September 8, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- Zelensky's message for European nations...
- Global Warming data is misleading...
- Malcolm Gladwell reverses course on Trans Athletes...
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong Show, Ketty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Getty, and He Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Large attack over the weekend Russia on Ukraine. Trump was
asked about it yesterday says he's not happy about it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You're about to hear more about that. In a second.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Mark Halpern and he has good sources continues to report
that Team Trump is split on whether they're going to
pressure Putin again for more talks.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Or to win the war.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Both on the ground by supplying military equipment and by
crushing Moscow's economy. So inside the White House there's a
debate of we keep talking about talks which is basically nothing,
or we're gonna go all in. We're going to try
to crush our economy and give Ukraine stuff to beat
the crap out of them.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
My follow up question would be, how are you going
to get him to the table without exercising some sort
of leverage, which I assume would be economic sanctions, which
wouldquote unquote crush their economy.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Does somebody actually still think, like within twenty miles of
the White House that Putin actually wants peace.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I mean, if they do slap them hard. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well, here's Martha Raddits with a report on ABC yesterday
about the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
We met President of Voladimir Zelinski at this hollowed out
American owned factory here in western Ukraine, destroyed by Russian
cruise missiles two weeks ago. All six hundred employees made
it to the nearby bunker, but twenty three were injured this.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
American owned building. Do you think Putin targeted this on purpose?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I think nobody knows. Maybe on the gods he has,
but Putin knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Here.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
One thousand camiters the distance to the front even a
little bit more.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Not an area that's usually hitting.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
No.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
No.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
In fact, this region in southwest Ukraine, hundreds and hundreds
of miles from the front line, has rarely been hit
over the course of the war.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah. I thought that was interesting they put the map
up and that so that American factory clear seven hundred
miles away into the south of Kiev in the front lines.
I can't imagine that that wasn't on purpose. Now, maybe
Putin actually believed that there were manufacturing, you know, things
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that it contributed to the war there. I think it's
more likely he just attacked an American entity just as
a thumb in the.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Eye, just have you. I think that's interesting. He does
not know why you would poke Trump.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I still haven't figured that out, unless he wants to
provoke an overreaction that justifies.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I think his reed is more with NATO. I think
his read is more that I keep going hard. The
biggest attack over the weekend of the entire war, and
I know we say that every other day. Practically, eight
hundred drones and missiles on Kiev Saturday night by far
the biggest attack of the war. I think he's leaning
towards we were just talking about there's a split in
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the White House. He reads Mark Alprin and everybody else
is reporting on this. You know he does. He believes
that split in the White House is gonna win him.
To throw up your hands and screw it. A guy
wants to win way more than we care about stopping him.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So we're out.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, Yeah, that's not an unreasonable guess. Here's a little
more on Zelensky's unhappiness with Europe.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Mister President, you talk about more sanctions and more tariffs,
and more help from President Trump. And you have told
them you think he has the power to do this,
and yet the deadlines pass again and again, and another
one has passed.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
We all understand that we need additional pressure on put him,
We need pressure from the United States. And I said that,
I think that President from his right about that. Europeans
are very thankful to all the partners, but some of them,
I mean, they continue buy oil and Russian gas, and
this is not fair.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
If to be open and to be clear, it's not fair.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, it is quite amazing that a lot of those
European countries are still buying Russian oil and gas. I mean,
that's their backyard. And that makes you know jd Vance's argument. Really, Look,
if you people don't care, why should we care. You
ain't about to invade us. The Euros are such like Trustafarians.
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They've been under our security umbrella. They've grown their bloated
welfare states. They're all going broke.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
They're really formerly significant powers, and they can't even muster
up the will to find their gas and oil somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
They're so weak.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Britain is pooping on free speech to cover up the
inadequacies of their own government.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's just it's all very discouraging.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I can see why shej In Ping is thinking, Yeah,
the era of American hogmity is ending.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
We need to position ourselves. Why wouldn't he think that?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
So some of those world leaders are coming to the
White House today and tomorrow to discuss all that sort
of stuff. Trump was asked yesterday morning as he was
going somewhere, probably to play golf, you know, what do
you think about Putin's big attack Saturday night? He said,
I don't like it. We're you know, they are gonna
be severe consequences. His critics are right, and that he
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has been saying severe consequences for a long time without
any severe consequences coming. My only possible pushback to that
would be he did the same thing with Iran until
the day that he attacked them harder than anybody to
attack them in forty years.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
So right, right, You certainly could make the case that
he does it on his timetable, not yours. Although it
has been a very long time and a lot of
promises of you know, severe pressure coming eventually, haven't seen
it yet.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Different military actions with the United States, we deployed, we
talked about this on Friday, we deployed ten fighter jets
to Puerto Rico in the fight against the drug cartels.
According to various sources. This is what Jennifer Griffin of
Fox said over the weekend. Why would you need F
thirty five stealth fighter jets for a counter narcotics mission?
The F thirty five's being sent to Puerto Rico are
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usually used for large bombing missions, like the one that
targeted Iran's nuclear facilities. A fifth generation supersonic fighter jet
known for its lethality, So we might be he jumping
super ugly with Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah. Maybe.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
There are a lot of comments to that tweet saying
they actually those jets also have our most advanced censors
and you know, and radars and the rest of it,
and they can They're fabulous for data collection. So yeah,
don't assume, Jennifer, But who knows. And then it quickly
descended into some sort of I love Trump, I hate
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Trump pouring poison out on each other, but that's what
Twitter is.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So they buzzed our plane are our boats last week
a couple of times, and Ian Bremmer tweeted out, I'm
really surprised that Maduro is sending his f sixteens to
posture against US warships, the United States is preparing to
escalate unilaterally against Venezuela, And all he's doing is helping
make the argument, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
What does he doesn't think that's gonna scare us off?
Does he?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
It reminds me of the question we're asking about Putin
the other day. But does he hope for like some
sort of overreaction that then like change his world opinion?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, I think Putin could scare us off just by
looking more committed. And you know, the argument Jade Events
keeps making is they they really want this, They want
it more than we don't want it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So what are we doing here that ain't gonna happen
with Venezuela? Right right? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's
for internal consumption.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
God, if we actually, like do a beach invasion like
we practiced over the weekend in Puerto Rico, like a
mini Omaha beach World War two D Day invasion of
Venezuela with twenty five hundred marines, some of which will
probably die, that'll be quite the thing.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, I think with Doro, among totalitarian jerks, he has
a lot less solid handle on his country than a
lot of them do. And so I have a feeling
he's trying to come off as the great defender of
Venezuela to try to sway the populace because he is
a dictator. But they got a pretty decent opposition movement there.
