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May 20, 2025 13 mins

On the Tuesday May 20, 2025 edition of The Armstrong & Getty One More Thing Podcast...

  • Katie Green talks about the first steps taken in her fertility journey...

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Chat GPT, I need support. It's one more thing.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Katie's taking the lead on the podcast today. She's
got a tail to tail. Before we get to that, though,
I did want to mention whoever's parking in my parking spot,
I'm going to slash your tires. I'm announcing it ahead
of time.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Wow, we don't have reserved parking.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Spots bends and I you look at it, that's my
parking kind of.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
A common law parking spot exactly.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Somebody who gets here earlier than me because I get
it very early by normal work standards, and then taking
my spot and I'm going to slash your tires. Would
that be a misdemeanor assume? Oh yeah, my god.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah, you can empty the shelf of cvs after CVS
and it's not a felony in California.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'll buy them new tires, but I'm hoping the inconvenience
of it will make them stop parking in my spot. Now,
somebody here suggested I make a sign. Well, I won't
just make a sign and just say reserved, like I
doubt anybody would ever stop me.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Oh yeah, just get a little stencil and spray painted
on the curb. Reserved parking perfect with like a red
outline or something.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, sod, okay, back to you, kittie.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
All right, Well I mentioned it.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
I don't know a couple months ago that I was
going to be going through the in vitro IVF process
because Drew and I want to have a child.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
And why do people do that? I don't know that
much about it.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Uh, some of it has to do with infertility.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
You just can't have a kid naturally.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
For for my situation, it's because I have a hereditary
disease that makes conceiving difficult and then also it's a
fifty to fifty chance that the kid gets it. So
we're going through a different processing. Yeah, we're actually doing
the genetic testing, which is going to be incredible, where
they're going to take my eggs and figure out which
one of or which one which ones do not have

(01:55):
the polycystic kidney disease.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
And then those are the ones we're going to use.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
The fact that that is possible is mind blowing.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
It really is. And does insurance pay for this or no? No?
Is it expensive?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yes it is, yes it is.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
But so this this week or this week and next
week is the start of it. And my first day
of the dreaded medication was yesterday, which for anybody who's
familiar with it knows that it's all done with a syringe.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Like like, hm, you can ask, It's fine, ask whatever.
Are you sticking a needle in your arm?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Are you in my stomach?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
So you're giving yourself shots in the stomach, So you're
not like literally in the stomach in the abdomen, right.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
And well, yeah, the abb like right next to my
belly button.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
What's the difference.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Well, because if it was in your stomach, that would
be penetrating your skin, your muscles.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
And people say stomach.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I'm I'm just.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Trying to be accurate here, So don't you.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Quibble with my quibbling. I don't like the tummy shots.
I had to get those every day when I have
my gallbladder taken out. Oh so you know what you're
talking about, stomach? Oh good?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Did you give it to yourself or did you have to?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I can't imagine doing it myself.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
So you're on the same page that I am sent.
I just sent you, guys a series of photos I
received in the mail. Don't a week and a half
ago a box that was the size of I don't know,
like a a microwave. It was about that big, just
filled to the brim with syringes and needles and vials,

(03:43):
and I had a full blown panic attack because I
don't do well despite all of the tattoos and piercings
with needles.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Well yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Actually it looked like you were running some sort of
small town clinic and you were getting your supplies for
the moment.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I think you got to be a pretty weird person
if you're just perfectly sanguine about giving yourself shots in
the stomach.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
This was keeping me up at night, and I was
emotional and scared, wondering if I was even gonna.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Go through with this.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's too bad. I can believe that
though I would. I can imagine, yeah, this is important,
I have to do it, but I don't know if
I can yesh.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
I was trying to watch videos on YouTube of people
giving injections just because the sight of a needle going
into skin gives me an issue to I hope there is.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Anybody who's continuing to listen to this.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Is there anything, Yes, Michael.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
I have to for insulin. I gotta get injections into
the stomach area. Sometimes do you give me to yourself? No,
my wife does. And so that's what I was gonna
ask Katie. Is her husband to be doing this?

Speaker 4 (04:47):
No, he's working at the time frame that I have
to do this during the day.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
So if your wife's mad at you, does she ever really? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Sometimes?

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Oh wow? So can you do anything like the old timing?
Like if you've got a tooth that needs to come
out and you tie a string around it and put
it to the doorknob, somebody opens the door out comes
your tooth. Can you do anything like that with a
shot in the stomach.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
No, I mean there are tips that you can use.
But I actually booby trap yeah right, but my other
hand over a flame. I'm trying to dart gun. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
But so I went to chat GPT because we've been
talking about it so much, and I just typed in,
I need support. I'm doing and this is what I'm
doing and I am to the point of terrified where
I might not do it. This thing gave me eight
pages of ways that people get through their fears of injections,

(05:47):
Things that I can do prior to the shot, things
to do during the shot, I mean everything. So I
went through and I read it all and I utilized
some of it, and I gave myself the shot yesterday,
no problem.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Wow, mind is chat GPT And.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Once you get past, you know, the first fear and
the realities, Yeah, you're probably good now.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
And I called I called my parents crying. I was like,
I just did it, and that that was the hurdle.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I mean, that was the.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Thought of taking a vial in the needle and having
to do it myself was just out of the question.
And I chat GPT, honest to God, gave me this
this boost, Like, Okay, here are some things you can do.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Try it.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Is there any chance you'll be raising the child, not
with your husband, but with a robot, an AI robot?

