July 25, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- The Epstein hoax?
- Computing power & updates to tech
- The Idaho subhuman scumbag & Jack sees a jazz band
- A new parenting trend
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong
and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Gallaine Maxwell's attorneys praised Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche and
the Justice Department for meeting with her in person today
not far from that prison, at a federal courthouse in Tallahassee.
And while the DJ is not commenting on what was said,
Maxwell's attorney gave us some details.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
He took a full day and asked a lot of questions,
and Miss Maxwell answered every single question. She never stopped,
She never invoked a privilege, she never declined to answer.
She answered all the questions truthfully, honestly, and to the
best of her ability.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Gallaine Maxwell, you answered all the questions about being a pedophile.
Why is she being asked questions? Is this part of
the digging into the Epstein thing, which is now, as
I mentioned earlier, the longest running scandal in either of
Trump's terms. But what scandal I don't know. Well, here's
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proof that it is a scandal, because I think a
scandal that only reaches a scandal if like both sides
are involved, because if it's just the other side, you know,
there's always each side's always trying to get a scandal going,
but you have to buy in from both sides, or
at least a little bit. Well there is as of yesterday,
so Trump has been saying this, it's all been a
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big hoax.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
It's perpetrated by the Democrats, and some stupid Republicans and
foolish Republicans fall into the net.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Trump has been saying that all week long, actually started
last week. It's a hoax. It's a hoax. It's a hoax.
Stupid Republicans are falling for it. It's a hoax. The
Speaker of the House was asked yesterday, is it a hoax?
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Well, I've never seen the Epstein evidence. It wasn't in
my lane. But I have the same concern and question
that a lot of people do. And look, I think
the presidence is not a hoax. In other words, comes
not a hoax.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Of course, on the Speaker of the House saying it's
not a hoax, from the President's talking points all week long,
including five minutes ago outside of the White House, is
it's a hoax? It seems like it's something to me
politically yeah, not that not there's Epstein stuff, but politically.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
No, well it ought too except for the guiding principle.
These days, Trump says a lot of crap. He'll say
something different today.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well, so I was listening to Chris Steierwaldt. You know,
remember him, We've had him on the show before. He's
a pretty good pundit around stuff politics. He's on News
Nation now is that where he does his thing? And
I think that's where anyway, he said, this is our
first glimpse at kind of a post Trump world. That
this wouldn't have happened like last term, where people would
(03:03):
have broken with what he was saying. If he, you know,
either overtly or suggestively, had said this is how we're
going to treat this story, everybody would have gotten in line.
And they're not on the Epstein thing because he's you know,
you keep saying he's done. I mean, he's not running
(03:23):
for any more elections. Yeah. Well, and the problem is, again,
this thing is so slippery.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
What are you talking when you say the Epstein and
I have no idea I have you know, suggested there
are about four levels of what you believe was going
on there from the I'll just have the Epstein no
sides plays to the full Epstein platter, which includes the
Jews and Masade running the world and.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
The Tucker Carlson fever dream version of Michelle Obama's a man. Well,
that maybe part of it, but it's not really anyway.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
So when you talk about the Epstein thing, what are
you even talking about.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
It's entirely possible.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Trump is talking about the maximalist version of this, and
and Johnson, if that is his real name, is talking
about the fact that there were quite a number of
underage girls who are sexually molested and very very few
powerful people who enjoyed their perversions have been brought to
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justice for it. If that's what you're talking about, then
of course that's not a hoax.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Well, let's listen to our old friend David Drucker this
morning on Morning Joe, and he was talking about how
and we got the clip, but it's quite long. There's
nothing there. So the Trump administration has looked into this
the same. I mean, if there was something there that
hurt Republican gerald think they would have released it during
the Biden term and vice versa. So there's there's not
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anything there. And they're trying to figure out, how do
we exit from this situation? How do we get out
of this deal? Right? And I don't know how you
get out of this deal without saying, without just coming
completely cleaning, coming out and saying, and this might be
the best thing. If Dan Bongino or whoever came out
and said, look, I made up all kinds of course,
you lose a lot of voters that way. You really would?
(05:17):
I mean, that would piss me off if I had
voted on the Epstein story, the traffic half children, egg
don constantly, Yeah, and you told me I was just
I was just exaggerating all that to get you to vote.
F you. I'm never voting for you again, right.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah, I would agree. I would agree, Which is you know,
it's one of the hazards Trump brought into his cabinet,
into his White House, some fairly sketchy characters, maybe not
at their in their hearts. They might be doing just
terrific work now in the government serving the people of
the United States, but they made their living in a
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world of sensationalistic click bait, intense competition for eyes and ears.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oh boy, it's got some numbers.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
The other day on one of your more egregious paranoid
click baits, you know, bulless pandering podcasters, and this guy's
getting rich with that garbage.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Oh Trump. So Trump just said, I'm sure we'll have
the clips later. They're asking him all about Epstein. Of course,
he's standing at getting ready to go somewhere. He said,
why don't you talk to Bill Clinton? You need to
talk more about Clinton. He went to the island twenty
eight times. So, oh boy, oh my god, what this
story this is? Well, it's not over today. It's the
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longest scandal so far in Trump's presidencies, and it ain't
over today because he's just made new news that will
make the news this evening. What's so interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
About it, though, is is the Democrats are not accusing
him of anything other than failing to release everything right
they knehich they could have done and did not do
for a very long time. So the whole thing is
just confused and phony to me. You keep saying it's
the longest running.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Scandal, but it's an inch deep. Nothing here true. But
it has been toward the lead. If it doesn't get
bumped off the lead by Ozzy Osbourne or Hulk Hogan
we were a dumb country. It has been toward the
lead stories every single day for what going on two weeks.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
And if I might contradict myself, if it loses Republicans
a boatload of voters, that's significant. That is something quick.
A couple of quick thoughts. I promise you, Steve from
Everett Washington in an email, Guys, I think I can
distill down many of your comments from last three episodes
to resolve as Epstein nonsense predicates. Number One, the dog
(07:44):
a late leaks like a sieve and always has air go.
If Trump was implicated that Biden DOJ would have become
involved withdiclous, would not have become involved with ridiculous cases
brought by the New York AG and the Georgia AG.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Good, they would have nailed them with the Epstein's two.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Also, if prominent Democrats were implicated, we would know about
this from the Trump DOJ. One paranoid counter argument might
be Trump can't do that because he's implicated too.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't believe for a minute he is. I don't
think so either, but yeah, that is a decent counter argument. Three,
If the.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Clandestine Yeah, if the clandestine services are involved, the work
product of Epstein Island is an intelligence asset. They're doing
a hell of a job protecting it from the doj ergo.
There's nothing to see here. Conclusion. The people who are
being protected are those who are protected by law victims,
grand jury witnesses, and testimony given by prosecutors without defense
council presence.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, whoever wrote that is clearly part of the cover up. Okay,
probably say that I'm leaving. I know, I know, I know.
