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July 21, 2025 35 mins

Hour 2 of A&G features...

  • Joe has concerns about Trump's trade policy...
  • Dispatches from the World of Science!...
  • Tulsi Gabbard launches a new investigation in the Russia-gate Hoax...
  • Jack brings us the youngest self-made billionaire in the world!

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm strong and Gatty and Key Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
WNDA players are sending a very frank message to the
league during a very pivotal time. The All Stars warming
up in these T shirts last night that read pay
us what you owe us the game, later drawing chance
from fans echoing pay them.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
This comes a mid negotiations ran I really need out
of that.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
So the w NBA players came out on the court
for their All Star Game, which I did not see,
wearing shirts that said play us what you pay us,
what you owe us, and that caused a lot of
online chatter. Is that sort of thing will? A lot
of people pointing out the fifty dollars the league lost

(01:04):
most recent season According to the NBA, which owns the WNBA,
The WNBA is supported by only exists really because of
the NBA finally subsidized by Yeah. Others are claiming that
all that math has changed since Caitlin Clark came in
and their ratings are up. The average attendance is up

(01:29):
all across the country. I don't have any idea the
numbers of that, but at least historically it has been
a league that would not exist on its own if somebody,
if the NBA wasn't for some reason thinking it's in
their best interest to have a woman's version out there.
There's not enough of an appetite to make it a
profitable business at least a pisted.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Two main motivations in doing that is far as I've
been able to gather. Number One, it's a decent idea
because like women's soccer is pretty big and profitable, and
they thought maybe there's a market for this. The second
thing is they are a league that has had problems

(02:10):
with guys who don't treat women very well, and especially
during the hashtag me too era when it was for
that two and a half years or whatever it was,
you had to desperately signal that you were good with
women and up with women and down with domestic violence
and rape and the rest of it, and aren't we

(02:31):
all I'm differentiating frantic virtue signaling with actual morals. That's
part of it. They just thought it was really good
for their image. I points it was like buying carbon
credits or something.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
As I was just.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Reading one article preparing for this. Apparently the NBA purposefully
makes the books on this pretty murky, so it's pretty
difficult to figure out how much they subsidize and how
much money the WNBA makes or dozen or whatever. But
it is worth pointing out that the players, and they're
voting for other players on the All Star Team had

(03:07):
Caitlin Clark at ninth. You're out there wearing shirts for
the All Star Game and says, pay us what are worth?
If you get a raise, it's because of Caitlyn Clark.
I mean, so I wouldn't be hating on her too much.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Stadium was full for the All Star Game, Jack, do
you know where it was held?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Guessing apples? Guessing where she plays? Right?

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Yeah, coincidence. That's kind of funny, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
I mean you don't have to like her, I suppose,
but you ought to realize that if you make more money,
she's entirely the reason.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Right now.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Might not be fair, of course, but you know where
does fair come into entertainment? Well, for instance, as I
just spent an unholy amount of time watching the British Open,
or the Open Championship as we prefer to call it
in the golf world over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Tiger Woods was a prick.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
But every single guy with a golf club in his
hands playing on TV will tell you, oh man, our
sports just exploded because of Tiger. We're all making a
hell of a lot more money because of Tiger.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Back in the day, I would have watched. I would
have known the tournament was on this weekend. I didn't,
and would have watched some if Tiger was playing, and
because I would have pulled in people like me.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah exactly. Anyway, coming up later, I.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Was gonna I've got a bunch of economic like a
kitchen table, you know, economic dollars and cents stories to
touch on real quickly.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
That's why I wanted to do this. Getting into it.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
The Caitlin Clark thing is just because it's all it's
almost so many things are not presented as a dollar
and cents sort of way. It's not nothing to do
with fairness or whether women deserve a platform, but blah blah.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Blah, none of that has anything to do with anything.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Major league shortstop makes forty million dollars a year when
a school teacher makes eighty thousand. Yeah, that's correct, that's
absolutely correct, and that's precisely the way it should be anyway,
unless we as a society decide to reprioritize. But we
haven't anyway. So a couple of things worth noting. Economically speaking,

