July 14, 2025 • 35 mins
Hour 1 of A&G features...
- The Epstein list & the Ukraine announcement
- Katie Green's Headlines!
- Government accountability & the Secret Service
- Mailbag!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong, Joe Katty, I'm strong and
Jettie and he armstrong and yet I'm from Studio C.
(00:25):
A brand new week, pregnant with possibilities. This could be
the week it all comes together. So finally, are you
meet missus Raikes or mister.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Art.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Could be the week that a former mister and missus
Wright tells you I need to talk hope or you
get fireway you don't know. See, that's what's exciting about
a brand new week. You know what's most likely? This week?
Just another stinking week of the same stuff. Answered to
the man exactly another week answer to the van. Uh Hi,
(00:56):
how y'all doing? Dimly lit room? You put the in
the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. And today, to kick
off the week, we are under the tutelage of our
general manager. Surprise general manager today Jack J. D Vance.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Why because he's got the snappy Internet come back of
the year.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Okay, I haven't heard that. I assumed he must have
the Epstein list since that seems to be the most
important story in America. I know it's we need a
show policy. Do we care about the Epstein thing or not?
What's the show we need? We need a white paper. Well,
if one of us a list, if one of us
(01:35):
are on the list, quite confident, I am not a
curious Curiously enough, it's Katie Green that's on the list. Well,
we might not be interested in the Holy Cow what,
we might not be interested in the Epstein list, But
are we interested in the interest in the Epstein list.
That's where I am. That's pretty interesting right there. You're
(01:57):
interested in the people who are interested in the Epstein list.
They continue to interest interests me because I had no interest.
Well I had some interest, but no remaining interest in
the original topic. They led with it on ABC this
Week yesterday to my surprise, and I kind of figured
out because they led with it on A Morning Joe Today,
on MSNBC's some news outlets. It's just it's just their
(02:17):
latest hammer to use in trying to talk bad about
the Trump administration. So it's their favorite. Look, how stupid
these people are. The whole Maggog world is so stupid.
So I think that's mostly their interest. It's not getting
to the bottom of whatever it is people think they're
getting to the bottom of that. I haven't quite grasped well, although,
(02:39):
well it depends. We've got Tucker Carlson laying it all
out for you. He gave a speech over the weekend
where he, you know, he connected the dots. He lays
out exactly what the Epstein thing is all about. And
it's a mostly Israel. Wait what Yeah, Israel's control and
the whole thing. That's why Trump has to dance to
(02:59):
the net And Yaho's got all the information and he'll
release it and that'll do in Trump and Bongino and
Pam Bondi and the whole government and everyone all Hollywood.
So we have to dance to Israel's tune. That why
else would we support Israel? Not just because they're a
democracy and a friend and all these things. Now it's
got to be the Epstein list.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Seems odd and ill advised that that same fellow Tucker
Carlson addressed the convention. If he believes now that the
entire administration is corrupt, perverse and in the pocket of Israel,
seems like an odd pairing.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, I don't know. Megan Kelly, harsh critic of Pam Bondi,
the Attorney General, and how she's got to step down
if she's I mean, she got to go one way
or the other, either produce a list or resign. Mostly
for us this really not because she cares about Epstein,
but mostly from the You claimed you had it, and
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you either have it or you don't. And if you
claimed you have it and it doesn't exist, you got
to go because you're a phony. You're not if you're
not really about being attorney general.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I would agree certainly a would be Trumpian showman while
being attorney general, which I think is a bad mix.
You know, I don't have any problem with the modern
you know, hyperbolic show busy politics. I don't like it,
but I understand it's here to stay. But I don't
need it, say, out of my cardiologist. I don't need
(04:23):
it out of like I don't know a marriage counselor
the you know, I'm big and bold and brash and provocative,
and I don't need it out of my attorney general.
I want somebody boring and studious, more Bill bar like. Yeah,
and I've been impressed by Pam Bondi. I've touted her
as a big person on the scene these days, but
(04:47):
just no, no, sometimes no.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So to me, the most interesting thing going on will
happen during our show. Trump is going to announce whatever.
His big announcement is that he's been teasing for many
days since Friday about you, and it's going to be sanctions,
and it's going to be weapons. According to Axios, a
lot of weapons systems, defensive end weapons that are primarily offensive,
(05:10):
like rockets you could shoot as far as Russia that
they haven't been supplied with in the past. And then
everybody's talking about going after this ton of money that
was seized right when the war started that's just been
sitting in an account and originally talk was of using
the interest off these it three hundred billion dollars. It's
a lot of money. So just the the interest on
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it is a ton of money in freeing that up
to support Ukraine. And then others are talking about just
grab the three hundred billion, use that they don't get
it back, screw them. Yeah, so looking forward to chatting
about that. Yeah, that's a fan of irony.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I gotta admit I love the idea of using the
interest on the money to buy weapons for Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
But we can chat about that. Yeah, we should start
because that fits in with the opening clip, I'm Jack Armstrong,
He's Joe Getty on this it is It's Monday, like
I said, pregnant with host Building July the fourteenth, the
year twenty twenty five, where I'm strong and getting We
approve of this program.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
When do I pay off the snappy comeback of the year.
Oh no, maybe to kick off next segment, or I
could do it right here. Let's just do it right here.
Let's not make people wait for their infotainment, their intormation.
So the Internet became aware that Jade Vans and his
wife had brought their kids to Disneyland in California, and.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Gov.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Gav Gavin Newsom becomes aware of this, and as he
is hotter for the Oval office than a teenage boy
is for female companionship, he took to the Internet.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
With his outrage and his advocacy.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Hope you enjoy your family time, jd Vance. The families
you're tearing apart certainly won't. Referring to the infamous immigration raids.
Jd Vance's online comeback had a great time. Thanks, that's it,
that's it. I love that that should happen more often. Yeah, yeah, no,
(07:03):
I don't care about you, or respect you enough to
like really respond, had any time?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Thanks love that the understatement of it. All Right, let's
begin the show now officially according to FCC rules and regulations.
Leaping into action at mark.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I am very disappointed with President Putin. I thought he
was somebody that meant what he.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Said and you'll talk so beautifully and then I'll bomb
people at night. We don't like that. Did he surprise
a lot of people? Did he surprise anyone on planet Earth?