This is the oddest scandal using my finger quotes we've
ever covered, because what the hell is it?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Is it the ultimate Internet age scan? It might be
the ultimate social media age scandal.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Maybe that's where the story is that the future is
going to include completely imagined storylines that everybody then reacts to.
Right right, They were created by someone on Twitter at
some point.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah, yeah, I read a great example of Tucker doing
what Tucker does, which is to give you a couple
of facts, then confidently state how they are obviously proof
of something and they're clearly connected, and anybody who doesn't
think so is a liar or an idiot blah blah blah.
And if you look at those facts, you think, no,
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that's not proof of anything, and no, they're not necessarily linked.
And you're you're begging the question, and you're just pronouncing
your view right in a way that tends to lead
fools along quite effectively.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Anyway. So here's here's the scenario. I was thinking about
this earlier.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You're telling your friend, Yeah, these scumbags smashed in my window.
Luckily the alarm system went off and they only got
my laptop and some of my wife's jewelry.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So or okay.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
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tell the scumbag to f off. They probably don't say that.
They could call the cops, turn on your lights, whatever.
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Speaker 1 (10:49):
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Speaker 1 (11:10):
Remind me to I have a walk back of a
bit of my criticism of Hulk Hogan. Well it wasn't criticism.
I don't know what it was. Slander.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I'm trying to come up with the word irresponsible. Yeah yeah,
mockery would be good. Yeah yeah, really regrettable. I'll walk
back a little bit of that.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I'm seeing they're going big on, for instance, the CBS
News up there remembering Hulk Hogan. No love for Chuck
By and Joni who died the same day.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Okay, he could flugle his horn like nobody else. I
mean it's a fine horn player. He had hit like
fifty years ago. Yes, and was on King of the
Hill a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
As I understand it, today's the sixtieth anniversary, one of
the biggest music events ever. We'll mention that later, among
other things. What's the one thing we're gonna tease? We're
gonna see something big?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I know I had Woodstock with no one wants Elvis
has comeback special The Beatles, Sergeant Pepper and Louis Armstrong
first decided to blow into a I don't let me
think about that fifty sixty years ago.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
You said, yeah, mab be nineteen sixty five, there's a hint.
They just made a giant movie about it, won a
bunch of awards. Anyway, we got a lot more news
on the way stay here.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
A great grandson of fascist dictator Benito Mussolini has joined
a soccer team in Italy and said this week that
his last name quote bothers other people more than me.
Same said his teammate Joey Hitler Cosby.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Ah, I don't coming up. Yes, I don't want to
remember the names of lots of bad people, like we
talked about with that guy in Idaho. I haven't memorized
his name I've been able to avoid that, and I'm
hoping to continue that. I don't want names like that
taking up space. Sub human scumbag.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
We had an interesting conversation about his sentencing the hearing
the Plea Bargain with the fabulous judge Larry Katie's dad yesterday.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Follow up information.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I think some of the quote unquote unanswered questions about
the scumbag and why the plea Bargain unfolded the way
it did are are pretty answerable now. So that follow
up coming up in a few minutes, and I'm really
looking forward in our three to a fabulous executive producer,
Mike Hanson taking us in a little show and tell
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how he comes up with these unbelievable, amusing songs via AI.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Speaking of AI, is AI going to ruin the world,
or at least change it in such ways it's unrecognizable,
which would be disrupting and frightening for a lot of
people or not. Who knows. Nobody knows. Was listening to
another podcast with one of your top AI experts on
it the other day, and he made an interesting point
about how a number of technologies have grown in the
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last century and then stopped all of a sudden in
ways that nobody predicted, and he used a couple of examples,
Moore's law being a really good one. Moore's law being
that computing power doubled every eighteen months, and it did
for like fifty years, forty years, fifty years, something like that,
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long beyond anybody thought it would. It just kept doubling
in speed computing power. It got smaller and faster, smaller
and faster, doubling every eighteen months for like fifteen years,
fifty years, with everybody predicting that, well, those days are over,
and just kept going until a couple of years ago.
And now it takes about three and a half years
for computing power to double, but nobody knows why. And
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this AI expert use the example of flight. So the
right Brothers flew in nineteen oh three, and then extraordinary,
the exponential improvements were made in flying planes until about
the fifties, and then it stopped. Now and we're doing
basically the same thing as we did in the fifties
now with just slight changes jet engines and the way
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the plane is built and everything like that, and the
speeds that they flew and all that has stayed the same.
For flying, and nobody saw, nobody saw the exponential change,
and then nobody saw it all of a sudden stopping
in the fifties. I mean, if you had gone on
the if you'd looked at a graph from nineteen oh
three to like nineteen fifty six, whenever the jet engine
became popular or whatever, you'd have thought, well, by twenty
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twenty five, will be flying around the world in two
seconds or something, right, sure, Yeah, And he said the
universal principle of as good as it gets. Yeah. And
his point was that AI may very well be like that,
that we hit a maximum next year for reasons nobody
quite understands, and it just doesn't go beyond that. Everybody's
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assuming that it will continue to get so much better
at the crazy pace that it has been doing. I
thought that was an interesting argument from a very, very
smart guy who, by the way, has invested gazillions of
dollars in AI and is hoping that's not true.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I think a lot of things, including technology, are like
the great game of golf in that I can, and
I'm not even a certified teacher, I can get you
from shooting one hundred and fifty to one hundred and
ten in about a week. I can get you down
to ninety and probably a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Go from ninety to eighty is.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Going to take a year, year and a half, depending
on how talented your blah blah blah. As you get
closer to the top of the pyramid of perfection, incremental
gains get more and more difficult and expensive, i'd imagine.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, but your example is predictable. These other ones are
not at all or haven't been, so who knows when
the peaks. Yeah, I hope soon. I don't want great
disruption for the last quarter of my life.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
It'll be crazy to watch, for sure, and I will
worry a great deal about my kids. Yes, another reason
I saved my pennies. A couple of great emails on
this topic. In nick rights, we're all astounded by the
fact that the FDA or whatever it was in that
study AI made up studies as part of its rationale
for something we're confused about why it would do that.
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It was trained on a lot of academic work rights.
It is recognized better than the rest of us that
in that setting, if you want to make a point
and don't have substantive evidence, it's acceptable to just invent it.
