September 16, 2025 • 35 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features..
- The temperature is hot right now
- Chef bank robber & beard news
- If Gavin Newsom becomes president....
- TikTok & punching an alligator
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Jetty and no Key Armstrong and Jetty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We look at the kinds of things that have been happening,
starting on the first day of this year, with a
terrorist attack in New Orleans, school shootings in Minneapolis, a
politicians being gunned down in their front doors, the Charlie
Kirk shooting. The pace of this, which used to be
something that was every month or every other month, is
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now every week or every other week. Something is definitely
wrong with the idea that our public discourse has now
become a discourse that has spoken in violent acts as
opposed to discussions.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
That's John Miller on CNN former FBI. I think that's
what he was. You know, I didn't know that the
pace had picked up. Really, it seemed pretty awful to
me for quite a while, and then you know, you
get just lost in the blur of news and you
can't remember what happened when. Yeah, that little laundry list
(01:19):
there was pretty troubling. But I assume he's looking at
the actual stats. If the pace has picked up, a
violence of like big public violence, terrorist attacks, school shootings,
political violence, and ain't good.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, everybody can feel that the overall temperature is just higher.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yeah, there's no denying that the tenor of the vast
majority of conversations is much much more vicious and angry
than generally, you know, not too long ago.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I was seeing about this the other day.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
How it we know people are speeding more. Yeah, and
just like in I see more people driving ridiculously fast
in town than I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, like, what are you doing? Right? So that's probably
part of it, right, are just we're hot running hot? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Yeah, just there's well, I don't know, this is like
a book length topic, but there is a lack of
a feeling of shared responsibility and kinship with your fellow man,
being fellow citizens, being part of the same community, as
accountable to each other.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
And you probably know where I was going with this
when I started into this. But what caused it?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Mostly people always say social media. I don't know if
social media is the right term, but is it just
the online thing that's a chunk of everything that is online.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
It's a chunk of it the way it feeds you
stuff to make you feel crazier. Everybody that I know,
I know a.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Few people that are like off the rails. The couple
of people I know that are off the rails are
one hundred percent off the rails because of Twitter and
Facebook and whatever things they're.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
On, right, one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Right, Well, and those conversations tend to be angry, and
you know, fantasize about violence or eliminating the enemy and
that sort of thing in a way that leaks into
real life as we've just seen recently the other thing.
And I used to hesitate to say this, And whether
it's just agent I don't give a crap anymore, or
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I just think it really needs to be said. No
matter what you think of quote unquote diversity or rampant immigration.
We've gone from a country that had a vast level
of an extremely high level of agreement on basic cultural
concepts to a country in which we have a bunch
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of different subgroups who say openly I don't agree with
your concept, your culture, idea of politics, or the family,
or religion, or law or violence or women or one
hundred different things. We now live in a much much
more much less homogeneous society than we used to.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
That's a huge part of it. Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I was having a conversation about the social compact with
my kids the other day. In the various ways it
displays itself, just like you know, holding the door open
for somebody, or somebody saying how you doing, you say,
I'm fine. There's like no meaning there really other than
we're we're both distributing that we're part of, you know,
polite society. Yeah, and playing by the rules. That's kind
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of what we're saying, right doing.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
And it extends to not cutting in line. Yeah, one
hundred different examples.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah, but yeah, I wonder how much of it is
the online thing, and that isn't going away. Just the
fact that the temperature is higher. The temperature is higher
all the way around. It's just higher. It's hotter in sports,
it's hotter in politics, it's hotter on your se the streets,
it's hotter in schools.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
It's just higher everywhere.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah, angsty, Well, if there's anything to do about that.
Cash Pattel, the guy who runs the FBI, is before Congress,
right answer answering questions. One interesting thing that's come out
He said they believe there were at least twenty people
on that discord at the time playing video games. Discord
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is a talk to each other app, website, whatever the
hell it is. My kids use it sometimes you were headphones,
you know, talk to each other while you're playing video games,
he says. Cash Patel said there at least twenty people
on there when he talked about the killer talked about
taking out Charlie Cook and admitting that he did it.
Kirk Kirk, damn it twenty people? So in avance of
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the killing, you know, I didn't nail that or was
it when he confessed, I don't know which. Okay, I
have to nail that down, handsOn. If you can nail
that down, that'd be interesting because we are trying to
figure out, obviously if there was some sort of group
that had a pretty good idea that this guy was
gonna assassinate Charlie Kirk, because that would be a big
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story obviously. Okay, So there's that, and we'll bring you
the update on that is as soon as we get it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
So Bill Maher he's better known as.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
A commentator in political pundit now than he is as
a stand up comedian. Certainly he's an old guy. It's
like seventy five years old.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Ors on them.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
He's got this show where he just interviews famous people
alone in his basement while he smokes pot and drinks,
and it's better than it sounds. It's very entertaining. I mean,
the one he did with Billy Joel the other day,
or he does politicians, or the more he drinks, the
worst it cands true true you get toward or higher
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he get. The higher he gets smoking pot, he just laughs.
He giggles for a long time. It's like, Okay, you're high.
I'm not don Unless you've ever been to a party sober,
it's like, okay, I got to get out of here.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
People are killing me. Sometimes it's that.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
But anyway, he had had Charlie Kirk on just a
couple of months ago and they had a long, great
conversation which he references here because he was taping one
with Billy Corgan, who was a singer with a group
you might not even remember, Smashing Pumpkins.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
He was.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
He was taping it the day that he got news
that Charlie Kirk had been shot. And what he has
to say about political violence and everything like that. I
think is pretty interesting here.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
It is the irony as a lot of people in
my position is still a liberal, just a traditional liberal,
not won't go along with their like a lot of
the stuff that's just crazy out there too far, which
gets Trump elected.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
As I always say to my woke friends, we voted
for the same person. You're just why she lost.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Oh God, took me a second. Sorry, i'd absorbed that.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Okay. You know, they're the people who don't want to talk.
It's my main issue with them. They and Charlie Kirk
was a guy who like he was always talking, and
I talked to him here. You know, the right wingers
say what you want about them, but they talk to you.
They're not into this leftist think that the left really
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has much more of a I don't talk to you.
I don't want to deal with you. You're deplorable. I
can't break bread with you that attitude, And like all
the right wingers, they don't have that attitude.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
No, again, I didn't vote for them.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
And Charlie Kirk and I certainly don't agree on much politically,
but he sat here. He's a human being, he's not
a monster.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
And a husband and a father. Yes, and I liked him.