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So yeah, I just think he's like, look at the
great Satan is threatening us, and we proud Venezuelans will
stand together.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Look what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I ordered our f.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Sixteens did go at him and say we're ready for
a fight.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
So that is off the coast of Venezuela where we
blasted that boat with eleven people in it that were
supposedly part of a horrible drug gang.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Quartel or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And of course you have to say allegedly or supposedly
because there was no trial and we don't actually know
the individual names or anything like that. There's been pushback
against that from Democrats, mainstream media, and the libertarian right.
Jd Vance suited out over the weekend. Killing cartel members
who poison our fellow citizens is the highest and best
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use of our military. Rand Paul had a big problem
with that, but then Jade Vance went on to say, Democrats,
let's send your kids to die in Russia. Republicans, actually,
let's protect our people from the scum of the earth.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He presented it that way.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I don't I don't know that anybody's actually arguing to
send US troops to Russia to die, and I haven't
heard anybody make that argument, but that's the way he
positioned it.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's man.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
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Speaker 2 (10:30):
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Speaker 2 (11:27):
It's good to be right.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Scale of one to ten. How troubled are you bias
blasting those people in that boat? Ten?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Being very concerned? Hmmm? Seven point two? Really okay, I'm
more like a two. Six point four. I'm more like
a two.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
It's I would say, I'm very interested in the ethical
legal questions involved. I'm more interested than troubled.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Maybe this makes me a bad person, but I think, yeah,
I'd be really off if we did that.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Uh, but whatever I suppose, I should be better than that. Yeah,
I got to worry about it. I just know. Yeah,
definitely makes you a bad person. But no, I'm.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I love the idea of defending our borders from the
drug murderers, the sellers of deadly poison. We do have
a hell of a consumption problem in the US. But
I like that very much. I just I want it
to be done fairly carefully because whenever and this is
you know, the small libertarian coming out of me, and
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and I certainly hope you all joined me in this.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Virtually every power exercised.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
By the government is a risk of them over exercising
that power, of abusing it, of using it against the
wrong people. You just should always be suspicious of government power.
That's why, even though I like a lot of things
Trump is doing, uh, there's a lot of these so
called emergencies that he's assuming new powers based on them.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That aren't really emergencies at all.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
And the Democrats will learn this lesson and you will
hate what they do with it. So yeah, I'm just
snuffing people from above without a trial, case by case basis.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Full team coverage an hour of the Video Music Awards
from MTV last night. Did Sabrina Carpenter go too far
with her sexiness?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Is this show? From nineteen eighty seven MTV Music Awards What?
It's way more attention than do you know anybody who
watches videos. I don't where do you even find videos
on YouTube?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
My kids are grown, but I can't even imagine somebody
telling me they watched the VMA.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
My kids love music, they are completely unaware of videos,
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I don't know who the VMA is are for.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
We got more on the way, stay here. The US
men's soccer team is its lowest rank of the twenty
first century, according to the latest rankings.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Apparently, maybe there'll be plucky upstarts like the nineteen eighty
miracle on ice hockey team in those shock.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
The world or not or die either. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
So that big report came out from the Energy Department
the other day challenging the widespread belief that greenhouse gas
emissions posed a serious threat to the nation.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I was just reading something that one of the authors.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Stephen is that his first name, Stephen Yees, Stephen Coonan,
who's with the Hoover Institution at Stanford. I thought it
was super interesting. He was kind of summarizing it, but
he points out there's a big disconnect between public perceptions
of climate change and climate science, and between past government
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report and the science itself and He talks about the
team brought two hundred years of research experience collectively, almost
all directly relevant to climate studies, and came up with
some very very serious data driven conclusions and observations, and
how a lot of the mainstream is just ignoring it or.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Pooh pooing it.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
And he makes a really good case that it's very
strongly based on data and science. And he's kind of
making the indirect point that it's a a bit of
a religion among some people, and b it's just such
an incredibly good excuse to pour money in various directions
nobody wants to admit, but anyway. Among the report's key
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findings elevated carbon dioxide levels, enhanced plant growth contributing to
global greening, and increased agricultural productivity.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, complex climate, I'm sorry. Complex climate models provide limited guy,
and some the climate's response to rising carbon dioxide levels.
Overly sensitive models, often using extreme scenarios, have exaggerated future
warming projections and consequences. UH data aggregated over the continental
US shows no significant long term trends in more extreme
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weather events, so claims of more frequent or intense hurricanes tornadoes,
floods and dryness in America.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Are not supported by historical records.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
You know what this reminds me of, Only it's a
much bigger deal and probably gonna be a little slower,
is the whole trans thing. So the trans thing became
such a religion there for a couple of years, and
you couldn't say anything that wasn't on board one hundred
percent with you know, the bathrooms and the boys and
girls sports and everything like that, or you'd be ruined.
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And then it fell apart pretty quickly. Yeah, is that
going to happen slightly slower? But with climate change?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Now? Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Don't you feel like, oh much money involve don't you
feel like there's a yeah, that's the big difference. There
weren't billions of dollars to be made around the trans issue.
There are trillions of dollars to be made around the
already have been made around the climate change issue. But
I don't you feel like that same sort of thing
is happening though, where it's just kind of crumbling and
it's like that whatever that phenomenon is, phenomenon is we've
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been talking about lady lately, where everybody's looking around saying, oh, okay,
more people think this than I thought, or I can
say out loud, I don't think climate change.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Is a big deal. Yeah, yeah, you know it's funny.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I meant to mention this Friday that Malcolm Gladwell, the
famous author.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, that's a good one. What time is it? Maybe
let's not rush it.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
That delivers a short shrift, full shrift that one delivers
deserves full shrift.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
But speaking of the trans thing, which is, you know,
mostly an effort by neo Marxist to get you to
bend the knee and say whatever they tell you to say,
including something as ridiculous as a man can become a
woman just by saying I'm a woman. Now, gladwell Is
actually came out and he said, no, that's ridiculous, but
I was afraid to say so.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
So yeah, the full story in that is pretty interesting
and it's troubling, and you wonder how many people are
in that situation.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That's on the way. A bunch of other stuff too.
Hope you can stay here, armstrong and getty.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
I'm pleased to announce this morning that the Department of
Education will soon issue new guidance protecting the right to
prayer in our public schools and this total protection.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Donald Trump this morning at the Museum of the Bible,
making a couple of announcements. By the way, coming up
in a little bit. I want to talk about it.
I went to an Eagle Scout ceremony yesterday for boy Scouts.
