March 31, 2025 • 34 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- Gavin on Maher's show & A's in Sacramento
- Great Trump impersonation & how much melatonin should you take?
- The Signal text scandal
- Trump is pissed at Putin
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong is Joe Getty arm Strong
and Jetty and now he I'm strong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm sure you're tired of talking about the high speed Reel,
but it was passed in twenty nineteen. You said, let's
be real, the current project as planned would cost too much, respectfully,
take too long. Right now, there simply isn't the path
to get from Sacramento to San Diego. Well, there's a path,
it's the highway.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Now.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
That's Bill Maher talking with Gavin Newsom, Governer of California
Friday night on his HBO show.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Or one of several airlines that are delighted to bring
you to and fro for a bargain fee. Right, I
haven't watched that yet. How tough was mare on him? Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Gavin, I'm sure scrambling to try to get on that
show because he is trying to position himself as the
moderate Democrat as Poles show, that's what most Democrats want,
regardless of what the media thinks.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And he's running away from his entire careerer has to.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Go.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You can't do it, do something else.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
With your time, you end up with an authenticity problem,
which is part of what hurt Kamala Harris. But anyway,
let's hear this conversation from Friday night's HBO show.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
My Roof, the roof? My is this the solar? Is
this about to the solar? After the fire? It's always
about the solar, after the after the fire, new roof.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And they suggested, you know, get the stuff. It's not okay,
two inspections I needed to have. Why it's my roof,
if it's if it falls on.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
My head, that's my problem. That's it. That's it. That's
the statement. That's my question. Why do I.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Need two inspections which I have to pay for? Yeah,
you were here last time we talked about regulations. You said, oh,
it's a completely new day.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well no wait wait wait, it's a quart from you.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Completely new day. So you were working on.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
By the way, and last week you had Ezra client on,
which was incredibly important. We have a book called Abundance
which really lays out a very condemning picture of liberal
governance in this country and the fact that we are
process focused and not outcome focused. And your demonstrable example
of that is related to what you've tried to do
with your damn roof for the last fifteen years, and
(02:35):
so it's our job to eliminate as many of those thickets.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
How's that going as possible?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
It's I like the crowd laughing at that question, how's
that going? As in obviously it's not going very well,
or or you're completely I almost dropped it as bump,
or you're completely full of crap.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah. I have said many times Gavin has no beliefs,
and he's utterly soulless. He is very very smart, though,
and very canny in listening to that quoting Ezra Klein
and the rest of it. If anybody can run against
his entire career and every single thing he's ever done,
it might be Gavvy. I don't think he can do
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that successfully, but he has an amazing way of saying, Yeah,
that's the challenge we're trying to deal with. I tell
you what I get in the Governor's office. I see
all these regulations and I think this has got to end.
We got to empower the businesses to succeed. And you're like,
wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, where have you been?
Who are you? It's like in Superman change turns evil
(03:40):
in that one movie. It's disconcerting but opposite. But yeah,
so he's I don't know, I don't know. Can he possibly? Oh,
I was gonna say, bamboozle enough people to get himself
elected president? Depends who the Republicans run. Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Two quick things when we got this text, The average
a Mayorrian man is fatter than the average American pig.
That's all they said, no context. I don't know if
that's like a body fat.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Percentage, So the average American pig could fit in my
pants easily or what.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I don't know what that means. The average American man
is fatter than the average American pet pig.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
In terms of like ideal weight versus reality. I guess anyway,
you know, fat is a pig? Are our pigs especially
fat in the animal kingdom? I don't think so. I mean,
if they're, like, you know, being raised for bacon or something,
they probably are. But I look at a pig and
I don't say, look at that fat ass. I just
(04:43):
think you pleasantly rounded. Where did fat is a pig
come from? No, they're not fatter because the way they eat. Maybe,
of course that expression probably came about when the average
man weighed one hundred and eighteen pounds thin as a rail.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Okay, away from that, so we got I saw this
in the New York Times. This is a New York
Times article today. Sacramento is ready for its Major League moment.
Just don't say Sacramento. The Athletics temporarily have moved to
California's capital region, but insisted on avoiding references to Sacramento.
Residents who are thrilled to have MLB games are used
to such slights. It says Aaron, we are at the
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very stadium the New York Times is writing about right now,
broadcasting live as it is opening day for the They
just call themselves the A's or the Athletics. If I
say Sacramento A's, do I get in trouble?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Oh my god, God, they'll club us. They'll nights stick
us for saying that. Don't say that. Why did they
not want that? I'm sure they could explain it to you.
Because they didn't want to alienate Oakland fans. They didn't
want to alienate Oakland.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Last Vegas secular, going eleven thousand people showing up to
each game last year on.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
A good day Yeah, I don't know, you'd have to
ask them. I think it's they want to be the
team for the region.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Jack, I'm guessing it's because if I've spent gazillions of
dollars for the Las Vegas A's, I don't don't be
rebranding them something else before you bring them here, right.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I just think they're trying not to tread on any toes.
But our longtime flagship station for the talk show happens
to be the flagship for the athletics for the next
three years, and so they asked us to come out
and help celebrate the opening day. That's why we're at
a ballpark to do a talk show, you know. Back
to the gaven Usom thing briefly. Jack a little earlier
was telling the tale of trying to get an individual
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bottle of water at a convenience store in cal Unicornia
and was told by the cleric.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
The law, as Katie informed us, that was passed once
you say, like three years ago, has finally been implemented.
You can't buy a single use water bottle.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
So if you stop at the Comedian store and you're thirsty,
you can't walk in and buy a little bottle of
water like you have with you and your family every
time you've stopped on vacation.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Everywhere in America, you can buy literally five hundred and
forty different beverages at your average big company.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Most of them will kill you over time. They're horrible
for you or turn you into it a degenerate drunk,
and they're in a plastic bottle. Right, but you can't
buy water or an aluminum can or whatever. Yeah, that's right,
And Gavy's gonna run against that record.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I tell you too many regulations. I fought this, and
we'll fight it till America becomes the great place that
can no, no, no, you can't beat me and then
decry violence with your fist still bloody. You lying.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So add to the list with gas cans and lawnmowers,
and there's just a gazillion things you could come up with.
If you're thirsty and you're coming into California, make sure
you buy a bottle of water in Arizona or Nevada
or Oregon before you get into California, because it's against
the law.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Hilarious. You've got heroin attics sleeping in the park, selling
drugs openly with pig bulls running around and your little
kid can't play there. Yeah, and you let that happen me.
You can't buy a bottle of water? What the freaking hell?
Irons one bell too many? It's a real challenge. We're
(08:01):
trying to reduce regulations to deal with this issue that
was visited upon us from heaven. I had nothing to
do with it. Unbelievable that it really is unbelievable. Yeah,
cal Unicornia, Hi Karamba.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I would think if Gavin Newsom runs for president, I
would think the first of all, you'd have to get
the nomination and that fight could be pretty brutal. But
the number one thing you'd hit him with is people
are leaving your state for the first time in its history.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, one of the most beautiful, dynamic places on the
face of God's Earth.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
You reach a limit where, oh wait, I can't get
a normal lawnmower like you can in other states, or
I can't buy a guess can, or now I can't
even buy a bottle of water.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Mean, the family's thirsty. You finally and the taxes are insane.
