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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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the Sherry.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Peppini that's out there, it's not me.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
She's not real.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
It's just this version of me that has been created
to fit the narrative for the media's version of what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Oh dang, Sherry Peppini is a victim of the media.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I was afraid of the media.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I don't know if you remember the Sherry Peppini story.
We're gonna gonna lay that out for you again. We
talked about it a lot when had happened here in
the Armstrong and Getty Show. For one reason, because when
she was found it was like a mile from my
house on County Road seventeen north of Woodland, California near
I five.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I mean it was really close to me.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So it was like, what, this abducted woman got dropped
off by my house, held by castickers for.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Four days or however long it was, including two Hispanic women.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
So let's hear a little more. There's I guess there's
a documentary coming out. I'm guessing the documentary does not
treat her well. This is the documentarian and Sherry Peppini.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
The ID series Sherry Peppini caught in the line the
so called supermom sharing another version of that for mis
twenty sixteen kidnapping hoax that captivated the country.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
The story that the world thinks they know is that
I am a master manipulator who's fooled everyone.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That's my magic one.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Sorry, I'm gonna do ridiculous things because some of this
is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Okay, we're listening to a crazy person, Yeah, gesticulating for
the camera and like being over dramatic, then admitting she
was faking it.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah. No, we don't think you're a master manipulator. We
think you're a pinhead who thought she could get away
with something dumb, like.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Within moments of you showing up in the ditch near
my house. The story came out with the details and everybody,
but that don't sound right.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, the cops were like, wait a minute, so called
super mom, she's married with two kids. Uh, let's roll on.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
In April of twenty two, Puppinie pleading guilty to lying
to federal investigators about her disappearance. She's done a plea deal,
saying she knowingly planned and participated in her own hoax kidnapping.
Now Peppini changing her story yet again, claiming she really
was abducted and assaulted by James Rayes.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
There was no master plan, there was no hoax kidnapping.
There was a cover up of what happened, and I
participated in.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
The cover up.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Rayes had previously told investigators the Peppini caused her own
injuries and that, at her request, he branded her with
a wood burning tool. Investigators say he passed a polygraph
test and was duped by Peppini.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, if you don't know this story and the details
are being filled in, and I'll get to a little, uh,
some of the background here in a segment. Yeah, she
she her hair was cut, she'd been branded. Was she
did herself or she's claiming this guy did or whatever
at her request. I mean, that's some that's some commitment
to your hoax branding yourself. Mum, you gotta admire that, huh?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Do I do? I? She didn't just go halfway on
her made up story. She went all the way and
then a pretty decent question, why would we believe you?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Now?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I was gonna just for the plot that that's her
ex boyfriend who she went to spend a couple of
days with because she was tired of being wife and
mom supermom right, and he let her in because it
was his hot ex girlfriend. He was thinking, you know,
I don't know, maybe she's back or not, you know,
but yeah, but now she's saying, no, maybe she's back.
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She's kind of crazy, but yeah, I'm a little lonely.
So uh, what the hell? It was pretty good when
it last, did uh? And now two years however, many
years later, she's saying no, no, no, no, Wait a minute,
wait a minute, Now here's the real truth. He a
dead man. Damn. Wow. Wow, let's hear her explain herself.
You're a convicted liar, So tell me why we should
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believe you.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Now?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Haven't you ever lied? Have you ever lied in your
history of existence.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
And then has that lie been blown up and broadcasted.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Around the world. It's so much more complex.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Than just pointing the finger and saying you're a liar.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
And I wish, I wish more than anything, I could
have been more truthful.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Oh my god, it was worth it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
It was worth it bringing it up, bringing this up,
to play that clip. I gotta play that for my
kids at home. Whenever you get I cut up with
a chick who sounds like this, that's your takeaway.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It's a good takeaway. Oh my god, Wow, wow, a
hot mess. So yeah, no kiddingdwich. Well that's another one.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So I'm guessing she got some money out of this
or was convinced by these filmmakers that this is your
chance to set the record straight, because that's how you
dupe somebody into doing this. But from the department of
stop digging, right, yet another round with this guy. She's
crazy though, she's It's like the Olympics. Every four years
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she comes around and entertains us with her her craziness.