I want to talk about boy Scouts really really cool.
But Donald Trump went on to say, among things in
his speech which will lead Joe into his Malcolm Gladwell story,
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I made the official policy of the United States government
that there are only two genders, Trump said today, saying
that men and women's sports is an eighty twenty issue.
It's a ninety seven to three issue, just sam here.
Despite that, the fact that it's probably about a ninety
ten issue, people were so convinced that it was a
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grenade you were stepping on if you said anything about it,
people got their mouths shut for a long time, including
Malcolm Gladwell apparently.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, yeah, and it's worth observing that the.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Keeping dudes out of girls sports thing is still illegal
in some blue states, including the most populous state in
the Union where she used it, and still just have
to announce you're a girl and you can play girls'
sports and beat the hell out of the girls, and
with the smile and nod and approval of the left.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
It's craziness. Anyway, It's worth pointing.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Out that through the years, I mean, Malcolm Gladwell, he's
written a bunch of like super popular bestsellers, but so
much I really liked.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, yeah, and yeah yeah. He pissed me off so much.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I saw him participate in a debate and he like
inappropriately played the race card and the cancel culture card
in a couple of spots against Matt Tayebe and Douglas
Murray in ways that were just baffling and unfair.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, and I kind of soured on Gladwell. But as
I was starting to say, I.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Mean, he's been called one of the world's most one
hundred most influential people by Time back when that mattered.
Foreign Policy Magazine ranked him in its top one hundred
global thinkers. Newsweek chose him for the Top ten New
Thought Leaders of the decade a number of years ago.
Tipping point huge bestseller, he has seven New York Times bestsellers,
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twenty three million copies sold. His speaking fees are between
two and three hundred thousand dollars to come and do
a speech and as rich, I'm sorry. As Jim Gaherty
of the The National Review pointed out, you'd have to
look hard to find a guy with a better, higher
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or more stable perch in the American cultural elite than Gladwell.
And even this guy was afraid to say what he
really thought for fear of getting canceled, which is a
good point. So, you know, pity the poor employee at
some you know, West Coast, you know, corporation that's told
you have to believe this and say this or we're
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gonna wound out here.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
But anyway, what we're talking about is if you're a
teacher at a school, we're right.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Oh my god, what a great example, because there's so
many great teachers of reasonable conscience who just have to
choke down their disgust with what they're being told to
teach and believe. But anyway, so Gladwell did this podcast,
the Real Science of Sport podcast, which is interesting but
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I won't go off on a tangent to that, but
he and the moderator of the podcast had been on
a panel together. Malcolm was the moderator and Ross Tucker's
the other guy. Ross was on the panel as being
against guys playing in girls sports, And I'll just pick
up where Gladwell starts talking. Yeah, they stacked the panel.
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They stacked against your ross. They put a trans athlete
and a trans advocate and you on the panel. And
I was the moderator. And it was one of those
strange situations where my suspicion is that ninety percent of
the people in the audience were on your side, but
five percent of the audience was willing to admit it.
I've become fascinated with this concept of a preference falsification lately,
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where forceful advocates for a minority position are so adamant
and bullying that everybody sits there silently, then looks around
themselves and says, well, I guess nobody else disagrees. I'm
in a very small minority because everybody's being quiet. But
as Gladwell now says, he thought ninety percent of the
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audience was with but only five percent were willing to
admit it.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Let's see. Tucker says.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
My recollection of it is that everything I said was
met with deathly silence, and everything the other two said
got cheered.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Sure, and Gladwell says, well, the cheers.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I mean, I think there was a hardcore of people
who are ideologically committed to the position, but the idea
that I mean, there's many interesting things to say about
that conversation. One was that it was a particular moment
which has passed. We did a replay of that exact
panel at the Sloan Conference in March and it ran
in exactly the opposite direction.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Wow, I the bloom is off the Rose thing on
that topic.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, and then Gladwell says, and I think this is notable.
I just think it was strange. I mean I felt,
I mean, the reason I'm ashamed of my performance.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You should be ashamed.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
You should be actually ashamed.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yes, yes, yes, whenever you're being a coward in the
face of bullies who are pushing a perverse and ugly
ideology and you don't stand up, Yeah, you should be ashamed.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Especially I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
When you feel like you can't you realize I.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Get that, Especially when you're ungodly wealthy and the only
thing you're risking is the opinion of some nutjobs who
you think you're gonna run into it a party. I mean,
that is some weak tea right there.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Yeah, glad Well especially out to be monumentally ashamed. But
here's what he says. The reason I'm ashamed of my
performance on that panel is because I share your position
one hundred percent, and I was cowed the idea of
saying anything on this issue. I was in. I believe
in retrospect in a dishonest way.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I was. I was objective in a dishonest way.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Well, a lot of the real howlers pass without comment
because I didn't. And I said you in an email
of a uh, it's a oh, and I he's talking
about Riley Gains. They were trans athletes there. They were
the transathlete down the panel. Un At one point they
turned to you, Ross and they said, Ross, you have
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to let us win. And it was at that moment
I realized this position is gone to the furthest extreme.
What the trans movement is not asking for. They're not
asking for, you know, a place at the table. They're
not asking to be treated with respect and dignity. What
they're asking for is that no one questioned the considerable
physical physiological advantage they bring to the sport, and no
one can question if they're going to win these races
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by five seconds suck it up. That's what they were asking, right,
So there's no point in beating up on Malcolm Gladwell, uh, really, can.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
We come on? It's good cardiovascular exercise.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
So you let people like Riley Gaines put their physical
safety at risk by speaking what they believed or JK
Rowlings sticking her neck out. You agreed with them, but
you're too big a freaking coward, and you want to
be able to go to cool New York parties without
anybody giving you the side eye that you kept your
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mouth shut. I mean, that's so freaking weak. I'd be
ashamed to walk in public if I were that person. Yeah,
well you should be a shame to be in public.
I mean, seriously, that is so damn wek. You're ungodly rich,
you're as successful as you can get. You've got nothing
to lose, zero to lose by saying the truth. And
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you still were too big a coward because well I
want to be the cool guy at the party. God,
that's so weak. But I don't want to talk about
that because there's no point. What The interesting part that
we should all take to heart is that even at
that level, people are willing to go along with the
crowd if it's just easier. Yeah, even at that level.
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So if even if that level people are willing to
go that, we have to we have to factor that
into every phenomenon that comes ever again in our lives,
whether it's climate change, of trans or anything.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, the vast majority of people are are sheep, whether
by temperament or lack of courage, or as you often
point out, you're some young teacher or employee or whatever.
