July 3, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the July 3.2025 A&G Replay contains:
- Rapper Shot / Re-Declaration of Independence
- Coffee Lawsuit and Meh to Wow
- Apps That Always Listen
- New Gang Network 764
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
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Speaker 5 (00:37):
Sir, the choices we got in lay, those were your choices. Shadow,
somebody got shot?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Oh how good? Hold on the dirty dead? What do
I want with my.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Da do shaty?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
What the hell is this?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Everybody that is?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
That is rapper too low? Who is a pairing as
a kiss? A guest on a podcast? Who the gun
went off in his pocket? Apparently somehow?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Okay? First of all, guests on a podcast. To have
a podcast, all you need to do is own a
phone or a computer. So is this a podcast with
any I mean anyway? So he's sitting around talking to
a guy and his gun goes off. What's the most
interesting to me is these people live such a lifestyle.
The reaction is, Hey, whose gun went off? Somebody's gone went?
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Who shots?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Ibody?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Who?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Somebody's gun went off?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Whereas most of the company I keep, if there were
a gun shot in the room, we would all be
quite flabbergasted.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Who shot? Who?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Oh my gosh, is that a gun in your pocket?
Or you're just happy to be on my podcast. Hello,
slay that again, Michael.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Just the beginning of it.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
And choices we got in life. Those were your choices.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
All right.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Getting back to our topic, motivating ourselves for the new year,
rapper too low If you need to stick to your
diet through January.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Oh that's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
So there are a couple of things I wanted to
do yesterday as kind of a kicking off the ear thing.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
But we have so much. Let's to get to it.
We can't get to all of it. But I love this.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I'm gonna hit you with part of it and then
we'll move on. We got a bunch of stuff. But
this is written by a guy named Jeff Goldstein, who
is a writer I really like, and he has this
redeclaration of independence and you'll know what he's driving at immediately.
Be it so understood. This is my vow for the
new year, too. I refuse to unpack white violence. I
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reject the idea that my existence perpetuates white power structures.
I will not, and in fact, cannot, examine my ipplicit
biases an individual. I refuse to grant determined interpretive communities
authority over my being. My meaning is mine is what
makes me me. I'm not taking any journey to discover
the impact of my privilege on black and brown people's
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I will not become anti racist or anti fascist to
satisfy your demands. I reject cultural Marxism. I am an individual.
I'm not defined by my color, my lrige, and my sex.
I'm jeff good to meet you. I will not respect
your pronouns or celebrate your queerness. I am hostile to
your sexualization of children. I reject your triggers and your
desire to control my speech. I know who and what
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you are. You are my presumptive master, or else the
useful idiot who empowers him. But I will grant you
and your ideology no power over me. There's more you
want to hear a little more sure. I reject equity
because it is collectivism disguised as virtue. I reject inclusivity
because it is inorganic superficial and contrived. I reject mandated diversity.
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I will not surrender to the crayon box mafia, nor
do the gender changelings who pretend I am construct answerable
to their whims.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Cultural appropriation is merely culture.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It expands to include, and it makes up the very
fabric of a pluralistic society. There's no such thing as
digital blackface. My whiteness is not violent, my sex is
not oppressive. My religion doesn't concern you, and my children
are not yours. STA mold, Your beliefs will not be
imposed on me. The state will not parent my sons.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Theory. Yes, digital blackface, I'd forgotten that term. Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Again if you've lost a thread, this is a red
declaration of independence.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Queer theory is critical. Race theory is critical.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Consciousness is the Marxist rejection of the individual as individual.
I have some stats on how many states queer theory
is being taught in schools to little children as truth
and is as shocking. Well, one more time. Queer theory
is critical. Race theory is critical. Consciousness is the Marxist
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rejection of the individual as individual. Cultural Marxism is determined
to raise norms so chaos tear families asunder and reduce
being to collective conformity. I reject its premises as fully
as I reject its adherents. I will not comply. I
will not mouth your slogans. I will not denounce on command.
I am not your tool, and you are not my minder.
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And he has a little more about my speech is
my own. I reject each of your excuses to silence me.
I don't ask for your protections. I can filter information
without your interference, Mark Zuckerberg, and I despise your presumption
to protect me from myself. I am your sworn enemy,
and you are mine. I will not perform for you.
I will not read from your script or dance in
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your follies. Oh my brother, we will post this at
armstrong egedi dot com.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It is brilliant, and he goes on. But that's the main.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Party, and it fits in with that Wall Street Journal
article I was reading from last hour, The progressive moment
in global politics is over. That moment existed mostly online
and with the you know, high level university set. It
was a much smaller group than we all thought or feared,
thank god, but it was it was misleading because it
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was so prevalent in you know, TV, newspapers and Twitter
in places like that, but it was not near as
big as we all thought. And the best thing that
could happen to people that are on the right side
of that, and you could be a lifelong Democrat and
be to the right of all that stuff by a
law shirt like Bill Mahr and lots of people. The
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best thing that could happen for us is if they
continue to believe that they have the numbers they think
they have as opposed to the tiny fraction that actually
agrees with them.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Right, I'm reminded of something great you've brought to us.
I think it was last year about how it only
takes fifteen percent of a population that's dedicated to a
revolution to make it successful. Because you want to give
us the nickel version of that.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, you have to have the fifteen percent really really
active group that wants to overthrow the current regime. But
you get a big enough chunk of people who mostly
agree with you. They're not going to really do much,
but they're not going to get in the way, and
then you have the crowd that's scared of you, and
you can easily get over fifty percent.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Right right, and that's how you win.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And imagine if you were in that hardcore fifteen percent
that wanted to, I don't know, for the sake of
the argument overthrow Western society in the name of neo Marxism.
Imagine if your first step was to capture media and education.
I mean, that would be an enormous coupe because you could,
and I'm stating the obvious here, you could project the
idea that you have way way more mass than you
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do for your radical ideas, like radical gender theory, which
I will give you a clue. It's like over a
third of American states are teaching radical theory. There's no
such thing as a man or a woman. You get
to choose to little kids in schools. So man, these
these scumbags, And I'm sorry for the for the you know,
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I'm a wardsmith. I can do better than that. I
apologize these monsters. At least it's more adult. The fact
that these monsters have gotten as far as they have
is really really troubling. But you know, on we go
with the fight.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Trudeau resigning in Canada is a lot of what sparked.
For instance, the Ullstreet Journal article one on the list
of Western leaders or parties that have really suffered defeats
trying to ride the whole pronouns latinex you should be
ashamed of yourself for being a white male thang.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Right, Yeah, yeah, he was huge into that.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
And the what's really troubling about this, and we've had
a bunch of conversations, is you got to your well,
just you keep calling it fifteen percent for the sake
of the argument.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You get your hardcore fifteen percent their activists.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well, the genius of Neo Marxism developed in the intellectual
salons of Europe in the forties and fifties, nineteen forties
and nineteen fifties. They wrote books, they signed their name,
they told us precisely what they wanted to do. The
genius of it is they have crafted, and it's an
evil genius, these moral sounding arguments that convince a certain
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sort of person that they are doing the right thing
morally by becoming an adherent to Neo Marxism. And it's
particularly effective among women who want to seek agreement and
groups and acceptments of that sort of thing. And it's
particularly successful among your university crowd who want to be
on the cutting edge of thought. That's how they gratify
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their egos by being the innovator, the new person, the revolutionary.