But you no? And were you actually surprised? There are three.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Choices here, and big Trump fans, I will let you
supply choice number three because I don't know how to
phrase it exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Choice A.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Trump is just ignorant of Vladimir Putin and his history
and his goal can't.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Be be Trump is an idiot. No, definitely not see
Trump was trying to dot dot dot. Yeah. I think
Trump was trying to He's worked with a lot of uh,
He's done deals with a lot of creepy people in
his life, and he acted like he respected him and
liked him and got him to do things he wanted
(08:18):
to do. When building a you know, uh, a giant
hotel or whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Worked with many gangsters in New York who can be
real cutthroat fellas.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And he acted like they were all friends and was
able to make a deal with them. I think that's
what it is. I don't know why he goes out
saying things like Putin surprised a lot of people by
turning out to not be a nice guy. Okay, if
you say.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
So, But that gets to being he's got to be
just ignorant of Putin, because I mean Putin and I
know this.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You know this. Anybody who's into geopolitics knows this.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Putin harnesses a dozen of those mob bosses and makes
them pull his sleigh in the wintertime, and he puts
the whip to them.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Okay, yeah, I don't know. I suppose it doesn't matter ultimately,
since in my mind Trump has come around to the
correct side on this and sure enough, just very happy
about that. I'll just live with that. Yep.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Just keep getting rid of the woke stuff, and then
we'll figure out the foreign policies as where you go.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And in the last seven days, Russia has launched eighteen
hundred drones, twelve hundred guided aerial bombs, eighty three missiles.
According to President Zelensky. I mean, it was the most
attacky week of the entire war last week when he
got off the phone with Trump and claimed he was,
(09:47):
you know, working on a peace deal or whatever. So again,
Trump's going to announce while we're on the air today
what exactly he's going to do about that. And Lindsey
Graham on the talk shows yesterday said, oh wait till monday.
He said, I don't want to get out in front
of this. I know it's gonna be it's gonna be big, though,
so stand by, and uh my soul specifically said India, Brazil,
(10:07):
and China are really going to be unhappy because there
are days of buying cheap Russian oil are over. So
China and Brazil who cares? So we hate China. I
don't know when we think of Brazil. But India isn't
supposed to end. Aren't they a front of me? They
were coming our way? I don't know anyway, So we
got lots to talk about. We got Katie's headlines dropped
(10:28):
my son off at this big Boy Scout camp yesterday.
But there were some interesting things occurred there. I want
to talk about lots today. What do we we used
to say, I don't remember when we we used to
aways see another stinking wink of answering to the man,
I don't remember how we worked that into the show
e years ago. Logans, Welcome to another stinking week. Answer
to the man?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
What do?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
What is?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Start your day? Anyway? Lots of the ways stay here.
Here's my most charitable view briefly of Trump's thing was
he was gonna go to a ridiculous extent to try
to make a deal with Putin, thinking that it probably
won't work. And when it doesn't work and we make
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the turn, we're going to be in it for a
very long time, and it's going to be a very
big deal, and that will be you know, we'll be on.
I'm going to put that off. I'm going to try
everything possible to avoid that. But it didn't work. That's
the most charitable thing I can come up with. If
you are focused.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
On what is done as opposed to what is said,
which I think is a healthy way to go.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I get that that's a good strategy as you described
it just but he says though that man, I was
shocked by Putin.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
He talks pretty but then he come on, he surprised
a lot of people. He surprised nobody. Nobody.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, wow, Wow, Okay, A lot to talk about today.
Let's get into it. Let's figure out who's reporting what.
It's Lee's story with Katie Green. Katie hit it already.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Let's start with CNN. EU warns that it's trade with.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
The United States could effectively be wiped out if Trump
follows through on his thirty percent tariff threat.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah. I gotta admit I mostly ignore this story. I
just because I don't know what to do with it. Well,
it just seems like every verse is same as the first.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Could get better, but it's good to get worse, as
the old Brian goes, I don't Well, We've got some
good audio for various of Trump's handyman trying to explain
the strategy.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
We'll play that for you in a little bit.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
USA today, Trump says FBI's Dan Bongino is quote in
good shape, amid Jeffrey Epstein probe fallout.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, so, Chris Christie said on ABC this week, and
then I've heardered other people echo it that there's no way.
Pam Bondi and Bongino have come out and said, look,
there's no list. There's nothing here without Trump's direction, and
that's why Trump's coming out and then supporting them, because
they're doing what he told them to do.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
At the very least, they told him that that is
the case, and he said, fine, tell everybody.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
From the Wall Street Journal how China's military is flexing
its power in the Pacific.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, I saw that. I was thinking of bringing it
to the show.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
But it's a heavily visual article, but it's it's unquestionable
China is trying to push outward and unlike you know,
the US that patrols the seas just to make sure
everybody's observing the laws of the sea and navigation is
fine and trade's going on. No, China does it for
belligerent reasons to take land and take control of areas.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
From ABC, Texas flooding search continues, one hundred and thirty
confirmed dead.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Have you seen the cars that were buried? Figuring out
how those people actually died? Oh my god, no, that
was something. Yeah, so they're starting to figure out where
did you know everybody go that? And you find just
like the a car on its side, like here's a
rear view mirror. You keep digging in there and then
the whole car is underneath there. Wow full they.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Head massive flash flooding over the weekend. Yeah, it's obviously
set back to search for you know, victims.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
From Wired dot com. McDonald's AI hiring bought exposed millions
of applicants data to hackers.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
They called this thing the mc higher All right, it's okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
If it is online, it can be hacked, and it
will be hacked if.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
It hasn't already been hacked.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Well, speaking of hacked from Breitbart dot com, Elmo goes
full Nazi and hacked social media posts.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Elmo has a Twitter.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Somebody hacked Elmo's Twitter page and he started calling for
everyone to kill the Jews.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It was.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Elmo and Grock, both of them.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Nike say, Grover has got to slap some sense into
that little fella.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
From the New York Post.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Angry Kanye West fans chant for refunds at Shanghai show
quote worst concert ever?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Really, you went to Kanye's concert expecting it to be normal? Okay, yeah, right,
good point. In what specific way did it go? Sideway?
Do we know?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
It started with him being forty minutes late and then
the crowd he pissed the crowd off to start with,
and then it was just a really bizarre show.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And they said the sound was bad. Everything was bad.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Hey, finally from the Babylon b CNN marks one year
anniversary of Trump falling down after loud popping noises.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, yeah, how was a year ago yesterday, So gonna
be a lot of anniversaries this week. It'll be the
one year anniversary tomorrow when he walked into the arena
where we were in Milwaukee without white bandage on his
ear and everybody cheered, and all the craziness of those
couple of weeks. Holy crap. Can't even hardly believe it
even really happened. The whole thing. They were handing out
(16:18):
souvenir ear bandages to everyone right right, right right for
a cup of coffee. That was the thing to have
abandoned dog in your ear and support. I didn't join
in with that, so you're not maga. We got a
lot of the news of the day to get to.
There's some good stuff around immigration. Some congress people visiting
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al alligator Alcatraz and were horrified by it, you know,
the Democrats were, anyway, But of course a bunch of
other stuff Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
You have released an accountability report. We've had a look
at it, and it details that assets were requested by
the Secret Service, including requests made over the phone, and
they were denied. You also say that the former Secret
Service director made false claims under oath when Kimberly Cheatle
said there were no denials, was she misled or are
(17:14):
you accusing her of lying?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
She did not tell the truth.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
She said that there were no assets that were requested advanced.