You got a couple of kids, you got mouths to feed.
Are you going to torch your career in some progressive
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city or state to make that brave stand If you
decide not to, I get it, because choking back your
anger and your disgust to continue to come through for
your family.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I have a great deal of sympathy for that.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
You know, we're in a different position, certainly in our
lives and by dint of what we do for a living.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
But somebody who does not have those fears and.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Knows that something ugly and wrong and reprehensible is being
spouted by these people and the damage it does to children.
Oh in the rest God, yes, and just sitting by
because you don't want any trouble.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I'm sorry, try to do better. Oh it's so weak.
And to sit there on a stage and watch somebody
who's taking your position, your secret position, and watching them
get the hell beat out of them by the crowd
and not speaking up. Good, that's weak.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah. How much credit do you get now for saying yeah,
I'm ashamed? Very very little?
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yeah, amen to that. Uh hey, quick, excuse me. The
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Speaker 2 (29:51):
Did you know? I didn't know this.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Tuberculosis is the world's deadly's disease. More people die from
tuberculosis than any other disease in the world.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I had no idea that I didn't either thought it
was still malaria or something.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So it seems like I could be a good idea
to try to keep that out of the United States.
It's been making a comeback various places. About one point
two five million lives worldwide every year, according to the
World Health Organization, Largely developing countries but making a comeback
in the United States. Some people believe because of our
vaccination nuttiness, we got it going on some places.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Well, and you let in millions of people who might
have tuberculosis without even asking them.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, that part of it, that part of it should
get more attention that we let in. That's where it
came from.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Well, yeah, but the left likes to make it all
about RFK junior and anti vax stances and not Well,
I did so because I got whooping coffin was the
sickest I've ever been outside of cancer in my life.
Well I didn't. Nobody needed a vaccination or an update
on their vaccination and gets whooping cough before you let
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in the biggest flood of migrants.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
In world history.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Right, So you might want to add that to your
part of the story. Anyway, I don't want to get
off track on that. I want to talk about the
eagle scout thing that I saw yesterday, which was really
really cool, and how it actually made me hopeful for
American I'm relatively unhopeful for all things positive, but this
was good news.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
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Speaker 6 (31:21):
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a really ugly cleaning life.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
That's not nice.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
So had several Scouting events yesterday, actually three different events
throughout the day for my son, who is in Boy
Scouts and joined Guess in the spring and has really
taken to it and loving it.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
And I've talked a lot about it.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And one of the big Scout leaders yesterday told me
I appreciated hearing good things about Scouts on the radio
because Scouts, like a lot of things, tend to only
get mentioned when something bad happens.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Now when all the good stuff happens.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
But I have been so impressed with the whole Boy
Scout thing since my son joined.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
But I hadn't been to an Eagle Scout ceremony.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
So one of the kids in his troop made Eagle Scout,
and so they did the big presentation thing that they do,
and everybody goes in the whole troop and parents show
up and everything like that. It was at a church,
which is another thing I didn't know as much about
Scouts as that that that that God has invoked so much. God, family,
country sort of thing. And it's it's very military like.
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I mean, they got the they got the whole flag ceremony.
I mean, people march out and put flags and you
get your salute and all that sort of stuff. It's
it's like cops, firefighters and military stuff you've been to
probably in your life. And a very fairly solemn affair
with various leaders talking about this kid and all the
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stuff that he did throughout the years, and I mean,
it was it made me emotional. It was just so
cool to see these kids take this so seriously and
and all the things that they did to get to
the level of Eagle Scout, which you don't know is
the highest thing you can accomplish in Scouting, and the
parents going up there and talking and all the different
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sorts of things. But the thing about Scouting that I
didn't understand is how it's so much about learning leadership qualities.
I know all about the canoeing and hiking and all
the first aid and you know what to do if
you get bit by a snake and all that sort
of stuff you learn in scouting, but all the leadership stuff,
it's all and once you get past a certain age,
it's almost entirely about going through these different camps and
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seminars to learn leadership skills and taking over small patrols
and bigger patrols and bigger patrols, and running meetings and
everything like that.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
The whole thing is kid run.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
The adult leaders just stand to the side in case
something really falls apart, which it rarely does. You just
you grow throughout the thing and take over, and then
you delegate authority. They were talking about how he had
had to be out of town for something and a
delegated authority to some people beneath him, and how smoothly
it went and everything just fantastic.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
And these kids.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Now, this kid is seventeen or eighteen, so he's practically
an adult now. But I know plenty of people that
have come into the work place as twenty three year
olds with a college degree and weren't a tenth of
this mature as a lot of these scouts I've been seeing.
It's so damned impressive. And it's because they're given responsibility,
and like human beings do, they rise to the challenge.
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And it's just I couldn't love it more.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Yeah, Yeah, I love hearing that too. I remember being
at one of those ceremonies years and years ago. You know,
it's and we'll talk more about this another time, but
I was just reading how and this was at time
dot com, which is generally a little progressive, used to
be magazine. A magazine, used to be a website that
people printed for some reason. Kids anyway, But it's this
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town where a bunch of moms have gotten together and
embraced the whole free range kid thing, and and it's
you know, there's a revealing quote in it. This Gal
said essentially that she had never made the connection between
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I wish I could find it real quickly, her kids
having responsibility.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
And their own confidence. There it is.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
I'd never made the connection that independence leads to resilience
and confidence. But now she has her kids make their
own school, don't She has ride their bikes to school
and the play dates, take care of their siblings.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
She'll soon she'll let her eight year old go to
the store alone.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Yeah, people, especially children, tend to rise to your expectations
of them, have high expectations.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, that's exactly what this whole scouting thing has proven
to me and what I'm watching and like, if they're
having trouble figuring out how to do whatever for a camp,
set up the tents or whatever. The adults don't jump
in and helicopter and help the airs what you need
to do. They got to figure it out on their own.