It's incredibly I mean, they take practically sexual glee for
being innovators in the universities, because how are you going
to justify your big sal Gary if you in any
level of education, say you know that stuff we've been doing,
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it's perfect. I wouldn't change it at all. True, you've
wasted your PhD. So anyway, man, you have heard a
lot of gun shots. If your reaction to a gunshot
in a room is this.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
And choices we got in lay? Those were your choices?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Been calmer than shot? Who did somebody get shot?
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
What?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's good.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It would be the most amazing thing that ever happened
in my life. If a gun went off in a room.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
We're sitting there interviewing I don't know, Rich Lowry from
the National Review, and.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Rich says who shot? Who? Who? Somebody get shot?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
And choices we got in lay? Those were your choices?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Who?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
It actually pretty interesting conversation before or you know, the
gun winner. So the other thing I wanted to squeeze
in a couple more kind of wrapping up the year,
looking forward to the year things, because I'll rant and
rave about the previous story for.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
The rest of my life.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
But Jan Crawford was on CBS's face the Nation Sunday.
I saw that, and she brought the thunder that the
most uncovered and underreported topic last year was clearly she said,
quote that to me, Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline. They
became undeniable in the televised debate, unquestioned that that's the
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most underreported story of the year.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, absolutely true. But we'll be lost to history. It's
amazing that there isn't more introspection over that. Well, here's
the really interesting part. She says, still incredibly, we read
in the Washington Post that his advisers are saying that
he regrets that he dropped out of the race, that
he thinks he could have beaten Trump, and I think
that is either delusional or the gaslighting the American people.
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But CBS's chief Election and campaign correspondent Robert Costa jumped
up and said, well, President Biden has repeatedly said he
was sick during the debate in Atlanta, and he's always
been fine, and he leaves fine.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That is his position.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
The position of many of his top stadents, as well
as even though there is that reporting that Jan was
talking to reduce the obvious accepted by everyone reality of
Joe Biden's coggen decline as there is that reporting, but
he has now Jan he has said repeatedly had a cold.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Costa's lost to me, he's he's lost his mind. I
don't know who that's for.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Eighty five percent of America before that debate thought he
shouldn't serve again. So I don't know who you're serving
with that, But enjoy your bubble Bob, the Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
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Speaker 1 (12:52):
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Speaker 2 (12:53):
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Speaker 1 (12:55):
Links Armstrong and Joe Getty, The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Thank You. In Los Angeles, jury has awarded a man
fifty million dollars after he was seriously burned by a
Starbucks drink. Now, the person got burnt pretty good, but
I had on his junk, on his junk and says
he can't have sex anymore. Although you would make that
argument if you're trying to get fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
So whether that's accurate or not, I do not know.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
But and I'm not a lawyer, but I don't know
how you work this out in society. On one hand,
I'm going through the drive through at Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I don't deserve to be maimed for life. No, certainly,
not in my privets.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
On the other hand, it's an impossible expectation that nothing
ever goes wrong ever, And you know, nailing down whether
it was the employee's fault or the person in the
car's fault is difficult. I mean, if you ever go
to Starbucks get more than one drink, they give you
that cardboard holder that the drinks fit in. And this
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person claimed that they didn't secure the tea in. It
was sitting at an angle and then it spilled. Oh
maybe it was or maybe you hit it on the
window or with urob or whatever. I don't know, but anyway,
you can't get everything perfect all the time.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Fifty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
The problem with this, to me is what it's what
drives so many of the things that make us nuts
in life. The fact that the school won't let your
kid play if it's rained in the last two days.
You have to stay inside for reasss because they might slip,
and some jury will award one hundred million dollars. I mean,
it's just it's an unworkable situation for society. So I
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don't and you know, you wouldn't want Starbucks to be
able to like, here comes my girlfriend's ex boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm gonna throw.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Hot tea in his face at the drive through, and
there'd be no penalty for that. I mean, so there's
gotta be a Ligne somewhere obviously.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I just think we've gotten so far off tracks as
a society because it's very different than virtually any other
legal system on Earth. You're not going to get a
fifty million dollar reward like this in Argentina or or
probably Britain. I don't think, But I don't think we
as people understand how far off we've gotten. And a
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big reason for that. What is the number one profession
among legislators. It's not even close.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
You know, it's an attorney, right, and the whole jury
thing where you this is one of the reasons that
we regularly say, you know, don't make those jokes about
how to get out of jury duty. Show up on
the jury so you could say, so you could be
there as a smart person, say fifty fifty million dollars
is insane, Yes, because you got to. I'm guessing you
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got a jury. Pro peoples of Starbucks is rich, they
can afford it. I don't like them anyway, you know
that sort.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Of thing, right, Yeah, yeah, boy.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
If there's one technology mankind has not perfected, it's the
getting the cup lid to click on the cup thing
in the world of coffee. And you know, granted, I'm
an older fellow now, and I've learned the hard lessons
of life, sometimes more than once, usually more than once
before I absorb them. Boy, anybody who has boiling hot
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coffee and assumes that lid is on their right, you
are a bold man and a foolish one.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I just when I heard that, I just thought, oh crap,
this is going to lead to even more Sorry, we
can't allow you to do this stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Or you get like room temperature coffee.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Right, coffee can't ever be That might be the reaction
from Starbucks, No more hot coffee. I know lots of
people order stuff extra hot, because I've known Barista's order
stuff extra hot. It's already so hot you can't drink it.
But it's the idea that it'll be it's so hot
that by the time you get to work on your
fifteen minute commute, it'll still be hot.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Well, I'll bet that goes out the window after this settlement. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
So I shouldn't say this, but everybody's thinking about it,
so I will. So this guy got fifty million dollars
as he could never have sex again?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Was he any good at it? I mean, does that
factor into the juries? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I mean you think they should interview previous lovers and say, so,
how much of a loss is this for humanity?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Well? Yeah, I mean because it's obviously lost to him,
no matter his skills, but to humanity, because shouldn't that
be a fifty to fifty thing on also Consortium, et cetera,
on a scale of me to wow, where was he exactly?
I'm just I'm asking these questions. I don't have the answers.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, God dang it.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and Getty Show, The
arm Strong and Geeddy Show.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Joanna Stern writes about tech for The Wall Street Journal.
She's very clever, as you're about to hear, and sounds
down to earth and as I enjoy your writing.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
The opening bit of this article tells it all.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I've been wearing a wire everywhere since February. I've got
all the transcripts important meetings, arguments with my kids, chats
with disgruntled employees, late night bathroom routines. There's plenty more
that I can't share if I want you to keep
liking me. She has been willingly wearing a fifty dollars
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be Pioneer bracelet that records everything she says and uses
AI to summarize her life and send her helpful reminders.