We found at least four occasions, actually maybe five occasions
where requests were made.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It's obviously the voice of Senator Ran Paul, who's the
chair of the Homeland Security Committee in the Senate, which
for some reason was surprising to me. Anyway, he said
that Cheatle, who was running the Secret Service at the
time a year ago when Trump was nearly killed, lied
under oath to Congress. She came out and strongly denied
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that yesterday.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
The only possible defense I could come up with for
her was that that sort of denial has decided below
her level, and she was never told about it, but
you certainly think she would have heard about it. In
the incore post near apocalyptic assassination. So yeah, yeah, Ran
Paul on faced the nation. Their whole report is done,
(18:11):
now their hearings are done. Apparently, why don't we play
another clip or two before I comment?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
But next one, Michael.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
The primary request that was made by both Trump's Secret
Service detail as well as his campaign was for counter snipers.
Counter snipers were denied until Butler. So thank god on
that day in Butler County, Pennsylvania, that was the first
time he was allowed counter snipers. If he had not
had counter snipers, that assassin.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Would have popped up again.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
He did pop up again to continue firing, and that's
when he was taken out. But thank god we had
the counter snipers there. But why were they denied for
months and months? When they finally did ask for him,
they mysteriously magically appeared. They found him where they needed
They just weren't trying hard enough.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I'm not conspiracy guy, but when you take that and
combine it with the egregious, still incomprehensible failure to secure
a line of sight rooftop, you gotta think there are
people who thought, you.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Know, if he gets shot, that would take care of
the problem. But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I'm not saying that's true. But if you're of that bent,
I don't have a great counter.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Argument for you. Yeah, I'm not willing to go there.
But I'm surprised that. I mean, I have known nothing
of what I talk here, which makes me perfectly qualified
to be a talk show host. But I was just
surprised that you don't normally have counter snipers when a
guy who's former president likely to be the next president
is speaking outdoors. Yeah, I just I'm surprised that that's
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not just a regular thing. Yeah, me too, Me too.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Just to finish my previous thought, I remember at the
time saying virtually this were for word. My only counter
argument to the conspiracy theorist types is oh no, no, no,
the Supreme the Supreme Court. The Secret Service is this
incompetent that they will leave a rooftop with direct line
of sight to a presidential candidate unsecured.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Time. And that's it's hard to believe the reporting from
a sources. Ultimately it's a Secret Services responsibility, I suppose,
But the very close knowledge from a source is that
you coordinate with local law enforcement and hope they do
what you ask them to do. The Secret Service cannot
order people around. They can just ask and the local police.
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Butler police were supposed to secure that building, and they
decided it was too hot outside to be up on
that roof, so they didn't. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
If that is the case the vision I think most
Americans have of the incredibly secure perimeter around the president
or presidential candidates, even that's fantasy, it's not. It's conditional
on whether it's hot out or not lovely. Well, if
you're hoping for accountability, you're going to go away disappointed.
(21:09):
One more clip at least, Michael. So it was a
cascade of errors. It was just one error after another.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
When we talked to the people in charge of security,
everybody pointed a finger at someone else.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
We said, who was responsible for that roof?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
The roof of the assassin lay with a direct sideline.
Nobody wanted responsibility. Everybody said it with somebody else. There
was plenty of time to take him off the stage.
The suspicious person with a rangefinder who became the shooter.
Many times he was spotted by police with suspicion. That
should have been enough to take the president off the stage.
(21:44):
Even with him on the roof. There was about a
three minute period when he could have been taken from
the stage, and yet no one was fired. Some of
these people could be in charge of security for another
presidential candidate, and really that's a danger that some one
of the people that we're in charge at Butler could
be in charge.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Again, that's not right. Yeah, darn it the whole everybody
blames somebody else and nobody ever gets fired. Thing is
the biggest problem anytime you have one of these government investigations.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And Ran Paul with a timely reminder of again what
we discussed at the time, that this guy was seen
multiple times identified as a suspicious character up on the roof,
had a sighting device, I mean, and the president just
went ahead and took the stage and talked for some
time as everybody's saying, there's some weirdo on the roof
with a direct line of side at the president, and
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nobody thought, you know, why don't we say, hey, there's
a technical problem.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I just it's it's well, it's disillusioning.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Did Rand Paul get to it at any point? Because
I didn't see that interview. I wish I had. I
should have watched that one instead of one about tariffs.
But did Rand Paul to get to any place where
he believes it's less likely to happen in the future,
or is it just as likely to happen in the future.
You know, that's an interesting question. I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
There was certainly an implied we're working like crazy to
clean up the mess in the Secret Service. He mentions
that there wasn't really any disciplinary action until after they
subpoenaed for information.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
And we'll go ahead and play eighty three. Michael.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
So when you say someone's not telling the truth, is
it that there was no record of requests in denials?
Was this knowingly misleading Congress or was this like a
culture of cover up within the agency?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I think it was a cultural cover up for the agency.
They did not want to assess playing, they did not
want to look internally, and they wanted to discount any
of their actions that might have led to this. This
was a covery or ass sort of moment.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And I do believe that they did know.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
There's no way that the Director of Secret Service that
she did not know that these requests have been made.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And so yes, it was a huge failure.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
This is a fairly standard situation in government too, where
and I'm not criticizing ran Paul because I think he's
really trying to get to the.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Bottom of it.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
But what I just heard there was, well, there was
a rotten egg in the cart and Aaron we've gotten
read of her. So everything's fine now. But the culture
of Cya does that remain? Have we looked into the
relationship between the Secret Service and local law enforcement, which
I that makes perfect sense to me. They cannot, you know,
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command a deputy sheriff to go do something.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
It's a good point. So is that good enough? And
what do we think of it? And Netta Yahoo hinted
that you know, this kid was part of an Iranian plot.
There's no evidence of that whatsoever. It's I think it's worse.
I don't know. If you read the articles that came
out over the weekend about the crook, is that his name,
the want to Be Assassin? Any of the articles about
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him and his family and everything like it, very dysfunctional
family and all kinds of strangeness, strangeness in his life.
I think it makes it worse that it's not an
Iranian plot or some high level, complicated, three dimensional chess
sort of plan, that just a random weirdo kid who,
(25:21):
for strange reasons things he wants to kill the president
could almost pull it off. Is worse than if it
were an Iranian plot. Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah,
sloppy idiot.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Eh. Oh, thank god the bullet missed. You know, if
you don't believe in God, well that's a hell of
a good break.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah. And so then, you know, it makes it easier
to look back on previous assassinations or failures like happened
October seventh in Israel or whatever, and just realize, yeah,
a cascading series of failures can happen sometimes and you
end up with a result like that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
The one thing I learned from talking to a high
placed military source is the incredible importance of redundancies in systems,
where if System A goes out, specifically in this case
it was for communication, you have to have system B
and system C, and everybody has to be on the
same page of when and how you go from one
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thing to the other to the other, because it is
moment to moment life or death in the military. But
it seems to me like in the case of October seventh,
you know, if somebody was on vacation or it was
the sabbath so his phone was off or whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
There was no Okay, we go to plan B. There
is no Plan B. And the idea that.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
You just ask the sheriff's deputy is if they could
please secure that building. And just that there's no second
layer of accountabilities is bothersome to me. Again, given up
with it, given that we all have assumed that it's ironclads,
it's world leading. You can't get near the president. Yeah,
unless you're a twenty year old ne'er do well who
just wants to be famous or something and.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Takes practically the easiest shot in the whole area, just
climbs up there and lays there with a rifle. I know.
