May 16, 2025 • 35 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- C.O.W. Clips of the Week & AI songs!
- The Industrial Revolution gets a bad rap
- Getting your blood drawn & a master manipulator
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty arm Strong, and
Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Honestly serious question, I should put this to the listeners.
I don't even know if I want to be this
kind of person or not. I'm not a boycott person.
I'm not a well I'm not a boycott person. But
I don't think I could have listened to that screed
from Springsteen and stayed for the rest of the concert.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It was just one step too.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Far for me.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
For me, i'd held my breath and waited it out
like a painful dental procedure, than when the second chapter began.
That's when I would have said, all right, f this,
pardon me, I'm out. The painful part is you can't
boo them, because you'll think you're just saying Bruce well right.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
As I mentioned earlier, The part that bothers me the
most is it's got that whole I'm cool and all
you people are cool that agree with me, and we're
the cool people, and people that don't agree with this
are uncool people. That is enough to drive me out
of the arena.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Not just uncool but stupid and down with fascism. Right,
oh good lord? And then you agree, of telecasters.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Your point earlier just from a I mean, you know,
just narrow Bruce Springsteen's audience thing, he used to be
the champion of the working class, and the working class
is clearly maga. I mean they're like sixty five percent
of his audience is probably maga.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Now, if you could take every character from every single
Bruce Springsteen's song and animate them, they would vote in
the eightieth percentile for Trump. Yeah that's correct. Yeah, what
what he's just He is a very wealthy, creeative artist,
a very old, very wealthy creative artist who's utterly out
(02:04):
of touch with the people he thinks he represents. You know,
the most annoying, pretentious thing is that ever happened? And
this was how many Christmases a go, now, maybe five?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
When him and Obama Thank you gladys, When him and
Obama did that DVD book set thanging Did you.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Ever see any of that?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And then the bookstores you could get this big, giant
coffee table book and it had Bruce and Obama's faces
on the cover, laughing, And then pictures of them together
having a conversation about America, and then there's a video
that goes with it and stories from Bruce. I mean,
it's just it was the most over the top, two
completely out of touch rich people.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It was vomit worthy.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh yeah, what would be the example, like the reverse.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
For the other crowd.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I mean it'd be like if Trump and I don't
even know what it would be Obama springs to sitting
around like bathed in their own self enjoyment is Ah,
it's just too much.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
He either missed that or blotted it out because it
was too terrible. I send you a Lincoln in white.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It's got a real and he lebo. It's so artistic,
you know, we're.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
A the whole thing. I hate everything about it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
If I ever walked into somebody house and they got
that on their coffee table, I'm not even gonna say
anything about why I'm leaving.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I'll just turn and walk out, like where'd he go?
I'm setting fire to it. You're gonna make a stubber,
all right. So Final hour of the Week, got a
lot of stuff to squeeze in. You gonna have to
choose carefully. There's fifteen pounds a show for a five
pound bag. But let's kick it off with the Friday tradition.
It's fun look back at the week that was. It's
(03:49):
cow clips of the week. You're saying, he's dead. Lights
are blinking, the sirens are turning. Whip the week.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
America, I love, that has been a beacon of hope
and liberty for two hundred and fifty years is currently
in the hands of a corrupt, incompetent and treesonistric administration.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
The drastic d escalation in the trade war between the
United States and China, so there is a chance to
rebalance together. This is not a political conference, this is
a business conference. I want to make a deal with Iran.
I want to do something of as possible.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
There's two steps. Is a very very nice step and
there's a violent step. I don't want to do the
second step.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
The equipment that we use, much of it, we can't
buy parts for now. We have to go on eBay
and buy parts.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Any of the representatives that were there, you lay a
finger on them, we are going to have a problem.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You can intimidate me, come back, give me a break.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I was one of a green uniform barbitu rel agent
for five years before she was even born.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
The bottom line is the was lying. I think some
of the criticism is fair. To be honest of me again,
it makes me mental. It was clear with me. Now.
Two of the heroic reporters were covering this intensely during
the Biden years. We're coming up close to the one
(05:19):
trillion dollar amount is lost every year a fraud. You
saw it coming?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh yeah, I mean it was like they threw money
in the air and just let people run around and
grab it.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Sow.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I'm Dinny Combs.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
The so called freak offs happened weekly, many of the
sessions photographed and filmed. She even testified about him, you know,
threatening to blow up Wrapper Kid Cutty's part.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I think he convicted. Trump's gonna impart me President. Could
I asked you a question.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
What I'm in London and I just paid for this
damn fat drug I take?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I said, it's not working.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Lit more expensive than slower than a bus.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Hanson has been working on AI songs about California's idiotic
just spectacularly evil theft bullet train more expensive and slower
than bus. That was the jingle. I wrote, Oh, that's fantastic,
fleshed out via AI. That has to be that has
(06:33):
to catch on. The bullet train more expensive and slower
than a bus. They play fifteen for us right, bullet.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Train borens expay a body down the drain, said, but
it will make news.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I'm not like less of a man. The bullet train.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
More expense, so man slower than a bus?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Hop on d it? What was I saying before you laugh?
I laughed. If it's hilarious, let's run that five million times? Please?
I love I hear it again right now.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
I love that Hanson has become like the show's AI voice,
like we can't hear him, but he just sends us
all of these nuggets.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Especially when Newsom finally announces and he's trying to make
his way through the Democratic primary.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Every time we mention him, it's got to be that hook.
The bullet train.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
More expensive and slower than of us.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Bullet train.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Born tax, pay a bonnet down the train you won't
see or.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Said, but he will make news look.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Like let's super Man.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
The bullet train.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
More expensive, that slow than a bus.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
That is just gold.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Oh, I want to be the person who plays a
tambourine on that song. All I do is I just
hit it on my hip and shake it.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah. Hey, it's good work if you can get it. Hey,
let's uh is this is thirteen the Metal one Michael
play that it's a.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Scammaboon dogle, a waste of our time from Mercy Bakersfield.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Who would say, right.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Than a play more expensive than a bus? It's a
song cost this fuss.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I think it's interesting cost getting into economic principles in the.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Middle of the ah. You don't hear that so much metal.