She's like the Olympics. Every four years we get an update.
Oh yeah, I like gymnastics.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
The Sherry Peppini story. The real story is I wasn't
This is you know, dateline twenty twenty nine. I was
not abducted by my ex boyfriend. It was space aliens
and they probed my anus. That'll be the hook, all right, So.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Let me read a little from the Wikipedia. Sherry's husband,
Keith Peppini, first became concerned when he returned from his
job at Best Buy.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Poor son of a gun and his kids. Let's not
forget that two kids.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I'mber second twenty sixteen, so this is shortly before Thanksgiving,
which plays a role in this, and could not find
his wife at home. He eventually used define my iPhone
application to locate her cell phone and earbuds at the
intersection of Sunrise Driving Old Organ Trail, about a mile
from their home. Okay, that's up by reading California if
you know where that is, which is like a two
and a half hour drive from where she ended up,
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according to Shasta County Sheriff. In interviews, Peppini said she
was helped by two Hispanic women who took steps to
keep their faces hidden from her, either by wearing masks
or keeping Peppini's head covered. Peppini was branded on her
right shoulder during her purported captivity with the word Exodus.
When investigators questioned Sherry at a later date, she claimed
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that it looked like a verse from the Book of Exodus.
According to a statement by her husband, Sherry was physically
abused during their captivity, had her nose broken and her
hair cut off, and weighed eighty seven pounds when.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
She was released. Well, she was only gone for four days.
How much weight can you look? Was in four days?
Was it just four days? Wasn't that long? Was it
was Thanksgiving? Maybe it was longer? Okay, all cepried even
that's something.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
At the time, the sheriff said it was still an
active investigation and authorities were looking for a dark colored
suv with two Hispanic females armed with a handgun.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I remember when we were talking about this all the time.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Detectives had authored close to twenty search warrants, including some
in Michigan, and said they were examining cell phone records,
bank accounts, e mails, social media profiles. The FBI was involved.
Peppinie was found with both male and female DNA on
her neither of which matched her or her husband. The
FBI ran the samples blah blah blah. In March, the
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oh the DNA found on her clothing they eventually figured
out matched her ex boyfriend, James Reese, who she now
says is the guy that branded her and held her,
who confirmed that Peppini stayed with him at his residence
in southern California during the time she was allegedly kidnapped.
Have we heard much from him about what that was
like the the week or so that they spent together.
Was that just you know, loving bliss with sex, holding
(09:05):
hands and watching Netflix? Or was she as crazy as
she seems to be that whole time and he was like,
how do I get her out of here?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I'm guessing the second, because everybody said they did not
have sex at the time. Wow, what did they do
there the whole time? Netflix? Anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
In March of twenty twenty two, she was arrested by
the FBI, accused of lying to fade her allegiance, faking
her kidnapping to spend time with her ex boyfriend away
from her husband and family. Which makes you a very
very bad person. Although I think she is completely crazy.
Got thirty three counts of male fraud and all kinds
of different things because of the way the law works.
(09:47):
In September twenty second, this is probably all in the documentary.
She apologized and accepted full responsibility at her sentencing hearing.
Accept full responsibility as opposed to who else? Really, you're
taking responsibility for the whole disappearing on your family, cutting
your hair, branding yourself, claiming some Hispanic women abducted you.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
You're taking using the good name of Hispanic women everywhere,
you monster. Did we ever believe this had happened? Or
were we at first? Yeah? But as soon as the
facts of her abduction came out, it was like, come on,
Which is how that poor couple of Pedaluma, so many
people suspected them. If you remember this case in Pedaluma, California,
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who were alleging this bizarre, utterly illogical, really stupid kidnapping,
And it turns out it was a mentally ill former
marine who did all the exactly what the claim he did.