Getting back to the article, I also tested two similar gadgets,
the one hundred and ninety nine dollars Limitless Pendant and
the one hundred and fifty nine.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Dollars plowd Note pin.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
These assistants can recall every dumb, private, and cringe worthy
thing that came out of my mouth. Is this the
dawn of the AI surveillance state? Absolutely? Is it also
the dream of hyper personal, all knowing AI assistance coming
to life?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Also? Yes? Absolutely, Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
The first thing I thought of was, and usually i'm
I'm my first go to is surveillance state. But my
first thought was, wow, if I had AI reminding me, hey,
remember you're gonna work on that. Getting your real ID
the deadline's coming up. I would love that.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, And I was just gonna say, if y'all are
sitting there thinking.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
What the hell good would this do me?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
She gets to that and it's pretty cool. Let me
read more of her piece. Within hours of wearing the
bee again, one of the three devices she tried, I
was blown away how quickly it turned ramblings in random
chatter into useful, actionable information. Yet allow me to quote
myself from February twenty fourth at five point fifteen pm. Wow,
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quote this bracelet is really effing creepy.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So here's how they work.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
And she mentions that all the denials we've heard through
the years that social media apps are secretly listening to
us too hard, too intensive, too much datah, yeah, please,
but all those devices do that. They detect dialogue, especially
your voice, and they stream the audio to your phone
via Bluetooth, then to company servers where it's transcribed. AI
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models take the transcription and generate summaries, which appear in
the apps within minutes. Now, one of the devices that
does not save the audio.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
All it has is the transcriptions.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
The other one, limitless keeps the audio, letting you play
back full recordings of everything you've said, boy.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Oh boy, oh boy.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
But it's a little weird for us because I have
full recordings of what I say four hours a day,
five days a week the past thirty years.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
But so it's not as foreign to me.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
But why i'd be something, But you and I also
have a heightened awareness of the difference between when the
mics are on and when they're not true, And more
than one good career has been ended because a mic
was on somebody thought it was not I've had a
few disadonge that bullet a couple of times ourselves.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I've had a few disagreements in my life, like minor
to major, where would have been kind of handy to
be able to go back and say, I'm.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Pretty sure you didn't mention that to me. They said, yeah,
I did. It's like to.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Screet the commercials. Who is it an insurance commercial? I
can't remember. Let's go to the tape and they go
under the hood, right like NFL referees.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yes, yes, Katie.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I'm just thinking this sounds like a wife's dream.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
The amount of time were like I told you we
have dinner tonight at five, No you didn't. Let's go
to the tape. Let's go to the tape, sir. That's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Then she gets into some of the technical ups and downs,
and Katie would love to have you comment on this
to your heart's content. But and she gets into how
AI is nothing without data.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
It needs data.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
So when you feeded everything you've said for days, weeks,
and months, it gets infinitely more useful. Also, yes, it
becomes a lot more like a Black Mirror episode, but
we'll get into that.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
She writes.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
With massive transcripts of your life, the AI in these
apps can summarize. They recap your conversations, often reading like
a bad biography. This is great. The b Device summary
from April ninth, Johanna's day was a blend of familiar
responsibilities and intense professional engagements. She ended the day listening
to music by sting riveting stuff. Can't wait for the
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movie adaptation.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Wow, there'd be some days, excuse me, there'd be some days.
Read at disappointed in the summary. You worked, you came home,
you scrolled through Twitter, you ate crap and went to bed.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Oh my own business AI?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Who Jack is eating his twenty seventh double quarter pounder
in this week?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, yeah, thank you crack yeah, it was Kenton, I am.
The transcriptions themselves aren't all that accurate, but the summaries
usually off are well except for March twenty fourth conversation
with Johnny Cochrane about trial evidence.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yep, just a casual chat with a deceased celebrity lawyer.
And she says in parentheses, I was watching the new
OJ documentary. That's funny. But Jack to your prescient point earlier.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Some of the ways that they're helpful is summarizing things
and reminders. Turns out I promise to do a lot
of things without putting them on a to do list.
B listens for action items and adds them to suggested
lists because they understand the.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Verbiage in an action item.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
It's repeatedly reminded me of important tasks like calling the
plumber or following up on work stuff. But it also
hilariously adds things I'd never put on a list, like quote,
check in on your six son, or schedule a follow
up with your hairstylist to discuss your haircut.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Let's see it analyzes. God, No, how great would that be.
I'll bet this happens soon.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And like a lot of things in life, we can't
remember what it was like before it where you know
in ten years age?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Remember when you like now where?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I often think, you know, I go somewhere and I think,
how did I used to get to places? I don't
even remember how I used to get to places? Did
I pull out a map? Or how did I even
do it?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
As friendly strangers? Right?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, yeah, sometimes you'd pull into a gas station and say,
you know, I'm looking for the sporting goods store, which
I know is around here somewhere, but I could see
here in a couple of years. Would be like, do
you remember when you used to have to remember things
or write them down on a post it note instead
of having AI tell me, remember your son's got the
volleyball game, so you got to pick them up from
school early.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
That sort of yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Right, I can't be the only person assembled friends who
is not great at making to do lists. And how
many times have I said, I mean, Jeff, yeah no,
I won't bother, I'll remember it. I'll remember to make
to do lists. How many times have I said, when
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I think of it, I don't have time, and when
I have time, I don't think of it.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Correct Anyway, Here's another thing.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
It does both be and Limitless have chatbots so you
can ask about your recorded life. I asked B for
a detailed breakdown of my cursing habits. Daily average two
point four curses. Please, you're not even trying, sweetheart, But
it can.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Be what are you a nun?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Two point four a day.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah, well it's impressive. Well she has kids, good for you.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Well, yeah, you're never in the car alone. Get on
my blanking way.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
But then she says it can be genuinely helpful, like quote,
look through my chats with Ethan from B and tell
me what AI model it uses, So reminders of factual
things you heard in a conversation that are a little fuzzy.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Now, God, I'm starting to think I might So all
of this surveillance stuff we've all opted in, we've all
decided we're going to carry around a tracking device with
us all the time, and we all know that we
just feel like the advantages outweigh the possible disadvantages. I
think this might end up being true for recording everything.
I say that the advantages will outweigh the You know
(26:13):
how it could be misused. God, if you could quickly
you wouldn't even have to listen to the conversation. If
AI could go back through the transcript and it would say, yeah,
your wife did tell you that you had dinner to
night at five oh cramp eh.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Um, or no they didn't. It might be handy. Yeah,
I tell you.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I would describe myself, and again, I have a feeling
I'm not unique in this is busy, well meaning and
absent minded. And if my what sits could say to me, hey,
remember you agreed to play a golf with Gordy tomorrow afternoon,
I'd be like, oh, shoot right, because you know that's
one of my great weaknesses.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
So care's how and you're built that way or you're not.