I like the fact that AI, which is all knowing,
pronounces Merced merst even though there is no word mersed
the only way you would ever write me e r
c ed in English languages. You know the town of Merced,
But AI, with all its genius, doesn't know that.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You haven't walked into the mall and found yourself. You
look around and I was mersed. No, no, I haven't
you know.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I like to medal, but I like the airy, dopey,
poppy feel of the Heart Family issue. Yeah, it's just
so relentlessly pleasant in describing the utterly indefensible theft of
billions and billions of hundreds of billions of dollars bullied
(09:39):
hop on, bore a body down the drink. I feel
like I'm but it will make news.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
I'm not like less of a man, more expensive than
slow than a bus.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Bullboard, folks, the California Bullet Train coming to you in
the year twenty seventy six.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Well, that's the other part that was great is that
they said most of it will be done in two decades.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
If I didn't even say all of it two decades
from now, MERCE said to Gilroy, Palmdale, Gilroy to Palmdale,
Oh all right right, all right, Palmdale. Yes, check out
a map, folks, if you're not familiar with the sprawling
geography of cal Unicornia.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Because Hanson loves when I suggest things that give him
more work.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Could we get a shirt? Could we get a shirt?
The bullet train more expensive and slower than a bus.
I will wear that shirt. I will wear it all.
I will wear it all the time. It's got to
have the California the cal Unicornia state flag on it too. Yeah,
walking billboard right here?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, well I love that, fitting in with the Bruce
Springsteen working man thing.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I listened to a podcast yesterday with Senator Phil Graham.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Anybody remember him? Senator from Texas Republican PhD in economics.
I didn't remember that he ran for president a couple
of times. Didn't get a whiff. You know why, because
he was like a serious guy about small government and
fiscal sanity. We want a game show host, yay. But
he's got a new book out about the myths of
(11:19):
he'd written a book called The Myth of American Inequality
a couple of years ago, and he's got a new
one out called The Triumph of Economic Freedom that point
out some interesting things about kind of the whole Bruce
Springsteen thing. Really that is I thought, really interesting. Maybe
I'll pass that along among other things on the way,
stay here.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
This guy's I read that the Denver Airport was recently
hit with an outage and some pilots couldn't contact air
traffic control for six minutes. Meanwhile Newer Airport was like
six minutes, please cost when he hit six days that.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Way six minutes?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, air traffic controller in the Wall Street Journal today
talking about how close call that he had a week
or so ago at Newark and now he's really worried
there's going to be a crash soon because of these
various outages and he just barely caught one and was
able to straighten it out two planes that were headed.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Toward each other.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
He can't do this endlessly where you have you know,
two minutes here, two minutes there, drop out at busy airports.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
No, No, there are problems top to bottom with the system.
I believe that firmly, so I mentioned this.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I was listened to a podcast interview with former Senator
Phil Graham, who I did not have on my radar
in my life. I wish I had because I actually
saw our friend Tim Sanderfer, who he had on earlier
in the show.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
If you missed that, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty
on the Men.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Tim Sanderfer changed his registration in California to Republicans so
he could vote for Phil Graham when Phil Graham briefly
ran for president back in the day, although he never
got to because Phil Graham dropped out because he's one
of those people, like a lot of politicians, it's like
actually serious about governance and spending and dealing with things,
(13:06):
and those people never.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Get the nomination. Yeah, he's not a pandering whore. Yes,
And he's got a book out right now and he's
in his eighties. Now he's a very old guy. He
was a senator from Texas.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
The myth of American inequality came out a couple of
years ago, and he's got a new one, the triumph
of Economic Freedom, which sounds like very similar, like restructuring,
hoping it gets attention again.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
But one of the things he pointed out, and I've
never heard this before, that.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
For all kinds of different like artistic, cultural reasons and
some economic reasons, the industrial Revolution gets a bad rap
and always has and it continues till this to this
day of this idea that there was before the the
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Industrial Revolution, there was some sort of man, it was
great to be a farmer out in the fields, living
the good life, free of you know, being bothered and
and everything like that in exploitation. And then the Industrial
Revolution came along and forced everybody into this exploitive world
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and all this poverty, and.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
That is the narrative.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yep. He points out that a lot of that has
to do with Charles Dickens and a number of other
people who wrote that story, and it just kind of
caught on and has lived forever, ignoring the fact that
the reason people flowed into the factories and everything like
that is because the life they were living was incredibly
exploitive and brutal on the farms, almost always farming mostly
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for someone else, and them getting all your work and
you barely getting by, and you living with like fifteen
people in one house and half the kids died, and
all these other statistics that got so much better after
the Industrial Revolution, right, and that prior to the Industrial Revolution,
I thought this was really interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
The idea of what do we do about the poor
people started with the Industrial Revolution.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It was the first time anybody had ever even considered
the fact that maybe we could do away with people
who are just so incredibly poor and have such miserable lives.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Prior to that, it was just assumed.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
That most of us did and would and always will
and because there was like a chance that maybe you
could get out of that. Ever since then, there's been
this weird belief that it's horrible that there are poor
people that are being exploited and have rough lives and
we need to have a war against that and eliminate it.
It's only because things got so good that you could
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even have that conversation, So we've kind.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Of have it completely backwards. Our view of that whole thing. Right,
what's really interesting to me is the sort of person
who becomes a scribbler hasn't changed a ton, I don't
think in one hundred and fifty years. In that you
have something built that's amazing and complex and incredibly productive,
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and it has some fairly serious flaws, and people point
out those flaws, and to a very very large extent,
they get fixed. But the view of history, because it's
written by the very sort of person who is in
the mainstream media today, lionizes the fixers of the problems
who deserve credit, but it makes into monsters the designers
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of the giant system that was incredibly successful but just
needed some tweaks. Life got so much better. If it
was inevitable, all the good stuff would happen.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Right, Life got so much better for the average human
being ever since the Industrial Revolution.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
But it's portrayed as a horror mostly yes, because of
its pretty notable imperfections.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
But yeah, but the imperfections and the imperfections they were
dealing with before. Right, children are dying, they were being exploited,
they were short life spans, et cetera, et cetera. Before
the Industrial Revolution, are strong and getty, how are you
feeling about Friday?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Huh? Excited? Gonna party? I'm gonna party. I don't believe
you're gonna party. Probably not party.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Probably take care of my kids, figure out some meals,
do some laundry, get to bed on time.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I usually get to bed early on a Friday. See yes,
every night of the week. For some reason, at this
point in my life, I cannot say the same. So
I started my day with a early morning jabbing. Had
to have the standard of blood work done before my
visit with my doctor, and got an appointment in all
what you need to do these days, and my wife,
who's like a week off on the cycle of going
(17:44):
to see the doctor, had her blood work done at
the same place, and she said, oh, I hope you
get You know what's her name. She's the little gal.