And one of the Scout leaders was telling me about
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this long hike that they all went on with a burrow,
the older kids a couple of weeks back, and how
he could just see them grow, how they walked taller afterwards,
having accomplished all the things they accomplished.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
It's just it's freaking awesome. That is amazing.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
How we ever, came to the conclusion that doing everything
for children from age zero to twenty five was.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Gonna make it better for them, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, the worship of safety and comfort. Where did that
come from? Well, the left, But yeah, it's unhealthy. Don't
do it.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
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Large attack over the weekend Russia on Ukraine. Trump was
asked about it yesterday says he's not happy about it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You're about to hear more about that. In a second.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Mark Halpern and he has good sources continues to report
that Team Trump is split on whether they're going to
pressure Putin again for more talks.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Or to win the war.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Both on the ground by supplying military equipment and by
crushing Moscow's economy. So inside the White House there's a
debate of we keep talking about talks which is basically nothing,
or we're gonna go all in. We're going to try
to crush our economy and give Ukraine stuff to beat
the crap out of them.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
My follow up question would be, how are you going
to get him to the table without exercising some sort
of leverage, which I assume would be economic sanctions, which
wouldquote unquote crush their economy.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Does somebody actually still think, like within twenty miles of
the White House that Putin actually wants peace.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I mean, if they do slap them hard. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well, here's Martha Raddits with a report on ABC yesterday
about the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
We met President of Voladimir Zelinski at this hollowed out
American owned factory here in western Ukraine, destroyed by Russian
cruise missiles two weeks ago. All six hundred employees made
it to the nearby bunker, but twenty three were injured this.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
American owned building. Do you think Putin targeted this on purpose?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I think nobody knows. Maybe on the gods he has,
but Putin knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Here.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
One thousand camiters the distance to the front even a
little bit more.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Not an area that's usually hitting.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
No.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
No.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
In fact, this region in southwest Ukraine, hundreds and hundreds
of miles from the front line, has rarely been hit
over the course of the war.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah. I thought that was interesting they put the map
up and that so that American factory clear seven hundred
miles away into the south of Kiev in the front lines.
I can't imagine that that wasn't on purpose. Now, maybe
Putin actually believed that there were manufacturing, you know, things
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that it contributed to the war there. I think it's
more likely he just attacked an American entity just as
a thumb in the.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Eye, just have you. I think that's interesting. He does
not know why you would poke Trump.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I still haven't figured that out, unless he wants to
provoke an overreaction that justifies.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I think his reed is more with NATO. I think
his read is more that I keep going hard. The
biggest attack over the weekend of the entire war, and
I know we say that every other day. Practically, eight
hundred drones and missiles on Kiev Saturday night by far
the biggest attack of the war. I think he's leaning
towards we were just talking about there's a split in
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the White House. He reads Mark Alprin and everybody else
is reporting on this. You know he does. He believes
that split in the White House is gonna win him.
To throw up your hands and screw it. A guy
wants to win way more than we care about stopping him.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So we're out.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, Yeah, that's not an unreasonable guess. Here's a little
more on Zelensky's unhappiness with Europe.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Mister President, you talk about more sanctions and more tariffs,
and more help from President Trump. And you have told
them you think he has the power to do this,
and yet the deadlines pass again and again, and another
one has passed.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
We all understand that we need additional pressure on put him,
We need pressure from the United States. And I said that,
I think that President from his right about that. Europeans
are very thankful to all the partners, but some of them,
I mean, they continue buy oil and Russian gas, and
this is not fair.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
If to be open and to be clear, it's not fair.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, it is quite amazing that a lot of those
European countries are still buying Russian oil and gas. I mean,
that's their backyard. And that makes you know jd Vance's argument. Really, Look,
if you people don't care, why should we care. You
ain't about to invade us. The Euros are such like Trustafarians.
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They've been under our security umbrella. They've grown their bloated
welfare states. They're all going broke.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
They're really formerly significant powers, and they can't even muster
up the will to find their gas and oil somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
They're so weak.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Britain is pooping on free speech to cover up the
inadequacies of their own government.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's just it's all very discouraging.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I can see why shej In Ping is thinking, Yeah,
the era of American hogmity is ending.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
We need to position ourselves. Why wouldn't he think that?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
So some of those world leaders are coming to the
White House today and tomorrow to discuss all that sort
of stuff. Trump was asked yesterday morning as he was
going somewhere, probably to play golf, you know, what do
you think about Putin's big attack Saturday night? He said,
I don't like it. We're you know, they are gonna
be severe consequences. His critics are right, and that he
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has been saying severe consequences for a long time without
any severe consequences coming. My only possible pushback to that
would be he did the same thing with Iran until
the day that he attacked them harder than anybody to
attack them in forty years.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
So right, right, You certainly could make the case that
he does it on his timetable, not yours. Although it
has been a very long time and a lot of
promises of you know, severe pressure coming eventually, haven't seen
it yet.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Different military actions with the United States, we deployed, we
talked about this on Friday, we deployed ten fighter jets
to Puerto Rico in the fight against the drug cartels.
According to various sources. This is what Jennifer Griffin of
Fox said over the weekend. Why would you need F
thirty five stealth fighter jets for a counter narcotics mission?
The F thirty five's being sent to Puerto Rico are
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usually used for large bombing missions, like the one that
targeted Iran's nuclear facilities. A fifth generation supersonic fighter jet
known for its lethality, So we might be he jumping
super ugly with Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah. Maybe.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
There are a lot of comments to that tweet saying
they actually those jets also have our most advanced censors
and you know, and radars and the rest of it,
and they can They're fabulous for data collection. So yeah,
don't assume, Jennifer, But who knows. And then it quickly
descended into some sort of I love Trump, I hate
(07:27):
Trump pouring poison out on each other, but that's what
Twitter is.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So they buzzed our plane are our boats last week
a couple of times, and Ian Bremmer tweeted out, I'm
really surprised that Maduro is sending his f sixteens to
posture against US warships, the United States is preparing to
escalate unilaterally against Venezuela, And all he's doing is helping
make the argument, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
What does he doesn't think that's gonna scare us off?
Does he?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
It reminds me of the question we're asking about Putin
the other day. But does he hope for like some
sort of overreaction that then like change his world opinion?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, I think Putin could scare us off just by
looking more committed. And you know, the argument Jade Events
keeps making is they they really want this, They want
it more than we don't want it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So what are we doing here that ain't gonna happen
with Venezuela? Right right? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's
for internal consumption.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
God, if we actually, like do a beach invasion like
we practiced over the weekend in Puerto Rico, like a
mini Omaha beach World War two D Day invasion of
Venezuela with twenty five hundred marines, some of which will
probably die, that'll be quite the thing.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, I think with Doro, among totalitarian jerks, he has
a lot less solid handle on his country than a
lot of them do. And so I have a feeling
he's trying to come off as the great defender of
Venezuela to try to sway the populace because he is
a dictator. But they got a pretty decent opposition movement there.
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So yeah, I just think he's like, look at the
great Satan is threatening us, and we proud Venezuelans will
stand together.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Look what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I ordered our f.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Sixteens did go at him and say we're ready for
a fight.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
So that is off the coast of Venezuela where we
blasted that boat with eleven people in it that were
supposedly part of a horrible drug gang.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Quartel or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And of course you have to say allegedly or supposedly
because there was no trial and we don't actually know
the individual names or anything like that. There's been pushback
against that from Democrats, mainstream media, and the libertarian right.
