September 11, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour four of A&G features...
- The odd, troubling cheers heard in response to Charlie Kirk's murder...
- Utah Gov. Spencer Cox responds to the shooting...
- Trey Gowdy on why watching the video is important...
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong Show, Getty arm Strong and
Getty and He Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Five o'clock Eastern, Janet Goat, go to have somebody look
at the Fox. Trump just posted that Charlie Kirk is dead.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So that's Harvey Levin of TMZ. If you ever watch
that TV show, he's the guy who runs TMZ and
then he's there in the newsroom and all the reporters
are behind him. I used to watch it every day
for some reason. That was the live stream that was
going on. And yeah, and that's what the TV show
is basic. Sure, But the claim is that those people
were cheering that Charlie Kirk had been shot.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
They saw the news just before Levin did. Then he
went to air with it and there cheering and laughing
because of the death of Charlie Kirk. But Harvey Levin
is swearing up and down. The timing was horrific. A
bunch of staffers were watching a high speed chase through
LA and they were reacting what had happened. He said
(01:30):
that absolutely was not about Charlie Kirk. And if it was,
those people would not work for me anymore. I've got
to take him at his word. Yeah, yeah, I would too.
He's supposed to be a pretty decent guy.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
You know. He and our old boss Ken Cole were
good friends, like really really good friends.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
If I knew that, I'd forgotten.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah. Anyway, that's a side that means nothing to anyone. Well,
I had another point to make.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Oh, but we did hear there was some cheering at
a local school. Yeah, yeah, we got an email from
a listener. Their kid goes to a Roseville, California high school,
which is just a suburb of Sacramento, and just I
don't know, I say just it's one hundred thousand plus people.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
But when the news was announced.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
There was laughing and cheering among a fair number of
the kids.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
How would you come in and had been slaughtered in
cold blood?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
How would you come to that worldview where you cheer
because your parents talk about the other side of politics
like they're evil or your teachers or your teachers, right.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Maybe in a near constant drumbeat in America's government schools.
I don't know that that's the case at whatever school
that was, but I'm suspicious.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So we've got to update you on a couple of
things that have happened that are pretty dramatic today. First
of all, you want to do the bullets story.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, law enforcement source.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
And then a memo that's come to our eyes states
that the unused bullets in the magazine, in the rifle
was used to murder mister Kirk. Each one of them
had a word suggesting Antifa and transgender activism inscribed on it.
(03:12):
That is an angle that The New York Times has
yet to pick up an hour plus after The Wall
Street Journal has described it with sources, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's, oh boy, they don't want to step into that.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
They're going to be dragged into it. But no, the
mainstream media is going to absolutely resist, as they always
do anything that.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Hurts their narrative or reinforces a conservative narrative anyway. So
that's probably true. But that's a big story. And then
were you going to talk about the picture?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Here?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
The pictures are out. The FBI released image the first
images of the person of interest in Charlie kirk dissassination,
the guy the He looks like a college kid, young
white male that they believe to be the shooter. So
he then they got a picture of him.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And though he is in a ball cap in sunglasses,
you can clearly see the shape of his face and
his build. Oh yeah, if I knew him body language,
you'd know him.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, if I knew him, I'd say, holy crap, I
think that's yeah right, So he will be found. He
ditched the gun in the woods. The gun was a
single shot bolt action rifle often used for sniper type shots.
AOC said this morning, with the microphone in our face,
are we going to do something? Are we going to
(04:38):
argue over rhetoric? We have to pass gun safety legislation
and stop this. People can fingerpoint all they want. Obviously,
there is no gun law that exists in America that
stops you from order from owning a single shot bolt
action rifle, even in the strictest of places. So you'd
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have to just eliminate guns. You wanted to do that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Very quickly. And this doesn't deserve a lot of time.
But various voices and people are claiming that because it
was maybe as far as two hundred yards away, that
obviously it was a trained zaba zabaz ava.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
No, I've hit targets the size of a dessert plate
from two hundred yards.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I've got some firearms training, but I'm not a you know,
marine sniper.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
It's not an easy shot.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
But if somebody's sitting still and you have time to
brace your weapon.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, imagine the kind of person. Imagine doing it when
you got a human being on the other I mean,
you were talking earlier about how difficult it is to
get soldiers in war to fire on the enemy who's
trying to kill you. You're a certain sort of person
that can pull the trigger on that, and.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Cariss is completely convinced that they're right.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I'm not dismissing what you said at all, but shooting,
you know, an object for practice a litly different thing
than getting a human being in your sights, knowing what
your life is about to become. As soon as you
pull that trigger, correct and calmly pulling that off, you're
a certain God dang it, what are you? You're a
sociopath or you'd almost have to be a sociopath. Yeah,
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a psychopath to calm your nerves enough to pull off
that shot. The interesting thing about radical political organizations and
beliefs is that they turn people into the equivalent of
a psychopath. If you can dehumanize your enemy to the
point that you can shoot them in the throat for talking,
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do you have become functionally a psychopath? And that's you know,
I've never put it in that way precisely, but that
is one of the things that I wish people understood
better about these radical leftist political organizations.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
And certainly they exist on the right as well.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
They work hard from the time our kids are little
to convince them that their opponents are sub humans that
deserve no human compassion, and that's incredibly dangerous.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I keep going back and forth with whether or not
I think what this guy believes is a big deal
or not. I think ultimately it's not, but.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I think it is.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Political violence is growing. We've got to change our rhetoric.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's funny I simultaneously agree and disagree with you. I
agree with what you said. But there are political movements,
easily identifiable and proud of themselves in this country that
preach that violence is justified, and they are to a
large extent reinforced in places like college campuses. And we've
got to be aware of that and deal with it
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honestly and not like the New York Times they will
drag their feet until the nth hour to not admit
if indeed it's true that this guy with some sort
of Antifa pro radical transgenderst.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, and certainly if he's like an actual member of
Antifa and they had just had had discussions like it's
you know, the work of an assassin for a group,
that would be a big deal.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Right indeed.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, So listen, take a deep breath, everybody. We're gonna
next segment bring you the incredibly eloquent and powerful words
of Governor Cox of Utah.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Jack.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
We can talk about whether her to just play the
whole damn thing, but this is apropos of very little.
It is a lighter moment. I was watching the live
coverage on Fox News after the shooting, prior to the
announcement that mister Kirk had died, and for the record,
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I believe he was in God's hands within ninety seconds.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Oh shot.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
They just didn't announce it or pronounce him at the
hospital because they tried heroically to save him. But she
broke into an FBI guy talking about security and that
sort of thing to say, we have a couple of
students on campus. They maybe eyewitnesses let's talk to them.
