April 11, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- The market reacting to tariffs & the world economy
- Jack can't drink out of his mug in his car
- Mike Lyons talks to Jack Armstrong
- The world's tallest mouth & Jack's attempts to break a record
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty, I know he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
The next steps for China, sir, Well, we'll see what
happens with China. We would love to be able to
work a deal. They've really taken advantage of our country
for a long period of time. They've ripped us off
beyond anybody, nobody. How people stood for it, sitting in
(00:44):
my position is not even believable. And we're talking about
many presidents, not just in a couple, but they did,
and Alwadi is putting it back in shape. We're resetting
the table.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
So that's from a cabinet meeting that they had yesterday.
We got some more audio from from that coming up
in just a second. But in case you're not hipped
to a couple of the developments that happened in the
last twenty four hours. The market was reacting and people
were talking about tariffs on all Chinese goods being at
one hundred and twenty five percent I think anyway, Trump
(01:19):
pointed out later in the day, No, no, it's actually
one hundred and forty five percent. So I'm adding this
to the other thing that I had like a month
ago or whatever. So the tariff on all Chinese goods
coming into the United States, the stuff on all the
shelves and Walmart or the buy on Amazon that's from China,
one hundred and forty five percent right now. And as
soon as that news was clarified, the Dow tumbled quite
(01:41):
a bit yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
As everybody caught onto that.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
And then overnight tariff China announced they're raising their tariff
on all US goods coming into their country to one
hundred and twenty five percent, So one hundred and forty
five coming to the US one hundred and twenty five
going into China. That is a full blown trade war
between the two biggest economies that have ever existed.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
On the planet. So that's that situation.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Got some more commentary for variety of people on that
how that's going to play out. I have no idea,
and neither does anybody else. I don't think Trump is
betting his entire presidency on a good outcome, no doubt.
Marco Rubio pretty serious guy. He was asked about this
yesterday in the cabinet meeting. This is what he said, Well.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Mister President, one of the most important things I believe
that you'll achieve in your presidency is re ordering the
world in a proper way. For thirty one years, more
than thirty one years now, multiple administrations have allowed the
Chinese to de industrialize this country, to take away jobs
and factories and the pillars of our national strength. And
what you're doing now, I think is a great service
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to our country, but ultimately to the world. And I
want to congratulate you on your team that's working on that,
because that has extraordinary geopolitical implications, as you see from
all these other countries that are now coming here and
wanting to join something that actually makes just this it's
crazy to allow these I mean, basically, we lived in
a world where country Chinese companies can do whatever they
want in America, but our companies cannot do anything over
(03:06):
there unless they allow it, and even then they steal
our stuff and reverse engineer it. So just reordering all
that as traumatic implications on peace of security of the world.
So we thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
China has been ripping off the entire world, and since
we're the biggest economy, it affected us the most. For
a very very long time acknowledging that I'm all for.
I think it's a good idea. Whether this total tariff
thing is what's going to fix that, I don't have
any idea. This story got a lot of attention yesterday.
(03:38):
I feel like it's overblown. This is from ABC News.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Already consumers are feeling the effects. One shopper for Athletic
where spotting something different on an invoice from a recent order,
a new line that says tariff surcharge sixteen dollars and
sixty two cents.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah, okay, so one place somewhere they put on the
receipt tariff search. I saw that on like eight different
news sources yesterday. Okay, is that sweeping the nation? Are
lots of businesses doing that? Because I saw the same
one over and over again. So come on news. If
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that's the only one in the country, it means nothing.
If we all start seeing that on receipts, obviously it
means a lot. But the Trump aiding media loved that story.
How about this. This is a person on CNN also
with a negative spin on it.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
The global economy from inflation numbers that we've got, it's slowing.
It's gonna get worse. It's gonna get much worse because
everybody has to readjust their supply lines to accommodate this
new reality.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So that's that side of it.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
How about we hear the other side of it, people
who think this is gonna work. Maria Bartiromo on Hannity
last night, fifty.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
Four, Michael, President Trump is not going to back down
on this because at this point we all know who
the adversary slash enemy is, and the US consumer is
paramount here. China needs to sell all of those products
that they're producing for the world to the very powerful
US consumer. So if China wants to keep doubling down,
it is not going to be good for the Chinese economy.
Speaker 8 (05:18):
The economy there right.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Now is a lot weaker than people know, and this
huge tariff on its products is not going to be good.
Speaker 9 (05:27):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It's a heck of a thing for the world economy.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
The two biggest economies locked in a trade war in
a situation where there are two men and two men
only really that are, you know, playing a game of
chicken and staring each other down. She and Trumps. You
wouldn't think this many trillions of dollars could be on
the line and in the hands of or in the
(05:51):
minds of just two guys, it's really quite extraordinary. We
like Victor David Hanson, historian, and which he's very proud of.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
This is how he thinks it's going to play out.
Speaker 10 (06:04):
If Donald Trump can cut a deal with one major player,
and I think that Scott dosn't can, preferably in Europe,
because what he's basically saying, if it's reciprocal or no tariffs,
zero tariffs, they're going to want to make a deal
just one or two major players, and I think all
the rest will follow, and China's not going.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
To like that.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I don't claim to know anything about this sort of stuff.
I do kind of get the geopolitics of it, though,
and I could certainly believe that she thinks that United
States because he doesn't. They don't, you know, Communists don't
believe in democracies, don't believe democracies work because the authoritarianism
is a way to go, because then you can make
all these important decisions that the populace is not smart
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enough to understand.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So she thinks that.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
There will be enough political pressure and enough negative news
on this that Trump will brett back down. I think
Trump is the rare rarest of rare birds. We were
talking about profiles and lack of courage with Kamala Harris
Last Hour with Lonnie Chen. If you didn't hear that,
get the podcast Armstrong and getting on demand. But it
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is a profile and courage, perhaps some of you think misplaced,
But it is a profile and courage to lay your
entire presidency on the line for this. And I think
Trump will stick with it and not blink in the
way that president she thinks, and maybe at some point
President she realizes, Wow, this guy is crazy enough to
take this clear to the wall. We got to do something.
(07:32):
We gotta call him up and make a deal. I
hope that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Was there one more clip that I wanted to have?
I thought I had one more. I don't know. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Maybe later I didn't want to hit you with this
from the Wall Street Journal one more time. This is
from the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal. What
investors know is that the trade war is far from
over and damage persists even with the ninety day pause.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
The tariffs that continue on all other countries and.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
One hundred and forty five percent on China are the
largest tax increase on the American people since nineteen eighty two.
They're bigger than Bill Clinton's nineteen ninety three tax increase
and George HW. Bush's in nineteen ninety taxes, of course,
are anti growths, as the Wall Street Journal, Trump believes
that it is worth it. I'll play one more clip
(08:21):
for you. This is Trump and the term he's using
to describe this clip forty. If you would, Michael, clip forty.
This is Trump describing what this is. He's not denying
that there's going to be this giant tax using my
finger quotes on the American people. He's just saying it's
part of the plant. Which slip was that forty.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So we think we're in very good shape. We think
we're doing very well. Again.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
There'll be a transition cost and.
Speaker 11 (08:53):
Transition problems, but in the end it's going to be
it's going to be a beautiful thing. We're doing again
what we should have done many years ago. We'll let
it get out of control, and we allowed some countries
to get very big and very rich at our expense,
and we're not gonna can't let that happen.
Speaker 9 (09:14):
Can't.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It's not a sustainable.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Formula transition costs, which I guarantee you will be mocked
greatly by the left as these higher prices start to
hit in the next days, weeks, months, I don't know
how long that's going to take. You're gonna hear that
over and over again in a mocking way. The Biden
administration tried to pretend that inflation wasn't real and wasn't happening.
