June 23, 2025 • 35 mins
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- The midnight hammer & the war in Iran
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, Armstrong and get
Katie and He Armstrong and Eddy. We are on a
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more putting live from Studio.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Ceor a dimly lit room deeds within the bowels of
the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound, and today we are
under the tutelage of our general.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Manager, Midnight Hammer. Is that the name of this operation
sounds like the title of a heavy metal album by
unnecessarily over the top Norwegian metal band. But guess that
was the name of the the bombing runs against Auran
operation Midnight Hammer.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Maybe some guy's Twitter profile who thinks that's gonna play well,
but it's not.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh yeah, it has that field, but these are serious times.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Enough birth when he want to date the Midnight Hamper.
Oh yeah, So I thought I had a handle on
where everything was going untill I saw Trump's late tweet
Sunday with Mega in it. Mega make I ran great again? Uh?
(01:19):
Suggesting regime change is a good idea after every single
one of the people that worked for him went on
every single talk show on Sunday and said this is
absolutely not about regime change. He did a classic Trump
move where he comes out with a tweet right after
they say that and said, you know, regime change.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And people say it like it's a dirty word, but
you know it might be a good idea. Make him
make a ran great again.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Thanks for sending me out there on Meet the Press
to say this is absolutely not regime change.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Really good time. Had nothing better to do on my Sunday,
so that was great. Yeah, it is a very very
Trumpian thing, not only you know, trotting his aides out
there and then undermining them, but ignoring the conventions of this,
that or the other, including diplomacy. I mean, any sane
human being would say yeah. I mean, there'd be a
(02:03):
hell of a lot of uncertainty and it could go wrong,
but yeah, I mean in general, regime change would be great.
I mean everybody thinks that. But you can't say that
for a variety of reasons, some of which are pretty legitimate.
But Trump doesn't care. I tell you.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I was sure annoyed by the coverage of everything pretty
much except for Fox, but even someone Fox, all the
coverage was so annoying. It was all presented with the
this was a risky thing to do and probably not
a good idea and mostly downside as opposed to there
was no choice. It went awesome and uh hooray for us. No,
(02:40):
and now what, there's nothing wrong with this? So now
you know, what are the things they could do back?
That's a reasonable conversation. But after the tone of a boy,
another crazy thing that we've done.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I just I've got to see an end pull in
front of me. Let me dig that up real quick.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Overwhelming support for this, I mean not even close.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Is that right? Yeah? Huh, I'll find that you.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
But it's like any here, it is all adults. Well,
just the idea of the United States needs to do
something to eliminate to stop the Iran's nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Now it's a.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Broadish question, but eighty percent of adults said we need
to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Eighty percent right.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
That includes eighty percent Democrats, seventy nine percent of Independence
and eighty three percent of the Republicans sow.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That is remarkably uniform across the aisle line.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, so why presented deze boy? I don't know if
this is a good idea. What was your plan? That's
what I would have said on every one of those
talk shows. If I was representing the White House, what
would you have done? Let them get a nuclear weapon?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I don't think anybody's in favor of recklessness or idiotic
you know, moves without you know, looking down the road
at what might happen. But it does frequently have the
feel of, you know, the patient has serious cancer and
they just rub their chin and say radiation. It can
have some serious side effects, and chemotherapy makes people very,
(04:09):
very sick, and surgery is cutting someone open. Yeah, and
then the patient is dead. Well, the patient is in
this or rather twisted metaphor, this is Iran having a
newke and being able to threaten the civilized world with
there is crazy is longest religious, fundamental wack of doodlry
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in a way that the whole world he's united in
hating that idea. But most of the world gets to
watch us prosecute, well in Israel, God bless them, Israel
and the United States prosecute the what's necessary to prevent
at but they get to sit in their capitals and
the Euros of just speaking of being annoyed annoyed the
(04:51):
hell out of me. Over the last several years, the
Euros get to sit there and say, well, we're in
favor of de escalation both sides. Is good. We need
a limit of the violence. Blah blah blah. Okay, thanks
for your opinion. Congratulations on your empire two hundred years ago.
It was great.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
So how many of these bunker bumpetbusters fourteen I think that.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
We dropped total, that's number I heard. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So we've got the bombs nobody else has got in
the planes to fly them that nobody else has got.
That's one of the things I was thinking over the weekend.
I like this period of time that has existed for
about eighty years now where we got all kinds of
stuff that nobody else in the world has. As long
as we can keep that going, that's fantastic because just
nobody else that can do these things, fly for thirty
(05:36):
two hours or whatever it is, non stop and drop
thirty thousand pound bombs.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Thank god we can. Yeah, yeah, Indeed, it'll be really
interesting to get reports from whomever can get them on
how extensive the damage was to the photo site, how
successful are those bombs that never been used in battle before.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Well, even bigger than the question of how devastated. Are
the devastated nuclear sites. Where's the four hundred kilograms of uranium?
Nobody knows that, and it might not have been at
the sites even if they are completely obliterated, which means
that they've still got the uranium to turn into a
weapon somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
We don't even know right right Well, Ever since October seventh,
the Israelis in particular, and it seems to the largest
scent in the United States, have changed from that Obama
esque half measures and phony diplomacy to saying, now we're
going to defeat our enemies. That's the way you limit
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violence is to achieve a defeat. Our peace plan is victory,
and we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I don't know if you saw Lindsey Graham on one
of the shows yesterday. I think it was Meet the Press. Anyway,
he came on there. He had just gotten off the
phone with net Nyaho and he was asked, what did
net Nah who want to say to America? And Lindsey
Graham said, Netna who has decided Israel is not going
to live like the way they have been anymore. Those
(07:04):
days are over, no more living hoping that the enemies
that are swearing to kill you all. Don't as they
live side, those days are over, and I believe that's
probably true.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, you say you're coming for us, Okay, we believe you.
We're coming for you.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, take go ahead and take them seriously. And we
did a little bit of that over the weekend with
because they've been chanting death to America and burning our
flags and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
The Great Satan for my whole life. This also gives
us an excellent chance to see how accurate the predictions
from and this is odd Tucker Carlson and Elizabeth Warren
turn out to be. As Tucker was predicting thirty dollars
a gallon gasoline, a collapse of the economy in World
War three, which we will lose. So we'll have to see.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Iran announced over the weekend that they will activate their
sleeper cells they've got in the United States and the
attacks will begin.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So we'll see if that's true or not.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Even if it is true, and obviously that'd be horrible,
you still can't let them get a nuclear weapon, no
matter what the response is. Pretty much, even bad stuff,
like really bad stuff, you still can't let them get
a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, this is not an option.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
We should start the show officially and then continue our
commentary from there. We would like to hear what you
think about all this text line being four one five,
two nine five KFTC. I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty
on this it is Monday. Are we at war with Iran?
