September 1, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Monday, September 1, 2025 A&G Replay contains:
- Rand Paul's RFK Vax Speech
- Next Door Trans Cries Out
- Jason Owens w/Jack on Border Challenges
- Caution about Brazilian Butt Lift
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Catty arm.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Strong, and Getty and he I'm strong and Getty strong.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
And I vaccinated all my kids. I believe vaccines are
one of the modern miracles. Beyond all Pale.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
The Speckled Monster is a great book about the introduction
of the smallpox vaccine in seventeen twenty into our country.
All miracles, but I'm not a one size fits all.
It's not all or nothing. I chose to wait on
my Hepatitis B vaccine and we did it when they
went to schools. That made me an awful person? Does
that make me an anti vaxxer? Because I questioned the
government dictator of whether I do it?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And I'm not speaking for anybody else.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I'm only speaking for myself, but for let's have an
honest debate about these things.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Senator Ran Paula Kentucky, who's an ophthalmologist, he's actual medical professional,
weighing in at the RFK Junior hearing yesterday, and you heard.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
The main point of his screed there at the end,
and you'll hear it more. The idea that can we
stop insisting we must all be of lockstep on some
of these difficult questions. We have to have an atmosphere
of honest debate. And he's absolutely right. Anything else to
add or shall we plunge on, Let's hit it.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Biden's FAA exceeded its goal and follow year.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Hello, Michael, the COVID vaccine. Pay attention.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
If you ask me my opinion.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
The reporters are uping down the hall and they say
you still anti vaccine. No, I'm pro vaccine, but on
the COVID vaccine and on the COVID illness there was
a thousandfold or more difference between the elderly and children.
If you don't acknowledge that your commit malpractice.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
You're showing your ignorance.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
If you say a six month old must be mandated
to get it.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
The science is not there.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
So all this blather about the science says this, and
the science says that, no, it doesn't. The science actually
shows it. No healthy child in America died from COVID.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Look it up. No healthy child died from COVID.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
An amazing stat given the fact that we had yellow
caution tape around playground structures and little kids wearing masks.
Good lord, we haven't even talked about that part of it.
So this was a school being closed and the parts
being closed on, all this sort of stuff. Poor little
kids running around with masks on, can't see you know,
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the other kids' faces or whatever for no reason.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Right, even when that became clear because of Trump derangement syndrome,
absolutely unforgivable.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Rand Paul rolls on.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
So if you ask me my advice as a physician,
if you were sixty five or older, or overweight and
some other conditions, I would.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Have said, hell, yes, I'd take the COVID vaccine.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
The risks of the disease were real and much greater
than the vaccine. But if you ask me, should my
healthy six month old get it? See, these are the
nuances you're unwilling to talk about because there's such a
belief in submission. Submit to the government to what you're told.
There is no discussion. There ought to be a debate.
You're not going to let him have the debate because
you're just going to criticize and say it is this
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and admit to it, or we're not going to appoint you.
But it's more complicated than that, and this is why
people distrust government because you're unwilling to have these conversations.
And I go home, ask your Democrat young mothers, your
Republican young mothers, if they're vaccinating their kid for appetitis
being They're like, well, do I have to do it
on day one? Is this precious little baby? Is there
science to say you shouldn't do it?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Probably not, But it's my kid.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
It's like, there isn't clear cut science saying not to.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I need to start saying nuances instead of a nuance.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Please don't, please don't do that. He pointed out earlier
in his screen. I guess it was edited out that
hepatitis B is generally spread through drug use of needle drugs,
and sexual You're making.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
An assumption that my six month old is not a
smack addict having unprotected sex with randos. The idea that
a one day old kid needs that vaccine, then it's
you know, if I'm wrong about this, I will manfully
announce it and apologize. But I suspect very very strongly
that the idea is we will get much higher compliance
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if we have the HEV vaccine. Part of the battery
of things that you give the kid in the hospital
while the kid is there. And you know, if we
let people wait until it's actually necessary, we'll get lower
compliance and more people will get sick and hurt and
die and the rest of it. Again, maybe it's sort
of kind of well meaning, but I think we're all
sick of that sort of paternalism and dishonesty to get
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us to comply rolling along.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
But on autism, there's no good science of anything to
show what causes autism.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
We don't know. It's a profound disease.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I know many moms here and dads who have kids
that aufics. I know them personally, I've met their kids.
But the thing is is they saw their kids developing
completely normal, maybe speaking one hundred words go to no
words at about fifteen months of age.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Now, there isn't proof. There isn't proof that the vaccines
caused it. That's true. There isn't proof that it calls it.
But we don't know what causes it yet.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
So shouldn't we be at least open minded We take
seventy two vaccines.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Could it be?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I don't know, But we shouldn't just close the door
and say we're no longer because we believe so much
in submission, we're not going to have an open mind
to study these things, and so it's sort of this
crazy notion.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
I have found no compelling evidence that indeed autism is
caused by inoculations vaccines, on the other hand, is ran
Paul makes clear again that's yet another example of if
we even have an honest debate and look at this
and have some more studies and all in an open way,
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we will have lower compliance rates. It's all about compliance,
and again with a few exceptions. Maybe I think complying
with a lot of the vaccine policies is a really,
really good idea. But the days of being able to
just shout to the sheeople what they have to do
and they'll all line up and do it, even though
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you're presenting it dishonestly, I just there's so much information
out there they can't get away with it anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Are there seventy two that your kid has to get
to go to school?
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Now, I've seen that repeatedly. I don't know that that's true.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
If it's half that many, that's a lot total doses. Perhaps, yeah,
and I'm including boosters. You know, I'm so cynical about government.
It's just particularly pre COVID, we paid so little attention
to this. Why would I believe that somebody somewhere doesn't think, hey,
you know what, you get this on the mandated list,
that's worth five billion dollars. How do we get that
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through whatever committee to get you know, and one more
when there's already one or thirty six or whatever shots
adding one more that nobody's paying any attention to. You
just take your kid to the doctor and they hey,
you need this group of injections to go to first grade,
and everybody just says, okay. There's so much money involved,
I find it hard to believe that there's zero malfeasan's
(07:17):
going on. Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Very very little profit in vaccines, but times a billion, yeah,
maybe it becomes significant.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
The you know, the.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Aspect of it that that I think is likely. Well,
I don't have any proof this is happening, but the
government and its mandates, particularly in the wake of COVID,
I think deserve whatever is the opposite of the benefit
of the doubt. If somebody came to me and showed
me the secret memo that said, look, if we get
ninety eight percent compliance with this vaccine. We will prevent
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ten thousand deaths a year. It's going to result in
about a thousand kids getting being autistic, but as a
net gain, it's it's a good So we're just gonna
be quiet about the autism stuff. And I don't actually
believe that's happening. But if you do because of what
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you've observed from the government, I can't call you crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Right, there's no possible way they know what the long
term effect of the combination of some of these vaccines
are because they haven't been around long enough. Right.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
More of the Randyman schizophrenia.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I would put in the same notion.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
You have a kid who's completely normal to eighteen or
nineteen and their brain goes heywire.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
How does that happen? It's the most bizarre disease.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Shouldn't we be.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Open Could it be our food? It might be vaccines,
it might be our food. But autism is more common.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I don't know about the schizophrenia statistics, but autisms more common.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Should we want to be open minded? Instead?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
We're so close minded and we're so consensus driven that
the science says this, Well, science doesn't say anything. Science
is a dispute and ten years from now.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
We could all be wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Roll on, Curly, roll on.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Twenty years ago, they did this enormous study and they
said everybody over fifty should take an aspirin.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I thought, well, it's a pretty good idea, it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
But you know what, twenty years later they measured it
and they found if you had no heart disease and
you were taking aspen, your chance of dying from a
brain bleed or from a stomach bleed were greater than
the risk of heart disease. You have heart disease, they
still say take an aspirin if you don't have changed
your mind twenty years later. But would you have all
said I was crazy and I should no longer be
in public discourse if I had said twenty years ago,
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I don't feel like taking an aspir I ride my
bike all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I'm afraid it might hit my head.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
But that's what countries about, is what decent is about.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
That's a good example. Yeah, yeah, it is one final clip.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
So just to ask you to look at the larger
picture and give the guy break who says I just
want to follow the science where it leads without presupposition.