Trump's going with the Yeah, this is gonna happen, and
(09:38):
it's going to be painful, but it's a transition we
have to go through to get where we want to
be and get China to back down, and we'll see
if he's right or not. But so that's what we
all get to look forward to in the spring. In
the summer, maybe change your vacation plans or not.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Actually, there's some news out in the Wall Street Journal
today that just came out in the last couple hours
about consumer confidence that is really not good.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Maybe we'll get to that at a different time. Stay
with us. I'm sorry.
Speaker 12 (10:07):
Trump's getting his physical tomorrow, and while I'm sure his
doctors will be very thorough, I wanted to ask him
some questions myself. So if you don't mind, thank you,
mister president, thank you for talking to us about your health.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
First off, how much do you weigh? That's classified information.
Speaker 12 (10:22):
I understood, But how would you describe yourself?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I'm a perfect physical specimen and I'm very very.
Speaker 12 (10:29):
Young, Kem Burman, He says, here you're getting a proseate exam.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
How's that going to go for you?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
You are going to hear the wailing and shrieking.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Okay, that's enough.
Speaker 12 (10:43):
Now forgive me for asking, but are you getting up
a lot of night to Yearnate?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It goes drip? Okay?
Speaker 12 (10:56):
Just for just for our record, can you tell me
the name of your doctor?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Doctor had of electric? Okay, very good?
Speaker 12 (11:02):
And uh, who would you like to put as your
emergency contact?
Speaker 5 (11:05):
There?
Speaker 8 (11:06):
Your wife Elon Musk Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
So that's always exciting every year, well it has been
for the last couple of terms because we have such
ancient presidents. Wasn't really a big deal when it was
Barack obaum Er George H. W.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Bush.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
You looked at him and thought, Okay, you're about fifty
and you look to be in really good shape, So
what are you getting physical? But now that we got
really really old presidents. It's kind of interesting. I wonder
how honest they'll be about his height and weight and
blood pressure and everything. Of course, they weren't honest about
Joe Biden's mental capacity at all. Some texts we got
coming in. Oh, first, someone to mention the uh, how
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about that ballerina we got back from Russia. That story
is interesting. Maybe we'll talk more about that later. We
traded a scumbag criminal Russian to Vladimir to get back
this ballerina whose crime was she donated fifty four dollars
to a Ukrainian cause yep, and Russia grabbed off for
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twelve years. He's going to put in a Russian prison
for twelve years, and she's young. We got to put
a stop to that. We can't have North Korea, Iran, Russia,
China grabbing citizens off the street and then they get
back scumbag criminals in return. We got to end that somehow.
But different topic for a different time from the text line.
(12:29):
I was talking a fair amount about corporate training, because
I spent a couple hours doing that yesterday. Not to
complain about the company I work for. Every company does it.
I realize they're forced to do it. It's not their choice,
but we all know it's a complete waste of time,
and I it's one of the things I wish Doge
could get rid of. It is unproductive, it's a waste
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of money, and we all know that. You know it.
And then when you tell your boss you finished the training,
he knows it's a waste of time, or she and
their boss knows it's a waste of time. Yet we
all I'll do it. We got text from people in
different areas of work. Oh, we talked about how there,
Why are they so long? And I said that maybe
they have to be a certain length. Yes, actually it's
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legislated that some mandatory training be at least a particular length,
like two hours or whatever. No mention of mastery of
the topic or what you learned, just the amount of
time spent. Oh, for cry it out loud, how government
is that it doesn't matter whether you actually learned anything
or it's accomplishing anything. It's just got to be this
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length an hour and twenty minutes, to prove that you've.
Speaker 8 (13:35):
Yeah, because the government says so.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I hate this sort of thing so much.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
We got this text, I just got to work an
hour early to do harassment training for the third time.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Every year, three times a year.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Even though studies show it doesn't accomplish anything.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
If anything, it leads to.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
More sexual harassment, but it doesn't. I assume you all
know this, but I'll say it for the eighty millionth time.
It's to keep the lawyers at bay. If they give
this sexual harassment training and you get you sexually harassed somebody,
you can't go to the company and say I didn't know,
I wasn't supposed to slap her on the ass, and
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then you sue the company for a million dollars and
a jury full of morons. And that's why we are
always yes, serve on juries. Don't try to get out
of jury duty because you don't want morons. Well, who
say the company owes this guy millions of dollars because
he claims he didn't know he was most slapper on
the ass because he didn't get any training. That's why
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we're doing all this training to avoid those lawsuits.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Very very maddening. Different topic.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I brought up how I spilled coffee all over my
chest on the way to work, like I often do
because I can't drink out of most travel mugs. I
just they don't work for me, and I've gotten a
bunch of text from people who have had the same
problem who really like some of them. The Zorushie zog
Rushie sixteen out stainless steel muggets the best. The lid
opens past one hundred and eighty degrees so that your
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nose has space. Everybody have the same complaint as me.
If the flip up lid doesn't fold back far enough,
your nose gets in the way, so you have to
tip the cup up so high to drink out of it.
You're not looking at the roads. You can't drink it
while you drive your car. I'm looking at this thing.
Still still some head tipping required.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Okay. Other people suggested the Stanley mug. That is very
very good.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
It's like forty Bucks or the Broommate. I'm not advertising
any of these. The Broommate specifically because the lid flops
all the way back.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
So you can drink out of your coffee mug.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
So okay, this one looks like it might be a winner.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I just want to point out I'm not the only
person that has noticed that flaw in the design of
the little thing. That flips up. Look at this one
my nose right there. That's how far I can tip
the thing. You can't drink coffee like that.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
No, you cannot.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
You gotta tip your head way back that it's this
is tragic.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
Yeah, I recommend to yetti.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You like that. Yeah, my wife has them. We use
them all the time. They're not cheap.
Speaker 13 (16:12):
You're drinking out of a thirty dollars Starbucks mug that
you don't like.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Uh, that's true.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
And the YETI is thirty dollars.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
We're gonna talk to my clients coming up a little
bit and one to get him on for weeks. We
could talk about the fact that we're going to bomb
the crap out of Iran soon. We could talk about
obviously Israel or Ukraine. I don't know if I'll get
to that. China getting jump here all the time. How
about Trump fire in all these military people, a bunch
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of different generals in various positions, and the you know,
the NPR world calling it a purge. Is this something
I should be worried about or is he just putting
people in place that agree with his philosophy more. I'm
not particularly worried about it. One time, we are quoting
retired generals to Mike Lions, and I remember him saying,
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there's like a thousand retired generals out there, So just
because there's a retired general, you don't have to give
them some extra credit on what they have to say. Well,
we'll talk to Mike Lions coming up. If you miss
a seconment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
An important meeting, thanks to you, is going to happen
on Saturday for the first time in a long time.
They'll be direct talks to Ambassador Woodcoff and a top
level leader in Iran. We hope that'll lead to peace.
You've been very clear what Iran is never going to
have as a nuclear weapon, and I think that's what
led to this meeting. We'll wait for him to come
back from it, and we're hopeful about that.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I like Marco Rubio saying it. Trump says it regularly.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I do remember hearing various presidents say, for instance, North
Korea would never get a nuclear weapon, or other people
would never get to do this or that, and then
they do it anyway, and we don't stop them. Don't
don't go into Ukraine, for instance, don't go into crimea
joining us on the Armstrong and Getty Show, Mike Lions
is our go to whenever we're talking about this sort
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of stuff. Mike served with various military organizations in the
US and Europe throughout his career. He served in Operation
Desert Shield and Desert Storm. Ordered A Bronze Star. Also
has a BS degree from the United States Military Academy
at West Point, MBA from Stern School of Business at
New York University. You can find him on Twitter if
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if something BIG's going on military, I always check his
Twitter account at maj as in Major Mike liines Mike,
welcome back to the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 9 (18:31):
Hey Jack, thanks for having me back.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Let's start with Iran, Trump said a week or so ago,
so they're having direct talks tomorrow. And Trump said a
couple of weeks ago, if Rhan doesn't give up their
quest for a nuclear weapon, we would bomb them likes
of which they've never seen. Do you think he means it?