It's clip thirty five, Michael, listen to this.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Well, from what I'm hearing, if if it's true, the
guy who got shot, he was a pretty big influence
in whatever was going, like the their agenda, right, So
if I don't know, I hope, I hope it all
like gets figured out. And I really don't I really
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don't want this to happen again.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Want.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I just I
from what I heard it was it was a sniper
from from a long ways away. So I don't know.
I think the focus of this should probably be on
probably some sort of some sort of gun control or
something like that so that things like this can't happen again.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Thank you guys so much for doing a Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
So if you two are having sex, please wear a
condom and do not reproduce.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Oh oh my lord, wow. Oh. If you have ever.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Felt like they're just letting anyone into college, today is
your day. Well that's something.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
If you have a job position that one of the
requirements is a college degree, perhaps rethink that.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Who had that fox?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, what I would like to know is how quickly
was the person back in the producer back in the
engineer with you got to get these people up the air.
This is get rid of them. What are we doing?
That is embarrassing? I know, it was just astonished to
obviously in the moment with the tragedy, you're wanting information,
you quickly realized you're not getting any from these dunderpates.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
All right, go ahead and cut them off. You're not
gonna hurt their feelings. Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yeah, that was something, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
She had an IQ of eight, he might have been twelve.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
That poor girl. How is she gonna make her way
in the world?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Is she pretty? Oh?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
She got something going for m wow. Okay, so we
get a deep breath. All right, we all needed the
deep breath. The fabulous and the eloquent Spencer Cox, the
Governor of Utah, coming up next day with us.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
A lot of voices yesterday that I heard in all
the newscasts. I heard the Governor of Utah everywhere everywhere.
Governor Spencer Cox, incredibly eloquent. He stepped to the microphone
and this is what he said.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
This is a dark day for our state. It's a
tragic day for our nation.
Speaker 9 (12:02):
And I want to be very clear that this is
a political assassination.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
We are celebrating two hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
Of the founding of this great nation, that founding document,
the Declaration of Independence, That this great experiment on which
we embark together two hundred and fifty years ago, that
we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
The first one of those.
Speaker 9 (12:34):
Is life, and today a life was taken. Charlie Kirk
was first and foremost a husband and a dad to
two young children.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
He was also.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
Very much politically involved, and that's why he was here
on campus. Charlie believed in the power of free speech
and debate to shape ideas and to persuade people. Historically,
our university campuses in this nation and here in the
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state of Utah have been the place where truth and
ideas are formulated and debated. And that's what he does.
He comes on college campuses and he debates as foundational
to the formation of our country, to our most basic
constitutional rights. And when someone takes the life of a
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person because of their ideas or their ideals, then that
very constitutional foundation is threatened. We have a person of
interest in custody. The investigation is ongoing, but I want
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to make it crystal clear right now to whoever did this,
we will find you, we will try you, and we
will hold you accountable to the furthest extent of the law.
And I just want to remind people that we still
have the death penalty here in the state of Utah.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
Our nation is broken. We've had.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
Political assassinations recently in Minnesota. We had an attempted assassination
on a governor of Pennsylvania, and we had.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
An attempted assassination.
Speaker 9 (15:00):
I'm a presidential candidate and former president of the United
States and now current President of the United States. Nothing
I say can unitus as a country. Nothing I can
say right now can fix what is broken. Nothing I
can say can bring back Charlie Kirk. Our hearts are broken.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
We mourn.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
With his wife, his children, his family, his friends. We
mourn as a nation. If anyone, in the sound of
my voice celebrated even a little bit at the news
of this shooting, I would beg you to look in
the mirror and to see if you can find a
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better angel in there somewhere. I don't care what his
politics are. I care that he was an American.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
You know that seems like a good place Michael Spencer Costs,
Governor of Utah.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, I was really good on obviously very short notice,
because that was at the point where they still believed
they had a person of interest. That was good stuff. Yeah,
I'd agree with that. If you find yourself cheering the
assassination of a political opponent, man, you got to check yourself.
(16:25):
There's something wrong with you. I don't care who they are.
You can't pick anybody on the left. I don't want
to name names because it's kind of but I mean,
there's some abhorrent characters on the left. To me, I
would not be happy to hear they were assassinated at
an event. That is not good.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
No, it's horrifying.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
So The New York Times, just to be thorough, has
updated and is now covering the fact that federal and
local officials say the ammunition appeared to be engraved with
statements quote expressing transgender and anti fascist ideology. But then
they hit us with a paragraph senior law Enforcement the
caution the report has not been verified by analysts, and
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in fast moving investigations, such status reports are not made
public because they often contained a mix.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Of accurate and inaccurate information.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
That is true they went to a lot of trouble
to point it out.
Speaker 10 (17:18):
Armstrong and Getty, this needs to be a time to
bring the country together, regardless of what happens, and I
can tell you there's going to be very few platforms
who do that. There's been in the last hour some
disgusting coverage on MSNBC. I overused that word, but this
is truly disgusting. Charlie's shooting will be politicized because that's
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what happens that. I'm not against politicization the way some
people are, but I'm against vilization that needlessly divides the country.
Charlie said things in his career. He said things that
were inflammatory, and we'll see the wholest. But he's involved
in national life because he cares about the picture of
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the country, and he's a He is a brilliant guy
and in his thirties has already become an historical figure.
And if he doesn't make it, I'm hoping that people
use the opportunity to bring the country together.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
So as Mark Alpern yesterday live YouTube cast when he
heard the news that his good friend Charlie Kirk had
been shot, they had been together the day before, and
he said that stuff about MSNBC's coverage being disgusting. Later
in the afternoon, I saw his episode where somebody else
said that, and he said, let's let's not go there,
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because he's he's really anti what would you call it,
attacking each other like that. It just his platform. He
boots people out of the chat who post stuff like that.
He just he doesn't want any of that kind of conversation.
And he said, he said, I'm going to give him
the benefit of the doubt. Now, Matthew Dowd got fired
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by MSNBC a couple hours later for things he said,
but Mark Alpert said, I'm going to give him the
benefit of the doubt. It happened alive. They saw a
man shot to death on television. They're having to do
live TV. They just reflexively went into MSNBC mode. They
didn't know what else to do. I'm going to give
him a break for that. So it's very generous. Yeah,
that is very generous.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
More generous than I would be.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I would agree. So, speaking of a gring or not agreeing,
do you agree what Trey Goudy says about the video.