You finally decid you know what going somewhere else, and
lots of people are and then you hear the announcement
that we're going to be the World Center for Confused parents,
bringing their teenagers here to have cruel sex change experiments
done on them, a medical procedure a child could never
consent to. Can't buy a pack of smokes, but we're
(09:05):
gonna alter their genitals or feed them powerful hormones because
they're momentarily confused. And you think, Nope, not going to
be a party to it.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
So Trump did an interview with the host to Meet
the Press right before the show yesterday and said some
wild stuff, really interesting, newsmaking stuff that we ought to
get to at some point.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Owing from the world to ATHPT. The Trump Putin bromance
is off good.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
But I do want to talk about some of the
sleep stuff we discussed on Friday. We got a text
from somebody who's done a lot of research on melatonin.
According to him, I took twenty times the recommended now
amount last night.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Is that too much? I wonder your eye is bulging.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Just go on.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I know I can't hear out of my right eye.
It's not good. All this on the way, stay tuned.
A lot of music's getting excited.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
We're sitting at a Major League ballpark, as the sun
has come up and the.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
The A's play the Cubs tonight.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
The guesser, Wow, I bet that wasn't an accident, because
the Cubs draw anywhere they go, and I'll bet they
wanted to make sure they had a good crowd.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
So you get to the excitement of the home team
in a new town and all the Cubs people that
are gonna come out. So yeah, I wonder, I don't
know that's probably true. Anyway, it should be festive and
exciting coming up. Trump angry at Putin, Israel's tactics in
the so called refugee camps, which are really cities. They're
(10:32):
called refugee camps for political reasons, but Israel is emptying
them out. What next? And finally, what did I say earlier?
I was gonna do something else that's really really interesting. Oh,
Mike Waltz on thin thin ice in the White House,
the National Security Advisor who occasionally ropes liberal journalists into
his secret chats. Probably on the way out, we shall see.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
So how much melatonin should you take when you're trying
to get to sleep you or your case? I got
some info on that in just a second, because we've
been talking about that, but wanted to get this funny
thing on.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
First.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
There are at least three people in the world that
do dead on Trump appersonations. You got Sean Gillison, comedian,
You got the guy from SNL, and then this guy
who's big on Twitter. I don't know if anywhere else,
Sean Ferish. I wanted to tell you this is a
comedian because Trump is capable of saying any of these things.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So, but anyway, this is pretty funny.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Well, I just got done with a beautiful meeting with
the Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau. He sits when
he peas. He doesn't want you to know that, but
he does it. Everybody knows it, but you look at it.
I said, Justin, we're gonna slap you so hard with tariffs.
He said, sir, please don't talk dirty to me. You
know I love being slapped. I said, not like that. Justin,
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We're gonna hit you so hard with tariffs. Said, You're
not gonna know what hit you.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
You have to.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Close your border. You have to help us with our border.
He said, We're not gonna do it. I said, okay,
We're gonna cut off your supply of soy. He said, sir, please,
don't I need my soy? Justin Trudeau is the number
one consumer of soy in the entire world. He consumes
more soy than any nation or any man anybody ever
(12:10):
thought possible.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
He consumed so much soy. That is so good.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
That last part about the number one consumer of soy,
and then repeat it again and the way that Trump does, Yeah,
like why are you repeating this?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
But he says it again. Yeah, yeah, of any nation
or human art. That is a good Trump right there.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Trump says he had a good phone call with Trudeau
on Friday, but then over the weekend the new Prime
Minister said, this is the biggest fissure between Canada and
the United States in our history or something like that.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Well, yeah, Canada is like everybody's all fired up with
anti American rage and hatred. Elbows up is the U
the chant like the great Gordy Howe, mister Hockey, no more,
mister a nice guy. Elbow's up, elbows up. They're banning
American products from Stowe and the shelves of liquor stores,
(13:03):
for instance. Elbows up, don't poke the goose, Elbows up
A bunch of goose pokers? Am I wrong. All right.
We got more on that coming up later.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
So I've been struggling to sleep lately, and so I've
been talking about on the air, and then it turns
out statistically like half of people struggle to sleep. So
that's why it's such a multi billion dollar industry with
a bunch of products, real and or fake. Most of
them are phony. I think helping you get to sleep,
but you're desperate, so you'll try it. I know, I am.
Melatonin is real though it's something your body actually produces.
(13:34):
Helps you get to sleep, and then you try to
give yourself a little boost. And I've heard of a
lot of different stuff about how much you should take,
but they sell it, like at CBS. You can get
one milligram, you can get five milligrams, you can get
ten milligrams. I bought the container of ten milligrams and
I took two of them last night. I took one
to get me to sleep, but then I always wake
up at like one o'clock in the morning. Then I
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got another one sitting on the night stand. I take
that one when I wake up, and it's been putting
me back to sleep. That's been lately, all right, Elevis
or Michael Jackson. Right, so we got this, Hey, Jack,
I've done a lot of research into melatonin, which I
did take several years ago. Take one milligram if needed,
take one more milligram.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I took twenty.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Anything more than that can have the opposite effect. That's
when melatonin started working for me. Hard to find one
milligram tablets, but most people take too much. So that's interesting.
One milligram of melatonin actually works better than ten.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
So I'm willing to try that tonight. Yeah, that's interesting.
I don't know why that'd be biochemically, but it doesn't matter, No, no,
it doesn't. I know some people at some times caffeine
makes them sleepy. Yeah, anybody with ADHD those people?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Oh is that why reality is a stimulant? And the
caffeine energy drinks. I know several people like that that
drink that to calm down. Wow, Hull. And I think
my son might be that way. And he's been kind
of half diagnosed with some sort of attention thing, and
I haven't wanted to go down the road of medication
on that.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I just say pay attention.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
But energy drinks seem to have no effect on him
other than like mellowing him out.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So hmm, that's interesting. We got this.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
We talked about a good client of the Armstrong and
Getty show called in.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
He suggests an ice bath.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
He jumps in like a super cold water bath every
morning and then it like does something for his system
all day long.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
He's never slept better in his life. I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I just can't even imagine do that. Hey, Jack, I'm
with you in regard to a cold plunge. Couldn't do it.
I'd rather not sleep for the rest of my life
than get into a cold.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Bath for its seg in the morning, We're be sleepy
and miserable for six hours of the day. That's fine,
I'm used to it.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I put an infrared saun in my home fifteen minutes
in it before bed, and I sleep so much better,
many other proven health benefits. I don't know anything about
the infrared infrared sauna.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
That's new to me. All end up like a rotisserie dog, right,
convenience store. I'll try it out and wrinkle it costco chicken. Wow. Interesting, Yeah,
I guess I'm lucky. I just go to sleep generally
pretty well. I had my whole life up until a
couple months ago. Yeah, my wife struggles with the sleep,
same thing, wakes up. Can't get back to you said.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
We got a lot of emails about the ice bath thing.
You do people do that?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
It was like everything, Yay, great idea. No, that's the
last thing you want to do. The studies have shown,
I said, and't gain.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Any particutitting this studies as much as people who actually
do it or not. And this guy who we definitely
know and trust says it's made his life better.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I just no way I'm doing that.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I think at a point of a gun.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
First thing in the morning, you tell me to jump
into freezing water, I say, go ahead and shoot me.
I've had a good run.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It sounds like you're in that El Salvador prison with
all those gang members. You got to take an icy
cold shower every week or whatever.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I live in North Korea? Now, how did I end
up in a situation where I have to jump in
cold water?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So the fallout from the infamous signal chat is not
quite over yet. Mike Wallace's on sins and ice and
Putin and Trump's bromance, if it ever existed, may be over.
What is going on there? What is Trump's strategy, stay
with us, Armstrong and Getty. We don't have nine? Yes,
(17:15):
can we play that? We don't. We don't have it?