And do you think we can do it? And would
we do it?
Speaker 9 (18:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (18:54):
I think of all the things on the President's plate
right now when it comes to national security policy, this
is number one.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
This issue with Iran. It's been kicked down the road.
Speaker 14 (19:05):
That can's gotten kicked down the road for the past
ten or fifteen years now with the original JCPO way
back that Obama signed, and it's something that the President
wants to take care of. He does set a deadline.
He's got a two month deadline with regard to having
this this conversation. But I do believe that should at
the end of two months here, I think the rangings
are going to try to find the ball, but at
the end of two months, you're not going to see
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any more progress. I don't believe that Iran has any
intention of getting rid of their nuclear capability, and it's
going to force the hand of the master negotiator here
because it's likely that it's going to lead to a
military conflict.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Well, to be charitable to Iran, they have been told
this multiple times and nobody followed through, so you know,
I can see why they would think we can get
away with it again.
Speaker 14 (19:57):
Well, I think this time Israel is in much better
position and would feel that they could be involved, having
literally taken out most of their air defense platforms, the
destruction of the Uranian nuclear capability would be a very
challenging military objective, and in fact, it likely couldn't be
completed just from the military. It would take continuous strikes,
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it would take it's dispersed, it's in different areas.
Speaker 9 (20:25):
And so that might not even accomplish the objectives.
Speaker 14 (20:27):
And what it only might do is just set the
Uranians back years or so with regard to doing this.
I mean, the Israelis destroyed the Syrian nuclear capability, they
destroyed the Iraqi nuclear capability back in the eighties, and
they're not afraid to do it again. I think that's
the wild card. I think that's hanging in Donald Trump's
pocket here as he's talking to the Ranians, knowing that
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if they don't do a deal with him, that he's
going to unleash the Israelis on them, and they won't
stop until they know it's destroyed.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Right, And I don't think if for some reason we
had a maybe Kamala Harris would have been against doing anything.
Probably Israel would have done it anyway. They don't have
quite the capability we have, but they would. They would
have had to try, because what choice do they have.
One of my favorite underreported stories is what you just
mentioned So we all remember when Iran launched that giant
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drone attack against Israel and watched that unfold on a
Saturday morning and everything like that, and then Israel would respond,
how would Israel respond? Izor responded, And a lot of
the reporting was when Israel responded that it was kind
of a gesture.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
It wasn't really that big a deal.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Iran from books I've read, wanted to downplay the response.
But in reality, what you just said, Israel took down
so many of their air defense weapons that they're in
the best position. We're in the best position we've ever
been for a major attack on Iran. So what do
you think that would look like.
Speaker 14 (21:57):
Well, I mean, we've already taken out the air defenses
around where their nuclear capability is.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
It's there.
Speaker 14 (22:02):
They've got about eleven different sites that are scattered around ran.
They there's three basic components to make a nuclear bomb
and to mind it, you have to fortify it and
then you weaponize it. And the Israelis have taken out
the main air defense platforms on all those sites. But
what it would look like, it would start with that again,
it would be it would be reinforcing that that any
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kind of air defense systems. As the United States, anytime
we attack, we go in with air superior air defense capability.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
You could see naval fire, you could see Tomahawk cruise missiles.
You know. My favorite part of that go back to
the movie Maverick.
Speaker 14 (22:38):
Remember in Maverick when they fire the cruise missiles before
they go in and they fire.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
The thing is they know that.
Speaker 14 (22:43):
Those air defense systems, so they don't take them out.
I don't understand why they don't do that, because they
guarantee it. If we know where there's air defense systems,
we would take those out and then they would have
bunker buster kind of bombs because we know that these
systems that the Iranians have set up are well underground.
They're designed to be survived, survivable, and it would be
the same thing again as you saw in that movie.
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I mean, as life imitates art. The first kind of
tap softens the ground, and the second tap would go
deep and blow up, blow up the capability.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
So it would be it would be a war for
you know the.
Speaker 14 (23:15):
Ages right now at this point, but because it would
have to be much bigger than any other kind of
attack that Israel did before when.
Speaker 9 (23:21):
They took out a nuclear capability of another country.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
So would it be fair to say this would be
the biggest thing since March two thousand and three, when
we you know, unleash shock and awe.
Speaker 14 (23:34):
Yeah, I think so. I think it would. You know,
you'd have pilots that would be at risk. The question
is what allies would come to iron side. They don't
really have any military capability of the Russians wouldn't be able
to do anything. It would That's the issue people are
concerned about, is this escalation within within the Middle East.
But the Saudi's would be all in. If we wanted
to do this, well, we'd grab allies from these other countries.
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Again again, Trump's given himself two months to set the
situation of gaining allies on this side, seeing what the
Uranians are going to do, you know, kind of winding
up the war machine.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
And I think that it would have it would be a.
Speaker 14 (24:10):
Very large, shotgun off type of attack. That's that's pretty
That's probably a pretty good analogy.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
So the history of warfare, as you know, is the
countries thinking this is going to be over soon and
we're going to win easily. And I mean, there are
so many examples out there throughout history. It happens over
and over again. I was just reading about the Six
Day War Israel and Egypt and the other countries, and
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how Egypt thought they were in a position to really
dominate Israel and they got wiped out in a matter
of minutes. So spin out what could go wrong? Like
what what? What is a possible This doesn't work out
the way we thought it would?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
What could what could happen?
Speaker 14 (24:53):
I think in most cases, those kind of conflicts are
more on the ground. Look what Russia tried to do
with Ukraine. It was going to be over in three days.
So you have a much deeper component with regard to
what the battle is going on in this situation here,
you know, the Israelis could lose some planes, We could
lose some planes, but the mission would be, you know,
(25:14):
from a military perspective, is to destroy or set back
the Uranian nuclear capability. And it's it's accomplishable. And I
think that's why it's on the table. It's there's no
there's for Iran and Israel to go to war. There's
countries in between this Syrias in between. There's not going
to be a ground war that's that will take place there.
What you'll see then is gray zone or you'll see
(25:35):
asymmetric warfare perhaps, but now Iran's capability to do that
has been destroyed. Hamas Is destroyed, has Billah destroyed. You
see the Huthis as we're you know, banging on them
down you know, down at Yemen. So so they're they're
they're out of the picture. So Iran's and its weakest
point as it is right now. So they're going to
have to make an existential decision because what it also
(25:56):
implies is regime change. When we have this kind of
launch and we un this kind of attack into Iran,
it really does mean regime change. That's where things go wrong.
But the difference is we're not going to put people
on the ground.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
So you think that would just be a natural goes
along with this major attack, is that there would have
to be regime change or it would happen.
Speaker 14 (26:17):
I think that would be the undercurrent to it. I
think similar to what happened in and go back to
Desert Storm. After destroying most of the Iraqi military, we
thought that there would be regime change in there, but
Asnama saying, ended up, you know, putting down any of
those rebellions that took place. Perhaps the Israel and the
United States could get together, put people inside of Iran
(26:39):
and try to do the same thing there. But I
think regime change would be the real risk that would
take place inside of Iran.
Speaker 9 (26:44):
That would happen, and that could be good, that could
be bad. We think it's good.
Speaker 14 (26:47):
Look, Iran is person that's a highly intellectual country run
by you know, very bad people. For the past forty years,
we've talked about this is the number one foreign policies
failure in my life time in a post World War
two era.
Speaker 9 (27:01):
There's no other way to put it.