It's just astounding, and it can't he can't. Like you said,
it can't be. We asked them to and they didn't.
There's got to be another.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Layer of some aw shocks those dumb local guys.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And whatever it costs will unfunded. I guess. Yeah, yeah, man,
oh man, oh man. Okay, Well that's unsatisfying, as.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
As is almost not almost every investigation and any government
failure I can think of in my lifetime, the investigation
is always completely unsatisfying.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Blame a building.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And if you can find well, if you can find
a person to blame, blame that person, put the goat's
horns on him and run him out of town as
if that solved the problem. And if you can't find
that person, you blame the building, and you just.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Hope that it doesn't happen again. Uh nearly kill the
president or a financial meltdown for the entire world or
whatever you know you want to want it to be.
You just hope it doesn't happen again. God dang it,
that's frustrating. If you have any thoughts on that, we'd
like to hear him. Text line is four one five
two nine five KFTC. We've got a mail bag on
(28:17):
the way. I want to play that Tucker Carlson stuff
where he lays out what some of you believe is
going on with the Epstein files. It's uh, it's pretty
nutty in my opinion, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
So to stay here. Are you into the teddy bear
wrapped in human skin story? I'm aware of it. Found
(28:40):
in California sidewalk. You've really out to warn people for you,
you know, I want to get people's attention. You got
to cut through the clutter. It's hard today. Done, so
we'll get to that story a little bit later. Great Scott,
if i'd kind of put that out of my mind. Yeah, yeah.
(29:03):
So here's my favorite headline. I'll lead you into. Uh
mailbik Ellen DeGeneres supports Rosy O'Donnell as Donald Trump threatens
to strip her US citizenship. Forgot this. Trump was threatening
to take Rosee o'donald's citizenship.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
A buddy of mine who I played golf with, OK,
who's very pro Trump. He's like Donald, No, No, here's
the president.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Hi. Cut on.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
But here's your freedom loving quote of the day from
the Great Thomas Sowell, continuing on our series of his brilliance.
This is one of his Mount Rushmore quotes. It's tough
to pick one of his anyway. It is hard to
imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making
decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of
(29:58):
people who pay no no price for being wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Hmm. That's a good one. Amen to that. Thomas mailbag.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Drops no bailback at Armstrong and Geeddy dot com. Is
the email addressed? Keep it shortish If he can bless
you know you're a great writer with an amazing experience
and brilliant insights.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Then they stretch.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Out a little bit be rights. Hello fellas Bury from Thailand.
Here yesterday, being the anniversary of the attempted Trump assassination,
I'm reminded of how little we've discovered about the shooter
and his family is. Eric Trump commented, this guy was
cremated quicker than a family pet.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I don't think there's much to discover. Honestly, I don't
think either.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I mean, if a crazed, miserable loaner who craves attention
will slaughter a room full of innocent little children, one
would certainly take a pot shot at a presidential candidate.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
We've talked easy math for me. We've talked about this
a lot. One of the reasons conspiracies like this can
grow is it's tough for us to wrap our heads
around the idea of just some average local dope could
change world history. We don't like that, right, so we
prefer to believe there's much bigger forces involved.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
And Barry includes a haikuda mark the occasion, and for
once in my life, I'm refusing to read a hike
Wow look at you with your restraint. Ryan from Houston,
Dear Big Freedom and old simple Jack. Gavin Newsom AOC
and many Democrats decry the ice raids, but I never
seem to hear what they want our immigration laws to be.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Well, nobody forces them to say.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
We can't continue to have a semi open border and
have people sneak in too, be in legal limbo by
being illegally in the country, but nobody enforcing the laws.
So I'd like to know, Gavin Newsom and others, what
are your immigration laws?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
What should they be? I do have, though, a friend
of a friend account of somebody who's been trying to
do it the right way for years and who got
grabbed up, and and it's just that's it's not good
at all. Yeah, So we'll get to that a little
bit later. I mean, we can't be doing that.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
It is horrifying and almost hilarious that that very question,
really of both sides, combined with why haven't you done
it yet, is never asked in this discussion. Reams of coverage,
hours and hours of the talking heads, and nobody says,
all right, what should the laws be?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Then?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
How do we enforce them? I mean It's like it
doesn't even occur to people to ask the question enough
to make you shake your head on the top of
your pocket fork. Jack A.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Money writes Jack should ditch the bush League pocket fork
and go pro. He should have a custom holster for
his fork made so he can wear it as a
side arm when he approaches something like a bakery counter
and a supermarketer or a buffet with his hand just
above the holster fork showing he's ready to draw people
in line would know they better just step aside.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I've got the pocket fork right here. This is where
I took it out of my pocket and decided I'm
not carrying around a fork anymore. Yeah, there's a major
step forward for me. And it's been sitting right here
for quite some time. A four. If you weren't listening
at the time, I kept in my pocket so that
I could like stop at a grocery store, get pie,
walk out and eat it in the parking lot in
my car. And Imani wants you to go in the
(33:20):
other direction with like a custom made fork in a holster.
But no, no, okay, fair enough, let's see Garrick and
Davis writes, Jack's head will explode if he watches the
new Superman. Oh really, I watched the new Jurassic Park.
I'll have to talk about that later.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Okay, I'll keep it as short as I can without
big spoilers. I'm gonna skip mostly most of it. It's crazy,
how off the wall, goofy and stupid this movie really is.
Director James Gunn took what everyone knows about Superman, he
can fly, his powers, his suit, then basically just wrote
his own character and universe, so took the very very
(33:58):
basis of the character than just completely reinvented the thing.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It's a gamble. That's fine.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
It's not like it's the Book of Genesis. It's a
comic book carrier. Somebody came up within the thirties or whatever.
I just I don't worry about that much. And Jared
in Missouri actually makes pretty good to point about the
Superman movie because the story was according to some that
the movies kind of woke in his story about it,
your brave immigrant blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I've heard this so many times and then seen the movies,
and it's bulls.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I wish I could say the word, yeah, it's a
tiny percentage of blown up way out of proportion, and yeah,
but Jared actually makes this point which I liked.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
This can so easily be flipped.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Superman is a success story about an immigrant who integrated
in the American culture.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
He loved his new home and used.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
His success to give back and fight for truth, justice
in the American way.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Perfect or you cannot think about politics at all when
you go to movies like this, which would be a
good idea. So you wanted Hillary to win and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong, Joe Katty, I'm strong and
Jettie and he armstrong and yet I'm from Studio C.
