September 17, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- Ian Sherr talks to Jack Armstrong!
- Video games online & the Lego run
- Kissing bug disease, Kash Patel hearing & the cocaine boom
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the
George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm
Strong and Jack Katie and he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I had no idea the psychological harm that a aichach
Bock could do until I saw it in my son,
and I saw his light turn dark.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
When Adam worried that we his parents would blame ourselves
if he ended his life, CHETCHPT told him that doesn't
mean you owe them survival. You don't know anyone that,
then immediately after offered to write the suicide note. In
a reckless race for profit and market share, they treated
my son's life as collateral damage.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Holy crap. I had not heard that. We've talked a
couple of different times about stories over the last God,
it's only weeks. Really, chat GPT hasn't been around that long,
but AI chat bought phenomenon of various people being talked
into harming themselves, maybe killing themselves. Having a conversation with
(01:16):
an AI bought chat GPT said you don't know your parents,
your anything, and I'll help you write the suicide note.
Holy crap. Anyway to talk about a few different tech things.
We'd like to welcome to the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Ian Share of CBS News, a tech contributor. How are
you today, Ian?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I'm doing all right.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah? So I know one of the things you're on
is trying to come up with some sort of parental
controls for some of these tech entities. How do you
like our chances?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well. Part of the struggle with all of this is
that we are dealing with this larger question of how
technology impacts young minds, right, and that is something that
we've been struggling with with social media now for quite
a while, and we've questioned for a long time with
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many different types of technology. And then on top of that,
we are now learning that chatbots, these AI things that
are supposedly changing the world, do not respond well to
people in mental distress. And that's particularly scary for children
because we understand that teenagers often are struggling with that
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as a result of going through the natural motions of
being a teenager, and also because their parents may not
be aware of how they're using these tools. So Open Ai,
the company that makes chat GPT, has been asked by
the Federal Trade Commission to kind of reveal some of
the data around children and chat eept, and they are
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doing that. But in the meantime, the company has also
said that it's building these parental controls where parent will
be able to set some sort of rules and disable
either certain features of the chatbot or even have black
at hours right, so they can't the team supposedly can't
use it during certain times of the day. But as
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you and I know, and as many of us have experienced,
You know, I wasn't really supposed to watch Beavis and
butthead when it was on TV, and somehow I got
away with that, And so there is a larger question
of what are the larger issues that we tackle beyond
having some of these parental controls that may or may
not work.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, it's so tough as a parent. It's funny. I've
been encouraging I've got two teenagers, a thirteen year old
to fifteen year old, and I was actually encouraging them
to because I use chat GPT all the time, and
as encouragement because oh, you got to get this. It's
so handy for asking questions about this or that. I
hadn't even thought about the you know, the scary stuff
if you know, one of them has a breakup with
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their girlfriend and they start asking for advice, and it's
they start getting crazy advice from this you know, non
human that's troubling well, and.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
And part of it is the way these things are designed.
They are really meant to kind of be agreeable with us.
And that works great when you're at it to help
you write an email to your boss, right, But when
you're in a deep conversation, this is another thing they've learned,
just that the deeper the conversation goes, and the longer
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it goes, the more likely that the chatbot is going
to start saying what we would consider crazy things.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I don't know if you have. I don't know if
you've done this or not, but we all have here
on the radio show, ask for like some advice with
like a difficult question with parenting a kid, and been
blown away by how good some of the advice was
from chat GPT, Like, wow, that's as good as any
therapist I've ever talked to.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
But and there's a lot of research out there that
shows that in anecdotal and small bits, chatchypt can be
helpful with some of these things, right, And there's actually research. Again,
it's not scientific, it doesn't really fully go into it,
but it's shown that you know, some people who are
having like a tough day of work, and you and
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I do this when we're texting our friends. We're like, ah,
I'm having such a tough day at work, right, But
they send it to chatgypt instead and it gives back
a pretty good response. But the problem again is when
you get into these really deep, long conversations where most
humans would kind of be like, you know, I think
you need to talk to a professional. That's when chatchipt
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doesn't stop, and instead it seems as though it actually
starts to get worse and worse and giving you responses
that honestly most of us would never accept.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Wow, that is really interesting, you know, on a slightly
different topic, but also relating to kids in tech. Several
of us here and you've probably heard this, had the
experience of on was it last Thursday or Wednesday that
Charlie Kirk was murdered. I had the experience of picking
up our kids from school, thinking we were going to
(06:15):
tell them about this tragic event, and them saying, oh,
I've seen all the videos. I've seen the close up
video of the blood squirting out of his neck. My
high school kid had seen it. The video that I
haven't watched yet because I didn't think I wanted to
see it. My kid had watched over and over again
because it was on YouTube for Twitter or wherever you watched.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Well, and this is part of the struggle that we've
been having with moderation and social media, especially since the
twenty sixteen election. There have been all these kind of
back and forth conversations about how much moderation should there be,
concerns about free speech and all sorts of other things,
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and so a number of the social media companies, particularly
x right, which is on by Elon Musk formerly Twitter,
have taken the position that if it's not illegal, then
it should be allowed to post.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Well.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
As unfortunate as it is, a picture of someone being
shot is not illegal to have out there. And that's
part of why these things have proliferated so much. More
is that a lot of the social media companies and
tech companies who have been under pressure, frankly from Washing
ADC not to moderate their platforms have given in and
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have said, Okay, we're going to allow anything that's allowed
under free speech. Practically and that's where we are now.