But it was so stupid and illogical it sounded like
the Sherry Peppini thing. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
At the time of her kidnapping, her disappearance was featured
extensively in national news true crime programs. Front cover of
People magazine. The outlets continue to cover the story after
the hoax was confirmed, including multiple true crime documentaries, News
Magazine and News Magazine episode Whooping Cough, and podcasts. There
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have been Lifetime shows, there have been Netflix shows. There've
been this crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Biach is a cottage industry.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Who Who's a limited documentary series Perfect Wife, The mysterious
disappearance of Sherry Peppini, not that mysterious. Eminem references the
kidnapping hoax and his song Houdini, That's funny. I heard
that on the radio just the other day, and I
heard that, and I thought, I wonder how many people
get that line with the line caught sleeping and see
the kidnapping never did happen, like Sherry Peppini, Harry Houdini,
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I vanished in the thin air as I'm leaving me.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
So I heard that just the other day, and I thought,
how many people get that? I understand we have a
new cut. That's the husband in an interview from last year,
when he first saw her at the hospital.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
When you first encountered her in the hospital, was your
first instinct?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I saw the look in her eyes.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
I felt in that moment that she was lying and
It wasn't until when I really got close and I
could just see the amount of injuries, bruises, burns to
her body, and it was a shock to me. And
I remember thinking, how horrible of me to even think
that she could have done this to herself.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Well, I wonder how quickly he got to reality and
then if he was ever in like a period of
jealous anger over the fact that she went to see
an ex boyfriend, or if he just immediately was able
to go to she's completely mentally ill. I can't be
angry at a mentally ill person. She's completely crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I mean, to.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Brand yourself, give yourself bruises, I mean, you're completely crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, I don't you're making a bigger deal of the
branding yourself because somebody likes that. I mean, you press
something hot to yourself, it will scar you immediately and
it'll hurt. But I mean, it's not like it's a
sizzling cattle brand or something. Now, you know, Joe soft peddling.
Self branding is a well the work of nut jobs,
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and I think it's I think it could have been
harder for this guy because I mean, as you said,
she's completely crazy. Now she's not a babbling psychotic. She's
a manipulative narcissist. And that's a slower road to travel
than Oh my god, my wife has lost a grip
on reality because she hasn't. She's not psychotic, she's just
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you know, back in the day they call it, would
have called her extremely neurotic. She's some borderline personality disorder.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Again, I'm gonna play that one clip for my kids.
If you ever meet a woman who sounds anything like this, none, No,
what if she's hot? Dad doesn't?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Matt in facts extra No, yes, yes, run run run,
give us, just get us thirty five again, Michael, to
wrap it.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Up and we'll go to break the sherry peppini that's
out there.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's not me, she's not real.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
It's just this version of me that has been created
to fit the narrative for the media's version of what happened?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
All right, Cuckoo, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getti The Armstrong
and Getty Show, The arm.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Strong and Getty Show I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
My neighbors are making me feel bad about myself and
super super nice people in this new neighborhood that I
live in, But my picture of them from my driveway is.
I've only had a couple of conversations with them. A
few conversations been their kids, that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Really nice.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
But my picture of them for my driveway, it's like
seeing their Facebook page with all the achievements and everything
that all the time, they're always up earlier than me
my kids. They're always out exercising, like with the kids,
bike rides and all this different sort of stuff. On
Sundays they're up early and the kids are all dressed
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up and they get to church. Every time I go
to the gym, he's there. It's like, are there two
of you? How do you do this? I don't understand
how you do this? Washing their cars in the drive
It's just like they're constantly doing productive things and and
like being just soproductive and happy. And it's just it's
I need to move somewhere where the people are like
(15:29):
just laying around.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
They're in super fit. I need I need to I
need to live. I need to live.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Next to people who are like oh bees, laying around
and even crap, their cars are.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Dirty, their kids looking right. Yeah, yeah, okay, well you
have you have three choices to me, all right. Number one,
there's that choice very attractive. Number two. Number two, you
could up your game and be as good or better
than your neighbors. Let's just put that one aside. Right,
(15:59):
Let's able that, at best third undermine their efforts. Now
here's the option. I'm interested in exploring. What can you
do to undermine that family their good habits and their happiness? Right,
that's just the best offense is a good defense. You
know that. Watching the NCAA tournament, Jack.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
God to admit, I'm looking for some downside to make
myself feel better. It's like, there's gotta be something going
on over there that's not perfect because it looks perfect. Yeah,
and I feel like they're doing it just to mock me.
