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June 18, 2025 35 mins

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  • Halfway through the week & Gabbard vs Trump
  • Katie Green's Headlines!
  • The bunker buster bomb & our favorite pies
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Armstrong and Jetty and he arms you get it from
the studio.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
See see your a dimly lit room deep with them,
the fowls of the.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Armstrong and Getty communication.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Damn it.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I don't know if I've ever secured that line out before.
I'm not sure you have.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
This is a bad omen Oh, this is a rough start. Stumbles,
that's biden esque. Can't even do the most basic stuff.
You're gonna in for a problem. Arm Strong and getting
communicat compound, and today we're under the tutelage of our
general manager, the Massive Ordinance Penetrator, also known as the

(01:09):
GBU fifty seven, also known as the Bunker Buster, also
known as the Mother of all bombs, the moab.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
That's right, and we may or made more nicknames than
old Ditty Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Here's my favorite thing that has happened that I've come across.
It's that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard has warned the people
of Tel.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Aviv that they need to evacuate.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
They are not evacuating, they are not streams people out
of Tel Aviv currently, although they are getting you know,
some bombs, but certainly, yeah, everybody's being cautious. It's not
a laughing matter, but that is pretty obviously what it is. Yeah,
exactly before we get back to looming war. The number

(01:56):
of different shows that I've tuned in today that had
some version of, well, we made it to Wednesday, or
we're halfway through the week, We're almost there. Everybody, how
many of you all look at life that way? Is
every week like just.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Trudging along?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
It's such a difficult, arduous manner that just getting to
Wednesday is like, thank God?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Is that most people's lives.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Are just I feel like it's not for me, you know,
I'm gonna be honest. I get a little bit of
a cheer, good cheer going when I'm on the down.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Side of the week, Michael heading for the weekend. Of course,
my weekends are very different than yours at this point
in our lives. So Michael, yeah, I'm like Joe, I
get yeah around the camp in the minority. Katie, Yeah,
I'm the same way.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Okay, So you get to Wednesday and you feel like,
oh cool, I'm almost done with this this.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Horrible, horrible thing that I've got which is my job day?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Right, exactly one of us is a bitter, angry troll
dwelling under a bridge, shouting it faster, spy. We'll let
you guess which one. I guess it's because the bridge
of the week to the pot of gold of the week.
I guess it's because my weekend is roughly the same
amount of work as my weekday. A right, maybe that's yeah.
Cocktails and golf mostly for me these days. My children

(03:11):
are grown.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Uh uh.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
I have to buy it, drive to LA and back
to pick up my son from the boy Scout camp.
So well, I'm not looking forward to that. A lot
of beautiful scenery.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Actually find it. I was.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
I was talking to my son and I said, people
complain about this all the time. I think it's gorgeous,
But I like open fields and stuff like that. That
I'm from the Midwest and that's what we have, open fields.
I think it's beautiful. And oh, it's such an ugly drive.
If it's the time of year where it's all dust
and smog, it's not very nice. But when it's clear,
I think open fields are beautiful. Anyway, nobody tuned in

(03:47):
to hear that he's old enough to hitch you put
your thumb in the air, just keeping shack. He doesn't
care about it getting too b Wednesday. And he likes
ugly scenery.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Okay, it's not ugly.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's beautibjectively ugly if you don't like feelings. But a
lot of stone A lot of people I know, lots
of people like driving through Iowa, Missouri open field just ugly.
I find it gorgeous for some reason. People go to
Ireland or someplace and see open fields and they find
it beautiful. But in the United States it's ugly. I've
never quite understood that we gotta get more stone fences here.