All right, well that's fine. We don't have that. It's
Anne nine platch. We do have it. Remember that. Now
we do have it. Now here we go. Ebone.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Fifteen minutes ago, I was ready to glass some hooty rebels.
Flag emoji, flag emoji, flag emoji, flag emoji, flag emoji,
fire emoji, egg plant. Where is this, Pete hexapt Secretary
of Defense? Oh, I got everyone sending a PDF with
updated locations of all our nuclear submarines. Check out what
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we got chilling right outside Shanghai. Jordan Peele sweating like crazy.
Gift hold up adding j D Now.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Nice fam females emoji? My bad meant to send fire emoji.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Okay, I not add Marco.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That was Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I'm mocking the idea of some sort of social media
style group text that, in this case on Saturday, and
I've accidentally included some high school girls who were involved
in there.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It was actually very and I thought it was funny too. Yeah.
You know what I cannot get a straight read on
is whether it was wildly inappropriate and idiotic to be
using signal or as Ratcliffe, the very serious head of
the CIA said, no, that was one of the first
things they loaded on my computers when I started. We
use it all the time, and I realized there was
the update maybe Russia could hack and there's conflicting info
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on that. But you have people saying polar opposite things. Well,
that's straight face.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I just it doesn't make sense to me that the
Secretary of State, the CIA director, the DNI, the SEC
deaf wouldn't all be on a.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Signal chat having those discussions.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
If it wasn't if even one of them said, waits like,
why are we having this conversation here?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Right?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
What?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Not a single one of them, right? That just seems
weird to me.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
So I lean toward thinking they have been doing it
rightly or wrongly or whatever. Now Elon is at the
CIA headquarters today in theory to discuss, you know, in
Elon supertech genius style, coming up with some sort of
new system that perhaps they could use that would be
more streamlined and safe, that that could be the future.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Right, Because one point of near universal agreement is that
the government systems are ridiculously outdated and cumbersome, and that's
why they used Signal for instance, which the Signal story,
the origin story is pretty interesting. It was started by
like super anti establishment hacker types, so you could have
encrypted communication one end to the other. No government could
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get a key, Nobody could, you know, figure out what
you're doing. And it's kind of funny that CIA guys
and the National Security team are using, you know, the
app developed by this purple haired chick who I'm sure
lists yourself is quasi quadrisexual or something like that, right,
you know what I mean. Well, the Signal people wanted
to get the news out.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Wait a second, Wait a second, everybody talking about this
is easy to hack. No, it's not right. You cannot
hack into our system. The fact that they, you know,
invited in somebody that shouldn't be on there's got nothing to.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Do with our security. So the interesting part of the
scandal to me is not the scandal itself. There's no
harm done. It's what will a fallout be in the
Trump administration, because there is going to be fallout. In
listening to some learned commentators who have a great deal
of sympathy for Mike Waltz's worldview, so they are not
(20:44):
magotypes with the hatchets out for Waltz, and there are
plenty of those, they said. One of the more pathetic
aspects of this is Waltz denying that he knew Jeffrey Goldberg,
that he'd ever met him, blah blah blah, because it's
clear that he added gold Berg's contact info to the
chat accidentally. Maybe he thought it was somebody else, but
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he absolutely had his contact info. And they have similar
views of foreign policy. I've heard, and I don't know,
so it seems a stretch. I don't know if we
have this clip.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
We're live at a baseball park today for the Athletics,
who we're having their home opener in Sacramento, and it's
kind of an interesting story. We'll talk about that later,
but anyway, we're at a ballpark. I don't know if
we have this clip. But walls set over the weekend,
he said, Jeffrey Goldberg's number got sucked in, but somebody
sent me a contact. Nobody has any idea what he
means by that. Oh, I got sucked in, that happened.
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What the hell does that mean?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
It's like, you remember when I texted you and Gavin
Newsom's contact info got sucked. No, nobody has any idea
what that means. Now.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I's done little research on his background, which we did
before when he originally got named.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
But he's a Green Beret.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I mean, he's all kinds of like super buttoned up, smart, successful, everything.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Is a serious man.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Why is he coming out saying I've never met Jeffrey Goldberg.
I've never talk to him on the phone. Okay, there
are pictures of you with him at events?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, yeah, I have a great deal of sympathy for that,
because we've been to so many events had pictures taken.
I mean, if somebody turned out to be some sort
of you know, axe murdering child molester, have you ever
met Gregory Gregorvich, I'd say I don't think so. No,
Then there's a picture nineteen ninety eight there you are
in a fundraiser with him. I'd be like, all right,
(22:26):
so I don't know. But anyway, So Waltz is on thin,
thin ice at the White House, apparently according to sources
who are leaking like a loose diaper to the Wall
Street General. Oh that's the worst one of those I've
ever heard. Was no rewind So anyway, Yeah, Waltz is
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on very very thin ice, and the only reason he's
still around is that Trump is really, really loath to
give the media and the left a trophy for their wall.
Of course, he remembers when he got rid of Mike
Flynn early on in term number one, and he came
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to regret that decision is vowed to never repeat it.
Two months into his new term, He's bragged about the
relative professionalism and efficacy of his current team, according to
Wall Street Journal, enjoying in particular of the absence of
news stories about careless mistakes. Trump wishes he had kept Flynn.
That's its own interesting story, or at least handled it differently.
Let's see, here's the but. Okay, but Walts has a
(23:35):
much more conservative or a traditional conservative Republican view of
foreign relations, projecting American power that sort of thing than
a lot of folks in magaworld. So again, according to
the Journal, Walts's ideological adversaries are pursuing an internal campaign
to remind the President that Walt's wasn't always aligned with him,
pointing out that Walts opposed to withdrawal of US forces
(23:56):
from Afghanistan Syria, supported America's defense of Ukraine worked on
national security legislation with then Representative Liz Cheney. Well, she
has a conservative Republican that's not saying much. Uh. Some
that's interesting though, here's the good part. Though. Some administration
officials also began circulating clips on Friday of Waltz making
particularly critical comments of Trump in the past, like a
(24:19):
twenty sixteen video of Walts criticizing Trump for not serving
in the Vietnam War and urging voters to stop Trump. Now.
That's folks within the White House are circulating those. Yeah,
but god dang it. I mean, can can you imagine
look at into work and there's like a big picture
on the bulletin board with a caption Trump is an
a hole Mike Waltz, whoa, that's but that's true of
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his secretary of State. That's true of lots.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Of people around him. Sure that said horrible things about
him back in the day. That's just and he loves that.
I think he enjoys that. Yes, that you said something
bad about me and now you're answering to me.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
He loves that dynamic. It's not yeah, I think he does.
The press always calls it bowing bending the knee to Trump,
but the guy won. I mean, like, that's unprecedented. You
go through the primaries taking hatchets to each other, which
your son learned to use, Yes, an axe hatchet, Yep,
he got his.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
It's not a merit badge, that's an activity badge or something.
He learned how to use a hatchet and an accent
camp over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Oh there you go anywhere? What was I? Oh, that's right.
So you get through the primary saying horrible things about
each other, then you unite at the convention with your
hands held high together.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
But I was just thinking, you reading off that list
of walls positions, Democrats, your cable lefty cable news channels
shouldn't be so excited about trying to drive walls out
of the administration.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
He's closer to their side that it's tribal, it's religious,
it's not fact based, it's not policy based. It's just
so dumb. Well else is on his side now, And
even though he agrees with me on a bunch of
stuff or is disagree with whatever, it doesn't matter. It's
just is this good for Trump or bad for Trump?