(05:10):
here's a little ab for you. Headline A from the
Wall Street Journal, the US economy is regaining its swagger.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Consumer spending again.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Consumers spending again after spring's tariff chill. But some expect
growth to be slow. But there doesn't seem anything. It
seemed to be anything that can slow down the economy.
Then this headline, it's like the next story, Europe prepares
for a US trade fight. We're about to start a
trade war with our biggest trading partner over Trump's whole

(05:42):
tariff thing and.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Trade imbalances and the rest of it.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
And although in his defense, Europe has had very very
one sided in their favor rules and rags about trading
with the US.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
It does confuse me somewhat that I feel like I've
heard five to and different entities.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Are our biggest trading partner.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
That stat seems to get thrown around a lot. Our
biggest trading partner, Mexico, our biggest trading partner. You're up
our biggest trading partner, China, our biggest trading partner.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
If it's just like which version you use of the
way you slice it.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I don't know. That's an interesting thought. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
So one of the points that they make in the
second article about the alleged trade war is that nobody's
really sure if any of the stuff is ever going
to happen, the tariffs and the trade wars and the
sturm and drong, and as markets tend to do, they
get used to things.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
There's a more technical term for that.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
But now they're like, oh, yeah, Trump' shooting off his
mouth about a trade war again. Huh interesting? What do
you want to have for lunch? In a way that
you know six months ago people go in nuts? And
then finally this I thought this was really interesting. Now
not a political thing because I don't care. Yeah, go ahead,
Oh Lutnick his main spokesman on the whole thing. Oh Lutnick.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Howard Lutnick was on one of the shows yesterday and
I should have had Hanson grabbed the quote. He said
something like, in the next two weeks, Americans are going
to see the best something or other they've ever seen
in their lives economy or business climate, or stock market
or something. But anyway, he's claiming, in the next two weeks,
we're gonna it's gonna be the most amazing you've ever
seen in your life.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay, cool.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
That's during the heels of the ninety deals in ninety
days and there was like one and a.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Half m.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Show me, don't tell me, eh and then this, and
again I'm not trying to make any point.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I just found it interesting.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
It's a entirely economic strategy.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Here's it.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
For instance, in January, a Campbell's New England clam chowder
can of soup costs less than two bucks on Amazon.
A this month can of So you're ordering your clam
soup on Amazon to have delivered rights to your door.
What a time to be alive. What a great country.
And it's less than two bucks. And you can be

(08:06):
in a part of the country where you haven't seen
a clam since you know, but you can get it
delivered to your door the next day, maybe the same day.
And this month, that same soup costs two sixty on Amazon,
a thirty percent increase in the five months since President
Trump first announced sweeping tariffs. Amazon has quietly raised prices

(08:28):
on low cost products, a bunch of them. Deodorant, protein shakes,
PetCare items, blah blah blah. Wall Street Journal analysis and
nearly twenty five hundred items.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Found on average.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Prices on inexpensive goods increased five percent by July. So
it's not a ton, but it's some. In April, Amazon
said they would hold the line on prices, but indeed
they have raised them on thousands and thousands of items.
Walmart lowered prices on the same items by nearly two percent.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Okay, let's say items. What's going on there? Different business strategies.
Here's what Lutnick said, how do you reverse public opposition?

Speaker 6 (09:10):
Oh, they're going to love the deals that President Trump
and I are doing.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I mean, they're just going to love them.

Speaker 7 (09:15):
You know.

Speaker 6 (09:16):
The President figured out the right answer and sent letters
to these countries said this is going to fix the
trade deficit. This will go a long way to fixing
the trade deficit. And that's gotten these countries to the table.
And they were going to open their markets or they're
going to pay the tariff. And if they open their markets,
the opportunity for Americans to export to grow their business, farmers, ranchers, fishermen.