Jd Van says no, the year Monday, June twenty thirty,
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year twenty twenty five Armstrong and getting we approve of
this program.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Let's begin the show officially. Then. According to f CC
rules and regulations, Operation dawn Hammer begins at mark.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
The US military carried out massive precision strikes on the
three key nuclear facilities tonight.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I can report to the world.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
That these strikes were a spectacular military Iran's Key nuclear
and Richmond facilities have been completely and totally obliterated.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And maybe a little overstatement. We'll have to see. Yeah,
we don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
The pictures look pretty good of fourd Oh, it looks
pretty uh like it's pretty devastated. E mm hmm, looks
like they went down pretty deep.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yes, those aren't rabbit holes in the mountain again, they're
mop holes. Where's the four hundred kilograms of uranium. That'd
be nice knowing.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So the particular bombers that actually dropped the bombs took
off from Missouri, flew all the way there and all
the way back. They had toilets on the plane and
people and away for each pilot.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
To sleep right refueling in the air multiple times, just
never touched down. That's amazing. That is something.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And we had other planes going other directions to throw
people off, which was a really good idea. I also
heard a lot of the questioning over the weekend. Trump
said he would wait two weeks. Then what changed? Wow,
you are like you are like so dumb? Yeah, yeah,
you're too You're too dumb for me to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You really are. That would be the proper response those
kind of questions.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I thought, like, so, if you play like hide and
seek with a little kid, are you beyond any sort
of ruse to trick them or anything like that?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Or is what how kind of world do you live in? Well,
and you know, he said up to two weeks, and
if he had said it will be precisely two weeks
from mark, it's still a thing in war.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yes, you moron again, And that is the right response,
You are too dumb to discuss things.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
You're so dumb, So I are really dumb, for real.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
It's for real. So I'm gonna have to walk away
from you. You're too stupid to talk to.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yes, I'm glad I do not slap you, dumb person.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
So we're gonna talk to some of our military analysts
to get an idea what they think of the military
aspect of it. When then you know, and we'll see
how this all plays out, and maybe stuff will happen.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Today.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
We've got all Katie's headlines on the way and lots
more news for you.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Stay here.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Let me start here as the leader of Iran has
just put out a statement from the Supreme Leader Ali
Kommene Kameyne. The Zionist enemy has made a grave mistake,
committed a great crime. It must be punished. It is
being punished. It is being punished right now. That's what
he said a few minutes ago. Okay, it is being
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punished right now. Okay, in ways we can't see or something.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Okay, And a conspicuous non naming of the Great Satan
in that statement too, as he has decided, at least
for now, to avoid provoking the tangerine tornado in the
White House, So we'll have to follow that one as well.
A lot of good stuff to come, but let's figure
out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Katie already starting with ABC News. The White House is
quote confident that the airstrikes hit enriched uranium store.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, I wonder if we have people on the ground
or Israel has people on the ground to report back
already or not?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Right, Perhaps you've seen on various newses the lines of
trucks moving away from the four to zho plant recent days,
probably smuggling out the uranium. Jack keeps mentioning, so you
know you can bash up the store, but are the
goods there?
Speaker 5 (12:28):
From NBC News, oil at one hundred dollars a barrel
US role in Iran Israel fight.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Fuels market, jitters, oh, going back to the last headline,
still wouldn't be. Still doesn't mean it's a bad idea
to blow up those nuclear facilities in my mind, even
if they snuck the uranium out.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
All right, Right, it's not as great a victory, but
it's still progress toward denying them the bomb. The only
way we get crazy high oil prices. Is if Iran
shuts off the straits of horn Moves for a limited
time and nobody would be with them on that, China
would go crazy, Russia would go crazy, They would be friendless.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
From Fox News, Russian leader claims multiple countries prepped to
provide Iran nuclear weapons following the US strikes.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Really, really, who's reporting that? That's from Fox News. I'll
have to read that whole story from USA Today.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Judge denies government attempt to keep Abrego Garcia in detention
bearing set on release.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
He's just a Maryland father.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Who was clearly smuggling people across the country.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Now human smuggler, Yeah, yeah, coyote.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
From the ACU Weather Knoppler weather radar, dangerous heat wave.
You envelop one hundred and seventy million Americans through the
end of the.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Month because of climate change? Obvious, Yeah, because of summer.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
From page six, Olympian Simone Biles deletes her ex account
following feud over transgender athletes with swimmer rightly games.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
You see this now and then with people who aren't
used to being in this crazy world of commenting on
news stories. In the back and forth, you jump into
it and you think it's gonna be fine. You can
just like make your statement and go on with your day.
But it doesn't always go that way.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Ry. Yeah, Not only are the waters not nearly as
shark free as you might imagine, but she's she is
in a funny way, like you know, your your dufus
like me. You're sitting at the couch as she does
her thing in the Olympics, saying, oh, her arm got
kind of loose there. That'll be a tenth of a point.
I have no friggin idea what I'm talking about. I
(14:57):
really probably should just shut up.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
She is that with political social issues, oh, she stumbled clearly.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I don't think she's trying hard.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Oh, that's a tenth of a point, honey there yeah. Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
From the New York Post, anti ice protests cost LA
taxpayers over thirty million dollars.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Oof. Hey, did you see that tweet that the La
County Sheriff's Department put out? Extremely controversial? They have apologized,
we'll bring you the scandal coming up. Okay, all right.
And finally from the Babylon b.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
WNBA hires male ref to tell all of the ladies
to calm down.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That's pretty good. Oh funny. Oh my, that's one of
their best ever. Look calm down, all right in the lane.
You're getting all upset, you're getting all crazy, right.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Pass to an ass kicking smile once in a while, Yeah,
smile also, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
It'd be so pretty if you'd smile in the lane.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
All right, we're all going to be mourning the men
of the arms ranging Getty program here in a.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Second, so we have one of our measure their weight
while you're at it.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
What God, We have one of our favorite military analysts,
Jeff mccauslin, coming up right when we come back, and
it'll be interesting to get his take on what happened
and what could happen, what he thinks.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Is going to happen next. So that's good stuff. Uncertain times,
no doubt had to happen, Mega.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Trump says, make them a ran great again. Oh okay,
we got a lot of news on the way. I
hope you can stay with us.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Armstrong and Getty and I.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Think they thought they were dealing with a different kind
of leader, like the kinds of leaders they've been playing
games with for the last thirty or forty years, and
they found out that's not the case. Yeah, David Ignatius
in The Washington Post, saying that it's the most one
of the most important things out of this attack is
the message it sends to Russia and China and anybody
else in the world that this is not Joe Biden,
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Kamala Harris don't followed by nothing. We do have some
breaking news before we get to our military analyst. China
has just issued a warning to Iran about not do
not close the straight of horror moves.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
So that's possibly big news. Moments after my prediction. I
love it when I'm right. Let's consult someone who's right
a heck of a lot more than I am. Doctor
Jeff mccauslin, CBS News Military consultant, Jeff, it's always great
to talk to you. How are you do well?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
But I'm not sure it right? More often than you
are well.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Is there anything you don't like about the way the
strike went down?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Well, I'm concerned about a couple of things. One, I mean,
we basically and I think I was a chairman, I
would have said in the present, but you'd understand that
as Colin Powell and said, you know the pottery barn theory,
once you break it, you own it, what happens afterwards.