We hear stories all the time about traditional researchers having
effectively hallucinated data support that are to support their ends
all the time.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Or.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
What do they call that? Where you reproduce a study
the ability education replication scandal of the last however many years,
that you can't replicate hardly any of these studies. AI
quite possibly picked up on that, Oh you don't have
to be able to prove you can actually do it. Okay,
Well I'll just make one of them then, and maybe
we'll get to this later.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
A great point being made that we have to stop
anthrow pomorphosizing AI. It's hard calling using human terms to
describe them and what they do and when they go wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's an intriguing thought. We'll get to that eventually, have
no doubt. So Joe's got some new insight on side
of a human scumbag. Sub human scumbag, that's what we'll
call them. The dude up in Idaho. If you miss
a segment and get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on
demand Armstrong.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
And Getty, Where is the murder weapon? The clothes you
wore that night? What were Kaylee's last words? If you're
really smart do you think you'd be here right now
if you hadn't attacked them in their sleep in the
middle of the night like a pedophile. Kaylee would have
kicked your ass.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Thank you, Thank you, sub human scumbag in Idaho now
serving what the prosecutor described as a life and death
prison sentence for consecutive life sentences with no chance for
parole plus another ten years. Just a little paradoxical, but
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I get the point. Had an interesting conversation with Judge
Larry Larry Goodman Katie's Dead yesterday about the case and
certain aspects of it, including the fact that the plea
bargain had not required sub humans comebag to explain why
he did it and the other aspects of the crime
in a way that plea bargains often do.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Do you think he could explain why he did it?
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Well, yeah, that's an interesting question, and why the prosecutor
didn't demand that coming up in a minute, because he's
actually they've actually spoken to that. But now that it's done,
they've released tons and tons of files from the investigation
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and some of the major takeaways, some of them are horrific.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
The nature of the injuries and that sort of thing.
It's just and we're not going to get into that.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
One of the victims reported seeing an unknown man watch
her while she walked her dog. A few weeks before
the murders. She told her roommate, who lived and related
the story to detectives, that there was a creepy guy
on the hill above and behind their house watching her.
A couple of weeks later, the roommates found their front
door damaged. And then there are various aspects of how
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scumbag committed the crime, which is not that interesting, irrelevant,
But here's the part.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
That I think is significant.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
They mentioned before his conviction, the scumbag got on other
inmates nerves. According to files. One called him an effing weirdo.
Boasted to a female prisoner that he would it would
have beat him up if he wasn't worried about the repercussions.
He's just a complete creep, showed signs of aggression.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Here's the interesting part.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
So he was studying for a PhD in criminology at
Washington State in Pullman, which is rhetoric cross the border
from where the crimes happened, and a colleague told police
he believed scumbag attempted to quote attempted to use his
authority as a TA teacher's assistant teaching assistant to inappropriately
interact with female students. He said scumbag often talked about
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wanting a girlfriend, that they discussed this topic on quote
many occasions.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Wow, so he's basically he's got a bit of an
in cell thing. Then, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
And the same witness told investigators he noticed injuries on
Scumbag's face and hands on at least two separate occasions,
and he made up weird excuses about why he had
what appeared to be defensive wounds on his hands and
face that looked like scratches. So, and I think it's
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it's pretty clear because the female victims were very attractive
young women, that it was a combination of, you know,
un fulfilled lust.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Resentment, anger that they're not interested in him or women
like that aren't interested in.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Him, exactly, and a narcissistic idea that he, the great
expert in criminal justice, could get away with murder. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I guess we are all to speak for myself, our
outliers on this whole motive thing. Always with school shooters
or this guy or whatever the motive is, they're insane
people the grasp on to something that insane people grasp
onto specifically kill people, you know, specifically to draw attention
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to the plight of the Palestinians or something like that.
It's always just insane people.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Well, I wouldn't use the term insane, but I know
what you mean. It's angry, selfish people who have lost
their grasp of proportion. I guess they perceive reality, but
they and they think they are justified in doing something
utterly unstifiable.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I guess to me, and I realize I'm an outwire
apparently because people the news media kinds are still no
known motive. I just feel like there's no answer that
would satisfy that, So I don't ask the question. Right, Yeah,
I would.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Agree, I would agree, and it's forming up, but it's
it's close enough again, angry coward decides they want to die,
and they're gonna take out their anger on a bunch
of innocent people.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
You don't need the specifics, no, and doesn't let's lessen
your pain or the harm to society to get I
just don't understand. And so finally, where is that? I guess,
may you know, I can understand why it's horribly painful,
that there was no reason that your loved one was
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taken from you other than the guy's brain doesn't work right, right,
here's one or yeah, he had just descended into a
level of bitterness which killed is human, That's the way
I would put it. So there's a crime expert being
quoted on Fox News. He says, the biggest questions, why
did he target that house, What connection did he have
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to any of the victims, What was his motive for
the killings? The prosecution has no ideas and does not
seem all that interested in finding out. I respectfully disagree.
I think they have come to a similar conclusion as
what I was describing. And one of the prosecutors, and
I've got the quote here somewhere, but I can characterize
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it essentially said that, oh, there he goes. The county
prosecutor said, part of the reason he offered the deal
that did not require Colberger scumbag to explain himself, was
because he thought the mass murder would just lie in
an effort to further traumatize the victim's family. Sure, and
the hint is they had a pretty good idea what
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sort of scumbag they're dealing with and having him offer
some rambling, self justifying, stupid you know, reason in his
crazy head.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
And I'm the guy who just said he's not crazy,
he's just evil. There's no point that possibly cause you
more pain, not less, right, Yeah, just.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Lock him away. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Humans are desperate for patterns and reasons because the idea
of random evil that could not have been anticipated and
we cannot avoid in the future is too terrifying for people.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Well, it'd be overwhelming if you believed it was very
likely to happen to you. Luckily. The reason, like I
said yesterday, the reason this story gets so much attention,
or these stories, they're so rare.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Thank god, rot in your cage, sub human scum and
condolences to the poor, poor families.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Anyway, enough of that, Michael. Do we have transition music? Andy?
I need it. I need it desperately. Never mind the audience.
I need it. What about my need music that will
wipe our brains clean of what we just talked about.
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I wish I'd learned to play the sacks. It's too
late now. Which one's the low ones, the alto sax,
the lower sex? Well, no, the baritone sax is the
lowest lowes. Your tenor, than your alto, than your soprano
usually have its usually tenors and altos. And the jazz
bands I watched them, Yeah, this is a tenor. I
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told you.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Tenner sax is the one that really has the honk in,
like in the same range as a human voice, sexy
note bending.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I love that sound. Yeah, it's cool. Uh, I don't
think I talked about this jazz band that I went
to see in New York City so my kids. I
got away from my kids for an hour during my
vacation and I went and watched this a jazz band
at a jazz club in on the Upper West Side,
and it was very cool. It's just like you would
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picture this sort of thing straight out of a movie,
tiny little place, sitting at tables and them playing jazz
like you've heard your whole life up there. And the
thing that struck me is how freaking old these people were.
Getting back to the theme of you might be you
might not be able to walk or talk or remember
(27:27):
what you put your car keys, but apparently as if
you got any musical talent, that continues. I mean, these
guys were freaking old. They had to be all in
their eighties, but just wailing on saxophone, trumpet, piano, trombone.
I mean it was just fantastic. Ah, that sounds great,
(27:48):
sound jealous. It just blows my mind that that that
is a cool thing. Yeah. Uh, Anyway, I gotta admit, though,
I'm a big jazz fan, Like I've been a jazz
fan for what ten years now or something like, that's huge.