(09:41):
This is going to be the next two weeks are
going to be weeks for the record books.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
President Trump is going to deliver for the American people.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Next two weeks are going to be weeks for the
record books. I hope it's true as juicy as Trump steaks.
That's right, It's going to be fabulous. Why that was
just why its Why do you need to do that?
Because I'm a realist, I demand realism. I think you
should put on your Trump shoes and walk that back.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Take a look at my Trump watch and it's not running.
That's on.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
So here's here's one of the difficulties in speaking of
these things quickly. It reminds me of the end of
the last hour. Jack said something about the Epstein thing,
and I said, well, it depends what you mean by
the Epstein thing.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
As we are discussing last week.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
There are many different sizes you can order of the
Epstein quote unquote conspiracy. Some are very modest, fact based.
This guy was a perv. He was getting underage girls
for other pervs. Who are they? Why have so few
charges been filed? That is a perfectly reasonable, fairly conservative
way to look at it.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Then you got your.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Full blown the Jews are running a worldwide sex pizza
under see Hollywood driven sex cabal thing.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Different version of the Epstein thing.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
When you're talking about the tariffs and the trade wars
and the agreements, you almost have to talk about every
country or every set of countries differently, because it's absolutely
true Europe has all sorts of trade barriers against us
that are the legacy of the post WW two era
when they were decimated, and we were smart to help

(11:24):
them grow their economies so they would become customers again
and become trading partners again, and ally is worth having again,
that was smart.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
It needs to end now.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
The only reason their economies are weak is because they're socialists,
and we've been defending them against foreign adversaries for the
last seventy five years. Having said all that, the whole
trade deficit thing is just silly. That's not a problem
except in very rare cases.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Here's a for instance.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
This is another Trump is silly thing. Sorry, I'm piling
on a bit. I love what he's done on the
border and cleaning up the woke in the universities.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Couldn't love it. Anymore. But this stuff is just silly.
Love that the Oval Office now looks like a Chinese restaurant. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
Finally, so Trump announced last week that he's ordered Coca
Cola to put cane.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Sugar ben right, that's right, finally, that's what I said
of cord, the issue I voted on.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Yeah, and uh, here's the problem. Though, we have a
huge shortage of sugar in this country. We don't produce
nearly as much as we eat because we're.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
A fat, fat people. We produced about.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
Four million tons of cane sugar four million. We consume
twelve and a half million.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
The rest is made up by imports and sugar source
from sugar beets, which is a little bit different. And
so we would have to have an enormous increase in
sugar imports from.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Brazil and Mexico.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
Okay, those are country is that face Trump administration tariffs
of fifty and thirty percent respectively on August first, allegedly,
so your coke could be about three dollars and fifty
cents for one thing. And secondly, all of a sudden,
out of nowhere, we would have enormous trade deficits because
they have something we want that doesn't hurt us my grocery.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I have an enormous trade deficit with my grocery store.
I give them way more money than they give me.
I can't in fact, I can't find any record of
them giving me any money. But that money filters its
way through the economy into my pocket and it's fine.
So it's just it's a silly way of looking at it.
Big sugar or something. Yeah, I just I don't get

(13:44):
his strategy.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
Maybe it's just his his I'm crazy hardball and it
yields great agreements.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I hope that's the case.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
It may be getting a pet psyche could help your
dog's life. Also, I want to be a billionaire. Work
ninety hours a week. That's the answer. Among other things
on the way.

Speaker 8 (14:05):
TVs announced they are indeed ending the late night comedy
show The Late Show with Stephen Colbert next year.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Jimmy Kimmel blasted.

Speaker 8 (14:13):
The decision with a foul mouth post on Instagram. He
would have done it on his show, but he wanted
people to see it.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
That's kind of funny. Wow.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
So Tulsa Gabbert, the skunk striped National Security National Director
of Intelligence or whatever she is, made some explosive claims
yesterday about information she has about the Obama administration purposefully
fabricating stuff about Russia, Gates, et cetera, et cetera. That

(14:49):
including Barry himself, if true, would be a really big deal.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
So we'll explain that coming up. Yep.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Indeed, a couple of really cool stories from the world
of science, one being that, and I became aware of
this because a friend is involved in this. But can
new blood tests really detect cancer early? A federally funded
study will research whether a new generation of cancer blood

(15:15):
tests are ready for patients.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
It's a big giant study. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
These multi cancer, multi cancer early detection tests are designed
to flag the aeron genetic signatures of more than a
dozen cancers. Wow, how doctors and medical practices are already
using them?