(04:22):
Maybe it's quaint. My other favorite thing I've come across today,
Politico is reporting that Donald Trump was in sensed when
he saw that Tulsi Gabbard video last week and was
really pissed off and thought she was out of line
and how dare she which would have something to do
with maybe him yesterday on the plane saying, I don't
care what she thinks. That was his own dn I

(04:46):
several months ago. That's odd that he would react that way.
But to the Hiroshima video, Oh I touch you meant
that the audio everybody's playing yesterday now, the video that
they she put out last week. He was incensed when
he saw that, thought she was incredibly out of line.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I don't understand. I can't see how he wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
React to it right, and that would way into him
being smacked by it, and that would play into him
yesterday saying I don't care what she thinks the way
he did so dispensively. I'm telling you this is the classic.
I'm not going to be forced into firing somebody. I'm
gonna wait till the dust settles, then I'm gonna fire them.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
She's gone.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, Well, the Daily showed joke on Tulci Gabbard, and
I know some of you don't agree with this at.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
All, but was.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
That's the advantage of hiring somebody crazy and completely unqualified
is when they make some sort of comment, you can
just say, well, she's crazy unqualified, which he basically said.
You know, he said, I don't care what she thinks.
She's the director of National Intelligence. She's got, in theory,
the most information of anybody on planet Earth to give

(05:58):
to you on any given object. I wonder how forthcoming
the higher levels of safe CI are because she remember
that's a coordinating post. Sure to some extent, it ensures
that information is being shared between agencies and and their
their turf isn't jealously guarded like it used to be

(06:19):
in the past.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Terrible detriment to avoid stove piping. What now stove piping?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
That's what got us in the nine to eleven You
had you had one intelligence agency that had information and
their stove pipe, and then another agency that had their
information their stove pipe, and they didn't work together in
any way. And that's and we could have seen nine
to eleven comings so that the DNI is actually.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Hamming up their chimney. That's what she got.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
It to the DNI is a reaction to that. But
I'll bet you're right. I'll bet a lot of the
intelligence people are holding back stuff from her. But you're
right about that. Yeah, I would guess that because they
don't trust her and or agree with her. Now there
are more people I feel like making me this is

(07:03):
Iraq all over again. Weapons of mass destruction argument, partially
with the help of Telsea Gabbert because he got some
people screaming out there, no, they aren't close to a
bomb and bbe says they are. Pete Hegseeth says they are.
I was picturing Colan Powell at the UN with his
little vials.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Oh yeah, the parallels are there. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
I think the facts are different, but that's not a
crazy question to ask, at the very least, also worth remembering.
I think this gets left out of some people's conversation
about Iraq. Satam Mussein's own generals believed they had weapons
of mass destruction? Correct, wasn't just our government making this
crap up in all of his enemies to get oil

(07:46):
or something which we somehow didn't end.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Up with, right right?

Speaker 1 (07:49):
There were many moronic arguments on that side of the
page too. So here is your bunker buster fact of
the day.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Cool. It's designed to.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Blast through two hundred feet of solid rock before it explodes.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Wow, how does it do that?

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Just its weighte And then you got a thirty thousand
pound bamuth about to go Kurt blue. Its design is
really interesting, fascinating. It's propulsion systems, Bubba. I've got quite
a bit of information on it. I'm looking forward.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
To sharing it.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Although something that weighs thirty thousand pounds falling at maximum
of asault velocity would go quite away down. I would
think on its own, that's heavy, Michael. What weighs more
a pound of lead or a pound of feathers?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
A good one, that's a classic. I'd say, lead childhood class.
That's correct.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Okay, let's start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong, He's
Joe Getty on this It is Wednesday, June eighteenth, the
year twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
We are armstrong in getting we approve of this program.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Let's begin then, officially, according to FCC rules and regulations.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Here we go at Mark.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
The Iatola is saying that he's not going to surrender,
even though President Trump has publicly stated that the Pentagon
has him and it's crosshairs. The President says, we know
exactly where the so called Supreme Leader is hiding. He
is an easy target, but it's safe there. We are
not going to take him out kill, at least not
for now. But we don't want missiles shot at civilians
or American soldiers. Our patience is wearing thin. Thank you

(09:23):
for your attention to this matter.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's our favorite part. Thank you for your attention to
this matter.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Like he was sending a memo out to everyone, We've
cleaned the refrigerator. Let's try to keep it tidy from
here on out. Folks keep thank you for your attention
to this matter. Somebody keeps using the heavy stock in
the copy machine and it keeps jamming. I remind you
you need to use the copy your paper. Thank you
for your attention to this matter. Pull the front door