I liked them all.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
They're all nice people when you meet them in person,
and they're not as crazy as they would nobody's as
crazy as they make them out to be. We're never
going to get solved this unless it begins with both
sides agreeing we both do it.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
That's what I've been saying for a while now. Bill
Maher on his Friday night HBO show the other night,
we opened up with his monologue. He said Trump was
at a restaurant the other night and people started chanting Hitler, Hitler,
and he said that asks has got to stop. He's
not Hitler. You might not like him, but he's not Hitdler.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Let's quit with this, right they Yeah, I was just
reading a really great, thorough piece on how the left
got Trump re elected.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
That was he elected?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Yeah, that's a good point Bill Maher makes when you're
talking to woke people.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Hey, you're the ones that got Trump elected.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
Not me.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Why are you mad at me? I'm a liberal. I
voted for Gammlo.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Heirs well to a large extent, not conservatives, I mean
conservative supported Trump.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
The woke left got Trump elected, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Yeah, you know, one of the problems the left has
is the a lot of ideological energy comes from actual
neo Marxists who want to overthrow Western civilization.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
A lot of the useful idiots who.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Just go along with it because they've fallen for their
fake moral arguments aren't as died in the wool as
the activist class is. But like Bill Maher is talking about,
you know, you got Trump elected and you got to
drop the woke.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Stuff and all.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
But what he's forgetting is that that activist class, and
I don't know what percentage of the left it is,
but they're extremely active, and very smart and very aggressive.
And again, if you think I'm having some sort of
conservative fantasy, I will tell you which books they read,
or i'm sorry, which books they wrote in which they
vowed to do precisely what they're doing now in the
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way they're doing it. The problem that Bill Maher has
is he and a lot of good folks don't get
that yet they take these people at word that therefore
inclusion and diversity and equity and the rest of it,
and don't know what's behind it, including some people I'm
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surprised haven't gotten the memo yet. But that's why I
do what to do. It's a big day for the
beard jack. What's the deal with all the beards?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Okay, so we'll get in beard talk. Let me come back.
We're gonna have our first bearded president.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
In a very long time soon.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I think there's a very good chance of it, which
is not good news for anybody who wants a female president.
Probably won't have a bearded lady as president. Our first
female president will not have a beard. I'm willing to
wage money on Wow.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Yeah, I'd go heavily at that proposition. Yes, the bearded lady,
Now I'll transgender.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
True.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
So anyway, we've got a lot of the ways there.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
A once celebrated chef known for sharing his flare for
Italian cooking online, now behind bars. He was of robbing
three banks in San Francisco in a single day.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Police day.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Just after noon on September tenth, Valentino and Lucan entered
the first bank and passed a note to the teller
demanding money and fleeing with the cash. Lucan then allegedly
targeted two more banks. He was arrested later that day,
and authority say it was tips that linked him to
the robberies. Lucan is now facing several robbery charges in
San Francisco and he's being held on two hundred thousand.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Dollars bought a prominent San Francisco area chef, which would
be a pretty good job. Rob's three banks in one day,
and it's not the first time he did it.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
He's a serial bank cropper. Wow, you gotta put him
in the kitchen in prison, right you support the heck yeah, win, win,
toss and silid Yeah, among other things. Certainly main courses
as well. New York Times. What's with all the beards?
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More and more men seem to be putting down the razor?
Blah blah blah. This column by Vanessa Friedman. The first
part is actually kind of interesting. Jade Van's first major
party nominee on a presidential ticket with facial hair in
seventy five years. I remember talking about that at the convention.
Far from being a historical norm. According to the Popular
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Beard Blog, there have been four great beard movements in history.
The second century. We all remember that, the Middle Ages,
the Renaissance, in the late nineteenth century. We are currently
in the fifth. What then she goes into famous bearded
figures from Shakespeare to Moses.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Oh good.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
There are also Abraham Lincoln, Karl Marx and to name
a few. Nobody needs you to name a few anyway,
This woman Vanessa Friedman Jesus.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Is usually no, he's bearded.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Sometimes he was gonna say, he's usually clean shaven in paintings,
isn't he?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But no, he's bearded and often bearded.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Usually bearded, although those paintings have nothing to do with
reality whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Let's see.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Traditionally, beards have signified virility, though in the sixties and seventies,
the last Great beard Renaissance, they came to civilize rebellion
literal and cultural against the establishment. But then she gets
into the age of the beard and it's so in,
it's out. Soon there will be clean shavenness coming back,
and blah blah.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
That's interesting.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
The punk movement went was beardless. Bono talks about that
in his memoir book about how that was part of
their whole You know, we're getting rid of our dad's music,
the Beatles and all the beards. We were clean shaven.
That was like radical and we're different. Yeah, okay, good,
good for you. Any play it's just interesting. How what
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becomes radical? And then you clean shaven long enough and
now all the cool young well, oh he's now tired.
But as of a few years ago, all the cool
young baseball players musicians had beards. Because you're a rebel,
char right, and if you care what the New York
Times thinks of your beard or lack of beard, we
can't be friends.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Well, you're not a rebel. They should shut up if
you're reading.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Articles in the New York Times about whether or not
you used to have a beard when you or not punk.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Speaking of the New York Times, it was just a
day after assassin killed Charlie Kirk in cold blood on
a college campus that The New York Times published a
story in which the paper quoted a segment on Kurt's
podcast proving he was an anti Semite, and that story
ran for hours and hours.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I saw it, I read it. I was shocked. I
was like, wait a.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Minute, I didn't know this about Charlie, and I didn't
see their correction many hours later, in which they pointed out,
and I quote, an earlier version of this article described
incorrectly an anti Semitic statement that Charlie Kirk had made
on an episode of his podcast, he was quoting a
statement on social media and went on to critique it.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And refuse it was not his own statement.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Wow, nice job, most important newspaper in the world.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Good lord, how do you make a mistake like that?
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Or a day after he was murdered. I'll bet it was.
I'll bet it wasn't on purpose. It was we want
this to be true so bad you found it quickly
ran in.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yes, the writer didn't want to check, the editors didn't
want to check, or they just swallowed something out there
because they knew he was an awful person.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
He's a monster who.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Spread spread hate and division, so there's no need to
check right exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
God, that is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
He actually, in that podcast, the way you cocked an
ear for a minute, responded to anti semitism powerfully and eloquently.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
The way they ran that correction makes it seem like
we're sorry the guy that we said, uh invented the lawnmower.
We said his middle name was Thomas when it was
actually Tim. No, this is a big deal.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
On his podcast, Charlie Kirk called the Jews divisive and
and and had declared war on white people and the
rest of it. The flaming anti semite was killed the
other Now it was the opposite, the opposite.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Nice work, Armstrong and getty. Sorry, Michael, I don't know
where I saw that. I mean losing my mind out.
Probably I've never seen such a clear cutcase.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I think I'm losing my mind. Sorry about that, Michael.