That's their main motivation. Well, let's yeah, that's the key
is to take it personally.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yes, it only makes sense their excellence is an insult
to you. Yeah, it's a very productive, a great attitude
to have.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, when I when I walk out and I see
them with their kids all dressed up headed to Sunday school.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And I think my kids are still in bed, and
I just got up myself. Oh my good. Right, you've
got to resent them for that.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
You're gonna come home from church and then wash your
cars and then you're going to the gym.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Okay, that's not exactly what my plan is. Wow, well
have you read He'll Be Elegy? You really should, or
we're gonna read it. We're gonna eat too much bad
food and go back to sleep. It's sort of our plan,
but SATs their own exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
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Speaker 2 (17:18):
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Speaker 2 (17:55):
Congress, Congress'll give me a break.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Did you see her?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
She was out of control?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Those days are over?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
The days are the days are who?
Speaker 6 (18:04):
No I did?
Speaker 7 (18:04):
The days of.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Woke are over.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
That woman I don't I have no idea who she
is that woman was out of control.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
She was shoving federal agents, she was out of control.
The days of that crap are over in this country.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
We're gonna have law and order. You know.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
That reminds me. I can't let go of this topic.
I will in a second. But we got a text
from somebody. How come you guys gloss over Trump's obvious decline?
Why aren't you talking about that? You know that was
one of the big pushbacks during the whole Biden thing.
Look at Trump's rambling or when he gets things wrong,
which he does, and he does ramble and versus the thing,
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but you just heard him that they're not even in
the same ballpark of mental decline. It's apples and volkswagons
in terms.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Of mental decline.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
And yeah, and if you but if you actually believe that,
that's the why I want to bring this up.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
If you actually believe that you.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Have the same level of lying to yourself delusion that
allowed all this to happen because you're so wrong, because.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
You want it so badly to be true. Yeah, I
take a long look at yourself. I don't know what
else to suggest. Always say about looking in the mirror.
If you don't know what introspection is, take a long,
hard look at yourself. That was Trump commenting on the
arrest of Democratic New Jersey congress gal Monica mc ivor
(19:30):
what story, assaulted cops and ice officials and stuff like that,
then tried to hide behind race and whatever else. The lunatic. Yeah,
the charges against me are purely political. You're a hack,
you're a liar, you assaulted a cop. Enjoy the criminal
justice process. I hope it's long in our all.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
In the name of protecting illegal criminals.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
What Yeah, Well, keep going. Good look in that next election.
So a slightly different topic, but oddly connected. There's a
great piece by Will Swain in the National Review, who's
been following California politics and Gavin Newsom's absurdities and the
rest of that. He's also the president of the California
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Policy Center and is California and Will does great work.
We ought to talk to him someday. I don't think
we have. But so he's talking about as so many
people have. The California Globe has done a good job
on this too. Gavin Newsom's just shameless gas lighting on
the homeless crisis, or shameless dodge on the homeless price
crisis is Will Swain puts it, and how Gavy boy
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had the audacity and just I mean, you almost have
to have a sense of humor to try to say
the real problem that caused California's homeless crisis as it
exists right now is Trump's tariffs. Wow. I mean, like, wow, wow.