I just absolutely love it, gangod enough, But I'm not
certain I could tell great from bad, let alone pretty
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good from excellent. Oh yeah, there's.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
The great trombone Joey Legend, oh elephant, one of these
guys who get long done with like a five minute
trombone or a trumpet solo.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
And I would think, do I know if that was
great or not? I don't.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I don't really know, but you know, it satisfied me. Yeah,
I'm sorry, I'm reliving all sorts of musical memories. I'll
leave it alone. But no, I see your point exactly absolutely.
Speaking of the stages of life, there's a new trend
in parenting, because everything's got to be a trend and
everything's got to have a name. Apparently, goodbye gentle parenting.
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Parent saying not parroting Goodbye gentle parenting, Hello, f around
and find out, which is kind of like the entire
history of human parenting making a.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Comeback, right, Yeah, I want to hear this. That sounds
like what they're doing in Europe. We've talked about that
a little bit and certainly sounds like a better direction
than we have been going. So yeah, we've got that
on the way. Also, we got a fun thing an
hour three. Our executive producer Mike Hanson's spent a fair
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amount of time learning how to make songs with AI
and he's gonna explain to us how you go about
doing that if you want to make a song for
your anniversary or your you know, your your dad's birthday
or whatever. It's not that hard from what I understand.
Watching Hands will play you some of the hilarious examples exactly.
So we got that in hour three. Stay here. Kamala
(29:54):
Harris is ex lover Willie Brown.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Doesn't think she can successfully campaign for California governor.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And it's better suited for a legal role.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Well that's a good thing she loves buses because she
just got.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Thrown under one. Yeah, you could have been worse, believe me.
Willie Brown doesn't think she can win. Yeah, well, I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
That's why he's one of the most successful politicians in
the history of for instance, cal Unicornia, because he's a
smart guy.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
We'll have to ask former Little League star Joe Getty
his opinion on the hot topic of Little League across
America bat flipping. Are you okay with it or not?
Various kids getting kicked out of games are suspended from
the league for flipping their bat after a home run.
I have a hot take for you. I want to
hear it. If you can handle it, Jee, I think
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I can.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Also, as I've said many times, Trump makes me insane
on a lot of topics. I think the tariff thing
is is just dopey. I'm not digging it at all.
On the other hand, the progress that's being made in
rolling back the horrific child abuse that is gender affirm
and care, the progress being made is amazing and it's
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saving thousands of kids from this terrible experimenting on their body.
It's wonderful and we'll talk about that more next hour.
Speaking of parenting and kids and that sort of thing,
I'm amused and annoyed in the modern world, everything has
to be a trend, and then everybody has to write
about it. Then everybody has well, it has to have
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a name, obviously, and then as it peaks and there's
a backlash, everybody has to write about that and name
it as well. As opposed to people just living their
lives and doing what they've been taught to do or
learn to do or whatever. It's got to be a
trend anyway. The headline is Goodbye gentle parenting, Hello, f
around and find out. It was only a few months ago,
(31:55):
Jack that I think I became fully aware of having
run into it in real life's times people talking about
friends their kids. See I'm grandparent agent at this point.
So a handful of my friends have talked about, oh
my god, my daughter is into the gentle parenting thing,
and Junior can do anything he wants, and instead of
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there being repercussions, mom just explains why that's less than
pleasing behavior and tries to re engage him in doing
something else, and of course the kid becomes a monster.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And it's funny.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
It opens with a story of a woman who tried
lots of ways to discipline her rambunctious thirteen year old,
including making him write sentences one hundred times, the classic
number of times I had to do that. But when
he sprayed her with a water gun at a campground
after she asked him not to, she's only solemnly one option.
She threw him in the pond, clothes and all. Sometimes
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the best left sins in life are the hard ones.
She said, Wow, that's not much of a repercussion, though,
if your kid a kid being thrown in a lake.
Fafo fafo often pronounced fafo short for f around and
find out the language.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
It's a die, don't either.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
It's a child rearing style that elevates consequences over the
gentle parenting methods that have helped shape gen Z. Parenting
is so much simpler and so much more complicated than
people give it credit for. They have to call it
f around and find out because that's kind of a
popular phrase.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Now. No, it's it's setting limits.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
And making clear there will be consequences if those limits
are exceeded or not met, depending on what we're talking about,
and then if there are violations, there are repercussions. Doesn't
need a nickname. It's called parenting. It's called modifying behavior
and they they write a fair amount about what should
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seem patently obvious to most people, but they do get
into something. I believe parenting that's light on discipline has
dominated the culture in recent decades, but critics blamed the
approach for some of gen Z's problems in adulthood.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Or people who are into the obvious. Yeah, anybody who's sane. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
They cite surveys that show young adults struggling with workplace relationships.
Was it because their parents never told them no? And
suffering from depression and anxiety? Was it because their parents
refereed all of their problems? For parents who spent years
trying to meet their children's emotional needs without slipping into
avert permissiveness, faffo can sound blessedly simple. Again, I guess,
(34:38):
I guess you know you need somebody to read your article,
so you try to put a new spin on it.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
I don't believe this is made up.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
The return to reasonable consequences for bad behavior.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Well, I hope that it's not made up. We certainly
know the setup is true, that there's been a move
toward not letting your kids figure out anything in life.
Helicopter parenting. Who is I talking to the other day
who said their drone parents. They said, we've updated it.
It's funny. He and his wife were like, I know,
everybody makes fun of it. We're helicopter parents. Actually, Carlo
(35:14):
serves drone parents to be more modern, but we're absolutely
drone parents. And they are like gleeful about it. Wow,
I pity their kid. Well, I don't know what he's specifically,
but oh they're very nice people. Yeah, yeah, uh yeah, miss.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
You know, the misguided kindness is one of the biggest
problems in parenting anyway. Oh, we don't have time to
get into it thoroughly. Faffo parents goes by a lot
of names. Parenting goes by a lot of names, tough love,
authoritative parenting, or has this one person put it a
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method to.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Out feral their feral I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
This is so dumb, this discussion having any rules about
that any make it clear that there are limits and
that there will be consequences when those limits are exceeded. Then,
as I've said many times through the years, not recently
because my kids are grown, never threaten a consequence you're
not prepared to deliver, and never failed to deliver the
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consequence that you promised.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
It's very simple. How do you make those AI songs
that you hear all the time, Well, it's not that hard.
I don't think We're gonna have a little tutorial in
hour three from our executive producer Hands and hope you
can catch that Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong
and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Gallaine Maxwell's attorneys praised Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche and
the Justice Department for meeting with her in person today
not far from that prison, at a federal courthouse in Tallahassee.
And while the DJ is not commenting on what was said,
Maxwell's attorney gave us some details.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
He took a full day and asked a lot of questions,
and Miss Maxwell answered every single question. She never stopped,
She never invoked a privilege, she never declined to answer.