Jd Vance suited out over the weekend. Killing cartel members
who poison our fellow citizens is the highest and best
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use of our military. Rand Paul had a big problem
with that, but then Jade Vance went on to say, Democrats,
let's send your kids to die in Russia. Republicans, actually,
let's protect our people from the scum of the earth.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He presented it that way.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I don't I don't know that anybody's actually arguing to
send US troops to Russia to die, and I haven't
heard anybody make that argument, but that's the way he
positioned it.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's man.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
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Speaker 2 (11:27):
It's good to be right.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Scale of one to ten. How troubled are you bias
blasting those people in that boat? Ten?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Being very concerned? Hmmm? Seven point two? Really okay, I'm
more like a two. Six point four. I'm more like
a two.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
It's I would say, I'm very interested in the ethical
legal questions involved. I'm more interested than troubled.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Maybe this makes me a bad person, but I think, yeah,
I'd be really off if we did that.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Uh, but whatever I suppose, I should be better than that. Yeah,
I got to worry about it. I just know. Yeah,
definitely makes you a bad person. But no, I'm.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I love the idea of defending our borders from the
drug murderers, the sellers of deadly poison. We do have
a hell of a consumption problem in the US. But
I like that very much. I just I want it
to be done fairly carefully because whenever and this is
you know, the small libertarian coming out of me, and
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and I certainly hope you all joined me in this.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Virtually every power exercised.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
By the government is a risk of them over exercising
that power, of abusing it, of using it against the
wrong people. You just should always be suspicious of government power.
That's why, even though I like a lot of things
Trump is doing, uh, there's a lot of these so
called emergencies that he's assuming new powers based on them.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That aren't really emergencies at all.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
And the Democrats will learn this lesson and you will
hate what they do with it. So yeah, I'm just
snuffing people from above without a trial, case by case basis.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Full team coverage an hour of the Video Music Awards
from MTV last night. Did Sabrina Carpenter go too far
with her sexiness?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Is this show? From nineteen eighty seven MTV Music Awards What?
It's way more attention than do you know anybody who
watches videos. I don't where do you even find videos
on YouTube?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
My kids are grown, but I can't even imagine somebody
telling me they watched the VMA.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
My kids love music, they are completely unaware of videos,
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I don't know who the VMA is are for.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
We got more on the way, stay here. The US
men's soccer team is its lowest rank of the twenty
first century, according to the latest rankings.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Apparently, maybe there'll be plucky upstarts like the nineteen eighty
miracle on ice hockey team in those shock.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
The world or not or die either. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
So that big report came out from the Energy Department
the other day challenging the widespread belief that greenhouse gas
emissions posed a serious threat to the nation.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I was just reading something that one of the authors.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Stephen is that his first name, Stephen Yees, Stephen Coonan,
who's with the Hoover Institution at Stanford. I thought it
was super interesting. He was kind of summarizing it, but
he points out there's a big disconnect between public perceptions
of climate change and climate science, and between past government
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report and the science itself and He talks about the
team brought two hundred years of research experience collectively, almost
all directly relevant to climate studies, and came up with
some very very serious data driven conclusions and observations, and
how a lot of the mainstream is just ignoring it or.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Pooh pooing it.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
And he makes a really good case that it's very
strongly based on data and science. And he's kind of
making the indirect point that it's a a bit of
a religion among some people, and b it's just such
an incredibly good excuse to pour money in various directions
nobody wants to admit, but anyway. Among the report's key
(15:45):
findings elevated carbon dioxide levels, enhanced plant growth contributing to
global greening, and increased agricultural productivity.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, complex climate, I'm sorry. Complex climate models provide limited guy,
and some the climate's response to rising carbon dioxide levels.
Overly sensitive models, often using extreme scenarios, have exaggerated future
warming projections and consequences. UH data aggregated over the continental
US shows no significant long term trends in more extreme
(16:19):
weather events, so claims of more frequent or intense hurricanes tornadoes,
floods and dryness in America.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Are not supported by historical records.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
You know what this reminds me of, Only it's a
much bigger deal and probably gonna be a little slower,
is the whole trans thing. So the trans thing became
such a religion there for a couple of years, and
you couldn't say anything that wasn't on board one hundred
percent with you know, the bathrooms and the boys and
girls sports and everything like that, or you'd be ruined.
(16:49):
And then it fell apart pretty quickly. Yeah, is that
going to happen slightly slower? But with climate change?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Now? Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Don't you feel like, oh much money involve don't you
feel like there's a yeah, that's the big difference. There
weren't billions of dollars to be made around the trans issue.
There are trillions of dollars to be made around the
already have been made around the climate change issue. But
I don't you feel like that same sort of thing
is happening though, where it's just kind of crumbling and
it's like that whatever that phenomenon is, phenomenon is we've
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been talking about lady lately, where everybody's looking around saying, oh, okay,
more people think this than I thought, or I can
say out loud, I don't think climate change.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Is a big deal. Yeah, yeah, you know it's funny.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I meant to mention this Friday that Malcolm Gladwell, the
famous author.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, that's a good one. What time is it? Maybe
let's not rush it.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
That delivers a short shrift, full shrift that one delivers
deserves full shrift.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
But speaking of the trans thing, which is, you know,
mostly an effort by neo Marxist to get you to
bend the knee and say whatever they tell you to say,
including something as ridiculous as a man can become a
woman just by saying I'm a woman. Now, gladwell Is
actually came out and he said, no, that's ridiculous, but
I was afraid to say so.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
So yeah, the full story in that is pretty interesting
and it's troubling, and you wonder how many people are
in that situation.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That's on the way. A bunch of other stuff too.
Hope you can stay here, armstrong and getty.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
I'm pleased to announce this morning that the Department of
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Speaker 3 (18:31):
Donald Trump this morning at the Museum of the Bible,
making a couple of announcements. By the way, coming up
in a little bit. I want to talk about it.
I went to an Eagle Scout ceremony yesterday for boy Scouts.
I want to talk about boy Scouts really really cool.
But Donald Trump went on to say, among things in
his speech which will lead Joe into his Malcolm Gladwell story,
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I made the official policy of the United States government
that there are only two genders, Trump said today, saying
that men and women's sports is an eighty twenty issue.
It's a ninety seven to three issue, just sam here.
