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May 15, 2025 35 mins

Hour 4 of A&G features...

  • Emoji & their meanings by generation
  • Money to trial attorneys 
  • Jake Tapper's book & the tootsie roll doctrine 
  • Final Thoughts! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, I'm Strong
and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Anybody that knows anything about the intelligence world knows that one.
We're going to strip it completely down because the only
thing we need is the frame. The interior and the
electronics on a standard seven four seven will never work
for the Presidential Air Force one.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
It doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
We have some air defense technology that doesn't come from Boeing.
We have a lot of technology that's on there for
the president to be connected, so it can be the
White House in the air. No chance that anything inside
that plane stays inside that plane.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
If they strip it completely down to the frame, is
it then worth what it's worth? Is the big beautiful plane.
I don't have any idea.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
I don't know either. What would be the point of
accepting a shell from Cutter and Engines, I guess?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
But yeah, any okay, all right, here is a WTF story.
Has WTF gone mainstream? I noticed the old guy on
sixty minutes used to Sunday Night.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Did you see that? Oh? Yeah, yeah? I think it
has to a large extent apparently. Anyway, here's a WTF story.
Do you see this?

Speaker 3 (01:29):
The kind of crazy people, how crazy people can get
this Texas mom has been arrested. It looked like she
was attempting to supply her middle schooler with guns, ammo
and tactical gears so he could pull off a mass
violence episode at his school.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Oh lord, that is profoundly nuts. How insane is that?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
And I just saw the picture of her and she
looks completely greatly.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Wow. They call yeah the wh is fairly popular to
your iPhone, for instance, will auto fill that if you like.
My youngest Delaney, age twenty five, decided she was swearing
too much, so uses heck in a lot. That's a
heck in good time, right.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Trying to bring my kids down a little bit in there,
cursing my high schooler, particularly him and his friends.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's just you know how it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
which is fun. I have it. It's a crutch. We
all have them. But I have friends who cannot express
to you the time of day without an F bomb.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
I think it's a I'm looking at it as a
practicing code switching. I know you and your high school
buddies talk like that so did mine. It's part of
a we're grown up or we're bonding or whatever you
got to do as a teenager.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
We're dangerous, yes, but you have.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
To have that switch in your brain, that code switches
so that you don't talk the same way at the
dinner table.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
And right right, speaking of which I think you're absolutely right. Yeah,
I you know, it's funny. Especially earlier in our careers,
friends and even family would ask, how do you remember
not to swear on the air? I mean, because that
would be very bad, And I always said the same way,

(03:20):
I remember not to drop an F bomb and from
my grandmother.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, or culture with your boss, depending on your boss
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Right, Yeah, it's actually remarkably easy, although I still, you know,
will die on the Hill of bs ought to be
able to be set on the air, and some people have.
I think I think I mus don iMOS did a
handful of times, at least in New York.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
You're gonna scream bulls at the top of your lungs
when you die, like Mel Gibson in Brave Art. You
want to say it so badly out loud, it'll be
my rosebud.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
If you're a fan of classics, cinema. Yeah, bulls kind
of overrated movies. It's a perfect yeah, I tell you what,
it's a perfect word. I love it. Anyway. What were
you talking about? Oh, I've got a couple of technology
studies a story speaking of code switching. You know, I
spent hours and hours yesterday deciding where Judy and I

(04:19):
are going to stay in London when we go to
London in August. Airb and be in it, which is
my preference. I'm not going to spend seven eight days
in a hotel room. I just and I know I'll
be out and about, but I like to find a
living room, a little kitchen in a little bedroom.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
And European hotel rooms are so freaking tiny, right, ridiculous?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, and you know I can afford a bit of
an airbnb with's a living room, as I said, So
I'm going to do it anyway. But committee, hello, committing
to which one? I found so stressful? What do you
got going around and around and around? What's that? What
if you got it wrong? What would happen? You can
get you killed in your sleeper quoter? Now it'd be