(00:25):
A brand new week, pregnant with possibilities. This could be
the week it all comes together. So finally, are you
meet missus Raikes or mister.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Art.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Could be the week that a former mister and missus
Wright tells you I need to talk hope or you
get fireway you don't know. See, that's what's exciting about
a brand new week. You know what's most likely? This week?
Just another stinking week of the same stuff. Answered to
the man exactly another week answer to the van. Uh Hi,
(00:56):
how y'all doing? Dimly lit room? You put the in
the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. And today, to kick
off the week, we are under the tutelage of our
general manager. Surprise general manager today Jack J. D Vance.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Why because he's got the snappy Internet come back of
the year.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Okay, I haven't heard that. I assumed he must have
the Epstein list since that seems to be the most
important story in America. I know it's we need a
show policy. Do we care about the Epstein thing or not?
What's the show we need? We need a white paper. Well,
if one of us a list, if one of us
(01:35):
are on the list, quite confident, I am not a
curious Curiously enough, it's Katie Green that's on the list. Well,
we might not be interested in the Holy Cow what,
we might not be interested in the Epstein list, But
are we interested in the interest in the Epstein list.
That's where I am. That's pretty interesting right there. You're
(01:57):
interested in the people who are interested in the Epstein list.
They continue to interest interests me because I had no interest.
Well I had some interest, but no remaining interest in
the original topic. They led with it on ABC this
Week yesterday to my surprise, and I kind of figured
out because they led with it on A Morning Joe Today,
on MSNBC's some news outlets. It's just it's just their
(02:17):
latest hammer to use in trying to talk bad about
the Trump administration. So it's their favorite. Look, how stupid
these people are. The whole Maggog world is so stupid.
So I think that's mostly their interest. It's not getting
to the bottom of whatever it is people think they're
getting to the bottom of that. I haven't quite grasped well, although,
(02:39):
well it depends. We've got Tucker Carlson laying it all
out for you. He gave a speech over the weekend
where he, you know, he connected the dots. He lays
out exactly what the Epstein thing is all about. And
it's a mostly Israel. Wait what Yeah, Israel's control and
the whole thing. That's why Trump has to dance to
(02:59):
the net And Yaho's got all the information and he'll
release it and that'll do in Trump and Bongino and
Pam Bondi and the whole government and everyone all Hollywood.
So we have to dance to Israel's tune. That why
else would we support Israel? Not just because they're a
democracy and a friend and all these things. Now it's
got to be the Epstein list.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Seems odd and ill advised that that same fellow Tucker
Carlson addressed the convention. If he believes now that the
entire administration is corrupt, perverse and in the pocket of Israel,
seems like an odd pairing.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, I don't know. Megan Kelly, harsh critic of Pam Bondi,
the Attorney General, and how she's got to step down
if she's I mean, she got to go one way
or the other, either produce a list or resign. Mostly
for us this really not because she cares about Epstein,
but mostly from the You claimed you had it, and
(03:54):
you either have it or you don't. And if you
claimed you have it and it doesn't exist, you got
to go because you're a phony. You're not if you're
not really about being attorney general.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I would agree certainly a would be Trumpian showman while
being attorney general, which I think is a bad mix.
You know, I don't have any problem with the modern
you know, hyperbolic show busy politics. I don't like it,
but I understand it's here to stay. But I don't
need it, say, out of my cardiologist. I don't need
(04:23):
it out of like I don't know a marriage counselor
the you know, I'm big and bold and brash and provocative,
and I don't need it out of my attorney general.
I want somebody boring and studious, more Bill bar like. Yeah,
and I've been impressed by Pam Bondi. I've touted her
as a big person on the scene these days, but
(04:47):
just no, no, sometimes no.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So to me, the most interesting thing going on will
happen during our show. Trump is going to announce whatever.
His big announcement is that he's been teasing for many
days since Friday about you, and it's going to be sanctions,
and it's going to be weapons. According to Axios, a
lot of weapons systems, defensive end weapons that are primarily offensive,
(05:10):
like rockets you could shoot as far as Russia that
they haven't been supplied with in the past. And then
everybody's talking about going after this ton of money that
was seized right when the war started that's just been
sitting in an account and originally talk was of using
the interest off these it three hundred billion dollars. It's
a lot of money. So just the the interest on
(05:32):
it is a ton of money in freeing that up
to support Ukraine. And then others are talking about just
grab the three hundred billion, use that they don't get
it back, screw them. Yeah, so looking forward to chatting
about that. Yeah, that's a fan of irony.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I gotta admit I love the idea of using the
interest on the money to buy weapons for Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
But we can chat about that. Yeah, we should start
because that fits in with the opening clip, I'm Jack Armstrong,
He's Joe Getty on this it is It's Monday, like
I said, pregnant with host Building July the fourteenth, the
year twenty twenty five, where I'm strong and getting We
approve of this program.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
When do I pay off the snappy comeback of the year.
Oh no, maybe to kick off next segment, or I
could do it right here. Let's just do it right here.
Let's not make people wait for their infotainment, their intormation.
So the Internet became aware that Jade Vans and his
wife had brought their kids to Disneyland in California, and.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Gov.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Gav Gavin Newsom becomes aware of this, and as he
is hotter for the Oval office than a teenage boy
is for female companionship, he took to the Internet.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
With his outrage and his advocacy.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Hope you enjoy your family time, jd Vance. The families
you're tearing apart certainly won't. Referring to the infamous immigration raids.
Jd Vance's online comeback had a great time. Thanks, that's it,
that's it. I love that that should happen more often. Yeah, yeah, no,
(07:03):
I don't care about you, or respect you enough to
like really respond, had any time?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Thanks love that the understatement of it. All Right, let's
begin the show now officially according to FCC rules and regulations.
Leaping into action at mark.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I am very disappointed with President Putin. I thought he
was somebody that meant what he.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Said and you'll talk so beautifully and then I'll bomb
people at night. We don't like that. Did he surprise
a lot of people? Did he surprise anyone on planet Earth?
But you no? And were you actually surprised? There are three.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Choices here, and big Trump fans, I will let you
supply choice number three because I don't know how to
phrase it exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Choice A.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Trump is just ignorant of Vladimir Putin and his history
and his goal can't.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Be be Trump is an idiot. No, definitely not see
Trump was trying to dot dot dot. Yeah. I think
Trump was trying to He's worked with a lot of uh,
He's done deals with a lot of creepy people in
his life, and he acted like he respected him and
liked him and got him to do things he wanted
(08:18):
to do. When building a you know, uh, a giant
hotel or whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Worked with many gangsters in New York who can be
real cutthroat fellas.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And he acted like they were all friends and was
able to make a deal with them. I think that's
what it is. I don't know why he goes out
saying things like Putin surprised a lot of people by
turning out to not be a nice guy. Okay, if
you say.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
So, But that gets to being he's got to be
just ignorant of Putin, because I mean Putin and I
know this.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You know this. Anybody who's into geopolitics knows this.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Putin harnesses a dozen of those mob bosses and makes
them pull his sleigh in the wintertime, and he puts
the whip to them.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Okay, yeah, I don't know. I suppose it doesn't matter ultimately,
since in my mind Trump has come around to the
correct side on this and sure enough, just very happy
about that. I'll just live with that. Yep.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Just keep getting rid of the woke stuff, and then
we'll figure out the foreign policies as where you go.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And in the last seven days, Russia has launched eighteen
hundred drones, twelve hundred guided aerial bombs, eighty three missiles.