It's a great question of ben what which we used
to say when I was the Pentagon, the White House
wasn't asked often enough. And whether you in favor of
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this picture strike or you're opposed this picture strike, you
got to remember two things. One is that we just
put forty thousand Americans or in the region on the bullseye.
Like it or not, they are a very likely target
for a retaliation. That's just a reality. Second thing that
conservative played frankly, is process. We're seem to me this
is an act of war. In my read of the
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Constitution says that the decisions to go to war are
made by the United States Senate and consultation with the
chiefs Executive. So once again, if you're in favor of
this or you're opposed to it, I think that process
is a very very important one. We should try try,
in fact a safeguard. And there was no report that
I saw of an imminent threat to the United States.
Ron does not present an existential threat to the United States.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Wow, this is an interesting take.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So you're against the strike in general, you don't think
the president had the power to do it, and you're
against the idea of it.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
No, not against the idea of it. Cutly, I think
you're quite right. We've been in a proxy wark ran
for many, many years, and we'd come to the point
where perhaps the diplomatic effort was really now fruitless. They
were stringing us along, So taking us down may well
have been appropriate. That being said, I think it still
should have been something that was done in consultation with
the Senate, and quite frankly, doing it that way I
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think would strengthen the position of the aftermath. As you
guys quite rightfully said, sending a message not only is
the Iranians that they really don't want to mess with us,
it's sending a world message more broadly to some of
our potential adversaries.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah. Boy, we agree certainly in principle of the whole
consultation with Congress and the constitutional right to declare war.
It just feels like that ship has sailed and not
to be seen anytime soon again. But putting that aside,
what's your assessment of the military capabilities that the US
displayed in recent days?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
This was extraordinary, without a doubt. I mean, this involved
all the services. Army, they the Air Force, this involved
the Central Command, This involved US European Command, This involved
the Space Force. I mean, this was an extraordinary operation
which also included a really significant deception operation. Imagine we
sent B two bombers westward in the direction of a blomb,
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only to have the main package so eastward across the
United States Atlantic to conduct the attack and route. One
hundred and more aircrafts involved reshuelders, reconnaissance aircraft, command of
Control ACT fighter ASH carts going in and out, and
which also struck me as amazing as either because they're
so weakened or because it was help done so well
or both. No Iranian radars came up, no air defense
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missiles were fired against our incoming aircraft, no Iranian fighters
came up. They were virtually defenseless, if you will. We
maintained maximum air supremacy over the battle area in the
conduct of the operations. So kudos to the US military
in conductinghether you're in favor of this or opposed to it,
you got to admire the tenacity and the skill of
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the US military.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, the fact that we weren't shot at at all
in an operation like that is absolutely incredible and has
to be really demoralizing for the Uranians. So the talk
of Iran you know, striking back, striking at some of
our bases, our personnel, you know, trying to close the
straighterhorn moves where a whole bunch of oil flows through
any of those things, launching sleeper cells as the Iyatola
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threatened over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Wouldn't that just be a suicide mission?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I can't what good would it do for a Ran
to reach out like that?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Well, you have to understand the dilemma that the Iranians
and the leadership overall are in right now. They know
if responding against United States could result in that kind
of retaliation, which could bring down the regime. They also
probably know that not to respond, massive demonstrations down the
streets of Tavan shanning revenge. Not to respond could likely
undermine their jitimacy in the eyes of the Iranian people
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and bring down that regime as well. So they are
having a real Hobson's choice. And don't forget you are
dealing with a leadership that's been badly damaged. They've lost
a lot of senior leaders, and you're leading with a
dealing with a messianics religious leader who's in charge at
eighty six years old, and may think that you know,
this is an opportunity to become one of the world's
greatest martyrs and go down in history as an Iranian
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martyr for the next couple of centuries.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Jeff mccauslin is on the line, Jeff, what do you
expect to see next from the Israelis?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Well, the Israelis have continued their missile attacks on Iran.
One of the responses I think the run has already made.
It seems like in the last twenty four hours they've
reintensified their strikes on Israel. So that's continuing. The Israelis have,
not their words, accomplished their objectives in their war with Iran,
and it seems to me if you look at the
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targets that they're hitting, they've now shifted from totally focusing
on the destruction of Iran's nucle to in fact bringing
down the Iranian regime. They're going after things like the
administry of the Interior. They're going after the media as
well as a number of military leaders, as well as
a number of nick Year scientists.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Doctor Jeff mccauslin, CBS News Military consultant, Thanks for the
time Jeff, we'll talk again soon, my pleasure. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
So.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I've done this many times when there's really big military
stories on. We have on Jeff mccauslin and Mike Lions,
and they often have completely different takes on a story.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I think that's going to be the case today. Yeah,
I suspect so. And you know, the whole War Powers
Act question is a good one. It's an important one,
but boy howdy, I mean I heard part of it.
I want to dig back into it. But Charles C. W. Cook,
who is brilliant of the National Review, and Annie McCarthy,
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who is brilliant of the National Review, debated that very question.
And the fact that those two esteemed gentlemen couldn't come
to an agreement, I think tells you a little bit
about where we are well.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
As was pointed out by somebody on one of the
talk shows yesterday, might have been jad Vance. We've only
declared five wharf. Congress has only declared war five times
in our nation's history.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Total.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Everything else you've ever heard about or read about was
not a declared war by Congress. So it's not like
this is the first time it's ever happened. In fact,
Jonathan Turley was just tweeting out about how he was
listening to NPR and they were going on and on
about Trump.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You know, Congress should have declared war. He doesn't have this.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Power, failing to mention the thirty other times presidents have
done this throughout our history.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
So that story aside.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I completely disagree with Jeff mccou'son first of all, on
whether or not we should have done this, And secondly,
I don't believe it all the whole Colon Powell pottery
barn you break it, you own it applies at all here,
not like a rack where we took down the entire government,
rolled in two hundred thousand troops onto the streets of Baghdad.
In that case, yes, you broke it, you own it.
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I don't think that applies at all here. We destroyed
a nuclear f Sidilly's or out, go ahead, run your country.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
You just don't get to have a nuke. Well, in
the case of our ally Israel, they also blowed up
everybody in charge of the program and various facilities, et cetera.
But yeah, it was the denial of the ability to
develop and use nuclear weapons. Period. You run your country,
you run your water, department. You do whatever you want,
just not that. See I disagree as well.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, I don't think we have the ownership or the
responsibility to now run around the way we.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Did after we rolled into Iraq. So yeah, i'll quick
quick break go ahead.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Right after this commercial, we'll tell you about the latest
poll that's out of the Washington Post is reporting on
to give you an idea how many people disagree with
Jeff mccoslin's take, for instance.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, this certainly would be a fine message. If you're
an Iranian nuclear scientist. It's incredibly important to have a
trust and or will so your loved ones and the
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Speaker 2 (26:54):
So you remember the run up to the bombing, there
was a lot of talk by mainstream media anyway about
all kinds of a war in the Republican Party and
splintering in the Republican Party and that sort of thing.