Speaker 4 (15:33):
How often do you think we'd be jabbing ourselves? Would
we start doing it at home? Because it's so we're
going in like every How often would you do it?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Probably every couple of years would be enough. Right? No, God, No.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
When I got when I had my cancer, I asked
him how long do you think I had this? They
said it could have been nine months, or it could
have been a couple of weeks depends on how fast
it grew. But yeah, I think you'd have to go
in every month, or you'd want to if you could
catch this gieminy. I don't want to get jabbed every month.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
I don't cancer either, But you know, I wonder, you know,
obviously we're way early to be discussing that with any
you know, authority, But I wonder how expensive the test
will be or you know, because some things are much
more you know, expensive than others in the world of
blood testing. And the other interesting story is they're making

(16:27):
find out more and more about dog's ability to actually
smell that somebody has Parkinson's disease. Wow, yeah they can.
That's been known for quite some time.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah, Parkinson's causes changes in your skin and has a
unique sense signature linked to the disease.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
And and you know, the.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
Dogs, let's see what was their actual success rate up
to eighty percent sensitivity and ninety eight percent by sniff
skin swabs, but in the field it's more like eighty
percent in the early testing.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
So I mean that.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Between the blood tests and like dogs, might we be
able to nip these dread diseases in the bud in
the future.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
That'd be amazing. What Tulsi Glack gab Well is rough.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Tosy Gabber claims she has Armstrong and.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Geeddy fuzz on this. Whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
The Russians interfered in our election during twenty sixteen cycle.
They did it with purpose, They did it with sophistication,
They did it with overwhelming technical efforts.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
The Great James Comy, the hero of every story he
ever tells, or.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
They did not a whole lot other than run a
bunch of Facebook ads, which is ultimately kind of everything
they found for the most part.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
Right well, interestingly enough, over the weekend, Tulsa Gabber the
DNI made a statement that we're about to essentially saying
Barack Obama was intimately involved in the Russian collusion hoax
and everything that flowed from it.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
In that and I'll let her.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Speak, but that the cast of characters, those names we know,
Comy Clapper, Brennan, Susan Rice, John Kerry, they are all
in on it. Indeed, it is criminal what they did here,
is miss Gabbard.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
It's not a Democrat or Republican issue.

Speaker 9 (18:26):
This is an.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
Issue with such significant impact that it should concern every
American because it has to do with the fabric and
integrity of our democratic republic. There was a Moller investigation
that went on for years, cost taxpayers nearly forty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
There were two congressional impeachments.

Speaker 7 (18:45):
President Trump and almost every member of his family were
smeared and attacked face lawsuits, depositions, high level officials were
Investigated's foundational to it all was the fact that we
had in President Obama and his leadership team, people who
did not want to accept the will of the American

(19:07):
people in electing Donald Trump in twenty sixteen, and therefore
cooked up this treasonous conspiracy to again try to effectively
and they did effectively launch a year's long coup against
the sitting president of the United States.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
I didn't see the interview with her. Where did where
did she come up with new information?

Speaker 5 (19:28):
I just think it's continuing to dig after months of
investigation into this matter. She says, Yeah, Trump's only been
president for six months and there's been no way to
look into it.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
A news since twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
I'm scanning her statement real quickly. The long and short
of what she says is that there is overwhelming evidence
that demonstrates how, after Trump won the twenty sixteen election
against Hillary Clinton, president Obama is national security Cabinet members
manufactured and politicized intelligence to lay the groundwork for what
was essentially a year's long coup against the president.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
And she goes into a fair amount of detail.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Now, I'm pretty jaded on this sort of stuff, and
I come by it honestly. I think in that, for instance,
the whole Russia hoax, all kinds of people, including my
current Senator Adam Schiff, claimed all kinds of crap for
years that they just did not have and have paid
no price for not having it. Then you got James
Comer on the Republican side claiming all kinds of crap