Speaker 14 (27:03):
If everything today is always because of the Iranian influence
and trying to be the hedgemonic power in the Middle East,
and their attacks on Israel and the like, and the
fact that they're the number one state sponsor of terrorism.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
I want to move on that from that before I
let you go. I've been following Senator Tom Cotton's got
a book out called Seven Things You Can't Say About China,
and I've been listening to his podcasts as he talks
about that, and he's really concerned as everybody is, about
China making their move on Taiwan. So one of the
things he brought up the other day, and I wondered
(27:35):
to what your perspective was. It is what happens when
the day comes when China is having one of those
military exercises like they had recently where they basically surround Taiwan.
They've got all the ships in place, they got all
these people, they got planes flying overhead, and they all
of a sudden announce or don't announce that this is real,
this is not an exercise.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
You're ours now. Could we do anything about that?
Speaker 14 (27:59):
Yeah, to what the Egyptians and the Arab countries did
to Israel back on the sixties and the seventies, they
kept moving troops towards the border and forcing Israel to
respond and have to alert their forces, and then finally
they ended up coming. So I think that's how it
will go when it goes down. I don't think there's
anything we can do about it. Are deterrens right now?
(28:20):
Are also we're at a trade war with China that's
on the non military side.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
That's clear that what's.
Speaker 14 (28:24):
Taking place there so and China has always had time
in their side, and I think maybe that's their calculation
now as they fight with President Trump over these tariffs.
You have economists saying we should just go to four
hundred percent. The bottom line is we're going to have
a trade war with China. In for a penny, in
for a pounds, same thing on the military, we might
as well try to what will eventually again become razine
(28:45):
change there because time is always on their side for
a leader for life that it takes place.
Speaker 9 (28:49):
So if they decide to do that here, I think
that's a very real scenario.
Speaker 14 (28:53):
But it would mean it would mean US forces attacking
inside of China, and then that could potentially meet my
Chinese forces attacking you know, California.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
So yeah, it could be. It could get very bad,
very quickly. So I don't believe.
Speaker 14 (29:08):
I don't believe the United States would do anything at
that point in time because of that risk. I think
that they could possibly try to help the defense of it,
but firing missiles into China would be a bridge too
far that would start the Third World War in the Pacific.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Wow, you are among many people that I've heard that
you know, I would describe as you know, certainly not pacifists.
Afraid to use Bower who said, if China moves on Taiwan,
We're probably just going to have to say, okay, yeah.
Speaker 14 (29:38):
Yeah, I don't see us again sacrificing a West coast
city for it, because that's really what it will mean
as they the the terrence that the President has brought
to the world now is clearly there. I think that
it's caused countries to think twice. But if they miscalculate
whether or not we can actually do something about it.
(29:58):
You look at the military, they're probably seems to be
shipbuilding right now. We have to we have to redo
our navy, we have to do a lot more things,
so we're probably five to ten years behind that we
could actually then do something and feel that we could
protect both the naval forces that we have in the
Pacific plus our western flank, which is again the state
of California in our West coast cities. And I think
(30:19):
I don't think that we're there then, and I think
that's what's being brief to the President, which is why
if they decide to do it, it's you know, it's
just another indicator of how China actually it really is
what they're country's about.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Mike Clients, You see them pop up on cable news
or follow him on Twitter or whatever. Something big happens,
always look for your insight. Thanks for your time today.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 9 (30:38):
Thanks Jack, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
When a guy starts throwing around like in serious tones,
then they would uh, then they would attack California.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Holy crap. All right, I'm sure we'll discuss that more
later at another time.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
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Uh man oh while contemplating World War three on Friday.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Enough of that.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Enough of that, got some great text on a variety
of topics and some other fun stuff to get to stay.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Here, arm Strong and Yettie.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
I kind of have always known that I have a
very tall mouse.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
As a little kid, I had seven siblings, and as
kids do, we used to put stuff in our mouths
all the time.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
And it always confused me when people are like, oh.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Light bulbs are you know, don't open them in your mouth.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
They get stuck. But they never got stuck in my mouth.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
People look at.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That and they think that's something that really exists.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
I wonder if I.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Can do that. That is a woman who set the
Guinness record for having the largest mouth gap. She said,
I over had a really tall mouth. I've never heard
that term before, but I guess if you can open
your mouth lengthwise a long way, they call that a
tall mouth.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Okay, fine, right, three inches is the record. Thank you
for that, Mike.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
Wow, you can put a lot of stuff from there.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
That is fantastic.
Speaker 13 (32:37):
Every time we play a clip, I of course, go
to the Internet, which I need to stop doing, and
I googled her and.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
I'm looking at a picture of her with five Jenga
pieces staffed in her mouth.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
See five Jenga pieces.
Speaker 8 (32:51):
Five Jenga pieces.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Worth mentioning that I've still never lost a jinga in
my entire life. I never lost one game of jinga.
It might be the world's best Jinga player. A couple
of unimportant things to get to.
Speaker 13 (33:07):
Oh, here's the one with her with the can of
corn in her mouthing this tab forever.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
What do you what?
Speaker 4 (33:17):
So, Gladys, I've told this story before, Gladys, but this
is this is something. When I was a kid, I
was obsessed with getting into the Guinness Book of World Records.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I mean just obsessed. Okay, this is the only thing
I cared about.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
The Guinness Book of World Records used to be a
bigger deal than it is now, Like a lot of books.
Now everything's online, all the everything, all the time, everywhere,
all the time, like that movie.
Speaker 13 (33:41):
Every year, I was so excited to get the new
Guinness war.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Okay, so even at your age, yeah, because when the
new one came out, Man, we'd sit on the school
bus and look through that, and it was just loved
that thing and I wanted to get in it.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
So I tried all kinds of different.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Things, snatching coins off my elbow, like you put them
on your elbow, you could turn your hand and catch
him before they hit the ground.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I worked on that. I don't know how many hours.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
If I hadn't put that many hours into playing the piano,
i'd be at Carnegie Hall. But no, I was trying
to snatch quarters off my elbow. Or one time was
wearing roller skates NonStop. I forget what the world record was,
but I was going to try to do that. I'm
sure that was a lot of fun in the house
for your parents. It ended the first night. I made
it all day long, but trying to sleep in bed
(34:25):
with roller skates on, like I can't do this.
Speaker 9 (34:33):
Well.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Part of it was my mom.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Was worried about me tearing up the sheets with the
roller skates on, so I had to have my feet
hanging off the bed.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
So she's the reason I'm not in the book. She
wasn't as.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Committed as me to a Guinness World World record. She
wouldn't let me put my roller skates on the mattress.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I want to lose mom, come on.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Then I was gonna there was some record about living
in a cardboard box, which now it's like, you know,
everybody in certain streets in la or Portland could be
sitting in the records, but was living in a cardboard box.
So I did this probably like a day in the night.
And they had a slit in a cardboard box. And
I remember my mom sliding through a plate of like
eggs and French toast to me in the.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
More like you're in prison. I can't believe she went
her along with this stuff.
Speaker 13 (35:22):
So well, well this might be a dumb question. Was
it the cardboard box in the house?
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I was down in the basement. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
I did a number of them.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
It was just I wanted to be like my son
said the other day when we were driving home in
the cyber truck, he said, you like people looking at you,
don't you? And apparently I do have something in that
because I wanted to be in the Guinness World Book
of Records, and then I end up doing.
Speaker 9 (35:42):
This for a career.