According to President Zelensky. I mean, it was the most
attacky week of the entire war last week when he
got off the phone with Trump and claimed he was,
(09:47):
you know, working on a peace deal or whatever. So again,
Trump's going to announce while we're on the air today
what exactly he's going to do about that. And Lindsey
Graham on the talk shows yesterday said, oh wait till monday.
He said, I don't want to get out in front
of this. I know it's gonna be it's gonna be big, though,
so stand by, and uh my soul specifically said India, Brazil,
(10:07):
and China are really going to be unhappy because there
are days of buying cheap Russian oil are over. So
China and Brazil who cares? So we hate China. I
don't know when we think of Brazil. But India isn't
supposed to end. Aren't they a front of me? They
were coming our way? I don't know anyway, So we
got lots to talk about. We got Katie's headlines dropped
(10:28):
my son off at this big Boy Scout camp yesterday.
But there were some interesting things occurred there. I want
to talk about lots today. What do we we used
to say, I don't remember when we we used to
aways see another stinking wink of answering to the man,
I don't remember how we worked that into the show
e years ago. Logans, Welcome to another stinking week. Answer
to the man?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
What do?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
What is?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Start your day? Anyway? Lots of the ways stay here.
Here's my most charitable view briefly of Trump's thing was
he was gonna go to a ridiculous extent to try
to make a deal with Putin, thinking that it probably
won't work. And when it doesn't work and we make
(11:12):
the turn, we're going to be in it for a
very long time, and it's going to be a very
big deal, and that will be you know, we'll be on.
I'm going to put that off. I'm going to try
everything possible to avoid that. But it didn't work. That's
the most charitable thing I can come up with. If
you are focused.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
On what is done as opposed to what is said,
which I think is a healthy way to go.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I get that that's a good strategy as you described
it just but he says though that man, I was
shocked by Putin.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
He talks pretty but then he come on, he surprised
a lot of people. He surprised nobody. Nobody.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, wow, Wow, Okay, A lot to talk about today.
Let's get into it. Let's figure out who's reporting what.
It's Lee's story with Katie Green. Katie hit it already.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Let's start with CNN. EU warns that it's trade with.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
The United States could effectively be wiped out if Trump
follows through on his thirty percent tariff threat.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah. I gotta admit I mostly ignore this story. I
just because I don't know what to do with it. Well,
it just seems like every verse is same as the first.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Could get better, but it's good to get worse, as
the old Brian goes, I don't Well, We've got some
good audio for various of Trump's handyman trying to explain
the strategy.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
We'll play that for you in a little bit.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
USA today, Trump says FBI's Dan Bongino is quote in
good shape, amid Jeffrey Epstein probe fallout.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, so, Chris Christie said on ABC this week, and
then I've heardered other people echo it that there's no way.
Pam Bondi and Bongino have come out and said, look,
there's no list. There's nothing here without Trump's direction, and
that's why Trump's coming out and then supporting them, because
they're doing what he told them to do.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
At the very least, they told him that that is
the case, and he said, fine, tell everybody.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
From the Wall Street Journal how China's military is flexing
its power in the Pacific.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, I saw that. I was thinking of bringing it
to the show.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
But it's a heavily visual article, but it's it's unquestionable
China is trying to push outward and unlike you know,
the US that patrols the seas just to make sure
everybody's observing the laws of the sea and navigation is
fine and trade's going on. No, China does it for
belligerent reasons to take land and take control of areas.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
From ABC, Texas flooding search continues, one hundred and thirty
confirmed dead.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Have you seen the cars that were buried? Figuring out
how those people actually died? Oh my god, no, that
was something. Yeah, so they're starting to figure out where
did you know everybody go that? And you find just
like the a car on its side, like here's a
rear view mirror. You keep digging in there and then
the whole car is underneath there. Wow full they.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Head massive flash flooding over the weekend. Yeah, it's obviously
set back to search for you know, victims.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
From Wired dot com. McDonald's AI hiring bought exposed millions
of applicants data to hackers.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
They called this thing the mc higher All right, it's okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
If it is online, it can be hacked, and it
will be hacked if.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
It hasn't already been hacked.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Well, speaking of hacked from Breitbart dot com, Elmo goes
full Nazi and hacked social media posts.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Elmo has a Twitter.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Somebody hacked Elmo's Twitter page and he started calling for
everyone to kill the Jews.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It was.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Elmo and Grock, both of them.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Nike say, Grover has got to slap some sense into
that little fella.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
From the New York Post.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Angry Kanye West fans chant for refunds at Shanghai show
quote worst concert ever?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Really, you went to Kanye's concert expecting it to be normal? Okay, yeah, right,
good point. In what specific way did it go? Sideway?
Do we know?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
It started with him being forty minutes late and then
the crowd he pissed the crowd off to start with,
and then it was just a really bizarre show.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And they said the sound was bad. Everything was bad.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Hey, finally from the Babylon b CNN marks one year
anniversary of Trump falling down after loud popping noises.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, yeah, how was a year ago yesterday, So gonna
be a lot of anniversaries this week. It'll be the
one year anniversary tomorrow when he walked into the arena
where we were in Milwaukee without white bandage on his
ear and everybody cheered, and all the craziness of those
couple of weeks. Holy crap. Can't even hardly believe it
even really happened. The whole thing. They were handing out
(16:18):
souvenir ear bandages to everyone right right, right right for
a cup of coffee. That was the thing to have
abandoned dog in your ear and support. I didn't join
in with that, so you're not maga. We got a
lot of the news of the day to get to.
There's some good stuff around immigration. Some congress people visiting
(16:40):
al alligator Alcatraz and were horrified by it, you know,
the Democrats were, anyway, But of course a bunch of
other stuff Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
You have released an accountability report. We've had a look
at it, and it details that assets were requested by
the Secret Service, including requests made over the phone, and
they were denied. You also say that the former Secret
Service director made false claims under oath when Kimberly Cheatle
said there were no denials, was she misled or are
(17:14):
you accusing her of lying?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
She did not tell the truth.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
She said that there were no assets that were requested advanced.