Which is a hell of a worldview. Yeah, I'd say
(26:02):
if Barack Obama's policies had made me rich. They didn't,
I would have thought, Oh, I think he's wrong about everything,
but let's keep doing that.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Go with So, this is Jeffrey Goldberg, who is a
really hardcore ideologue, lefty journalist with The Atlantic, as you
now know from the story, even if you'd never heard
of him before last week. But here's him being interviewed
yesterday on Meet the Press. I thought this was interesting.
Clip thirty Michael.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
My phone number was in his phone. Because my phone
number is in his phone. He's telling everyone that he's
never met me or spoken to me.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
That's simply not true.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
I understand why he's doing it, but you know, this
has become a somewhat farcical situation. There's no there's no
subterfuge here. My number was in his phone. He mistakenly
added me to the group chat.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
I thought it was interesting that he didn't he didn't
specifically say. Goldberg didn't specifically say we've talked on the
phone many times, or he's met me, unless know me,
leak relationship. But think you just state it what it is, right,
because otherwise it sounds to me like he's trying to
(27:20):
blur the lines between what you discussed. You're at some
big event together and you've met, but you wouldn't remember
it is.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, that statement was weirdly lawyer lie, Yeah, that's what
I think. People don't talk that way for no reason.
Oh yeah, exactly what are you covering that? That's because I.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Thought if he wanted to make his point, he would
say he's in I'm in his phone because we talk
on the phone all the time. He calls me, I
call him, or he texts me, or I text him.
He didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, he didn't explain the nature of the relationship at all.
I'm in his phone because I'm in his phone. What
does that mean? Anyway? Waltz is going to hang on
for at least a while. Who knows, maybe he can
rally his way back into the good graces of the
Orange One. Maybe.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Not The most interesting thing to me news wise around
any of this stuff was Trump, for the first time
bad mouthing putin yesterday in his phone call with Kristen
Welker of Meet the Press.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And I hadn't heard that. A couple hours before airtime.
Trump just said, I want to talk to you. Yeah, yeah,
why don't we talk about what he said about Putin
because this could have like history changing, It could be
a real inflection point in European history. Yeah, what the
world history if this deal does or does.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Not come to get It wasn't a recorded phone call.
She she just characterized what he said on the show
at the beginning, and we'll play that for you coming up.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Stay here.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Sci to say that they have developed a way of
making fan gros that does not involve force feeding ducks.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Wow, that's great, said ducks. What about the murder?
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I thought that was pretty funny. So the most interesting
thing that has happened around Ukraine Russia Trump yet, in
my mind, well since that.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oval Office meeting. Anyway, that was something. Here's the way
Christian Welker described it on Meet the Press.
Speaker 8 (29:14):
Yesterday, President Trump called me to tell me, quote, I
was very angry, pissed off when Putin started getting into
Zelenski's credibility and started talking about new leadership in Ukraine.
On Iran, the President said he's also considering secondary tariffs
if Iran doesn't agree to a nuclear deal. Quote, if
they don't make a deal, there will be bombing.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Both of those are pretty damned interesting. So he was.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
He says he's pissed off at Putin, which is certainly
the strongest language he's ever had around Putin.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
sureI.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
And then on the Iran thing, if they don't come around,
there will be bombing.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
That sort of thing used to get so much attention.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
It doesn't as much with Trump because he says over
the top stuff all the time time. But we'll save
the Iran thing for now. Here's the Washington Post version
of this. So Trump calls up Welker, the host, to
meet the pression, talks to her on the phone. Apparently
she didn't record it, because there's no audio of this.
It's just her telling the story. Basically, Trump said Sunday
(30:16):
he was angry at Russian President Putin, and he said, actually,
I'm pissed off when Putin said yesterday that you know,
when Putin started getting into Zelensky's credibility, because that's not
going in the right direction, you understand, Trump said, in
a phone interview with Christen Welker.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Wow, let's stop there for a second. So Trump's mental
framework of this, obviously is that Zelensky is legit, he's
the leader of Ukraine. He's agreed to negotiate. We're going
to negotiate and you and I'm picturing it like in
terms of a golf course, building, a hotel development or
(30:52):
something like that. And Putin comes in and is undermining
the other partner, and Trump says, we're not having it,
which is really into interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Trump said he would consider putting secondary tariffs on Russian
oil or penalties on other countries that buy oil from
Russia if he and Putin couldn't come to terms and
stopping the bloodshed in Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
In Ukraine, if I think it was Russia's fault.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Here's the quote that would be that if you buy
oil from Russia, you can't do business in the United States.
There will be a twenty five percent tariff on all
on all oil, a twenty five to fifty point tariff
on all oil. Trump said He also said he plans
to speak to Putin this week. The comment's saying the
Washington Post is saying this. The comments mark a change
from a softer approach towards Russia and its president than
(31:35):
Trump took in his first two months of his new administration.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Which seemed clear at the time and is now undeniably
just pre negotiation flattering of people, just you know, keeping
everything smooth. Correct me if I'm wrong Trump, and this
is not you know, in sync with his reputation. Certainly
Trump is actually horrified by the loss of life and
(31:59):
is extremely motivated to end it. It's not calculated, geopolitical,
you know, seventeen dimensional chess. He doesn't want any more
people to die. Well, that's the way jd. Vance put
it over the weekend. Uh huh. Yeah, I don't know
which is lovely and admirable, depending on what that motivates
(32:21):
you to do. I mean, if Putin's senses because Putin
doesn't care if five million people die, five million of
his own people exactly. Yeah, yeah, stole my thought. And
so if he senses that Trump can be manipulated through
you know, sentimentality or you know, the normal concern for
human life, he will exploit that as much as he
(32:43):
possibly can. This is so unlike any other process I've
ever seen in trying to settle an issue like this,
a conflict like this.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Well, I think it's going to get damned interesting. Now
he says he's going to talk to Putin this week.
I can't imagine where this is going from from here.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Well, clearly Trump is reasonably or comfortable with just brute
economic force against putin the whole there, it's a romance.
He's a Russian stooge thing. It doesn't look like it now,
although we'll have to see how it unfolds. I don't
think he is the other aspect of this that is
just crazy. The most transparent White House by a million
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miles in recent history. Trump calls he doesn't have some
anonymous source familiar with the president's thinking. He just says, hey, Kristin,
Donald Trump, here, here's what I'm thinking about all this stuff. Right,
don't record it, but you can talk about all of
it anything you want. And he bends her air for
a while says, that's what I'm thinking. Good to talk
(33:45):
to you. Seeah, Kristin welker of all people, but he
knows how to get the word out to DC. Well,
he's an old man too.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
He still sees meet the press is the place to
get you know, information out.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
True, and she's you know, attractive, that's true. Oh my god,
that's an interesting development in this story. Yeah, i'd say,
where does it end. Well, you can cite like any
similar attempt at a conflict resolution in the last thirty years.
(34:17):
An I or you know, anybody who someone knows what
they're talking about, could describe you the dynamics involved in
who's going to have to give on what? What are
the questions that have to be answered? Blah blah blah.
Here's how it's probably going to go. This one completely
up in the air. Well, no idea. The putin part's
getting all the attention.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
But what he said about Iran, you agree to this
what we're talking about with the nuclear deal, get rid
of your nuclear programmer, the.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Bombs will fall. I mean there was no fair enough.
It was pretty clear cut. Yeah, who needs strategic ambiguity?