It's so obvious because I got two kids that are
completely different. I got one kid that's very close to
me on term of that stuff, kind of like you
just described my other kid.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
It just it just all locked in his brain all
the time.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
He knows where everything is, he knows what's on the
schedule today, he knows it's all there all the time.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah. But I can't. I can't try harder and be
that way. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
One of the reasons my wife and I have escaped
financial ruin and other bad fates is she's meticulous, and
so you know when she like pays a bill late,
it's alert the media.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, it's just what anyway, how they're creepy.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
February twenty third, five point fifteen, in a conversation with
my mom. This bracelet has nothing to do with fitness.
It records everything that's being said, as her mom was
asking her, Nobody I've talked to over the past few
months would have known I was recording them if I
hadn't told them.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's a little fun like I'm a low budget Ethan Hunt.
I don't. I don't get that references by some sort.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Mostly though, I just felt like a creep and depending
on the state, I might have been breaking the law.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, that's the other side of this. All that conversation stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Both ends of it should be as into it as
maybe I would be. Otherwise, you're recording all your friends conversations.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
That's and family's. That's pretty dicey.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
And then.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Some of these are just hilarious because they have transcripts
and summaries right of your various conversations. This one's labeled
interaction with pet Dog Browser. I think it's browser, but
maybe it is browser. That's a very writery thing to
name your dog. Here's the transcript. Someone scolded browser for
(28:43):
chewing something. Speaker one, Browser, what are you doing? Speaker
one again? Can you not chew your whatever? Speaker one again? Browser?
Some transcripts? Yeah, oh that is some useful stuff. Most
of my recordings were in New Jersey and New York. Sure,
one party consent states, and I'd agreed. But if I
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were in one of about a dozen states that require
two party consent, I need permission from everyone in earshot
or end up with a possible civil liability case.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, that's I don't know how that's gonna work in
states where you got to have two party consent.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
And then she quotes a lawyer Jack, who surprisingly says
you better not, which is what lawyers are paid to say.
More specifically, he says I would make sure everyone has
consented verbally, and while the risk might be low, he adds,
we would never recommend people take that risk.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Well, geez, I mean if somebody walks up to me
and says, I wear a device that records all of our.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Conversations, just want to make sure that's okay with you, I'd.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Be an automatic no f all the way off yeah, exactly.
How far away can you get in the next ten seconds?
Get there? How does this benefit me in any way?
There's only down side, So any thoughts, usefulness, hazards, etcetera.
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Drop us a note mail bag at Armstrong and getty
dot com. We'll hit them around the same time tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
During the show, they kind of reminded me of stuff though,
because it remembers what I said.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
That'd be cool.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yeah, if they could refine it to promises and actions.
And of course, you know, in the scenario we've we've
talked about a couple of times, it would have to
be recording my wife saying don't don't forget we're having
dinner with the Joneses next Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
But it does it also record remember the other night
when you said you'd blink my blank.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Oh no, you don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Of course, it'd be good to have a transcript funny
right here in black and white.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
All right, Yes, I see it's here. Not trying to
be argumentative here, but read the transfer eight seventeen on
April the third. I mean, it's just it's just a.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Fact I'm strong and getting show a shadowy network called
seven sixty four, whose goal is to spark violence and
chaos around the world, in part by luring in unsuspecting teenagers.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
Seven sixty four targets kids on social media and gaming platforms,
extorting them into sending violent and sexual content. The FBI
is warning parents to pay attention to who their kids
are talking to on social media and gaming platforms. The
FBI's investigating more than two hundred and fifty suspects tied
to seven sixty four, with every.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Field office involved. Well, that's just dandy.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I am a parent of teenagers who'd never even heard
of that in my life until two seconds ago.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
So that's just great.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Let's just put that on the long list of things
you can be concerned about if your kid's got a phone.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Not so fast, there's more to be concerned about if
your kid has a phone. I was just reading that
the hacker ring that you may remember put Vegas.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Out of commission?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
What was that?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Years?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Six months ago, a year ago? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Time flies when you're but they brought down all those
casinos for a time. That is a very loosely assembled
group of bored, malcontent, mischievous youngsters who call themselves the
con or something like that. And this specific subgroup of
the subgroup calls themselves scattered Spider, I guess, and they
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just they hack into various corporations and companies and government
institutions and stuff like that for fun and mischief, and
sometimes they steal, but sometimes they.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Just screw with it.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
That whole keep track of who your kids talk to
on social media and everything like that sounded a lot
easier before, well before my kids got old enough to
be involved in that world. And as far as I
can tell, I'm more strict than a lot of my
son's friends parents are. And it's still just I mean,
there's just so many opportunities for them to be involved
(32:54):
with bad people. I mean, unless I'm gonna be over
his shoulder all the time.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
I I was a very big fan as a parent,
partly for that reason, and I completely support the idea
of trying not to trying to eliminate opportunities to do
bad things one hundred percent. But I realized at one
point what you're talking about, and so I just really
emphasized the underlying principles right behind doing some things and
(33:21):
not doing some things, and how extremely important they were
to me as their dad and their mom certainly, but
how important and fundamental they are to being a good
person and a bad person. And then when they're loose
on the town and they're presented with temptation, you hope
and pray they make the right choice, and or if
they make the wrong choice, it's not a disaster.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Right, which has a lot to do with their friend
group and everything else, which has always been true. And
the opportunity to get in trouble is exponentially greater now
than it was twenty years ago. I mean, it's just
a completely different world. You couldn't order heroin and in
a machine gun from any tiny town in America when
(34:02):
I was in high school, or come across a you know,
an international pedophile sex ring.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
It just wasn't gonna happen. Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I was going to bring up a kind of vague
philosophical theme about the modern world. Don't really have time
to get into it now, but.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Has to do.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
And I can't get into specifics in my little world. Really,
You'll have to forgive me for that for now. But
a friend of mine characterized kind of a mood as
the slime from the Ghostbusters movies, the original Ghostbuster, the
(34:45):
early eighties, classic early eighties, like eighties three, when was
that out? Anyway, you may recall that when all the
ghosts were running wild in New York City, one of
the things they did was like spread this green slime
around ghost The effect it had was not just you know,
green slime is effect enough, ick, but but it caused
(35:07):
New Yorkers to be angry and disagreeable and turn on
each other. And we're discussing a very local context and
also the angst and not happiness of youth, and the
fact that incumbents all over the developed world are getting
(35:28):
tossed out of office, and the parties that have been
fairly stable and in power, you know, they switch places
now and again, but they're just getting tossed aside, there
is a near global feeling of angst and unhappiness that
I don't ever recall before true.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
That what do we do with this information? To do
about it?
Speaker 3 (35:51):
We get used to it, do we settle into some
or it just keeps getting worse by heroin and machine
guns on the internet, like we're discussing earlier, Fantastic.