Despite that, the fact that it's probably about a ninety
ten issue, people were so convinced that it was a
(19:13):
grenade you were stepping on if you said anything about it,
people got their mouths shut for a long time, including
Malcolm Gladwell apparently.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, yeah, and it's worth observing that the.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Keeping dudes out of girls sports thing is still illegal
in some blue states, including the most populous state in
the Union where she used it, and still just have
to announce you're a girl and you can play girls'
sports and beat the hell out of the girls, and
with the smile and nod and approval of the left.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
It's craziness. Anyway, It's worth pointing.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Out that through the years, I mean, Malcolm Gladwell, he's
written a bunch of like super popular bestsellers, but so
much I really liked.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, yeah, and yeah yeah. He pissed me off so much.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I saw him participate in a debate and he like
inappropriately played the race card and the cancel culture card
in a couple of spots against Matt Tayebe and Douglas
Murray in ways that were just baffling and unfair.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, and I kind of soured on Gladwell. But as
I was starting to say, I.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Mean, he's been called one of the world's most one
hundred most influential people by Time back when that mattered.
Foreign Policy Magazine ranked him in its top one hundred
global thinkers. Newsweek chose him for the Top ten New
Thought Leaders of the decade a number of years ago.
Tipping point huge bestseller, he has seven New York Times bestsellers,
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twenty three million copies sold. His speaking fees are between
two and three hundred thousand dollars to come and do
a speech and as rich, I'm sorry. As Jim Gaherty
of the The National Review pointed out, you'd have to
look hard to find a guy with a better, higher
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or more stable perch in the American cultural elite than Gladwell.
And even this guy was afraid to say what he
really thought for fear of getting canceled, which is a
good point. So, you know, pity the poor employee at
some you know, West Coast, you know, corporation that's told
you have to believe this and say this or we're
(21:27):
gonna wound out here.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
But anyway, what we're talking about is if you're a
teacher at a school, we're right.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Oh my god, what a great example, because there's so
many great teachers of reasonable conscience who just have to
choke down their disgust with what they're being told to
teach and believe. But anyway, so Gladwell did this podcast,
the Real Science of Sport podcast, which is interesting but
(21:52):
I won't go off on a tangent to that, but
he and the moderator of the podcast had been on
a panel together. Malcolm was the moderator and Ross Tucker's
the other guy. Ross was on the panel as being
against guys playing in girls sports, And I'll just pick
up where Gladwell starts talking. Yeah, they stacked the panel.
(22:13):
They stacked against your ross. They put a trans athlete
and a trans advocate and you on the panel. And
I was the moderator. And it was one of those
strange situations where my suspicion is that ninety percent of
the people in the audience were on your side, but
five percent of the audience was willing to admit it.
I've become fascinated with this concept of a preference falsification lately,
(22:36):
where forceful advocates for a minority position are so adamant
and bullying that everybody sits there silently, then looks around
themselves and says, well, I guess nobody else disagrees. I'm
in a very small minority because everybody's being quiet. But
as Gladwell now says, he thought ninety percent of the
(22:58):
audience was with but only five percent were willing to
admit it.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Let's see. Tucker says.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
My recollection of it is that everything I said was
met with deathly silence, and everything the other two said
got cheered.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Sure, and Gladwell says, well, the cheers.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I mean, I think there was a hardcore of people
who are ideologically committed to the position, but the idea
that I mean, there's many interesting things to say about
that conversation. One was that it was a particular moment
which has passed. We did a replay of that exact
panel at the Sloan Conference in March and it ran
in exactly the opposite direction.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Wow, I the bloom is off the Rose thing on
that topic.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, and then Gladwell says, and I think this is notable.
I just think it was strange. I mean I felt,
I mean, the reason I'm ashamed of my performance.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You should be ashamed.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
You should be actually ashamed.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yes, yes, yes, whenever you're being a coward in the
face of bullies who are pushing a perverse and ugly
ideology and you don't stand up, Yeah, you should be ashamed.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Especially I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
When you feel like you can't you realize I.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Get that, Especially when you're ungodly wealthy and the only
thing you're risking is the opinion of some nutjobs who
you think you're gonna run into it a party. I mean,
that is some weak tea right there.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Yeah, glad Well especially out to be monumentally ashamed. But
here's what he says. The reason I'm ashamed of my
performance on that panel is because I share your position
one hundred percent, and I was cowed the idea of
saying anything on this issue. I was in. I believe
in retrospect in a dishonest way.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I was. I was objective in a dishonest way.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Well, a lot of the real howlers pass without comment
because I didn't. And I said you in an email
of a uh, it's a oh, and I he's talking
about Riley Gains. They were trans athletes there. They were
the transathlete down the panel. Un At one point they
turned to you, Ross and they said, Ross, you have
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to let us win. And it was at that moment
I realized this position is gone to the furthest extreme.
What the trans movement is not asking for. They're not
asking for, you know, a place at the table. They're
not asking to be treated with respect and dignity. What
they're asking for is that no one questioned the considerable
physical physiological advantage they bring to the sport, and no
one can question if they're going to win these races
(25:26):
by five seconds suck it up. That's what they were asking, right,
So there's no point in beating up on Malcolm Gladwell, uh, really, can.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
We come on? It's good cardiovascular exercise.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
So you let people like Riley Gaines put their physical
safety at risk by speaking what they believed or JK
Rowlings sticking her neck out. You agreed with them, but
you're too big a freaking coward, and you want to
be able to go to cool New York parties without
anybody giving you the side eye that you kept your
(26:01):
mouth shut. I mean, that's so freaking weak. I'd be
ashamed to walk in public if I were that person. Yeah,
well you should be a shame to be in public.
I mean, seriously, that is so damn wek. You're ungodly rich,
you're as successful as you can get. You've got nothing
to lose, zero to lose by saying the truth. And
(26:21):
you still were too big a coward because well I
want to be the cool guy at the party. God,
that's so weak. But I don't want to talk about
that because there's no point. What The interesting part that
we should all take to heart is that even at
that level, people are willing to go along with the
crowd if it's just easier. Yeah, even at that level.
(26:44):
So if even if that level people are willing to
go that, we have to we have to factor that
into every phenomenon that comes ever again in our lives,
whether it's climate change, of trans or anything.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, the vast majority of people are are sheep, whether
by temperament or lack of courage, or as you often
point out, you're some young teacher or employee or whatever.
You got a couple of kids, you got mouths to feed.