(05:01):
maybe a little noisier than the other one, or it's
just five blocks to walk to Buckingham Parish instead of
three blocks or whatever, and I just I found it
too stressful. But anyway, I finally pulled the trigger and
looking forward to it. But speaking of technology, yet another
one of these Do they run this quarterly? Is it
some sort of requirement warning issue to anyone using this

(05:24):
smiley face emoji to older people, not gen Z. A
smile face means you're conveying that you're happy. Yeah, but
gen Z he takes this grinning face to convey sarcasm
or irony. And then it has the inevitable twenty three
year old employee who says, at first I thought my
coarchers were being called and sarcastic to me, and then

(05:47):
I realized when they said a thumbs up, they really
mean thumbs up because he is a sarcastically and the
tone of the article is always therefore, you're you. Older
people really ought to be careful in a finger and out.
They should switch to the way we do it as
opposed the other way around. Yes, I would say to
Hovey's at BESHI, twenty one year old intern, excuse me,

(06:08):
I run this place. I own this place. People like
me run the world. So you figured out.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
My son sends me the emoji with the tears streaming
down the face. Yes, at what seemed to me inappropriate times,
So it clearly means something different to him as a.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Is he a sophomore or a freshman? This is early
high school. Did he seem to go to high school
last year? I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I think he's a freshman anyway, the ass weapon cause
he's a freshman in high school. It seems to mean
something different to freshmen in high school than all the
other adults who ever send me the emoji with tears
streaming down the face.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yes, kay, Katie, you're not old and bitter. Well, don't
go that better.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
But several of my young her friends send me that,
which usually would mean like you're crying legitimately, like you were.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Really touched by something, or you know my dog just died,
or I heard about your mom or whatever.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, it means something's hilarious now, like you're crying you're laughing.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Song Okay, that's what I kind of picked up on.
I thought this is highly inappropriate. Does this mean you're laughing?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Well, yeah, I cracked. You have a laughing till you're crying, right.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
They do. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
I cracked a joke to one of my girlfriends and
I sent her that and she sent me one of
those back, and I was like, did something just happen?

Speaker 1 (07:31):
What's wrong?

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Like, that's exactly that what I have. And I thought, oh, geez,
I hurt somebody's feelings.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
Yeah, exact same thing came over me. I was like,
what did I do? No, that's just their laughing face.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Now are were talking about the tears streaming down? Yeah? See,
we used that in my family a lot. Like I
didn't get the wordle so really upset.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, but you're you're, you're, you're, you're being sarcastic about
how upset you are. Yes, exaggerating, but it's kind of
the opposite meaning for my son. Okay, now I get it.
I'm laughing so hard, I'm crying even though they've got
one of those already.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
My favorite texting story of all time, and it will
be for the rest of my life, was the woman
who said, I'm sorry I didn't get back to you.
My mom just passed away, and her friend replied, lol,
thinking it meant lots of love to me. They no
longer speak and I'm l olling now is the ironic
concluded I'm sorry anyway. So to get like this, I

(08:28):
feel like lol is.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Like charity laugh or you know what is that term
where you you laugh, you know somebody sympathy sympathy laugh
at this point and I and then I don't know
how to respond with a that actually is freaking funny.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah I will. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
I usually write out because I don't use emoji's because
I'm a grown up. I usually write out. I actually
laughed out loud at that. That was very like that much.
If it's something really.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Long tedious, you're such a boomer, or you just send
the word funny with zero punctuations, so you can't tell
if you're being serious or not.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
I have done that. I will frequently respond ha, because
I was laughing lots of oz. Yeah. So, but there's
more linguists studying emojis emoji, I think I'm supposed to say,
I'm not Japanese all right. Have also pointed out that
the symbols new meetings can often emerge from slang that