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Speaker 5 (00:37):
Sir, the choices we got in lay, those were your choices. Shadow,
somebody got shot?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Oh how good? Hold on the dirty dead? What do
I want with my.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Da do shaty?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
What the hell is this?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Everybody that is?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
That is rapper too low? Who is a pairing as
a kiss? A guest on a podcast? Who the gun
went off in his pocket? Apparently somehow?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Okay? First of all, guests on a podcast. To have
a podcast, all you need to do is own a
phone or a computer. So is this a podcast with
any I mean anyway? So he's sitting around talking to
a guy and his gun goes off. What's the most
interesting to me is these people live such a lifestyle.
The reaction is, Hey, whose gun went off? Somebody's gone went?
(01:34):
Who shots?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Ibody?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Who?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Somebody's gun went off?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Whereas most of the company I keep, if there were
a gun shot in the room, we would all be
quite flabbergasted.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Who shot? Who?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Oh my gosh, is that a gun in your pocket?
Or you're just happy to be on my podcast. Hello,
slay that again, Michael.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Just the beginning of it.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
And choices we got in life. Those were your choices.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
All right.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Getting back to our topic, motivating ourselves for the new year,
rapper too low If you need to stick to your
diet through January.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Oh that's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
So there are a couple of things I wanted to
do yesterday as kind of a kicking off the ear thing.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
But we have so much. Let's to get to it.
We can't get to all of it. But I love this.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I'm gonna hit you with part of it and then
we'll move on. We got a bunch of stuff. But
this is written by a guy named Jeff Goldstein, who
is a writer I really like, and he has this
redeclaration of independence and you'll know what he's driving at immediately.
Be it so understood. This is my vow for the
new year, too. I refuse to unpack white violence. I
(02:51):
reject the idea that my existence perpetuates white power structures.
I will not, and in fact, cannot, examine my ipplicit
biases an individual. I refuse to grant determined interpretive communities
authority over my being. My meaning is mine is what
makes me me. I'm not taking any journey to discover
the impact of my privilege on black and brown people's
(03:13):
I will not become anti racist or anti fascist to
satisfy your demands. I reject cultural Marxism. I am an individual.
I'm not defined by my color, my lrige, and my sex.
I'm jeff good to meet you. I will not respect
your pronouns or celebrate your queerness. I am hostile to
your sexualization of children. I reject your triggers and your
desire to control my speech. I know who and what
(03:35):
you are. You are my presumptive master, or else the
useful idiot who empowers him. But I will grant you
and your ideology no power over me. There's more you
want to hear a little more sure. I reject equity
because it is collectivism disguised as virtue. I reject inclusivity
because it is inorganic superficial and contrived. I reject mandated diversity.
(03:56):
I will not surrender to the crayon box mafia, nor
do the gender changelings who pretend I am construct answerable
to their whims.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Cultural appropriation is merely culture.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It expands to include, and it makes up the very
fabric of a pluralistic society. There's no such thing as
digital blackface. My whiteness is not violent, my sex is
not oppressive. My religion doesn't concern you, and my children
are not yours. STA mold, Your beliefs will not be
imposed on me. The state will not parent my sons.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Theory. Yes, digital blackface, I'd forgotten that term. Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Again if you've lost a thread, this is a red
declaration of independence.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Queer theory is critical. Race theory is critical.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Consciousness is the Marxist rejection of the individual as individual.
I have some stats on how many states queer theory
is being taught in schools to little children as truth
and is as shocking. Well, one more time. Queer theory
is critical. Race theory is critical. Consciousness is the Marxist
(05:02):
rejection of the individual as individual. Cultural Marxism is determined
to raise norms so chaos tear families asunder and reduce
being to collective conformity. I reject its premises as fully
as I reject its adherents. I will not comply. I
will not mouth your slogans. I will not denounce on command.
I am not your tool, and you are not my minder.
(05:25):
And he has a little more about my speech is
my own. I reject each of your excuses to silence me.
I don't ask for your protections. I can filter information
without your interference, Mark Zuckerberg, and I despise your presumption
to protect me from myself. I am your sworn enemy,
and you are mine. I will not perform for you.
I will not read from your script or dance in
(05:47):
your follies. Oh my brother, we will post this at
armstrong egedi dot com.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It is brilliant, and he goes on. But that's the main.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Party, and it fits in with that Wall Street Journal
article I was reading from last hour, The progressive moment
in global politics is over. That moment existed mostly online
and with the you know, high level university set. It
was a much smaller group than we all thought or feared,
thank god, but it was it was misleading because it
(06:19):
was so prevalent in you know, TV, newspapers and Twitter
in places like that, but it was not near as
big as we all thought. And the best thing that
could happen to people that are on the right side
of that, and you could be a lifelong Democrat and
be to the right of all that stuff by a
law shirt like Bill Mahr and lots of people. The
(06:41):
best thing that could happen for us is if they
continue to believe that they have the numbers they think
they have as opposed to the tiny fraction that actually
agrees with them.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Right, I'm reminded of something great you've brought to us.
I think it was last year about how it only
takes fifteen percent of a population that's dedicated to a
revolution to make it successful. Because you want to give
us the nickel version of that.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, you have to have the fifteen percent really really
active group that wants to overthrow the current regime. But
you get a big enough chunk of people who mostly
agree with you. They're not going to really do much,
but they're not going to get in the way, and
then you have the crowd that's scared of you, and
you can easily get over fifty percent.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Right right, and that's how you win.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And imagine if you were in that hardcore fifteen percent
that wanted to, I don't know, for the sake of
the argument overthrow Western society in the name of neo Marxism.
Imagine if your first step was to capture media and education.
I mean, that would be an enormous coupe because you could,
and I'm stating the obvious here, you could project the
idea that you have way way more mass than you
(07:49):
do for your radical ideas, like radical gender theory, which
I will give you a clue. It's like over a
third of American states are teaching radical theory. There's no
such thing as a man or a woman. You get
to choose to little kids in schools. So man, these
these scumbags, And I'm sorry for the for the you know,
(08:11):
I'm a wardsmith. I can do better than that. I
apologize these monsters. At least it's more adult. The fact
that these monsters have gotten as far as they have
is really really troubling. But you know, on we go
with the fight.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Trudeau resigning in Canada is a lot of what sparked.
For instance, the Ullstreet Journal article one on the list
of Western leaders or parties that have really suffered defeats
trying to ride the whole pronouns latinex you should be
ashamed of yourself for being a white male thang.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Right, Yeah, yeah, he was huge into that.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
And the what's really troubling about this, and we've had
a bunch of conversations, is you got to your well,
just you keep calling it fifteen percent for the sake
of the argument.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You get your hardcore fifteen percent their activists.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well, the genius of Neo Marxism developed in the intellectual
salons of Europe in the forties and fifties, nineteen forties
and nineteen fifties. They wrote books, they signed their name,
they told us precisely what they wanted to do. The
genius of it is they have crafted, and it's an
evil genius, these moral sounding arguments that convince a certain
(09:23):
sort of person that they are doing the right thing
morally by becoming an adherent to Neo Marxism. And it's
particularly effective among women who want to seek agreement and
groups and acceptments of that sort of thing. And it's
particularly successful among your university crowd who want to be
on the cutting edge of thought. That's how they gratify
(09:44):
their egos by being the innovator, the new person, the revolutionary.