(20:29):
that he apparently has not had in a couple of
different things recently.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
And I don't have a.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Lot of faith in Tulci Gabbard. I do have a
fair amount of faith in Matt Taiebe, though he is
the leading non right wing journalist on being upset about
the Russia hoax.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
He hates Trump.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
He's lefty if he's anything, but he hates being lied
to by the government more than anything else. And he
has believed the whole Russia thing was nonsense from the beginning.
Has been writing about this for the Rolling Stone and others,
and I guess now he's a substack guy.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
This is what he tweeted out today.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
Though Barack Obama now squarely in the Russia gate crosshairs,
Former President Obama is now the center square of the investigation,
and documents suggested legacy, maybe even his freedom are in jeopardy, right, iibi.
I mean, according to the documents that are out that's
a hell of a thing to say. Here's a very

(21:28):
basic fact outline that is the spine of this whole thing. So,
in the months leading up to the November twenty sixteen election,
the intelligence community consistently assessed that Russia is probably not
trying to influence the elect the election by using cyber means.
And in December of twenty sixteen, after the election, after

(21:50):
the election, talking points were prepared for d n I
James Clapper stating quote, foreign adversaries did not use cyber
attechs a cyber attacks on election infrastructure to alter the
US presidential election outcome. On December ninth, twenty sixteen, President
Obama's White House gathered top National Security Council of principles
for a meeting that included Clapper and Brennan and Rice

(22:11):
and Carry, etc. After the meeting, D and I, Clapper's
executive assistant, sent an email to intelligence community leaders tasking
them with creating a new IC assessment per the president's request.
That's a quote that details quote the tools Moscow used
in actions it took to influence the twenty sixteen election.

(22:33):
It went on to say, oh, D and I will
lead this effort with participation from the various agencies. There's
a problem there, and various folks have called Tulsey Gabbard
on it. I don't want to prejudge because, like Matt Taibi,
I agree it was so dirty and deliberate and so

(22:55):
many people were in on it. Whether it crossed the
bounds into lawlessness, I don't know, but it's worth pursuing.
But the first statement was about Russia is not trying
to influence the election by using cyber means literally hacking
into the systems. And then the second thing at Obama's

(23:16):
request is tools Moscow used in actions it took to
influence the twenty sixteen election. Those are two different questions,
and so is this just sloppy is it equivocating the
two things.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
I'll tell you this, I am absolutely unwilling to say.
Look at Telsey Gabbard, those two things are different. She's
a crackpot. Never mind. I mean, because it was so
dirty and deliberate and unfair and probably illegal.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Well, certainly, the faking up of the PAISA warrants over
and over again in the ways we've discussed through the years.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
That was despicable.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Yeah, and uh, you know, it's the same crowd that
went out of their way to present Hunter's laptop as
a ridiculous story when they knew it was a real story.
They run knew it was real. So it's the same
people doing the same things in the same direction. Does

(24:16):
it really stretch the credulity that.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
Much to think Obama was in on those conversations or
even you know, ran it. And if it wasn't Obama,
that's fine. I don't have Obama obsession syndrome. Now, it
doesn't whether it go to him at all. All the
other people, if they did it on their own, need
to pay a price.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Right, Yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
I just have always assumed with Obama mostly. I mean,
this is not like a charitable view of him. Really,
it's just a just always have thought he's just so
into himself, and he was at the end of a
two term presidency, Like I just can't imagine him caring enough.
We've got a couple of Matt taiv quote clips here,
Sure said talking to Bill Hemmer on Fox News go

(24:57):
ahead with forty seven. Michael, Well, why wasn't there more
urgency on this and Trump one point zero as there
is now?

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, that's a complaint.