I blame myself. So I got into the story. I
just saw it from NBC News. They've done a six
month investigation about herd immunity for a whole bunch of
different diseases across the country. Now they're the the the
impetus for the study and the way they want to
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shade it. I don't like and don't agree with. It's
all about wanting to beat up on RFK Junior and
Trump and all that sort of stuff. But regardless of that,
it sounds pretty damn plausible to me, and it's in
a it's a real problem we have as a guy
who got whooping cough.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
That's why it's on my mind.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
There is a decline in people having their kids vaccinated,
no doubt, but it's small so far, but it's there.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
You add that to adults.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Who got their shots decades ago and of now they've
now worn off, which none of us think about.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
That's what the NBC.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Story talks about, right, we all think I got the
shot for whooping cough when might That's what my mom
told me when I got whooping cough. She said, well,
I got you the shot when you were a baby.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Mom. I'm sixty, but I, like, I never thought about it.
I wasn't walking.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Around thinking, man, I'm really I'm I'm rotten dirty here
on whooping cough and tetanus and all kinds of different things.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
But I'm willing to take my chances. I wasn't thinking
about it at all, and neither are you. Neither is
anybody else.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
But the percentage you need to get to mean we
all remember this a little bit from COVID, right, is
this thing called herd immunity. If you get to like
ninety five percent of people not being able to get
to a disease, it can't spread runs out of vectors,
It just just mathematically can't spread it. And we've been
at that number or higher for all these different diseases
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for decades now, So it didn't matter that so many
adults their immunity had worn off on all these different things. Well,
now the kid number have dropped, even though it's small,
it's gone from like nobody to five percent of kids
who weren't getting inoculated depending on where you live. It's
crossed the line. And that's how I ended up with
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whooping cough and lots of people. And you're seeing more
tuberculosis and a bunch of these different things, and that
might be a serious problem for the country. I don't
know what we do about this, other than I wonder
if adults are going to start getting measles shots and
whooping cough shots and all these different well filget boosters
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that in the past hadn't been deemed necessary because there's
nobody to give it to you, all right, Nobody ever
told me ever that I should get a booster of
my t DAP shot that you get your kids.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Right, right, And you didn't mention immigration, but that's a
factor too. You let millions of people and NBC in
your country unvaccinated.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, you're right, NBC. NBC isn't going to mention that.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
So a chunk of that percentage is the biggest migration
in world history that happened over the last presidential term.
We won't mention the mummy who was president. Yeah, that
plays a role obviously. What's it like to be one of.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Those people like at NBC News who want to are
they willfully ignoring immigration? Have they not heard it?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Are they?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I'm picturing them saying, you know, it's probably not a
major factor, and we don't want to like give people
an excuse for racism, so we'll leave that out.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Are they just that ignorant? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It's more interesting and true, which should be your number
one goal when writing any piece. That we've crossed the
five percent who are out there able to spread it well,
the ninety five percent people that are immune for her immunity.
We've crossed that line because of three things. Fewer kids,
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an aging population where their shots are wearing off, and
rampant immigration. But those three factors is what got us here.
Why wouldn't you report the whole thing?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
I would love to know. Seriously, it's not that hard,
so don't be surprised. I guess if doctors starts saying,
you know, you need to get your measle mump's rubella
or tetanus, diphtheria, whatever the official name is of whooping cough,
something starts with the PTEs.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I believe it's the P and T dep. You don't
want to know, and you sure don't want your baby
to have it. No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
It's worst thing. Worst disease I've ever had was whooping golf.
And if a kid had it, yeah, I'd be horrifying.
There's COVID all over the place right now. I know,
I know people with COVID now that I knew three
years ago, and it's a different beast. Now, it's a
different beast. People aren't getting the job. I'm not either,
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and it spreads like you can't stop the spread of
it at this point.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Speaking of the mainstream media, I sat on this for
a few days and just never got to the articles,
so I now have getten away from them. But there
were pieces in both the New York Times and I
think it was Washington Post about how people were just
outraged that they and their kids didn't have access to
the COVID vaccine and their kids sometimes like, wait, what
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what is the matter with you cultists?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Seriously? Is it like in your head? I don't know, if.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
You're old, got comorbidities, tough respiratory or cardiac situation. You know,
you're probably fine getting it. I'm not with the crowd
that thinks that, like I was. Did RFK Junior himself
say that the vaccine killed more people in the disease.
That's a bizarre and ridiculous thing to say.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I think he did say that years ago. He has
walked it back, and he did say at one point.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
But anyway, but if you're like anxious for your kids
to get a COVID vaccine.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You're a cultist.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Unless there's a special circumstance, then we're not talking about you.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Some of the testimony I think it's today actually was
going to be and they were using their sarcastic tone
on NPR somebody I don't even remember who it is.
We'll be making the claim that COVID wasn't as deadly
as officials had said. It absolutely wasn't as deadly as
officials said. They acted like your kid was at risk
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all the time. And I don't think a single healthy
child in America died, not one in the whole country.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Correct, Yeah, how many people do that? Yeah? I know,
very frustrating.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
One other story that I can fit into the time
we got I thought this an interesting piece in the
Wall Street Journal kind of want it to be true,
kind of don't want it to be true.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
It's the idea that this.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Referendum we're gonna have November fourth in California for redistricting
is going to doom Gavin Newsom. It's an opinion piece
in the Wall Street Journal, and they just think it's
gonna take him down. He's putting all his eggs in
that basket, seems to be fighting hard. He putting out
lots of videos, giving speeches and everything like that.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It's polling horribly. And I assume you all know this story.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
It's a well, it's an attempt for Gavin Newsom to
look like the person who's the resistance to Trump so
he can become the Democratic nominee for press. But he
wants to do in California what they're doing in Texas
with the redistricting to get more Democrats. But if they
already have except they already did it years ago, but
they're going to try to squeeze a few more Democrats
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out of the state. It's polling horribly, this ballot measure
to redistrict in the middle like this, and even sixty
percent of Democrats don't like it. So just people just
don't like it. It looks undemocratic, blah blah blah. And
this piece in the World Street Journal thinks it will
doom him that when it goes down big and he
is really you know, put a lot of oop behind it. Yeah,
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it's gonna tank him with donors and just in the
eyes of the the experts who are talking him up.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I don't know if I agree with that or not.
And again I don't know if I want it to
be true or not.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Yeah, I would certainly like to see him brought down
and humiliated, but by other things.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Right, I it's funny.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
I had never considered him the considered the idea of
him winning the presidency. I've considered he could get the nomination.
I think if he became president, I would become so
despondent I could no longer participate in the in the country.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I would just I.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Would be I would so I would have to give
up my idea that we can govern ourselves, total loss
of will to live. I would become like Michael Malice,
where I no longer believe in democracy. I just don't
think people pay enough attention or smart enough because if
Gavin newsm gets elected, that means nobody looked into California
and what it's like.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Yeah, it's easy to spin the scenario where that happens.