It's incredibly I mean, they take practically sexual glee for
being innovators in the universities, because how are you going
to justify your big sal Gary if you in any
level of education, say you know that stuff we've been doing,
(10:04):
it's perfect. I wouldn't change it at all. True, you've
wasted your PhD. So anyway, man, you have heard a
lot of gun shots. If your reaction to a gunshot
in a room is this.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
And choices we got in lay? Those were your choices?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Been calmer than shot? Who did somebody get shot?
Speaker 6 (10:33):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
What?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's good.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It would be the most amazing thing that ever happened
in my life. If a gun went off in a room.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
We're sitting there interviewing I don't know, Rich Lowry from
the National Review, and.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Rich says who shot? Who? Who? Somebody get shot?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
And choices we got in lay? Those were your choices?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Who?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
It actually pretty interesting conversation before or you know, the
gun winner. So the other thing I wanted to squeeze
in a couple more kind of wrapping up the year,
looking forward to the year things, because I'll rant and
rave about the previous story for.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
The rest of my life.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
But Jan Crawford was on CBS's face the Nation Sunday.
I saw that, and she brought the thunder that the
most uncovered and underreported topic last year was clearly she said,
quote that to me, Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline. They
became undeniable in the televised debate, unquestioned that that's the
(11:35):
most underreported story of the year.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, absolutely true. But we'll be lost to history. It's
amazing that there isn't more introspection over that. Well, here's
the really interesting part. She says, still incredibly, we read
in the Washington Post that his advisers are saying that
he regrets that he dropped out of the race, that
he thinks he could have beaten Trump, and I think
that is either delusional or the gaslighting the American people.
(12:00):
But CBS's chief Election and campaign correspondent Robert Costa jumped
up and said, well, President Biden has repeatedly said he
was sick during the debate in Atlanta, and he's always
been fine, and he leaves fine.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That is his position.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
The position of many of his top stadents, as well
as even though there is that reporting that Jan was
talking to reduce the obvious accepted by everyone reality of
Joe Biden's coggen decline as there is that reporting, but
he has now Jan he has said repeatedly had a cold.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Costa's lost to me, he's he's lost his mind. I
don't know who that's for.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Eighty five percent of America before that debate thought he
shouldn't serve again. So I don't know who you're serving
with that, But enjoy your bubble Bob, the Armstrong.
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Speaker 3 (13:09):
Thank You. In Los Angeles, jury has awarded a man
fifty million dollars after he was seriously burned by a
Starbucks drink. Now, the person got burnt pretty good, but
I had on his junk, on his junk and says
he can't have sex anymore. Although you would make that
argument if you're trying to get fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
So whether that's accurate or not, I do not know.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
But and I'm not a lawyer, but I don't know
how you work this out in society. On one hand,
I'm going through the drive through at Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I don't deserve to be maimed for life. No, certainly,
not in my privets.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
On the other hand, it's an impossible expectation that nothing
ever goes wrong ever, And you know, nailing down whether
it was the employee's fault or the person in the
car's fault is difficult. I mean, if you ever go
to Starbucks get more than one drink, they give you
that cardboard holder that the drinks fit in. And this
(14:04):
person claimed that they didn't secure the tea in. It
was sitting at an angle and then it spilled. Oh
maybe it was or maybe you hit it on the
window or with urob or whatever. I don't know, but anyway,
you can't get everything perfect all the time.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Fifty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
The problem with this, to me is what it's what
drives so many of the things that make us nuts
in life. The fact that the school won't let your
kid play if it's rained in the last two days.
You have to stay inside for reasss because they might slip,
and some jury will award one hundred million dollars. I mean,
it's just it's an unworkable situation for society. So I
(14:41):
don't and you know, you wouldn't want Starbucks to be
able to like, here comes my girlfriend's ex boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm gonna throw.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Hot tea in his face at the drive through, and
there'd be no penalty for that. I mean, so there's
gotta be a Ligne somewhere obviously.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I just think we've gotten so far off tracks as
a society because it's very different than virtually any other
legal system on Earth. You're not going to get a
fifty million dollar reward like this in Argentina or or
probably Britain. I don't think, But I don't think we
as people understand how far off we've gotten. And a
(15:17):
big reason for that. What is the number one profession
among legislators. It's not even close.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
You know, it's an attorney, right, and the whole jury
thing where you this is one of the reasons that
we regularly say, you know, don't make those jokes about
how to get out of jury duty. Show up on
the jury so you could say, so you could be
there as a smart person, say fifty fifty million dollars
is insane, Yes, because you got to. I'm guessing you
(15:45):
got a jury. Pro peoples of Starbucks is rich, they
can afford it. I don't like them anyway, you know
that sort.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Of thing, right, Yeah, yeah, boy.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
If there's one technology mankind has not perfected, it's the
getting the cup lid to click on the cup thing
in the world of coffee. And you know, granted, I'm
an older fellow now, and I've learned the hard lessons
of life, sometimes more than once, usually more than once
before I absorb them. Boy, anybody who has boiling hot
(16:14):
coffee and assumes that lid is on their right, you
are a bold man and a foolish one.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I just when I heard that, I just thought, oh crap,
this is going to lead to even more Sorry, we
can't allow you to do this stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Or you get like room temperature coffee.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Right, coffee can't ever be That might be the reaction
from Starbucks, No more hot coffee. I know lots of
people order stuff extra hot, because I've known Barista's order
stuff extra hot. It's already so hot you can't drink it.
But it's the idea that it'll be it's so hot
that by the time you get to work on your
fifteen minute commute, it'll still be hot.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Well, I'll bet that goes out the window after this settlement. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
So I shouldn't say this, but everybody's thinking about it,
so I will. So this guy got fifty million dollars
as he could never have sex again?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Was he any good at it? I mean, does that
factor into the juries? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I mean you think they should interview previous lovers and say, so,
how much of a loss is this for humanity?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Well? Yeah, I mean because it's obviously lost to him,
no matter his skills, but to humanity, because shouldn't that
be a fifty to fifty thing on also Consortium, et cetera,
on a scale of me to wow, where was he exactly?
I'm just I'm asking these questions. I don't have the answers.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, God dang it.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and Getty Show, The
arm Strong and Geeddy Show.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Joanna Stern writes about tech for The Wall Street Journal.
She's very clever, as you're about to hear, and sounds
down to earth and as I enjoy your writing.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
The opening bit of this article tells it all.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I've been wearing a wire everywhere since February. I've got
all the transcripts important meetings, arguments with my kids, chats
with disgruntled employees, late night bathroom routines. There's plenty more
that I can't share if I want you to keep
liking me. She has been willingly wearing a fifty dollars
(18:24):
be Pioneer bracelet that records everything she says and uses
AI to summarize her life and send her helpful reminders.