(09:51):
all the way closed. It doesn't latch, Otherwise, if it
doesn't click, it's not all the way closed. Thank you
for your attention to this matter. Or or we know
where you are. We're going to kill you soon. Don't
be shooting at our troops. Thank you for your attention
to this matter. Good luck in your future endeavors. Wow, yeah,

(10:14):
that's funny. Ending to that, do you think we and
or Israel actually know where the Aetola is? They've known
where all these generals are and the scientists. I was
going to say at this point, I would not cast
dispersions towards the Israeli intelligence services. Ability to know where
anybody is at any given moment is the son of

(10:34):
the Shaw. If you're old enough to remember the Shaw
by Ryan, who was in charge before the Iranian revolution
in the Aetola took over in nineteen seventy nine. Is
the son of the Shaw going to end up back
in charge of Iran. That's the push over the last
twenty four hours. It's an interesting one. So we can
talk about that. We got Ky's headlines. We've got a

(10:55):
bunch of stuff owned. Another thing, Oh, one thing I'm
actually excited about is our move toward nuclear power.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
That Trump's pushing.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
But it's not getting any attention, obviously because we've got
a number of wars going on.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
But I do want to talk about that. That's an
interesting story. Love that.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, we're some developments in the Diddy trial, a lot
on the way. I hope you can stay here. If
you just look at mainstream media coverage, the cable news anyway,
their big story is the clash between mega isolationists and
GOP hawks, the Civil.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
War and the Republican Party. Okay, funny, you should bring
that up.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I have a recent poll that would suggest that's a
silly headline. Cool, because I'm silly narrative. I assume it's
way more one side than the other. So I can't
wait to hear that. We've also got Tucker Carlson had
Ted Cruz on his show and got into a little
debate with him. And I don't know if Tucker Carlson
was aware that Ted Cruz was a college debate national

(11:57):
debate champion, but he was. And Ted Crews doesn't mind
arguing with anybody. And it's very sprightly. I mean, it's
it's a good little argument. Excellent final thought before we
get into the headlines. It's just useful let these things out.
We will have human beings on Mars before my pharmacy
is able to coordinate having all three of my prescriptions
ready at the same time. Humans will colonize Mars and

(12:20):
be playing NBA games before they can get that s together.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Tough, isn't it. It must be beyond the canon of
human kind to figure that out. All right, I'm done.
Don't get me started on the whole pharmacy thing.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, I'll bet all right, here we go. Let's figure
out who's reporting what.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
It's the lead story with Katie Green Katie.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Starting with ABC. War will be met with war. Iran
warns the United States.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
And what are you gonna use? What are you what
are you gonna fight back with? There?

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Iran just strong statements. Mother of all battles. Blood Run
into the streets, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
From the New York Times images of handcuffed Democrats starting
to pile.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Up in Trump's crackdown. Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's it's the publicity stunt.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Du jore.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
You show up and join arms within illegal who ice
is trying to arrest and they're like, all right now,
we got to arrest you too. He no, no, look
at me, Look at you might want to send twenty
bucks to my website.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Oh, log at me, suffering for what is good?

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Decent?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Please? Fascism, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Right, blah blah blah totalitarianism.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
From Reuters, Trump is to again extend TikTok's retrieve from
US band.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
M what the hell is that?

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Totally against it and not a big outcry from Congress
on either side. So because they like the TikTok and
fundraising and everything on it.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
So yeah, that's my other constituents, sure do.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, that's a tough It doesn't seem like a tough
one to me. It's a Chinese spy tool. But the
fact that we're not following the law on yet another thing.
It's almost a lab created or AI created experiment in
political courage and everybody's failing it. Trump, explain yourself, it's
I don't get it, or maybe a lab created experiment