So it is of sure, yeah, yeah, I mean number one,
and everybody knows this right, A very small percentage of
the electorate nominates the candidates. It's the hardest core of
you know whatever. Thirty percent of the population is a
declared Democrat at this point.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I actually think that works against it because since he's
trying to moderate getting the nomination, you'd need to be
all free transition surgeries for illegal children.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Right, Well, he has no beliefs, so he'll be able
to swing back to the left during the primaries. But
but then something happens with the Republican nominee, whether a
narrative is built that just sways enough people, a giant scandal,
a shocking health problem, Joe Biden, just something clears the
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way because it's a binary choice.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Sure, I tell you what though, and that i'd be
depressing the comelopolics.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Pauluck Ellipse should have taught the parties.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Look, we've got to have a you know, the little
glass box with the hammer break in emergency, we've got
to at least have a protocol for we've got to
jettison the candidate. We got to put in the backup QB,
because otherwise, you know that scenario plays out. Kevin Newsom
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is the president of the US, having earned it by
driving one of the greatest chunks of geography on Earth
straight into the sore and virtually every way economically, educationally, socially,
people leaving for the first time in its history, right right, seriously,
one of the great places on Earth.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
And oh what a nightmare that would be. I don't
know how he laughed. I laughed.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
I wouldn't know whether to, you know, take to the
ramparts or stand on my head and poop poop woulden nickels? Well,
you know, whatever you paid, you'd be overpaid.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I feel like if you stood upright and poop wood
and nickels would be quite a trick.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Just stand on your head. That does not an act.
Anybody wants to see.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
If you could play the harmonica standing on your head
and poop and would that show you close after a.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Day, I'll give you five dollars for that. Yeah, anyway,
be the whole.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Glass box breaking case of emergency. Where does that come from?
Fire alarms? Back in the day, fire alarms used to
be that way. That's right, Yeah, is that recall? They're
not that way anymore, not generally. No break, You just ask,
what's your chance of cutting yourself horribly?
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Now I'm bleeding and I'm in a f buildings burning down,
you baby, be careful and break the glass.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Okay, ay, right, So what time is it? Oh, we
probably got to take a break.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
So they dropped the terrorism charge against uh Mangioni, the
horrifying murderer. Yeah, maybe you can explain why that is
briefly beutilighted. So it'll be a talking point today, among
other things, on the way.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
The Trump administration is signaling it's close to a deal
with China over TikTok. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson saying the
US and China have reached the quote framework for a
deal TikTok own her bike Dance has until Wednesday's deadline
to sell to a US approved buyer or risk TikTok
being blocked in the US President Trump and China's president
she could announce a deal when they speak together on Friday.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
So the the version I heard of it is, they
have to rewrite the algorithm. Well, if they rewrite the algorithm,
it's a different it's not TikTok, right, I mean call TikTok,
but it's not the TikTok people love so much.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Right, They're going to rewrite the algorithm and then sell
it to a US owner.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, that's what I heard.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
It was even one of Trump's dudes explaining how it works.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Well, that reminds me of what I learned just a
few years ago that like big box hardware stores have
a different version of the product than you would get
directly from the manufacture. They give they offer a less expensive,
probably less great option to lower the price point for
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the big box stores and this will be cut rate TikTok.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Right. Yeah, so I don't I don't quite understand that.
But no, me neither. So that's that story.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
And we're not on TikTok because it to Chinese spy
app and when the deal gets done, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Then.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Don't trust China, that's right.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Also, quickly, why did they drop the terrorism charges against
Luigi Mangioni, the scumbag murderer.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
It's because what he did in shooting the poorer healthcare
executive does not really fit the New York State definition terrorism,
which is tailored to mostly shooting multiple victims over a
clearly political end. It's just too cloudy. It'd be too
easy to lawyer him out of it. So they're just
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going with he's cold blooded murderer.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Okay, fine with me, as long as he does never
get out. I don't care what the charges are, doesn't
make a difference me. And if you support him, you're sick.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
You are.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
And there's lots of people outside that courtroom with pro
hymn signs today, which is pretty twisted because that's a
level of political violence. Also, does this need set up
what we're about to hear? I don't want to give
anything away. It doesn't Michael, Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Here we go.
Speaker 9 (31:58):
I heard wheel and I got pulled. The alligator had
him by his AirTag and drags him and I just
puned and punched and punched, and I punched him in
the eye enough that he kind of let go, like
he unclamped a little and I pulled out, but his
teeth were like here and just drug down my arm.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Be careful with you dogs.
Speaker 9 (32:22):
You know, these alligators are no joke. I mean fifteen
feet he came out to get them.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
That's a woman who punched an alligator in the eye
to get it to release her dog who is being eaten.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Well, all's well, that ends well.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
I guess do we know where that was, Michael I
was in Florida, Hummer, the infamous sewerer Gators of Manhattan.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, you know, I'm glad it ended well.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
But as a guy who spends a fair amount of
time in the Southeast, the conventional wisdom is, if gator
gets hold of Fluffy, say goodbye to Fluffy. I would,
Otherwise you're gonna get dragged into the water and drowned.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Now I'm gonna be like that woman. I'm talking everything
in the face. Absolutely watch his leathery face. I'm gonna
stand and salute my dog. God Fluffy. My dog's not
going anywhere without a fight. Really mm hmm yeah, yeah,
I mean I say that I.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Don't have an alligator in my face actually confronting the situation.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
But no, the superheroin me thinks i'd knocked that thing out.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I actually could see you doing that, my kid, Yes,
pbably until the blessed day occurs that you are a
mom Ah yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
It does change things. That That's funny. I would have
said what you said before I had kids about the dog.