Are you going to torch your career in some progressive
(27:19):
city or state to make that brave stand If you
decide not to, I get it, because choking back your
anger and your disgust to continue to come through for
your family.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I have a great deal of sympathy for that.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
You know, we're in a different position, certainly in our
lives and by dint of what we do for a living.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
But somebody who does not have those fears and.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Knows that something ugly and wrong and reprehensible is being
spouted by these people and the damage it does to children.
Oh in the rest God, yes, and just sitting by
because you don't want any trouble.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I'm sorry, try to do better. Oh it's so weak.
And to sit there on a stage and watch somebody
who's taking your position, your secret position, and watching them
get the hell beat out of them by the crowd
and not speaking up. Good, that's weak.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah. How much credit do you get now for saying yeah,
I'm ashamed? Very very little?
Speaker 4 (28:19):
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Speaker 3 (29:52):
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tuberculosis than any other disease in the world.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I had no idea that I didn't either thought it
was still malaria or something.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So it seems like I could be a good idea
to try to keep that out of the United States.
It's been making a comeback various places. About one point
two five million lives worldwide every year, according to the
World Health Organization, Largely developing countries but making a comeback
in the United States. Some people believe because of our
vaccination nuttiness, we got it going on some places.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Well, and you let in millions of people who might
have tuberculosis without even asking them.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, that part of it, that part of it should
get more attention that we let in. That's where it
came from.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Well, yeah, but the left likes to make it all
about RFK junior and anti vax stances and not Well,
I did so because I got whooping coffin was the
sickest I've ever been outside of cancer in my life.
Well I didn't. Nobody needed a vaccination or an update
on their vaccination and gets whooping cough before you let
(30:59):
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Speaker 2 (31:02):
In world history.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Right, So you might want to add that to your
part of the story. Anyway, I don't want to get
off track on that. I want to talk about the
eagle scout thing that I saw yesterday, which was really
really cool, and how it actually made me hopeful for
American I'm relatively unhopeful for all things positive, but this
was good news.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Stay here.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Armstrong of other celebrities are weighing in with advice. Let's
tell us look, I mean, Chris Christie said, never go
to bed angry. That's such good advice. Just Laine Maxwell said,
make sure you both want children. Mcdonna said, don't be
(31:45):
afraid to bring new things into the bedroom, for example,
a Puerto Rican backup. Dan said, and Julia and Julie said,
if you're looking to adopt a kid, I got a guy.
Kanye said, naked wife, happy life. Arnold Schwarzenegger said, hire
(32:08):
a really ugly cleaning life.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
That's not nice.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
So had several Scouting events yesterday, actually three different events
throughout the day for my son, who is in Boy
Scouts and joined Guess in the spring and has really
taken to it and loving it.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
And I've talked a lot about it.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And one of the big Scout leaders yesterday told me
I appreciated hearing good things about Scouts on the radio
because Scouts, like a lot of things, tend to only
get mentioned when something bad happens.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Now when all the good stuff happens.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
But I have been so impressed with the whole Boy
Scout thing since my son joined.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
But I hadn't been to an Eagle Scout ceremony.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
So one of the kids in his troop made Eagle Scout,
and so they did the big presentation thing that they do,
and everybody goes in the whole troop and parents show
up and everything like that. It was at a church,
which is another thing I didn't know as much about
Scouts as that that that that God has invoked so much. God, family,
country sort of thing. And it's it's very military like.
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I mean, they got the they got the whole flag ceremony.
I mean, people march out and put flags and you
get your salute and all that sort of stuff. It's
it's like cops, firefighters and military stuff you've been to
probably in your life. And a very fairly solemn affair
with various leaders talking about this kid and all the
(33:35):
stuff that he did throughout the years, and I mean,
it was it made me emotional. It was just so
cool to see these kids take this so seriously and
and all the things that they did to get to
the level of Eagle Scout, which you don't know is
the highest thing you can accomplish in Scouting, and the
parents going up there and talking and all the different
(33:56):
sorts of things. But the thing about Scouting that I
didn't understand is how it's so much about learning leadership qualities.
I know all about the canoeing and hiking and all
the first aid and you know what to do if
you get bit by a snake and all that sort
of stuff you learn in scouting, but all the leadership stuff,
it's all and once you get past a certain age,
it's almost entirely about going through these different camps and
(34:20):
seminars to learn leadership skills and taking over small patrols
and bigger patrols and bigger patrols, and running meetings and
everything like that.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
The whole thing is kid run.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
The adult leaders just stand to the side in case
something really falls apart, which it rarely does. You just
you grow throughout the thing and take over, and then
you delegate authority. They were talking about how he had
had to be out of town for something and a
delegated authority to some people beneath him, and how smoothly
it went and everything just fantastic.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
And these kids.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Now, this kid is seventeen or eighteen, so he's practically
an adult now. But I know plenty of people that
have come into the work place as twenty three year
olds with a college degree and weren't a tenth of
this mature as a lot of these scouts I've been seeing.
It's so damned impressive. And it's because they're given responsibility,
and like human beings do, they rise to the challenge.
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And it's just I couldn't love it more.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Yeah, Yeah, I love hearing that too. I remember being
at one of those ceremonies years and years ago. You know,
it's and we'll talk more about this another time, but
I was just reading how and this was at time
dot com, which is generally a little progressive, used to
be magazine. A magazine, used to be a website that
people printed for some reason. Kids anyway, But it's this
(35:39):
town where a bunch of moms have gotten together and
embraced the whole free range kid thing, and and it's
you know, there's a revealing quote in it. This Gal
said essentially that she had never made the connection between
(36:00):
I wish I could find it real quickly, her kids
having responsibility.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
And their own confidence. There it is.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
I'd never made the connection that independence leads to resilience
and confidence. But now she has her kids make their
own school, don't She has ride their bikes to school
and the play dates, take care of their siblings.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
She'll soon she'll let her eight year old go to
the store alone.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Yeah, people, especially children, tend to rise to your expectations
of them, have high expectations.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, that's exactly what this whole scouting thing has proven
to me and what I'm watching and like, if they're
having trouble figuring out how to do whatever for a camp,
set up the tents or whatever. The adults don't jump
in and helicopter and help the airs what you need
to do. They got to figure it out on their own.
And one of the Scout leaders was telling me about
(36:51):
this long hike that they all went on with a burrow,
the older kids a couple of weeks back, and how
he could just see them grow, how they walked taller afterwards,
having accomplished all the things they accomplished.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
It's just it's freaking awesome. That is amazing.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
How we ever, came to the conclusion that doing everything
for children from age zero to twenty five was.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Gonna make it better for them, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, the worship of safety and comfort. Where did that
come from? Well, the left, But yeah, it's unhealthy. Don't
do it.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
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