She's so bubbly and so cheery and so wonderful. So
I got there today and there she is. Not only
is she cute and bubbly and cherry Jesus, and she
she let us know we are discussing the nice weather,
et cetera, blah blah blah, And I thought, okay, great,
(18:06):
Yeah that's the gal. Git. He was talking about and
then out comes from the bowels of the building, a
darker present, this big. There's no reason to go into
description A large A woman of large.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
You know what's interesting years. I have no idea where
the dis direction is this story is going. I don't
know if we were about to get off on how
Christian she was or now. I don't know we're going
to got to hang out.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
For the ride. That's that's the brilliant that's the brilliance
of my artistry. I'm hanging on. I'm hanging on. I
don't know what it's about. The old gal radiating hatred
for humanity from every pore. She was glowing with hatred
of humankind, just visible on our face. And they're book
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for bottomists.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Yes, uh, Joe, we we refer to those large margin
charge So yes, well, large Marge was in charge and something.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Oh give me the sweet little girl. I'll give me
the sweet little girl. But no, no, I got the
mountain of malevolence. You don't request, I request.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Well, remember I used to have my guy Pong, my
non Pong, and I liked Pong, and I would I would,
I would show up and say I want Pong, So
I'll wait however long it takes until Pong comes up.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, the place I go, you know, I only go
like once every six months was a year. And they're
not consistent. They're a bunch of different gals, and I
think one dude wants who worked there. But and if
I have the one that doesn't look like they've been
in prison, you could say that, can I can I
get the one who is gonna jab me with the
needle whether I need it or not? Can I not
(19:47):
have her? Yeah? She actually is pretty good. It was fine,
but you know, I found myself like trying to manage
the relationship with being really pleasant and upbeat without being gush,
you know, because if you're in a foul mood, and
she was clearly in a foul mood. If you're in
a foul mood, the super chip or person who's trying
(20:08):
to bring you out of it, that's not helping. So
I said, all right, you just got to play your
cards right. That my job. It's like, you know, you're
being robbed and you're just trying to look you can
have my wallet and all. It's just this. I'll end
it here. Look at the lay back and think England. Well, exactly.
I was getting jaded one way or the other, and
(20:29):
I wanted it to be, you know, a good and
turned out to be fine to her professionalism intact, more
than any other job though. I mean, because we're all human.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Beings and we have good days and bad days, and
days when we're in good moods and bad moods, and
that job it's got to be particularly difficult. You know,
you have your I don't know, in argument with your
husband or your teenager says something you hate when you
drop off at school or whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
And then you got to go in and be delicate,
or you can take it out on your kid. Everything
I do for that kid. No, No, I've been raising
that kid and I feed him and everything, and they
have no GODA. Plus you're dealing with the public for
your entire shift, and anybody who's dealt with public knows
(21:16):
that that alone will put your teeth on edge. But anyway,
I worked out all right. I'm just so glad it's over. Anyway.
So I've been wanting to get to this, and I
don't know why exactly, but I find the dynamics of
this so interesting, speaking of managing a one on one
relationship and that is the history of American presidents getting
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played by Vladimir Putin. And this is written by Tom Rogan.
I don't know Tom, I know Joe Rogan, I know
what's our Boddy from the Washington Post, Josh Josh Rogan, Right, well,
this is yet another Rogan.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
But you read the David Sanger version of Putin and
Bush and how they hung out together like friends back
in the day.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, yeah, it was rough to read in retrospect. Well,
this Rogan leads with Donald Trump says he wants peace
in Ukraine. The problem is that mister Trump sees Vladimir
Putin for you who he wishes Putin to be. See
if you agree with his friends. He wishes him to
be a hardened but practical negotiator rather than who he is,
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a former KGB lieutenant colonel who revels in the dark
art of ruthless manipulation. Mister Trump was shaped by the
Wheeler Dealer New York City real estate scene. Mister Putin
was shaped by the brutal maximalism of the KGB's Red
Banner Institute. But mister Trump is not the first US
president to take an unrealistic view of his Russian counterpart
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consider his predecessor's experiences, and I was reminded of the
patheticness of this going through this. The first American president
to deal with Putin was Bill Clinton, and he chose
to remain largely silent on human rights concerns in Russia,
including the incredible civilian casualties during the Second Chechen War.
Mister Clinton instead focused on wooing mister Putin to join
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the post Cold War democratic international order. Mister Putin did
nothing of the sort. He intimidated the Russian media, cultivating
an inner circle of oligarchs, and took the crush down
the road of totalitarianism all on. Mister Clinton stood idly by, hoping.
But I don't know what Clinton was supposed to do, honestly.
But next came George W. Bush, meeting Putin in June
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oh one. Bush said he quote look the man in
the eye and found him be very straightforward and trustworthy,
adding that he gained a sense of his soul as
a human being. I have soft feelings for George W. Bush.
That is one of the most ludicrous things I've ever heard,
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certainly in retrospect. That was wishful thinking of a Titanic scale. Yeah,
mister Bush had been duped by mister Putin's KGB mind games.
Mister Putin appealed to mister Bush, a born again Christian,
with a story about his mother's Orthodox cross being rescued
from a fire in her datcha. Mister Putin adopted a
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similar tactic with mister Trump's chief foreign affairs negotiator, Steve Whitcoff,
telling mister Whitcroft that he had prayed for mister Trump
when he learned of the assassination attempt against him in July.
Putin has never prayed for anything in his life. No,
the fact that.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Some people, including many of our listeners, believe Putin's some
sort of protector of Christianity, Good Lord.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
One more example, and then you know the main point,
which which Jack is certainly hinting at. Then there was
Barack Obama. Soon after taking office in on and I,
and Obama essentially excused Russia's invasion of Georgia five months
prior publicly seeking a reset in relations. At July, Obama
travel Moscow to meet with Putin. Obama advisor Michael mcfollo's McFall,
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who served as ambassador to Russia for a number of years,
recounts in his twenty eighteen book How Putin quickly asserted
dominance over the American President. Putin quote Putin spoke uninterrupted
for nearly the entire time schedule for the meeting documenting
the injustices of the Bush administration. This was a guy,
this is the Bush administration, that could see into his soul.
This was a guy with a chip on his shoulder.