(09:30):
older users might not be aware of. For example, older
social media users might see the skull emoji as a
literal symbol of death or a sign that someone is
figuratively dead, isn't dead, tired or dead to me whatever.
But for the younger users, the skull is used to
say I'm dead, which means that they found something hilarious
and have died laughing.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Oh okay, the skull is that was really funny. I'm
gonna hit somebody.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
I can. I can think of people i'd hit with
that today would be very confused, while the spark emoji
is frequently someone being sarcastic about how something, how good
something is, and too much sarcasm. But here's the part
I found really interesting. So I like, I send to like.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
If somebody says, hey, I got that promotion at work,
I respond with an eggplant and then sprays of water.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Is that the proper thing? Good lord? Yes, yes, do that? Yeah,
that's perfect. Oh my god. Or if you give a
thumbs up and a sparkle, they'll think you're mocking them,
which is again, we run the world. We old people
run the world. You adapt us. But is your youngster
texting about cannabis, for instance, sometimes known as pot or marijuana,

(10:44):
the shamrock, the leaf, the maple leaf, the lemon, the grape,
the watermelon, the strawberry, the cherry, the pineapple, the dog face,
the candy, the cake, the ice cream cone, and the
cookie can all be references to cannabis.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Because I understand it. The egg plant is the traditional
vegetable of success, and so if somebody has some good news.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
Keep believing that jack and use it frequently.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Jack. These emoji can be references to cocaine, a rocket ship,
a fish, a gas pump, a snowman or a snowflake.
They're all sorts of drugs. Uh sexting. The peach which
looks like God forgive me a woman's hind end, or

(11:38):
the eggplant, the water you mentioned, or cherries. Let's see.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
I was embarrassingly baffled the other day when I got
a text message from a friend that said kiss my
and then there was a peach emoji, and I'm going, this,
my peach, What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (11:55):
I said, somebody with a cherries tattoo on them? What
does that mean?

Speaker 1 (11:59):
You, Katie? Is that a girl? What's that mean? A
woman's cherry?

Speaker 5 (12:03):
Cherries were trendy.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Late nineties early two thousands, but I don't know if
that is meaning.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
What was the message, delicious fruit? It was just a
cute package.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Okay, so okay, it didn't mean anything. All right, that's fine,
doesn't need to.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
We're looking it up. Oh.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Often associated with sensuality, feminine power, innocence, and use.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Okay. According to an Instagram post, that's a stupid tattoo.
Don't get that and if you haven't, get it removed?
Coming up? Jack in a story related to the bullspit train,
the incredible theft that we were talking about earlier today.
If you didn't hear it, grab our three armstrong you
getty on demand from today? How did trial attorneys factor

(12:51):
into that? They're a huge factor. Nobody ever talks about this.
Don't get me started. He's going to get us started,
all of us. Stay tuned art.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Today was former NFL tight end Rob Gronkowski's thirty sixth birthday.
I can't believe you remembered sent his friends to him.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
He's a probably guy h man And I didn't like that.
You just point in the joke. Would you like another one? Yes? Well.

Speaker 6 (13:22):
Speaking at the Saudi US investment for him this week,
Elon Musk said that the goal of his artificial intelligence
company XAI is to answer questions like, quote, where is
a universe going. Though for most people who use AI,
they to ask questions like what if a giraffe had boobs?

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Silly questions. In other words, yes, yes, I would agree. Boy.
I've continued to just love using chat GPT planning a
trip and just it's just so much better than what
came before it. Anyway, if you have a favorite, I
respect that too. I would like to get into groc Friends,
which comes via the Twitter machine, among others. So we've

(14:05):
been talking on and off today about the bullspit Train
in cal Unicornia, which is one of the greatest thefts
of taxpayer dollars in the history of the universe and
one of the great failures of democracy and one thing
that people don't talk about. And I'm not sure why exactly.
Maybe it's just a little less sooteric, little dry. Is
the incredible power trial lawyers have in California in particular

(14:28):
wherever Democrats hold sway. In short, but the bullspit Train
has been the Enriching Lawyers Act of whenever it passed.
In that there are so many eminent domain cases and
where the government takes your property but has to compensate

(14:50):
you fairly. Between eminent domain and real environmental suits and
fake environmental suits, and labor disputes, and you know a
dozen other things I can't think of. It has been
an incredible, just fire hose of money to trial attorneys.
Came across this from Caleb BArch in The National Review.