Mark Fiessen, in his opinion piece in the Washington Post today,
quoting the new poll from the Ronald Reagan Institute taken
just before the bombing, showed that ninety percent of self
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identified MAGA Republicans say that preventing a Ran from obtaining
a nuclear weapon is important to US security. Ninety percent,
including seventy four percent who's said doing so matters a
great deal.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
That's a very high percentage.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Eighty six of eight might remain as to whether what
we did was necessary when we did it, but that's
a hell of a good basis support. That's not all right,
smart theson. Eighty six percent of MAGA Republicans say the
security of Israel is important to the US. That's higher
than I would even guess. Almost ninety percent eighty one
percent want to either continue or increase US support for
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Israel's military campaign against Amas and hesbela. Two thirds support
Israel carrying out airstrikes to destroy irany nuclear facilities.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Anyway, That is.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
A lot more than I think Tucker Carlson would have
portrayed it as in his debate against Ted Cruz that
we played a lot of left right right.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
And I'm not thinking about Tucker specifically in this, but
there are a decent enough loud handful of anti Semitic
woke ritists who make a lot of noise online, and
much like the American you know, bigfoot media, it's easy
to get the impression that those loud, amplified voices represent
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far more folks than they actually do. Those numbers are
quite striking.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
The question of the day still seems to me to be,
to me, where are the four hundred kilograms of uranium
that got enriched by Iran. I'll bet there's masade on
the ground or commandos on the ground from Israel figuring that.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Out right now, and every mole they have in Iran
is on high alert to figure that out right.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
We have got mail bag on the way next, a
whole bunch more news from different stories. I hope you
can stay here. What's gonna happen today? Anything, Well, I
guess we'll find out. Is Iran going to strike back
in any way? I still don't understand how that would
benefit them in any way. I look forward to talking
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to Mike Lyons about that later. I haven't heard a
good explanation as to how that would help Iran in
any way that they wouldn't just get absolutely torched if
they do something bad.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
If I'm the Ayatola, I'm wondering what the hell to
do and who the hell to ask? What the hell
to do? He's got to figure out a Send General
Jones over here. He's dead, sir, oh, no, no, I
about Smith. Sent Smith he's a but no, he's dead too,
So he's got a bit of a dilemma. Eighty six
year old messianic, religious lunatic. Oh boy, here's your freedom
(29:57):
loving quote of the day from raw oh May, who
was reading very influential in the world of existential psychology,
harsh critic of modern psychotherapy. In fact, it was so
interesting I had to force myself to stop reading about it.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Anyway, I don't know this name. I'll have to look
at this guy up or is a woman?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
A woman? Indeed a man rather Rallo?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Sorry, I he identified as his man. Okay, you know
the whole mustache. You know, masculine framesticles, testicles. Political freedom
is to be cherished, indeed, But there is no political
freedom that is not indusolubly bound. Note to self, use
the term indissolubly more about to the inner personal freedom
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of the individuals who make up that nation. No liberty
of a nation of conformists, no free nation made up
of robots. Nailback. What if you'd like to write us
an induce solubly written email, Do it to mail bag
at Armstrong in getty dot com. Tom SoCal writes, So,
(31:06):
which approach to Iran? Do you prefer Operation Midnight Hammer
or Operation Don't? But now comes to hard part. You
need to be vigilant because they will try to attack
us to save face, and they are down to limited options.
Some of those options include operatives that undoubtedly crossed our
borders in the last four years. We need to be
alert and watch out for each other. If you see something,
say something, Will they attack us?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I don't know that they won't, but I don't understand
what they get if they did.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Just saving face, just saving a shred of legitimacy. Look,
we punched back, but good the Great Satan is reeling
from our brave countermatterers. That's what they'll do. Moving along,
Andy and Oakland says Taco. That's the Trump always chickens out,
the taco becomes burrito bomb. You ridiculous rascals into the
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other world. Oh boy, they're working too hard to come
up with an acronym. Can we limit the First Amendment
to stop everybody from doing that? Let's see, Adam writes, Hey, y'all,
full disclosure. You will have far more intelligent and formed, ineloquent,
and probably more handsome listeners writing about this. They just
wanted to point out that everybody who's been in an
(32:15):
uproar about Trump's handling of Putin and Ukraine are now
against his decision to use the B two's. They're truly
showing their Trump derangement syndrome. Trump just delivered a historically
challenged changing blow to Russia's ally that if it was
done during any other recent time would probably not have
been as promising. I think a lot of unsuspecting people
are golf clapping for Trump right now. Thank you for
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your attention to this matter. Adam.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
By the way, to the email bag, we did get
this text. Clinton bombed Russia, Iraq and Kosovo and put
US soldiers on the ground in eighty to fight there
with no acts of Congress. Yeah, there are dozens of
examples you can use from presidents of doing that. That
doesn't mean I like the idea that every president sends
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the military around the world and bombs things they want
to without asking Congress.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
But it's not like Trump invented it. Well, if we
just wanted to go from the year two thousand on,
we could come up with more examples than is necessary.
Let's see Tim who hates US rights yay ww three
a disgusting escalation guaranteed to give J and J little
chubbies in their dockers. Wow, that's unnecessarily a graphic. And
I'm not wearing doctors sir as. They bloviate with that
(33:27):
special studio courage they're known for. Yeah, okay, your type.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
So we have less of a chance of World War
three if Iran has a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Explain that to me. Yeah, yeah, I just well, and
the false arguments and bad faith arguments in a very
short email. You know what. I respect your ability to
cram so many bad faith arguments into the sentence and
a half a chubby in my doctors. Let's see Byron rights.
And there have invariations on this attempt humor. Trump's newest
(34:01):
golf project is coming together. He just established the first
three holes of his new eighteen hole golf cour There
you go. That would be the nuclear facility as of
Iran jack holes in the ground. I was tracking instead
of yes, okay. It wasn't that I didn't laugh because
I didn't understand it. I understood it. Oh, I see,
let's see this. This is a complete change topic. Frequent
(34:23):
correspondent Pawlow. Can there be morality without faith? I'm a
big yes on this one. Let's just say morality is
a set of beliefs about how we behave that leads
to the best possible outcome for humanity, like a constitutional
framework governing human behavior. And faith is a mode of
belief that makes the belief immutable. Faith can support morality
and promote adherence to it. It can also promote the
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dogma of Iranian theocrats. He's absolutely true, and I'll cut
off his email there. He goes on to make the
point in other ways. But you know what, when Tokville,
for instance, was talking about there can be no liberty
without more morality without faith, he was talking about Christian faith.
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Maybe deists google it, but he was just talking Christian
faith back in the day. That's what those people meant.