(14:13):
in decadence a country that's like, yeah, it's a spy
tool for our number one enemy, but sure is fun.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
So yeah, speaking of from Breitbart, Alabama police say Chinese
illegal on student visa posed as federal marshal to scam
elderly victim out of four hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Awful.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
From CNN, Amazon says it will reduce its workforce as
AI replaces human employees.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, I was just reading up on that.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
There is a huge move in corporate America right now
to downsize, which.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Which employees are getting replaced by AI?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
At Amazon, a lot of white collar middle management. And
this is not just Amazon, it's all sorts of companies,
but people doing like computer stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Uh yeah, I can dig into it again, but yeah, yeah,
it's it's not the guys.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Well, actually it is the guys in the warehouse doing
the physical work too, because they're getting better and better
at automating that.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
From the Wall Street Journal, private space stations are racing
to be the next quote it destination.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Private space stations. Well, now that you know the Louver
and what we're talking about yesterday. The various hot spots.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
For tourism around the world are so crowded that people
are miserable.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
They're venice. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, you go to your private space station. That's your
cool place. The room's a little cramped, but the views great.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
The view would be amazing.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
From study fines, a flesh eating fly is spreading north
to the United States, and it could devastate livestock.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Farming if not controlled. Does it do anything? Does it
do anything to humans? It does, it can spread to us.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
That's the first thing I'm gonna think tonight when something
lands on.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Me, well, I hope that's not a flesh eating fly.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Tell you what we need to We need to form
an alliance with the murder hornets.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Are hornet brothers, take on these flies. This is called
the New World screwworm. Oh thank god myself. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
From the New York Post the eighty year old man
who held a plank for fifty minutes.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Whoa he stuck a rod in his pants.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I think he cheated. There's no way you hold the
plank for fifty minutes.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Wow, it's terrible. I was going to salute the plucky ulster.
He's courage, achievement, osteoporosis. His bones are all locked up.
He couldn't mop it if he wants.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Finally, the Babylon b San Francisco protesters spell out no
King with sidewalk poop.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Oh boy, oh no. See that's in effective.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Criticism of progressivism. That headline there. So we're gonna drop
the Mother of All bombs. We got all the details
on that. It's really quite the piece of machinery, among
other things on the way.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I hope you can stick around, Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
We're going to try to get Mike Lions back on
our favorite military strategist advisor, thinker guy, analysts, analysts, and
I mean we had him on Monday, but so much
has changed in the last couple of days. I'd like
to hear him lay out a worst case scenario for
things going wrong in Iran's response, because I don't have

(17:47):
enough knowledge to know what that would look.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Like, right right, Yeah, I would love to talk some.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
So we've got some really interesting information on the will
they or won't they?

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Will he or won't he?

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Unleash the massive ordnance penetrator Mother of all bombs.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
GBU fifty seven. Let's just call it the bunker buster.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Jennifer Griffin of Fox News to tell us a little
bit more about the weapon the decision.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
All eyes now on Whitman Air Force Base in Missouri,
home to the B two stealth bombers, which are designed
to carry two thirty thousand pound GBU fifty seven bunker
buster bombs. The Massive Ordnance Penetrator or MOP, the only
conventional munition capable of reaching deep underground and into mountain

(18:35):
sides and hitting the main nuclear site at FORDO, one
hundred and twenty miles south of Tehran and three hundred
feet underground. Usually, the way this works, each B two
can carry two of these bunker busters, these thirty thousand
pound bombs. They drop one, then they circle back, or
a second bomber will circle and drop in the same spot.

(18:55):
So usually it is a two bomb process.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
If you will, a.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Plane carry sixty thousand pounds of bombs.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, I know, it's astounding.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, the B two stealth bombers are just a spectacular achievement.
But yeah, as we mentioned earlier, this bomb, the Bunkerbuster,
is designed to plummet through two hundred feet of mountain
rock before it explodes and then it's a massive, massive explosion.
So are we under the impression that there are scientists

(19:28):
down there working right now?

Speaker 2 (19:30):
I would schedule my vagation.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
I yeah, I suspect that they're going as fast as
they possibly can, definitely trying to develop a nuclear Well,
I'm going to use my personal day or my spirit
day or whatever the company allows to take the next
couple of days off. Yeah, not feeling real good. Surelby
right his reign by next Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Military analyst said the large bunkerbuster has the best chance
of getting through to targets like the four to oh
uranium and Richmond facility, which are on buried under a mountain.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Good idea on their part.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
And honestly, Mark Kansion, whose job with the military and
later as a civilian at the Pentagon was matching bombs
to targets, I didn't know that was a gig, but
it makes perfect sense, sure. I mean, you wouldn't shoot
a nine millimeter a bullet at a tank, for instance,

(20:24):
and you wouldn't try to take out a hut with
something on this sarily large.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Right.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Anyway, He says that the FOIDOH is essentially what it's
designed for. Before bunker busters, the military figured that could
turn to nuclear weapons to blast through mountains, but that
is obviously unpalatable for global political reasons. Nobody wants to
use them for anything, and so the US worked on

(20:52):
a new conventional alternatiment, spent four hundred million dollars to
develop and define refine the MOP. We now have around
two twenty of them designed to be delivered once again
by the B twos. It's quite the tool. Speaking of which,
turning to the free the tool, what are you supposed

(21:14):
to just leave that lane there? Yes?