The video was out fast of you know, seeing a
guy get shot in the neck and bleed out that
video was out there. My kid and Hanson's kid both
saw the video at school before we even picked him
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up from school, which I find horrifying. It's kind of
a different topic, but for adults, this is what Trey
Goudy had to say.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
As painful as it is, people have to watch the
video from yesterday, and while they're watching it, and they're
going to want to turn their heads away. But you
need to imagine this as a husband and a father
and a friend, not someone politically that you may happen
to disagree with. This video is so jarring to watch.
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The problem is it really happened, and it happened in
the greatest country in the world, and so we got
to have a conversation about how much of this we're
willing to put up with. So watch what happened to him.
He is killed in an instant, in an instant, from
two hundred yards for what reason, because you happen to
disagree with his political beliefs. Make yourself watch it and
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realize this is a husband and a father, not just
some political person with whom you may happen to disagree.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So is he arguing for showing it on television because
most networks didn't show it off if anybody showed it
on TV? Did anybody show it on TV?
Speaker 7 (21:03):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
It was bouncing around online.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
No, I understand his point, and I agree with him partially. Yeah,
it varies completely person to person.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I don't agree. I just I haven't seen it. I
don't think I need to see it to fully understand
how freaking awful it is that a dad of two
little kids got.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Shot to death, Right, I would agree with you.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
At the same time, I'll tell you why I did
watch it, the same reason I forced myself to read
and watch an entire presentation I saw on what a
rifle round does to a human body because I wanted
to know.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
It is very easy.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
And again this various personal person I don't judge anybody
for the decision they made. It is very, very easy
in the modern world, with our modern entertainment to hear
somebody got shot and picture what you see on TV
in some cop drama and not grasp the full horror
of how violent and deadly it is. And to me,
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there's a usefulness. And again, not everybody feels this, and
that's great, that's fine. There's a usefulness to be brought
nearly to the edge of vomiting by how horrifying in
real life it is.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
That's why I watched it.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
That could be. I feel like there's a lot of
the opposite. People who do watch that sort of stuff
who are completely unmoved by it, and people who don't
watch it who are completely moved by it because they
get what happened.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
And a completely different discussion from children watching it.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Oh, no doubt, by the way, and my kids were
at well, my oldest he doesn't talk to me. He's
high school.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I can't drag words. Oh why would he? You don't
know anything. But my thirteen year old was worried. He said,
is that going to happen to you? Because he knows
I've joked about this a lot, maybe too much, about
how many people hate me, or like when we run
into somebody somewhere, like, you know, I don't know if
I'm gonna get a positive reaction or negative rect They've
seen people hate me, they've seen me flipped off by
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people who hate me.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
So my son was worried, is this gonna happen to you?
And I said, no, it's very unlikely. This sort of
thing happens that it very very rarely happens. You know,
I didn't say what I was thinking of. Geez, I
hope this doesn't happen to me. It could. We've had
people angry enough at us that could do that sort
of thing.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
And as we've discussed, although I don't think this is
the case, but we've also discussed it's the person that
doesn't make any sense what's so right? Right that most
often is you know, dangerous.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Or maybe misheard you, or thinks you're somebody at are
their toasters talking to them?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Freaking crazy?
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I was gonna wonder this. So the pictures are out.
FBI's released photos asking for help. So if you know
that you know college kid in Utah, and somebody's gonna say,
oh yeah, that sure looks like.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Jaden And the pictures are good enough that you if
you knew him, you would recognize him. Well, when I'm
wondering the hat and sunglasses, he had a plan. Clearly,
he knew Charlie Kirk was coming, He knew where Charlie
Kirk was gonna be, what direction he was gonna be facing,
what building he should.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Get up on top of? What gun he would need.
He did a lot of planning, and he had a
plan to get away. Often, most of the time these
people don't really have a plan to get away, or
not a good one anyway. Yeah, and they get caught.
Sometimes they want to be caught. Like the guy who
assassinated those two Jewish people in Washington, d C. He
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dropped his gun and said.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
It was me.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
It was me. I killed him because Palestine is a
you know, an undergoing a genocide. I mean, he wanted
to get his message out. So there's that kind of person. Also,
is this person gonna be found dead in the wounds
with a gunshot to his head? He's gonna take himself out?
Is he gonna turn himself in because he's a a
strong believer and he wants to say why he killed
Charlie Kirk? Is he gonna Does he think he can't
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possibly think he's gonna get away?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Is he gonna try to take some cops with him?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Man, there's always that chance. I I hope not. He
can't possibly think. He can't possibly think he's gonna get away, though.
Do you think he's gonna get to Canada or Mexico
or something, or California?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
You know, it's not inconceivable.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I shouldn't say that because Gavin Knwsom condemned the violence
as strongly as anybody did yesterday. Right, also a friend
of Charlie Kirk. That's what That's one of the many
reasons this is so freaking horrible. This is the last
guy that should get shot. Nobody should for political reason,
But this is the last guy if you had to
make a list, and you shouldn't. But he, I mean,
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he wanted to have calm discourse about the topics.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Donald Trump Junior actually wrote a really eloquent tribute to him.
He said, Charlie was never a threat to anyone. He
was civil, he was kind, He listened and responded with respect.
The only threat he ever posed was that he was
incredibly effective. Yeah, he was a powerful messenger of truth
and people heard that truth.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
That's what made him a target.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
The people that seemed to get the angriest at him,
though it all seemed to come from the world of
the whole trans discussion.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
That was where the most heat was. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
He was also staunchly pro life, and the pro abortion
rights crowd really really disliked him. But the real anger
seemed to be from the radical transgender folks.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, I heard it portrayed on I shouldn't say which network,
which yould I don't remember one of your mainstream networks.
Charlie Kirk, who was strongly anti women's health. I thought, okay,
I know what that means.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Nice, nice characterization of his position.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Right there, that he was anti transgender people when he
was against anti radical transgender theory and the mutilation of.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Children anyway, So it wouldn't be shocking if it turns
out that that was the ish that drove this psychopathic, nutcase,
evil person that I hope gets arrested very soon. And
as the governor pointed out, we have the death penalty
here in Utah.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah, well, we'll find out, we pray soon who this
guy was and what he was thinking, and we'll bring
it to you. And if it turns out that the
direction we've been led by the evidence so far is
completely wrong, we'll tell you. So I have no need
to get to a particular conclusion. I like to base
my conclusions on facts and not vice versa. Perhaps you
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could try that in the media someday, the other media.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I thought that when the Wall Street Journal broke the
story a couple hours ago that there were some trans
messages and TIFA messages on the ammunition found in the rifle.