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Obama listened patiently, maybe too patiently. It was my assignment
to read out this meeting to our press court later
that day. I couldn't tell them that Obama merely listened
the entire time. Then they go into the history of
the appeasement of Obama. I think, what maybe our presidents
under estimate, one after the other after the other, maybe
for reasons of their own egos, is that they're up
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against a master, a master manipulator. Not just a hard
ass negotiator and a cutthroat, but a guy whose gift
in not coming off as a cutthroat, in anticipating what
you want to hear and giving it to you.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Maybe the first time, the first president, that's fine, you
can get away with that, But since then, I don't
see how you get manipulated by the guy.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
It seems obvious what he is.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
He's a ruthless he will he would murder your child
if it benefited him.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
He's that yeah. Yeah, Or even if he thought there
was one and four chance it would benefit him, Yeah,
your child would be dead. Trump clearly is prone to
being swayed by flattery. I mean, that's just beyond denial
at this point. And it was. I've been watching special
report with Brett Paar, especially this week, in which he's
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talked to various leaders in the countries that Trump's visited
in the Middle East, in which he's done some really
really interesting diplomas that might be like crazy beneficial for
the next fifty years. There's some stuff that's bothered me,
but I think a lot of it is really really
impressive what Trump's been doing. But it's been unbelievable how
(27:14):
every figure Brett Baar interviews goes way over above and
beyond the call of duty in praising Trump, Like it's
almost like they've got a timer going off every fourth
sentence to make sure they throw in some lavish praise
for Trump. And soon.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, on that front, I'm concerned. Trump said earlier today,
he said it's time. It's time Putin and I meet.
We got to make that happen. And I'm really concerned
about how that meeting goes. That Trump might just lavish
praise on Putin to his face and bad They both
(27:52):
sit there in bad mouth Selensky.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
And I don't know what we do with that. That
would be tough to take. Yeah, in fact, I almost
predict that's what's going to happen. But Putin will, like
have a ten million dollar documentary of Joe Biden's deceit
and dementia produced and show it to Trump. He will
build a shrine to Malania's beauty. He'll cut off his
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own thumb. Maybe, if he needs to to convince Trump.
They're on the same page, and they're the kind of
guys who get it. Other people don't get it like
we do, but we sure do.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Maybe he can get some of those hair swinging dancers
that they had in Abu Dhabi yesterday. Trump seemed to
like those the girls that swung their hair. I gotta
get the hair swinging dancer video. I missed that somehow something. Yeah,
but we'll we'll have to see.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I don't get it either, how one president after another
after another makes the same set of mistakes. Well, even
doesn't realize they're dealing with an alligator. They're dealing with
a reptile.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
You don't need to meet with the CIA and have
them you read the profile that they've dug up and
put together for you.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
How about the fact that he.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Burned all those people in that apartment building so he
could blame the Chechens and start a war.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, I mean, that's who does that. Yeah, that's the
kind of guy you're dealing with.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
He would burn a whole bunch of families of the
Russians so he could blame it on the Chechens and
start a war because he wanted to.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Sure, Yeah, that's straight out of his philosophy and Hitler's
and others. No, dang, Michael, this is not a gratuitous
Hitler mentioned. This is a specific sighting of very different exactly.
But the great Man view of history is, if you
are not willing to sacrifice tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands,
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maybe millions of lives, you will not be one of
the great men of history. If you blanche at sacrificing
all those lives, you don't deserve the gig you're in
the wrong job. Chum. That's what Vladimir Putin would say.
Oh that going in. Man, if they meet, that is
gonna be some high steaks drama. I'll tell you that. Wow,
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we'll finish strong. Next, here's a headline. I think you
brought us Katie the other day. And I finally dug
into the story. The US engineers found rogue communication devices
and Chinese solar panels.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
Yeah, which I said, someone who has solar I'm a
little concerned.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, I've got to admit I thought, okay, heck, devices
in solar panels. I don't spend a lot of time
like spilling national secrets on my roof or anything. So
what's the significance of this? Because I'm a bit of
a dim wit. But so these Chinese made solar power
inverters and batteries had these undocumented communication channels that could allow,
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according to a source Reuter's talk to the rogue components
provide additional undocumented communication channels. They could allow firewalls to
be circumvented remotely, with potentially catastrophic consequences. The story illustrates
the security issue that's haunted analysts since the dawn of
the Internet of things, the sudden craze for adding Internet
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connectivity to all manner of devices, from household appliances to
industrial machinery. I was thinking about that the other day.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
So I have a fountain in my backyard that is
connected to an app where I can control the schedule
that it runs. But I was sitting there going, dude,
even my fountain runs through the Internet.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, yeah, that is the thing. I've resisted this. Very
early on in the Internet of Things era, I ran
into an article that explained how, you know, the Mark
Zuckerberg's of the world were exploiting the fact that they
are now in your thermostat, in your ring, doorbell or whatever. Yeah,
and I was so off put by that. I haven't
(31:56):
really dug into it. But so in the case of
these vicious Chinese power and vergers, the devices were designed
to connect solar panel rays and windmills to power grids,
and they have Internet capability, mostly allegedly, so their performance
can be monitored and their software can be updated easily.
But these these people set up firewalls, or these companies
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set up firewalls and their technology teams to prevent the
devices from sending on authorized signals, and they physically inspect
equipment from China to look for bugs, and they find
them with shocking regularity. This is so obviously an effort
by the Chinese to get into our power grids and
our systems and our circuits, both individual homes and in
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mass areas so they can like simultaneously send signals that
then f up the grids. That's what the nastiness is
going to look like. Everything shuts down. That's what we need.
On a Friday way, this is well, we are so
asleep anyway. Let's get a final thought from everybody on
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the crew to wrap things up for the day, beginning
with our technical director Michael Angelow. Michael final thought. This
means I can now hack into my neighbor's thermostat and
make it ninety degrees in their house just because I
don't like him or something. Oh good call then make
it fifty.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Jack has had to dash off to an appointment Katie
Green or esteemed to Newswoman.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
As a final thought, Katie, I have sneezed twenty three
times during the course of the show.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I just want to let you guys know. Yeah, wow,
allergies coast to coast are are terrible. Is it climate
change and if so, what the hell are you gonna
do about it? Anyway? Get some tissues? Have you taste?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Hey, you've stolen my dreams, You've made me sneeze a lot.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Anyway. My final thought is heavy, great weekend. I'll be
on the golf course if you need me. So many
people to thank, so little time. Armstrong and Getty wrapping
up another grueling four hour workday. We have many pleasures,
many pleasures awaiting you at Armstrong and Getty dot com,
including the swag store. Pick up an ang T shirt
for your favorite AMG fan. We're working on the new
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T shirt. California's bullet train more expensive and slower than
a bus. Yes, effected to sell it like hotcakes. We
will see you on Monday. Thanks so much for listening.