The guy's been governor and you know, a vice governor
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or whatever since was it twenty thirteen, twenty twelve. It
sits in here somewhere. It's quite a while. And Trump's
just I mean, I can't even it's not worth the
time to shoot that down. It's inpetently ridiculous. But I mean,
he's just trying so hard to come off as a moderate.
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As he said the other day, I've been always a
hard headed pragmatist, he told reporters. The hard headed pragmatist
did not mention that he has increased the state's budget
by fifty percent since twenty eighteen. I didn't know that
funding an array of boutique progressive programs. His green energy
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initiatives have killed the state's oil industry, wall jacking up
the price gasol into the heist in the nation. He
remains the state's cheerleader for a high speed rail project that,
five years after it was supposed to be done, hasn't
laid a foot of track, but has burned through at
least thirty three billion dollars and probably more. Nothing screams
pragmatists like the high speed rail, and most recently, he
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spent a budget busting ten billion dollars to extend medicaid
benefits to illegal immigrants. He has also spent and this
brings us to our main topic, twenty four billion dollars
more than the annual budget of twenty two states, in
a feckless effort to solve California's worse than the nation
homeless crisis. That is where Amy Bublack comes in. Amy
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is the mayor of Turlock, California, which is not terribly
far from the radio ranch. And we and the crew
are very very well acquainted with Turlockians and spent many
fine hours there and have many listeners there, and we
greet you and thank you for listening. But she's the
mayor of Turlock, which nobody has heard of around the country.
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But in the hours leading up to his horrific budget performance,
which was when he was talking to reporters and said
I'm a hard headed pragmatist, quoting a swam Here, Newsom
seems to have had a kind of nineteenth nervous breakdown.
Attempting to explain his whop high profile failure to eliminate
homelessness despite spending billions, he blamed local officials as a taxpayer,
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not just governor. I'm not interested in funding failure anymore.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I won't time to do your job. This is so rich.
Californians are vomiting even as they listen. People are dying
on their watch, dying on their way. I don't know
how do these people get re elected? Oh wow, wow,
Look at these encampments. They're a disgrace. They've been there
for years and years and years. I've heard that same
rhetoric for years. People are dying, kids are being born.
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They have been there for years and years. While you've
been governor for years and years. Right, as Red State
reporter pointed out, it's almost if he hadn't been either
governor or lieutenant governor since twenty twelve. Mm. But here's
the crazy part. Newsom decides that somebody needs a kicking,
and it's going to be amy Bou Black of beautiful Turlock, California,
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Central Valley. He reserved his most lethlamo for Boo Black
in a letter that his office leaked to reporters. She
first learned of the governor's letter from a political reporter
thirty or forty minutes before I got it in my email.
Once she read it, I thought, quote, this is crazy.
This man knows nothing about homelessness. Homelessness. He's going to
talk to me, of all people, Newsom said to Boo
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Black in the letter, it is imperative that the city
of reconsiderates priorities and demonstrate the kind of collaborative, accountable,
and solution oriented leadership that this crisis demands. Enough, do
your job. Here's what brought that on. The mayor's sin
and the action that brought her to Gavy Boy's attention,
her refusal to spend the symbolic sum of one dollar
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that would have unlocked a county homelessness homelessness grant of
two hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars in state money. Now. Reporters,
of course, dutifully conveyor belted the governor's letter into the
state's largest news outlets, and Newsome then promoted their stories
on x truly a lack of ridiculous, lack of local leadership,
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on absolute moral failure, he declared, throwing the amy bublacks
of the state under the bus for his policies. California
has invested billions to combat homelessness in Turlocke. Their only
shelter is at risk over a single dollar. The state
has done its part. Local leaders need to step up.
So why would this monstrous woman not spend a dollar? Well,
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she explained that two hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars
of California taxpayer money laundered through the county and then
to we Care a homeless shelter in Turlock would have
come with no accountability. People who live in the homes
near the center have complained for months about the shelter's residents,
who are not supposed to be in the facility during
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the day. They pee and poop and shoot up in
the neighborhood. They steal from people, garages, the rest of it.