How interesting is that. I'm just saying me, Yeah, this
is true for me, doesn't need to be true for
anybody else. Before I had kids, I would have said
I would fight an alligator to save my dog.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Having kids, no, I would put my kids, but not
the dog. And again with some famil with alligators. I
will tell you there are two ways people get killed
by gaters. Mostly Number one, some oldster is gardening two
clays close and slips into a lake, and the gators
happens to be right there and says, well, I'll be
damned a meal and it's just damned unfortunate. But the
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second thing that happens a lot is the gator gets
Fluffy and Grandma decides she's gonna save Fluffy.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Goodbye, Fluffy, goodbye.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Don't walk dogs, little dogs, especially close to lakes. And Katie,
you know the test for whether there's a gator in
a lake in like Florida, South Carolina, Georgia, Right, huh uh.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Go to the edge of the lake and put your
finger in the lake. Pull it out. If your finger
is wet, there's an effing gator in there.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Now. When I was in the Everglades, there are gators
all over the place, like right by the bike path
because they had gotten me before, i'd have been able
to get away.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Right by the bike path. No, because you look enormous
to them. Okay anyway, So ends Gator Talk Tomorrow Tigers
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Jetty and no Key Armstrong and Jetty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We look at the kinds of things that have been happening,
starting on the first day of this year, with a
terrorist attack in New Orleans, school shootings in Minneapolis, a
politicians being gunned down in their front doors, the Charlie
Kirk shooting. The pace of this, which used to be
something that was every month or every other month, is
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now every week or every other week. Something is definitely
wrong with the idea that our public discourse has now
become a discourse that has spoken in violent acts as
opposed to discussions.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
That's John Miller on CNN former FBI. I think that's
what he was. You know, I didn't know that the
pace had picked up. Really, it seemed pretty awful to
me for quite a while, and then you know, you
get just lost in the blur of news and you
can't remember what happened when. Yeah, that little laundry list
(01:19):
there was pretty troubling. But I assume he's looking at
the actual stats. If the pace has picked up, a
violence of like big public violence, terrorist attacks, school shootings,
political violence, and ain't good.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, everybody can feel that the overall temperature is just higher.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yeah, there's no denying that the tenor of the vast
majority of conversations is much much more vicious and angry
than generally, you know, not too long ago.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I was seeing about this the other day.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
How it we know people are speeding more. Yeah, and
just like in I see more people driving ridiculously fast
in town than I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, like, what are you doing? Right? So that's probably
part of it, right, are just we're hot running hot? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Yeah, just there's well, I don't know, this is like
a book length topic, but there is a lack of
a feeling of shared responsibility and kinship with your fellow man,
being fellow citizens, being part of the same community, as
accountable to each other.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
And you probably know where I was going with this
when I started into this. But what caused it?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Mostly people always say social media. I don't know if
social media is the right term, but is it just
the online thing that's a chunk of everything that is online.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
It's a chunk of it the way it feeds you
stuff to make you feel crazier. Everybody that I know,
I know a.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Few people that are like off the rails. The couple
of people I know that are off the rails are
one hundred percent off the rails because of Twitter and
Facebook and whatever things they're.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
On, right, one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Right, Well, and those conversations tend to be angry, and
you know, fantasize about violence or eliminating the enemy and
that sort of thing in a way that leaks into
real life as we've just seen recently the other thing.
And I used to hesitate to say this, And whether
it's just agent I don't give a crap anymore, or
(03:32):
I just think it really needs to be said. No
matter what you think of quote unquote diversity or rampant immigration.
We've gone from a country that had a vast level
of an extremely high level of agreement on basic cultural
concepts to a country in which we have a bunch
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of different subgroups who say openly I don't agree with
your concept, your culture, idea of politics, or the family,
or religion, or law or violence or women or one
hundred different things. We now live in a much much
more much less homogeneous society than we used to.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
That's a huge part of it. Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I was having a conversation about the social compact with
my kids the other day. In the various ways it
displays itself, just like you know, holding the door open
for somebody, or somebody saying how you doing, you say,
I'm fine. There's like no meaning there really other than
we're we're both distributing that we're part of, you know,
polite society. Yeah, and playing by the rules. That's kind
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of what we're saying, right doing.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
And it extends to not cutting in line. Yeah, one
hundred different examples.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah, but yeah, I wonder how much of it is
the online thing, and that isn't going away. Just the
fact that the temperature is higher. The temperature is higher
all the way around. It's just higher. It's hotter in sports,
it's hotter in politics, it's hotter on your se the streets,
it's hotter in schools.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
It's just higher everywhere.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah, angsty, Well, if there's anything to do about that.
Cash Pattel, the guy who runs the FBI, is before Congress,
right answer answering questions. One interesting thing that's come out
He said they believe there were at least twenty people
on that discord at the time playing video games. Discord
(05:24):
is a talk to each other app, website, whatever the
hell it is. My kids use it sometimes you were headphones,
you know, talk to each other while you're playing video games,
he says. Cash Patel said there at least twenty people
on there when he talked about the killer talked about
taking out Charlie Cook and admitting that he did it.
Kirk Kirk, damn it twenty people? So in avance of
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the killing, you know, I didn't nail that or was
it when he confessed, I don't know which. Okay, I
have to nail that down, handsOn. If you can nail
that down, that'd be interesting because we are trying to
figure out, obviously if there was some sort of group
that had a pretty good idea that this guy was
gonna assassinate Charlie Kirk, because that would be a big
(06:09):
story obviously. Okay, So there's that, and we'll bring you
the update on that is as soon as we get it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
So Bill Maher he's better known as.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
A commentator in political pundit now than he is as
a stand up comedian. Certainly he's an old guy. It's
like seventy five years old.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Ors on them.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
He's got this show where he just interviews famous people
alone in his basement while he smokes pot and drinks,
and it's better than it sounds. It's very entertaining. I mean,
the one he did with Billy Joel the other day,
or he does politicians, or the more he drinks, the
worst it cands true true you get toward or higher
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he get. The higher he gets smoking pot, he just laughs.
He giggles for a long time. It's like, Okay, you're high.
I'm not don Unless you've ever been to a party sober,
it's like, okay, I got to get out of here.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
People are killing me. Sometimes it's that.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
But anyway, he had had Charlie Kirk on just a
couple of months ago and they had a long, great
conversation which he references here because he was taping one
with Billy Corgan, who was a singer with a group
you might not even remember, Smashing Pumpkins.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
He was.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
He was taping it the day that he got news
that Charlie Kirk had been shot. And what he has
to say about political violence and everything like that. I
think is pretty interesting here.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
It is the irony as a lot of people in
my position is still a liberal, just a traditional liberal,
not won't go along with their like a lot of
the stuff that's just crazy out there too far, which
gets Trump elected.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
As I always say to my woke friends, we voted
for the same person. You're just why she lost.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Oh God, took me a second. Sorry, i'd absorbed that.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Okay. You know, they're the people who don't want to talk.
It's my main issue with them. They and Charlie Kirk
was a guy who like he was always talking, and
I talked to him here. You know, the right wingers
say what you want about them, but they talk to you.
They're not into this leftist think that the left really
(08:20):
has much more of a I don't talk to you.
I don't want to deal with you. You're deplorable. I
can't break bread with you that attitude, And like all
the right wingers, they don't have that attitude.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
No, again, I didn't vote for them.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
And Charlie Kirk and I certainly don't agree on much politically,
but he sat here. He's a human being, he's not
a monster.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
And a husband and a father. Yes, and I liked him.