(15:15):
Due to the beneficial relationship try lawyers and their packs
share with democratic causes, most try lawsuits only back progressive issues.
Major trial lawyer packs have spent twenty nine million dollars
in the last eight years, twenty nine million dollars on

(15:35):
political action committees and that sort of thing, ninety nine
percent of it to support Democratic candidates and committees. Since
twenty seventeen, ninety nine percent. The consumer advocacy group Alliance
for Consumers revealed and report released Wednesday, AFC outlines the

(15:56):
web of federal political action committees funded by major trial lawyers,
including they name a bunch that if you've not heard
of them, you haven't heard of them all together. Since
twenty seventeen, these packs have put more than ten million
dollars towards supporting Democratic candidates for the Senate, around eight
million more towards supporting Democratic candidates for the House, and
substantial sums to support other major progressive entities, and most

(16:18):
try lawyers supporting Democratic candidates and causes enjoy a positive
feedback loop. More regulations mean more tender for lucrative lawsuits,
and more Democrats in power mean more public contracts to
represent plaintiffs and said lucrative lawsuits.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I don't know why this fits in also, but as
a guy who's dealt with divorce laws in California, the
lawyers get together and write laws to where you have
to have lawyers to do things to get divorced, so
you have to hire more lawyers, and that seems to
happen more in blue states.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, I'm sure people in the know could come up
with twenty different examples. But like the death penalty in California,
we still give the death penalty, but we never execute anybody,
So you get all the expense which goes to the
lawyers of a death penalty trial, and then all the
appeals and the rest of it's all designed to enrich them. Fantastic.
Well that's a happy note. What are you gonna do?

(17:11):
Armstrong and Getty got a possible explanation for why Sean P.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Didy Combs is the guy he is. We've learned in
a courtroom today trying to decide how to discuss this
on the air bit. But before we get to that,
so I am going to read at least some of
that new Jake Tapper book about the Biden presidency that
I unfortunately already paid for months ago before I decided

(17:40):
that I'm angry at Jake Tapper for lying to us
all these years.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Boy, and you're not a drunk, so you can't even
plead drunk purchase.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Well, I just thought it would be good for the show.
I thought, man, there's gonna be stuff in there, and
it still might be. For instance, I've got one for
you here just a minute. But well, let's start with this.
This is Jake Tapper finally copping to the fact that
maybe he didn't go as far as he should have
and trying to dig into the president's mental health.

Speaker 7 (18:08):
I think some of the criticism is fair, to be
honest of me, certainly, I'm not going to speak for
anybody else, but knowing then what I know now, I
look back at my coverage during the Biden years, and
I did cover some of these issues, but not enough.
I look back on it with humility.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Molly Hemingway tweets out that Jake Tapper hired a crisis
PR group that has repped Elizabeth Holmes, Jeffrey Tuban, Anthony Wieners,
and others to teach him how to be nicer to
his critics during this thing. So they apparently, he and
the publisher apparently believe they're in such a bad spot

(18:50):
with the whole The British are coming, the British coming. Yeah,
they're already here. What are you talking about.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Everybody's been talking about this for months. You don't get
to be Paul Revere on this, all right? Well, and
not only was he not Paul Revere, I mean he
was like King George. He would I should have covered
it more. Uh No, you forcefully defended the opposite point
of view and belittled people who are trying to speak

(19:18):
the plain truth. Right, So yeah, I get it. So
they've gone from thinking, oh, this is going to be
an exciting book of revelations that will be praised on
both sides of the aisle, now realizing, oh my god,
we're a punchline to some people.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, and I'll be interested to see how it lands
when it comes out next week. It's possible it doesn't
make much noise when it comes out next week because
all the talking. But for instance, I'm a big fan
of Jonah Goldberger the Dispatch, though I do think he
actually has Trump derangement syndrome, which he would yell at
me for. He wrote a long piece yesterday about how