And so the mayor says quote, Turlock City Council requested
a simple reasonable condition that we we Care expand access
to bathrooms twenty four hours a day, despite multiple discussions
where we Care appeared amenable to this condition, they refused
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to make the commitment. Instead, they chose to attend two
council meetings and publicly attack the council majority, believing public
pressure and threats would overrize the override thoughtful decision makings.
And we respect their efforts in addressing homelessness, but it's
clear that the change in direction was needed. We could
not in good conscience support a grant that did not
address core community concerns or deliver greater accountability. In other words,
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no more unaccountable quarters of a million dollars. These people
don't listen, They're not accountable. This is obscene and it's
not helping the homeless people quote unquote who actually need help.
I'm blowing the whistle on this.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Well find out for that, Kevin knew some attacked or
as we found out last year, tens and tens and
ten of gazillions of dollars have been spent all over
the state without anybody paying any attention to whether it
did any good or not.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
There wasn't even a mechanism for it. That's right. When
they tried to figure out whether there had been any
results Gavin Newsom had to admit, no, we don't even
have a way to figure that out. Yeah, and Amy said, no,
we're not going to continue down the same path that's
ruining our town. I'm calling this out and for that, Gavey,
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who's naked lust for the Oval office is just embarrassing,
decided to go ahead and punch way down to stomp
Amy Boublack to support his presidential aspirations.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Man, he's in a tough place given state of California
over the last several years.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I don't know how. I don't know how he runs
away from it. I don't think he can so. No,
He's a clever son of a gun for sure, and
he will try very hard. But I just think there's
too much weight, you know. I tweeted a great picture
of a bunch of junkies laying in their own filth
and garbage everywhere, with the California state capital in the
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in the background. It was taken on Capitol Avenue, Capitol Street, kemdil.
Very easy to do, Oh yeah yeah, and I captioned it.
I think, you know, Gavin Newsom for president in twenty
twenty eight. All fifty states can live the California dream.
There's no way he can run away from his record.
He'll try, but he will feel miserably and it will
be a bitterly enjoyable to watch. I'm looking forward to it.
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I hope the Good Lord grants me enough years that
I witness it personally. Why are you trying to eighty
six forty eight? So did the Secret Service actually go
see James Comy?
Speaker 6 (28:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
He didn't interview this morning. Was there anything interesting Hanson there? Comy?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I feel like that really revealed the Kmy being even
more of a dips than I thought.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
What'd you do that for?
Speaker 6 (29:02):
You?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Moron?
Speaker 8 (29:05):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
You have no judgment whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I always thought his judgment was poor, but it's incredibly poor.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I think if Komy thought he could get away with it,
he would go around in a crown in a long
purple road trimmed in white and black ermines.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I'm gonna read this tweet I came across, and if
you're you have to be a certain sort of person
even get it.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
But it's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Tapper's book is like All the President's Men if it
didn't name any of the men and was written by
John Erlikhman.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
That is pretty good. If you know you that, that's
really good.
Speaker 8 (29:39):
More on the way stay here The Armstrong and Getty Show.
More Jack or Joe podcasts and our hot links.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Back to the Big Beautiful Bill. I have announced my departure,
not only from the Republican Party but all politics. I've
given up, thrown up my hands. I will be moving
to Uruguay or Paraguay. I can never remember which one,
right because I have forgotten. Yeah, well, because I've given up.
But I found this very very interesting. Part of my
despair is that the Republican Party has abandoned any pretense
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at taming the budget, reducing the deficit, reducing the debt,
reigning in wildly out of control entitlement programs. And so
you know, I've got no home. I'm a homeless man.
I have no port in which to pull my little
boat to safety. But I found this really, really interesting,
and this is the reason why you know you ought
(30:43):
to be on my side. The Trump administration recently promised
that it will not cut Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid benefits.