We found at least four occasions, actually maybe five occasions
where requests were made.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It's obviously the voice of Senator Ran Paul, who's the
chair of the Homeland Security Committee in the Senate, which
for some reason was surprising to me. Anyway, he said
that Cheatle, who was running the Secret Service at the
time a year ago when Trump was nearly killed, lied
under oath to Congress. She came out and strongly denied
(17:46):
that yesterday.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
The only possible defense I could come up with for
her was that that sort of denial has decided below
her level, and she was never told about it, but
you certainly think she would have heard about it. In
the incore post near apocalyptic assassination. So yeah, yeah, Ran
Paul on faced the nation. Their whole report is done,
(18:11):
now their hearings are done. Apparently, why don't we play
another clip or two before I comment?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
But next one, Michael.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
The primary request that was made by both Trump's Secret
Service detail as well as his campaign was for counter snipers.
Counter snipers were denied until Butler. So thank god on
that day in Butler County, Pennsylvania, that was the first
time he was allowed counter snipers. If he had not
had counter snipers, that assassin.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Would have popped up again.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
He did pop up again to continue firing, and that's
when he was taken out. But thank god we had
the counter snipers there. But why were they denied for
months and months? When they finally did ask for him,
they mysteriously magically appeared. They found him where they needed
They just weren't trying hard enough.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I'm not conspiracy guy, but when you take that and
combine it with the egregious, still incomprehensible failure to secure
a line of sight rooftop, you gotta think there are
people who thought, you.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Know, if he gets shot, that would take care of
the problem. But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I'm not saying that's true. But if you're of that bent,
I don't have a great counter.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Argument for you. Yeah, I'm not willing to go there.
But I'm surprised that. I mean, I have known nothing
of what I talk here, which makes me perfectly qualified
to be a talk show host. But I was just
surprised that you don't normally have counter snipers when a
guy who's former president likely to be the next president
is speaking outdoors. Yeah, I just I'm surprised that that's
(19:49):
not just a regular thing. Yeah, me too, Me too.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Just to finish my previous thought, I remember at the
time saying virtually this were for word. My only counter
argument to the conspiracy theorist types is oh no, no, no,
the Supreme the Supreme Court. The Secret Service is this
incompetent that they will leave a rooftop with direct line
of sight to a presidential candidate unsecured.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Time. And that's it's hard to believe the reporting from
a sources. Ultimately it's a Secret Services responsibility, I suppose,
But the very close knowledge from a source is that
you coordinate with local law enforcement and hope they do
what you ask them to do. The Secret Service cannot
order people around. They can just ask and the local police.
(20:40):
Butler police were supposed to secure that building, and they
decided it was too hot outside to be up on
that roof, so they didn't. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
If that is the case the vision I think most
Americans have of the incredibly secure perimeter around the president
or presidential candidates, even that's fantasy, it's not. It's conditional
on whether it's hot out or not lovely. Well, if
you're hoping for accountability, you're going to go away disappointed.
(21:09):
One more clip at least, Michael. So it was a
cascade of errors. It was just one error after another.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
When we talked to the people in charge of security,
everybody pointed a finger at someone else.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
We said, who was responsible for that roof?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
The roof of the assassin lay with a direct sideline.
Nobody wanted responsibility. Everybody said it with somebody else. There
was plenty of time to take him off the stage.
The suspicious person with a rangefinder who became the shooter.
Many times he was spotted by police with suspicion. That
should have been enough to take the president off the stage.
(21:44):
Even with him on the roof. There was about a
three minute period when he could have been taken from
the stage, and yet no one was fired. Some of
these people could be in charge of security for another
presidential candidate, and really that's a danger that some one
of the people that we're in charge at Butler could
be in charge.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Again, that's not right. Yeah, darn it the whole everybody
blames somebody else and nobody ever gets fired. Thing is
the biggest problem anytime you have one of these government investigations.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And Ran Paul with a timely reminder of again what
we discussed at the time, that this guy was seen
multiple times identified as a suspicious character up on the roof,
had a sighting device, I mean, and the president just
went ahead and took the stage and talked for some
time as everybody's saying, there's some weirdo on the roof
with a direct line of side at the president, and
(22:35):
nobody thought, you know, why don't we say, hey, there's
a technical problem.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I just it's it's well, it's disillusioning.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Did Rand Paul get to it at any point? Because
I didn't see that interview. I wish I had. I
should have watched that one instead of one about tariffs.
But did Rand Paul to get to any place where
he believes it's less likely to happen in the future,
or is it just as likely to happen in the future.
You know, that's an interesting question. I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
There was certainly an implied we're working like crazy to
clean up the mess in the Secret Service. He mentions
that there wasn't really any disciplinary action until after they
subpoenaed for information.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
And we'll go ahead and play eighty three. Michael.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
So when you say someone's not telling the truth, is
it that there was no record of requests in denials?
Was this knowingly misleading Congress or was this like a
culture of cover up within the agency?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I think it was a cultural cover up for the agency.
They did not want to assess playing, they did not
want to look internally, and they wanted to discount any
of their actions that might have led to this. This
was a covery or ass sort of moment.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And I do believe that they did know.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
There's no way that the Director of Secret Service that
she did not know that these requests have been made.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And so yes, it was a huge failure.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
This is a fairly standard situation in government too, where
and I'm not criticizing ran Paul because I think he's
really trying to get to the.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Bottom of it.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
But what I just heard there was, well, there was
a rotten egg in the cart and Aaron we've gotten
read of her. So everything's fine now. But the culture
of Cya does that remain? Have we looked into the
relationship between the Secret Service and local law enforcement, which
I that makes perfect sense to me. They cannot, you know,
(24:34):
command a deputy sheriff to go do something.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
It's a good point. So is that good enough? And
what do we think of it? And Netta Yahoo hinted
that you know, this kid was part of an Iranian plot.
There's no evidence of that whatsoever. It's I think it's worse.
I don't know. If you read the articles that came
out over the weekend about the crook, is that his name,
the want to Be Assassin? Any of the articles about
(25:00):
him and his family and everything like it, very dysfunctional
family and all kinds of strangeness, strangeness in his life.
I think it makes it worse that it's not an
Iranian plot or some high level, complicated, three dimensional chess
sort of plan, that just a random weirdo kid who,
(25:21):
for strange reasons things he wants to kill the president
could almost pull it off. Is worse than if it
were an Iranian plot. Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah,
sloppy idiot.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Eh. Oh, thank god the bullet missed. You know, if
you don't believe in God, well that's a hell of
a good break.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah. And so then, you know, it makes it easier
to look back on previous assassinations or failures like happened
October seventh in Israel or whatever, and just realize, yeah,
a cascading series of failures can happen sometimes and you
end up with a result like that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
The one thing I learned from talking to a high
placed military source is the incredible importance of redundancies in systems,
where if System A goes out, specifically in this case
it was for communication, you have to have system B
and system C, and everybody has to be on the
same page of when and how you go from one
(26:22):
thing to the other to the other, because it is
moment to moment life or death in the military. But
it seems to me like in the case of October seventh,
you know, if somebody was on vacation or it was
the sabbath so his phone was off or whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
There was no Okay, we go to plan B. There
is no Plan B. And the idea that.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
You just ask the sheriff's deputy is if they could
please secure that building. And just that there's no second
layer of accountabilities is bothersome to me. Again, given up
with it, given that we all have assumed that it's ironclads,
it's world leading. You can't get near the president. Yeah,
unless you're a twenty year old ne'er do well who
just wants to be famous or something and.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Takes practically the easiest shot in the whole area, just
climbs up there and lays there with a rifle. I know.