I thought that would explode as a story, and it
has not even really on Fox. So is everybody thinking, WHOA,
this is hot? We better wait until we're very, very
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sure it's possible, because doesn't this seem like the sort
of thing that becomes a panel discussion on every cable
news show.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah, yeah, one way or the others. Yeah, I'm everybody
has mentioned that report at this point. I thought it
would be not everybody, I'm sorry. A number of places,
including the New York Times.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Go really really big. Anyway, we will finish strong next
rare that something so big happens that we do an
entire four hour show about it. That's usually around usually
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around a tragedy, unfortunately. But then these remaining moments, a
couple things I want to mention. While I'm mentioning something, Michael,
we got three jokes from the Late Night comment Those
are the shows that taped before the shooting, correct, So
they're just doing a regular show. Whichever one of those
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you think is the funniest, But hold on to that.
I just came across this. This can't be true. I
should click on the story and actually read it. This
is from the New York Post. Plans for a mega
lux resort spark fury as bulldozers invade the site where
Moses received the Ten Commandments? Whoa are they actually bulldozing
(29:32):
rocks where Moses got the tablets? For a hotel?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Golden Calf Accommodations announces the opening of our new resort.
Yeah wow, wow, can we like maybe have it as
a preserve of some sort?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Can I stay in the Pharaoh's room? How much does
that cost? Okay, so there's that. Maybe I'll look into
that for tomorrow. What's your best joke? You got, Michael?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Then, Lewin ice Cream has unveiled a new sunscreen flavored
ice cream. That was ice cream? Yelled this guy?
Speaker 8 (30:15):
What happened to you?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Steve?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
With ice cream smelled like copper tone.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Put it all over my.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Body, covered in seagulls all day.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Beach.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Jesus, Sorry, Steve, So I missed the beginning of that somehow.
What what sun screen flavored ice cream? Okay, that's what
I thought? It was sunstream and smeared it all over
his body. You see what sunscreen flavored mean.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I don't know. I've never pat it.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Right, You're not supposed to know the flavor of a topical.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Tree to put it in your mouth. Oh, this is novel.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
It's ice cream tastes like a topical treatment to avoid
radiation burns.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Let me put it in my mouth. I mean what?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Let me put it next to my apple pie.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I guess it's so you can tell a story.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Exhausting show.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Today, the left wing social network blue Sky has announced that,
after many, many dozens of posts celebrating the grisly murder
of the young Charlie Kirk, that celebrating the assassination violated
its rules and you need to stop.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
So that's an example of what Elon called the other
day the woke mind virus. If you celebrate the death
of a political opponent, and I don't care what your
politics are, I would feel the same way about a
buddy of mine who's a Trump supporter, if he found
out Joy Reid got gun down in the street and
celebrated it. There's something wrong with you. You have a political
virus of some sort. Yeah, here's a Muslim activist called
(31:52):
Charlie a horrible hateful man. I refuse to sanitize him.
He didn't hate anybody. But even if he did. You see,
that's the deal. You can't have it. You can't have
you can't have political violence. Yeah, how do you see
it playing out? If you start murdering your political opponents?
How do you think that's going to play out to
(32:14):
a good end? Lay that out for me.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, these people are just consumed by their anger and
their hate, and in many cases they're jealousy, and they
don't think rationally. They're just cauldrons of hate.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Ah, that is shocking to me. See here here, this
is very complicated. See if you if your starts killing
the other side, they'll think, hmm, I guess we should
start doing the same thing, and then we're all killing
each other. Yeah, it's happened many, many times throughout history.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
On a practical level, you don't want to get in
a shooting war with the right. That's not a threat,
that's just a statement of reasonable fact. Even if you
have no soul, you have no kindness, you have no
regard for humanity. On a practical level, it's a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, Well, tomorrow, I'm sure we'll be back to more
or less a regular show, although I have a feeling
I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have the guy
or his body the shooter by tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I certainly hope so.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Or a really good idea to know who he is.
They've got him, They've got to have already received dozens
of tips who say that sure looks like the guy
I have science class with, or my neighbor upstairs or whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Right, I'd be shocked if you're not right, because again,
the images are pretty good. You can easily see his
build and his body shape and the shape of his face.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
In a not particularly populated area of the country, so
it's not like he can disappear into a city of
twelve million people like La or something to walk the shot.
But I'm ready to list again. Here's your host for
(34:12):
final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
to wrap things up for the day. We think Katie's
coming back tomorrow. But Michael Angelo, why don't you lead
us off?
Speaker 11 (34:22):
This may never happen, but we need politics to be
boring again. Because of social media, everything's shocking, entertaining, over
the top, and now people just want to be entertained
or shocked.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
They don't want policy. I know it's boring, but it's
what we need. Yeah, agreed, jack. A final thought for us.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I know a lot of you were waiting for a
Prunes update no results, So today I will eat five
prunes as I have the Prunes day by day until
I get a result.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Damn, I lost a bet to me, good lord to me.
Half measures are no good.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Go ten o prove you're serious, satire intestinal system.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
I'm here to win.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I gotta throw in one more serious thing. I wasn't
going to. Hey, those of you news outlets who are
running clips of Charlie Kirk being pro Second Amendment and
how we use four gun ownership, who think you're being clever,
you're not.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Oh yeah, who think that's some sort of checkmate?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Right exactly? Who got him? He was four individuals being
able to own guns, yet he was shot. You're not
accomplishing anything, you morons. Yeah, we're not pro murder, you jackasses.
Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
So many people, thanks, so a little time. Go to
Armstrong and Giddy dot com. The hot links are there there.
We may have hot links today.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Drop us a no, what's your take? What's your suggestion?
What are you thinking? Mail bag at Armstrong and geddy
dot com. We'll go through them tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, and then, well there will be a lot to
talk about tomorrow. I'm sure we'll see then. God bless America.
This is a dark moment for America.
Speaker 8 (36:10):
It's a tragic day for our nation.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
And I'll be honest with you, I am an utter
disbelief at this.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
He's a martyr for truth and freedom.
Speaker 11 (36:18):
Charlie was a patriot who devoted his life to the
cause of open debate.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
If you could be associated with one thing, how would
you want to be remembered. I want to be remembered
for courage from my faith. That would be the most
important thing. The most important thing is my faith in
my life.