Speaker 13 (35:42):
But there has to be a record you can break
that we can get you in there.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
There has to be I say you do this roller
skates one again. Yeah your sheets now, no way.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
These are my sheets. Dammit.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
If I tear them up with the roller skates, that's
my problem. Need therapy all around that whole thing. That's
funny how much time I got my goal ten seconds
so in hour four. If you haven't heard Clips of
the week, it's absolutely fantastic. I got a little story
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Speaker 13 (36:20):
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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty, I know he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
The next steps for China, sir, Well, we'll see what
happens with China. We would love to be able to
work a deal. They've really taken advantage of our country
for a long period of time. They've ripped us off
beyond anybody, nobody. How people stood for it, sitting in
(00:44):
my position is not even believable. And we're talking about
many presidents, not just in a couple, but they did,
and Alwadi is putting it back in shape. We're resetting
the table.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
So that's from a cabinet meeting that they had yesterday.
We got some more audio from from that coming up
in just a second. But in case you're not hipped
to a couple of the developments that happened in the
last twenty four hours. The market was reacting and people
were talking about tariffs on all Chinese goods being at
one hundred and twenty five percent I think anyway, Trump
(01:19):
pointed out later in the day, No, no, it's actually
one hundred and forty five percent. So I'm adding this
to the other thing that I had like a month
ago or whatever. So the tariff on all Chinese goods
coming into the United States, the stuff on all the
shelves and Walmart or the buy on Amazon that's from China,
one hundred and forty five percent right now. And as
soon as that news was clarified, the Dow tumbled quite
(01:41):
a bit yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
As everybody caught onto that.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
And then overnight tariff China announced they're raising their tariff
on all US goods coming into their country to one
hundred and twenty five percent, So one hundred and forty
five coming to the US one hundred and twenty five
going into China. That is a full blown trade war
between the two biggest economies that have ever existed.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
On the planet. So that's that situation.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Got some more commentary for variety of people on that
how that's going to play out. I have no idea,
and neither does anybody else. I don't think Trump is
betting his entire presidency on a good outcome, no doubt.
Marco Rubio pretty serious guy. He was asked about this
yesterday in the cabinet meeting. This is what he said, Well.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Mister President, one of the most important things I believe
that you'll achieve in your presidency is re ordering the
world in a proper way. For thirty one years, more
than thirty one years now, multiple administrations have allowed the
Chinese to de industrialize this country, to take away jobs
and factories and the pillars of our national strength. And
what you're doing now, I think is a great service
(02:45):
to our country, but ultimately to the world. And I
want to congratulate you on your team that's working on that,
because that has extraordinary geopolitical implications, as you see from
all these other countries that are now coming here and
wanting to join something that actually makes just this it's
crazy to allow these I mean, basically, we lived in
a world where country Chinese companies can do whatever they
want in America, but our companies cannot do anything over
(03:06):
there unless they allow it, and even then they steal
our stuff and reverse engineer it. So just reordering all
that as traumatic implications on peace of security of the world.
So we thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
China has been ripping off the entire world, and since
we're the biggest economy, it affected us the most. For
a very very long time acknowledging that I'm all for.
I think it's a good idea. Whether this total tariff
thing is what's going to fix that, I don't have
any idea. This story got a lot of attention yesterday.
(03:38):
I feel like it's overblown. This is from ABC News.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Already consumers are feeling the effects. One shopper for Athletic
where spotting something different on an invoice from a recent order,
a new line that says tariff surcharge sixteen dollars and
sixty two cents.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah, okay, so one place somewhere they put on the
receipt tariff search. I saw that on like eight different
news sources yesterday. Okay, is that sweeping the nation? Are
lots of businesses doing that? Because I saw the same
one over and over again. So come on news. If
(04:15):
that's the only one in the country, it means nothing.
If we all start seeing that on receipts, obviously it
means a lot. But the Trump aiding media loved that story.
How about this. This is a person on CNN also
with a negative spin on it.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
The global economy from inflation numbers that we've got, it's slowing.
It's gonna get worse. It's gonna get much worse because
everybody has to readjust their supply lines to accommodate this
new reality.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So that's that side of it.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
How about we hear the other side of it, people
who think this is gonna work. Maria Bartiromo on Hannity
last night, fifty.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
Four, Michael, President Trump is not going to back down
on this because at this point we all know who
the adversary slash enemy is, and the US consumer is
paramount here. China needs to sell all of those products
that they're producing for the world to the very powerful
US consumer. So if China wants to keep doubling down,
it is not going to be good for the Chinese economy.
Speaker 8 (05:18):
The economy there right.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Now is a lot weaker than people know, and this
huge tariff on its products is not going to be good.
Speaker 9 (05:27):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It's a heck of a thing for the world economy.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
The two biggest economies locked in a trade war in
a situation where there are two men and two men
only really that are, you know, playing a game of
chicken and staring each other down. She and Trumps. You
wouldn't think this many trillions of dollars could be on
the line and in the hands of or in the
(05:51):
minds of just two guys, it's really quite extraordinary. We
like Victor David Hanson, historian, and which he's very proud of.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
This is how he thinks it's going to play out.
Speaker 10 (06:04):
If Donald Trump can cut a deal with one major player,
and I think that Scott dosn't can, preferably in Europe,
because what he's basically saying, if it's reciprocal or no tariffs,
zero tariffs, they're going to want to make a deal
just one or two major players, and I think all
the rest will follow, and China's not going.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
To like that.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I don't claim to know anything about this sort of stuff.
I do kind of get the geopolitics of it, though,
and I could certainly believe that she thinks that United
States because he doesn't. They don't, you know, Communists don't
believe in democracies, don't believe democracies work because the authoritarianism
is a way to go, because then you can make
all these important decisions that the populace is not smart
(06:47):
enough to understand.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So she thinks that.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
There will be enough political pressure and enough negative news
on this that Trump will brett back down. I think
Trump is the rare rarest of rare birds. We were
talking about profiles and lack of courage with Kamala Harris
Last Hour with Lonnie Chen. If you didn't hear that,
get the podcast Armstrong and getting on demand. But it
(07:12):
is a profile and courage, perhaps some of you think misplaced,
But it is a profile and courage to lay your
entire presidency on the line for this. And I think
Trump will stick with it and not blink in the
way that president she thinks, and maybe at some point
President she realizes, Wow, this guy is crazy enough to
take this clear to the wall. We got to do something.
(07:32):
We gotta call him up and make a deal. I
hope that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Was there one more clip that I wanted to have?
I thought I had one more. I don't know. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Maybe later I didn't want to hit you with this
from the Wall Street Journal one more time. This is
from the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal. What
investors know is that the trade war is far from
over and damage persists even with the ninety day pause.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
The tariffs that continue on all other countries and.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
One hundred and forty five percent on China are the
largest tax increase on the American people since nineteen eighty two.
They're bigger than Bill Clinton's nineteen ninety three tax increase
and George HW. Bush's in nineteen ninety taxes, of course,
are anti growths, as the Wall Street Journal, Trump believes
that it is worth it. I'll play one more clip
(08:21):
for you. This is Trump and the term he's using
to describe this clip forty. If you would, Michael, clip forty.
This is Trump describing what this is. He's not denying
that there's going to be this giant tax using my
finger quotes on the American people. He's just saying it's
part of the plant. Which slip was that forty.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So we think we're in very good shape. We think
we're doing very well. Again.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
There'll be a transition cost and.
Speaker 11 (08:53):
Transition problems, but in the end it's going to be
it's going to be a beautiful thing. We're doing again
what we should have done many years ago. We'll let
it get out of control, and we allowed some countries
to get very big and very rich at our expense,
and we're not gonna can't let that happen.
Speaker 9 (09:14):
Can't.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It's not a sustainable.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Formula transition costs, which I guarantee you will be mocked
greatly by the left as these higher prices start to
hit in the next days, weeks, months, I don't know
how long that's going to take. You're gonna hear that
over and over again in a mocking way. The Biden
administration tried to pretend that inflation wasn't real and wasn't happening.