Speaker 1 (06:34):
You know, if it if it keeps it up, it's
in the running.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
You are, So someday gonna say to your four year
old boy, I gave myself shots in the stomach the
least you could know.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Just pick up your Oh, without a doubt, that's already
locked and loaded and you're not even on the planet.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yet, right, Oh God, that is that is interesting in
a whole bunch of different levels.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, yeah, I had no idea that there were rugs
or anything. I mean, we've I had.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
No idea I did it at home, that it was
a home thing.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
The practical aspects of of of you know, sperm mats,
egg egg is implanted. I think we remember that.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
From biology when a very much okay, but yeah wow.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
So how comfortable are you with discussing what sort of
of drugs these are? Give the stiff arm whenever you want?
But so what what is it? What are you jabbing
yourself with?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
So there there are two basically what hair we're gonna
get real close, guys. What what we're doing is we
are making the eggs inside of me bigger so that
my doctor can take them out.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Is what this process is. So I had an altertude.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
At home yourself? Right?

Speaker 1 (07:41):
No?

Speaker 3 (07:41):
No?

Speaker 4 (07:41):
No, well actually yeah, the shots are doing it. So
oh the egg removal. No, I'm going into They're gonna
knock me out for that, Thank god.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Get the tongs you use for spaghetti, oh for boy?

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, shot back? Is that what you're saying? Oh? Okay? Anyway, So.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
There there are two different medications that are are making
the eggs bigger, and then there is another medication that
is going to stop me from ovulating so she can
take the eggs and my body doesn't go, we don't
need these anymore.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
So I had a my zoom meeting yesterday was about
forty five minutes long, with the doctor teaching me how
to take five different vials of medication with needles and
put them into different things so I could get one shot.
And I told at the very end, I went, you know,
I feel like a scientist.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, heck ya, you would do this. You are, eh.
That is what I didn't know that so much of
this stuff happened at home and you did it on
your own. I would have just assumed you're constantly going
into doctor's offices and they're doing it all.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
But right, so I had I had an ultrasound yesterday.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
I have one Friday, another one Monday, another one Thursday,
and then the procedure next weekend.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Did you do any uh? Do you have control over
the timing like of when you want to have a
baby born? I do, and I do shows now.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Well no, so this is just to get the eggs.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
So she's going to take the eggs out there, going
to fertilize them Withdrew and then they'll be on hold
for whenever I want to get pregnant.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Wow, so you can pick the day.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah, completely, They freeze them and she goes and don't worry,
they don't get freezer burn.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I was like, oh, well, thank you, so good.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
That's reassured.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Very good to know.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
But so, but they have to extract the.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Egg and then do the analysis right right of the
genetic stuff we were talking about earlier, and then do
the old I'd like you to meet to certain cell
I think you too will hit it off. Yeah, do
what comes natural. But then you implant it whenever you want,
and roughly forty weeks later.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Right, Yeah, So there's a two week waiting period after
they take the eggs that they're going to go through
and go through all the little guys and then pick
the good ones and then we'll take it from there.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
But science is incredible.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
I I keep saying that over and over again because
I'm just my mind is blown that any of this
could be done.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, yeah, crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
And chat GPT helped me do it right.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
And this is this the thing that for a cup
of coffee people were clai I mean Trump didn't want
to allow or something like that, which was not true.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Ridiculous yes, And we were planning this the whole time
with no fear of that because we knew that was
all while I'm on the pola.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Jd Vance and his wife did it this way.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, a lot of people do it this way.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
And I was shocked at the amount of people who
were just as scared as I was.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Too, you know there.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
I mean, there are support groups on Facebook and Instagram
and all these Reddit pages and whatnot, and they're all
women that are they can't have a baby.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
They're praying for this to work.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
But oh my god, I have to give myself a
shot in the stomach every day for two weeks.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I'm I'm I've got a needle phobia like you do.
But there are various levels of that. But like I said,
I don't think anybody's thrilled about the idea.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
Hey Katie, what were some of the tips that they
gave you? If you don't mind me asking.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Well, so when you're in this situation, like you're doing
it yourself at home. My whole thing was I thought
I had to be like standing up and all these
and they gave me all this information. You can be
laying down, So go go into your bedroom and lay
down on your bed and put something on the TV
and watch that and distract yourself.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
That's how a baby making thing usually starts.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Exactly right, get in the mood. No, but so you
just it was just like little things like that. Not
the ice pack, but there was another kind of like
a jack thing pinched the back of your arm on
the opposite side.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
You can do that.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
That's all my son does. He when he was littler,
he would bite down on his wrist when they did
stuff to him.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
And I mean, but there were all these things like
reclaim your power over this fear, change the story and
your mind about needles. Look at it as a tool
of care and healing and a goal, a goal for
your future.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Just all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
You know, peekaboo technique. It's the perfect way. You don't
have to look at the needle at all. You can
cover it with a cloth until the very last second. Aha,
which I didn't do.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
But could you like this stuff matters? Could you wed?
Could you wedget in a couch cushion and then just
run and dive on top of it.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I wish that that was possible. It would have been
more fun.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
But wow, I don't know that I could, like, mentally,
I think I could get there, but I don't know
if I could keep myself from like flinching and pulling away.
I mean, I just I don't know if I could
do that. I suppose you got to figure it out.
That's why you went to chat GPT I did until
you did.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, And they also the other helpful thing, not that
you're gonna have to do this, but they said, once
you start, like, once you get it in your mind, Okay,
I'm gonna do this, do not abort mission.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Just go for it because you have from.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
That thought, you've got about twelve seconds that you have
to worry about right until the SHOT's over with.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
So just get it over with.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, Yeah, that's another good technique. And then all right,
and after this we'll go back to my neur own
business and you can disclose what you want to disclose
when you disclose it. But at some point a few
months down the line, little Joseph Jack Green will be
I'm the scene and new member of the family.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Joseph Jack Michael Squared Green.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Well, I guess that's it.
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