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong Show, Getty arm Strong and
Getty and He Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Five o'clock Eastern, Janet Goat, go to have somebody look
at the Fox. Trump just posted that Charlie Kirk is dead.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So that's Harvey Levin of TMZ. If you ever watch
that TV show, he's the guy who runs TMZ and
then he's there in the newsroom and all the reporters
are behind him. I used to watch it every day
for some reason. That was the live stream that was
going on. And yeah, and that's what the TV show
is basic. Sure, But the claim is that those people
were cheering that Charlie Kirk had been shot.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
They saw the news just before Levin did. Then he
went to air with it and there cheering and laughing
because of the death of Charlie Kirk. But Harvey Levin
is swearing up and down. The timing was horrific. A
bunch of staffers were watching a high speed chase through
LA and they were reacting what had happened. He said
(01:30):
that absolutely was not about Charlie Kirk. And if it was,
those people would not work for me anymore. I've got
to take him at his word. Yeah, yeah, I would too.
He's supposed to be a pretty decent guy.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
You know. He and our old boss Ken Cole were
good friends, like really really good friends.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
If I knew that, I'd forgotten.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah. Anyway, that's a side that means nothing to anyone. Well,
I had another point to make.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Oh, but we did hear there was some cheering at
a local school. Yeah, yeah, we got an email from
a listener. Their kid goes to a Roseville, California high school,
which is just a suburb of Sacramento, and just I
don't know, I say just it's one hundred thousand plus people.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
But when the news was announced.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
There was laughing and cheering among a fair number of
the kids.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
How would you come in and had been slaughtered in
cold blood?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
How would you come to that worldview where you cheer
because your parents talk about the other side of politics
like they're evil or your teachers or your teachers, right.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Maybe in a near constant drumbeat in America's government schools.
I don't know that that's the case at whatever school
that was, but I'm suspicious.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So we've got to update you on a couple of
things that have happened that are pretty dramatic today. First
of all, you want to do the bullets story.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, law enforcement source.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
And then a memo that's come to our eyes states
that the unused bullets in the magazine, in the rifle
was used to murder mister Kirk. Each one of them
had a word suggesting Antifa and transgender activism inscribed on it.
(03:12):
That is an angle that The New York Times has
yet to pick up an hour plus after The Wall
Street Journal has described it with sources, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's, oh boy, they don't want to step into that.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
They're going to be dragged into it. But no, the
mainstream media is going to absolutely resist, as they always
do anything that.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Hurts their narrative or reinforces a conservative narrative anyway. So
that's probably true. But that's a big story. And then
were you going to talk about the picture?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Here?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
The pictures are out. The FBI released image the first
images of the person of interest in Charlie kirk dissassination,
the guy the He looks like a college kid, young
white male that they believe to be the shooter. So
he then they got a picture of him.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And though he is in a ball cap in sunglasses,
you can clearly see the shape of his face and
his build. Oh yeah, if I knew him body language,
you'd know him.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, if I knew him, I'd say, holy crap, I
think that's yeah right, So he will be found. He
ditched the gun in the woods. The gun was a
single shot bolt action rifle often used for sniper type shots.
AOC said this morning, with the microphone in our face,
are we going to do something? Are we going to
(04:38):
argue over rhetoric? We have to pass gun safety legislation
and stop this. People can fingerpoint all they want. Obviously,
there is no gun law that exists in America that
stops you from order from owning a single shot bolt
action rifle, even in the strictest of places. So you'd
(04:58):
have to just eliminate guns. You wanted to do that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Very quickly. And this doesn't deserve a lot of time.
But various voices and people are claiming that because it
was maybe as far as two hundred yards away, that
obviously it was a trained zaba zabaz ava.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
No, I've hit targets the size of a dessert plate
from two hundred yards.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I've got some firearms training, but I'm not a you know,
marine sniper.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
It's not an easy shot.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
But if somebody's sitting still and you have time to
brace your weapon.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, imagine the kind of person. Imagine doing it when
you got a human being on the other I mean,
you were talking earlier about how difficult it is to
get soldiers in war to fire on the enemy who's
trying to kill you. You're a certain sort of person
that can pull the trigger on that, and.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Cariss is completely convinced that they're right.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I'm not dismissing what you said at all, but shooting,
you know, an object for practice a litly different thing
than getting a human being in your sights, knowing what
your life is about to become. As soon as you
pull that trigger, correct and calmly pulling that off, you're
a certain God dang it, what are you? You're a
sociopath or you'd almost have to be a sociopath. Yeah,
(06:13):
a psychopath to calm your nerves enough to pull off
that shot. The interesting thing about radical political organizations and
beliefs is that they turn people into the equivalent of
a psychopath. If you can dehumanize your enemy to the
point that you can shoot them in the throat for talking,
(06:34):
do you have become functionally a psychopath? And that's you know,
I've never put it in that way precisely, but that
is one of the things that I wish people understood
better about these radical leftist political organizations.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
And certainly they exist on the right as well.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
They work hard from the time our kids are little
to convince them that their opponents are sub humans that
deserve no human compassion, and that's incredibly dangerous.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I keep going back and forth with whether or not
I think what this guy believes is a big deal
or not. I think ultimately it's not, but.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I think it is.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Political violence is growing. We've got to change our rhetoric.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's funny I simultaneously agree and disagree with you. I
agree with what you said. But there are political movements,
easily identifiable and proud of themselves in this country that
preach that violence is justified, and they are to a
large extent reinforced in places like college campuses. And we've
got to be aware of that and deal with it
(07:45):
honestly and not like the New York Times they will
drag their feet until the nth hour to not admit
if indeed it's true that this guy with some sort
of Antifa pro radical transgenderst.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, and certainly if he's like an actual member of
Antifa and they had just had had discussions like it's
you know, the work of an assassin for a group,
that would be a big deal.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Right indeed.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, So listen, take a deep breath, everybody. We're gonna
next segment bring you the incredibly eloquent and powerful words
of Governor Cox of Utah.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Jack.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
We can talk about whether her to just play the
whole damn thing, but this is apropos of very little.
It is a lighter moment. I was watching the live
coverage on Fox News after the shooting, prior to the
announcement that mister Kirk had died, and for the record,
(08:43):
I believe he was in God's hands within ninety seconds.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Oh shot.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
They just didn't announce it or pronounce him at the
hospital because they tried heroically to save him. But she
broke into an FBI guy talking about security and that
sort of thing to say, we have a couple of
students on campus. They maybe eyewitnesses let's talk to them.