Trump's going with the Yeah, this is gonna happen, and
(09:38):
it's going to be painful, but it's a transition we
have to go through to get where we want to
be and get China to back down, and we'll see
if he's right or not. But so that's what we
all get to look forward to in the spring. In
the summer, maybe change your vacation plans or not.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Actually, there's some news out in the Wall Street Journal
today that just came out in the last couple hours
about consumer confidence that is really not good.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Maybe we'll get to that at a different time. Stay
with us. I'm sorry.
Speaker 12 (10:07):
Trump's getting his physical tomorrow, and while I'm sure his
doctors will be very thorough, I wanted to ask him
some questions myself. So if you don't mind, thank you,
mister president, thank you for talking to us about your health.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
First off, how much do you weigh? That's classified information.
Speaker 12 (10:22):
I understood, But how would you describe yourself?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I'm a perfect physical specimen and I'm very very.
Speaker 12 (10:29):
Young, Kem Burman, He says, here you're getting a proseate exam.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
How's that going to go for you?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
You are going to hear the wailing and shrieking.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Okay, that's enough.
Speaker 12 (10:43):
Now forgive me for asking, but are you getting up
a lot of night to Yearnate?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It goes drip? Okay?
Speaker 12 (10:56):
Just for just for our record, can you tell me
the name of your doctor?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Doctor had of electric? Okay, very good?
Speaker 12 (11:02):
And uh, who would you like to put as your
emergency contact?
Speaker 5 (11:05):
There?
Speaker 8 (11:06):
Your wife Elon Musk Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
So that's always exciting every year, well it has been
for the last couple of terms because we have such
ancient presidents. Wasn't really a big deal when it was
Barack obaum Er George H. W.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Bush.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
You looked at him and thought, Okay, you're about fifty
and you look to be in really good shape, So
what are you getting physical? But now that we got
really really old presidents. It's kind of interesting. I wonder
how honest they'll be about his height and weight and
blood pressure and everything. Of course, they weren't honest about
Joe Biden's mental capacity at all. Some texts we got
coming in. Oh, first, someone to mention the uh, how
(11:43):
about that ballerina we got back from Russia. That story
is interesting. Maybe we'll talk more about that later. We
traded a scumbag criminal Russian to Vladimir to get back
this ballerina whose crime was she donated fifty four dollars
to a Ukrainian cause yep, and Russia grabbed off for
(12:07):
twelve years. He's going to put in a Russian prison
for twelve years, and she's young. We got to put
a stop to that. We can't have North Korea, Iran, Russia,
China grabbing citizens off the street and then they get
back scumbag criminals in return. We got to end that somehow.
But different topic for a different time from the text line.
(12:29):
I was talking a fair amount about corporate training, because
I spent a couple hours doing that yesterday. Not to
complain about the company I work for. Every company does it.
I realize they're forced to do it. It's not their choice,
but we all know it's a complete waste of time,
and I it's one of the things I wish Doge
could get rid of. It is unproductive, it's a waste
(12:49):
of money, and we all know that. You know it.
And then when you tell your boss you finished the training,
he knows it's a waste of time, or she and
their boss knows it's a waste of time. Yet we
all I'll do it. We got text from people in
different areas of work. Oh, we talked about how there,
Why are they so long? And I said that maybe
they have to be a certain length. Yes, actually it's
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legislated that some mandatory training be at least a particular length,
like two hours or whatever. No mention of mastery of
the topic or what you learned, just the amount of
time spent. Oh, for cry it out loud, how government
is that it doesn't matter whether you actually learned anything
or it's accomplishing anything. It's just got to be this
(13:32):
length an hour and twenty minutes, to prove that you've.
Speaker 8 (13:35):
Yeah, because the government says so.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I hate this sort of thing so much.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
We got this text, I just got to work an
hour early to do harassment training for the third time.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Every year, three times a year.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Even though studies show it doesn't accomplish anything.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
If anything, it leads to.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
More sexual harassment, but it doesn't. I assume you all
know this, but I'll say it for the eighty millionth time.
It's to keep the lawyers at bay. If they give
this sexual harassment training and you get you sexually harassed somebody,
you can't go to the company and say I didn't know,
I wasn't supposed to slap her on the ass, and
(14:13):
then you sue the company for a million dollars and
a jury full of morons. And that's why we are
always yes, serve on juries. Don't try to get out
of jury duty because you don't want morons. Well, who
say the company owes this guy millions of dollars because
he claims he didn't know he was most slapper on
the ass because he didn't get any training. That's why
(14:34):
we're doing all this training to avoid those lawsuits.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Very very maddening. Different topic.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I brought up how I spilled coffee all over my
chest on the way to work, like I often do
because I can't drink out of most travel mugs. I
just they don't work for me, and I've gotten a
bunch of text from people who have had the same
problem who really like some of them. The Zorushie zog
Rushie sixteen out stainless steel muggets the best. The lid
opens past one hundred and eighty degrees so that your
(15:04):
nose has space. Everybody have the same complaint as me.
If the flip up lid doesn't fold back far enough,
your nose gets in the way, so you have to
tip the cup up so high to drink out of it.
You're not looking at the roads. You can't drink it
while you drive your car. I'm looking at this thing.
Still still some head tipping required.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Okay. Other people suggested the Stanley mug. That is very
very good.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
It's like forty Bucks or the Broommate. I'm not advertising
any of these. The Broommate specifically because the lid flops
all the way back.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
So you can drink out of your coffee mug.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
So okay, this one looks like it might be a winner.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I just want to point out I'm not the only
person that has noticed that flaw in the design of
the little thing. That flips up. Look at this one
my nose right there. That's how far I can tip
the thing. You can't drink coffee like that.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
No, you cannot.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
You gotta tip your head way back that it's this
is tragic.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
Yeah, I recommend to yetti.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You like that. Yeah, my wife has them. We use
them all the time. They're not cheap.
Speaker 13 (16:12):
You're drinking out of a thirty dollars Starbucks mug that
you don't like.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Uh, that's true.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
And the YETI is thirty dollars.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
We're gonna talk to my clients coming up a little
bit and one to get him on for weeks. We
could talk about the fact that we're going to bomb
the crap out of Iran soon. We could talk about
obviously Israel or Ukraine. I don't know if I'll get
to that. China getting jump here all the time. How
about Trump fire in all these military people, a bunch
(16:41):
of different generals in various positions, and the you know,
the NPR world calling it a purge. Is this something
I should be worried about or is he just putting
people in place that agree with his philosophy more. I'm
not particularly worried about it. One time, we are quoting
retired generals to Mike Lions, and I remember him saying,
(17:02):
there's like a thousand retired generals out there, So just
because there's a retired general, you don't have to give
them some extra credit on what they have to say. Well,
we'll talk to Mike Lions coming up. If you miss
a seconment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
An important meeting, thanks to you, is going to happen
on Saturday for the first time in a long time.
They'll be direct talks to Ambassador Woodcoff and a top
level leader in Iran. We hope that'll lead to peace.
You've been very clear what Iran is never going to
have as a nuclear weapon, and I think that's what
led to this meeting. We'll wait for him to come
back from it, and we're hopeful about that.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I like Marco Rubio saying it. Trump says it regularly.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I do remember hearing various presidents say, for instance, North
Korea would never get a nuclear weapon, or other people
would never get to do this or that, and then
they do it anyway, and we don't stop them. Don't
don't go into Ukraine, for instance, don't go into crimea
joining us on the Armstrong and Getty Show, Mike Lions
is our go to whenever we're talking about this sort
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of stuff. Mike served with various military organizations in the
US and Europe throughout his career. He served in Operation
Desert Shield and Desert Storm. Ordered A Bronze Star. Also
has a BS degree from the United States Military Academy
at West Point, MBA from Stern School of Business at
New York University. You can find him on Twitter if
(18:22):
if something BIG's going on military, I always check his
Twitter account at maj as in Major Mike liines Mike,
welcome back to the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 9 (18:31):
Hey Jack, thanks for having me back.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Let's start with Iran, Trump said a week or so ago,
so they're having direct talks tomorrow. And Trump said a
couple of weeks ago, if Rhan doesn't give up their
quest for a nuclear weapon, we would bomb them likes
of which they've never seen. Do you think he means it?
