August 8, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- The talks with Putin & training children for war
- Chemtrails & the apocalypse
- The Hamas hostages & the media bias
- Kristi Noem responds to South Park
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Gatty enough He Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'm told the Trump Putin summit is tentatively scheduled for
the end of next week. It will be President Trump's
first sit down with Putin since twenty nineteen at the
G twenty summit in Osaka. The location for this meeting
is still up in the air, but I'm told that Hungary, Switzerland,
and UAE are in the mix. There were also some
discussions about Rome.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Ah. That is going to be something else. Man Trump
and Putin face to face. Let's get some more reporting.
This that was from Fox. This is from News Nation.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Yeah, people here are highly skeptical that anything tangible is
really going to come out of this, or that Russia
is even sincere about wanting to move towards peace. And
I can tell you that the leadership here in Kiev,
Ukrainian President vladimir's Lensky all watching this dialogue very closely
because President Zelensky is making very clear he wants a
seat at this negotiating table. His team is already going
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through strategies if it's a bilateral format or a trilateral
format between all of these leaders, but he wants to
make sure that they have a voice at the negotiating table.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Well, yeah, and before we get into the details on this,
here's where the rubber meets the road on the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
If you listen to Russia's long list of demands right now,
they include large scale demilitarizations in Ukraine, territorial concessions that
include places that Russia hasn't even annexed yet, as well
as guarantees that Ukraine will not move towards NATO membership.
Demands that steep are being widely rejected by the Ukrainian public,
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So there would have to be more negotiations on this,
and that's a large part of the reason that people
here are not highly optimistic that Russia sincere but because
they aren't.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
You know, the classic negotiating stance would be they're making
maximalist demands but are willing to settle for good deal less,
which is I just don't well, right, but I just
don't see that being Putin's strategy here. You know, even
if he were to get you know, sixty percent of
that and the Ukrainians have disarmed, he would wait six
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months or twelve months or three and a half years
to re constitute US forces, then move on the rest
of it.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
To me, the whole story, and we're going to know
some of it today is sanctions are supposed to kick
in on India and others who are buying oil from
Russia and helping prop up the war machine. That was
Trump's threat. The deadline is today. If Trump comes out
at some point today and says we're putting a pause
on that since we've got active talks being discussed here,
(02:59):
I think he got punked.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I think he completely got punk because.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
The only reason Putin's doing this is, oh Jesus, sanctions
are coming Friday, and he's doing the thing he always does,
and so he's pretending he's interested in the ceasefire. And
if Trump delays it and then and then actually meets
with him in Rome or wherever the hell, and then
comes out of that meeting and says, we had a
really good talk, really substantive talks, and we're discussing various things.
(03:24):
So while we're discussing that, the the the.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Uh what do you call it?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
The word that never means the sanctions that never come
to anything ever in my life have they ever come
to anything. The sanctions are on hold, and Putin will
get another month or so of killing civilians in Ukraine
to see if he can finally win this thing on
his own.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Kick the guy down the road.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
If Trump falls for that, he's not the guy I
thought he was. Well, he's already discussed that a couple
of times. What was that.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
He came up with an expression I had never heard before.
He's tapping me along.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So he's aware of it.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
But if he allows himself to be tapped along for
another weeks or months over this phony situation, give me
a break.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Unless unless the reality is.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Trump doesn't actually want well I believe he wants to
stop the war, So I don't I don't know, I
have no idea.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Well, he has said essentially, I want to stop the war,
no matter what it takes, and the Ukrainian people and
Zelenski are saying no, no, no, no, no, no no,
not no matter what it takes.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
There's a limit.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And in fact, there are some somewhat conflicting polls. Fox
News last night was citing one that said, and this
is from memory, so forgive me if it's not quite accurate,
but there were only like a quarter of Ukrainians who
said we need to fight on until victory is achieved,
and roughly two thirds were saying we need to enter
negotiations to war and the war as quickly as possible.
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On the other hand, you have this major poll in
Ukraine conducted by Ukrainians found that only thirty eight percent
of Ukrainians would accept some losses of land for peace,
with fifty two percent firmly against quote unquote territorial concessions,
although that number has declined somewhat since twenty twenty two,
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but it's fifty two to thirty eight on territorial concessions.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Even at this point that's something sixty eight percent oppose
official recognition of Russian control of occupied territories and seventy
eight percent reject the surrender of regions not currently under
Russian control, as Putin has demanded, as you just heard
in that clip there. Yeah, Putin not only wants to
keep what he's grabbed, he's talking about parts he hasn't
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grabbed yet that he says he gets. I mean, that's
a non starter, right, right, And there's an article in
I think it's in Time magazine today done by some
of the journalists at the Telegraph, with a deeper dive
than I'd seen before on all those thousands and thousands
of Ukrainian children that have been grabbed by Russian soldiers
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and brought back to Russian territory and are being brainwashed
and trained militarily depending on their age. And now this
was reported yesterday by who somebody I believe, I mean,
like a legitimate news source. There is a website in
Russia now where you can go on and take a
look at all the Ukrainian children and pick which one
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you'd like for your family. They just the apartments just
snatched up children that are just going to be given
to Russian families.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Well, and one of the main points of this piece
that I'm looking at right now, which is so interesting,
it follows this successful young Ukrainian American woman who had
a really good job with Morgan Stanley, but she went
back to her home country to become a combat medic.
But anyway, the point that several people make in this
piece is that look, this is not just about the land.
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This is about all the people who live there, and
they're Ukrainians and they're either going to be oppressed or
shoved off the land, and it will be uh, there
will be Russian conquistadors, occupiers, colonists, whatever who come in
and take the land, and we don't want to see
that happen to our people, never mind our land.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
There are a couple of global situations right now. I
look at one side's demands and the other side's demands, and.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
There's no bridge in that gap.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Trump is not said, as far as I know yet,
yesterday and today does is the day? Is today still
the deadline on the sanctions or is he backing off that?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
No idea.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
God, I think he's going to have to say today
if he backs off, And I think.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Wow, I sorry. One more stray note, sort of kind of.