(19:54):
I think Jake Tapper's being unfairly attacked, and Jake Tapper
did a good job of blah blah blah and this
and that and whatever. You work at CNN and you
guys are friends. Fine, yeah, fine. Jonah might be the
classic example of somebody I think is extremely bright, and
when I agree with them, I agree wholeheartedly.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
But at least thirty to forty percent of the time,
I think he's a just I almost use an unfortunate term.
I think he is misguided.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Wow, you really think in all those interviews where he
would tepidly bring up a poll number shows many voters
don't think Joe Biden should be president again, and then
he credits that for really challenging the White House, he
would take their spin at face value and move on.
When everybody in America was looking at Joe Biden on
a daily basis and saying that guy should not be president.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, I think Jonah needs to maybe leave the elite
intellectual circles he's been running in for a lifetime and
maybe hang out with some people whose hands get dirty
at work for ten minutes. I think that would help.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Them any Jonah did say that he had read the
first five chapters of the book and it's really interesting,
and I thought, okay, gool, maybe there is interesting stuff
in there, like this that came out yesterday from the
Jake Tapper book about Joe Biden.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Some members of Biden's cabinet didn't.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Believe he could be relied on to perform at two
am during an emergency in the final year of his presidency,
and that their access to him had dropped off considerably. Now,
I gotta believe that's some of the more major secretaries
that count, because I doubt some of the minor secretaries

(21:36):
had much access to him. Ever, so for it to
drop off considerably, that means you once had considerable contact.
So I I just wonder if it's not like some
of your you know, your secretaries of State, you know,
your secretary's of Defense, that sort of thing, that maybe
their access dropped off quite a bit. And thought I
don't know if he could handle an emergency if he
shows up. And as you pointed out earlier, two am,

(21:57):
how about noon on any given day, based on the
way he sometimes was, and all the times they canceled meetings,
That's what Mark Alpern was talking about. Said, all the
times that they would just out of nowhere counsel a
meeting that he was supposed to have it one in
the afternoon.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Why do you think that was? Yeah, yeah, well there was.
There is no question that he was. Biden was completely
hidden from anybody but the inner circle, the inner inner
circle by the end.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
And so mentioned this earlier in the show, I'm trying
to change my I wish America would change their their
thinking on this from I'm angry at Jake Tapper to hey,
secretary of State or sect deaf or whoever the heck
you secretaries were. Didn't you need to come and tell
us if you didn't think the president of the United
States could handle a crisis, shouldn't you be telling this this?

(22:48):
You kept it a secret so you could stay in
your job, maybe maybe for a whole nother term.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
If he won, which yeah, there's a hell of a
lot of that. Of course, dang it. There had to
be times.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
I don't know if anybody ever admitted out loud, there
had to be times where the Secretary of State Anthony
Blincoln thought, if China fired on Taiwan right now, I
would have to make the decision.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yes, yeah, I'm sure he'd thought that because I can't
talk to the president well, and let's face it, not
to get off the topic, but Biden is a wishy washy.
We better not equivocator back when he was sharp, right,
so you know. And then one of you good brilliant
folks pointed out via text, I think it was that,

(23:33):
you know, maybe the cabinet looked at the alternative Kamala
Harris and her in her circle and thought, we're better
off with Biden when he's cogent and his circle of
advisors than that moron and her her half with team.
Who is his sec deaf? For some reason, that out

(23:54):
of my head, right, Lincoln, Oh sect deaf? I'm sorry? Uh,
who's Biden's Secretary defense? Shouting it at the radio? Lloyd Austin?

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Right, So yeah, I'll bet Blincoln and Austin thought, if
we have to will handle it.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
It would be better us than whoever Comma chooses. Lloyd,
I haven't seen him for a week and a half.
Do you have any idea where he is? No, I don't.
I thought you did, Austin and.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
In his very low voice, oh incredibly, Okay, here's a
p Diddy update, Katie. Do you have the details on this?
Hanson said it during the commercials. Joe hasn't heard this yet.
Where did this? Where did this come from? This come
from a different trial? Where'd you say it came from Hanson?