They didn't consider Islamic fundamentalists in their description of quote
unquote faith. Maybe that was a blind spot, but it
has a different meaning when you consider it like that.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I have many thoughts on this. Could you put that
in some sort of special pile. Maybe we can talk
about it an hour four or something.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I will put a pin in it.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
As they say, I wasn't gonna say that very annoying
because we might be tired of talking about bombing Iran
by our four and I'd be interested to get into
the whole. Where does morality come from conversation specifically about
the United States.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Now, I'm off to adjust my doctors, not really Armstrong
and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, Armstrong and get
Katie and He Armstrong and Eddy. We are on a
(00:21):
more putting live from Studio.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Ceor a dimly lit room deeds within the bowels of
the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound, and today we are
under the tutelage of our general.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Manager, Midnight Hammer. Is that the name of this operation
sounds like the title of a heavy metal album by
unnecessarily over the top Norwegian metal band. But guess that
was the name of the the bombing runs against Auran
operation Midnight Hammer.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Maybe some guy's Twitter profile who thinks that's gonna play well,
but it's not.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh yeah, it has that field, but these are serious times.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Enough birth when he want to date the Midnight Hamper.
Oh yeah, So I thought I had a handle on
where everything was going untill I saw Trump's late tweet
Sunday with Mega in it. Mega make I ran great again? Uh?
(01:19):
Suggesting regime change is a good idea after every single
one of the people that worked for him went on
every single talk show on Sunday and said this is
absolutely not about regime change. He did a classic Trump
move where he comes out with a tweet right after
they say that and said, you know, regime change.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And people say it like it's a dirty word, but
you know it might be a good idea. Make him
make a ran great again.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Thanks for sending me out there on Meet the Press
to say this is absolutely not regime change.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Really good time. Had nothing better to do on my Sunday,
so that was great. Yeah, it is a very very
Trumpian thing, not only you know, trotting his aides out
there and then undermining them, but ignoring the conventions of this,
that or the other, including diplomacy. I mean, any sane
human being would say yeah. I mean, there'd be a
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hell of a lot of uncertainty and it could go wrong,
but yeah, I mean in general, regime change would be great.
I mean everybody thinks that. But you can't say that
for a variety of reasons, some of which are pretty legitimate.
But Trump doesn't care. I tell you.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I was sure annoyed by the coverage of everything pretty
much except for Fox, but even someone Fox, all the
coverage was so annoying. It was all presented with the
this was a risky thing to do and probably not
a good idea and mostly downside as opposed to there
was no choice. It went awesome and uh hooray for us. No,
(02:40):
and now what, there's nothing wrong with this? So now
you know, what are the things they could do back?
That's a reasonable conversation. But after the tone of a boy,
another crazy thing that we've done.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I just I've got to see an end pull in
front of me. Let me dig that up real quick.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Overwhelming support for this, I mean not even close.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Is that right? Yeah? Huh, I'll find that you.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
But it's like any here, it is all adults. Well,
just the idea of the United States needs to do
something to eliminate to stop the Iran's nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Now it's a.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Broadish question, but eighty percent of adults said we need
to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Eighty percent right.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
That includes eighty percent Democrats, seventy nine percent of Independence
and eighty three percent of the Republicans sow.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That is remarkably uniform across the aisle line.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, so why presented deze boy? I don't know if
this is a good idea. What was your plan? That's
what I would have said on every one of those
talk shows. If I was representing the White House, what
would you have done? Let them get a nuclear weapon?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I don't think anybody's in favor of recklessness or idiotic
you know, moves without you know, looking down the road
at what might happen. But it does frequently have the
feel of, you know, the patient has serious cancer and
they just rub their chin and say radiation. It can
have some serious side effects, and chemotherapy makes people very,
(04:09):
very sick, and surgery is cutting someone open. Yeah, and
then the patient is dead. Well, the patient is in
this or rather twisted metaphor, this is Iran having a
newke and being able to threaten the civilized world with
there is crazy is longest religious, fundamental wack of doodlry
(04:30):
in a way that the whole world he's united in
hating that idea. But most of the world gets to
watch us prosecute, well in Israel, God bless them, Israel
and the United States prosecute the what's necessary to prevent
at but they get to sit in their capitals and
the Euros of just speaking of being annoyed annoyed the
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hell out of me. Over the last several years, the
Euros get to sit there and say, well, we're in
favor of de escalation both sides. Is good. We need
a limit of the violence. Blah blah blah. Okay, thanks
for your opinion. Congratulations on your empire two hundred years ago.
It was great.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
So how many of these bunker bumpetbusters fourteen I think that.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
We dropped total, that's number I heard. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So we've got the bombs nobody else has got in
the planes to fly them that nobody else has got.
That's one of the things I was thinking over the weekend.
I like this period of time that has existed for
about eighty years now where we got all kinds of
stuff that nobody else in the world has. As long
as we can keep that going, that's fantastic because just
nobody else that can do these things, fly for thirty
(05:36):
two hours or whatever it is, non stop and drop
thirty thousand pound bombs.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Thank god we can. Yeah, yeah, Indeed, it'll be really
interesting to get reports from whomever can get them on
how extensive the damage was to the photo site, how
successful are those bombs that never been used in battle before.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Well, even bigger than the question of how devastated. Are
the devastated nuclear sites. Where's the four hundred kilograms of uranium?
Nobody knows that, and it might not have been at
the sites even if they are completely obliterated, which means
that they've still got the uranium to turn into a
weapon somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
We don't even know right right Well, Ever since October seventh,
the Israelis in particular, and it seems to the largest
scent in the United States, have changed from that Obama
esque half measures and phony diplomacy to saying, now we're
going to defeat our enemies. That's the way you limit
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violence is to achieve a defeat. Our peace plan is victory,
and we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I don't know if you saw Lindsey Graham on one
of the shows yesterday. I think it was Meet the Press. Anyway,
he came on there. He had just gotten off the
phone with net Nyaho and he was asked, what did
net Nah who want to say to America? And Lindsey
Graham said, Netna who has decided Israel is not going
to live like the way they have been anymore. Those
(07:04):
days are over, no more living hoping that the enemies
that are swearing to kill you all. Don't as they
live side, those days are over, and I believe that's
probably true.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, you say you're coming for us, Okay, we believe you.
We're coming for you.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, take go ahead and take them seriously. And we
did a little bit of that over the weekend with
because they've been chanting death to America and burning our
flags and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
The Great Satan for my whole life. This also gives
us an excellent chance to see how accurate the predictions
from and this is odd Tucker Carlson and Elizabeth Warren
turn out to be. As Tucker was predicting thirty dollars
a gallon gasoline, a collapse of the economy in World
War three, which we will lose. So we'll have to see.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Iran announced over the weekend that they will activate their
sleeper cells they've got in the United States and the
attacks will begin.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So we'll see if that's true or not.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Even if it is true, and obviously that'd be horrible,
you still can't let them get a nuclear weapon, no
matter what the response is. Pretty much, even bad stuff,
like really bad stuff, you still can't let them get
a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, this is not an option.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
We should start the show officially and then continue our
commentary from there. We would like to hear what you
think about all this text line being four one five,
two nine five KFTC. I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty
on this it is Monday. Are we at war with Iran?