I think, really, what we have up here is presupposition.
You've already concluded it's absolute that autism isn't caused by it.
We don't know what causes autism, so we should be
more humble in what we say.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Sorry, I didn't get to a question.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
That doesn't make me say therefore, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
But you can't deny that we are openly having some
of these conversations thanks to our FK.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Junior and his advocacy.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
He's got some really troubling conflicts of interest, and he's
half a con man if you ask me.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
But still Da Da knows how to turn lemons into lemonade.
You find a dead bear, what do you do? You
just leave it there? You bury it? No, you come
up with a hilarious prank.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Not to mention the underrated, Bring in a whales head
home chain, sawing it off the whale and then strapping
it to the roof of your car as its juice
is dripped down the window.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Barbaric.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Okay, we got on a topic earlier we need to
fix when we come back. As we finished strong with
the UH is flatulent speech. I vote no. I don't
think it has First Amendment protections.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
It is unmistakably speech in this instance, and I believe
that Thomas Jefferson would agree with me, certainly Ben Franklin,
who was a big fan of Flatulen.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong and Getty Show, arm Strong
and Getty Show, Katie.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I want you your assessment of this. Also, this is
a next door post. I don't read next door very often,
but I don't know. If you're on next door, you
get him in your email and like, if the first
eight words grab your attention, I will vote in the
next door thing and read double. I mean, if it's
just I lost my kitten, I don't read it, but
this one got my attention. I'm general, I'm genuinely sorry.
(11:59):
If anyone here's crying and strained yelling from my apartment,
well that was enough for me to click on it.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Oh wit a minute, crying and strained yelling.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
No one is in danger or anything. I'm just in
an unbelievable amount of physical and emotional pain from a
combination of expected factors. I need to get through this
on my own terms. Okay, now hang with this. You're
probably like me because my initial feeling was this is
a crack pop then I thought, oh my gosh, this
is a tragic story. Somebody the physical pain thing. I
(12:28):
just let's keep going concerned. Okay, all right. The muscles
in my chest are atrophying from medication, spasming like a
like a painful hiccup, and my support at home is
currently singing in Napa. My supported home is singing in Napa.
But anyway, again, I'm starting to feel, man, this is horrible.
I'm just being real with y'all. Retranshealth. Okay, now we're
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taking a turn. Oh wait a minute. It's not supposed
to be this difficult. People are meant to have family
and community connections to help, but I don't. I implore
everyone take my situation as cautionary. There is more pain
caused by taking away access to healthcare or kicking out
your relatives than there is in being open to unfamiliar
but long standing ideas about the human brain and physiological development. Honestly,
(13:15):
and creed or what. Honestly, I invite you to do
some primal screams with me, or we're all going to
need the catharsis if the political situation stays on this
globally destructive trajectory. Thank you so I took that as
they're doing some sort of transition stuff and like didn't
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have the money for the follow through or all the medication,
or they're doing it on their own, or they're doing
something with their breast area retrans transitioning and it's really painful,
and everybody has called them a nut job and left.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
That's what it sounds like to me. Now for me,
and then Katie, I'll get out of your way. Now
for me, please rope in somehow that last sentence about
the globally destructive trajectory. Now that factors into his newly
or her what's newly removed Hooters or whatever, yeah, or
recently added one of each.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I don't know. All I got is there was a
lot there. That's a lot. There was a lot going
on with that.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
And again this person, I'm sorry they're going through it,
but they went. The thing that is going to help
me right now is to put this on next door.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Right.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Well, there's that as well. Man, I'm running some sort
of a mental health place. I'm calling out the swap
team for this one. Yeah, so we're gonna need like
half a dozen experts.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, as Joe pointed out there then throwing in at
the end that somehow, if Trump weren't president, I wouldn't
be screaming in my apartment. Everything would be fine. I
don't know what would be different.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
The human need for escapegoat, I think is underappreciated. Have
the great philosophers weighed in on this? The mom the
muscles in.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
My chest are atrophying from medication, spasming like a painful hiccup.
So you think it's somebody getting rid of breasts. I
don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
I can't I can't sound likely answer any questions about this.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, Kittie, that sounds to me like it's written by
a woman. I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I'm thinking I'm a trauma queene guy.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I've known a few.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Well, yeah, the first he's on the girl hormones as
a way of making you crazy. You know, if FA's
to anybody, the first sentence is, I'm genuinely sorry if
anyone hears crying and strained yelling from my apartment.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, that's better unstrained yelling, certainly. Wow, that's a terrible situation,
and that would imply that you're like screaming out loud,
loud enough for other people to hear you. You don't
have any relationship with your next door neighbors, so the
best way to reach out to them is through next
door and hope they read it. Oh that's a sad
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human even as a missing trope. If I lived anywhere
for very long in an apartment complex, I you know,
I had a certain relationship with the people right next
to me.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
But just that the person with that incredible I mean
practically incomprehensible stew of issues then bringing it home to
and by the way, that damn Trump.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Is the root of all this. Wait what Yeah, I
invite you. I mean, essentially, I invite you to do
some primal screams with me. We're all going to need
the Catharsis if the political situation stays on this globally
destructive trajectory. Yeah right, Well, I was gonna bring you
a lasagna, but I don't know. You seem like a
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lot long day. Yeah, you seem like a lot. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
They long for those calm and placid Biden Harris years.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
All right, that was one of the best next doors
I ever clicked on in terms of making Yes, Michael, I.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Have one as well. Okay, we need good handyman, need
to put up shed.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Please email me who drives that red car? It goes
tost eat good handymen need to put up shed. That's
a good one too, Michael. That's a lot of them.
Has nothing to do with adriffing muscles in your chest
because all your Because that was one of my favorite
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sentences was my support at home is currently singing in Napa.