She answered all the questions truthfully, honestly, and to the
best of her ability.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Gallaine Maxwell, you answered all the questions about being a pedophile.
Why is she being asked questions? Is this part of
the digging into the Epstein thing, which is now, as
I mentioned earlier, the longest running scandal in either of
Trump's terms. But what scandal I don't know. Well, here's
(01:22):
proof that it is a scandal, because I think a
scandal that only reaches a scandal if like both sides
are involved, because if it's just the other side, you know,
there's always each side's always trying to get a scandal going,
but you have to buy in from both sides, or
at least a little bit. Well there is as of yesterday,
so Trump has been saying this, it's all been a
(01:43):
big hoax.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
It's perpetrated by the Democrats, and some stupid Republicans and
foolish Republicans fall into the net.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Trump has been saying that all week long, actually started
last week. It's a hoax. It's a hoax. It's a hoax.
Stupid Republicans are falling for it. It's a hoax. The
Speaker of the House was asked yesterday, is it a hoax?
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Well, I've never seen the Epstein evidence. It wasn't in
my lane. But I have the same concern and question
that a lot of people do. And look, I think
the presidence is not a hoax. In other words, comes
not a hoax.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Of course, on the Speaker of the House saying it's
not a hoax, from the President's talking points all week long,
including five minutes ago outside of the White House, is
it's a hoax? It seems like it's something to me
politically yeah, not that not there's Epstein stuff, but politically.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
No, well it ought too except for the guiding principle.
These days, Trump says a lot of crap. He'll say
something different today.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well, so I was listening to Chris Steierwaldt. You know,
remember him, We've had him on the show before. He's
a pretty good pundit around stuff politics. He's on News
Nation now is that where he does his thing? And
I think that's where anyway, he said, this is our
first glimpse at kind of a post Trump world. That
this wouldn't have happened like last term, where people would
(03:03):
have broken with what he was saying. If he, you know,
either overtly or suggestively, had said this is how we're
going to treat this story, everybody would have gotten in line.
And they're not on the Epstein thing because he's you know,
you keep saying he's done. I mean, he's not running
(03:23):
for any more elections. Yeah. Well, and the problem is, again,
this thing is so slippery.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
What are you talking when you say the Epstein and
I have no idea I have you know, suggested there
are about four levels of what you believe was going
on there from the I'll just have the Epstein no
sides plays to the full Epstein platter, which includes the
Jews and Masade running the world and.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
The Tucker Carlson fever dream version of Michelle Obama's a man. Well,
that maybe part of it, but it's not really anyway.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
So when you talk about the Epstein thing, what are
you even talking about.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
It's entirely possible.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Trump is talking about the maximalist version of this, and
and Johnson, if that is his real name, is talking
about the fact that there were quite a number of
underage girls who are sexually molested and very very few
powerful people who enjoyed their perversions have been brought to
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justice for it. If that's what you're talking about, then
of course that's not a hoax.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Well, let's listen to our old friend David Drucker this
morning on Morning Joe, and he was talking about how
and we got the clip, but it's quite long. There's
nothing there. So the Trump administration has looked into this
the same. I mean, if there was something there that
hurt Republican gerald think they would have released it during
the Biden term and vice versa. So there's there's not
(04:56):
anything there. And they're trying to figure out, how do
we exit from this situation? How do we get out
of this deal? Right? And I don't know how you
get out of this deal without saying, without just coming
completely cleaning, coming out and saying, and this might be
the best thing. If Dan Bongino or whoever came out
and said, look, I made up all kinds of course,
you lose a lot of voters that way. You really would?
(05:17):
I mean, that would piss me off if I had
voted on the Epstein story, the traffic half children, egg
don constantly, Yeah, and you told me I was just
I was just exaggerating all that to get you to vote.
F you. I'm never voting for you again, right.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah, I would agree. I would agree, Which is you know,
it's one of the hazards Trump brought into his cabinet,
into his White House, some fairly sketchy characters, maybe not
at their in their hearts. They might be doing just
terrific work now in the government serving the people of
the United States, but they made their living in a
(05:55):
world of sensationalistic click bait, intense competition for eyes and ears.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oh boy, it's got some numbers.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
The other day on one of your more egregious paranoid
click baits, you know, bulless pandering podcasters, and this guy's
getting rich with that garbage.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Oh Trump. So Trump just said, I'm sure we'll have
the clips later. They're asking him all about Epstein. Of course,
he's standing at getting ready to go somewhere. He said,
why don't you talk to Bill Clinton? You need to
talk more about Clinton. He went to the island twenty
eight times. So, oh boy, oh my god, what this
story this is? Well, it's not over today. It's the
(06:39):
longest scandal so far in Trump's presidencies, and it ain't
over today because he's just made new news that will
make the news this evening. What's so interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
About it, though, is is the Democrats are not accusing
him of anything other than failing to release everything right
they knehich they could have done and did not do
for a very long time. So the whole thing is
just confused and phony to me. You keep saying it's
the longest running.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Scandal, but it's an inch deep. Nothing here true. But
it has been toward the lead. If it doesn't get
bumped off the lead by Ozzy Osbourne or Hulk Hogan
we were a dumb country. It has been toward the
lead stories every single day for what going on two weeks.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
And if I might contradict myself, if it loses Republicans
a boatload of voters, that's significant. That is something quick.
A couple of quick thoughts. I promise you, Steve from
Everett Washington in an email, Guys, I think I can
distill down many of your comments from last three episodes
to resolve as Epstein nonsense predicates. Number One, the dog
(07:44):
a late leaks like a sieve and always has air go.
If Trump was implicated that Biden DOJ would have become
involved withdiclous, would not have become involved with ridiculous cases
brought by the New York AG and the Georgia AG.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Good, they would have nailed them with the Epstein's two.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Also, if prominent Democrats were implicated, we would know about
this from the Trump DOJ. One paranoid counter argument might
be Trump can't do that because he's implicated too.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't believe for a minute he is. I don't
think so either, but yeah, that is a decent counter argument. Three,
If the.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Clandestine Yeah, if the clandestine services are involved, the work
product of Epstein Island is an intelligence asset. They're doing
a hell of a job protecting it from the doj ergo.
There's nothing to see here. Conclusion. The people who are
being protected are those who are protected by law victims,
grand jury witnesses, and testimony given by prosecutors without defense
council presence.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, whoever wrote that is clearly part of the cover up. Okay,
probably say that I'm leaving. I know, I know, I know.
This is the oddest scandal using my finger quotes we've
ever covered, because what the hell is it?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Is it the ultimate Internet age scan? It might be
the ultimate social media age scandal.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Maybe that's where the story is that the future is
going to include completely imagined storylines that everybody then reacts to.