Speaker 9 (25:06):
I heard a lot over the weekend from people who
have been following this, and even for former officials who
are close to Trump. There one of them said to me,
a former high ranking Trump officials said there was quote
so much corruption in the last Trump presidency that this
shouldn't have been overlooked, that these documents should have come out. Absolutely,

(25:30):
But the overall sense I get is that everyone's happy
that they finally are coming out, and they're looking forward
to what is likely to come out this week.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Matt Taibe is a guy, as a lefty, he has
been one of the people screaming, hey, liberals, we're the
people that are supposed to be like really worried about
the CIA and the NSA and the FBI. We're the
ones that's our lane to think that the FBI is
somebody we should be scared of, and they all cooked

(26:00):
something up to take down a presidency. Shouldn't we as
liberals be worried about this?

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (26:06):
A lot of what motivates him as personal disgust that, Yeah,
the lefty media started lionizing Clapper and call me and
all these people the minute they were opposing Trump. And
he's like, wait a minute, these are the spooks and
the guys who ignore the Constitution and the Fourth Amendment
means nothing to them with their legal searches, and.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Now they're your buddies, left the America and cooked up
the Iraq war. In his mind, right, here's another Tayebee clip.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Is the allegation they were trying to influence our election
or or is the allegation that they actually changed votes?

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I think we need to be clear on that. What
can we say? So it's both.

Speaker 9 (26:44):
The Democrats are making a lot of hay over this
apples and oranges issue that there was never any question
they didn't actually change vote tallies, but they did influence
the election. Actually, there was some question about whether they
had the ability to to influence the election. There were
quotes earlier from that from that year with the FBI

(27:05):
saying they didn't have any evidence that they had done so,
and they were uncomfortable making that statement. There there were
also quotes saying that they lacked evidence that Russia had
the ability to out to impact the outcome of the election.
So all of this would have been passed on to
somebody like Michael Flynn because presidents elect are entitled to

(27:28):
receive the Presidential Daily Briefing. That's why this is important.
It's not so much what the PDB did say, it's
what it didn't say. It didn't say that there was
a sweeping conspiracy to help Trump, and if they had that,
it would have been a very different political.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
Picture going for Okay, I got to admit my overall
sense of this is it's going to be really hard
to nail down. There are just too many slippery facts
and plausible deniability encounters and the rest of it. I
think it's well worth looking into because it was a
disgusting chapter.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
From people who for a living do slippery things that
are hard to nail down in other countries. So so, yeah,
and one counterfactual or alternate history that will never be
able to witness in reality is if Trump hadn't been
beset by that whole Russian collusion hoax his whole first term,

(28:22):
how would that have changed his actions policies? Is just
is his demeanor everything all right? And the first impeachment
probably wouldn't have happened, and then the second way. I mean,
you don't know if January six you don't know if
he'd have won. So yeah, it's hard to say how
it affected things well.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
Right, And even having lost. The whole January sixth thing
was I think, to some extent Trump refusing to stand
up for the so called institutions of our society in
a way that I would have appreciated on that day
because he was so disgusted with how dishonest they had
been about him and his administration for a very long time.

(29:01):
I'm not excusing it, but I think I understand it.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
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(29:24):
The guy had to quit. They're both insanely wealthy, we'll
get into that in hour three. And what Coldplay is
saying in their concerts now all entertaining. So Elon Musk
tweeted this out on his old platform over the weekend,
which I thought was interesting. All it said was, at
times AI existential dread is overwhelming. Well, I thought that

(29:47):
from a guy who's building one of the top AI
machines in the world and knows more about it than
the average human.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
I find that a little scary.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
Oh yeah, I've got a great chat GPT story in
which it has chat gpt is admitted I failed.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
But on a different topic from Elon Musk, he did
an interview over the weekend with uh look like it was,
which one is it? Axios Politico one of them anyway,
talked about how much he's working now SpaceX and Tesla,
and he said he's back to He had tweeted out
he's back to working seven days a week and sleeping

(30:24):
in his office whenever his kids are away.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
I don't know whatever.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Whenever his kids away means when you have fourteen kids,
different women, different places, but working seven days a week,
And his quote was from the interview was seven days
a week, sleeping in the factory. No one should put
this many hours into work. This is not good, This
is painful. It hurts my brain, it hurts my heart.