Jd Van says no, the year Monday, June twenty thirty,
(08:35):
year twenty twenty five Armstrong and getting we approve of
this program.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Let's begin the show officially. Then. According to f CC
rules and regulations, Operation dawn Hammer begins at mark.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
The US military carried out massive precision strikes on the
three key nuclear facilities tonight.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I can report to the world.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
That these strikes were a spectacular military Iran's Key nuclear
and Richmond facilities have been completely and totally obliterated.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And maybe a little overstatement. We'll have to see. Yeah,
we don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
The pictures look pretty good of fourd Oh, it looks
pretty uh like it's pretty devastated. E mm hmm, looks
like they went down pretty deep.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yes, those aren't rabbit holes in the mountain again, they're
mop holes. Where's the four hundred kilograms of uranium. That'd
be nice knowing.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So the particular bombers that actually dropped the bombs took
off from Missouri, flew all the way there and all
the way back. They had toilets on the plane and
people and away for each pilot.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
To sleep right refueling in the air multiple times, just
never touched down. That's amazing. That is something.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And we had other planes going other directions to throw
people off, which was a really good idea. I also
heard a lot of the questioning over the weekend. Trump
said he would wait two weeks. Then what changed? Wow,
you are like you are like so dumb? Yeah, yeah,
you're too You're too dumb for me to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You really are. That would be the proper response those
kind of questions.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I thought, like, so, if you play like hide and
seek with a little kid, are you beyond any sort
of ruse to trick them or anything like that?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Or is what how kind of world do you live in? Well,
and you know, he said up to two weeks, and
if he had said it will be precisely two weeks
from mark, it's still a thing in war.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yes, you moron again, And that is the right response,
You are too dumb to discuss things.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
You're so dumb, So I are really dumb, for real.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
It's for real. So I'm gonna have to walk away
from you. You're too stupid to talk to.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yes, I'm glad I do not slap you, dumb person.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
So we're gonna talk to some of our military analysts
to get an idea what they think of the military
aspect of it. When then you know, and we'll see
how this all plays out, and maybe stuff will happen.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Today.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
We've got all Katie's headlines on the way and lots
more news for you.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Stay here.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Let me start here as the leader of Iran has
just put out a statement from the Supreme Leader Ali
Kommene Kameyne. The Zionist enemy has made a grave mistake,
committed a great crime. It must be punished. It is
being punished. It is being punished right now. That's what
he said a few minutes ago. Okay, it is being
(11:32):
punished right now. Okay, in ways we can't see or something.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Okay, And a conspicuous non naming of the Great Satan
in that statement too, as he has decided, at least
for now, to avoid provoking the tangerine tornado in the
White House, So we'll have to follow that one as well.
A lot of good stuff to come, but let's figure
out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Katie already starting with ABC News. The White House is
quote confident that the airstrikes hit enriched uranium store.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, I wonder if we have people on the ground
or Israel has people on the ground to report back
already or not?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Right, Perhaps you've seen on various newses the lines of
trucks moving away from the four to zho plant recent days,
probably smuggling out the uranium. Jack keeps mentioning, so you
know you can bash up the store, but are the
goods there?
Speaker 5 (12:28):
From NBC News, oil at one hundred dollars a barrel
US role in Iran Israel fight.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Fuels market, jitters, oh, going back to the last headline,
still wouldn't be. Still doesn't mean it's a bad idea
to blow up those nuclear facilities in my mind, even
if they snuck the uranium out.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
All right, Right, it's not as great a victory, but
it's still progress toward denying them the bomb. The only
way we get crazy high oil prices. Is if Iran
shuts off the straits of horn Moves for a limited
time and nobody would be with them on that, China
would go crazy, Russia would go crazy, They would be friendless.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
From Fox News, Russian leader claims multiple countries prepped to
provide Iran nuclear weapons following the US strikes.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Really, really, who's reporting that? That's from Fox News. I'll
have to read that whole story from USA Today.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Judge denies government attempt to keep Abrego Garcia in detention
bearing set on release.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
He's just a Maryland father.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Who was clearly smuggling people across the country.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Now human smuggler, Yeah, yeah, coyote.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
From the ACU Weather Knoppler weather radar, dangerous heat wave.
You envelop one hundred and seventy million Americans through the
end of the.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Month because of climate change? Obvious, Yeah, because of summer.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
From page six, Olympian Simone Biles deletes her ex account
following feud over transgender athletes with swimmer rightly games.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
You see this now and then with people who aren't
used to being in this crazy world of commenting on
news stories. In the back and forth, you jump into
it and you think it's gonna be fine. You can
just like make your statement and go on with your day.
But it doesn't always go that way.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Ry. Yeah, Not only are the waters not nearly as
shark free as you might imagine, but she's she is
in a funny way, like you know, your your dufus
like me. You're sitting at the couch as she does
her thing in the Olympics, saying, oh, her arm got
kind of loose there. That'll be a tenth of a point.
I have no friggin idea what I'm talking about. I
(14:57):
really probably should just shut up.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
She is that with political social issues, oh, she stumbled clearly.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I don't think she's trying hard.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Oh, that's a tenth of a point, honey there yeah. Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
From the New York Post, anti ice protests cost LA
taxpayers over thirty million dollars.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Oof. Hey, did you see that tweet that the La
County Sheriff's Department put out? Extremely controversial? They have apologized,
we'll bring you the scandal coming up. Okay, all right.
And finally from the Babylon b.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
WNBA hires male ref to tell all of the ladies
to calm down.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That's pretty good. Oh funny. Oh my, that's one of
their best ever. Look calm down, all right in the lane.
You're getting all upset, you're getting all crazy, right.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Pass to an ass kicking smile once in a while, Yeah,
smile also, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
It'd be so pretty if you'd smile in the lane.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
All right, we're all going to be mourning the men
of the arms ranging Getty program here in a.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Second, so we have one of our measure their weight
while you're at it.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
What God, We have one of our favorite military analysts,
Jeff mccauslin, coming up right when we come back, and
it'll be interesting to get his take on what happened
and what could happen, what he thinks.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Is going to happen next. So that's good stuff. Uncertain times,
no doubt had to happen, Mega.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Trump says, make them a ran great again. Oh okay,
we got a lot of news on the way. I
hope you can stay with us.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Armstrong and Getty and I.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Think they thought they were dealing with a different kind
of leader, like the kinds of leaders they've been playing
games with for the last thirty or forty years, and
they found out that's not the case. Yeah, David Ignatius
in The Washington Post, saying that it's the most one
of the most important things out of this attack is
the message it sends to Russia and China and anybody
else in the world that this is not Joe Biden,
(17:09):
Kamala Harris don't followed by nothing. We do have some
breaking news before we get to our military analyst. China
has just issued a warning to Iran about not do
not close the straight of horror moves.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
So that's possibly big news. Moments after my prediction. I
love it when I'm right. Let's consult someone who's right
a heck of a lot more than I am. Doctor
Jeff mccauslin, CBS News Military consultant, Jeff, it's always great
to talk to you. How are you do well?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
But I'm not sure it right? More often than you
are well.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Is there anything you don't like about the way the
strike went down?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Well, I'm concerned about a couple of things. One, I mean,
we basically and I think I was a chairman, I
would have said in the present, but you'd understand that
as Colin Powell and said, you know the pottery barn theory,
once you break it, you own it, what happens afterwards.