The Ukrainians have repelled the late summer Russian offensive and
actually recaptured several square miles of land, but I think
to describe it as more or less a stalemate is
still pretty accurate.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Uh, stalemate against a much much bigger country that doesn't
care how many millions of people die.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Apparently thousands Ukrainians are horrified by what Miss Zaiva Zarevna,
who's quoting this article, describes as a large scale state
policy of militarizing Ukrainian children forcibly transferred children are the
most vulnerable, but use and occupied territories are also pushed
into military training, including the operation of drones and tactical
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medical instruction. Russia is preparing them to fight against Ukraine
as soon as they turn eighteen.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
And it's not like you'll have a choice even if,
even if the brainwashing didn't work, you're going to be
sent to the front lines with a gun at your back.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You want us to shoot you or do you want
to move forward and get shot? Right? Yeah? God, that's brutal,
absolutely brutal.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
What's your guest? Does Trump back back off on the
sanction today?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
My guess which, oh, well, on that specifically, I don't know,
coin flip, But on the bigger, more troubling question to me,
to me, I have a bad feeling that he is
going to demand and then be rate Zelenski and the
Ukrainian people into giving up way more than they're comfortable
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with to achieve the end of the killing, which seems
to be Trump's main goal, and he will say we
will not arm you anymore, you need to take this agreement.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
And then that would just be the temporary end of
the killing, because then Putin starts it back up again
as soon as you can. Yeah, and why wouldn't he
since it worked?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Oh yeah, And that's just his nature and his goals,
his stated goals. Wow, to take as much territory as possible, Hanson.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
If Trump makes a statement on the sanctions, whether he's
sticking with him or not, let us know, that's a
big story. We got other stuff to get to stay here.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
So okay, So we piloted the back of your of
your car.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
It's a backseat. You got a driver.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
We drove, took a quick left, got out to another bar.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's the same building we drove. We drove from. We
drove from one door to another door. Yeah, nice ride.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
Yes's yead So I think he wanted to impress it.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You had a driver. That's funny.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
So Gutfeld's on Jimmy Fallon last night telling stories about
the time we met. Fallon has no memory of it.
So I was late at night. Fellon enjoys his booze,
as we all.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Know, uncomfortable shades of when I jumped into a cab
in Chicago and had the guy take me next door.
I did the same thing. I've told this story a
different street. It was Kitty Corner. I didn't recognize it.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
No, I did this in Key West. It was long
before Ubers. I called a taxi from the hotel to
take me to the airport in Key West and he said,
you need to go to the airport.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I said, yeah, he drives like ten feet. We're here.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Hotel's next to the airport. Wow, the airport is very small.
I gotta ask you this question. Oh yeah, I saw
that Nancy Mace is running for governor in South Carolina.
That that's not important to me, but I saw that
one of the things she's running on is outlawing chemtrails
in the state, and that several states already have like
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com trails.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Like the the the like.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, the airplane just went by the The conspiracy people
call him chemtrails. Okay, fine, what what is what is
outlawing chemtrails? I can't Are you going to close the
airspace or what?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I don't I don't know. If you see one, do.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
You call the police and try to figure out which
plane plane did that?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
She is at least half a nut. Nancy Mace.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I know people that like spend a lot of time
really worried about kem trails and what it's doing to them.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
But okay, didn't know that was the thing.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, I admire that about you. You you rubbed elbows
with some frazy people. Some Yeah, well okay there you
not to put too fine a point on it.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But do you know who David Mammett is.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
He's a screenwriter, a film director, just a writer in general.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
So Glen Glenross to say, I just read Glengarry Glenn
Ross last year, the actual screenplay from him. One of
my all time favorite movies top five. He's got a
Tony nomination. The rest of his stuff not that prominent.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Oh the Postman Always Rings twice in nineteen eighty one
The Untouchables.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
There we go, Hafa Wag the dog Hannibal. I didn't
know his Untouchables. Also, he wrote a.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Really funny piece about the fact that American billionaires apparently
have prepared compounds in New Zealand in case of the apocalypse.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
What's their version of the apocalypse? When yet hitting the
fan man, societal break down?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It all going down?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Oh, comes on, Glenn dude, and it's funny, he starts.
He writes a piece here, and he talks about he
used to fly airplanes out of the Santa Monica Airport,
which is close to his home, and he was talking
to a fellow pilot that one of the benefits of
having a pilot's license and the ability to fly a
plane was that if society breaks down, I can fly
my family out. And he said, yeah, true. But your
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problem is going to be the last one hundred yards
before the airport. So Mammott points out, So, I guess
American billionaires have prepared compounds in New Zealand in case
of the apocalypse. I'm totally unaware of this, but I
love his thinking.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
So and those.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Compounds, of course have everything the group's gonna need, air, water, food,
entertainment ready to receive them to live in comfortment.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
That's funny. I'm preparing for the apocalypse. There better be
some entertainment when I get there. I want a nice
stack of DVDs ready to play.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Well and good. He writes. But their fantasy, like mine,
is flawed. For what is the size.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Of the group for which they foresee transportation protection and
perpetual care? And then then he uses the historical example
of the Ottoman Turks, who raised enslaved mamelukes to the
status of first of guards, then of administrators. And that
was fine until the mamelukes did the math and realized
we don't need the Turks. And so here's where the part.
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I like because this is great logic, and I don't
think I would have thought of this. Some of the
pilots of the billionaire's getaway planes would surely have families, right,
Happily married pilots would logically insist their families come along
for the ride rather than stay and die. The billionaire's
wealth would avail them nothing, for they couldn't escape without
the pilots or pay a man enough to forfeit his
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family's life. Probably, yes, the wealthy would have armed guards
to ensure their own family got safely on board.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Wouldn't the guards insist that they and the loved ones
go along to Of course they would.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
This is pretty good, and the ground crews servicing the
plane would, by this logic act similarly if staying behind
meant death, what would they risk by demanding their inclusion.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
What's the rich guy gonna do stop their paycheck?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Right?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
This plane offers the soul escape. So I'm out there
airing up the tires. Yep, I'll have these tires right up,
and you can disappear off your island and live an
enjoyable life while I get slaughtered by the hordes.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
There have all the gunfires getting closer. Have a pleasant fly.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Now, Mammot points out there is a limitation. The plane
can only carry so much weight. If you overloaded, won't
get off the ground. At some point those on the
plane would have to use arms to keep the late
comer hordes off. The guards then would realize themselves to
be the enlightened Mamma lukes. If they're the only ones
capable of keeping order, and if money is now useless,
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they have no need of their employer.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Correct on the plane, he would be dead weight and
in the New Zealand bunker just a useless mouth to feed.
So the caretakers, builders, security guards and so on of
the compound would insist on being a dominated if they
hadn't already barricaded themselves in and locked the plutocrats out,
or you shoot them halfway across the ocean and push
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them out of the plane, or whatever that's up.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You know what, that would be one way to you know,
break up the flight. Hey, kids, I know you're restless,
but hey, in a couple of minutes, I got a
big surprise for you.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
That is the problem with those kind of deals.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I just read To Have and Have Not again, the
Ernest Hemingway book, and that's one of the plot points
in there. If anybody's ever read it, you know, he's
doing some smuggling operation and the super rich guy who
hires him. They head out on the boat. So as
they got on the boat, the lead character realizes I
don't need you anymore. I got the money you're into.
All you're doing is making my life worse, shoots them
and that's the end of.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
That, right right. Yeah, so uh huh, that's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Well, I would like to know what these billionaires, what
sort of calamity are you expecting? I mean, are some
of you global warming weirdos or immigrant hordes or what
are you?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Just to break down a society civil war, I guess
I'm just going to keep firing until I'm out of ammon,
you know, swing the fists.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I guess how far strong and getty.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
The fact that the Israeli security cabinet took about ten
hours to debate this issue, debate this measure, and finally agree.