I liked them all.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
They're all nice people when you meet them in person,
and they're not as crazy as they would nobody's as
crazy as they make them out to be. We're never
going to get solved this unless it begins with both
sides agreeing we both do it.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
That's what I've been saying for a while now. Bill
Maher on his Friday night HBO show the other night,
we opened up with his monologue. He said Trump was
at a restaurant the other night and people started chanting Hitler, Hitler,
and he said that asks has got to stop. He's
not Hitler. You might not like him, but he's not Hitdler.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Let's quit with this, right they Yeah, I was just
reading a really great, thorough piece on how the left
got Trump re elected.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
That was he elected?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Yeah, that's a good point Bill Maher makes when you're
talking to woke people.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Hey, you're the ones that got Trump elected.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
Not me.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Why are you mad at me? I'm a liberal. I
voted for Gammlo.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Heirs well to a large extent, not conservatives, I mean
conservative supported Trump.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
The woke left got Trump elected, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Yeah, you know, one of the problems the left has
is the a lot of ideological energy comes from actual
neo Marxists who want to overthrow Western civilization.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
A lot of the useful idiots who.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Just go along with it because they've fallen for their
fake moral arguments aren't as died in the wool as
the activist class is. But like Bill Maher is talking about,
you know, you got Trump elected and you got to
drop the woke.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Stuff and all.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
But what he's forgetting is that that activist class, and
I don't know what percentage of the left it is,
but they're extremely active, and very smart and very aggressive.
And again, if you think I'm having some sort of
conservative fantasy, I will tell you which books they read,
or i'm sorry, which books they wrote in which they
vowed to do precisely what they're doing now in the
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way they're doing it. The problem that Bill Maher has
is he and a lot of good folks don't get
that yet they take these people at word that therefore
inclusion and diversity and equity and the rest of it,
and don't know what's behind it, including some people I'm
(11:08):
surprised haven't gotten the memo yet. But that's why I
do what to do. It's a big day for the
beard jack. What's the deal with all the beards?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Okay, so we'll get in beard talk. Let me come back.
We're gonna have our first bearded president.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
In a very long time soon.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I think there's a very good chance of it, which
is not good news for anybody who wants a female president.
Probably won't have a bearded lady as president. Our first
female president will not have a beard. I'm willing to
wage money on Wow.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Yeah, I'd go heavily at that proposition. Yes, the bearded lady,
Now I'll transgender.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
True.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
So anyway, we've got a lot of the ways there.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
A once celebrated chef known for sharing his flare for
Italian cooking online, now behind bars. He was of robbing
three banks in San Francisco in a single day.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Police day.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Just after noon on September tenth, Valentino and Lucan entered
the first bank and passed a note to the teller
demanding money and fleeing with the cash. Lucan then allegedly
targeted two more banks. He was arrested later that day,
and authority say it was tips that linked him to
the robberies. Lucan is now facing several robbery charges in
San Francisco and he's being held on two hundred thousand.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Dollars bought a prominent San Francisco area chef, which would
be a pretty good job. Rob's three banks in one day,
and it's not the first time he did it.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
He's a serial bank cropper. Wow, you gotta put him
in the kitchen in prison, right you support the heck yeah, win, win,
toss and silid Yeah, among other things. Certainly main courses
as well. New York Times. What's with all the beards?
(13:03):
More and more men seem to be putting down the razor?
Blah blah blah. This column by Vanessa Friedman. The first
part is actually kind of interesting. Jade Van's first major
party nominee on a presidential ticket with facial hair in
seventy five years. I remember talking about that at the convention.
Far from being a historical norm. According to the Popular
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Beard Blog, there have been four great beard movements in history.
The second century. We all remember that, the Middle Ages,
the Renaissance, in the late nineteenth century. We are currently
in the fifth. What then she goes into famous bearded
figures from Shakespeare to Moses.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Oh good.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
There are also Abraham Lincoln, Karl Marx and to name
a few. Nobody needs you to name a few anyway,
This woman Vanessa Friedman Jesus.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Is usually no, he's bearded.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Sometimes he was gonna say, he's usually clean shaven in paintings,
isn't he?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But no, he's bearded and often bearded.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Usually bearded, although those paintings have nothing to do with
reality whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Let's see.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Traditionally, beards have signified virility, though in the sixties and seventies,
the last Great beard Renaissance, they came to civilize rebellion
literal and cultural against the establishment. But then she gets
into the age of the beard and it's so in,
it's out. Soon there will be clean shavenness coming back,
and blah blah.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
That's interesting.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
The punk movement went was beardless. Bono talks about that
in his memoir book about how that was part of
their whole You know, we're getting rid of our dad's music,
the Beatles and all the beards. We were clean shaven.
That was like radical and we're different. Yeah, okay, good,
good for you. Any play it's just interesting. How what
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becomes radical? And then you clean shaven long enough and
now all the cool young well, oh he's now tired.
But as of a few years ago, all the cool
young baseball players musicians had beards. Because you're a rebel,
char right, and if you care what the New York
Times thinks of your beard or lack of beard, we
can't be friends.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Well, you're not a rebel. They should shut up if
you're reading.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Articles in the New York Times about whether or not
you used to have a beard when you or not punk.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Speaking of the New York Times, it was just a
day after assassin killed Charlie Kirk in cold blood on
a college campus that The New York Times published a
story in which the paper quoted a segment on Kurt's
podcast proving he was an anti Semite, and that story
ran for hours and hours.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I saw it, I read it. I was shocked. I
was like, wait a.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Minute, I didn't know this about Charlie, and I didn't
see their correction many hours later, in which they pointed out,
and I quote, an earlier version of this article described
incorrectly an anti Semitic statement that Charlie Kirk had made
on an episode of his podcast, he was quoting a
statement on social media and went on to critique it.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And refuse it was not his own statement.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Wow, nice job, most important newspaper in the world.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Good lord, how do you make a mistake like that?
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Or a day after he was murdered. I'll bet it was.
I'll bet it wasn't on purpose. It was we want
this to be true so bad you found it quickly
ran in.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yes, the writer didn't want to check, the editors didn't
want to check, or they just swallowed something out there
because they knew he was an awful person.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
He's a monster who.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Spread spread hate and division, so there's no need to
check right exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
God, that is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
He actually, in that podcast, the way you cocked an
ear for a minute, responded to anti semitism powerfully and eloquently.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
The way they ran that correction makes it seem like
we're sorry the guy that we said, uh invented the lawnmower.
We said his middle name was Thomas when it was
actually Tim. No, this is a big deal.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
On his podcast, Charlie Kirk called the Jews divisive and
and and had declared war on white people and the
rest of it. The flaming anti semite was killed the
other Now it was the opposite, the opposite.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Nice work, Armstrong and getty. Sorry, Michael, I don't know
where I saw that. I mean losing my mind out.
Probably I've never seen such a clear cutcase.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I think I'm losing my mind. Sorry about that, Michael.