Will bomb you?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Exactly? Okay, we got a couple more hours ago. If
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm sure you're tired of talking about the high speed Reel,
but it was passed in twenty nineteen. You said, let's
be real, the current project as planned would cost too much, respectfully,
take too long. Right now, there simply isn't the path
to get from Sacramento to San Diego. Well, there's a path,
it's the highway.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Now.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
That's Bill Maher talking with Gavin Newsom, Governer of California
Friday night on his HBO show.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Or one of several airlines that are delighted to bring
you to and fro for a bargain fee. Right, I
haven't watched that yet. How tough was mare on him? Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Gavin, I'm sure scrambling to try to get on that
show because he is trying to position himself as the
moderate Democrat as Poles show, that's what most Democrats want,
regardless of what the media thinks.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And he's running away from his entire careerer has to.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Go.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You can't do it, do something else.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
With your time, you end up with an authenticity problem,
which is part of what hurt Kamala Harris. But anyway,
let's hear this conversation from Friday night's HBO show.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
My Roof, the roof? My is this the solar? Is
this about to the solar? After the fire? It's always
about the solar, after the after the fire, new roof.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And they suggested, you know, get the stuff. It's not okay,
two inspections I needed to have. Why it's my roof,
if it's if it falls on.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
My head, that's my problem. That's it. That's it. That's
the statement. That's my question. Why do I.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Need two inspections which I have to pay for? Yeah,
you were here last time we talked about regulations. You said, oh,
it's a completely new day.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well no wait wait wait, it's a quart from you.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Completely new day. So you were working on.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
By the way, and last week you had Ezra client on,
which was incredibly important. We have a book called Abundance
which really lays out a very condemning picture of liberal
governance in this country and the fact that we are
process focused and not outcome focused. And your demonstrable example
of that is related to what you've tried to do
with your damn roof for the last fifteen years, and
(02:35):
so it's our job to eliminate as many of those thickets.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
How's that going as possible?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
It's I like the crowd laughing at that question, how's
that going? As in obviously it's not going very well,
or or you're completely I almost dropped it as bump,
or you're completely full of crap.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah. I have said many times Gavin has no beliefs,
and he's utterly soulless. He is very very smart, though,
and very canny in listening to that quoting Ezra Klein
and the rest of it. If anybody can run against
his entire career and every single thing he's ever done,
it might be Gavvy. I don't think he can do
(03:16):
that successfully, but he has an amazing way of saying, Yeah,
that's the challenge we're trying to deal with. I tell
you what I get in the Governor's office. I see
all these regulations and I think this has got to end.
We got to empower the businesses to succeed. And you're like,
wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, where have you been?
Who are you? It's like in Superman change turns evil
(03:40):
in that one movie. It's disconcerting but opposite. But yeah,
so he's I don't know, I don't know. Can he possibly? Oh,
I was gonna say, bamboozle enough people to get himself
elected president? Depends who the Republicans run. Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Two quick things when we got this text, The average
a Mayorrian man is fatter than the average American pig.
That's all they said, no context. I don't know if
that's like a body fat.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Percentage, So the average American pig could fit in my
pants easily or what.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I don't know what that means. The average American man
is fatter than the average American pet pig.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
In terms of like ideal weight versus reality. I guess anyway,
you know, fat is a pig? Are our pigs especially
fat in the animal kingdom? I don't think so. I mean,
if they're, like, you know, being raised for bacon or something,
they probably are. But I look at a pig and
I don't say, look at that fat ass. I just
(04:43):
think you pleasantly rounded. Where did fat is a pig
come from? No, they're not fatter because the way they eat. Maybe,
of course that expression probably came about when the average
man weighed one hundred and eighteen pounds thin as a rail.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Okay, away from that, so we got I saw this
in the New York Times. This is a New York
Times article today. Sacramento is ready for its Major League moment.
Just don't say Sacramento. The Athletics temporarily have moved to
California's capital region, but insisted on avoiding references to Sacramento.
Residents who are thrilled to have MLB games are used
to such slights. It says Aaron, we are at the
(05:17):
very stadium the New York Times is writing about right now,
broadcasting live as it is opening day for the They
just call themselves the A's or the Athletics. If I
say Sacramento A's, do I get in trouble?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Oh my god, God, they'll club us. They'll nights stick
us for saying that. Don't say that. Why did they
not want that? I'm sure they could explain it to you.
Because they didn't want to alienate Oakland fans. They didn't
want to alienate Oakland.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Last Vegas secular, going eleven thousand people showing up to
each game last year on.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
A good day Yeah, I don't know, you'd have to
ask them. I think it's they want to be the
team for the region.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Jack, I'm guessing it's because if I've spent gazillions of
dollars for the Las Vegas A's, I don't don't be
rebranding them something else before you bring them here, right.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I just think they're trying not to tread on any toes.
But our longtime flagship station for the talk show happens
to be the flagship for the athletics for the next
three years, and so they asked us to come out
and help celebrate the opening day. That's why we're at
a ballpark to do a talk show, you know. Back
to the gaven Usom thing briefly. Jack a little earlier
was telling the tale of trying to get an individual
(06:24):
bottle of water at a convenience store in cal Unicornia
and was told by the cleric.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
The law, as Katie informed us, that was passed once
you say, like three years ago, has finally been implemented.
You can't buy a single use water bottle.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
So if you stop at the Comedian store and you're thirsty,
you can't walk in and buy a little bottle of
water like you have with you and your family every
time you've stopped on vacation.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Everywhere in America, you can buy literally five hundred and
forty different beverages at your average big company.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Most of them will kill you over time. They're horrible
for you or turn you into it a degenerate drunk,
and they're in a plastic bottle. Right, but you can't
buy water or an aluminum can or whatever. Yeah, that's right,
And Gavy's gonna run against that record.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I tell you too many regulations. I fought this, and
we'll fight it till America becomes the great place that
can no, no, no, you can't beat me and then
decry violence with your fist still bloody. You lying.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So add to the list with gas cans and lawnmowers,
and there's just a gazillion things you could come up with.
If you're thirsty and you're coming into California, make sure
you buy a bottle of water in Arizona or Nevada
or Oregon before you get into California, because it's against
the law.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Hilarious. You've got heroin attics sleeping in the park, selling
drugs openly with pig bulls running around and your little
kid can't play there. Yeah, and you let that happen me.
You can't buy a bottle of water? What the freaking hell?
Irons one bell too many? It's a real challenge. We're
(08:01):
trying to reduce regulations to deal with this issue that
was visited upon us from heaven. I had nothing to
do with it. Unbelievable that it really is unbelievable. Yeah,
cal Unicornia, Hi Karamba.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I would think if Gavin Newsom runs for president, I
would think the first of all, you'd have to get
the nomination and that fight could be pretty brutal. But
the number one thing you'd hit him with is people
are leaving your state for the first time in its history.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, one of the most beautiful, dynamic places on the
face of God's Earth.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
You reach a limit where, oh wait, I can't get
a normal lawnmower like you can in other states, or
I can't buy a guess can, or now I can't
even buy a bottle of water.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Mean, the family's thirsty. You finally and the taxes are insane.
You finally decid you know what going somewhere else, and
lots of people are and then you hear the announcement
that we're going to be the World Center for Confused parents,
bringing their teenagers here to have cruel sex change experiments
done on them, a medical procedure a child could never
consent to. Can't buy a pack of smokes, but we're
(09:05):
gonna alter their genitals or feed them powerful hormones because
they're momentarily confused. And you think, Nope, not going to
be a party to it.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
So Trump did an interview with the host to Meet
the Press right before the show yesterday and said some
wild stuff, really interesting, newsmaking stuff that we ought to
get to at some point.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Owing from the world to ATHPT. The Trump Putin bromance
is off good.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
But I do want to talk about some of the
sleep stuff we discussed on Friday. We got a text
from somebody who's done a lot of research on melatonin.