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Among adults go on.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
So apparently if we even if we gave that bomb
to anybody, there isn't anybody else that could drop it.
There's nobody else that's got the plane that could pick
it up, cary and drop it correct and the pilots
that know, you know how to do that. I mean,
I'm not a pilot, but can you imagine flying an
aircraft and in an instant being suddenly thirty thousand pounds lighter, as.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
In right, right, right, gotta know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I thought this was an interesting perspective from the free
Beacon should President Trump decide to join Nuclear's military I'm sorry,
Israel's military campaign. An attack on photo could eradicate decades
of nuclear no how crippling Taran's ability to build a nuke.
According to a bunch of analysts and officials they talked to,
only we possess the advanced bunker busters could wipe out

(22:11):
a complex underground where Tranto is believed to store its
most sensitive nuclear equipment. The heavily guarden site contains five
above ground entrances. According to recent satellite images, they lead
into labyrinthine passageways that reach up to three hundred feet
below ground, fortifying the site against most conventional weapons in
Israel's Arsenal three hundred feet So thirty stories underground, I'd

(22:35):
be a little ooged out having to go to work
thirty stories underground. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, I've been down in a coal mine, and.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
If you're not prone to freaking out about it, it's
an uneasy feeling. But well, if you're all prone to
freaking out, you'd freak out. Of course. I've been under
the ocean a submarine too, and but yeah, it's it's scary. Yeah, certually,
if the US is raining down the largest bomb ever built.
The subways in Russia are super deep like that because
they're supposed to be a bomb proof for nuclear war.

(23:07):
And when I would go down those escalators, I think
gees were way down underground, it would freak me out.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Interesting, So yeah, the plan would be depending on you know,
the particulars the engineers I'm sure are studying the question.
You'd you'd hit a particular point with the first bunker buster.
It burrows two hundred feet through solid rock, then goes
kerk Lewis. Then you hit that very same spot with
a second one, and then perhaps a third and fourth

(23:36):
and that's how you you know, like like the world's
most explosive mole, you get way way underground to do
catastrophic damage.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
The world's most explosive mole. That's right.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
And it's been pointed out that this sort of physical damage,
on top of the mysterious depths of a number of
Iran's leading nuclear scientists, it would really set them back
a very long time.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
You know.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
If I was going to steal man the other side's argument,
part of it would be the argument that this is
a war of choice and not necessity. I don't agree
with it. But it would be that they have been
claiming that Iran is like a week from getting a

(24:25):
nuclear bomb.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
It's similar to.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
The US debt can't continue to be this, we like this,
It just it can't go on. I've been saying that
my whole life, and it keeps going on. And they've
been saying Iran is this close to there, just a
week away or a month away or whatever they are
from getting a nuclear.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Up and forever. What gives there.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Is somehow get pushed back all the time or were
they exaggerating then but not now, particularly the particularly BB Yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, he has an existential motivation to maximize
the threat, of course, because if he airs five minutes
to the overly comfortable side of things, ah, they won't

(25:13):
get one anytime soon. Israel could cease to exist. So
you know, I'm going to leave him aside. I would
say that, having followed this for years and years, it
depends who you listen to, what the estimates are, And
there's a lot of could be because Iran worked very
hard to keep secrets as well as it could. And yeah,
there would be agreements and treaties that would slow them down.