God bless America. Armstrong and Getty is an unpredictable beast.
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I was wondering you know what you felt about that
in particularly and listen, Let's go. And that's the type
of courage we need in America to stand up here.
One final message, the California bullet train more expensive and
slower than a bus. Great Friday, The Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty arm Strong, and
Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Honestly serious question, I should put this to the listeners.
I don't even know if I want to be this
kind of person or not. I'm not a boycott person.
I'm not a well I'm not a boycott person. But
I don't think I could have listened to that screed
from Springsteen and stayed for the rest of the concert.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It was just one step too.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Far for me.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
For me, i'd held my breath and waited it out
like a painful dental procedure, than when the second chapter began.
That's when I would have said, all right, f this,
pardon me, I'm out. The painful part is you can't
boo them, because you'll think you're just saying Bruce well right.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
As I mentioned earlier, The part that bothers me the
most is it's got that whole I'm cool and all
you people are cool that agree with me, and we're
the cool people, and people that don't agree with this
are uncool people. That is enough to drive me out
of the arena.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Not just uncool but stupid and down with fascism. Right,
oh good lord? And then you agree, of telecasters.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Your point earlier just from a I mean, you know,
just narrow Bruce Springsteen's audience thing, he used to be
the champion of the working class, and the working class
is clearly maga. I mean they're like sixty five percent
of his audience is probably maga.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Now, if you could take every character from every single
Bruce Springsteen's song and animate them, they would vote in
the eightieth percentile for Trump. Yeah that's correct. Yeah, what
what he's just He is a very wealthy, creeative artist,
a very old, very wealthy creative artist who's utterly out
(02:04):
of touch with the people he thinks he represents. You know,
the most annoying, pretentious thing is that ever happened? And
this was how many Christmases a go, now, maybe five?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
When him and Obama Thank you gladys, When him and
Obama did that DVD book set thanging Did you.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Ever see any of that?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And then the bookstores you could get this big, giant
coffee table book and it had Bruce and Obama's faces
on the cover, laughing, And then pictures of them together
having a conversation about America, and then there's a video
that goes with it and stories from Bruce. I mean,
it's just it was the most over the top, two
completely out of touch rich people.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It was vomit worthy.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh yeah, what would be the example, like the reverse.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
For the other crowd.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I mean it'd be like if Trump and I don't
even know what it would be Obama springs to sitting
around like bathed in their own self enjoyment is Ah,
it's just too much.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
He either missed that or blotted it out because it
was too terrible. I send you a Lincoln in white.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It's got a real and he lebo. It's so artistic,
you know, we're.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
A the whole thing. I hate everything about it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
If I ever walked into somebody house and they got
that on their coffee table, I'm not even gonna say
anything about why I'm leaving.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I'll just turn and walk out, like where'd he go?
I'm setting fire to it. You're gonna make a stubber,
all right. So Final hour of the Week, got a
lot of stuff to squeeze in. You gonna have to
choose carefully. There's fifteen pounds a show for a five
pound bag. But let's kick it off with the Friday tradition.
It's fun look back at the week that was. It's
(03:49):
cow clips of the week. You're saying, he's dead. Lights
are blinking, the sirens are turning. Whip the week.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
America, I love, that has been a beacon of hope
and liberty for two hundred and fifty years is currently
in the hands of a corrupt, incompetent and treesonistric administration.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
The drastic d escalation in the trade war between the
United States and China, so there is a chance to
rebalance together. This is not a political conference, this is
a business conference. I want to make a deal with Iran.
I want to do something of as possible.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
There's two steps. Is a very very nice step and
there's a violent step. I don't want to do the
second step.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
The equipment that we use, much of it, we can't
buy parts for now. We have to go on eBay
and buy parts.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Any of the representatives that were there, you lay a
finger on them, we are going to have a problem.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You can intimidate me, come back, give me a break.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I was one of a green uniform barbitu rel agent
for five years before she was even born.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
The bottom line is the was lying. I think some
of the criticism is fair. To be honest of me again,
it makes me mental. It was clear with me. Now.
Two of the heroic reporters were covering this intensely during
the Biden years. We're coming up close to the one
(05:19):
trillion dollar amount is lost every year a fraud. You
saw it coming?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh yeah, I mean it was like they threw money
in the air and just let people run around and
grab it.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Sow.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I'm Dinny Combs.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
The so called freak offs happened weekly, many of the
sessions photographed and filmed. She even testified about him, you know,
threatening to blow up Wrapper Kid Cutty's part.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I think he convicted. Trump's gonna impart me President. Could
I asked you a question.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
What I'm in London and I just paid for this
damn fat drug I take?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I said, it's not working.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Lit more expensive than slower than a bus.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Hanson has been working on AI songs about California's idiotic
just spectacularly evil theft bullet train more expensive and slower
than bus. That was the jingle. I wrote, Oh, that's fantastic,
fleshed out via AI. That has to be that has
(06:33):
to catch on. The bullet train more expensive and slower
than a bus. They play fifteen for us right, bullet.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Train borens expay a body down the drain, said, but
it will make news.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I'm not like less of a man. The bullet train.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
More expense, so man slower than a bus?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Hop on d it? What was I saying before you laugh?
I laughed. If it's hilarious, let's run that five million times? Please?
I love I hear it again right now.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
I love that Hanson has become like the show's AI voice,
like we can't hear him, but he just sends us
all of these nuggets.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Especially when Newsom finally announces and he's trying to make
his way through the Democratic primary.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Every time we mention him, it's got to be that hook.
The bullet train.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
More expensive and slower than of us.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Bullet train.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Born tax, pay a bonnet down the train you won't
see or.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Said, but he will make news look.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Like let's super Man.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
The bullet train.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
More expensive, that slow than a bus.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
That is just gold.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Oh, I want to be the person who plays a
tambourine on that song. All I do is I just
hit it on my hip and shake it.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah. Hey, it's good work if you can get it. Hey,
let's uh is this is thirteen the Metal one Michael
play that it's a.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Scammaboon dogle, a waste of our time from Mercy Bakersfield.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Who would say, right.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Than a play more expensive than a bus? It's a
song cost this fuss.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I think it's interesting cost getting into economic principles in the.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Middle of the ah. You don't hear that so much metal.