It's clip thirty five, Michael, listen to this.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Well, from what I'm hearing, if if it's true, the
guy who got shot, he was a pretty big influence
in whatever was going, like the their agenda, right, So
if I don't know, I hope, I hope it all
like gets figured out. And I really don't I really
(09:31):
don't want this to happen again.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Want.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I just I
from what I heard it was it was a sniper
from from a long ways away. So I don't know.
I think the focus of this should probably be on
probably some sort of some sort of gun control or
something like that so that things like this can't happen again.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Thank you guys so much for doing a Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
So if you two are having sex, please wear a
condom and do not reproduce.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Oh oh my lord, wow. Oh. If you have ever.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Felt like they're just letting anyone into college, today is
your day. Well that's something.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
If you have a job position that one of the
requirements is a college degree, perhaps rethink that.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Who had that fox?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, what I would like to know is how quickly
was the person back in the producer back in the
engineer with you got to get these people up the air.
This is get rid of them. What are we doing?
That is embarrassing? I know, it was just astonished to
obviously in the moment with the tragedy, you're wanting information,
you quickly realized you're not getting any from these dunderpates.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
All right, go ahead and cut them off. You're not
gonna hurt their feelings. Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yeah, that was something, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
She had an IQ of eight, he might have been twelve.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
That poor girl. How is she gonna make her way
in the world?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Is she pretty? Oh?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
She got something going for m wow. Okay, so we
get a deep breath. All right, we all needed the
deep breath. The fabulous and the eloquent Spencer Cox, the
Governor of Utah, coming up next day with us.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
A lot of voices yesterday that I heard in all
the newscasts. I heard the Governor of Utah everywhere everywhere.
Governor Spencer Cox, incredibly eloquent. He stepped to the microphone
and this is what he said.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
This is a dark day for our state. It's a
tragic day for our nation.
Speaker 9 (12:02):
And I want to be very clear that this is
a political assassination.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
We are celebrating two hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
Of the founding of this great nation, that founding document,
the Declaration of Independence, That this great experiment on which
we embark together two hundred and fifty years ago, that
we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
The first one of those.
Speaker 9 (12:34):
Is life, and today a life was taken. Charlie Kirk
was first and foremost a husband and a dad to
two young children.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
He was also.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
Very much politically involved, and that's why he was here
on campus. Charlie believed in the power of free speech
and debate to shape ideas and to persuade people. Historically,
our university campuses in this nation and here in the
(13:22):
state of Utah have been the place where truth and
ideas are formulated and debated. And that's what he does.
He comes on college campuses and he debates as foundational
to the formation of our country, to our most basic
constitutional rights. And when someone takes the life of a
(13:47):
person because of their ideas or their ideals, then that
very constitutional foundation is threatened. We have a person of
interest in custody. The investigation is ongoing, but I want
(14:07):
to make it crystal clear right now to whoever did this,
we will find you, we will try you, and we
will hold you accountable to the furthest extent of the law.
And I just want to remind people that we still
have the death penalty here in the state of Utah.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
Our nation is broken. We've had.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
Political assassinations recently in Minnesota. We had an attempted assassination
on a governor of Pennsylvania, and we had.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
An attempted assassination.
Speaker 9 (15:00):
I'm a presidential candidate and former president of the United
States and now current President of the United States. Nothing
I say can unitus as a country. Nothing I can
say right now can fix what is broken. Nothing I
can say can bring back Charlie Kirk. Our hearts are broken.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
We mourn.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
With his wife, his children, his family, his friends. We
mourn as a nation. If anyone, in the sound of
my voice celebrated even a little bit at the news
of this shooting, I would beg you to look in
the mirror and to see if you can find a
(15:49):
better angel in there somewhere. I don't care what his
politics are. I care that he was an American.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
You know that seems like a good place Michael Spencer Costs,
Governor of Utah.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, I was really good on obviously very short notice,
because that was at the point where they still believed
they had a person of interest. That was good stuff. Yeah,
I'd agree with that. If you find yourself cheering the
assassination of a political opponent, man, you got to check yourself.
(16:25):
There's something wrong with you. I don't care who they are.
You can't pick anybody on the left. I don't want
to name names because it's kind of but I mean,
there's some abhorrent characters on the left. To me, I
would not be happy to hear they were assassinated at
an event. That is not good.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
No, it's horrifying.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
So The New York Times, just to be thorough, has
updated and is now covering the fact that federal and
local officials say the ammunition appeared to be engraved with
statements quote expressing transgender and anti fascist ideology. But then
they hit us with a paragraph senior law Enforcement the
caution the report has not been verified by analysts, and
(17:05):
in fast moving investigations, such status reports are not made
public because they often contained a mix.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Of accurate and inaccurate information.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
That is true they went to a lot of trouble
to point it out.
Speaker 10 (17:18):
Armstrong and Getty, this needs to be a time to
bring the country together, regardless of what happens, and I
can tell you there's going to be very few platforms
who do that. There's been in the last hour some
disgusting coverage on MSNBC. I overused that word, but this
is truly disgusting. Charlie's shooting will be politicized because that's
(17:43):
what happens that. I'm not against politicization the way some
people are, but I'm against vilization that needlessly divides the country.
Charlie said things in his career. He said things that
were inflammatory, and we'll see the wholest. But he's involved
in national life because he cares about the picture of
(18:04):
the country, and he's a He is a brilliant guy
and in his thirties has already become an historical figure.
And if he doesn't make it, I'm hoping that people
use the opportunity to bring the country together.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
So as Mark Alpern yesterday live YouTube cast when he
heard the news that his good friend Charlie Kirk had
been shot, they had been together the day before, and
he said that stuff about MSNBC's coverage being disgusting. Later
in the afternoon, I saw his episode where somebody else
said that, and he said, let's let's not go there,
(18:43):
because he's he's really anti what would you call it,
attacking each other like that. It just his platform. He
boots people out of the chat who post stuff like that.
He just he doesn't want any of that kind of conversation.
And he said, he said, I'm going to give him
the benefit of the doubt. Now, Matthew Dowd got fired
(19:06):
by MSNBC a couple hours later for things he said,
but Mark Alpert said, I'm going to give him the
benefit of the doubt. It happened alive. They saw a
man shot to death on television. They're having to do
live TV. They just reflexively went into MSNBC mode. They
didn't know what else to do. I'm going to give
him a break for that. So it's very generous. Yeah,
that is very generous.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
More generous than I would be.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I would agree. So, speaking of a gring or not agreeing,
do you agree what Trey Goudy says about the video.