Well support group went to a singing competition? Is that
bad for them? Give him a minute ago singing Napa.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
It's pretty Jack Armstrong and Joey The Armstrong and Getty Show,
The Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Show to talk to the former Border Patrol Grand Pooba
twenty sixth chief of the United States Border Patrol, now retired,
Jason Owens, joins The Armstrong and Getty Show this morning. Jason,
how are you today?
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Good Jack? I've never been called a grand two bottles.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Or thank you for that the big geez. So what
years were you the guy in charge? So I was?
Speaker 7 (18:11):
I was the chief of the Border Patrol from the
summer of twenty three until March of twenty five.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Okay, what do you know what the history is of
our border enforcement? I mean, did we used to have
much stricter border enforcement, and people just chose not to come,
or did the economics change to where people want to
come across and so we now we need more border agents.
(18:39):
I actually don't know that the whole dynamic has changed.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
It's not just about the traffic that we're seeing, but
it's about the public's awareness and attention to the issue.
That the border has always been an issue in some
form or fashion. It's just that we didn't pay as
much attention to it. You know, back in the nineties
when I started, you know, the Border Patrol was a
a small agency that not many people knew about. We
only had a few thousand agents and predominantly focused on
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immigration along the southwest border with Mexico. Nobody really gave
any thought to the economic migration. Most of the folks
came from Mexico. They'd come up and they'd try and
find work. They'd center emittances home and during the holidays
they'd go back home visit their family, and then they'd
try again as soon as the holidays were over. And
that's really the extent of you know, what was border
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security during that time.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
And throughout the.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
Ages, we've had those surges where we've had very busy times.
And I'm sure you know being out there in California.
You know, back in the nineties, San Diego was incredibly busy.
But it was a different demographic that was crossing then.
It was it was a very different mission because nine
to eleven hadn't happened yet, and our awareness of the
threats that are out there didn't exist.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
In what way was it a different demographic that was
crossing back then versus down Well, like I.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Said, predominantly had a lot of folks from Mexico and
they were mostly single adult and they were coming forth
to find jobs in the US and send money back
home and they would go home to their families. Well,
over time that started to shift because people started to
see that, well, the situation got a little bit rougher
in Mexico. You had people from Central and South America
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that were interested in coming up as well, and people
started to see that it was more difficult for US
to remove people from the country if they didn't come
from Mexico. Most of the time, if you caught Jason
Owens from Mexico and you said, hey, do you want
to go before an immigration judge and see if you're
going to be deported or if you can stay here
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most of the time, they would say, you know what,
I'm going to voluntarily return and skip all of that,
knowing that it is probably going to turn right around
and try and cross again, and eventually that they made
it because of the year. You know how big the
border is and how few agents we had. Well, you
can't do that with folks from other countries because Mexico
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was under no obligation to take those folks back if
they're not citizens of Mexico, and we don't have those
those processes and procedures in place with these other countries
in many cases, and in many cases it's a lot
more expensive than just walking them across the border to
the authorities in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah. Also, there is no place in the country you
were going to get free healthcare as someone here illegally
not that many years ago and now he can. So
there are different magnets rather than just jobs. We all
so didn't have anything like fentanyl or meth way back
in the day. How much different has that made the
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drugs that are available in our appetite for them here
in the United States.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Well, and talking about how the dynamic has changed along
the border. Make no mistake about it. The cartels control
everything that's coming across illicitly across our borders. And that's
whether that's people, whether that's you know, illicit substances, whether
that's money, you name it. And so you know, back
in the again in the early two thousands and nineties,
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and you know, it was all about marijuana, and you
had cocaine, and you had some meth cases and the
like and heroin. Those are the traditional narcotics that we
would come across. And of course, you know, the world's
view on marijuana has changed, and so the cartels adapted
and they look for the next best thing, because at
the end of the day, there's a business and they're
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looking at how can I make money off of you
know what it is I'm doing well, they took a
pivot to two things. Number One, fentnel started becoming much
more prominent because of how potent it is and how
easy it is to make comparatively. And then also they
got into the people business. They got into human trafficking
because for the longest time, there was not as much
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risk associated people would be a little bit more sympathetic
to folks that were smuggling people across the border than
they would somebody bringing across kilos of cocaine, and so
they shifted to the product it was going to be
in more demand and where they stood to make the
most money with less risk. That's officially been what the
cartel's business model has been and how it has impacted
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the dynamic along particularly the southwest border.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
That's interesting. So that doesn't surprise me. But you say
the cartel, nothing's really happening without their approval.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
Absolutely not. And there's different ones that are out there.
And if you talk to anybody in the national security space,
especially with CDP and Border patrol, they will tell you
that that is our true adversary. The smugglers, the criminals,
the cartel members, those are the ones that we face
off against every single day, and when we go out
there to help secure the border, that is who we
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have in mind. The immigration issue, it's an important one.
We have to have law and order, but the national
security aspect of border security is really what is first
and foremost on our minds because that represents by far
the greatest threat to our country.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
And the Mexican government just can't get control of those
cartels apparently it's.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
A tough situation. They You know, if you think about
an adversary like the cartels, that the amount of money
that they make. And I'll use Del Rio sector in
Texas as an example, because I was the I was
the sector chief there before I took over as chief
of the Border Patrol. And that's a that's a pretty remote,
small sector. And of course back a couple of years
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ago that was front and center with Eagle Pass and
you all the and the Haitian migration. Well, that little
sector just off of human trafficking alone, we estimated that
the cartels were pocketing upwards of thirty thirty five million
dollars a week. Wow, you do the you do the math,
and that's not narcotics. That's nothing but human smuggling in
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one sector of nine across the southwest border. You know,
for and again my Oklahoma math that that's over one
point five billion dollars a year in one sector that
they're making. So you're talking about an adversary that is
well funded, unlimited resources, and nothing but time to sit
there and think about how they're going to defeat whatever
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security measures we have in place. And part of that
is destabilizing the communities and the governments in Mexico so
that they can maintain a foothold and keep an advantage.
And that's been a persistent problem for our partners over
in Mexico for for years.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, it's a very gentle way of saying it. Destabilize
the communities, as in, if you're the cops in that town,
you're going to die if you try to take them on.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Absolutely, And I would have conversations with my counterparts these
they would be the Satana generals, or they would be
the colonels over sam Are, and they would tell you,
it's not that we don't want to respond or we
don't want to help out.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's just that the.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Life we're living down here is very different.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
You know.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
They literally deal with at times gun battles in the streets,
people that are being murdered, dismembered. There are legitimate threats
to their families, and they go out there and do
the job. So you have to you have to respect
and empathize with the situation that they're in. So I
don't always buy into, oh, it's just it's just a
matter of corruption. No, there's there's a lot of factors
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that get taken into account that I think any of
us in that situation would be faced with.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, culturally, that's why we've got to hang on to
our culture of not having very much corruption, because man,
once you lose that, it's tough to turn it around.
That's rough. So talking about it, talking about the border.