It's a great question of ben what which we used
to say when I was the Pentagon, the White House
wasn't asked often enough. And whether you in favor of
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this picture strike or you're opposed this picture strike, you
got to remember two things. One is that we just
put forty thousand Americans or in the region on the bullseye.
Like it or not, they are a very likely target
for a retaliation. That's just a reality. Second thing that
conservative played frankly, is process. We're seem to me this
is an act of war. In my read of the
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Constitution says that the decisions to go to war are
made by the United States Senate and consultation with the
chiefs Executive. So once again, if you're in favor of
this or you're opposed to it, I think that process
is a very very important one. We should try try,
in fact a safeguard. And there was no report that
I saw of an imminent threat to the United States.
Ron does not present an existential threat to the United States.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Wow, this is an interesting take.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So you're against the strike in general, you don't think
the president had the power to do it, and you're
against the idea of it.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
No, not against the idea of it. Cutly, I think
you're quite right. We've been in a proxy wark ran
for many, many years, and we'd come to the point
where perhaps the diplomatic effort was really now fruitless. They
were stringing us along, So taking us down may well
have been appropriate. That being said, I think it still
should have been something that was done in consultation with
the Senate, and quite frankly, doing it that way I
(19:23):
think would strengthen the position of the aftermath. As you
guys quite rightfully said, sending a message not only is
the Iranians that they really don't want to mess with us,
it's sending a world message more broadly to some of
our potential adversaries.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah. Boy, we agree certainly in principle of the whole
consultation with Congress and the constitutional right to declare war.
It just feels like that ship has sailed and not
to be seen anytime soon again. But putting that aside,
what's your assessment of the military capabilities that the US
displayed in recent days?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
This was extraordinary, without a doubt. I mean, this involved
all the services. Army, they the Air Force, this involved
the Central Command, This involved US European Command, This involved
the Space Force. I mean, this was an extraordinary operation
which also included a really significant deception operation. Imagine we
sent B two bombers westward in the direction of a blomb,
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only to have the main package so eastward across the
United States Atlantic to conduct the attack and route. One
hundred and more aircrafts involved reshuelders, reconnaissance aircraft, command of
Control ACT fighter ASH carts going in and out, and
which also struck me as amazing as either because they're
so weakened or because it was help done so well
or both. No Iranian radars came up, no air defense
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missiles were fired against our incoming aircraft, no Iranian fighters
came up. They were virtually defenseless, if you will. We
maintained maximum air supremacy over the battle area in the
conduct of the operations. So kudos to the US military
in conductinghether you're in favor of this or opposed to it,
you got to admire the tenacity and the skill of
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the US military.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, the fact that we weren't shot at at all
in an operation like that is absolutely incredible and has
to be really demoralizing for the Uranians. So the talk
of Iran you know, striking back, striking at some of
our bases, our personnel, you know, trying to close the
straighterhorn moves where a whole bunch of oil flows through
any of those things, launching sleeper cells as the Iyatola
(21:30):
threatened over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Wouldn't that just be a suicide mission?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I can't what good would it do for a Ran
to reach out like that?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Well, you have to understand the dilemma that the Iranians
and the leadership overall are in right now. They know
if responding against United States could result in that kind
of retaliation, which could bring down the regime. They also
probably know that not to respond, massive demonstrations down the
streets of Tavan shanning revenge. Not to respond could likely
undermine their jitimacy in the eyes of the Iranian people
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and bring down that regime as well. So they are
having a real Hobson's choice. And don't forget you are
dealing with a leadership that's been badly damaged. They've lost
a lot of senior leaders, and you're leading with a
dealing with a messianics religious leader who's in charge at
eighty six years old, and may think that you know,
this is an opportunity to become one of the world's
greatest martyrs and go down in history as an Iranian
(22:24):
martyr for the next couple of centuries.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Jeff mccauslin is on the line, Jeff, what do you
expect to see next from the Israelis?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Well, the Israelis have continued their missile attacks on Iran.
One of the responses I think the run has already made.
It seems like in the last twenty four hours they've
reintensified their strikes on Israel. So that's continuing. The Israelis have,
not their words, accomplished their objectives in their war with Iran,
and it seems to me if you look at the
(22:54):
targets that they're hitting, they've now shifted from totally focusing
on the destruction of Iran's nucle to in fact bringing
down the Iranian regime. They're going after things like the
administry of the Interior. They're going after the media as
well as a number of military leaders, as well as
a number of nick Year scientists.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Doctor Jeff mccauslin, CBS News Military consultant, Thanks for the
time Jeff, we'll talk again soon, my pleasure. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
So.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I've done this many times when there's really big military
stories on. We have on Jeff mccauslin and Mike Lions,
and they often have completely different takes on a story.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I think that's going to be the case today. Yeah,
I suspect so. And you know, the whole War Powers
Act question is a good one. It's an important one,
but boy howdy, I mean I heard part of it.
I want to dig back into it. But Charles C. W. Cook,
who is brilliant of the National Review, and Annie McCarthy,
(23:48):
who is brilliant of the National Review, debated that very question.
And the fact that those two esteemed gentlemen couldn't come
to an agreement, I think tells you a little bit
about where we are well.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
As was pointed out by somebody on one of the
talk shows yesterday, might have been jad Vance. We've only
declared five wharf. Congress has only declared war five times
in our nation's history.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Total.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Everything else you've ever heard about or read about was
not a declared war by Congress. So it's not like
this is the first time it's ever happened. In fact,
Jonathan Turley was just tweeting out about how he was
listening to NPR and they were going on and on
about Trump.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You know, Congress should have declared war. He doesn't have this.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Power, failing to mention the thirty other times presidents have
done this throughout our history.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
So that story aside.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I completely disagree with Jeff mccou'son first of all, on
whether or not we should have done this, And secondly,
I don't believe it all the whole Colon Powell pottery
barn you break it, you own it applies at all here,
not like a rack where we took down the entire government,
rolled in two hundred thousand troops onto the streets of Baghdad.
In that case, yes, you broke it, you own it.
(24:56):
I don't think that applies at all here. We destroyed
a nuclear f Sidilly's or out, go ahead, run your country.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
You just don't get to have a nuke. Well, in
the case of our ally Israel, they also blowed up
everybody in charge of the program and various facilities, et cetera.
But yeah, it was the denial of the ability to
develop and use nuclear weapons. Period. You run your country,
you run your water, department. You do whatever you want,
just not that. See I disagree as well.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, I don't think we have the ownership or the
responsibility to now run around the way we.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Did after we rolled into Iraq. So yeah, i'll quick
quick break go ahead.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Right after this commercial, we'll tell you about the latest
poll that's out of the Washington Post is reporting on
to give you an idea how many people disagree with
Jeff mccoslin's take, for instance.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
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Speaker 2 (26:54):
So you remember the run up to the bombing, there
was a lot of talk by mainstream media anyway about
all kinds of a war in the Republican Party and
splintering in the Republican Party and that sort of thing.