(25:35):
They would give up certain capabilities in return for the
heat being off. And then you'd try to think, Okay,
how much did they really give off? What are they
doing behind the give up? Rather, how much are they
doing behind the scenes to accelerate you know, and we
don't know about it in violation of the treaty. It's
a tough tough number to come up with how close

(25:57):
they actually are. But Ian Bremer, who's a friend of
the Arms and Getty shows, going on a bunch of
shows this week saying that bib Net and Yaho's doing
this because he's in political trouble.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Ian Bremmer also tweeted out yesterday, I expect Trump goes
forward with direct military strikes. It's an unnecessary risk. In
my view, I would advise against it. It's an unnecessary
risk to try to take out the nuclear weapons facility,
as opposed to its unnecessary risk to let it go
and let them get a weapon. Or does Ian Bremmer

(26:31):
think they won't. Of course, he's a guy as a
as a you know, more international globalist than I am,
that you can always make all these international deals that
international organizations will enforce, and I yes, I just don't
believe that that plays out quite that way.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah. I really like Ian.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, absolutely, He's a very global think tanky guy.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Definitely.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
And then one more thing from Ian Bremer's twitter feed,
which I thought was good because this just came out.
A poll asks if Americans think the US military should
get involved in the conflict between Israel and Iran.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I don't know if I like that wording. You could
word it should.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
If you worded it, should the United States States help
Israel stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
I think the answer would be a lot different.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Then should the US military get involved in the conflict
between Israel Iran? But currently it's no, sixty percent, yes,
sixteen Only sixteen percent of people said yes.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
I find that now we should get quote unquote get involved?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Should the US military get involved in the conflict between
Israel Ran? Like I said, I think if you worded it,
should the United States help Israel stop Iran from getting.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
A nuclear weapon? Yeah? I think you could flip those numbers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Interesting. I'm looking at a couple of polls right now.
They're not poles I'm really familiar with. Here's the gray
House Poll, the League of American Workers Poll. According to
this gray House poll whatever that is. Was this about Iran?
Or is this what's your favorite pie? Is that what
you're in? Well, I'm getting to that found that eighty

(28:17):
three percent of those voters support the strikes on Tehran's
nuclear programs Israel's strikes, and ninety five percent approve of
Trump as the president rallies behind the Jewish state. That's
a I'm not comfortable commenting on polls I know nothing about.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
The same poll shortly after, conducted shortly after Israel began
its war effort, shows that sixty seven percent of those
who voted for Trump strongly support the attack on Tehran's
nuclear facilities sixteen percent so they somewhat approve. Well, this
is this you Go poll, which is a pretty respected organization.
Only sixteen percent you say yes. But again it's I
think it's worded in such a squishy way. But that's

(28:58):
in the indication of how we how let's not get
involved the Middle East again? We are as a population, right, Yeah, yeah,
I need to see more poles come out. Honestly, it's
it's easy to get a distorted sense of who believes
what through a the mainstream media and B you know, Twitter, Also,
this is definitely though, the sort of thing that this

(29:21):
is why you get paid the big money. Though you
don't really get paid the big money as president of
the United States. This is why you get paid the
big historical value. You're not supposed to do this based
on the poles. Is this a good idea?

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Not?

Speaker 1 (29:32):
The President's going to make the call. Maybe he already
has in the next day or so. Quick question, what
is your favorite pie?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Michael? That's my poll? Banana cream? Banana cream?

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Interesting? Oh, Katie's favorite pie fringe pie. I call it
forest fruit. But just like a very berry, well you know, BlackBerry,
multiple berry piek berry. Choose a berry? Joe getty, wishy washy?
This is so hard?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Make it your mind?

Speaker 2 (30:02):
It absolutely is?

Speaker 1 (30:04):
She you shut up, berry girl. The powerful tool can't
come up with his favorite pie.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
It's like beetles or stones. I don't know. Why do
I have to choose? Why are you making me choose?
All right?