I blame myself. So I got into the story. I
just saw it from NBC News. They've done a six
month investigation about herd immunity for a whole bunch of
different diseases across the country. Now they're the the the
impetus for the study and the way they want to
(17:46):
shade it. I don't like and don't agree with. It's
all about wanting to beat up on RFK Junior and
Trump and all that sort of stuff. But regardless of that,
it sounds pretty damn plausible to me, and it's in
a it's a real problem we have as a guy
who got whooping cough.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
That's why it's on my mind.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
There is a decline in people having their kids vaccinated,
no doubt, but it's small so far, but it's there.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
You add that to adults.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Who got their shots decades ago and of now they've
now worn off, which none of us think about.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
That's what the NBC.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Story talks about, right, we all think I got the
shot for whooping cough when might That's what my mom
told me when I got whooping cough. She said, well,
I got you the shot when you were a baby.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Mom. I'm sixty, but I, like, I never thought about it.
I wasn't walking.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Around thinking, man, I'm really I'm I'm rotten dirty here
on whooping cough and tetanus and all kinds of different things.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
But I'm willing to take my chances. I wasn't thinking
about it at all, and neither are you. Neither is
anybody else.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
But the percentage you need to get to mean we
all remember this a little bit from COVID, right, is
this thing called herd immunity. If you get to like
ninety five percent of people not being able to get
to a disease, it can't spread runs out of vectors,
It just just mathematically can't spread it. And we've been
at that number or higher for all these different diseases
(19:16):
for decades now, So it didn't matter that so many
adults their immunity had worn off on all these different things. Well,
now the kid number have dropped, even though it's small,
it's gone from like nobody to five percent of kids
who weren't getting inoculated depending on where you live. It's
crossed the line. And that's how I ended up with
(19:37):
whooping cough and lots of people. And you're seeing more
tuberculosis and a bunch of these different things, and that
might be a serious problem for the country. I don't
know what we do about this, other than I wonder
if adults are going to start getting measles shots and
whooping cough shots and all these different well filget boosters
(19:57):
that in the past hadn't been deemed necessary because there's
nobody to give it to you, all right, Nobody ever
told me ever that I should get a booster of
my t DAP shot that you get your kids.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Right, right, And you didn't mention immigration, but that's a
factor too. You let millions of people and NBC in
your country unvaccinated.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, you're right, NBC. NBC isn't going to mention that.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
So a chunk of that percentage is the biggest migration
in world history that happened over the last presidential term.
We won't mention the mummy who was president. Yeah, that
plays a role obviously. What's it like to be one of.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Those people like at NBC News who want to are
they willfully ignoring immigration? Have they not heard it?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Are they?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I'm picturing them saying, you know, it's probably not a
major factor, and we don't want to like give people
an excuse for racism, so we'll leave that out.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Are they just that ignorant? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It's more interesting and true, which should be your number
one goal when writing any piece. That we've crossed the
five percent who are out there able to spread it well,
the ninety five percent people that are immune for her immunity.
We've crossed that line because of three things. Fewer kids,
(21:23):
an aging population where their shots are wearing off, and
rampant immigration. But those three factors is what got us here.
Why wouldn't you report the whole thing?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
I would love to know. Seriously, it's not that hard,
so don't be surprised. I guess if doctors starts saying,
you know, you need to get your measle mump's rubella
or tetanus, diphtheria, whatever the official name is of whooping cough,
something starts with the PTEs.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I believe it's the P and T dep. You don't
want to know, and you sure don't want your baby
to have it. No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
It's worst thing. Worst disease I've ever had was whooping golf.
And if a kid had it, yeah, I'd be horrifying.
There's COVID all over the place right now. I know,
I know people with COVID now that I knew three
years ago, and it's a different beast. Now, it's a
different beast. People aren't getting the job. I'm not either,
(22:24):
and it spreads like you can't stop the spread of
it at this point.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Speaking of the mainstream media, I sat on this for
a few days and just never got to the articles,
so I now have getten away from them. But there
were pieces in both the New York Times and I
think it was Washington Post about how people were just
outraged that they and their kids didn't have access to
the COVID vaccine and their kids sometimes like, wait, what
(22:51):
what is the matter with you cultists?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Seriously? Is it like in your head? I don't know, if.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
You're old, got comorbidities, tough respiratory or cardiac situation. You know,
you're probably fine getting it. I'm not with the crowd
that thinks that, like I was. Did RFK Junior himself
say that the vaccine killed more people in the disease.
That's a bizarre and ridiculous thing to say.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I think he did say that years ago. He has
walked it back, and he did say at one point.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
But anyway, but if you're like anxious for your kids
to get a COVID vaccine.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You're a cultist.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Unless there's a special circumstance, then we're not talking about you.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Some of the testimony I think it's today actually was
going to be and they were using their sarcastic tone
on NPR somebody I don't even remember who it is.
We'll be making the claim that COVID wasn't as deadly
as officials had said. It absolutely wasn't as deadly as
officials said. They acted like your kid was at risk
(23:55):
all the time. And I don't think a single healthy
child in America died, not one in the whole country.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Correct, Yeah, how many people do that? Yeah? I know,
very frustrating.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
One other story that I can fit into the time
we got I thought this an interesting piece in the
Wall Street Journal kind of want it to be true,
kind of don't want it to be true.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
It's the idea that this.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Referendum we're gonna have November fourth in California for redistricting
is going to doom Gavin Newsom. It's an opinion piece
in the Wall Street Journal, and they just think it's
gonna take him down. He's putting all his eggs in
that basket, seems to be fighting hard. He putting out
lots of videos, giving speeches and everything like that.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It's polling horribly. And I assume you all know this story.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
It's a well, it's an attempt for Gavin Newsom to
look like the person who's the resistance to Trump so
he can become the Democratic nominee for press. But he
wants to do in California what they're doing in Texas
with the redistricting to get more Democrats. But if they
already have except they already did it years ago, but
they're going to try to squeeze a few more Democrats
(25:02):
out of the state. It's polling horribly, this ballot measure
to redistrict in the middle like this, and even sixty
percent of Democrats don't like it. So just people just
don't like it. It looks undemocratic, blah blah blah. And
this piece in the World Street Journal thinks it will
doom him that when it goes down big and he
is really you know, put a lot of oop behind it. Yeah,
(25:25):
it's gonna tank him with donors and just in the
eyes of the the experts who are talking him up.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I don't know if I agree with that or not.
And again I don't know if I want it to
be true or not.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Yeah, I would certainly like to see him brought down
and humiliated, but by other things.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Right, I it's funny.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
I had never considered him the considered the idea of
him winning the presidency. I've considered he could get the nomination.
I think if he became president, I would become so
despondent I could no longer participate in the in the country.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I would just I.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Would be I would so I would have to give
up my idea that we can govern ourselves, total loss
of will to live. I would become like Michael Malice,
where I no longer believe in democracy. I just don't
think people pay enough attention or smart enough because if
Gavin newsm gets elected, that means nobody looked into California
and what it's like.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Yeah, it's easy to spin the scenario where that happens.