When we just say the border, we all assume the
border between US and Mexico, but you say, there's a
lot more going on between the United States and Canada,
now the longest unde defended border in the world.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
It was always funny to me every time I would
talk to a member of Congress or staffers or in
many cases, reporters, and it still didn't get covered as
much as I would have liked. People forget, Yes, there's
about two thousand miles between US and Mexico, but there's
four thousand miles a border between US and Canada that
if you don't count that vertical slash that Alaska shares,
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which is another fifteen hundred miles. And oh, by the way,
we have thousands of miles of coast and most people
don't think about it in these terms. We actually share
a border, a coastal border with Russia because of Alaska.
So we have some legitimate things to think about in
vulnerabilities that exist along our multiple borders and the threats
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both state and non state actors that are out there.
And I think that deserves a space in the discussion
anytime we're talking about national security and especially border security,
because if you're going to resource an agency that's responsible
for keeping us safe, you have to take into account
all that they are responsible for, and not just one
piece that the mainstream media wants to focus on.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
What percentage of border patrol is on the southern border
versus the northern border. Do you have any idea?
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Typically about ninety percent of our workforce is deployed on
the southwest border, and you can do the matt roughly
twenty thousand agents depending on the season that we're in.
You have ninety percent deployed down to the southwest border
and the rest are on the northern border, our coastal
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sectors and in many cases overseas and our offices.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, Man, if it ever becomes a real problem, or
maybe you're saying it already, is of things coming across
the Canadian border. I remember when I drove into Calgary
one time, I was headed up to Calgary, just crossing
on a two lane highway in the middle of nowhere,
there's basically nothing there. Showed them a driver's license and
drove in. That's all there was to it. How many
drugs are coming across the Canadian border at this point?
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Do you have any idea?
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Well, and that's that's the million dollar question, so to speak.
That we get asked a lot of times what's getting away.
There's what we catch, and that's between us and the
Office of Field Operations that works at the ports of entry.
Ours is the job between the ports of entry. So
there's what we actually catch, what we may see and
are able to get to. But then there's that great void,
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that great unknown, and that exists even along the Southwest
border that a lot of people don't realize as well.
There's so much of the border that we don't have
persistent surveillance. We don't know what's coming across or what's
going on because we're not out there and we don't
have the technology. In today's age, it's hard to imagine
that there's actually still areas out there where there's no
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cell coverage, there's no reception, and you need that for
the technology to be effected. So there's a lot of
spaces out there where we don't have that situational awareness,
and so we can't tell you with any level of
certainty what's coming across, what's getting away. And that's one
of the things I always said. It keeps us up
at night. It worries is because we know the potential
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and you don't want to have something like that happen
on your watch.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, man, that is true. Jason Owen's twenty six chief
of the United States Border Patrol. Appreciate your time today
as very interesting stuff.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
Good talk to you, Jake, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You bet you, Jack, Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and
Getty Show, The arm Strong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Over the weekend, the rapper known as four Extra lost
two fingers in a fireworks accident. He's now changed his
name to three Left. The good news is he's no
longer throwing up gang signs.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
You know, I saw that first punch line coming, but
I enjoyed it a lot. Three Left and get it
and be carefuble of fireworks kids gender Manning Madden. This
uptake coming up next segment, But first, a handful of
consumer oriented stories that I found intriguing in or amusing
Wall Street Journal reporting. Vanity sizing is forcing petit women
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into kids' clothes, changing styles, and the supersizing of apparel
is pushing shoppers to unusual.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Lengths to find something that fits.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
The subheadline is so much glitter, Yeah, you better like sparkles. Yeah,
the petit women who have you know, been forced to
go for children's sizes because the American girth has been increasing.
More on that in a moment, but everybody knows this right.
The apparel industry for years has been employing vanity sizing,
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making clothes larger and larger while keeping the sizes the same,
making matters worse for some slender shoppers. Is a current
fashioned woman in which oversized looks are in vogue. The
result clothes so big that slender people are swimming in them.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, I know it. So with young people, they're all
wearing super giant, baggy clothes.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
This gallows five to fives. Try petite clothing, but because
those fits are designed for shorter people, the shirt sleeve
stop ab of her wrists and the genes don't even
graze her ankles. Children's clothes fit better, but the styles
aren't sophisticated, too many flowers and so much glitter. Final
note on this, The average American woman weighs about one
hundred and seventy pounds, which is thirty pounds more than
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she did in nineteen sixty. According to the National Center
for Health Statistics, average is one seventy.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
That is correct? Is that average or median?
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Because if there's like one fifty thousand pound woman, that's
why it's like the Bill Gates walks into a bar,
thing right, your net worth? Your average networth, et cetera,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Bill Gates could walk into a bar and change the
average in net worth. A fifty thousand pound woman is
not going to roll into the bar or probably the buffet.
No oh my, that was insensitive. She expectedly thousand pounds.
She needs some tough talk. Look at yourself when you
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hit thirty thousand, didn't you think you know?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
We gotta change something.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
This is terrible.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
There's something terribly wrong here. Because the average height for
a woman is five to three. So if we're averaging
at one seventy, that seems pretty portly.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think that that sounds high to me.
That sounds really you arguing.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
With the name National Center for Health Statistics.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I guess I am, But that just that sounds high
to me. There's a lot more to get to, okay.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
The Brazilian butt lift surgery is a procedure that enhances
the size and shape of someone's rear end through a
fat transfer.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I know what, I've had two of them.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
It's often considered a dangerous procedure by experts since there's
a possibility of death, infection, and more. I would restructure
that sentence once you have death. Infection is kind of irrelevant, right,
but more the more. But this popular and freaking stupid surgery.
Do you seriously think having a bigger butt is going
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to materially change your life?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
It's better it's for bigger or higher you lift. It's
it's both. I'd like mine higher. It makes it not
only higher.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Not only is BBL surgery risky, there's one bizarre, rather
gross side effect that comes along that the potential patients
should consider. It's called the BBL smell, and it is real.
This doctor, what uh? There's often a smell expected for
BBL patients after sweating or sitting for long periods, an
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aggressive scent.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Because I'm guessing because you have crevasses.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
No, no, uh, there are uh tissue death, which is
a BBL complication and unhygienic habits that could cause someone
with BBBL to have a smelly b hunh.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
This is the worst thing you ever done, by a lot. Yeah,
we're done, horrible.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I am issuing an important warning to people who might
fall prey to this insidious procedure. If a patient was
quote overfilled with fat during the procedure, fat necrosis, which
is when fatty tissue in the butt dies, can occur
as a result of RADSID smell develops.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Well, yeah, I imagine you smell like a dead body.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Yes, infections that need antibiotics, hospitalizations, and even that leads
to sepsis.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Okay, well, this has been a treat, Thanks Joe. What
is that coloni you're wearing? Black plague?
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Is that dead raccoon?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
No, that's my BBL surgery gone wrang.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
I'm telling you, ladies, Oh beautiful the way you are
all right, God.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
You gotta wear the kids clothes and you smell like
a dead body and things are going well for it.