And do you think we can do it? And would
we do it?
Speaker 9 (18:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (18:54):
I think of all the things on the President's plate
right now when it comes to national security policy, this
is number one.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
This issue with Iran. It's been kicked down the road.
Speaker 14 (19:05):
That can's gotten kicked down the road for the past
ten or fifteen years now with the original JCPO way
back that Obama signed, and it's something that the President
wants to take care of. He does set a deadline.
He's got a two month deadline with regard to having
this this conversation. But I do believe that should at
the end of two months here, I think the rangings
are going to try to find the ball, but at
the end of two months, you're not going to see
(19:26):
any more progress. I don't believe that Iran has any
intention of getting rid of their nuclear capability, and it's
going to force the hand of the master negotiator here
because it's likely that it's going to lead to a
military conflict.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Well, to be charitable to Iran, they have been told
this multiple times and nobody followed through, so you know,
I can see why they would think we can get
away with it again.
Speaker 14 (19:57):
Well, I think this time Israel is in much better
position and would feel that they could be involved, having
literally taken out most of their air defense platforms, the
destruction of the Uranian nuclear capability would be a very
challenging military objective, and in fact, it likely couldn't be
completed just from the military. It would take continuous strikes,
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it would take it's dispersed, it's in different areas.
Speaker 9 (20:25):
And so that might not even accomplish the objectives.
Speaker 14 (20:27):
And what it only might do is just set the
Uranians back years or so with regard to doing this.
I mean, the Israelis destroyed the Syrian nuclear capability, they
destroyed the Iraqi nuclear capability back in the eighties, and
they're not afraid to do it again. I think that's
the wild card. I think that's hanging in Donald Trump's
pocket here as he's talking to the Ranians, knowing that
(20:49):
if they don't do a deal with him, that he's
going to unleash the Israelis on them, and they won't
stop until they know it's destroyed.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Right, And I don't think if for some reason we
had a maybe Kamala Harris would have been against doing anything.
Probably Israel would have done it anyway. They don't have
quite the capability we have, but they would. They would
have had to try, because what choice do they have.
One of my favorite underreported stories is what you just
mentioned So we all remember when Iran launched that giant
(21:18):
drone attack against Israel and watched that unfold on a
Saturday morning and everything like that, and then Israel would respond,
how would Israel respond? Izor responded, And a lot of
the reporting was when Israel responded that it was kind
of a gesture.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
It wasn't really that big a deal.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Iran from books I've read, wanted to downplay the response.
But in reality, what you just said, Israel took down
so many of their air defense weapons that they're in
the best position. We're in the best position we've ever
been for a major attack on Iran. So what do
you think that would look like.
Speaker 14 (21:57):
Well, I mean, we've already taken out the air defenses
around where their nuclear capability is.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
It's there.
Speaker 14 (22:02):
They've got about eleven different sites that are scattered around ran.
They there's three basic components to make a nuclear bomb
and to mind it, you have to fortify it and
then you weaponize it. And the Israelis have taken out
the main air defense platforms on all those sites. But
what it would look like, it would start with that again,
it would be it would be reinforcing that that any
(22:25):
kind of air defense systems. As the United States, anytime
we attack, we go in with air superior air defense capability.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
You could see naval fire, you could see Tomahawk cruise missiles.
You know. My favorite part of that go back to
the movie Maverick.
Speaker 14 (22:38):
Remember in Maverick when they fire the cruise missiles before
they go in and they fire.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
The thing is they know that.
Speaker 14 (22:43):
Those air defense systems, so they don't take them out.
I don't understand why they don't do that, because they
guarantee it. If we know where there's air defense systems,
we would take those out and then they would have
bunker buster kind of bombs because we know that these
systems that the Iranians have set up are well underground.
They're designed to be survived, survivable, and it would be
the same thing again as you saw in that movie.
(23:03):
I mean, as life imitates art. The first kind of
tap softens the ground, and the second tap would go
deep and blow up, blow up the capability.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
So it would be it would be a war for
you know the.
Speaker 14 (23:15):
Ages right now at this point, but because it would
have to be much bigger than any other kind of
attack that Israel did before when.
Speaker 9 (23:21):
They took out a nuclear capability of another country.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
So would it be fair to say this would be
the biggest thing since March two thousand and three, when
we you know, unleash shock and awe.
Speaker 14 (23:34):
Yeah, I think so. I think it would. You know,
you'd have pilots that would be at risk. The question
is what allies would come to iron side. They don't
really have any military capability of the Russians wouldn't be able
to do anything. It would That's the issue people are
concerned about, is this escalation within within the Middle East.
But the Saudi's would be all in. If we wanted
to do this, well, we'd grab allies from these other countries.
(23:58):
Again again, Trump's given himself two months to set the
situation of gaining allies on this side, seeing what the
Uranians are going to do, you know, kind of winding
up the war machine.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
And I think that it would have it would be a.
Speaker 14 (24:10):
Very large, shotgun off type of attack. That's that's pretty
That's probably a pretty good analogy.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
So the history of warfare, as you know, is the
countries thinking this is going to be over soon and
we're going to win easily. And I mean, there are
so many examples out there throughout history. It happens over
and over again. I was just reading about the Six
Day War Israel and Egypt and the other countries, and
(24:36):
how Egypt thought they were in a position to really
dominate Israel and they got wiped out in a matter
of minutes. So spin out what could go wrong? Like
what what? What is a possible This doesn't work out
the way we thought it would?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
What could what could happen?
Speaker 14 (24:53):
I think in most cases, those kind of conflicts are
more on the ground. Look what Russia tried to do
with Ukraine. It was going to be over in three days.
So you have a much deeper component with regard to
what the battle is going on in this situation here,
you know, the Israelis could lose some planes, We could
lose some planes, but the mission would be, you know,
(25:14):
from a military perspective, is to destroy or set back
the Uranian nuclear capability. And it's it's accomplishable. And I
think that's why it's on the table. It's there's no
there's for Iran and Israel to go to war. There's
countries in between this Syrias in between. There's not going
to be a ground war that's that will take place there.
What you'll see then is gray zone or you'll see
(25:35):
asymmetric warfare perhaps, but now Iran's capability to do that
has been destroyed. Hamas Is destroyed, has Billah destroyed. You
see the Huthis as we're you know, banging on them
down you know, down at Yemen. So so they're they're
they're out of the picture. So Iran's and its weakest
point as it is right now. So they're going to
have to make an existential decision because what it also
(25:56):
implies is regime change. When we have this kind of
launch and we un this kind of attack into Iran,
it really does mean regime change. That's where things go wrong.
But the difference is we're not going to put people
on the ground.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
So you think that would just be a natural goes
along with this major attack, is that there would have
to be regime change or it would happen.
Speaker 14 (26:17):
I think that would be the undercurrent to it. I
think similar to what happened in and go back to
Desert Storm. After destroying most of the Iraqi military, we
thought that there would be regime change in there, but
Asnama saying, ended up, you know, putting down any of
those rebellions that took place. Perhaps the Israel and the
United States could get together, put people inside of Iran
(26:39):
and try to do the same thing there. But I
think regime change would be the real risk that would
take place inside of Iran.
Speaker 9 (26:44):
That would happen, and that could be good, that could
be bad. We think it's good.
Speaker 14 (26:47):
Look, Iran is person that's a highly intellectual country run
by you know, very bad people. For the past forty years,
we've talked about this is the number one foreign policies
failure in my life time in a post World War
two era.