It is I think a sign of how much division
there is in the Israeli government about how to proceed
with Gaza. And that's a division that's reflected countrywide. Opinion
polls have consistently indicated that about seventy percent of Israelis
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want an end to the war in Gaza as soon
as possible, and a sense of normality to return to
their country, and of course the hostages to be brought back.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
God, that is such a biased view of that whole thing.
And by the way, last year's clip of the year,
it was the number one clip we had of the year,
was release the Sausages. How we never had that whenever
we're talking about hostages. Come on, Michael is In, the
employee of Big Bacon, evidently won't play the sausage clip.
And I realized it's a serious topic. But that is
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also one of the greatest clips of all time. But
that's such a so the fact that there's internal descent, Okay, fine,
there always is. We've been talking about the dropping of
the bomb. There was all kinds of descent about that.
But the prevailing view was we got to drop the
bomb on Japan. So what I mean, how often is
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it a one hundred percent of people are with this
the war cabinet that is a combination of different parts
of different factions of the government. That net Ya, who
is the head of voted to occupy Gazen, get rid
of Homas, and we talked about that a little bit earlier.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
That seventy percent poll we mentioned one an end of
the war.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah, I'm surprised it's not one hundred percent one and
end the war. But when you ask more specific questions
about what you gotta do, it's not as clear cut.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
And yeah, the whole question. They want the word to
end as soon as possible. Okay, Look, among humans, there
are always parameters to that sort of thing. We want
the war to end as soon as possible.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Given these co you know the truths.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
If that means like Israel ceases to exist, no, then no,
I don't want the war to end as soon as possible.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Obviously, that's that's a that's an answer in search of
a question by that polster.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Here's CNN. That was That was CNN's view. This is
ABC's view.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
I guess expanding the war to occupy all of Gaza
and any short term hopes of a ceasefire, and it
means hundreds of thousands of people being forcibly relocated in
the midst of what most concede is a humanitarian crisis.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Mertury leaders fear it could.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Take months and risks Israeli forces becoming bogbed with no
clear exits strategy. They've been widespread demonstrations here in Israel
against the plans, and the families of the hostage is
still being held in Gaza kind of being moved saying
it'll endanger the lives of their loved one.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, without any mention of the fact.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
But the majority of the people want Hamas to be dead.
And so what there have been widespreads I mean, what
is the point of that in the international outrage in
the international community always hates Israel no matter what they're doing.
And then what was the other part, Oh, this is
going to make it impossible to have a ceasefire.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
There was never going to be a ceasefire.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
No, that was ridiculous. I almost jumped it in the
middle of the clip. Yeah, so that sort of stuff
is driving me nuts.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
I call again from immediate ceasefire in Gaza.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
The return of the sausage the hospital still makes me laugh.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
That is just unbelievable. Oh, one of the greatest gaffs
of all time.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I wonder if he wakes up thinking about that nearly
every night. But then I wanted to get This is
a piece Jodah Goldberg wrote the other day. I thought
it was really good, and you know, we're just talking
about the bias and the news coverage of this, and
I was glad Jonah wrote this, and on which I
wish it was described this way more places. His piece
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was called the death Cult Prison Gang, that is Hamas.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
He starts with.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
The claim that Gaza was in the world's largest open
air prison that we heard so much about right after
October seventh. In the wake up October seventh, when defenders
of Hamas desperately needed to provide some context to justify
the rape and slaughter that Hamas had perpetrated upon Israel,
the whole open air prison thing went viral, popping out
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of the mouths of journalists and government officials all around
the world. In fact, there's some media analysis out there
that Jonah Goldberg links to.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
If you want to watch it I did.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Has a useful compilation of videos and what Gaza looked
like prior to this war, which was launched by Hama.
It's not Israel. In case you're confused about that, if
you watch, say Al Jazeera's twenty seventeen report on Gaza's
economic boom, complete with shopping malls, crowded beaches, and a
water park, it certainly doesn't look like the prisoner concentration
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camp described by all those statesmen, intellectuals, journalists are un pouhbas.
Right after October seventh, you never hear about that well,
And the documents have been found, and I believe firmly
that they're authentic, in which ya Ya Sinwar stated, we
launched the October seventh attacks because we had Torayl to
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derail the Israeli Saudi agreement. That would have been the
end of our dream of wiping the Jews off the map.
We had to derail.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It back to Jonah's peace.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
The numbers never really backed up the whole world's largest
open prison claim either. Every day prior to October seventh,
Palestinians left Gaza for work in Israel. Moreover, roughly a
quarter of a million and young Palestinians migrated left to
work or study abroad in the decade and a half
prior got to leave and come and go and go
study in some other land. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahoo
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allowed billions in Katari and other aid money to get
funneled to Hamas. Net Yahoo justified it on the grounds
it was necessary to fend off a humanitarian crisis. Of course,
nobody remembers that now that they gave him all that money.
He made the as Jonah Goldsberg points out, the incorrect
bet that allowing all this aid and for Hamas to
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build up Gaza, that they would become a you know,
not hell bent on destroying Jews. He was wrong about that,
and he could be criticized for that, But how are
you at the same time criticizing him now for wanting
to starve everybody.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And that is also the source of the bizarre narrative
that net and Yahu quote unquote finance Tamas. He actually
gave them money. He wanted them to exist for his
political purposes, they say in the conspiracy soaked corners of
the Internet.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Okay, so that's this, the whole, the whole.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
It was an open air prison in a hell hole
before Hamas went into the most recent time in Israel
and caused all this to happen. Onto this though what
I really liked. Gaza may not be a prison, but
Hamas is a prison gang. Hamas is almost and is
also an Islamist genocidal death cult. In practical terms. Most
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of the time, it runs Gaza like a prison gang.
This shouldn't surprise anyone. Prisons and terror groups have had
a chicken and egg relationship for generations. The Muslim Brotherhood,
Islamic jihad Isis, the Irish Republican Army, Bolsheviks, various American
neo Nazi groups, various far left euro parent tear out
terror outfits.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
The list goes on.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
What's special about Hamas is that it operates like a
prison gang when not in prison. All those examples of
people were in prison or they were getting all this money.
They could have used this money to build up a
fantastic society, right, and they decided to run the little
strip of land that is known as Gaza as a
like a prison gang.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And Israel foolishly incorrectly thought, okay, now they're just governing
few finally, But no, they were building up to something
like October seventh.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
He quotes this book that's all about prison gangs to
explain what he means by Hamas is like a prison gang.
Prison gangs regulate violence, enforce order, control resources, and manage
access to black markets. That's what Hamas has been doing
in Gaza for years. Armed violence that falls on AID
convoys isn't all orchestrated by Hamas, but it's a safe
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bet that most of it wouldn't happen without Hamas allowing
it or directing it.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Obviously, you couldn't be.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Some half assed gang stealing the food and Hamas would say,
damn it, they got it again.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
They would wipe you outys. Watch few episodes of the Sopranos. Yeah,
good point.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Anyway, it goes on and on about what an awful,
awful Hamas is, how much better Gaza was prior to
the war in a way that seems to have been forgotten.