It's the arm Strong in Getty Show. It's because she's
face
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Catty arm.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Strong, and Getty and he I'm strong and Getty strong.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
And I vaccinated all my kids. I believe vaccines are
one of the modern miracles. Beyond all Pale.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
The Speckled Monster is a great book about the introduction
of the smallpox vaccine in seventeen twenty into our country.
All miracles, but I'm not a one size fits all.
It's not all or nothing. I chose to wait on
my Hepatitis B vaccine and we did it when they
went to schools. That made me an awful person? Does
that make me an anti vaxxer? Because I questioned the
government dictator of whether I do it?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And I'm not speaking for anybody else.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I'm only speaking for myself, but for let's have an
honest debate about these things.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Senator Ran Paula Kentucky, who's an ophthalmologist, he's actual medical professional,
weighing in at the RFK Junior hearing yesterday, and you heard.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
The main point of his screed there at the end,
and you'll hear it more. The idea that can we
stop insisting we must all be of lockstep on some
of these difficult questions. We have to have an atmosphere
of honest debate. And he's absolutely right. Anything else to
add or shall we plunge on, Let's hit it.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Biden's FAA exceeded its goal and follow year.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Hello, Michael, the COVID vaccine. Pay attention.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
If you ask me my opinion.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
The reporters are uping down the hall and they say
you still anti vaccine. No, I'm pro vaccine, but on
the COVID vaccine and on the COVID illness there was
a thousandfold or more difference between the elderly and children.
If you don't acknowledge that your commit malpractice.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
You're showing your ignorance.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
If you say a six month old must be mandated
to get it.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
The science is not there.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
So all this blather about the science says this, and
the science says that, no, it doesn't. The science actually
shows it. No healthy child in America died from COVID.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Look it up. No healthy child died from COVID.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
An amazing stat given the fact that we had yellow
caution tape around playground structures and little kids wearing masks.
Good lord, we haven't even talked about that part of it.
So this was a school being closed and the parts
being closed on, all this sort of stuff. Poor little
kids running around with masks on, can't see you know,
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the other kids' faces or whatever for no reason.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Right, even when that became clear because of Trump derangement syndrome,
absolutely unforgivable.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Rand Paul rolls on.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
So if you ask me my advice as a physician,
if you were sixty five or older, or overweight and
some other conditions, I would.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Have said, hell, yes, I'd take the COVID vaccine.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
The risks of the disease were real and much greater
than the vaccine. But if you ask me, should my
healthy six month old get it? See, these are the
nuances you're unwilling to talk about because there's such a
belief in submission. Submit to the government to what you're told.
There is no discussion. There ought to be a debate.
You're not going to let him have the debate because
you're just going to criticize and say it is this
(03:23):
and admit to it, or we're not going to appoint you.
But it's more complicated than that, and this is why
people distrust government because you're unwilling to have these conversations.
And I go home, ask your Democrat young mothers, your
Republican young mothers, if they're vaccinating their kid for appetitis
being They're like, well, do I have to do it
on day one? Is this precious little baby? Is there
science to say you shouldn't do it?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Probably not, But it's my kid.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
It's like, there isn't clear cut science saying not to.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I need to start saying nuances instead of a nuance.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Please don't, please don't do that. He pointed out earlier
in his screen. I guess it was edited out that
hepatitis B is generally spread through drug use of needle drugs,
and sexual You're making.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
An assumption that my six month old is not a
smack addict having unprotected sex with randos. The idea that
a one day old kid needs that vaccine, then it's
you know, if I'm wrong about this, I will manfully
announce it and apologize. But I suspect very very strongly
that the idea is we will get much higher compliance
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if we have the HEV vaccine. Part of the battery
of things that you give the kid in the hospital
while the kid is there. And you know, if we
let people wait until it's actually necessary, we'll get lower
compliance and more people will get sick and hurt and
die and the rest of it. Again, maybe it's sort
of kind of well meaning, but I think we're all
sick of that sort of paternalism and dishonesty to get
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us to comply rolling along.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
But on autism, there's no good science of anything to
show what causes autism.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
We don't know. It's a profound disease.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I know many moms here and dads who have kids
that aufics. I know them personally, I've met their kids.
But the thing is is they saw their kids developing
completely normal, maybe speaking one hundred words go to no
words at about fifteen months of age.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Now, there isn't proof. There isn't proof that the vaccines
caused it. That's true. There isn't proof that it calls it.
But we don't know what causes it yet.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
So shouldn't we be at least open minded We take
seventy two vaccines.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Could it be?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I don't know, But we shouldn't just close the door
and say we're no longer because we believe so much
in submission, we're not going to have an open mind
to study these things, and so it's sort of this
crazy notion.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
I have found no compelling evidence that indeed autism is
caused by inoculations vaccines, on the other hand, is ran
Paul makes clear again that's yet another example of if
we even have an honest debate and look at this
and have some more studies and all in an open way,
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we will have lower compliance rates. It's all about compliance,
and again with a few exceptions. Maybe I think complying
with a lot of the vaccine policies is a really,
really good idea. But the days of being able to
just shout to the sheeople what they have to do
and they'll all line up and do it, even though
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you're presenting it dishonestly, I just there's so much information
out there they can't get away with it anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Are there seventy two that your kid has to get
to go to school?
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Now, I've seen that repeatedly. I don't know that that's true.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
If it's half that many, that's a lot total doses. Perhaps, yeah,
and I'm including boosters. You know, I'm so cynical about government.
It's just particularly pre COVID, we paid so little attention
to this. Why would I believe that somebody somewhere doesn't think, hey,
you know what, you get this on the mandated list,
that's worth five billion dollars. How do we get that
(06:56):
through whatever committee to get you know, and one more
when there's already one or thirty six or whatever shots
adding one more that nobody's paying any attention to. You
just take your kid to the doctor and they hey,
you need this group of injections to go to first grade,
and everybody just says, okay. There's so much money involved,
I find it hard to believe that there's zero malfeasan's
(07:17):
going on. Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Very very little profit in vaccines, but times a billion, yeah,
maybe it becomes significant.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
The you know, the.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Aspect of it that that I think is likely. Well,
I don't have any proof this is happening, but the
government and its mandates, particularly in the wake of COVID,
I think deserve whatever is the opposite of the benefit
of the doubt. If somebody came to me and showed
me the secret memo that said, look, if we get
ninety eight percent compliance with this vaccine. We will prevent
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ten thousand deaths a year. It's going to result in
about a thousand kids getting being autistic, but as a
net gain, it's it's a good So we're just gonna
be quiet about the autism stuff. And I don't actually
believe that's happening. But if you do because of what
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you've observed from the government, I can't call you crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Right, there's no possible way they know what the long
term effect of the combination of some of these vaccines
are because they haven't been around long enough. Right.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
More of the Randyman schizophrenia.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I would put in the same notion.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
You have a kid who's completely normal to eighteen or
nineteen and their brain goes heywire.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
How does that happen? It's the most bizarre disease.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Shouldn't we be.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Open Could it be our food? It might be vaccines,
it might be our food. But autism is more common.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I don't know about the schizophrenia statistics, but autisms more common.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Should we want to be open minded? Instead?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
We're so close minded and we're so consensus driven that
the science says this, Well, science doesn't say anything. Science
is a dispute and ten years from now.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
We could all be wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Roll on, Curly, roll on.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Twenty years ago, they did this enormous study and they
said everybody over fifty should take an aspirin.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I thought, well, it's a pretty good idea, it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
But you know what, twenty years later they measured it
and they found if you had no heart disease and
you were taking aspen, your chance of dying from a
brain bleed or from a stomach bleed were greater than
the risk of heart disease. You have heart disease, they
still say take an aspirin if you don't have changed
your mind twenty years later. But would you have all
said I was crazy and I should no longer be
in public discourse if I had said twenty years ago,
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I don't feel like taking an aspir I ride my
bike all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I'm afraid it might hit my head.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
But that's what countries about, is what decent is about.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
That's a good example. Yeah, yeah, it is one final clip.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
So just to ask you to look at the larger
picture and give the guy break who says I just
want to follow the science where it leads without presupposition.