Speaker 9 (27:01):
There's no other way to put it.
Speaker 14 (27:03):
If everything today is always because of the Iranian influence
and trying to be the hedgemonic power in the Middle East,
and their attacks on Israel and the like, and the
fact that they're the number one state sponsor of terrorism.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
I want to move on that from that before I
let you go. I've been following Senator Tom Cotton's got
a book out called Seven Things You Can't Say About China,
and I've been listening to his podcasts as he talks
about that, and he's really concerned as everybody is, about
China making their move on Taiwan. So one of the
things he brought up the other day, and I wondered
(27:35):
to what your perspective was. It is what happens when
the day comes when China is having one of those
military exercises like they had recently where they basically surround Taiwan.
They've got all the ships in place, they got all
these people, they got planes flying overhead, and they all
of a sudden announce or don't announce that this is real,
this is not an exercise.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
You're ours now. Could we do anything about that?
Speaker 14 (27:59):
Yeah, to what the Egyptians and the Arab countries did
to Israel back on the sixties and the seventies, they
kept moving troops towards the border and forcing Israel to
respond and have to alert their forces, and then finally
they ended up coming. So I think that's how it
will go when it goes down. I don't think there's
anything we can do about it. Are deterrens right now?
(28:20):
Are also we're at a trade war with China that's
on the non military side.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
That's clear that what's.
Speaker 14 (28:24):
Taking place there so and China has always had time
in their side, and I think maybe that's their calculation
now as they fight with President Trump over these tariffs.
You have economists saying we should just go to four
hundred percent. The bottom line is we're going to have
a trade war with China. In for a penny, in
for a pounds, same thing on the military, we might
as well try to what will eventually again become razine
(28:45):
change there because time is always on their side for
a leader for life that it takes place.
Speaker 9 (28:49):
So if they decide to do that here, I think
that's a very real scenario.
Speaker 14 (28:53):
But it would mean it would mean US forces attacking
inside of China, and then that could potentially meet my
Chinese forces attacking you know, California.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
So yeah, it could be. It could get very bad,
very quickly. So I don't believe.
Speaker 14 (29:08):
I don't believe the United States would do anything at
that point in time because of that risk. I think
that they could possibly try to help the defense of it,
but firing missiles into China would be a bridge too
far that would start the Third World War in the Pacific.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Wow, you are among many people that I've heard that
you know, I would describe as you know, certainly not pacifists.
Afraid to use Bower who said, if China moves on Taiwan,
We're probably just going to have to say, okay, yeah.
Speaker 14 (29:38):
Yeah, I don't see us again sacrificing a West coast
city for it, because that's really what it will mean
as they the the terrence that the President has brought
to the world now is clearly there. I think that
it's caused countries to think twice. But if they miscalculate
whether or not we can actually do something about it.
(29:58):
You look at the military, they're probably seems to be
shipbuilding right now. We have to we have to redo
our navy, we have to do a lot more things,
so we're probably five to ten years behind that we
could actually then do something and feel that we could
protect both the naval forces that we have in the
Pacific plus our western flank, which is again the state
of California in our West coast cities. And I think
(30:19):
I don't think that we're there then, and I think
that's what's being brief to the President, which is why
if they decide to do it, it's you know, it's
just another indicator of how China actually it really is
what they're country's about.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Mike Clients, You see them pop up on cable news
or follow him on Twitter or whatever. Something big happens,
always look for your insight. Thanks for your time today.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 9 (30:38):
Thanks Jack, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
When a guy starts throwing around like in serious tones,
then they would uh, then they would attack California.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Holy crap. All right, I'm sure we'll discuss that more
later at another time.
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Speaker 1 (31:42):
Enough of that.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Enough of that, got some great text on a variety
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Speaker 1 (31:47):
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Speaker 5 (31:51):
I kind of have always known that I have a
very tall mouse.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
As a little kid, I had seven siblings, and as
kids do, we used to put stuff in our mouths
all the time.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
And it always confused me when people are like, oh.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Light bulbs are you know, don't open them in your mouth.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
They get stuck. But they never got stuck in my mouth.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
People look at.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That and they think that's something that really exists.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
I wonder if I.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Can do that. That is a woman who set the
Guinness record for having the largest mouth gap. She said,
I over had a really tall mouth. I've never heard
that term before, but I guess if you can open
your mouth lengthwise a long way, they call that a
tall mouth.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Okay, fine, right, three inches is the record. Thank you
for that, Mike.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
Wow, you can put a lot of stuff from there.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
That is fantastic.
Speaker 13 (32:37):
Every time we play a clip, I of course, go
to the Internet, which I need to stop doing, and
I googled her and.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
I'm looking at a picture of her with five Jenga
pieces staffed in her mouth.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
See five Jenga pieces.
Speaker 8 (32:51):
Five Jenga pieces.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Worth mentioning that I've still never lost a jinga in
my entire life. I never lost one game of jinga.
It might be the world's best Jinga player. A couple
of unimportant things to get to.
Speaker 13 (33:07):
Oh, here's the one with her with the can of
corn in her mouthing this tab forever.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
What do you what?
Speaker 4 (33:17):
So, Gladys, I've told this story before, Gladys, but this
is this is something. When I was a kid, I
was obsessed with getting into the Guinness Book of World Records.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I mean just obsessed. Okay, this is the only thing
I cared about.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
The Guinness Book of World Records used to be a
bigger deal than it is now, Like a lot of books.
Now everything's online, all the everything, all the time, everywhere,
all the time, like that movie.
Speaker 13 (33:41):
Every year, I was so excited to get the new
Guinness war.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Okay, so even at your age, yeah, because when the
new one came out, Man, we'd sit on the school
bus and look through that, and it was just loved
that thing and I wanted to get in it.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
So I tried all kinds of different.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Things, snatching coins off my elbow, like you put them
on your elbow, you could turn your hand and catch
him before they hit the ground.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I worked on that. I don't know how many hours.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
If I hadn't put that many hours into playing the piano,
i'd be at Carnegie Hall. But no, I was trying
to snatch quarters off my elbow. Or one time was
wearing roller skates NonStop. I forget what the world record was,
but I was going to try to do that. I'm
sure that was a lot of fun in the house
for your parents. It ended the first night. I made
it all day long, but trying to sleep in bed
(34:25):
with roller skates on, like I can't do this.
Speaker 9 (34:33):
Well.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Part of it was my mom.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Was worried about me tearing up the sheets with the
roller skates on, so I had to have my feet
hanging off the bed.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
So she's the reason I'm not in the book. She
wasn't as.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Committed as me to a Guinness World World record. She
wouldn't let me put my roller skates on the mattress.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I want to lose mom, come on.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Then I was gonna there was some record about living
in a cardboard box, which now it's like, you know,
everybody in certain streets in la or Portland could be
sitting in the records, but was living in a cardboard box.
So I did this probably like a day in the night.
And they had a slit in a cardboard box. And
I remember my mom sliding through a plate of like
eggs and French toast to me in the.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
More like you're in prison. I can't believe she went
her along with this stuff.
Speaker 13 (35:22):
So well, well this might be a dumb question. Was
it the cardboard box in the house?
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I was down in the basement. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
I did a number of them.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
It was just I wanted to be like my son
said the other day when we were driving home in
the cyber truck, he said, you like people looking at you,
don't you? And apparently I do have something in that
because I wanted to be in the Guinness World Book
of Records, and then I end up doing.
Speaker 9 (35:42):
This for a career.
Speaker 13 (35:42):
But there has to be a record you can break
that we can get you in there.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
There has to be I say you do this roller
skates one again. Yeah your sheets now, no way.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
These are my sheets. Dammit.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
If I tear them up with the roller skates, that's
my problem. Need therapy all around that whole thing. That's
funny how much time I got my goal ten seconds
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.