Right right, They were created by someone on Twitter at
some point.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah, yeah, I read a great example of Tucker doing
what Tucker does, which is to give you a couple
of facts, then confidently state how they are obviously proof
of something and they're clearly connected, and anybody who doesn't
think so is a liar or an idiot blah blah blah.
And if you look at those facts, you think, no,
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that's not proof of anything, and no, they're not necessarily linked.
And you're you're begging the question, and you're just pronouncing
your view right in a way that tends to lead
fools along quite effectively.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Anyway. So here's here's the scenario. I was thinking about
this earlier.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You're telling your friend, Yeah, these scumbags smashed in my window.
Luckily the alarm system went off and they only got
my laptop and some of my wife's jewelry.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So or okay.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Imagine a security system, simply Safe home Security with their
new active guard outdoor protection that would have stopped the
break in before it happened. With the AI powered cameras
and live monitoring agents, they can detect suspicious activity and
tell the scumbag to f off. They probably don't say that.
They could call the cops, turn on your lights, whatever.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I'm happy that I've got the best home security system
of twenty twenty five set up at my home with
all the sensors and alarms and cameras and all that
different sort of stuff, ranked number one in customer service.
You can set it up yourself simply Safe, or they'll
help walk you through it if that's what you'd like now.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
A service this complete and technologically advanced is going to
be much more expensive than traditional security systm.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
No monitoring plans start around a dollar a day.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
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term contracts.
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Speaker 1 (11:10):
Remind me to I have a walk back of a
bit of my criticism of Hulk Hogan. Well it wasn't criticism.
I don't know what it was. Slander.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I'm trying to come up with the word irresponsible. Yeah yeah,
mockery would be good. Yeah yeah, really regrettable. I'll walk
back a little bit of that.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I'm seeing they're going big on, for instance, the CBS
News up there remembering Hulk Hogan. No love for Chuck
By and Joni who died the same day.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Okay, he could flugle his horn like nobody else. I
mean it's a fine horn player. He had hit like
fifty years ago. Yes, and was on King of the
Hill a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
As I understand it, today's the sixtieth anniversary, one of
the biggest music events ever. We'll mention that later, among
other things. What's the one thing we're gonna tease? We're
gonna see something big?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I know I had Woodstock with no one wants Elvis
has comeback special The Beatles, Sergeant Pepper and Louis Armstrong
first decided to blow into a I don't let me
think about that fifty sixty years ago.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
You said, yeah, mab be nineteen sixty five, there's a hint.
They just made a giant movie about it, won a
bunch of awards. Anyway, we got a lot more news
on the way stay here.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
A great grandson of fascist dictator Benito Mussolini has joined
a soccer team in Italy and said this week that
his last name quote bothers other people more than me.
Same said his teammate Joey Hitler Cosby.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Ah, I don't coming up. Yes, I don't want to
remember the names of lots of bad people, like we
talked about with that guy in Idaho. I haven't memorized
his name I've been able to avoid that, and I'm
hoping to continue that. I don't want names like that
taking up space. Sub human scumbag.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
We had an interesting conversation about his sentencing the hearing
the Plea Bargain with the fabulous judge Larry Katie's dad yesterday.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Follow up information.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I think some of the quote unquote unanswered questions about
the scumbag and why the plea Bargain unfolded the way
it did are are pretty answerable now. So that follow
up coming up in a few minutes, and I'm really
looking forward in our three to a fabulous executive producer,
Mike Hanson taking us in a little show and tell
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how he comes up with these unbelievable, amusing songs via AI.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Speaking of AI, is AI going to ruin the world,
or at least change it in such ways it's unrecognizable,
which would be disrupting and frightening for a lot of
people or not. Who knows. Nobody knows. Was listening to
another podcast with one of your top AI experts on
it the other day, and he made an interesting point
about how a number of technologies have grown in the
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last century and then stopped all of a sudden in
ways that nobody predicted, and he used a couple of examples,
Moore's law being a really good one. Moore's law being
that computing power doubled every eighteen months, and it did
for like fifty years, forty years, fifty years, something like that,
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long beyond anybody thought it would. It just kept doubling
in speed computing power. It got smaller and faster, smaller
and faster, doubling every eighteen months for like fifteen years,
fifty years, with everybody predicting that, well, those days are over,
and just kept going until a couple of years ago.
And now it takes about three and a half years
for computing power to double, but nobody knows why. And
(14:52):
this AI expert use the example of flight. So the
right Brothers flew in nineteen oh three, and then extraordinary,
the exponential improvements were made in flying planes until about
the fifties, and then it stopped. Now and we're doing
basically the same thing as we did in the fifties
now with just slight changes jet engines and the way
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the plane is built and everything like that, and the
speeds that they flew and all that has stayed the same.
For flying, and nobody saw, nobody saw the exponential change,
and then nobody saw it all of a sudden stopping
in the fifties. I mean, if you had gone on
the if you'd looked at a graph from nineteen oh
three to like nineteen fifty six, whenever the jet engine
became popular or whatever, you'd have thought, well, by twenty
(15:35):
twenty five, will be flying around the world in two
seconds or something, right, sure, Yeah, And he said the
universal principle of as good as it gets. Yeah. And
his point was that AI may very well be like that,
that we hit a maximum next year for reasons nobody
quite understands, and it just doesn't go beyond that. Everybody's
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assuming that it will continue to get so much better
at the crazy pace that it has been doing. I
thought that was an interesting argument from a very, very
smart guy who, by the way, has invested gazillions of
dollars in AI and is hoping that's not true.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I think a lot of things, including technology, are like
the great game of golf in that I can, and
I'm not even a certified teacher, I can get you
from shooting one hundred and fifty to one hundred and
ten in about a week. I can get you down
to ninety and probably a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Go from ninety to eighty is.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Going to take a year, year and a half, depending
on how talented your blah blah blah. As you get
closer to the top of the pyramid of perfection, incremental
gains get more and more difficult and expensive, i'd imagine.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, but your example is predictable. These other ones are
not at all or haven't been, so who knows when
the peaks. Yeah, I hope soon. I don't want great
disruption for the last quarter of my life.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
It'll be crazy to watch, for sure, and I will
worry a great deal about my kids. Yes, another reason
I saved my pennies. A couple of great emails on
this topic. In nick rights, we're all astounded by the
fact that the FDA or whatever it was in that
study AI made up studies as part of its rationale
for something we're confused about why it would do that.
(17:12):
It was trained on a lot of academic work rights.
It is recognized better than the rest of us that
in that setting, if you want to make a point
and don't have substantive evidence, it's acceptable to just invent it.