I like the fact that AI, which is all knowing,
pronounces Merced merst even though there is no word mersed
the only way you would ever write me e r
c ed in English languages. You know the town of Merced,
But AI, with all its genius, doesn't know that.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You haven't walked into the mall and found yourself. You
look around and I was mersed. No, no, I haven't
you know.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I like to medal, but I like the airy, dopey,
poppy feel of the Heart Family issue. Yeah, it's just
so relentlessly pleasant in describing the utterly indefensible theft of
billions and billions of hundreds of billions of dollars bullied
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hop on, bore a body down the drink. I feel
like I'm but it will make news.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
I'm not like less of a man, more expensive than
slow than a bus.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Bullboard, folks, the California Bullet Train coming to you in
the year twenty seventy six.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Well, that's the other part that was great is that
they said most of it will be done in two decades.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
If I didn't even say all of it two decades
from now, MERCE said to Gilroy, Palmdale, Gilroy to Palmdale,
Oh all right right, all right, Palmdale. Yes, check out
a map, folks, if you're not familiar with the sprawling
geography of cal Unicornia.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Because Hanson loves when I suggest things that give him
more work.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Could we get a shirt? Could we get a shirt?
The bullet train more expensive and slower than a bus.
I will wear that shirt. I will wear it all.
I will wear it all the time. It's got to
have the California the cal Unicornia state flag on it too. Yeah,
walking billboard right here?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, well I love that, fitting in with the Bruce
Springsteen working man thing.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I listened to a podcast yesterday with Senator Phil Graham.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Anybody remember him? Senator from Texas Republican PhD in economics.
I didn't remember that he ran for president a couple
of times. Didn't get a whiff. You know why, because
he was like a serious guy about small government and
fiscal sanity. We want a game show host, yay. But
he's got a new book out about the myths of
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he'd written a book called The Myth of American Inequality
a couple of years ago, and he's got a new
one out called The Triumph of Economic Freedom that point
out some interesting things about kind of the whole Bruce
Springsteen thing. Really that is I thought, really interesting. Maybe
I'll pass that along among other things on the way,
stay here.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
This guy's I read that the Denver Airport was recently
hit with an outage and some pilots couldn't contact air
traffic control for six minutes. Meanwhile Newer Airport was like
six minutes, please cost when he hit six days that.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Way six minutes?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, air traffic controller in the Wall Street Journal today
talking about how close call that he had a week
or so ago at Newark and now he's really worried
there's going to be a crash soon because of these
various outages and he just barely caught one and was
able to straighten it out two planes that were headed.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Toward each other.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
He can't do this endlessly where you have you know,
two minutes here, two minutes there, drop out at busy airports.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
No, No, there are problems top to bottom with the system.
I believe that firmly, so I mentioned this.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I was listened to a podcast interview with former Senator
Phil Graham, who I did not have on my radar
in my life. I wish I had because I actually
saw our friend Tim Sanderfer, who he had on earlier
in the show.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
If you missed that, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty
on the Men.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Tim Sanderfer changed his registration in California to Republicans so
he could vote for Phil Graham when Phil Graham briefly
ran for president back in the day, although he never
got to because Phil Graham dropped out because he's one
of those people, like a lot of politicians, it's like
actually serious about governance and spending and dealing with things,
(13:06):
and those people never.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Get the nomination. Yeah, he's not a pandering whore. Yes,
And he's got a book out right now and he's
in his eighties. Now he's a very old guy. He
was a senator from Texas.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
The myth of American inequality came out a couple of
years ago, and he's got a new one, the triumph
of Economic Freedom, which sounds like very similar, like restructuring,
hoping it gets attention again.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
But one of the things he pointed out, and I've
never heard this before, that.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
For all kinds of different like artistic, cultural reasons and
some economic reasons, the industrial Revolution gets a bad rap
and always has and it continues till this to this
day of this idea that there was before the the
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Industrial Revolution, there was some sort of man, it was
great to be a farmer out in the fields, living
the good life, free of you know, being bothered and
and everything like that in exploitation. And then the Industrial
Revolution came along and forced everybody into this exploitive world
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and all this poverty, and.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
That is the narrative.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yep. He points out that a lot of that has
to do with Charles Dickens and a number of other
people who wrote that story, and it just kind of
caught on and has lived forever, ignoring the fact that
the reason people flowed into the factories and everything like
that is because the life they were living was incredibly
exploitive and brutal on the farms, almost always farming mostly
(14:40):
for someone else, and them getting all your work and
you barely getting by, and you living with like fifteen
people in one house and half the kids died, and
all these other statistics that got so much better after
the Industrial Revolution, right, and that prior to the Industrial Revolution,
I thought this was really interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
The idea of what do we do about the poor
people started with the Industrial Revolution.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It was the first time anybody had ever even considered
the fact that maybe we could do away with people
who are just so incredibly poor and have such miserable lives.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Prior to that, it was just assumed.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
That most of us did and would and always will
and because there was like a chance that maybe you
could get out of that. Ever since then, there's been
this weird belief that it's horrible that there are poor
people that are being exploited and have rough lives and
we need to have a war against that and eliminate it.
It's only because things got so good that you could
(15:41):
even have that conversation, So we've kind.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Of have it completely backwards. Our view of that whole thing. Right,
what's really interesting to me is the sort of person
who becomes a scribbler hasn't changed a ton, I don't
think in one hundred and fifty years. In that you
have something built that's amazing and complex and incredibly productive,
(16:06):
and it has some fairly serious flaws, and people point
out those flaws, and to a very very large extent,
they get fixed. But the view of history, because it's
written by the very sort of person who is in
the mainstream media today, lionizes the fixers of the problems
who deserve credit, but it makes into monsters the designers
(16:31):
of the giant system that was incredibly successful but just
needed some tweaks. Life got so much better. If it
was inevitable, all the good stuff would happen.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Right, Life got so much better for the average human
being ever since the Industrial Revolution.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
But it's portrayed as a horror mostly yes, because of
its pretty notable imperfections.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
But yeah, but the imperfections and the imperfections they were
dealing with before. Right, children are dying, they were being exploited,
they were short life spans, et cetera, et cetera. Before
the Industrial Revolution, are strong and getty, how are you
feeling about Friday?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Huh? Excited? Gonna party? I'm gonna party. I don't believe
you're gonna party. Probably not party.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Probably take care of my kids, figure out some meals,
do some laundry, get to bed on time.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I usually get to bed early on a Friday. See yes,
every night of the week. For some reason, at this
point in my life, I cannot say the same. So
I started my day with a early morning jabbing. Had
to have the standard of blood work done before my
visit with my doctor, and got an appointment in all
what you need to do these days, and my wife,
who's like a week off on the cycle of going
(17:44):
to see the doctor, had her blood work done at
the same place, and she said, oh, I hope you
get You know what's her name. She's the little gal.