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Key Lime? I freaking love key lime pie. Oh, says
you pick a berry. I'm an American, so I'm gonna
go apple. We've got mail bag on the way.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Stay here. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yes, Oh my god, I think I'm gonna go to
Florida with the kids for vacation. We're on vacation week
after next to Florida when it's super super hot. I
will go when places are unpleasant to avoid crowds. Kind
of speaking of that story yesterday about Europe being so

(30:47):
crowded and people are hating it. Yeah, some of my
favorite travel memories are exactly the same. You throw on
a jacket, or you drink a little more of water
or whatever. It takes, right, and it's the huge throngs
are not there. Got a lot to talk about. First
of all, your freedom loving quote of the day. This
is from the Great Salmon Rush Team. I'm a big

(31:09):
Rushdie fan. L the way he's a weirdo. He is weirdo,
and it's a responsive Yeah, he's a brilliant weirdo.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
But that's fine.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
The response of anybody interested in liberty is that we
all have a say and the ability to have an
argument is exactly what liberty is, even though it may
never be resolved. Again, I read that poorly. We all
have a say and the ability to have an argument.
That's what liberty is. And in any authoritarian society the

(31:37):
possessor of power dictates, and if you try to step outside,
he'll come after you. When Iran decided they wanted to
kill him for the book, he wrote the number of
people from.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Margaret Thatcher too.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
I mean just people you can't imagine who like kinda
you know, I kind of understand where a Ram's coming from.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Is just amazing.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
We have been too soft on ra Islam for a
long time, I would agree.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Don't get me started.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
That was an early sign of the accommodationist to impulse
the uh they what they call it appeasement crowd.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, mailbag apparely have any time, but we'll squeeze some.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
In drop us note mailbag at Armstrong egetty dot com.
Next hour, a couple of emails from loyal listeners against
any involvement in the US helping Israel. We will let
them steal man their own argument and hash it out
for we. Here first, this from Aaron. I told you
I toolah yah all along, we'd come knocking. When you're

(32:40):
riched your uranium, Martyrdam's not so much fun when it's
your top brass doing all the dying. Looks like this
sheite is really hitting the fan. Your seventy two virgins
are all awaiting your chain of command.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Okay, I'm done your flights. I told you this was
gonna happen. Wow.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
On the topic of returning to the old bait, we
talked about yesterday, renaming them for a different guy named Bragg,
not the Confederate general, a different hero named Bragg.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
He mentioned this.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
About thirty years ago. In my hometown in Louisiana had
a similar issue. People want to rename the main street
in the city because the namesake was a slaveholder.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Too expensive for a little town. So the compromise was
that the street.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Was renamed for the man's grandson, who had none of
the baggage. Solved the pr quandary minimal cost. It's silly
to me it does. There's more on this topic. Mike
in Northern Minnesota rights grown up. I had no idea
who the Armed Forces forts were named after until we
never brought it to light. Then, as much as I

(33:39):
hated the Wolke reasoning, it did seem odd that they
were named after Confederate generals. On a similar note, most
Northwestern cities are named after prominent officers.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
From Indian Wars.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Miles City, Montana's General Nelson Miles Sturgis, South Dakota Major
Samuel Sturgis. Yeah, I did know that. That hang how
long before the left wants to change those names. I'm
sure they want to change right now. Yeah, I didn't
know who the various bases were named for repeating the
names my whole life. Of course, those generals were not
in open rebellion against the United States. This is a

(34:10):
great point from Steve and Everett Washington. The callback to
previous names of forts like Fort Bragg is important for
the following reasons. Seventy to eighty percent of new recruits
have family ties with the military within two generations. According
to a recent Pentagon report, family history in the military
is the greatest predictor of whether a candidate will join. However,

(34:32):
according to a study by Blue Star Families, the likelihood
that a family member with prior service would recommend the
military to their children dropped from fifty five percent to
thirty two percent in seven years. Recently, it is clear
that the Biden presidency had a negative effect on recruitment.
I believe part of that is the result of renaming
the bases for what many veterans perceive as woke reasons.

(34:54):
If my grandfather and father served at Fort Bragg, I
want nothing to do with Fort Freedom.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
I want to serve whatd of my family you serve
Fort Pragg.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Imagine if your father and grandfather played for the Ohio
State Buckeyes, but somebody change the team name to the
Sparkle Ponies. Odds are you'd be less enthused and matriculating
to that school. The title of his email is the
Fort Freedom Sparkle Ponies. Well did the Buckeyes try to
overthrow the US government?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Now?

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I understand the point there. I understand the point there. Well,
they found an interesting workaround.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Didn't they.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
It seems a little dopey and phony, But if we
can now move on to important stuff, I'll accept it.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Like war a lot more an hour two.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
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