We hear stories all the time about traditional researchers having
effectively hallucinated data support that are to support their ends
all the time.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Or.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
What do they call that? Where you reproduce a study
the ability education replication scandal of the last however many years,
that you can't replicate hardly any of these studies. AI
quite possibly picked up on that, Oh you don't have
to be able to prove you can actually do it. Okay,
Well I'll just make one of them then, and maybe
we'll get to this later.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
A great point being made that we have to stop
anthrow pomorphosizing AI. It's hard calling using human terms to
describe them and what they do and when they go wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's an intriguing thought. We'll get to that eventually, have
no doubt. So Joe's got some new insight on side
of a human scumbag. Sub human scumbag, that's what we'll
call them. The dude up in Idaho. If you miss
a segment and get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on
demand Armstrong.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
And Getty, Where is the murder weapon? The clothes you
wore that night? What were Kaylee's last words? If you're
really smart do you think you'd be here right now
if you hadn't attacked them in their sleep in the
middle of the night like a pedophile. Kaylee would have
kicked your ass.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Thank you, Thank you, sub human scumbag in Idaho now
serving what the prosecutor described as a life and death
prison sentence for consecutive life sentences with no chance for
parole plus another ten years. Just a little paradoxical, but
(19:00):
I get the point. Had an interesting conversation with Judge
Larry Larry Goodman Katie's Dead yesterday about the case and
certain aspects of it, including the fact that the plea
bargain had not required sub humans comebag to explain why
he did it and the other aspects of the crime
in a way that plea bargains often do.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Do you think he could explain why he did it?
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Well, yeah, that's an interesting question, and why the prosecutor
didn't demand that coming up in a minute, because he's
actually they've actually spoken to that. But now that it's done,
they've released tons and tons of files from the investigation
(19:47):
and some of the major takeaways, some of them are horrific.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
The nature of the injuries and that sort of thing.
It's just and we're not going to get into that.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
One of the victims reported seeing an unknown man watch
her while she walked her dog. A few weeks before
the murders. She told her roommate, who lived and related
the story to detectives, that there was a creepy guy
on the hill above and behind their house watching her.
A couple of weeks later, the roommates found their front
door damaged. And then there are various aspects of how
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scumbag committed the crime, which is not that interesting, irrelevant,
But here's the part.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
That I think is significant.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
They mentioned before his conviction, the scumbag got on other
inmates nerves. According to files. One called him an effing weirdo.
Boasted to a female prisoner that he would it would
have beat him up if he wasn't worried about the repercussions.
He's just a complete creep, showed signs of aggression.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Here's the interesting part.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
So he was studying for a PhD in criminology at
Washington State in Pullman, which is rhetoric cross the border
from where the crimes happened, and a colleague told police
he believed scumbag attempted to quote attempted to use his
authority as a TA teacher's assistant teaching assistant to inappropriately
interact with female students. He said scumbag often talked about
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wanting a girlfriend, that they discussed this topic on quote
many occasions.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Wow, so he's basically he's got a bit of an
in cell thing. Then, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
And the same witness told investigators he noticed injuries on
Scumbag's face and hands on at least two separate occasions,
and he made up weird excuses about why he had
what appeared to be defensive wounds on his hands and
face that looked like scratches. So, and I think it's
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it's pretty clear because the female victims were very attractive
young women, that it was a combination of, you know,
un fulfilled lust.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Resentment, anger that they're not interested in him or women
like that aren't interested in.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Him, exactly, and a narcissistic idea that he, the great
expert in criminal justice, could get away with murder. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I guess we are all to speak for myself, our
outliers on this whole motive thing. Always with school shooters
or this guy or whatever the motive is, they're insane
people the grasp on to something that insane people grasp
onto specifically kill people, you know, specifically to draw attention
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to the plight of the Palestinians or something like that.
It's always just insane people.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Well, I wouldn't use the term insane, but I know
what you mean. It's angry, selfish people who have lost
their grasp of proportion. I guess they perceive reality, but
they and they think they are justified in doing something
utterly unstifiable.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I guess to me, and I realize I'm an outwire
apparently because people the news media kinds are still no
known motive. I just feel like there's no answer that
would satisfy that, So I don't ask the question. Right, Yeah,
I would.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Agree, I would agree, and it's forming up, but it's
it's close enough again, angry coward decides they want to die,
and they're gonna take out their anger on a bunch
of innocent people.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
You don't need the specifics, no, and doesn't let's lessen
your pain or the harm to society to get I
just don't understand. And so finally, where is that? I guess,
may you know, I can understand why it's horribly painful,
that there was no reason that your loved one was
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taken from you other than the guy's brain doesn't work right, right,
here's one or yeah, he had just descended into a
level of bitterness which killed is human, That's the way
I would put it. So there's a crime expert being
quoted on Fox News. He says, the biggest questions, why
did he target that house, What connection did he have
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to any of the victims, What was his motive for
the killings? The prosecution has no ideas and does not
seem all that interested in finding out. I respectfully disagree.
I think they have come to a similar conclusion as
what I was describing. And one of the prosecutors, and
I've got the quote here somewhere, but I can characterize
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it essentially said that, oh, there he goes. The county
prosecutor said, part of the reason he offered the deal
that did not require Colberger scumbag to explain himself, was
because he thought the mass murder would just lie in
an effort to further traumatize the victim's family. Sure, and
the hint is they had a pretty good idea what
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sort of scumbag they're dealing with and having him offer
some rambling, self justifying, stupid you know, reason in his
crazy head.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
And I'm the guy who just said he's not crazy,
he's just evil. There's no point that possibly cause you
more pain, not less, right, Yeah, just.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Lock him away. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Humans are desperate for patterns and reasons because the idea
of random evil that could not have been anticipated and
we cannot avoid in the future is too terrifying for people.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Well, it'd be overwhelming if you believed it was very
likely to happen to you. Luckily. The reason, like I
said yesterday, the reason this story gets so much attention,
or these stories, they're so rare.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Thank god, rot in your cage, sub human scum and
condolences to the poor, poor families.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Anyway, enough of that, Michael. Do we have transition music? Andy?
I need it. I need it desperately. Never mind the audience.
I need it. What about my need music that will
wipe our brains clean of what we just talked about.
(26:12):
I wish I'd learned to play the sacks. It's too
late now. Which one's the low ones, the alto sax,
the lower sex? Well, no, the baritone sax is the
lowest lowes. Your tenor, than your alto, than your soprano
usually have its usually tenors and altos. And the jazz
bands I watched them, Yeah, this is a tenor. I
(26:33):
told you.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Tenner sax is the one that really has the honk in,
like in the same range as a human voice, sexy
note bending.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I love that sound. Yeah, it's cool. Uh, I don't
think I talked about this jazz band that I went
to see in New York City so my kids. I
got away from my kids for an hour during my
vacation and I went and watched this a jazz band
at a jazz club in on the Upper West Side,
and it was very cool. It's just like you would
(27:05):
picture this sort of thing straight out of a movie,
tiny little place, sitting at tables and them playing jazz
like you've heard your whole life up there. And the
thing that struck me is how freaking old these people were.
Getting back to the theme of you might be you
might not be able to walk or talk or remember
(27:27):
what you put your car keys, but apparently as if
you got any musical talent, that continues. I mean, these
guys were freaking old. They had to be all in
their eighties, but just wailing on saxophone, trumpet, piano, trombone.