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Speaker 4 (27:15):
By the way, what the war cabinet there in Israel
voted for yesterday? It approved five principles for ending the
war that include the disarming of Hamas and I'll see
how you gonna do that without killing them all, the
return of all fifty hostages, twenty of whom are believed
to be alive. The demilitarization of Gaza, Israeli security control
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over the enclave, and the establishment of an alternative civilian
administration there that doesn't involve Hamas with the Palestinian authority Netnyah,
who is making it clear that they have no interest
in running Gaza. But if you do all the things,
the five things that were approved by the Work Cabinet,
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you're gonna be run until you.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Can find somebody to take it off your hands. And
I don't know how that's going to work. Yeah, Yeah,
this will be something to watch. It's going to be ugly.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
The reporting on it is going to be completely misleading.
It's going to be ugly to start with. Then add
on to it the reporting in the fact that every
country in the world hates Israel.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, there are I think you can divide humanity into
a couple of groups of people, and I have no
idea what percentage are which, But you've got one group
of people who win, faced with a couple of really bad.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Options.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Picks one takes a heavy sigh and does it, And
there are a hundred examples from real life or geopolitics
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
It's almost it's like the whole if your kid didn't
do their homework, do you hurriedly do it for them
or do you let them suffer the consequence for it.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
It's a similar thing.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
So you got a certain number of people who understand
this is terrible and I don't want to do this,
but I've got to.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And then you do it.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
And then there are the sort of people and I
run into them all the time, or I see them
on TV or whatever, who, when faced with such a
terrible decision, say, there's got to be another way. And
you can spend days, weeks, and months exhausting every other
possible way, and they will never accept the fact that
you have to do something really difficult. They will just
(29:27):
keep saying, no, that's too ugly, we won't do that.
There's got to be another way. And then when somebody
a realist, has to choose and has to act, they
will sit back. They will condemn that person for their choice,
whichever choice they made, and claim the in their own minds,
moral high ground. And I don't know if the realists
(29:49):
are outnumbered, you know, four to one or five to
one or ten to one, but I think we are outnumbered.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, it's the classic passive a situation you get get
you have such a great lofty bought to be a
pacifist and not have to deal with the reality of
how you solve a problem.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
They keep running a certain video on a loop on Fox.
I want to talk about it at some point whether
this is good for society or bad for society, and
I'm not exactly sure.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I keep going back and forth, among other things. Stay here, armstrong,
Hey yetty. Welcome to the team recruits.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
I'm Christy Nolan.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I'm head of Homeland Security.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
A few years ago, I had to put my puppy
down by shooting it in the pigs, because sometimes doing
what's important means doing what's hard.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Whoa, whoa.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Now we'll ask the same determination of you.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Okay, so boy, that's out dark. I don't know if
you could tell what was going on there, but that
was South Park portraying our current Secretary of d h US.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
As a dog shooter, which she is, but I justified.
We've talked about that. But well, they have her shooting
dogs for fun.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Wherever she sees them, including in restaurants. It's rather dark
and over the top, South Park. I expect you to
be more restrained and tasteful. Well.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
She has responded to some of the portrayal. Today, DH
Secretary Christy Nome blasts South Park after show brutally mocks
her appearance.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Is the angle on this?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I didn't I haven't watched the episode, so apparently they
mocked her appearance. Also, Christy Noam has blasted the creators
as lazy and petty after the show cruelly mocked her appearance,
depicting her as a vain, botoxed bimbo. I just saw
her on TV just moments ago. I don't know how
you can mock that woman's appearance. I mean, whatever you
think of her politics or views or this or that,
(31:53):
you cannot say she's not an attractive person because she's
well and super crazy dolled up too.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
She's gonna don some victorious secret stuff and walk the runway.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I guess it's a matter of opinion, but she doesn't
look freakish to me. To me, I have mocked it too.
It's weird that you're so glam as a government official.
But she doesn't look weird like Bezos's wife or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
To me, maybe you have different tastes.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
A little lip filler.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I don't know, but little knows. It never ends.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
But it's so lazy to constantly make fun of women
for how they look. No said, it's always the liberals
and the extremists who do that. If they wanted to
criticize my job, go ahead and do that, but clearly
they can't.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
They just pick something petty like that.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
It helps to blast back at somebody criticizing your parents
when you're a very attractive person.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Of course, it's easier, so.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
She doesn't mention the whole I don't actually shoot dogs
in restaurants for fun.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
That's good, right, done them down on the streets, right,
Is that what they have sometimes with automatic weapons?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yes, it's very bloody. It's terrible. I guess, I know.
I you know.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
I've known for years that some of you cannot enjoy
jokes if they're against your side in any way. I
mostly can not always sometimes it really really pisses me off.
But like, I don't know, I find that hilarious and
inaccurate and wrong and all kinds stuff. But I still
find it hilarious, right as just satire.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Often humor is about easing your way to a difficult truth.
Sometimes it's just to make you laugh, right, And that's
you know, that's the question. Oh hey, I don't know
if I have time for this, but I wanted to
tip my cap to the Oregonian in their website Oregon Live.
And they are liberals as you might expect, being you know,
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they're journalists in Oregon. But they had a great editorial
the other day about the the and we talked about
this episode.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Oregon Rep.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Dwayne Yunker was reading loud from sexually explicit books porn
that was put into the school libraries by progressives teachers
and librarians, and his point was being, look, this is
not appropriate.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Let me read it for you.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
And people are going crazy there on the floor of
the house, saying, you can't read that here, it's inappropriate,
the irony being as big as a skyscraper, but still
not big enough for them to get apparently. And then
the state of Oregon, which is so up its own
hind end and crazy, launched an investigation by the Legislative
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Equity Office that's concluded that Younker's action could have created
a hostile workplace and affected employee's abilities to do their job. Therefore,
because it was sexually explicit, he was forbidden for discussing
it on the floor.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Of the legislature. Something that's in schools.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
If you don't get the I mean, it's so obvious, now,
can I have that?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Put it out to you?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Totalitarian jiu jitsu that they're pulling there. You're far too
stupid to listen to the show, and I suggest you stop.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, anyway, no kidding Oregonians.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
It's like straight out of Catch twenty two, the Book
of Craziness.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, we're gonna introduce porn into the library, but you
can't bring it out because that would be obscene.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
So anyway, there you go.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
But no, The Oregonian, in an editorial headline politics is
not a safe space, says, it's absolutely ridiculous and unacceptable
that you can't discuss this very political issue in the
halls of politics. And the state ought to wake up,
and the legislature recognized the constitutional protections guaranteeing freedom of
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speech and expression must be taken into account and determining
the rights afforded individuals in the state capital under whatever rule.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
So anyway, good for you Oregonian.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
We do twenty hours of live radio every week, and
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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'm told the Trump Putin summit is tentatively scheduled for
the end of next week. It will be President Trump's
first sit down with Putin since twenty nineteen at the
G twenty summit in Osaka. The location for this meeting
is still up in the air, but I'm told that Hungary, Switzerland,
and UAE are in the mix. There were also some
discussions about Rome.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Ah. That is going to be something else. Man Trump
and Putin face to face. Let's get some more reporting.