Getting back to the article, I also tested two similar gadgets,
the one hundred and ninety nine dollars Limitless Pendant and
the one hundred and fifty nine.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Dollars plowd Note pin.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
These assistants can recall every dumb, private, and cringe worthy
thing that came out of my mouth. Is this the
dawn of the AI surveillance state? Absolutely? Is it also
the dream of hyper personal, all knowing AI assistance coming
to life?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Also? Yes? Absolutely, Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
The first thing I thought of was, and usually i'm
I'm my first go to is surveillance state. But my
first thought was, wow, if I had AI reminding me, hey,
remember you're gonna work on that. Getting your real ID
the deadline's coming up. I would love that.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, And I was just gonna say, if y'all are
sitting there thinking.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
What the hell good would this do me?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
She gets to that and it's pretty cool. Let me
read more of her piece. Within hours of wearing the
bee again, one of the three devices she tried, I
was blown away how quickly it turned ramblings in random
chatter into useful, actionable information. Yet allow me to quote
myself from February twenty fourth at five point fifteen pm. Wow,
(19:46):
quote this bracelet is really effing creepy.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
So here's how they work.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
And she mentions that all the denials we've heard through
the years that social media apps are secretly listening to
us too hard, too intensive, too much datah, yeah, please,
but all those devices do that. They detect dialogue, especially
your voice, and they stream the audio to your phone
via Bluetooth, then to company servers where it's transcribed. AI
(20:17):
models take the transcription and generate summaries, which appear in
the apps within minutes. Now, one of the devices that
does not save the audio.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
All it has is the transcriptions.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
The other one, limitless keeps the audio, letting you play
back full recordings of everything you've said, boy.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Oh boy, oh boy.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
But it's a little weird for us because I have
full recordings of what I say four hours a day,
five days a week the past thirty years.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
But so it's not as foreign to me.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
But why i'd be something, But you and I also
have a heightened awareness of the difference between when the
mics are on and when they're not true, And more
than one good career has been ended because a mic
was on somebody thought it was not I've had a
few disadonge that bullet a couple of times ourselves.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I've had a few disagreements in my life, like minor
to major, where would have been kind of handy to
be able to go back and say, I'm.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Pretty sure you didn't mention that to me. They said, yeah,
I did. It's like to.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Screet the commercials. Who is it an insurance commercial? I
can't remember. Let's go to the tape and they go
under the hood, right like NFL referees.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yes, yes, Katie.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I'm just thinking this sounds like a wife's dream.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
The amount of time were like I told you we
have dinner tonight at five, No you didn't. Let's go
to the tape. Let's go to the tape, sir. That's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Then she gets into some of the technical ups and downs,
and Katie would love to have you comment on this
to your heart's content. But and she gets into how
AI is nothing without data.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
It needs data.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
So when you feeded everything you've said for days, weeks,
and months, it gets infinitely more useful. Also, yes, it
becomes a lot more like a Black Mirror episode, but
we'll get into that.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
She writes.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
With massive transcripts of your life, the AI in these
apps can summarize. They recap your conversations, often reading like
a bad biography. This is great. The b Device summary
from April ninth, Johanna's day was a blend of familiar
responsibilities and intense professional engagements. She ended the day listening
to music by sting riveting stuff. Can't wait for the
(22:32):
movie adaptation.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Wow, there'd be some days, excuse me, there'd be some days.
Read at disappointed in the summary. You worked, you came home,
you scrolled through Twitter, you ate crap and went to bed.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Oh my own business AI?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Who Jack is eating his twenty seventh double quarter pounder
in this week?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, yeah, thank you crack yeah, it was Kenton, I am.
The transcriptions themselves aren't all that accurate, but the summaries
usually off are well except for March twenty fourth conversation
with Johnny Cochrane about trial evidence.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yep, just a casual chat with a deceased celebrity lawyer.
And she says in parentheses, I was watching the new
OJ documentary. That's funny. But Jack to your prescient point earlier.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Some of the ways that they're helpful is summarizing things
and reminders. Turns out I promise to do a lot
of things without putting them on a to do list.
B listens for action items and adds them to suggested
lists because they understand the.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Verbiage in an action item.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
It's repeatedly reminded me of important tasks like calling the
plumber or following up on work stuff. But it also
hilariously adds things I'd never put on a list, like quote,
check in on your six son, or schedule a follow
up with your hairstylist to discuss your haircut.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Let's see it analyzes. God, No, how great would that be.
I'll bet this happens soon.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And like a lot of things in life, we can't
remember what it was like before it where you know
in ten years age?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Remember when you like now where?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I often think, you know, I go somewhere and I think,
how did I used to get to places? I don't
even remember how I used to get to places? Did
I pull out a map? Or how did I even
do it?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
As friendly strangers? Right?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, yeah, sometimes you'd pull into a gas station and say,
you know, I'm looking for the sporting goods store, which
I know is around here somewhere, but I could see
here in a couple of years. Would be like, do
you remember when you used to have to remember things
or write them down on a post it note instead
of having AI tell me, remember your son's got the
volleyball game, so you got to pick them up from
school early.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
That sort of yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Right, I can't be the only person assembled friends who
is not great at making to do lists. And how
many times have I said, I mean, Jeff, yeah no,
I won't bother, I'll remember it. I'll remember to make
to do lists. How many times have I said, when
(25:03):
I think of it, I don't have time, and when
I have time, I don't think of it.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Correct Anyway, Here's another thing.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
It does both be and Limitless have chatbots so you
can ask about your recorded life. I asked B for
a detailed breakdown of my cursing habits. Daily average two
point four curses. Please, you're not even trying, sweetheart, But
it can.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Be what are you a nun?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Two point four a day.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah, well it's impressive. Well she has kids, good for you.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Well, yeah, you're never in the car alone. Get on
my blanking way.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
But then she says it can be genuinely helpful, like quote,
look through my chats with Ethan from B and tell
me what AI model it uses, So reminders of factual
things you heard in a conversation that are a little fuzzy.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Now, God, I'm starting to think I might So all
of this surveillance stuff we've all opted in, we've all
decided we're going to carry around a tracking device with
us all the time, and we all know that we
just feel like the advantages outweigh the possible disadvantages. I
think this might end up being true for recording everything.
I say that the advantages will outweigh the You know
(26:13):
how it could be misused. God, if you could quickly
you wouldn't even have to listen to the conversation. If
AI could go back through the transcript and it would say, yeah,
your wife did tell you that you had dinner to
night at five oh cramp eh.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Um, or no they didn't. It might be handy. Yeah,
I tell you.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I would describe myself, and again, I have a feeling
I'm not unique in this is busy, well meaning and
absent minded. And if my what sits could say to me, hey,
remember you agreed to play a golf with Gordy tomorrow afternoon,
I'd be like, oh, shoot right, because you know that's
one of my great weaknesses.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
So care's how and you're built that way or you're not.