Mark Fiessen, in his opinion piece in the Washington Post today,
quoting the new poll from the Ronald Reagan Institute taken
just before the bombing, showed that ninety percent of self
(27:17):
identified MAGA Republicans say that preventing a Ran from obtaining
a nuclear weapon is important to US security. Ninety percent,
including seventy four percent who's said doing so matters a
great deal.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
That's a very high percentage.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Eighty six of eight might remain as to whether what
we did was necessary when we did it, but that's
a hell of a good basis support. That's not all right,
smart theson. Eighty six percent of MAGA Republicans say the
security of Israel is important to the US. That's higher
than I would even guess. Almost ninety percent eighty one
percent want to either continue or increase US support for
(27:55):
Israel's military campaign against Amas and hesbela. Two thirds support
Israel carrying out airstrikes to destroy irany nuclear facilities.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Anyway, That is.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
A lot more than I think Tucker Carlson would have
portrayed it as in his debate against Ted Cruz that
we played a lot of left right right.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
And I'm not thinking about Tucker specifically in this, but
there are a decent enough loud handful of anti Semitic
woke ritists who make a lot of noise online, and
much like the American you know, bigfoot media, it's easy
to get the impression that those loud, amplified voices represent
(28:39):
far more folks than they actually do. Those numbers are
quite striking.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
The question of the day still seems to me to be,
to me, where are the four hundred kilograms of uranium
that got enriched by Iran. I'll bet there's masade on
the ground or commandos on the ground from Israel figuring that.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Out right now, and every mole they have in Iran
is on high alert to figure that out right.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
We have got mail bag on the way next, a
whole bunch more news from different stories. I hope you
can stay here. What's gonna happen today? Anything, Well, I
guess we'll find out. Is Iran going to strike back
in any way? I still don't understand how that would
benefit them in any way. I look forward to talking
(29:26):
to Mike Lyons about that later. I haven't heard a
good explanation as to how that would help Iran in
any way that they wouldn't just get absolutely torched if
they do something bad.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
If I'm the Ayatola, I'm wondering what the hell to
do and who the hell to ask? What the hell
to do? He's got to figure out a Send General
Jones over here. He's dead, sir, oh, no, no, I
about Smith. Sent Smith he's a but no, he's dead too,
So he's got a bit of a dilemma. Eighty six
year old messianic, religious lunatic. Oh boy, here's your freedom
(29:57):
loving quote of the day from raw oh May, who
was reading very influential in the world of existential psychology,
harsh critic of modern psychotherapy. In fact, it was so
interesting I had to force myself to stop reading about it.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Anyway, I don't know this name. I'll have to look
at this guy up or is a woman?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
A woman? Indeed a man rather Rallo?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Sorry, I he identified as his man. Okay, you know
the whole mustache. You know, masculine framesticles, testicles. Political freedom
is to be cherished, indeed, But there is no political
freedom that is not indusolubly bound. Note to self, use
the term indissolubly more about to the inner personal freedom
(30:42):
of the individuals who make up that nation. No liberty
of a nation of conformists, no free nation made up
of robots. Nailback. What if you'd like to write us
an induce solubly written email, Do it to mail bag
at Armstrong in getty dot com. Tom SoCal writes, So,
(31:06):
which approach to Iran? Do you prefer Operation Midnight Hammer
or Operation Don't? But now comes to hard part. You
need to be vigilant because they will try to attack
us to save face, and they are down to limited options.
Some of those options include operatives that undoubtedly crossed our
borders in the last four years. We need to be
alert and watch out for each other. If you see something,
say something, Will they attack us?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I don't know that they won't, but I don't understand
what they get if they did.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Just saving face, just saving a shred of legitimacy. Look,
we punched back, but good the Great Satan is reeling
from our brave countermatterers. That's what they'll do. Moving along,
Andy and Oakland says Taco. That's the Trump always chickens out,
the taco becomes burrito bomb. You ridiculous rascals into the
(31:54):
other world. Oh boy, they're working too hard to come
up with an acronym. Can we limit the First Amendment
to stop everybody from doing that? Let's see, Adam writes, Hey, y'all,
full disclosure. You will have far more intelligent and formed, ineloquent,
and probably more handsome listeners writing about this. They just
wanted to point out that everybody who's been in an
(32:15):
uproar about Trump's handling of Putin and Ukraine are now
against his decision to use the B two's. They're truly
showing their Trump derangement syndrome. Trump just delivered a historically
challenged changing blow to Russia's ally that if it was
done during any other recent time would probably not have
been as promising. I think a lot of unsuspecting people
are golf clapping for Trump right now. Thank you for
(32:39):
your attention to this matter. Adam.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
By the way, to the email bag, we did get
this text. Clinton bombed Russia, Iraq and Kosovo and put
US soldiers on the ground in eighty to fight there
with no acts of Congress. Yeah, there are dozens of
examples you can use from presidents of doing that. That
doesn't mean I like the idea that every president sends
(33:01):
the military around the world and bombs things they want
to without asking Congress.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
But it's not like Trump invented it. Well, if we
just wanted to go from the year two thousand on,
we could come up with more examples than is necessary.
Let's see Tim who hates US rights yay ww three
a disgusting escalation guaranteed to give J and J little
chubbies in their dockers. Wow, that's unnecessarily a graphic. And
I'm not wearing doctors sir as. They bloviate with that
(33:27):
special studio courage they're known for. Yeah, okay, your type.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
So we have less of a chance of World War
three if Iran has a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Explain that to me. Yeah, yeah, I just well, and
the false arguments and bad faith arguments in a very
short email. You know what. I respect your ability to
cram so many bad faith arguments into the sentence and
a half a chubby in my doctors. Let's see Byron rights.
And there have invariations on this attempt humor. Trump's newest
(34:01):
golf project is coming together. He just established the first
three holes of his new eighteen hole golf cour There
you go. That would be the nuclear facility as of
Iran jack holes in the ground. I was tracking instead
of yes, okay. It wasn't that I didn't laugh because
I didn't understand it. I understood it. Oh, I see,
let's see this. This is a complete change topic. Frequent
(34:23):
correspondent Pawlow. Can there be morality without faith? I'm a
big yes on this one. Let's just say morality is
a set of beliefs about how we behave that leads
to the best possible outcome for humanity, like a constitutional
framework governing human behavior. And faith is a mode of
belief that makes the belief immutable. Faith can support morality
and promote adherence to it. It can also promote the
(34:44):
dogma of Iranian theocrats. He's absolutely true, and I'll cut
off his email there. He goes on to make the
point in other ways. But you know what, when Tokville,
for instance, was talking about there can be no liberty
without more morality without faith, he was talking about Christian faith.
(35:04):
Maybe deists google it, but he was just talking Christian
faith back in the day. That's what those people meant.
They didn't consider Islamic fundamentalists in their description of quote
unquote faith. Maybe that was a blind spot, but it
has a different meaning when you consider it like that.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I have many thoughts on this. Could you put that
in some sort of special pile. Maybe we can talk
about it an hour four or something.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I will put a pin in it.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
As they say, I wasn't gonna say that very annoying
because we might be tired of talking about bombing Iran
by our four and I'd be interested to get into
the whole. Where does morality come from conversation specifically about
the United States.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Now, I'm off to adjust my doctors, not really Armstrong
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