I think, really, what we have up here is presupposition.
You've already concluded it's absolute that autism isn't caused by it.
We don't know what causes autism, so we should be
more humble in what we say.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Sorry, I didn't get to a question.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
That doesn't make me say therefore, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
But you can't deny that we are openly having some
of these conversations thanks to our FK.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Junior and his advocacy.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
He's got some really troubling conflicts of interest, and he's
half a con man if you ask me.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
But still Da Da knows how to turn lemons into lemonade.
You find a dead bear, what do you do? You
just leave it there? You bury it? No, you come
up with a hilarious prank.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Not to mention the underrated, Bring in a whales head
home chain, sawing it off the whale and then strapping
it to the roof of your car as its juice
is dripped down the window.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Barbaric.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Okay, we got on a topic earlier we need to
fix when we come back. As we finished strong with
the UH is flatulent speech. I vote no. I don't
think it has First Amendment protections.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
It is unmistakably speech in this instance, and I believe
that Thomas Jefferson would agree with me, certainly Ben Franklin,
who was a big fan of Flatulen.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong and Getty Show, arm Strong
and Getty Show, Katie.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I want you your assessment of this. Also, this is
a next door post. I don't read next door very often,
but I don't know. If you're on next door, you
get him in your email and like, if the first
eight words grab your attention, I will vote in the
next door thing and read double. I mean, if it's
just I lost my kitten, I don't read it, but
this one got my attention. I'm general, I'm genuinely sorry.
(11:59):
If anyone here's crying and strained yelling from my apartment,
well that was enough for me to click on it.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Oh wit a minute, crying and strained yelling.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
No one is in danger or anything. I'm just in
an unbelievable amount of physical and emotional pain from a
combination of expected factors. I need to get through this
on my own terms. Okay, now hang with this. You're
probably like me because my initial feeling was this is
a crack pop then I thought, oh my gosh, this
is a tragic story. Somebody the physical pain thing. I
(12:28):
just let's keep going concerned. Okay, all right. The muscles
in my chest are atrophying from medication, spasming like a
like a painful hiccup, and my support at home is
currently singing in Napa. My supported home is singing in Napa.
But anyway, again, I'm starting to feel, man, this is horrible.
I'm just being real with y'all. Retranshealth. Okay, now we're
(12:51):
taking a turn. Oh wait a minute. It's not supposed
to be this difficult. People are meant to have family
and community connections to help, but I don't. I implore
everyone take my situation as cautionary. There is more pain
caused by taking away access to healthcare or kicking out
your relatives than there is in being open to unfamiliar
but long standing ideas about the human brain and physiological development. Honestly,
(13:15):
and creed or what. Honestly, I invite you to do
some primal screams with me, or we're all going to
need the catharsis if the political situation stays on this
globally destructive trajectory. Thank you so I took that as
they're doing some sort of transition stuff and like didn't
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have the money for the follow through or all the medication,
or they're doing it on their own, or they're doing
something with their breast area retrans transitioning and it's really painful,
and everybody has called them a nut job and left.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
That's what it sounds like to me. Now for me,
and then Katie, I'll get out of your way. Now
for me, please rope in somehow that last sentence about
the globally destructive trajectory. Now that factors into his newly
or her what's newly removed Hooters or whatever, yeah, or
recently added one of each.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I don't know. All I got is there was a
lot there. That's a lot. There was a lot going
on with that.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
And again this person, I'm sorry they're going through it,
but they went. The thing that is going to help
me right now is to put this on next door.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Right.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Well, there's that as well. Man, I'm running some sort
of a mental health place. I'm calling out the swap
team for this one. Yeah, so we're gonna need like
half a dozen experts.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, as Joe pointed out there then throwing in at
the end that somehow, if Trump weren't president, I wouldn't
be screaming in my apartment. Everything would be fine. I
don't know what would be different.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
The human need for escapegoat, I think is underappreciated. Have
the great philosophers weighed in on this? The mom the
muscles in.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
My chest are atrophying from medication, spasming like a painful hiccup.
So you think it's somebody getting rid of breasts. I
don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
I can't I can't sound likely answer any questions about this.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, Kittie, that sounds to me like it's written by
a woman. I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I'm thinking I'm a trauma queene guy.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I've known a few.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Well, yeah, the first he's on the girl hormones as
a way of making you crazy. You know, if FA's
to anybody, the first sentence is, I'm genuinely sorry if
anyone hears crying and strained yelling from my apartment.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, that's better unstrained yelling, certainly. Wow, that's a terrible situation,
and that would imply that you're like screaming out loud,
loud enough for other people to hear you. You don't
have any relationship with your next door neighbors, so the
best way to reach out to them is through next
door and hope they read it. Oh that's a sad
(15:54):
human even as a missing trope. If I lived anywhere
for very long in an apartment complex, I you know,
I had a certain relationship with the people right next
to me.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
But just that the person with that incredible I mean
practically incomprehensible stew of issues then bringing it home to
and by the way, that damn Trump.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Is the root of all this. Wait what Yeah, I
invite you. I mean, essentially, I invite you to do
some primal screams with me. We're all going to need
the Catharsis if the political situation stays on this globally
destructive trajectory. Yeah right, Well, I was gonna bring you
a lasagna, but I don't know. You seem like a
(16:34):
lot long day. Yeah, you seem like a lot. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
They long for those calm and placid Biden Harris years.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
All right, that was one of the best next doors
I ever clicked on in terms of making Yes, Michael, I.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Have one as well. Okay, we need good handyman, need
to put up shed.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Please email me who drives that red car? It goes
tost eat good handymen need to put up shed. That's
a good one too, Michael. That's a lot of them.
Has nothing to do with adriffing muscles in your chest
because all your Because that was one of my favorite
(17:15):
sentences was my support at home is currently singing in Napa.
Well support group went to a singing competition? Is that
bad for them? Give him a minute ago singing Napa.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
It's pretty Jack Armstrong and Joey The Armstrong and Getty Show,
The Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Show to talk to the former Border Patrol Grand Pooba
twenty sixth chief of the United States Border Patrol, now retired,
Jason Owens, joins The Armstrong and Getty Show this morning. Jason,
how are you today?