According to him, I took twenty times the recommended now
amount last night.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Is that too much? I wonder your eye is bulging.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Just go on.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I know I can't hear out of my right eye.
It's not good. All this on the way, stay tuned.
A lot of music's getting excited.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
We're sitting at a Major League ballpark, as the sun
has come up and the.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
The A's play the Cubs tonight.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
The guesser, Wow, I bet that wasn't an accident, because
the Cubs draw anywhere they go, and I'll bet they
wanted to make sure they had a good crowd.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
So you get to the excitement of the home team
in a new town and all the Cubs people that
are gonna come out. So yeah, I wonder, I don't
know that's probably true. Anyway, it should be festive and
exciting coming up. Trump angry at Putin, Israel's tactics in
the so called refugee camps, which are really cities. They're
(10:32):
called refugee camps for political reasons, but Israel is emptying
them out. What next? And finally, what did I say earlier?
I was gonna do something else that's really really interesting. Oh,
Mike Waltz on thin thin ice in the White House,
the National Security Advisor who occasionally ropes liberal journalists into
his secret chats. Probably on the way out, we shall see.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
So how much melatonin should you take when you're trying
to get to sleep you or your case? I got
some info on that in just a second, because we've
been talking about that, but wanted to get this funny
thing on.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
First.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
There are at least three people in the world that
do dead on Trump appersonations. You got Sean Gillison, comedian,
You got the guy from SNL, and then this guy
who's big on Twitter. I don't know if anywhere else,
Sean Ferish. I wanted to tell you this is a
comedian because Trump is capable of saying any of these things.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So, but anyway, this is pretty funny.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Well, I just got done with a beautiful meeting with
the Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau. He sits when
he peas. He doesn't want you to know that, but
he does it. Everybody knows it, but you look at it.
I said, Justin, we're gonna slap you so hard with tariffs.
He said, sir, please don't talk dirty to me. You
know I love being slapped. I said, not like that. Justin,
(11:45):
We're gonna hit you so hard with tariffs. Said, You're
not gonna know what hit you.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
You have to.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Close your border. You have to help us with our border.
He said, We're not gonna do it. I said, okay,
We're gonna cut off your supply of soy. He said, sir, please,
don't I need my soy? Justin Trudeau is the number
one consumer of soy in the entire world. He consumes
more soy than any nation or any man anybody ever
(12:10):
thought possible.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
He consumed so much soy. That is so good.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
That last part about the number one consumer of soy,
and then repeat it again and the way that Trump does, Yeah,
like why are you repeating this?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
But he says it again. Yeah, yeah, of any nation
or human art. That is a good Trump right there.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Trump says he had a good phone call with Trudeau
on Friday, but then over the weekend the new Prime
Minister said, this is the biggest fissure between Canada and
the United States in our history or something like that.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Well, yeah, Canada is like everybody's all fired up with
anti American rage and hatred. Elbows up is the U
the chant like the great Gordy Howe, mister Hockey, no more,
mister a nice guy. Elbow's up, elbows up. They're banning
American products from Stowe and the shelves of liquor stores,
(13:03):
for instance. Elbows up, don't poke the goose, Elbows up
A bunch of goose pokers? Am I wrong. All right.
We got more on that coming up later.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
So I've been struggling to sleep lately, and so I've
been talking about on the air, and then it turns
out statistically like half of people struggle to sleep. So
that's why it's such a multi billion dollar industry with
a bunch of products, real and or fake. Most of
them are phony. I think helping you get to sleep,
but you're desperate, so you'll try it. I know, I am.
Melatonin is real though it's something your body actually produces.
(13:34):
Helps you get to sleep, and then you try to
give yourself a little boost. And I've heard of a
lot of different stuff about how much you should take,
but they sell it, like at CBS. You can get
one milligram, you can get five milligrams, you can get
ten milligrams. I bought the container of ten milligrams and
I took two of them last night. I took one
to get me to sleep, but then I always wake
up at like one o'clock in the morning. Then I
(13:55):
got another one sitting on the night stand. I take
that one when I wake up, and it's been putting
me back to sleep. That's been lately, all right, Elevis
or Michael Jackson. Right, so we got this, Hey, Jack,
I've done a lot of research into melatonin, which I
did take several years ago. Take one milligram if needed,
take one more milligram.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I took twenty.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Anything more than that can have the opposite effect. That's
when melatonin started working for me. Hard to find one
milligram tablets, but most people take too much. So that's interesting.
One milligram of melatonin actually works better than ten.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
So I'm willing to try that tonight. Yeah, that's interesting.
I don't know why that'd be biochemically, but it doesn't matter, No, no,
it doesn't. I know some people at some times caffeine
makes them sleepy. Yeah, anybody with ADHD those people?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Oh is that why reality is a stimulant? And the
caffeine energy drinks. I know several people like that that
drink that to calm down. Wow, Hull. And I think
my son might be that way. And he's been kind
of half diagnosed with some sort of attention thing, and
I haven't wanted to go down the road of medication
on that.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I just say pay attention.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
But energy drinks seem to have no effect on him
other than like mellowing him out.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So hmm, that's interesting. We got this.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
We talked about a good client of the Armstrong and
Getty show called in.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
He suggests an ice bath.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
He jumps in like a super cold water bath every
morning and then it like does something for his system
all day long.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
He's never slept better in his life. I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I just can't even imagine do that. Hey, Jack, I'm
with you in regard to a cold plunge. Couldn't do it.
I'd rather not sleep for the rest of my life
than get into a cold.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Bath for its seg in the morning, We're be sleepy
and miserable for six hours of the day. That's fine,
I'm used to it.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I put an infrared saun in my home fifteen minutes
in it before bed, and I sleep so much better,
many other proven health benefits. I don't know anything about
the infrared infrared sauna.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
That's new to me. All end up like a rotisserie dog, right,
convenience store. I'll try it out and wrinkle it costco chicken. Wow. Interesting, Yeah,
I guess I'm lucky. I just go to sleep generally
pretty well. I had my whole life up until a
couple months ago. Yeah, my wife struggles with the sleep,
same thing, wakes up. Can't get back to you said.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
We got a lot of emails about the ice bath thing.
You do people do that?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
It was like everything, Yay, great idea. No, that's the
last thing you want to do. The studies have shown,
I said, and't gain.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Any particutitting this studies as much as people who actually
do it or not. And this guy who we definitely
know and trust says it's made his life better.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I just no way I'm doing that.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I think at a point of a gun.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
First thing in the morning, you tell me to jump
into freezing water, I say, go ahead and shoot me.
I've had a good run.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It sounds like you're in that El Salvador prison with
all those gang members. You got to take an icy
cold shower every week or whatever.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I live in North Korea? Now, how did I end
up in a situation where I have to jump in
cold water?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So the fallout from the infamous signal chat is not
quite over yet. Mike Wallace's on sins and ice and
Putin and Trump's bromance, if it ever existed, may be over.
What is going on there? What is Trump's strategy, stay
with us, Armstrong and Getty. We don't have nine? Yes,
(17:15):
can we play that? We don't. We don't have it?