It's just astounding, and it can't he can't. Like you said,
it can't be. We asked them to and they didn't.
There's got to be another.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Layer of some aw shocks those dumb local guys.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And whatever it costs will unfunded. I guess. Yeah, yeah, man,
oh man, oh man. Okay, Well that's unsatisfying, as.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
As is almost not almost every investigation and any government
failure I can think of in my lifetime, the investigation
is always completely unsatisfying.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Blame a building.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And if you can find well, if you can find
a person to blame, blame that person, put the goat's
horns on him and run him out of town as
if that solved the problem. And if you can't find
that person, you blame the building, and you just.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Hope that it doesn't happen again. Uh nearly kill the
president or a financial meltdown for the entire world or
whatever you know you want to want it to be.
You just hope it doesn't happen again. God dang it,
that's frustrating. If you have any thoughts on that, we'd
like to hear him. Text line is four one five
two nine five KFTC. We've got a mail bag on
(28:17):
the way. I want to play that Tucker Carlson stuff
where he lays out what some of you believe is
going on with the Epstein files. It's uh, it's pretty
nutty in my opinion, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
So to stay here. Are you into the teddy bear
wrapped in human skin story? I'm aware of it. Found
(28:40):
in California sidewalk. You've really out to warn people for you,
you know, I want to get people's attention. You got
to cut through the clutter. It's hard today. Done, so
we'll get to that story a little bit later. Great Scott,
if i'd kind of put that out of my mind. Yeah, yeah.
(29:03):
So here's my favorite headline. I'll lead you into. Uh
mailbik Ellen DeGeneres supports Rosy O'Donnell as Donald Trump threatens
to strip her US citizenship. Forgot this. Trump was threatening
to take Rosee o'donald's citizenship.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
A buddy of mine who I played golf with, OK,
who's very pro Trump. He's like Donald, No, No, here's
the president.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Hi. Cut on.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
But here's your freedom loving quote of the day from
the Great Thomas Sowell, continuing on our series of his brilliance.
This is one of his Mount Rushmore quotes. It's tough
to pick one of his anyway. It is hard to
imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making
decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of
(29:58):
people who pay no no price for being wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Hmm. That's a good one. Amen to that. Thomas mailbag.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Drops no bailback at Armstrong and Geeddy dot com. Is
the email addressed? Keep it shortish If he can bless
you know you're a great writer with an amazing experience
and brilliant insights.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Then they stretch.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Out a little bit be rights. Hello fellas Bury from Thailand.
Here yesterday, being the anniversary of the attempted Trump assassination,
I'm reminded of how little we've discovered about the shooter
and his family is. Eric Trump commented, this guy was
cremated quicker than a family pet.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I don't think there's much to discover. Honestly, I don't
think either.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I mean, if a crazed, miserable loaner who craves attention
will slaughter a room full of innocent little children, one
would certainly take a pot shot at a presidential candidate.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
We've talked easy math for me. We've talked about this
a lot. One of the reasons conspiracies like this can
grow is it's tough for us to wrap our heads
around the idea of just some average local dope could
change world history. We don't like that, right, so we
prefer to believe there's much bigger forces involved.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
And Barry includes a haikuda mark the occasion, and for
once in my life, I'm refusing to read a hike
Wow look at you with your restraint. Ryan from Houston,
Dear Big Freedom and old simple Jack. Gavin Newsom AOC
and many Democrats decry the ice raids, but I never
seem to hear what they want our immigration laws to be.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Well, nobody forces them to say.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
We can't continue to have a semi open border and
have people sneak in too, be in legal limbo by
being illegally in the country, but nobody enforcing the laws.
So I'd like to know, Gavin Newsom and others, what
are your immigration laws?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
What should they be? I do have, though, a friend
of a friend account of somebody who's been trying to
do it the right way for years and who got
grabbed up, and and it's just that's it's not good
at all. Yeah, So we'll get to that a little
bit later. I mean, we can't be doing that.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
It is horrifying and almost hilarious that that very question,
really of both sides, combined with why haven't you done
it yet, is never asked in this discussion. Reams of coverage,
hours and hours of the talking heads, and nobody says,
all right, what should the laws be?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Then?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
How do we enforce them? I mean It's like it
doesn't even occur to people to ask the question enough
to make you shake your head on the top of
your pocket fork. Jack A.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Money writes Jack should ditch the bush League pocket fork
and go pro. He should have a custom holster for
his fork made so he can wear it as a
side arm when he approaches something like a bakery counter
and a supermarketer or a buffet with his hand just
above the holster fork showing he's ready to draw people
in line would know they better just step aside.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I've got the pocket fork right here. This is where
I took it out of my pocket and decided I'm
not carrying around a fork anymore. Yeah, there's a major
step forward for me. And it's been sitting right here
for quite some time. A four. If you weren't listening
at the time, I kept in my pocket so that
I could like stop at a grocery store, get pie,
walk out and eat it in the parking lot in
my car. And Imani wants you to go in the
(33:20):
other direction with like a custom made fork in a holster.
But no, no, okay, fair enough, let's see Garrick and
Davis writes, Jack's head will explode if he watches the
new Superman. Oh really, I watched the new Jurassic Park.
I'll have to talk about that later.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Okay, I'll keep it as short as I can without
big spoilers. I'm gonna skip mostly most of it. It's crazy,
how off the wall, goofy and stupid this movie really is.
Director James Gunn took what everyone knows about Superman, he
can fly, his powers, his suit, then basically just wrote
his own character and universe, so took the very very
(33:58):
basis of the character than just completely reinvented the thing.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It's a gamble. That's fine.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
It's not like it's the Book of Genesis. It's a
comic book carrier. Somebody came up within the thirties or whatever.
I just I don't worry about that much. And Jared
in Missouri actually makes pretty good to point about the
Superman movie because the story was according to some that
the movies kind of woke in his story about it,
your brave immigrant blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I've heard this so many times and then seen the movies,
and it's bulls.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I wish I could say the word, yeah, it's a
tiny percentage of blown up way out of proportion, and yeah,
but Jared actually makes this point which I liked.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
This can so easily be flipped.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Superman is a success story about an immigrant who integrated
in the American culture.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
He loved his new home and used.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
His success to give back and fight for truth, justice
in the American way.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Perfect or you cannot think about politics at all when
you go to movies like this, which would be a
good idea. So you wanted Hillary to win and Getty
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