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Good Jack? I've never been called a grand two bottles.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Or thank you for that the big geez. So what
years were you the guy in charge? So I was?
Speaker 7 (18:11):
I was the chief of the Border Patrol from the
summer of twenty three until March of twenty five.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Okay, what do you know what the history is of
our border enforcement? I mean, did we used to have
much stricter border enforcement, and people just chose not to come,
or did the economics change to where people want to
come across and so we now we need more border agents.
(18:39):
I actually don't know that the whole dynamic has changed.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
It's not just about the traffic that we're seeing, but
it's about the public's awareness and attention to the issue.
That the border has always been an issue in some
form or fashion. It's just that we didn't pay as
much attention to it. You know, back in the nineties
when I started, you know, the Border Patrol was a
a small agency that not many people knew about. We
only had a few thousand agents and predominantly focused on
(19:05):
immigration along the southwest border with Mexico. Nobody really gave
any thought to the economic migration. Most of the folks
came from Mexico. They'd come up and they'd try and
find work. They'd center emittances home and during the holidays
they'd go back home visit their family, and then they'd
try again as soon as the holidays were over. And
that's really the extent of you know, what was border
(19:27):
security during that time.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
And throughout the.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
Ages, we've had those surges where we've had very busy times.
And I'm sure you know being out there in California.
You know, back in the nineties, San Diego was incredibly busy.
But it was a different demographic that was crossing then.
It was it was a very different mission because nine
to eleven hadn't happened yet, and our awareness of the
threats that are out there didn't exist.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
In what way was it a different demographic that was
crossing back then versus down Well, like I.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Said, predominantly had a lot of folks from Mexico and
they were mostly single adult and they were coming forth
to find jobs in the US and send money back
home and they would go home to their families. Well,
over time that started to shift because people started to
see that, well, the situation got a little bit rougher
in Mexico. You had people from Central and South America
(20:17):
that were interested in coming up as well, and people
started to see that it was more difficult for US
to remove people from the country if they didn't come
from Mexico. Most of the time, if you caught Jason
Owens from Mexico and you said, hey, do you want
to go before an immigration judge and see if you're
going to be deported or if you can stay here
(20:38):
most of the time, they would say, you know what,
I'm going to voluntarily return and skip all of that,
knowing that it is probably going to turn right around
and try and cross again, and eventually that they made
it because of the year. You know how big the
border is and how few agents we had. Well, you
can't do that with folks from other countries because Mexico
(21:00):
was under no obligation to take those folks back if
they're not citizens of Mexico, and we don't have those
those processes and procedures in place with these other countries
in many cases, and in many cases it's a lot
more expensive than just walking them across the border to
the authorities in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah. Also, there is no place in the country you
were going to get free healthcare as someone here illegally
not that many years ago and now he can. So
there are different magnets rather than just jobs. We all
so didn't have anything like fentanyl or meth way back
in the day. How much different has that made the
(21:37):
drugs that are available in our appetite for them here
in the United States.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Well, and talking about how the dynamic has changed along
the border. Make no mistake about it. The cartels control
everything that's coming across illicitly across our borders. And that's
whether that's people, whether that's you know, illicit substances, whether
that's money, you name it. And so you know, back
in the again in the early two thousands and nineties,
(22:03):
and you know, it was all about marijuana, and you
had cocaine, and you had some meth cases and the
like and heroin. Those are the traditional narcotics that we
would come across. And of course, you know, the world's
view on marijuana has changed, and so the cartels adapted
and they look for the next best thing, because at
the end of the day, there's a business and they're
(22:24):
looking at how can I make money off of you
know what it is I'm doing well, they took a
pivot to two things. Number One, fentnel started becoming much
more prominent because of how potent it is and how
easy it is to make comparatively. And then also they
got into the people business. They got into human trafficking
because for the longest time, there was not as much
(22:47):
risk associated people would be a little bit more sympathetic
to folks that were smuggling people across the border than
they would somebody bringing across kilos of cocaine, and so
they shifted to the product it was going to be
in more demand and where they stood to make the
most money with less risk. That's officially been what the
cartel's business model has been and how it has impacted
(23:09):
the dynamic along particularly the southwest border.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
That's interesting. So that doesn't surprise me. But you say
the cartel, nothing's really happening without their approval.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
Absolutely not. And there's different ones that are out there.
And if you talk to anybody in the national security space,
especially with CDP and Border patrol, they will tell you
that that is our true adversary. The smugglers, the criminals,
the cartel members, those are the ones that we face
off against every single day, and when we go out
there to help secure the border, that is who we
(23:42):
have in mind. The immigration issue, it's an important one.
We have to have law and order, but the national
security aspect of border security is really what is first
and foremost on our minds because that represents by far
the greatest threat to our country.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
And the Mexican government just can't get control of those
cartels apparently it's.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
A tough situation. They You know, if you think about
an adversary like the cartels, that the amount of money
that they make. And I'll use Del Rio sector in
Texas as an example, because I was the I was
the sector chief there before I took over as chief
of the Border Patrol. And that's a that's a pretty remote,
small sector. And of course back a couple of years
(24:25):
ago that was front and center with Eagle Pass and
you all the and the Haitian migration. Well, that little
sector just off of human trafficking alone, we estimated that
the cartels were pocketing upwards of thirty thirty five million
dollars a week. Wow, you do the you do the math,
and that's not narcotics. That's nothing but human smuggling in
(24:48):
one sector of nine across the southwest border. You know,
for and again my Oklahoma math that that's over one
point five billion dollars a year in one sector that
they're making. So you're talking about an adversary that is
well funded, unlimited resources, and nothing but time to sit
there and think about how they're going to defeat whatever
(25:10):
security measures we have in place. And part of that
is destabilizing the communities and the governments in Mexico so
that they can maintain a foothold and keep an advantage.
And that's been a persistent problem for our partners over
in Mexico for for years.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, it's a very gentle way of saying it. Destabilize
the communities, as in, if you're the cops in that town,
you're going to die if you try to take them on.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Absolutely, And I would have conversations with my counterparts these
they would be the Satana generals, or they would be
the colonels over sam Are, and they would tell you,
it's not that we don't want to respond or we
don't want to help out.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's just that the.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Life we're living down here is very different.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
You know.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
They literally deal with at times gun battles in the streets,
people that are being murdered, dismembered. There are legitimate threats
to their families, and they go out there and do
the job. So you have to you have to respect
and empathize with the situation that they're in. So I
don't always buy into, oh, it's just it's just a
matter of corruption. No, there's there's a lot of factors
(26:13):
that get taken into account that I think any of
us in that situation would be faced with.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, culturally, that's why we've got to hang on to
our culture of not having very much corruption, because man,
once you lose that, it's tough to turn it around.
That's rough. So talking about it, talking about the border.