This that was from Fox. This is from News Nation.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Yeah, people here are highly skeptical that anything tangible is
really going to come out of this, or that Russia
is even sincere about wanting to move towards peace. And
I can tell you that the leadership here in Kiev,
Ukrainian President vladimir's Lensky all watching this dialogue very closely
because President Zelensky is making very clear he wants a
seat at this negotiating table. His team is already going
(01:19):
through strategies if it's a bilateral format or a trilateral
format between all of these leaders, but he wants to
make sure that they have a voice at the negotiating table.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Well, yeah, and before we get into the details on this,
here's where the rubber meets the road on the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
If you listen to Russia's long list of demands right now,
they include large scale demilitarizations in Ukraine, territorial concessions that
include places that Russia hasn't even annexed yet, as well
as guarantees that Ukraine will not move towards NATO membership.
Demands that steep are being widely rejected by the Ukrainian public,
(01:55):
So there would have to be more negotiations on this,
and that's a large part of the reason that people
here are not highly optimistic that Russia sincere but because
they aren't.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
You know, the classic negotiating stance would be they're making
maximalist demands but are willing to settle for good deal less,
which is I just don't well, right, but I just
don't see that being Putin's strategy here. You know, even
if he were to get you know, sixty percent of
that and the Ukrainians have disarmed, he would wait six
(02:29):
months or twelve months or three and a half years
to re constitute US forces, then move on the rest
of it.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
To me, the whole story, and we're going to know
some of it today is sanctions are supposed to kick
in on India and others who are buying oil from
Russia and helping prop up the war machine. That was
Trump's threat. The deadline is today. If Trump comes out
at some point today and says we're putting a pause
on that since we've got active talks being discussed here,
(02:59):
I think he got punked.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I think he completely got punk because.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
The only reason Putin's doing this is, oh Jesus, sanctions
are coming Friday, and he's doing the thing he always does,
and so he's pretending he's interested in the ceasefire. And
if Trump delays it and then and then actually meets
with him in Rome or wherever the hell, and then
comes out of that meeting and says, we had a
really good talk, really substantive talks, and we're discussing various things.
(03:24):
So while we're discussing that, the the the.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Uh what do you call it?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
The word that never means the sanctions that never come
to anything ever in my life have they ever come
to anything. The sanctions are on hold, and Putin will
get another month or so of killing civilians in Ukraine
to see if he can finally win this thing on
his own.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Kick the guy down the road.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
If Trump falls for that, he's not the guy I
thought he was. Well, he's already discussed that a couple
of times. What was that.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
He came up with an expression I had never heard before.
He's tapping me along.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So he's aware of it.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
But if he allows himself to be tapped along for
another weeks or months over this phony situation, give me
a break.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Unless unless the reality is.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Trump doesn't actually want well I believe he wants to
stop the war, So I don't I don't know, I
have no idea.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Well, he has said essentially, I want to stop the war,
no matter what it takes, and the Ukrainian people and
Zelenski are saying no, no, no, no, no, no no,
not no matter what it takes.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
There's a limit.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And in fact, there are some somewhat conflicting polls. Fox
News last night was citing one that said, and this
is from memory, so forgive me if it's not quite accurate,
but there were only like a quarter of Ukrainians who
said we need to fight on until victory is achieved,
and roughly two thirds were saying we need to enter
negotiations to war and the war as quickly as possible.
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On the other hand, you have this major poll in
Ukraine conducted by Ukrainians found that only thirty eight percent
of Ukrainians would accept some losses of land for peace,
with fifty two percent firmly against quote unquote territorial concessions,
although that number has declined somewhat since twenty twenty two,
(05:18):
but it's fifty two to thirty eight on territorial concessions.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Even at this point that's something sixty eight percent oppose
official recognition of Russian control of occupied territories and seventy
eight percent reject the surrender of regions not currently under
Russian control, as Putin has demanded, as you just heard
in that clip there. Yeah, Putin not only wants to
keep what he's grabbed, he's talking about parts he hasn't
(05:43):
grabbed yet that he says he gets. I mean, that's
a non starter, right, right, And there's an article in
I think it's in Time magazine today done by some
of the journalists at the Telegraph, with a deeper dive
than I'd seen before on all those thousands and thousands
of Ukrainian children that have been grabbed by Russian soldiers
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and brought back to Russian territory and are being brainwashed
and trained militarily depending on their age. And now this
was reported yesterday by who somebody I believe, I mean,
like a legitimate news source. There is a website in
Russia now where you can go on and take a
look at all the Ukrainian children and pick which one
(06:28):
you'd like for your family. They just the apartments just
snatched up children that are just going to be given
to Russian families.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Well, and one of the main points of this piece
that I'm looking at right now, which is so interesting,
it follows this successful young Ukrainian American woman who had
a really good job with Morgan Stanley, but she went
back to her home country to become a combat medic.
But anyway, the point that several people make in this
piece is that look, this is not just about the land.
(07:00):
This is about all the people who live there, and
they're Ukrainians and they're either going to be oppressed or
shoved off the land, and it will be uh, there
will be Russian conquistadors, occupiers, colonists, whatever who come in
and take the land, and we don't want to see
that happen to our people, never mind our land.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
There are a couple of global situations right now. I
look at one side's demands and the other side's demands, and.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
There's no bridge in that gap.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Trump is not said, as far as I know yet,
yesterday and today does is the day? Is today still
the deadline on the sanctions or is he backing off that?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
No idea.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
God, I think he's going to have to say today
if he backs off, And I think.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Wow, I sorry. One more stray note, sort of kind of.
The Ukrainians have repelled the late summer Russian offensive and
actually recaptured several square miles of land, but I think
to describe it as more or less a stalemate is
still pretty accurate.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Uh, stalemate against a much much bigger country that doesn't
care how many millions of people die.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Apparently thousands Ukrainians are horrified by what Miss Zaiva Zarevna,
who's quoting this article, describes as a large scale state
policy of militarizing Ukrainian children forcibly transferred children are the
most vulnerable, but use and occupied territories are also pushed
into military training, including the operation of drones and tactical
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medical instruction. Russia is preparing them to fight against Ukraine
as soon as they turn eighteen.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
And it's not like you'll have a choice even if,
even if the brainwashing didn't work, you're going to be
sent to the front lines with a gun at your back.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You want us to shoot you or do you want
to move forward and get shot? Right? Yeah? God, that's brutal,
absolutely brutal.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
What's your guest? Does Trump back back off on the
sanction today?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
My guess which, oh, well, on that specifically, I don't know,
coin flip, But on the bigger, more troubling question to me,
to me, I have a bad feeling that he is
going to demand and then be rate Zelenski and the
Ukrainian people into giving up way more than they're comfortable
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with to achieve the end of the killing, which seems
to be Trump's main goal, and he will say we
will not arm you anymore, you need to take this agreement.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
And then that would just be the temporary end of
the killing, because then Putin starts it back up again
as soon as you can. Yeah, and why wouldn't he
since it worked?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Oh yeah, And that's just his nature and his goals,
his stated goals. Wow, to take as much territory as possible, Hanson.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
If Trump makes a statement on the sanctions, whether he's
sticking with him or not, let us know, that's a
big story. We got other stuff to get to stay here.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
So okay, So we piloted the back of your of
your car.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
It's a backseat. You got a driver.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
We drove, took a quick left, got out to another bar.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's the same building we drove. We drove from. We
drove from one door to another door. Yeah, nice ride.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
Yes's yead So I think he wanted to impress it.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You had a driver. That's funny.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
So Gutfeld's on Jimmy Fallon last night telling stories about
the time we met. Fallon has no memory of it.