It's not surprising.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I can make the argument. Lots of people could make
the argument why that's a good thing as long as
it's adults, as long as it's adults who decide whether
they want to see it or not. But if kids
are looking at it, that's a problem.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
We're back to the rock and roll debate, right who
should be playing what on the radio? And and honestly,
this is a I mean, this is a thing that
we've constantly done with as a society. And the thing,
you know, I covered the video game industry for a
long time for the Wall Street Journal, and the conversation
constantly was, look that the parents need to be in
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the loop. Regardless. We can create all the laws and
rules we want, but if the parents aren't having a
conversation with their kids about what they're seeing, it's not
going to mean anything. And I think that's what this
is going to turn into ultimately, because the free speech
advocates typically win, right because the law is the law, sure,
and we want to We want the free exchange of ideas,
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regardless of the of the pain it might cause sometimes,
So I could.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Talk to you about this all day long, because I
think it's so damned interesting, but I wanted to get
you find out some of the details on TikTok. I
was just reading. So CNBC says, the TikTok deal that
Trump's working out with President she who he's going to
talk to on Friday, the algorithm is going to state
more or less the same. But then the Wall Street
Journal said, no, it's going to be a different algorithm.
And my question is, if TikTok has a different algorithm,
(08:59):
it's not TikTok. You can call it TikTok. What is
not TikTok? Isn't that right?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Yeah, we don't know the specifics, unfortunately, and part of
that is because of the way that this deal is
being structured, and also because of the kind of way
that the White House has decided to roll this out. Right,
there was one of another one of those deadlines that
President Trumps set was actually expiring today. And you know,
(09:25):
on top of that, technically, by law, TikTok's been banned
in this country since January of last year. We just
haven't enforced that law, and so it's really hard to
tell what's going to be. But you raise a very
important point, which is that you know a lot of this.
The reason that Washington, DC has taken a one to
eighty on it, right, And originally Trump was trying to
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ban TikTok, and that was five years ago, was because
it was supposedly a national security threat. And it is
now realizing that a lot of young voters would be upset,
they're saying, eh, well, okay, we're going to try and
make it.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Not be And do you have TikTok on your phone?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
So? I do have TikTok on my phone, but I
very rarely open it. I watch. You know, part of
what's funny about TikTok is that most of the videos
now get shared on Instagram and YouTube and all that
other stuff. So I feel like I'm on top of
TikTok even though I'm not opening it very often.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah. So I do think TikTok is a national security
threat and horrified that the Communist Chinese Party gets to
have so much influence over what our young people see.
Then it gets complicated after that with free speech and
blah blah blah, all the different things. But I too
have I don't have it on my phone, but I've
almost wanted to just so I can because it's such
a huge news story. I felt like I ought to
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be able to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, And I mean, honestly, this is part of the
struggle of the world we live in. Right. It's so
when it comes to the Internet, everything is everywhere, and
the reality is that we've really benefited from the last
couple of decades where the United States companies broadly have
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been the dominant force on the Internet, and that's starting
to change. Right, is an example of that.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Right, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Is, Yeah, this is really much more of an existential conversation.
And yes, there is a national security part. It's worth
noting in five years the government has failed to show
us anything publicly, including when they've been demanded by courts.