It's so obvious because I got two kids that are
completely different. I got one kid that's very close to
me on term of that stuff, kind of like you
just described my other kid.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
It just it just all locked in his brain all
the time.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
He knows where everything is, he knows what's on the
schedule today, he knows it's all there all the time.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah. But I can't. I can't try harder and be
that way. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
One of the reasons my wife and I have escaped
financial ruin and other bad fates is she's meticulous, and
so you know when she like pays a bill late,
it's alert the media.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, it's just what anyway, how they're creepy.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
February twenty third, five point fifteen, in a conversation with
my mom. This bracelet has nothing to do with fitness.
It records everything that's being said, as her mom was
asking her, Nobody I've talked to over the past few
months would have known I was recording them if I
hadn't told them.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's a little fun like I'm a low budget Ethan Hunt.
I don't. I don't get that references by some sort.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Mostly though, I just felt like a creep and depending
on the state, I might have been breaking the law.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, that's the other side of this. All that conversation stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Both ends of it should be as into it as
maybe I would be. Otherwise, you're recording all your friends conversations.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
That's and family's. That's pretty dicey.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
And then.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Some of these are just hilarious because they have transcripts
and summaries right of your various conversations. This one's labeled
interaction with pet Dog Browser. I think it's browser, but
maybe it is browser. That's a very writery thing to
name your dog. Here's the transcript. Someone scolded browser for
(28:43):
chewing something. Speaker one, Browser, what are you doing? Speaker
one again? Can you not chew your whatever? Speaker one again? Browser?
Some transcripts? Yeah, oh that is some useful stuff. Most
of my recordings were in New Jersey and New York. Sure,
one party consent states, and I'd agreed. But if I
(29:04):
were in one of about a dozen states that require
two party consent, I need permission from everyone in earshot
or end up with a possible civil liability case.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, that's I don't know how that's gonna work in
states where you got to have two party consent.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
And then she quotes a lawyer Jack, who surprisingly says
you better not, which is what lawyers are paid to say.
More specifically, he says I would make sure everyone has
consented verbally, and while the risk might be low, he adds,
we would never recommend people take that risk.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Well, geez, I mean if somebody walks up to me
and says, I wear a device that records all of our.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Conversations, just want to make sure that's okay with you, I'd.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Be an automatic no f all the way off yeah, exactly.
How far away can you get in the next ten seconds?
Get there? How does this benefit me in any way?
There's only down side, So any thoughts, usefulness, hazards, etcetera.
(30:05):
Drop us a note mail bag at Armstrong and getty
dot com. We'll hit them around the same time tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
During the show, they kind of reminded me of stuff though,
because it remembers what I said.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
That'd be cool.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yeah, if they could refine it to promises and actions.
And of course, you know, in the scenario we've we've
talked about a couple of times, it would have to
be recording my wife saying don't don't forget we're having
dinner with the Joneses next Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
But it does it also record remember the other night
when you said you'd blink my blank.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Oh no, you don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Of course, it'd be good to have a transcript funny
right here in black and white.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
All right, Yes, I see it's here. Not trying to
be argumentative here, but read the transfer eight seventeen on
April the third. I mean, it's just it's just a.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Fact I'm strong and getting show a shadowy network called
seven sixty four, whose goal is to spark violence and
chaos around the world, in part by luring in unsuspecting teenagers.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
Seven sixty four targets kids on social media and gaming platforms,
extorting them into sending violent and sexual content. The FBI
is warning parents to pay attention to who their kids
are talking to on social media and gaming platforms. The
FBI's investigating more than two hundred and fifty suspects tied
to seven sixty four, with every.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Field office involved. Well, that's just dandy.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I am a parent of teenagers who'd never even heard
of that in my life until two seconds ago.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
So that's just great.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Let's just put that on the long list of things
you can be concerned about if your kid's got a phone.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Not so fast, there's more to be concerned about if
your kid has a phone. I was just reading that
the hacker ring that you may remember put Vegas.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Out of commission?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
What was that?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Years?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Six months ago, a year ago? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Time flies when you're but they brought down all those
casinos for a time. That is a very loosely assembled
group of bored, malcontent, mischievous youngsters who call themselves the
con or something like that. And this specific subgroup of
the subgroup calls themselves scattered Spider, I guess, and they
(32:22):
just they hack into various corporations and companies and government
institutions and stuff like that for fun and mischief, and
sometimes they steal, but sometimes they.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Just screw with it.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
That whole keep track of who your kids talk to
on social media and everything like that sounded a lot
easier before, well before my kids got old enough to
be involved in that world. And as far as I
can tell, I'm more strict than a lot of my
son's friends parents are. And it's still just I mean,
there's just so many opportunities for them to be involved
(32:54):
with bad people. I mean, unless I'm gonna be over
his shoulder all the time.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
I I was a very big fan as a parent,
partly for that reason, and I completely support the idea
of trying not to trying to eliminate opportunities to do
bad things one hundred percent. But I realized at one
point what you're talking about, and so I just really
emphasized the underlying principles right behind doing some things and
(33:21):
not doing some things, and how extremely important they were
to me as their dad and their mom certainly, but
how important and fundamental they are to being a good
person and a bad person. And then when they're loose
on the town and they're presented with temptation, you hope
and pray they make the right choice, and or if
they make the wrong choice, it's not a disaster.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Right, which has a lot to do with their friend
group and everything else, which has always been true. And
the opportunity to get in trouble is exponentially greater now
than it was twenty years ago. I mean, it's just
a completely different world. You couldn't order heroin and in
a machine gun from any tiny town in America when
(34:02):
I was in high school, or come across a you know,
an international pedophile sex ring.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
It just wasn't gonna happen. Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I was going to bring up a kind of vague
philosophical theme about the modern world. Don't really have time
to get into it now, but.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Has to do.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
And I can't get into specifics in my little world. Really,
You'll have to forgive me for that for now. But
a friend of mine characterized kind of a mood as
the slime from the Ghostbusters movies, the original Ghostbuster, the
(34:45):
early eighties, classic early eighties, like eighties three, when was
that out? Anyway, you may recall that when all the
ghosts were running wild in New York City, one of
the things they did was like spread this green slime
around ghost The effect it had was not just you know,
green slime is effect enough, ick, but but it caused
(35:07):
New Yorkers to be angry and disagreeable and turn on
each other. And we're discussing a very local context and
also the angst and not happiness of youth, and the
fact that incumbents all over the developed world are getting
(35:28):
tossed out of office, and the parties that have been
fairly stable and in power, you know, they switch places
now and again, but they're just getting tossed aside, there
is a near global feeling of angst and unhappiness that
I don't ever recall before true.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
That what do we do with this information? To do
about it?
Speaker 3 (35:51):
We get used to it, do we settle into some
or it just keeps getting worse by heroin and machine
guns on the internet, like we're discussing earlier, Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
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