So I was late at night. Fellon enjoys his booze,
as we all.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Know, uncomfortable shades of when I jumped into a cab
in Chicago and had the guy take me next door.
I did the same thing. I've told this story a
different street. It was Kitty Corner. I didn't recognize it.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
No, I did this in Key West. It was long
before Ubers. I called a taxi from the hotel to
take me to the airport in Key West and he said,
you need to go to the airport.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I said, yeah, he drives like ten feet. We're here.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Hotel's next to the airport. Wow, the airport is very small.
I gotta ask you this question. Oh yeah, I saw
that Nancy Mace is running for governor in South Carolina.
That that's not important to me, but I saw that
one of the things she's running on is outlawing chemtrails
in the state, and that several states already have like
(11:26):
com trails.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Like the the the like.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, the airplane just went by the The conspiracy people
call him chemtrails. Okay, fine, what what is what is
outlawing chemtrails? I can't Are you going to close the
airspace or what?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I don't I don't know. If you see one, do.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
You call the police and try to figure out which
plane plane did that?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
She is at least half a nut. Nancy Mace.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I know people that like spend a lot of time
really worried about kem trails and what it's doing to them.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
But okay, didn't know that was the thing.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, I admire that about you. You you rubbed elbows
with some frazy people. Some Yeah, well okay there you
not to put too fine a point on it.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But do you know who David Mammett is.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
He's a screenwriter, a film director, just a writer in general.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
So Glen Glenross to say, I just read Glengarry Glenn
Ross last year, the actual screenplay from him. One of
my all time favorite movies top five. He's got a
Tony nomination. The rest of his stuff not that prominent.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Oh the Postman Always Rings twice in nineteen eighty one
The Untouchables.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
There we go, Hafa Wag the dog Hannibal. I didn't
know his Untouchables. Also, he wrote a.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Really funny piece about the fact that American billionaires apparently
have prepared compounds in New Zealand in case of the apocalypse.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
What's their version of the apocalypse? When yet hitting the
fan man, societal break down?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It all going down?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Oh, comes on, Glenn dude, and it's funny, he starts.
He writes a piece here, and he talks about he
used to fly airplanes out of the Santa Monica Airport,
which is close to his home, and he was talking
to a fellow pilot that one of the benefits of
having a pilot's license and the ability to fly a
plane was that if society breaks down, I can fly
my family out. And he said, yeah, true. But your
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problem is going to be the last one hundred yards
before the airport. So Mammott points out, So, I guess
American billionaires have prepared compounds in New Zealand in case
of the apocalypse. I'm totally unaware of this, but I
love his thinking.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
So and those.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Compounds, of course have everything the group's gonna need, air, water, food,
entertainment ready to receive them to live in comfortment.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
That's funny. I'm preparing for the apocalypse. There better be
some entertainment when I get there. I want a nice
stack of DVDs ready to play.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Well and good. He writes. But their fantasy, like mine,
is flawed. For what is the size.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Of the group for which they foresee transportation protection and
perpetual care? And then then he uses the historical example
of the Ottoman Turks, who raised enslaved mamelukes to the
status of first of guards, then of administrators. And that
was fine until the mamelukes did the math and realized
we don't need the Turks. And so here's where the part.
(14:22):
I like because this is great logic, and I don't
think I would have thought of this. Some of the
pilots of the billionaire's getaway planes would surely have families, right,
Happily married pilots would logically insist their families come along
for the ride rather than stay and die. The billionaire's
wealth would avail them nothing, for they couldn't escape without
the pilots or pay a man enough to forfeit his
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family's life. Probably, yes, the wealthy would have armed guards
to ensure their own family got safely on board.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Wouldn't the guards insist that they and the loved ones
go along to Of course they would.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
This is pretty good, and the ground crews servicing the
plane would, by this logic act similarly if staying behind
meant death, what would they risk by demanding their inclusion.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
What's the rich guy gonna do stop their paycheck?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Right?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
This plane offers the soul escape. So I'm out there
airing up the tires. Yep, I'll have these tires right up,
and you can disappear off your island and live an
enjoyable life while I get slaughtered by the hordes.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
There have all the gunfires getting closer. Have a pleasant fly.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Now, Mammot points out there is a limitation. The plane
can only carry so much weight. If you overloaded, won't
get off the ground. At some point those on the
plane would have to use arms to keep the late
comer hordes off. The guards then would realize themselves to
be the enlightened Mamma lukes. If they're the only ones
capable of keeping order, and if money is now useless,
(15:46):
they have no need of their employer.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Correct on the plane, he would be dead weight and
in the New Zealand bunker just a useless mouth to feed.
So the caretakers, builders, security guards and so on of
the compound would insist on being a dominated if they
hadn't already barricaded themselves in and locked the plutocrats out,
or you shoot them halfway across the ocean and push
(16:08):
them out of the plane, or whatever that's up.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You know what, that would be one way to you know,
break up the flight. Hey, kids, I know you're restless,
but hey, in a couple of minutes, I got a
big surprise for you.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
That is the problem with those kind of deals.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I just read To Have and Have Not again, the
Ernest Hemingway book, and that's one of the plot points
in there. If anybody's ever read it, you know, he's
doing some smuggling operation and the super rich guy who
hires him. They head out on the boat. So as
they got on the boat, the lead character realizes I
don't need you anymore. I got the money you're into.
All you're doing is making my life worse, shoots them
and that's the end of.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
That, right right. Yeah, so uh huh, that's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Well, I would like to know what these billionaires, what
sort of calamity are you expecting? I mean, are some
of you global warming weirdos or immigrant hordes or what
are you?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Just to break down a society civil war, I guess
I'm just going to keep firing until I'm out of ammon,
you know, swing the fists.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I guess how far strong and getty.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
The fact that the Israeli security cabinet took about ten
hours to debate this issue, debate this measure, and finally agree.