She's so bubbly and so cheery and so wonderful. So
I got there today and there she is. Not only
is she cute and bubbly and cherry Jesus, and she
she let us know we are discussing the nice weather,
et cetera, blah blah blah, And I thought, okay, great,
(18:06):
Yeah that's the gal. Git. He was talking about and
then out comes from the bowels of the building, a
darker present, this big. There's no reason to go into
description A large A woman of large.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
You know what's interesting years. I have no idea where
the dis direction is this story is going. I don't
know if we were about to get off on how
Christian she was or now. I don't know we're going
to got to hang out.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
For the ride. That's that's the brilliant that's the brilliance
of my artistry. I'm hanging on. I'm hanging on. I
don't know what it's about. The old gal radiating hatred
for humanity from every pore. She was glowing with hatred
of humankind, just visible on our face. And they're book
(18:55):
for bottomists.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Yes, uh, Joe, we we refer to those large margin
charge So yes, well, large Marge was in charge and something.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Oh give me the sweet little girl. I'll give me
the sweet little girl. But no, no, I got the
mountain of malevolence. You don't request, I request.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Well, remember I used to have my guy Pong, my
non Pong, and I liked Pong, and I would I would,
I would show up and say I want Pong, So
I'll wait however long it takes until Pong comes up.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, the place I go, you know, I only go
like once every six months was a year. And they're
not consistent. They're a bunch of different gals, and I
think one dude wants who worked there. But and if
I have the one that doesn't look like they've been
in prison, you could say that, can I can I
get the one who is gonna jab me with the
needle whether I need it or not? Can I not
(19:47):
have her? Yeah? She actually is pretty good. It was fine,
but you know, I found myself like trying to manage
the relationship with being really pleasant and upbeat without being gush,
you know, because if you're in a foul mood, and
she was clearly in a foul mood. If you're in
a foul mood, the super chip or person who's trying
(20:08):
to bring you out of it, that's not helping. So
I said, all right, you just got to play your
cards right. That my job. It's like, you know, you're
being robbed and you're just trying to look you can
have my wallet and all. It's just this. I'll end
it here. Look at the lay back and think England. Well, exactly.
I was getting jaded one way or the other, and
(20:29):
I wanted it to be, you know, a good and
turned out to be fine to her professionalism intact, more
than any other job though. I mean, because we're all human.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Beings and we have good days and bad days, and
days when we're in good moods and bad moods, and
that job it's got to be particularly difficult. You know,
you have your I don't know, in argument with your
husband or your teenager says something you hate when you
drop off at school or whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
And then you got to go in and be delicate,
or you can take it out on your kid. Everything
I do for that kid. No, No, I've been raising
that kid and I feed him and everything, and they
have no GODA. Plus you're dealing with the public for
your entire shift, and anybody who's dealt with public knows
(21:16):
that that alone will put your teeth on edge. But anyway,
I worked out all right. I'm just so glad it's over. Anyway.
So I've been wanting to get to this, and I
don't know why exactly, but I find the dynamics of
this so interesting, speaking of managing a one on one
relationship and that is the history of American presidents getting
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played by Vladimir Putin. And this is written by Tom Rogan.
I don't know Tom, I know Joe Rogan, I know
what's our Boddy from the Washington Post, Josh Josh Rogan, Right, well,
this is yet another Rogan.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
But you read the David Sanger version of Putin and
Bush and how they hung out together like friends back
in the day.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, yeah, it was rough to read in retrospect. Well,
this Rogan leads with Donald Trump says he wants peace
in Ukraine. The problem is that mister Trump sees Vladimir
Putin for you who he wishes Putin to be. See
if you agree with his friends. He wishes him to
be a hardened but practical negotiator rather than who he is,
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a former KGB lieutenant colonel who revels in the dark
art of ruthless manipulation. Mister Trump was shaped by the
Wheeler Dealer New York City real estate scene. Mister Putin
was shaped by the brutal maximalism of the KGB's Red
Banner Institute. But mister Trump is not the first US
president to take an unrealistic view of his Russian counterpart
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consider his predecessor's experiences, and I was reminded of the
patheticness of this going through this. The first American president
to deal with Putin was Bill Clinton, and he chose
to remain largely silent on human rights concerns in Russia,
including the incredible civilian casualties during the Second Chechen War.
Mister Clinton instead focused on wooing mister Putin to join
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the post Cold War democratic international order. Mister Putin did
nothing of the sort. He intimidated the Russian media, cultivating
an inner circle of oligarchs, and took the crush down
the road of totalitarianism all on. Mister Clinton stood idly by, hoping.
But I don't know what Clinton was supposed to do, honestly.
But next came George W. Bush, meeting Putin in June
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oh one. Bush said he quote look the man in
the eye and found him be very straightforward and trustworthy,
adding that he gained a sense of his soul as
a human being. I have soft feelings for George W. Bush.
That is one of the most ludicrous things I've ever heard,
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certainly in retrospect. That was wishful thinking of a Titanic scale. Yeah,
mister Bush had been duped by mister Putin's KGB mind games.
Mister Putin appealed to mister Bush, a born again Christian,
with a story about his mother's Orthodox cross being rescued
from a fire in her datcha. Mister Putin adopted a
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similar tactic with mister Trump's chief foreign affairs negotiator, Steve Whitcoff,
telling mister Whitcroft that he had prayed for mister Trump
when he learned of the assassination attempt against him in July.
Putin has never prayed for anything in his life. No,
the fact that.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Some people, including many of our listeners, believe Putin's some
sort of protector of Christianity, Good Lord.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
One more example, and then you know the main point,
which which Jack is certainly hinting at. Then there was
Barack Obama. Soon after taking office in on and I,
and Obama essentially excused Russia's invasion of Georgia five months
prior publicly seeking a reset in relations. At July, Obama
travel Moscow to meet with Putin. Obama advisor Michael mcfollo's McFall,
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who served as ambassador to Russia for a number of years,
recounts in his twenty eighteen book How Putin quickly asserted
dominance over the American President. Putin quote Putin spoke uninterrupted
for nearly the entire time schedule for the meeting documenting
the injustices of the Bush administration. This was a guy,
this is the Bush administration, that could see into his soul.
This was a guy with a chip on his shoulder.