When we just say the border, we all assume the
border between US and Mexico, but you say, there's a
lot more going on between the United States and Canada,
now the longest unde defended border in the world.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
It was always funny to me every time I would
talk to a member of Congress or staffers or in
many cases, reporters, and it still didn't get covered as
much as I would have liked. People forget, Yes, there's
about two thousand miles between US and Mexico, but there's
four thousand miles a border between US and Canada that
if you don't count that vertical slash that Alaska shares,
(27:04):
which is another fifteen hundred miles. And oh, by the way,
we have thousands of miles of coast and most people
don't think about it in these terms. We actually share
a border, a coastal border with Russia because of Alaska.
So we have some legitimate things to think about in
vulnerabilities that exist along our multiple borders and the threats
(27:25):
both state and non state actors that are out there.
And I think that deserves a space in the discussion
anytime we're talking about national security and especially border security,
because if you're going to resource an agency that's responsible
for keeping us safe, you have to take into account
all that they are responsible for, and not just one
piece that the mainstream media wants to focus on.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
What percentage of border patrol is on the southern border
versus the northern border. Do you have any idea?
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Typically about ninety percent of our workforce is deployed on
the southwest border, and you can do the matt roughly
twenty thousand agents depending on the season that we're in.
You have ninety percent deployed down to the southwest border
and the rest are on the northern border, our coastal
(28:14):
sectors and in many cases overseas and our offices.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, Man, if it ever becomes a real problem, or
maybe you're saying it already, is of things coming across
the Canadian border. I remember when I drove into Calgary
one time, I was headed up to Calgary, just crossing
on a two lane highway in the middle of nowhere,
there's basically nothing there. Showed them a driver's license and
drove in. That's all there was to it. How many
drugs are coming across the Canadian border at this point?
(28:40):
Do you have any idea?
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Well, and that's that's the million dollar question, so to speak.
That we get asked a lot of times what's getting away.
There's what we catch, and that's between us and the
Office of Field Operations that works at the ports of entry.
Ours is the job between the ports of entry. So
there's what we actually catch, what we may see and
are able to get to. But then there's that great void,
(29:02):
that great unknown, and that exists even along the Southwest
border that a lot of people don't realize as well.
There's so much of the border that we don't have
persistent surveillance. We don't know what's coming across or what's
going on because we're not out there and we don't
have the technology. In today's age, it's hard to imagine
that there's actually still areas out there where there's no
(29:24):
cell coverage, there's no reception, and you need that for
the technology to be effected. So there's a lot of
spaces out there where we don't have that situational awareness,
and so we can't tell you with any level of
certainty what's coming across, what's getting away. And that's one
of the things I always said. It keeps us up
at night. It worries is because we know the potential
(29:46):
and you don't want to have something like that happen
on your watch.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, man, that is true. Jason Owen's twenty six chief
of the United States Border Patrol. Appreciate your time today
as very interesting stuff.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
Good talk to you, Jake, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You bet you, Jack, Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and
Getty Show, The arm Strong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Over the weekend, the rapper known as four Extra lost
two fingers in a fireworks accident. He's now changed his
name to three Left. The good news is he's no
longer throwing up gang signs.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
You know, I saw that first punch line coming, but
I enjoyed it a lot. Three Left and get it
and be carefuble of fireworks kids gender Manning Madden. This
uptake coming up next segment, But first, a handful of
consumer oriented stories that I found intriguing in or amusing
Wall Street Journal reporting. Vanity sizing is forcing petit women
(31:03):
into kids' clothes, changing styles, and the supersizing of apparel
is pushing shoppers to unusual.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Lengths to find something that fits.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
The subheadline is so much glitter, Yeah, you better like sparkles. Yeah,
the petit women who have you know, been forced to
go for children's sizes because the American girth has been increasing.
More on that in a moment, but everybody knows this right.
The apparel industry for years has been employing vanity sizing,
(31:34):
making clothes larger and larger while keeping the sizes the same,
making matters worse for some slender shoppers. Is a current
fashioned woman in which oversized looks are in vogue. The
result clothes so big that slender people are swimming in them.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, I know it. So with young people, they're all
wearing super giant, baggy clothes.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
This gallows five to fives. Try petite clothing, but because
those fits are designed for shorter people, the shirt sleeve
stop ab of her wrists and the genes don't even
graze her ankles. Children's clothes fit better, but the styles
aren't sophisticated, too many flowers and so much glitter. Final
note on this, The average American woman weighs about one
hundred and seventy pounds, which is thirty pounds more than
(32:17):
she did in nineteen sixty. According to the National Center
for Health Statistics, average is one seventy.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
That is correct? Is that average or median?
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Because if there's like one fifty thousand pound woman, that's
why it's like the Bill Gates walks into a bar,
thing right, your net worth? Your average networth, et cetera,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Bill Gates could walk into a bar and change the
average in net worth. A fifty thousand pound woman is
not going to roll into the bar or probably the buffet.
No oh my, that was insensitive. She expectedly thousand pounds.
She needs some tough talk. Look at yourself when you
(32:58):
hit thirty thousand, didn't you think you know?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
We gotta change something.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
This is terrible.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
There's something terribly wrong here. Because the average height for
a woman is five to three. So if we're averaging
at one seventy, that seems pretty portly.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think that that sounds high to me.
That sounds really you arguing.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
With the name National Center for Health Statistics.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I guess I am, But that just that sounds high
to me. There's a lot more to get to, okay.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
The Brazilian butt lift surgery is a procedure that enhances
the size and shape of someone's rear end through a
fat transfer.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I know what, I've had two of them.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
It's often considered a dangerous procedure by experts since there's
a possibility of death, infection, and more. I would restructure
that sentence once you have death. Infection is kind of irrelevant, right,
but more the more. But this popular and freaking stupid surgery.
Do you seriously think having a bigger butt is going
(34:03):
to materially change your life?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
It's better it's for bigger or higher you lift. It's
it's both. I'd like mine higher. It makes it not
only higher.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Not only is BBL surgery risky, there's one bizarre, rather
gross side effect that comes along that the potential patients
should consider. It's called the BBL smell, and it is real.
This doctor, what uh? There's often a smell expected for
BBL patients after sweating or sitting for long periods, an
(34:36):
aggressive scent.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Because I'm guessing because you have crevasses.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
No, no, uh, there are uh tissue death, which is
a BBL complication and unhygienic habits that could cause someone
with BBBL to have a smelly b hunh.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
This is the worst thing you ever done, by a lot. Yeah,
we're done, horrible.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I am issuing an important warning to people who might
fall prey to this insidious procedure. If a patient was
quote overfilled with fat during the procedure, fat necrosis, which
is when fatty tissue in the butt dies, can occur
as a result of RADSID smell develops.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Well, yeah, I imagine you smell like a dead body.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Yes, infections that need antibiotics, hospitalizations, and even that leads
to sepsis.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Okay, well, this has been a treat, Thanks Joe. What
is that coloni you're wearing? Black plague?
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Is that dead raccoon?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
No, that's my BBL surgery gone wrang.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
I'm telling you, ladies, Oh beautiful the way you are
all right, God.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
You gotta wear the kids clothes and you smell like
a dead body and things are going well for it.
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