The video was out fast of you know, seeing a
guy get shot in the neck and bleed out that
video was out there. My kid and Hanson's kid both
saw the video at school before we even picked him
(19:50):
up from school, which I find horrifying. It's kind of
a different topic, but for adults, this is what Trey
Goudy had to say.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
As painful as it is, people have to watch the
video from yesterday, and while they're watching it, and they're
going to want to turn their heads away. But you
need to imagine this as a husband and a father
and a friend, not someone politically that you may happen
to disagree with. This video is so jarring to watch.
(20:20):
The problem is it really happened, and it happened in
the greatest country in the world, and so we got
to have a conversation about how much of this we're
willing to put up with. So watch what happened to him.
He is killed in an instant, in an instant, from
two hundred yards for what reason, because you happen to
disagree with his political beliefs. Make yourself watch it and
(20:46):
realize this is a husband and a father, not just
some political person with whom you may happen to disagree.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So is he arguing for showing it on television because
most networks didn't show it off if anybody showed it
on TV? Did anybody show it on TV?
Speaker 7 (21:03):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
It was bouncing around online.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
No, I understand his point, and I agree with him partially. Yeah,
it varies completely person to person.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I don't agree. I just I haven't seen it. I
don't think I need to see it to fully understand
how freaking awful it is that a dad of two
little kids got.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Shot to death, Right, I would agree with you.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
At the same time, I'll tell you why I did
watch it, the same reason I forced myself to read
and watch an entire presentation I saw on what a
rifle round does to a human body because I wanted
to know.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
It is very easy.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
And again this various personal person I don't judge anybody
for the decision they made. It is very, very easy
in the modern world, with our modern entertainment to hear
somebody got shot and picture what you see on TV
in some cop drama and not grasp the full horror
of how violent and deadly it is. And to me,
(22:10):
there's a usefulness. And again, not everybody feels this, and
that's great, that's fine. There's a usefulness to be brought
nearly to the edge of vomiting by how horrifying in
real life it is.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
That's why I watched it.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
That could be. I feel like there's a lot of
the opposite. People who do watch that sort of stuff
who are completely unmoved by it, and people who don't
watch it who are completely moved by it because they
get what happened.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
And a completely different discussion from children watching it.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Oh, no doubt, by the way, and my kids were
at well, my oldest he doesn't talk to me. He's
high school.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I can't drag words. Oh why would he? You don't
know anything. But my thirteen year old was worried. He said,
is that going to happen to you? Because he knows
I've joked about this a lot, maybe too much, about
how many people hate me, or like when we run
into somebody somewhere, like, you know, I don't know if
I'm gonna get a positive reaction or negative rect They've
seen people hate me, they've seen me flipped off by
(23:08):
people who hate me.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
So my son was worried, is this gonna happen to you?
And I said, no, it's very unlikely. This sort of
thing happens that it very very rarely happens. You know,
I didn't say what I was thinking of. Geez, I
hope this doesn't happen to me. It could. We've had
people angry enough at us that could do that sort
of thing.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
And as we've discussed, although I don't think this is
the case, but we've also discussed it's the person that
doesn't make any sense what's so right? Right that most
often is you know, dangerous.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Or maybe misheard you, or thinks you're somebody at are
their toasters talking to them?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Freaking crazy?
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I was gonna wonder this. So the pictures are out.
FBI's released photos asking for help. So if you know
that you know college kid in Utah, and somebody's gonna say,
oh yeah, that sure looks like.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Jaden And the pictures are good enough that you if
you knew him, you would recognize him. Well, when I'm
wondering the hat and sunglasses, he had a plan. Clearly,
he knew Charlie Kirk was coming, He knew where Charlie
Kirk was gonna be, what direction he was gonna be facing,
what building he should.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Get up on top of? What gun he would need.
He did a lot of planning, and he had a
plan to get away. Often, most of the time these
people don't really have a plan to get away, or
not a good one anyway. Yeah, and they get caught.
Sometimes they want to be caught. Like the guy who
assassinated those two Jewish people in Washington, d C. He
(24:42):
dropped his gun and said.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
It was me.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
It was me. I killed him because Palestine is a
you know, an undergoing a genocide. I mean, he wanted
to get his message out. So there's that kind of person. Also,
is this person gonna be found dead in the wounds
with a gunshot to his head? He's gonna take himself out?
Is he gonna turn himself in because he's a a
strong believer and he wants to say why he killed
Charlie Kirk? Is he gonna Does he think he can't
(25:05):
possibly think he's gonna get away?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Is he gonna try to take some cops with him?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Man, there's always that chance. I I hope not. He
can't possibly think. He can't possibly think he's gonna get away, though.
Do you think he's gonna get to Canada or Mexico
or something, or California?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
You know, it's not inconceivable.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I shouldn't say that because Gavin Knwsom condemned the violence
as strongly as anybody did yesterday. Right, also a friend
of Charlie Kirk. That's what That's one of the many
reasons this is so freaking horrible. This is the last
guy that should get shot. Nobody should for political reason,
But this is the last guy if you had to
make a list, and you shouldn't. But he, I mean,
(25:44):
he wanted to have calm discourse about the topics.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Donald Trump Junior actually wrote a really eloquent tribute to him.
He said, Charlie was never a threat to anyone. He
was civil, he was kind, He listened and responded with respect.
The only threat he ever posed was that he was
incredibly effective. Yeah, he was a powerful messenger of truth
and people heard that truth.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
That's what made him a target.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
The people that seemed to get the angriest at him,
though it all seemed to come from the world of
the whole trans discussion.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
That was where the most heat was. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
He was also staunchly pro life, and the pro abortion
rights crowd really really disliked him. But the real anger
seemed to be from the radical transgender folks.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, I heard it portrayed on I shouldn't say which network,
which yould I don't remember one of your mainstream networks.
Charlie Kirk, who was strongly anti women's health. I thought, okay,
I know what that means.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Nice, nice characterization of his position.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Right there, that he was anti transgender people when he
was against anti radical transgender theory and the mutilation of.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Children anyway, So it wouldn't be shocking if it turns
out that that was the ish that drove this psychopathic, nutcase,
evil person that I hope gets arrested very soon. And
as the governor pointed out, we have the death penalty
here in Utah.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah, well, we'll find out, we pray soon who this
guy was and what he was thinking, and we'll bring
it to you. And if it turns out that the
direction we've been led by the evidence so far is
completely wrong, we'll tell you. So I have no need
to get to a particular conclusion. I like to base
my conclusions on facts and not vice versa. Perhaps you
(27:32):
could try that in the media someday, the other media.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I thought that when the Wall Street Journal broke the
story a couple hours ago that there were some trans
messages and TIFA messages on the ammunition found in the rifle.