(30:48):
That's an interesting thing to say. It hurts your brain
and it's hurts your heart, and nobody should do this,
but you're doing it.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
I'm not exactly sure what that means, which leads me
to this a different billionaire who I'd never heard of.
How did Lucy Guo Guo? I don't speak Chinese. Would
you pronounce that goo go? I'm gonna say go.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
How did Lucy go to throwing throne Taylor Swift as
the youngest self made female billionaire in the world. Act
broke stay rich, she said, is one of her keys,
but she's thirty years old. Recently dethroning Taylor Swift as
the youngest self made billionaire on the planet. She did
it with an and some sort of AI data labeling startup.

(31:36):
I don't even understand what it was that she did,
but it's involving artificial intelligence.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
See, you gotta label your data. Everybody knows that.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
The quickest way to become a billionaire or have a
stock reach four trillion dollars or whatever is be involved
in AI in the modern world, that's for certain. Anyway,
this is the stuff I thought that was very interesting.
She started this when she was twenty one. She left
a couple of years later, but she still has enough
control in the comp that she became a billionaire at
age thirty. The coder turned founder still clocks ninety hour

(32:06):
work weeks with a schedule that starts at five thirty
am and ends at midnight every day. She credits her
no sleep DNA to her parents that she just doesn't
need much sleep. Her parents were Chinese immigrants who worked
as engineers in the San Francisco Bay area and instilled
under a strong work ethic, working every day from five

(32:30):
thirty am to midnight.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Kill me right.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
The fast talking Trailblazer doesn't believe in wasting time. I
did like this part. She said, Well, I don't watch
TV or scroll TikTok, so that gives me many extra
hours a day.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
I mean, you also have to worry about going crazy
by never doing anything that's recreation. But if you eliminate
I mean, because there's certain stuff we all.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Should eliminate, it's just a waste of freaking time.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
I mean, even if you feel like you need to,
there's better ways to rest than scrolling TikTok. Yeah, but
he said that gives me many extra hours in a day.
I'm constantly on the go, whereas a lot of people
building relaxation time, I do not. I do fill in
my schedule some stuff like at ten pm sometimes I'll
go to dinner with friends. We're not all built to

(33:19):
work ninety hour weeks.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
She cost me at ten pm, Hey you want to
grab a bike?

Speaker 5 (33:24):
I'm like, what the hell I'm going to sleep, I'm
getting bum in bed.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
I only answered the phone because I thought you were
at a car wreck or something. You want to go eat.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
So two things on this that struck me.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
One, I don't want to go counter to the narrative
that you know to a certain extent, if you can
dream it, you can do it.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
I mean, you can be successful just like anyone else,
which is true.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
But a lot of like pro athletes or tech billionaires
or whatever, are just built diferently than you are or
I am.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
They're just built differently.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Their minds work differently, or their bodies work differently, and
it's just good for them or bad for them or whatever.
But I'm not built to work ninety hours a week,
all day long without doing anything else. I'd go crazy.
I don't want to do that. And you know, I'm
not built to be insanely competitive about one particular tiny

(34:23):
aspect of the world, like a specific sport or a
music instrument or something like that. I'm just not Also, though,
the other side of it is the whole. Why do
some immigrants come to this country and think, Wow, what
an opportunity. If I work my ass off, I can
become wealthy in this country. And some people come to
this country, or some people who are born in this

(34:43):
country with the idea that I'm not rich already having
done nothing, and I'm going to blame others in the
government and riot in the streets to get mine.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
What is that parenting school? I think a lot of
it's probably chinnet the attitude.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
No, the attitude's not genetics, the attitude of I'm not
rich yet, it's somebody else's fault.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
I don't think it's genetics. No, probably not, although I
don't know. It's a complicated question. We have no time.
But yeah, I think a lot of it's upbringing our culture.
I mean, you have cultures for instance, communist cultures where
being a go getter didn't do you any good, Kissing
the ass of the authorities and scamming the system did
you good.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
So yeah, becomes part of your.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Well if you grow up surrounded by parents and say
this is a country where you can get wealthy, or
you grew up with parents saying this is a country
where you're being screwed.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
By the rich. Those are two very different. Then sure,
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