All right, well that's fine. We don't have that. It's
Anne nine platch. We do have it. Remember that. Now
we do have it. Now here we go. Ebone.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Fifteen minutes ago, I was ready to glass some hooty rebels.
Flag emoji, flag emoji, flag emoji, flag emoji, flag emoji,
fire emoji, egg plant. Where is this, Pete hexapt Secretary
of Defense? Oh, I got everyone sending a PDF with
updated locations of all our nuclear submarines. Check out what
(17:50):
we got chilling right outside Shanghai. Jordan Peele sweating like crazy.
Gift hold up adding j D Now.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Nice fam females emoji? My bad meant to send fire emoji.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Okay, I not add Marco.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That was Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I'm mocking the idea of some sort of social media
style group text that, in this case on Saturday, and
I've accidentally included some high school girls who were involved
in there.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It was actually very and I thought it was funny too. Yeah.
You know what I cannot get a straight read on
is whether it was wildly inappropriate and idiotic to be
using signal or as Ratcliffe, the very serious head of
the CIA said, no, that was one of the first
things they loaded on my computers when I started. We
use it all the time, and I realized there was
the update maybe Russia could hack and there's conflicting info
(18:46):
on that. But you have people saying polar opposite things. Well,
that's straight face.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I just it doesn't make sense to me that the
Secretary of State, the CIA director, the DNI, the SEC
deaf wouldn't all be on a.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Signal chat having those discussions.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
If it wasn't if even one of them said, waits like,
why are we having this conversation here?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Right?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
What?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Not a single one of them, right? That just seems
weird to me.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
So I lean toward thinking they have been doing it
rightly or wrongly or whatever. Now Elon is at the
CIA headquarters today in theory to discuss, you know, in
Elon supertech genius style, coming up with some sort of
new system that perhaps they could use that would be
more streamlined and safe, that that could be the future.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Right, Because one point of near universal agreement is that
the government systems are ridiculously outdated and cumbersome, and that's
why they used Signal for instance, which the Signal story,
the origin story is pretty interesting. It was started by
like super anti establishment hacker types, so you could have
encrypted communication one end to the other. No government could
(19:55):
get a key, Nobody could, you know, figure out what
you're doing. And it's kind of funny that CIA guys
and the National Security team are using, you know, the
app developed by this purple haired chick who I'm sure
lists yourself is quasi quadrisexual or something like that, right,
you know what I mean. Well, the Signal people wanted
to get the news out.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Wait a second, Wait a second, everybody talking about this
is easy to hack. No, it's not right. You cannot
hack into our system. The fact that they, you know,
invited in somebody that shouldn't be on there's got nothing to.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Do with our security. So the interesting part of the
scandal to me is not the scandal itself. There's no
harm done. It's what will a fallout be in the
Trump administration, because there is going to be fallout. In
listening to some learned commentators who have a great deal
of sympathy for Mike Waltz's worldview, so they are not
(20:44):
magotypes with the hatchets out for Waltz, and there are
plenty of those, they said. One of the more pathetic
aspects of this is Waltz denying that he knew Jeffrey Goldberg,
that he'd ever met him, blah blah blah, because it's
clear that he added gold Berg's contact info to the
chat accidentally. Maybe he thought it was somebody else, but
(21:05):
he absolutely had his contact info. And they have similar
views of foreign policy. I've heard, and I don't know,
so it seems a stretch. I don't know if we
have this clip.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
We're live at a baseball park today for the Athletics,
who we're having their home opener in Sacramento, and it's
kind of an interesting story. We'll talk about that later,
but anyway, we're at a ballpark. I don't know if
we have this clip. But walls set over the weekend,
he said, Jeffrey Goldberg's number got sucked in, but somebody
sent me a contact. Nobody has any idea what he
means by that. Oh, I got sucked in, that happened.
(21:35):
What the hell does that mean?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
It's like, you remember when I texted you and Gavin
Newsom's contact info got sucked. No, nobody has any idea
what that means. Now.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I's done little research on his background, which we did
before when he originally got named.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
But he's a Green Beret.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I mean, he's all kinds of like super buttoned up, smart, successful, everything.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Is a serious man.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Why is he coming out saying I've never met Jeffrey Goldberg.
I've never talk to him on the phone. Okay, there
are pictures of you with him at events?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, yeah, I have a great deal of sympathy for that,
because we've been to so many events had pictures taken.
I mean, if somebody turned out to be some sort
of you know, axe murdering child molester, have you ever
met Gregory Gregorvich, I'd say I don't think so. No,
Then there's a picture nineteen ninety eight there you are
in a fundraiser with him. I'd be like, all right,
(22:26):
so I don't know. But anyway, So Waltz is on thin,
thin ice at the White House, apparently according to sources
who are leaking like a loose diaper to the Wall
Street General. Oh that's the worst one of those I've
ever heard. Was no rewind So anyway, Yeah, Waltz is
(22:49):
on very very thin ice, and the only reason he's
still around is that Trump is really, really loath to
give the media and the left a trophy for their wall.
Of course, he remembers when he got rid of Mike
Flynn early on in term number one, and he came
(23:10):
to regret that decision is vowed to never repeat it.
Two months into his new term, He's bragged about the
relative professionalism and efficacy of his current team, according to
Wall Street Journal, enjoying in particular of the absence of
news stories about careless mistakes. Trump wishes he had kept Flynn.
That's its own interesting story, or at least handled it differently.
Let's see, here's the but. Okay, but Walts has a
(23:35):
much more conservative or a traditional conservative Republican view of
foreign relations, projecting American power that sort of thing than
a lot of folks in magaworld. So again, according to
the Journal, Walts's ideological adversaries are pursuing an internal campaign
to remind the President that Walt's wasn't always aligned with him,
pointing out that Walts opposed to withdrawal of US forces
(23:56):
from Afghanistan Syria, supported America's defense of Ukraine worked on
national security legislation with then Representative Liz Cheney. Well, she
has a conservative Republican that's not saying much. Uh. Some
that's interesting though, here's the good part. Though. Some administration
officials also began circulating clips on Friday of Waltz making
particularly critical comments of Trump in the past, like a
(24:19):
twenty sixteen video of Walts criticizing Trump for not serving
in the Vietnam War and urging voters to stop Trump. Now.
That's folks within the White House are circulating those. Yeah,
but god dang it. I mean, can can you imagine
look at into work and there's like a big picture
on the bulletin board with a caption Trump is an
a hole Mike Waltz, whoa, that's but that's true of
(24:40):
his secretary of State. That's true of lots.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Of people around him. Sure that said horrible things about
him back in the day. That's just and he loves that.
I think he enjoys that. Yes, that you said something
bad about me and now you're answering to me.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
He loves that dynamic. It's not yeah, I think he does.
The press always calls it bowing bending the knee to Trump,
but the guy won. I mean, like, that's unprecedented. You
go through the primaries taking hatchets to each other, which
your son learned to use, Yes, an axe hatchet, Yep,
he got his.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
It's not a merit badge, that's an activity badge or something.
He learned how to use a hatchet and an accent
camp over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Oh there you go anywhere? What was I? Oh, that's right.
So you get through the primary saying horrible things about
each other, then you unite at the convention with your
hands held high together.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
But I was just thinking, you reading off that list
of walls positions, Democrats, your cable lefty cable news channels
shouldn't be so excited about trying to drive walls out
of the administration.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
He's closer to their side that it's tribal, it's religious,
it's not fact based, it's not policy based. It's just
so dumb. Well else is on his side now, And
even though he agrees with me on a bunch of
stuff or is disagree with whatever, it doesn't matter. It's
just is this good for Trump or bad for Trump?