It is I think a sign of how much division
there is in the Israeli government about how to proceed
with Gaza. And that's a division that's reflected countrywide. Opinion
polls have consistently indicated that about seventy percent of Israelis
(17:39):
want an end to the war in Gaza as soon
as possible, and a sense of normality to return to
their country, and of course the hostages to be brought back.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
God, that is such a biased view of that whole thing.
And by the way, last year's clip of the year,
it was the number one clip we had of the year,
was release the Sausages. How we never had that whenever
we're talking about hostages. Come on, Michael is In, the
employee of Big Bacon, evidently won't play the sausage clip.
And I realized it's a serious topic. But that is
(18:10):
also one of the greatest clips of all time. But
that's such a so the fact that there's internal descent, Okay, fine,
there always is. We've been talking about the dropping of
the bomb. There was all kinds of descent about that.
But the prevailing view was we got to drop the
bomb on Japan. So what I mean, how often is
(18:36):
it a one hundred percent of people are with this
the war cabinet that is a combination of different parts
of different factions of the government. That net Ya, who
is the head of voted to occupy Gazen, get rid
of Homas, and we talked about that a little bit earlier.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
That seventy percent poll we mentioned one an end of
the war.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah, I'm surprised it's not one hundred percent one and
end the war. But when you ask more specific questions
about what you gotta do, it's not as clear cut.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
And yeah, the whole question. They want the word to
end as soon as possible. Okay, Look, among humans, there
are always parameters to that sort of thing. We want
the war to end as soon as possible.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Given these co you know the truths.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
If that means like Israel ceases to exist, no, then no,
I don't want the war to end as soon as possible.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Obviously, that's that's a that's an answer in search of
a question by that polster.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Here's CNN. That was That was CNN's view. This is
ABC's view.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
I guess expanding the war to occupy all of Gaza
and any short term hopes of a ceasefire, and it
means hundreds of thousands of people being forcibly relocated in
the midst of what most concede is a humanitarian crisis.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Mertury leaders fear it could.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Take months and risks Israeli forces becoming bogbed with no
clear exits strategy. They've been widespread demonstrations here in Israel
against the plans, and the families of the hostage is
still being held in Gaza kind of being moved saying
it'll endanger the lives of their loved one.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, without any mention of the fact.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
But the majority of the people want Hamas to be dead.
And so what there have been widespreads I mean, what
is the point of that in the international outrage in
the international community always hates Israel no matter what they're doing.
And then what was the other part, Oh, this is
going to make it impossible to have a ceasefire.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
There was never going to be a ceasefire.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
No, that was ridiculous. I almost jumped it in the
middle of the clip. Yeah, so that sort of stuff
is driving me nuts.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
I call again from immediate ceasefire in Gaza.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
The return of the sausage the hospital still makes me laugh.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
That is just unbelievable. Oh, one of the greatest gaffs
of all time.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I wonder if he wakes up thinking about that nearly
every night. But then I wanted to get This is
a piece Jodah Goldberg wrote the other day. I thought
it was really good, and you know, we're just talking
about the bias and the news coverage of this, and
I was glad Jonah wrote this, and on which I
wish it was described this way more places. His piece
(21:15):
was called the death Cult Prison Gang, that is Hamas.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
He starts with.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
The claim that Gaza was in the world's largest open
air prison that we heard so much about right after
October seventh. In the wake up October seventh, when defenders
of Hamas desperately needed to provide some context to justify
the rape and slaughter that Hamas had perpetrated upon Israel,
the whole open air prison thing went viral, popping out
(21:44):
of the mouths of journalists and government officials all around
the world. In fact, there's some media analysis out there
that Jonah Goldberg links to.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
If you want to watch it I did.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Has a useful compilation of videos and what Gaza looked
like prior to this war, which was launched by Hama.
It's not Israel. In case you're confused about that, if
you watch, say Al Jazeera's twenty seventeen report on Gaza's
economic boom, complete with shopping malls, crowded beaches, and a
water park, it certainly doesn't look like the prisoner concentration
(22:14):
camp described by all those statesmen, intellectuals, journalists are un pouhbas.
Right after October seventh, you never hear about that well,
And the documents have been found, and I believe firmly
that they're authentic, in which ya Ya Sinwar stated, we
launched the October seventh attacks because we had Torayl to
(22:37):
derail the Israeli Saudi agreement. That would have been the
end of our dream of wiping the Jews off the map.
We had to derail.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It back to Jonah's peace.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
The numbers never really backed up the whole world's largest
open prison claim either. Every day prior to October seventh,
Palestinians left Gaza for work in Israel. Moreover, roughly a
quarter of a million and young Palestinians migrated left to
work or study abroad in the decade and a half
prior got to leave and come and go and go
study in some other land. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahoo
(23:14):
allowed billions in Katari and other aid money to get
funneled to Hamas. Net Yahoo justified it on the grounds
it was necessary to fend off a humanitarian crisis. Of course,
nobody remembers that now that they gave him all that money.
He made the as Jonah Goldsberg points out, the incorrect
bet that allowing all this aid and for Hamas to
(23:34):
build up Gaza, that they would become a you know,
not hell bent on destroying Jews. He was wrong about that,
and he could be criticized for that, But how are
you at the same time criticizing him now for wanting
to starve everybody.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And that is also the source of the bizarre narrative
that net and Yahu quote unquote finance Tamas. He actually
gave them money. He wanted them to exist for his
political purposes, they say in the conspiracy soaked corners of
the Internet.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Okay, so that's this, the whole, the whole.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
It was an open air prison in a hell hole
before Hamas went into the most recent time in Israel
and caused all this to happen. Onto this though what
I really liked. Gaza may not be a prison, but
Hamas is a prison gang. Hamas is almost and is
also an Islamist genocidal death cult. In practical terms. Most
(24:25):
of the time, it runs Gaza like a prison gang.
This shouldn't surprise anyone. Prisons and terror groups have had
a chicken and egg relationship for generations. The Muslim Brotherhood,
Islamic jihad Isis, the Irish Republican Army, Bolsheviks, various American
neo Nazi groups, various far left euro parent tear out
terror outfits.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
The list goes on.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
What's special about Hamas is that it operates like a
prison gang when not in prison. All those examples of
people were in prison or they were getting all this money.
They could have used this money to build up a
fantastic society, right, and they decided to run the little
strip of land that is known as Gaza as a
like a prison gang.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And Israel foolishly incorrectly thought, okay, now they're just governing
few finally, But no, they were building up to something
like October seventh.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
He quotes this book that's all about prison gangs to
explain what he means by Hamas is like a prison gang.
Prison gangs regulate violence, enforce order, control resources, and manage
access to black markets. That's what Hamas has been doing
in Gaza for years. Armed violence that falls on AID
convoys isn't all orchestrated by Hamas, but it's a safe
(25:36):
bet that most of it wouldn't happen without Hamas allowing
it or directing it.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Obviously, you couldn't be.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Some half assed gang stealing the food and Hamas would say,
damn it, they got it again.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
They would wipe you outys. Watch few episodes of the Sopranos. Yeah,
good point.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Anyway, it goes on and on about what an awful,
awful Hamas is, how much better Gaza was prior to
the war in a way that seems to have been forgotten.
