there.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
I say, you come over here, We're gonna whoop your ass. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Obviously there's no reason to think human nature wouldn't just
expand to the very same situation.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Of course it would. Yeah, of course it wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Strong, Strong, you're ready, And that's when I put on
a tri cornered and we have a demonstration where we
throw all the night Jurissium in the bay to make
the point right. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

(33:08):
So many people who think so little time. Wi's that's
a little premature. Let's get a final thought from everybody
on the team to wrap up the day. There is
Michaelangelowell lead us off there.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Happy birthday, Katie.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
It is Katie's birthday, so on that day birthday, yes,
twenty nine forever.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Oh, I love you for that.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Oh six, watching you grow Katie, very very you're thirty six.
I am god you do Wow, guys, thank you Katie.
A final thought on this year natal day. That's that's it.
I'm I'm grateful to still be here. Yeah, amen to that. Jack.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
A final thought you'd like to share like, for instance,
they colonize Mars. You get a population going there and
they decide, you know, we want to be a patriarchy
that only allows this religion. What are you gonna stop
them because we don't think that's right?

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Or I mean, now's that all gonna work out?

Speaker 1 (34:06):
You're gonna send a space army up there to whoop
them back in a shade?

Speaker 7 (34:10):
Right?

Speaker 4 (34:11):
No?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
My final thought is NCAA basketball tournament related in that
I was rooting for my alma water, the University of Illinois,
and they lost in a sloppy game against Kentucky. But
it's a bunch of guys I'd never heard of before
in my life. They all transferred in through the transfer portal.
They'll all be gone probably next season. It'll be a
new collection of guys wearing the orange and blue. And
I'll probably still root for him. But how long will

(34:36):
the love affair with college sports last? Now that it's
completely different?

Speaker 4 (34:41):
I wonder Armstrong and Getty rack I about other grueling
four hour workday.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Go to Armstrong Engeddy dot com. Many pleasures, Await see
you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
God bless America. I'm strong and geta is the biggest
ponsis game of all time.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
It's a huge disaster, but nobody's ever done anything about him.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
No, no, that's not what I was told. And we
do not have to live like this. In fact, we
cannot live like this. I'm gonna call my lawyer.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Garnjee Dundeea's screaming stop it.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
It is over.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
It is over, and when it's over, it is over.
It is over. Bye Bye Armstrong and getdy
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