Which is a hell of a worldview. Yeah, I'd say
(26:02):
if Barack Obama's policies had made me rich. They didn't,
I would have thought, Oh, I think he's wrong about everything,
but let's keep doing that.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Go with So, this is Jeffrey Goldberg, who is a
really hardcore ideologue, lefty journalist with The Atlantic, as you
now know from the story, even if you'd never heard
of him before last week. But here's him being interviewed
yesterday on Meet the Press. I thought this was interesting.
Clip thirty Michael.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
My phone number was in his phone. Because my phone
number is in his phone. He's telling everyone that he's
never met me or spoken to me.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
That's simply not true.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
I understand why he's doing it, but you know, this
has become a somewhat farcical situation. There's no there's no
subterfuge here. My number was in his phone. He mistakenly
added me to the group chat.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
I thought it was interesting that he didn't he didn't
specifically say. Goldberg didn't specifically say we've talked on the
phone many times, or he's met me, unless know me,
leak relationship. But think you just state it what it is, right,
because otherwise it sounds to me like he's trying to
(27:20):
blur the lines between what you discussed. You're at some
big event together and you've met, but you wouldn't remember
it is.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, that statement was weirdly lawyer lie, Yeah, that's what
I think. People don't talk that way for no reason.
Oh yeah, exactly what are you covering that? That's because I.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Thought if he wanted to make his point, he would
say he's in I'm in his phone because we talk
on the phone all the time. He calls me, I
call him, or he texts me, or I text him.
He didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, he didn't explain the nature of the relationship at all.
I'm in his phone because I'm in his phone. What
does that mean? Anyway? Waltz is going to hang on
for at least a while. Who knows, maybe he can
rally his way back into the good graces of the
Orange One. Maybe.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Not The most interesting thing to me news wise around
any of this stuff was Trump, for the first time
bad mouthing putin yesterday in his phone call with Kristen
Welker of Meet the Press.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And I hadn't heard that. A couple hours before airtime.
Trump just said, I want to talk to you. Yeah, yeah,
why don't we talk about what he said about Putin
because this could have like history changing, It could be
a real inflection point in European history. Yeah, what the
world history if this deal does or does.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Not come to get It wasn't a recorded phone call.
She she just characterized what he said on the show
at the beginning, and we'll play that for you coming up.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Stay here.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Sci to say that they have developed a way of
making fan gros that does not involve force feeding ducks.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Wow, that's great, said ducks. What about the murder?
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I thought that was pretty funny. So the most interesting
thing that has happened around Ukraine Russia Trump yet, in
my mind, well since that.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oval Office meeting. Anyway, that was something. Here's the way
Christian Welker described it on Meet the Press.
Speaker 8 (29:14):
Yesterday, President Trump called me to tell me, quote, I
was very angry, pissed off when Putin started getting into
Zelenski's credibility and started talking about new leadership in Ukraine.
On Iran, the President said he's also considering secondary tariffs
if Iran doesn't agree to a nuclear deal. Quote, if
they don't make a deal, there will be bombing.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Both of those are pretty damned interesting. So he was.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
He says he's pissed off at Putin, which is certainly
the strongest language he's ever had around Putin.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
sureI.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
And then on the Iran thing, if they don't come around,
there will be bombing.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
That sort of thing used to get so much attention.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
It doesn't as much with Trump because he says over
the top stuff all the time time. But we'll save
the Iran thing for now. Here's the Washington Post version
of this. So Trump calls up Welker, the host, to
meet the pression, talks to her on the phone. Apparently
she didn't record it, because there's no audio of this.
It's just her telling the story. Basically, Trump said Sunday
(30:16):
he was angry at Russian President Putin, and he said, actually,
I'm pissed off when Putin said yesterday that you know,
when Putin started getting into Zelensky's credibility, because that's not
going in the right direction, you understand, Trump said, in
a phone interview with Christen Welker.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Wow, let's stop there for a second. So Trump's mental
framework of this, obviously is that Zelensky is legit, he's
the leader of Ukraine. He's agreed to negotiate. We're going
to negotiate and you and I'm picturing it like in
terms of a golf course, building, a hotel development or
(30:52):
something like that. And Putin comes in and is undermining
the other partner, and Trump says, we're not having it,
which is really into interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Trump said he would consider putting secondary tariffs on Russian
oil or penalties on other countries that buy oil from
Russia if he and Putin couldn't come to terms and
stopping the bloodshed in Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
In Ukraine, if I think it was Russia's fault.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Here's the quote that would be that if you buy
oil from Russia, you can't do business in the United States.
There will be a twenty five percent tariff on all
on all oil, a twenty five to fifty point tariff
on all oil. Trump said He also said he plans
to speak to Putin this week. The comment's saying the
Washington Post is saying this. The comments mark a change
from a softer approach towards Russia and its president than
(31:35):
Trump took in his first two months of his new administration.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Which seemed clear at the time and is now undeniably
just pre negotiation flattering of people, just you know, keeping
everything smooth. Correct me if I'm wrong Trump, and this
is not you know, in sync with his reputation. Certainly
Trump is actually horrified by the loss of life and
(31:59):
is extremely motivated to end it. It's not calculated, geopolitical,
you know, seventeen dimensional chess. He doesn't want any more
people to die. Well, that's the way jd. Vance put
it over the weekend. Uh huh. Yeah, I don't know
which is lovely and admirable, depending on what that motivates
(32:21):
you to do. I mean, if Putin's senses because Putin
doesn't care if five million people die, five million of
his own people exactly. Yeah, yeah, stole my thought. And
so if he senses that Trump can be manipulated through
you know, sentimentality or you know, the normal concern for
human life, he will exploit that as much as he
(32:43):
possibly can. This is so unlike any other process I've
ever seen in trying to settle an issue like this,
a conflict like this.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Well, I think it's going to get damned interesting. Now
he says he's going to talk to Putin this week.
I can't imagine where this is going from from here.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Well, clearly Trump is reasonably or comfortable with just brute
economic force against putin the whole there, it's a romance.
He's a Russian stooge thing. It doesn't look like it now,
although we'll have to see how it unfolds. I don't
think he is the other aspect of this that is
just crazy. The most transparent White House by a million
(33:23):
miles in recent history. Trump calls he doesn't have some
anonymous source familiar with the president's thinking. He just says, hey, Kristin,
Donald Trump, here, here's what I'm thinking about all this stuff. Right,
don't record it, but you can talk about all of
it anything you want. And he bends her air for
a while says, that's what I'm thinking. Good to talk
(33:45):
to you. Seeah, Kristin welker of all people, but he
knows how to get the word out to DC. Well,
he's an old man too.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
He still sees meet the press is the place to
get you know, information out.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
True, and she's you know, attractive, that's true. Oh my god,
that's an interesting development in this story. Yeah, i'd say,
where does it end. Well, you can cite like any
similar attempt at a conflict resolution in the last thirty years.
(34:17):
An I or you know, anybody who someone knows what
they're talking about, could describe you the dynamics involved in
who's going to have to give on what? What are
the questions that have to be answered? Blah blah blah.
Here's how it's probably going to go. This one completely
up in the air. Well, no idea. The putin part's
getting all the attention.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
But what he said about Iran, you agree to this
what we're talking about with the nuclear deal, get rid
of your nuclear programmer, the.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Bombs will fall. I mean there was no fair enough.
It was pretty clear cut. Yeah, who needs strategic ambiguity?
Will bomb you?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Exactly? Okay, we got a couple more hours ago. If
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