Speaker 5 (24:43):
He won't, Tom, it's there.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
There was a separate case that involved another woman that
he had had sexual relations with.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Okay, so here's the story. I'll relay it as you were,
as you told it to me in uh. In a
different case, this woman had testified that when Sean Combs
was forcing himself upon her, she became aware of how
tiny he was and thought, oh good, at least it
won't physically damage me that much, which might be And

(25:16):
I'm not just saying this for selacious reasons. People are
immediately thinking, would she describe it as a Tutsi role?

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Yeah, that's what really set him off when she called
it a Tutsi role, that.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
That might be where the psychology comes from of how
he has to be this incredibly dominant and abusive to women.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Wow. Wow, the tutsi roll doctrine wasn't Weinstein in the
similar situation, Michael, does that sound familiar?

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yes? I God, that's disgusting and maybe somewhat understandable, but no,
get over it or something.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
To understand something is not to condone it. Yeah wow, okay, wow,
So that's why he had to be the dominant sex
god ringmaster make up for the his tutsi roll them situation? Katie,

(26:16):
Why is your microphone off right now?

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Because what am I supposed to say to your tutsi roldrom?

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Hey guys, if you ever think you're having a bad day,
you can always look back and go Nobody has ever
called me a tutsi role.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
You don't know that. You don't know that. Yeah wow,
I almost said something truly unfortunate. This is finally developed
restraint late in life.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Wow. Venturio's girlfriend, who's on the stand right now and
being cross examined before we take a break, testified that
she occasionally watched him have sex with other women, and
that happened at least two or four times. That is
his defense lawyers trying to make that argument that they're swingers.
We go both directions, all kinds of different directions. It's
just a bunch of adult swinging. That's not a crime.

(27:01):
That's what they're trying to get to there.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Right right. When it comes to the specifics of sex trafficking,
that won't matter. But one other thing. And look, I'm
not a professional obviously, defense attorney, but I've known them,
I've studied them, I've read about them, and I've been
on some juries. There are a certain number of jurors who,
if you take the Russian propaganda approach, the ultimate goal

(27:28):
of a lot of Soviet now Russian propaganda, a lot
of it is to convince you of something in particular,
but a lot of it is to make you feel
like you have no idea what is true, and there's
no way to figure it out, so you despair from
keeping from seeking the truth. Well, some defense techniques in
a trial is just to have the jurors so confused

(27:51):
they think I got all sorts of doubts, never mind
a reasonable baue. I don't know who to believe, I
don't know what's going on. I've lost track of who
is force and who and what does sex trafficking mean?

Speaker 3 (28:01):
And again right then you throw in a dash of
she got twenty million dollars, and I think you could
say whatever.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's impossible to do for a variety of reasons,
ethical and practical. But I wish there was some sort
of authoritative book. Maybe there is, come to think of it,
I'll bet there is. I'm sorry, I'm just having a
conversation with myself. But the question watching that, the question

(28:31):
of why jurors vote to a quit for bad reasons.
I would like to see some sort of statistical study
on like ten to two juries, for instance, nine to three,
or even more overwhelming ten to two to eleven to
one reasons. Is it like the Twelve Angry Men one

(28:54):
brave iconoclast Gregory Peck? I think standing up for real
justices he season.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
I seldom think that's probably what's going on there. It's
the one everybody's like slapping their forehead. What do you
mean you still don't feel like they're guilty?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah? Or is it soft heads unable to think critically
who are swayed by the defense attorney just confusing.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Something eyes It makes me think he couldn't do that
sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Ah right, Yeah, I was the one jury I was on.
There was one woman who was just a nice young
gal in her twenties, but I felt for her because
life is always going to be hard. She was just dumb.
She was really not smart. There was one gal who's
a bit of a half wit who had these weird

(29:42):
beliefs that she would speak in the jury room and
we'd all be like looking at each other, like I
don't even know how to begin arguing with that.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
His ring fingers longer and his index finger and those
people tend not to be rapist, so.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Stuff like that, stuff like that. And then there are
one gal who just was so devoid of life experience.
She you know, I won't get into the details. I've
told the stories before, but and that was on a
single jury. I think twenty five percent of the jury
was It was like leading a sheep to the trough

(30:18):
to what a sheep eat. I don't even know sheeap food. Clearly,
trying to get them to a reasonable verdict was like
trying to herd.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Cattle, very much like leading his sheep to the trough,
the old sheep trough.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
We finished strong.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Next time, I just came across this. I don't know
what CBS News reporter, but I just saw this CBS
News reporter says Wall Street Journals twenty twenty four report
on Biden's decline should have won the Pulitzer Prize. Remember
when the Wall Street Journal did that big piece he
got just got swammed. I think that's the one where

(30:58):
Joe Scarborough lost his mind and.