I mean it was just fantastic. Ah, that sounds great,
(27:48):
sound jealous. It just blows my mind that that that
is a cool thing. Yeah. Uh, Anyway, I gotta admit, though,
I'm a big jazz fan, Like I've been a jazz
fan for what ten years now or something like, that's huge.
I just absolutely love it, gangod enough, But I'm not
certain I could tell great from bad, let alone pretty
(28:10):
good from excellent. Oh yeah, there's.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
The great trombone Joey Legend, oh elephant, one of these
guys who get long done with like a five minute
trombone or a trumpet solo.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
And I would think, do I know if that was
great or not? I don't.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I don't really know, but you know, it satisfied me. Yeah,
I'm sorry, I'm reliving all sorts of musical memories. I'll
leave it alone. But no, I see your point exactly absolutely.
Speaking of the stages of life, there's a new trend
in parenting, because everything's got to be a trend and
everything's got to have a name. Apparently, goodbye gentle parenting.
(28:59):
Parent saying not parroting Goodbye gentle parenting, Hello, f around
and find out, which is kind of like the entire
history of human parenting making a.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Comeback, right, Yeah, I want to hear this. That sounds
like what they're doing in Europe. We've talked about that
a little bit and certainly sounds like a better direction
than we have been going. So yeah, we've got that
on the way. Also, we got a fun thing an
hour three. Our executive producer Mike Hanson's spent a fair
(29:30):
amount of time learning how to make songs with AI
and he's gonna explain to us how you go about
doing that if you want to make a song for
your anniversary or your you know, your your dad's birthday
or whatever. It's not that hard from what I understand.
Watching Hands will play you some of the hilarious examples exactly.
So we got that in hour three. Stay here. Kamala
(29:54):
Harris is ex lover Willie Brown.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Doesn't think she can successfully campaign for California governor.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And it's better suited for a legal role.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Well that's a good thing she loves buses because she
just got.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Thrown under one. Yeah, you could have been worse, believe me.
Willie Brown doesn't think she can win. Yeah, well, I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
That's why he's one of the most successful politicians in
the history of for instance, cal Unicornia, because he's a
smart guy.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
We'll have to ask former Little League star Joe Getty
his opinion on the hot topic of Little League across
America bat flipping. Are you okay with it or not?
Various kids getting kicked out of games are suspended from
the league for flipping their bat after a home run.
I have a hot take for you. I want to
hear it. If you can handle it, Jee, I think
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I can.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Also, as I've said many times, Trump makes me insane
on a lot of topics. I think the tariff thing
is is just dopey. I'm not digging it at all.
On the other hand, the progress that's being made in
rolling back the horrific child abuse that is gender affirm
and care, the progress being made is amazing and it's
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saving thousands of kids from this terrible experimenting on their body.
It's wonderful and we'll talk about that more next hour.
Speaking of parenting and kids and that sort of thing,
I'm amused and annoyed in the modern world, everything has
to be a trend, and then everybody has to write
about it. Then everybody has well, it has to have
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a name, obviously, and then as it peaks and there's
a backlash, everybody has to write about that and name
it as well. As opposed to people just living their
lives and doing what they've been taught to do or
learn to do or whatever. It's got to be a
trend anyway. The headline is Goodbye gentle parenting, Hello, f
around and find out. It was only a few months ago,
(31:55):
Jack that I think I became fully aware of having
run into it in real life's times people talking about
friends their kids. See I'm grandparent agent at this point.
So a handful of my friends have talked about, oh
my god, my daughter is into the gentle parenting thing,
and Junior can do anything he wants, and instead of
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there being repercussions, mom just explains why that's less than
pleasing behavior and tries to re engage him in doing
something else, and of course the kid becomes a monster.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And it's funny.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
It opens with a story of a woman who tried
lots of ways to discipline her rambunctious thirteen year old,
including making him write sentences one hundred times, the classic
number of times I had to do that. But when
he sprayed her with a water gun at a campground
after she asked him not to, she's only solemnly one option.
She threw him in the pond, clothes and all. Sometimes
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the best left sins in life are the hard ones.
She said, Wow, that's not much of a repercussion, though,
if your kid a kid being thrown in a lake.
Fafo fafo often pronounced fafo short for f around and
find out the language.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
It's a die, don't either.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
It's a child rearing style that elevates consequences over the
gentle parenting methods that have helped shape gen Z. Parenting
is so much simpler and so much more complicated than
people give it credit for. They have to call it
f around and find out because that's kind of a
popular phrase.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Now. No, it's it's setting limits.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
And making clear there will be consequences if those limits
are exceeded or not met, depending on what we're talking about,
and then if there are violations, there are repercussions. Doesn't
need a nickname. It's called parenting. It's called modifying behavior
and they they write a fair amount about what should
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seem patently obvious to most people, but they do get
into something. I believe parenting that's light on discipline has
dominated the culture in recent decades, but critics blamed the
approach for some of gen Z's problems in adulthood.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Or people who are into the obvious. Yeah, anybody who's sane. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
They cite surveys that show young adults struggling with workplace relationships.
Was it because their parents never told them no? And
suffering from depression and anxiety? Was it because their parents
refereed all of their problems? For parents who spent years
trying to meet their children's emotional needs without slipping into
avert permissiveness, faffo can sound blessedly simple. Again, I guess,
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I guess you know you need somebody to read your article,
so you try to put a new spin on it.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
I don't believe this is made up.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
The return to reasonable consequences for bad behavior.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Well, I hope that it's not made up. We certainly
know the setup is true, that there's been a move
toward not letting your kids figure out anything in life.
Helicopter parenting. Who is I talking to the other day
who said their drone parents. They said, we've updated it.
It's funny. He and his wife were like, I know,
everybody makes fun of it. We're helicopter parents. Actually, Carlo
(35:14):
serves drone parents to be more modern, but we're absolutely
drone parents. And they are like gleeful about it. Wow,
I pity their kid. Well, I don't know what he's specifically,
but oh they're very nice people. Yeah, yeah, uh yeah, miss.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
You know, the misguided kindness is one of the biggest
problems in parenting anyway. Oh, we don't have time to
get into it thoroughly. Faffo parents goes by a lot
of names. Parenting goes by a lot of names, tough love,
authoritative parenting, or has this one person put it a
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method to.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Out feral their feral I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
This is so dumb, this discussion having any rules about
that any make it clear that there are limits and
that there will be consequences when those limits are exceeded. Then,
as I've said many times through the years, not recently
because my kids are grown, never threaten a consequence you're
not prepared to deliver, and never failed to deliver the
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consequence that you promised.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
It's very simple. How do you make those AI songs
that you hear all the time, Well, it's not that hard.
I don't think We're gonna have a little tutorial in
hour three from our executive producer Hands and hope you
can catch that Armstrong and Getty
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