So it is of sure, yeah, yeah, I mean number one,
and everybody knows this right, A very small percentage of
the electorate nominates the candidates. It's the hardest core of
you know whatever. Thirty percent of the population is a
declared Democrat at this point.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I actually think that works against it because since he's
trying to moderate getting the nomination, you'd need to be
all free transition surgeries for illegal children.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Right, Well, he has no beliefs, so he'll be able
to swing back to the left during the primaries. But
but then something happens with the Republican nominee, whether a
narrative is built that just sways enough people, a giant scandal,
a shocking health problem, Joe Biden, just something clears the
(27:19):
way because it's a binary choice.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Sure, I tell you what though, and that i'd be
depressing the comelopolics.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Pauluck Ellipse should have taught the parties.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Look, we've got to have a you know, the little
glass box with the hammer break in emergency, we've got
to at least have a protocol for we've got to
jettison the candidate. We got to put in the backup QB,
because otherwise, you know that scenario plays out. Kevin Newsom
(27:54):
is the president of the US, having earned it by
driving one of the greatest chunks of geography on Earth
straight into the sore and virtually every way economically, educationally, socially,
people leaving for the first time in its history, right right, seriously,
one of the great places on Earth.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
And oh what a nightmare that would be. I don't
know how he laughed. I laughed.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
I wouldn't know whether to, you know, take to the
ramparts or stand on my head and poop poop woulden nickels? Well,
you know, whatever you paid, you'd be overpaid.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I feel like if you stood upright and poop wood
and nickels would be quite a trick.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Just stand on your head. That does not an act.
Anybody wants to see.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
If you could play the harmonica standing on your head
and poop and would that show you close after a.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Day, I'll give you five dollars for that. Yeah, anyway,
be the whole.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Glass box breaking case of emergency. Where does that come from?
Fire alarms? Back in the day, fire alarms used to
be that way. That's right, Yeah, is that recall? They're
not that way anymore, not generally. No break, You just ask,
what's your chance of cutting yourself horribly?
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Now I'm bleeding and I'm in a f buildings burning down,
you baby, be careful and break the glass.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Okay, ay, right, So what time is it? Oh, we
probably got to take a break.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
So they dropped the terrorism charge against uh Mangioni, the
horrifying murderer. Yeah, maybe you can explain why that is
briefly beutilighted. So it'll be a talking point today, among
other things, on the way.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
The Trump administration is signaling it's close to a deal
with China over TikTok. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson saying the
US and China have reached the quote framework for a
deal TikTok own her bike Dance has until Wednesday's deadline
to sell to a US approved buyer or risk TikTok
being blocked in the US President Trump and China's president
she could announce a deal when they speak together on Friday.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
So the the version I heard of it is, they
have to rewrite the algorithm. Well, if they rewrite the algorithm,
it's a different it's not TikTok, right, I mean call TikTok,
but it's not the TikTok people love so much.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Right, They're going to rewrite the algorithm and then sell
it to a US owner.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, that's what I heard.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
It was even one of Trump's dudes explaining how it works.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Well, that reminds me of what I learned just a
few years ago that like big box hardware stores have
a different version of the product than you would get
directly from the manufacture. They give they offer a less expensive,
probably less great option to lower the price point for
(30:47):
the big box stores and this will be cut rate TikTok.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Right. Yeah, so I don't I don't quite understand that.
But no, me neither. So that's that story.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
And we're not on TikTok because it to Chinese spy
app and when the deal gets done, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Then.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Don't trust China, that's right.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Also, quickly, why did they drop the terrorism charges against
Luigi Mangioni, the scumbag murderer.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
It's because what he did in shooting the poorer healthcare
executive does not really fit the New York State definition terrorism,
which is tailored to mostly shooting multiple victims over a
clearly political end. It's just too cloudy. It'd be too
easy to lawyer him out of it. So they're just
(31:34):
going with he's cold blooded murderer.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Okay, fine with me, as long as he does never
get out. I don't care what the charges are, doesn't
make a difference me. And if you support him, you're sick.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
You are.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
And there's lots of people outside that courtroom with pro
hymn signs today, which is pretty twisted because that's a
level of political violence. Also, does this need set up
what we're about to hear? I don't want to give
anything away. It doesn't Michael, Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Here we go.
Speaker 9 (31:58):
I heard wheel and I got pulled. The alligator had
him by his AirTag and drags him and I just
puned and punched and punched, and I punched him in
the eye enough that he kind of let go, like
he unclamped a little and I pulled out, but his
teeth were like here and just drug down my arm.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Be careful with you dogs.
Speaker 9 (32:22):
You know, these alligators are no joke. I mean fifteen
feet he came out to get them.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
That's a woman who punched an alligator in the eye
to get it to release her dog who is being eaten.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Well, all's well, that ends well.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
I guess do we know where that was, Michael I
was in Florida, Hummer, the infamous sewerer Gators of Manhattan.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, you know, I'm glad it ended well.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
But as a guy who spends a fair amount of
time in the Southeast, the conventional wisdom is, if gator
gets hold of Fluffy, say goodbye to Fluffy. I would,
Otherwise you're gonna get dragged into the water and drowned.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Now I'm gonna be like that woman. I'm talking everything
in the face. Absolutely watch his leathery face. I'm gonna
stand and salute my dog. God Fluffy. My dog's not
going anywhere without a fight. Really mm hmm yeah, yeah,
I mean I say that I.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Don't have an alligator in my face actually confronting the situation.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
But no, the superheroin me thinks i'd knocked that thing out.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I actually could see you doing that, my kid, Yes,
pbably until the blessed day occurs that you are a
mom Ah yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
It does change things. That That's funny. I would have
said what you said before I had kids about the dog.
How interesting is that. I'm just saying me, Yeah, this
is true for me, doesn't need to be true for
anybody else. Before I had kids, I would have said
I would fight an alligator to save my dog.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Having kids, no, I would put my kids, but not
the dog. And again with some famil with alligators. I
will tell you there are two ways people get killed
by gaters. Mostly Number one, some oldster is gardening two
clays close and slips into a lake, and the gators
happens to be right there and says, well, I'll be
damned a meal and it's just damned unfortunate. But the
(34:17):
second thing that happens a lot is the gator gets
Fluffy and Grandma decides she's gonna save Fluffy.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Goodbye, Fluffy, goodbye.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Don't walk dogs, little dogs, especially close to lakes. And Katie,
you know the test for whether there's a gator in
a lake in like Florida, South Carolina, Georgia, Right, huh uh.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Go to the edge of the lake and put your
finger in the lake. Pull it out. If your finger
is wet, there's an effing gator in there.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Now. When I was in the Everglades, there are gators
all over the place, like right by the bike path
because they had gotten me before, i'd have been able
to get away.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Right by the bike path. No, because you look enormous
to them. Okay anyway, So ends Gator Talk Tomorrow Tigers
Speaker 1 (35:11):
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