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Obama listened patiently, maybe too patiently. It was my assignment
to read out this meeting to our press court later
that day. I couldn't tell them that Obama merely listened
the entire time. Then they go into the history of
the appeasement of Obama. I think, what maybe our presidents
under estimate, one after the other after the other, maybe
for reasons of their own egos, is that they're up
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against a master, a master manipulator. Not just a hard
ass negotiator and a cutthroat, but a guy whose gift
in not coming off as a cutthroat, in anticipating what
you want to hear and giving it to you.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Maybe the first time, the first president, that's fine, you
can get away with that, But since then, I don't
see how you get manipulated by the guy.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
It seems obvious what he is.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
He's a ruthless he will he would murder your child
if it benefited him.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
He's that yeah. Yeah, Or even if he thought there
was one and four chance it would benefit him, Yeah,
your child would be dead. Trump clearly is prone to
being swayed by flattery. I mean, that's just beyond denial
at this point. And it was. I've been watching special
report with Brett Paar, especially this week, in which he's
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talked to various leaders in the countries that Trump's visited
in the Middle East, in which he's done some really
really interesting diplomas that might be like crazy beneficial for
the next fifty years. There's some stuff that's bothered me,
but I think a lot of it is really really
impressive what Trump's been doing. But it's been unbelievable how
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every figure Brett Baar interviews goes way over above and
beyond the call of duty in praising Trump, Like it's
almost like they've got a timer going off every fourth
sentence to make sure they throw in some lavish praise
for Trump. And soon.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, on that front, I'm concerned. Trump said earlier today,
he said it's time. It's time Putin and I meet.
We got to make that happen. And I'm really concerned
about how that meeting goes. That Trump might just lavish
praise on Putin to his face and bad They both
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sit there in bad mouth Selensky.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
And I don't know what we do with that. That
would be tough to take. Yeah, in fact, I almost
predict that's what's going to happen. But Putin will, like
have a ten million dollar documentary of Joe Biden's deceit
and dementia produced and show it to Trump. He will
build a shrine to Malania's beauty. He'll cut off his
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own thumb. Maybe, if he needs to to convince Trump.
They're on the same page, and they're the kind of
guys who get it. Other people don't get it like
we do, but we sure do.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Maybe he can get some of those hair swinging dancers
that they had in Abu Dhabi yesterday. Trump seemed to
like those the girls that swung their hair. I gotta
get the hair swinging dancer video. I missed that somehow something. Yeah,
but we'll we'll have to see.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I don't get it either, how one president after another
after another makes the same set of mistakes. Well, even
doesn't realize they're dealing with an alligator. They're dealing with
a reptile.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
You don't need to meet with the CIA and have
them you read the profile that they've dug up and
put together for you.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
How about the fact that he.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Burned all those people in that apartment building so he
could blame the Chechens and start a war.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, I mean, that's who does that. Yeah, that's the
kind of guy you're dealing with.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
He would burn a whole bunch of families of the
Russians so he could blame it on the Chechens and
start a war because he wanted to.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Sure, Yeah, that's straight out of his philosophy and Hitler's
and others. No, dang, Michael, this is not a gratuitous
Hitler mentioned. This is a specific sighting of very different exactly.
But the great Man view of history is, if you
are not willing to sacrifice tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands,
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maybe millions of lives, you will not be one of
the great men of history. If you blanche at sacrificing
all those lives, you don't deserve the gig you're in
the wrong job. Chum. That's what Vladimir Putin would say.
Oh that going in. Man, if they meet, that is
gonna be some high steaks drama. I'll tell you that. Wow,
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we'll finish strong. Next, here's a headline. I think you
brought us Katie the other day. And I finally dug
into the story. The US engineers found rogue communication devices
and Chinese solar panels.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
Yeah, which I said, someone who has solar I'm a
little concerned.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, I've got to admit I thought, okay, heck, devices
in solar panels. I don't spend a lot of time
like spilling national secrets on my roof or anything. So
what's the significance of this? Because I'm a bit of
a dim wit. But so these Chinese made solar power
inverters and batteries had these undocumented communication channels that could allow,
(30:54):
according to a source Reuter's talk to the rogue components
provide additional undocumented communication channels. They could allow firewalls to
be circumvented remotely, with potentially catastrophic consequences. The story illustrates
the security issue that's haunted analysts since the dawn of
the Internet of things, the sudden craze for adding Internet
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connectivity to all manner of devices, from household appliances to
industrial machinery. I was thinking about that the other day.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
So I have a fountain in my backyard that is
connected to an app where I can control the schedule
that it runs. But I was sitting there going, dude,
even my fountain runs through the Internet.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, yeah, that is the thing. I've resisted this. Very
early on in the Internet of Things era, I ran
into an article that explained how, you know, the Mark
Zuckerberg's of the world were exploiting the fact that they
are now in your thermostat, in your ring, doorbell or whatever. Yeah,
and I was so off put by that. I haven't
(31:56):
really dug into it. But so in the case of
these vicious Chinese power and vergers, the devices were designed
to connect solar panel rays and windmills to power grids,
and they have Internet capability, mostly allegedly, so their performance
can be monitored and their software can be updated easily.
But these these people set up firewalls, or these companies
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set up firewalls and their technology teams to prevent the
devices from sending on authorized signals, and they physically inspect
equipment from China to look for bugs, and they find
them with shocking regularity. This is so obviously an effort
by the Chinese to get into our power grids and
our systems and our circuits, both individual homes and in
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mass areas so they can like simultaneously send signals that
then f up the grids. That's what the nastiness is
going to look like. Everything shuts down. That's what we need.
On a Friday way, this is well, we are so
asleep anyway. Let's get a final thought from everybody on
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the crew to wrap things up for the day, beginning
with our technical director Michael Angelow. Michael final thought. This
means I can now hack into my neighbor's thermostat and
make it ninety degrees in their house just because I
don't like him or something. Oh good call then make
it fifty.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Jack has had to dash off to an appointment Katie
Green or esteemed to Newswoman.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
As a final thought, Katie, I have sneezed twenty three
times during the course of the show.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I just want to let you guys know. Yeah, wow,
allergies coast to coast are are terrible. Is it climate
change and if so, what the hell are you gonna
do about it? Anyway? Get some tissues? Have you taste?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Hey, you've stolen my dreams, You've made me sneeze a lot.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Anyway. My final thought is heavy, great weekend. I'll be
on the golf course if you need me. So many
people to thank, so little time. Armstrong and Getty wrapping
up another grueling four hour workday. We have many pleasures,
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