Now I'm going to quote Phil Gram, the Great Philgram,
Well I was quoting last week, Fiscal conservative slash saying
of the past. Anyway, the determination not to reform retirement
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benefit entitlements is politically understandable. Third rail blah blah blah.
But there is no reason to include Medicaid, the nation's
most abused welfare program, in that pledge means tested welfare
or welfare tied to a person's income level or means
is the main driver of the budget deficit. It is
not Social Security, which is almost ninety percent self funded
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by its dedicated payroll tax interest ninety percent self funded,
or Medicare, which is fifty percent funded by premiums and
payroll taxes. Spending on Medicaid IRS, cash welfare payments, and
supplemental the SNAP program food stamps has grown in inflation
(31:51):
adjusted dollars. Those three things. Spending on Medicaid, cash welfare
payments that the fundable tax credits and SNAP have grown
inflation adjusted by six hundred and seventy one percent, fourteen
hundred and sixty three percent, and two hundred and ninety percent,
respectively since nineteen ninety. By contrast, total real Medicare, Social Security,
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and Defense expenditures have grown by three hundred and eighty,
three hundred and eighty six percent and thirty eight percent, respectively.
Medicaid numbers, yeah they are actually, but Medicaid absorbs seven
times as much general revenue as Social Security. Wow, more
than Social Security and medicare combined. I did not know that.
(32:36):
I know nobody's talking about this. Medicaid is this gigantic monster.
It's like Frankenstein if it was the side of Godzilla,
you know, just stomping across the countryside, crushing entire villages.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
So when we talk about people, you know, able bodied
people leeching off us taxpayers, this is the program where
they're doing a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Correct, Yeah, correct, And it has to do. And you know,
part of me wishes we had time. Part of me
is glad that we don't uh to explain the bizarre
states intentionally tax hospitals and doctors so then they can
spend more than they can build a federal government more
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for Medicaid. Then the federal government gives them more money
for Medicaid, which they then give back to the doctors
and hospitals, and the stupid, stupid federal taxpayer pays for
all of it. It's just this giant scam slash scheme.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
We actually have the great Craig Gottwalals on tomorrow to
probably explain some of this.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Oh yeah he did. Yeah, he's a perfect I'd ask
about this. But it all has to do with Obamacare
and the Medicaid expansion. Do you remember that? And a
lot of Red states said no, we don't want this money,
and they were criticized, how dare you deny medical care
to pay? And the Blue states accepted it. Well. Now,
as has been discussed at least somewhat lately, federal tax
pay for ninety percent of the bills of healthy, working
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age men who get Medicaid, poor pregnant ladies get I
think it's a third. It's so perverse and upside down.
One final point, and this is actually the main point
of Phil Graham's article, which I found really interesting. The
title is the Census defines the poverty rate Up and Jack,
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this is something you have hit many times through the years.
But during the War on Poverty, the government adopted a
common sense definition of poverty having resources that are not
enough to meet basic needs. The problem is they didn't
scale a lot of this to inflation. Some of it
they did, but they've begun not counting government transfers. Eighty
(34:49):
eight percent of government transfers that poor quote unquote poor
people get are not counted. When you ask, all right,
is this person poor? Do they need mo more stuff,
more aid, that sort of thing, they pretend that all
the rest of the government aid hadn't happened.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Right, So if you're living on using my finger was
living on twenty eight thousand dollars a year, somehow they
only count that for political purposes when they're making arguments.
They don't count the maybe another eighty thousand dollars you
might be getting in all kinds of transfer payments, all
kinds of different stuff, housing subsidies, food help, medical help,
all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Doesn't count it, and adjusted for inflation. Now those classified
as poor have almost twenty times the purchasing power they
had when the War on Poverty began, Yet they're still
called poor people for the purposes of growing these programs.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah, we have talked about this. Forer is that needs
to be straightened out. That would be a huge change
in our politics. We could let more people know that
are strong.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
See Armstrong and Getty show.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Yeah, Marjah, Your Shoe podcasts, and our hot links and
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