I thought that would explode as a story, and it
has not even really on Fox. So is everybody thinking, WHOA,
this is hot? We better wait until we're very, very
(28:00):
sure it's possible, because doesn't this seem like the sort
of thing that becomes a panel discussion on every cable
news show.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah, yeah, one way or the others. Yeah, I'm everybody
has mentioned that report at this point. I thought it
would be not everybody, I'm sorry. A number of places,
including the New York Times.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Go really really big. Anyway, we will finish strong next
rare that something so big happens that we do an
entire four hour show about it. That's usually around usually
(28:45):
around a tragedy, unfortunately. But then these remaining moments, a
couple things I want to mention. While I'm mentioning something, Michael,
we got three jokes from the Late Night comment Those
are the shows that taped before the shooting, correct, So
they're just doing a regular show. Whichever one of those
(29:06):
you think is the funniest, But hold on to that.
I just came across this. This can't be true. I
should click on the story and actually read it. This
is from the New York Post. Plans for a mega
lux resort spark fury as bulldozers invade the site where
Moses received the Ten Commandments? Whoa are they actually bulldozing
(29:32):
rocks where Moses got the tablets? For a hotel?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Golden Calf Accommodations announces the opening of our new resort.
Yeah wow, wow, can we like maybe have it as
a preserve of some sort?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Can I stay in the Pharaoh's room? How much does
that cost? Okay, so there's that. Maybe I'll look into
that for tomorrow. What's your best joke? You got, Michael?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Then, Lewin ice Cream has unveiled a new sunscreen flavored
ice cream. That was ice cream? Yelled this guy?
Speaker 8 (30:15):
What happened to you?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Steve?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
With ice cream smelled like copper tone.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Put it all over my.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Body, covered in seagulls all day.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Beach.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Jesus, Sorry, Steve, So I missed the beginning of that somehow.
What what sun screen flavored ice cream? Okay, that's what
I thought? It was sunstream and smeared it all over
his body. You see what sunscreen flavored mean.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I don't know. I've never pat it.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Right, You're not supposed to know the flavor of a topical.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Tree to put it in your mouth. Oh, this is novel.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
It's ice cream tastes like a topical treatment to avoid
radiation burns.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Let me put it in my mouth. I mean what?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Let me put it next to my apple pie.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I guess it's so you can tell a story.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Exhausting show.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Today, the left wing social network blue Sky has announced that,
after many, many dozens of posts celebrating the grisly murder
of the young Charlie Kirk, that celebrating the assassination violated
its rules and you need to stop.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
So that's an example of what Elon called the other
day the woke mind virus. If you celebrate the death
of a political opponent, and I don't care what your
politics are, I would feel the same way about a
buddy of mine who's a Trump supporter, if he found
out Joy Reid got gun down in the street and
celebrated it. There's something wrong with you. You have a political
virus of some sort. Yeah, here's a Muslim activist called
(31:52):
Charlie a horrible hateful man. I refuse to sanitize him.
He didn't hate anybody. But even if he did. You see,
that's the deal. You can't have it. You can't have
you can't have political violence. Yeah, how do you see
it playing out? If you start murdering your political opponents?
How do you think that's going to play out to
(32:14):
a good end? Lay that out for me.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, these people are just consumed by their anger and
their hate, and in many cases they're jealousy, and they
don't think rationally. They're just cauldrons of hate.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Ah, that is shocking to me. See here here, this
is very complicated. See if you if your starts killing
the other side, they'll think, hmm, I guess we should
start doing the same thing, and then we're all killing
each other. Yeah, it's happened many, many times throughout history.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
On a practical level, you don't want to get in
a shooting war with the right. That's not a threat,
that's just a statement of reasonable fact. Even if you
have no soul, you have no kindness, you have no
regard for humanity. On a practical level, it's a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, Well, tomorrow, I'm sure we'll be back to more
or less a regular show, although I have a feeling
I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have the guy
or his body the shooter by tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I certainly hope so.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Or a really good idea to know who he is.
They've got him, They've got to have already received dozens
of tips who say that sure looks like the guy
I have science class with, or my neighbor upstairs or whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Right, I'd be shocked if you're not right, because again,
the images are pretty good. You can easily see his
build and his body shape and the shape of his face.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
In a not particularly populated area of the country, so
it's not like he can disappear into a city of
twelve million people like La or something to walk the shot.
But I'm ready to list again. Here's your host for
(34:12):
final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
to wrap things up for the day. We think Katie's
coming back tomorrow. But Michael Angelo, why don't you lead
us off?
Speaker 11 (34:22):
This may never happen, but we need politics to be
boring again. Because of social media, everything's shocking, entertaining, over
the top, and now people just want to be entertained
or shocked.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
They don't want policy. I know it's boring, but it's
what we need. Yeah, agreed, jack. A final thought for us.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I know a lot of you were waiting for a
Prunes update no results, So today I will eat five
prunes as I have the Prunes day by day until
I get a result.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Damn, I lost a bet to me, good lord to me.
Half measures are no good.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Go ten o prove you're serious, satire intestinal system.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
I'm here to win.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I gotta throw in one more serious thing. I wasn't
going to. Hey, those of you news outlets who are
running clips of Charlie Kirk being pro Second Amendment and
how we use four gun ownership, who think you're being clever,
you're not.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Oh yeah, who think that's some sort of checkmate?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Right exactly? Who got him? He was four individuals being
able to own guns, yet he was shot. You're not
accomplishing anything, you morons. Yeah, we're not pro murder, you jackasses.
Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
So many people, thanks, so a little time. Go to
Armstrong and Giddy dot com. The hot links are there there.
We may have hot links today.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Drop us a no, what's your take? What's your suggestion?
What are you thinking? Mail bag at Armstrong and geddy
dot com. We'll go through them tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, and then, well there will be a lot to
talk about tomorrow. I'm sure we'll see then. God bless America.
This is a dark moment for America.
Speaker 8 (36:10):
It's a tragic day for our nation.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
And I'll be honest with you, I am an utter
disbelief at this.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
He's a martyr for truth and freedom.
Speaker 11 (36:18):
Charlie was a patriot who devoted his life to the
cause of open debate.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
If you could be associated with one thing, how would
you want to be remembered. I want to be remembered
for courage from my faith. That would be the most
important thing. The most important thing is my faith in
my life.
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