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Speaker 4 (27:15):
By the way, what the war cabinet there in Israel
voted for yesterday? It approved five principles for ending the
war that include the disarming of Hamas and I'll see
how you gonna do that without killing them all, the
return of all fifty hostages, twenty of whom are believed
to be alive. The demilitarization of Gaza, Israeli security control
(27:38):
over the enclave, and the establishment of an alternative civilian
administration there that doesn't involve Hamas with the Palestinian authority Netnyah,
who is making it clear that they have no interest
in running Gaza. But if you do all the things,
the five things that were approved by the Work Cabinet,
(27:59):
you're gonna be run until you.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Can find somebody to take it off your hands. And
I don't know how that's going to work. Yeah, Yeah,
this will be something to watch. It's going to be ugly.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
The reporting on it is going to be completely misleading.
It's going to be ugly to start with. Then add
on to it the reporting in the fact that every
country in the world hates Israel.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, there are I think you can divide humanity into
a couple of groups of people, and I have no
idea what percentage are which, But you've got one group
of people who win, faced with a couple of really bad.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Options.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Picks one takes a heavy sigh and does it, And
there are a hundred examples from real life or geopolitics
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
It's almost it's like the whole if your kid didn't
do their homework, do you hurriedly do it for them
or do you let them suffer the consequence for it.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
It's a similar thing.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
So you got a certain number of people who understand
this is terrible and I don't want to do this,
but I've got to.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And then you do it.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
And then there are the sort of people and I
run into them all the time, or I see them
on TV or whatever, who, when faced with such a
terrible decision, say, there's got to be another way. And
you can spend days, weeks, and months exhausting every other
possible way, and they will never accept the fact that
you have to do something really difficult. They will just
(29:27):
keep saying, no, that's too ugly, we won't do that.
There's got to be another way. And then when somebody
a realist, has to choose and has to act, they
will sit back. They will condemn that person for their choice,
whichever choice they made, and claim the in their own minds,
moral high ground. And I don't know if the realists
(29:49):
are outnumbered, you know, four to one or five to
one or ten to one, but I think we are outnumbered.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, it's the classic passive a situation you get get
you have such a great lofty bought to be a
pacifist and not have to deal with the reality of
how you solve a problem.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
They keep running a certain video on a loop on Fox.
I want to talk about it at some point whether
this is good for society or bad for society, and
I'm not exactly sure.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I keep going back and forth, among other things. Stay here, armstrong,
Hey yetty. Welcome to the team recruits.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
I'm Christy Nolan.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I'm head of Homeland Security.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
A few years ago, I had to put my puppy
down by shooting it in the pigs, because sometimes doing
what's important means doing what's hard.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Whoa, whoa.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Now we'll ask the same determination of you.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Okay, so boy, that's out dark. I don't know if
you could tell what was going on there, but that
was South Park portraying our current Secretary of d h US.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
As a dog shooter, which she is, but I justified.
We've talked about that. But well, they have her shooting
dogs for fun.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Wherever she sees them, including in restaurants. It's rather dark
and over the top, South Park. I expect you to
be more restrained and tasteful. Well.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
She has responded to some of the portrayal. Today, DH
Secretary Christy Nome blasts South Park after show brutally mocks
her appearance.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Is the angle on this?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I didn't I haven't watched the episode, so apparently they
mocked her appearance. Also, Christy Noam has blasted the creators
as lazy and petty after the show cruelly mocked her appearance,
depicting her as a vain, botoxed bimbo. I just saw
her on TV just moments ago. I don't know how
you can mock that woman's appearance. I mean, whatever you
think of her politics or views or this or that,
(31:53):
you cannot say she's not an attractive person because she's
well and super crazy dolled up too.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
She's gonna don some victorious secret stuff and walk the runway.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I guess it's a matter of opinion, but she doesn't
look freakish to me. To me, I have mocked it too.
It's weird that you're so glam as a government official.
But she doesn't look weird like Bezos's wife or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
To me, maybe you have different tastes.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
A little lip filler.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I don't know, but little knows. It never ends.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
But it's so lazy to constantly make fun of women
for how they look. No said, it's always the liberals
and the extremists who do that. If they wanted to
criticize my job, go ahead and do that, but clearly
they can't.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
They just pick something petty like that.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
It helps to blast back at somebody criticizing your parents
when you're a very attractive person.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Of course, it's easier, so.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
She doesn't mention the whole I don't actually shoot dogs
in restaurants for fun.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
That's good, right, done them down on the streets, right,
Is that what they have sometimes with automatic weapons?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yes, it's very bloody. It's terrible. I guess, I know.
I you know.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
I've known for years that some of you cannot enjoy
jokes if they're against your side in any way. I
mostly can not always sometimes it really really pisses me off.
But like, I don't know, I find that hilarious and
inaccurate and wrong and all kinds stuff. But I still
find it hilarious, right as just satire.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Often humor is about easing your way to a difficult truth.
Sometimes it's just to make you laugh, right, And that's
you know, that's the question. Oh hey, I don't know
if I have time for this, but I wanted to
tip my cap to the Oregonian in their website Oregon Live.
And they are liberals as you might expect, being you know,
(33:48):
they're journalists in Oregon. But they had a great editorial
the other day about the the and we talked about
this episode.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Oregon Rep.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Dwayne Yunker was reading loud from sexually explicit books porn
that was put into the school libraries by progressives teachers
and librarians, and his point was being, look, this is
not appropriate.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Let me read it for you.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
And people are going crazy there on the floor of
the house, saying, you can't read that here, it's inappropriate,
the irony being as big as a skyscraper, but still
not big enough for them to get apparently. And then
the state of Oregon, which is so up its own
hind end and crazy, launched an investigation by the Legislative
(34:35):
Equity Office that's concluded that Younker's action could have created
a hostile workplace and affected employee's abilities to do their job. Therefore,
because it was sexually explicit, he was forbidden for discussing
it on the floor.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Of the legislature. Something that's in schools.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
If you don't get the I mean, it's so obvious, now,
can I have that?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Put it out to you?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Totalitarian jiu jitsu that they're pulling there. You're far too
stupid to listen to the show, and I suggest you stop.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, anyway, no kidding Oregonians.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
It's like straight out of Catch twenty two, the Book
of Craziness.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, we're gonna introduce porn into the library, but you
can't bring it out because that would be obscene.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
So anyway, there you go.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
But no, The Oregonian, in an editorial headline politics is
not a safe space, says, it's absolutely ridiculous and unacceptable
that you can't discuss this very political issue in the
halls of politics. And the state ought to wake up,
and the legislature recognized the constitutional protections guaranteeing freedom of
(35:43):
speech and expression must be taken into account and determining
the rights afforded individuals in the state capital under whatever rule.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
So anyway, good for you Oregonian.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
We do twenty hours of live radio every week, and
I don't know how much of you you get, but
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