Speaker 8 (31:00):
Said a few if you don't think this is the
best version of you know, I think that was over
the Wall Street Journal thing, and this CBS reporter I'll
have to dig up who that actually was, says the
Wall Street Journal should have won the Pulitzer for that.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Why because they said what should have been obvious. But anyway,
well they broke from the cowardly cowardly pack. Yeah, that
doesn't seem that admirable to me.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
No, I think I have time to properly describe this.
Maybe by tomorrow we'll have the oral arguments in from
today's Supreme Court dust up over not just birthright citizenship
that's the topic, but this system we've got where one
judge can hold everything up.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Is that working force or not? Yeah? I read a
blow by blow description and it was about three quarters
the way through the oral arguments. The reporter said, they've
only touched on the birthright citizenship thing in past, so
it's the big issue. Yeah, the issue is can a
single federal judge issue of nationwide injunction anytime they want?

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Well, Tim Sander for our friend, he said, the arguments
against this system typically boiled down to let the government
keep acting illegally until the Supreme Court rules.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
And he said that's just not a good idea. That
is where you'd be.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
And it takes a long time, as we all know,
for things to work their way up to the Supreme Court.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, there are levels of the judiciary between those, but
I confess I'm curious to hear people learned, people suggest solutions.
Gentlemen's Final Fults manifest with Armstrong and Getty. I see

(32:50):
you know your judo. Well, here's your host for final thoughts,
Joe Getty. Let's get a succulent Chinese meal of final
thoughts now from everybody on the crew. Michael Angelo pressing
the buttons. What's your final thought, Michael, Well, my self
esteem took a hit today when Jack said that lol
is sort of a sympathy laugh.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
I get a lot of lols in response to my jokes.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
So anyway doesn't mean it always is. I feel like
it is when I get one or when I give one. Yeah,
I'm I generally mostly sometimes Here Katie Green are esteemed Newswoman.
As a final thought, Katie.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
I am joining forty five thousand other people watching this
eagle cam and it is bringing me joy regularly.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
It makes you happy? Makes you happy? Jack a final
thought for if something's.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Really funny, I reply with a holy crap, that's funny
or something like that, because I want to make sure
they don't just think it's a excuse me.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Lol. Yeah, here's your fascining. My final thought is you're fascinating.
Bald eagle. Fact of the day. The juvenile bald egle
is bigger than mom and dad.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
I've noticed that.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
What it's it's partly I think they're feathers. Their plumage
makes them look huge as defense.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Oh, we usually bigger than shrink.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah. Yeah, we'll see bald eagles semi regularly in South
Carolina and the junior The juveniles look like some god awful,
enormous burden. You're like, what is that until you realize, Yeah,
it's a baby bald eagle. Yeah, learned something. Every day
women are bigger than men too in the bald eagle community.
Can't wait to apply this knowledge in my everyday life.
Are not trans eagles regular men in woman eagles.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Armstrong in getting wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
So many people to think, so little time go to Armstrong,
getdi dot com. We got holings, we got Katie's corner,
we got swag, gay do pick up one of the
light hoodies the perfect weight, take my TUTSI roll out
of here. See tomorrow. God bless her America. I'm strong
and get you what a personal privilege? That didn't make

(34:56):
a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
I just didn't, so it'll do my Uh okay, so
let's go out with a bang, shoot down.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
I'm a woman. Now, I'm a woman. Did you hear that? God,
you are not a fetching broad? That was a little blunt.
I feel pretty well good. Everyone should on that high note.
Thanks you all very much, Armstrong and Getty
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