They've never shown anything to us that proofs that there's
a national security threat. So we're just having to take
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them at their word. But it is notable that that
the president.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Right, both administrations believe it was a national security threat though, right, yes.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Oh yes, absolutely, But it's notable that the person who
started it is now trying.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
To back up. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll tell
you what. I don't know if this was on your
radar or not. Maybe it was, but it was a
moment for a lot of parents this past week when
they picked up their kids at school. I've talked to
multiple people had exactly the same experience. You pick up
your kid from school and you find out that they
watched that horrifying video that you thought you were going
to delicately tell your kids about. That's that's something.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
In something And the reality is that most of what
we've learned over the last couple of decades now is
that a lot of those parental controls that we thought
might work on computers just don't. And we're at this
situation where really we have an entire generation a couple
of generations now that have very open access to information
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on the internet, and again, right, we believe in free
speech and everything. What you're seeing is that the response
to this has been a much heavier hand. In some cases,
a number of states have passed laws now, for example,
requiring actual age verification in order to access pornography websites, right,
and there's a there's there's talk about trying to do
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that with social media, and in fact in Australia that
is all already being done with AI chatbots in Australia.
They're starting to set rules saying you have to verify
your you're eighteen or older in order to use a chatbox,
and so that might be where things end up if
this issue does not somehow resolve itself.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
That's interesting stuff and it's going to be a topic
around for a long time. I hope we can talk
to you again in the future. And that was really good.
Oh absolutely, CBS News Tech contributor Ian Share s h
E R R Share Sure. Anyway, he was good. I
liked him. I liked talking to him. I'm almost nihilistic
on this topic. I just don't think there's any way
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we're going to the age verification. What you click a
box that says I promise I'm eighteen. I mean, how
are you going to do anything beyond that? Really? Any
who got a lot more on the way stay here.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
Shock so that David Busser's sales have declined again and
the company is really struggling. It's not good with David Busters.
I mean, we're you going to disappoint a woman on.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
A first date. So you think that's got a greater
social significance their Michael, in what way.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
Has everybody play stuff? Online.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
I just know that when I was younger, i'd meet
my friends of the arcades and that's what you did.
You played the big stand up pac Mans and stuff
like that. And now it's everything is online and you
don't invite people over to play video games anymore. It's
just you're in two separate houses and that's it interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, that's funny. When I was I'm old, But so
when I was younger, video games did pretty much always
mean people playing together because there was no technology to
do it any other way. It was very common like
when I was in college, and after twenty somethings, Now, yeah,
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you got a headset on and you're playing with other
people who may be murderers. In the case of that
scumbag in Utah. Not to bring everything back to that story,
but they say it is more than two twenty people
on that discord when he admitted that he shot. That's something.
But that's one of the things I worry about with
my kids, obviously, speaking attacking teenage barriers and all that
sort of stuff. You don't know who that that heck
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at your your kid is talking to on video games.
I tell my kids if it ever strays from anything
other than specifically about the game. Do you know, don't
don't don't take the bait whether it's nice here, what's
it like where you live? Where do you live again, Henry?
You know that sort of thing. Yeah, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 9 (15:33):
Well there's this there's this trend going on right now
on TikTok where kids are showing off their college dorms.
But they're showing the entrance to the school. They're showing
the hallway, they are showing what the front door of
their dorm looks like. They are showing the layout of
their dorm. And it's just like, why don't you just
put your address on the internet?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Right, I just say something on the t on the TV.
I'm gonna have to do a little research on here.
A woman set a new record for the fifty meter
lego barefoot lego run.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
So they took looked like a high school track and
they laid out legos, thick layer of legos all along
the track and then she ran barefoot and sprinted down
the thing and set a.
Speaker 10 (16:21):
New record for the one hundred meters. It was one
hundred meters.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
That's a long leg Any parent that's done it, one
lego one time is plenty. Running one hundred meters barefoot
on legos seems well kind of stupid.
Speaker 10 (16:36):
How do you wake up and go?
Speaker 9 (16:37):
You know what I'm gonna do today, I'm gonna run
across one hundred meters one hundred meters of lego, so well.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
To see how fast I can do it. Compare myself
to other people who have done the same thing, which
nobody's ever thought of. So there was quite a hearing
yesterday in Congress with the FBI director getting yelled at
by Democrats, and its conflict and people like conflicts. So
we play a little conflict when we come back and
talk about some other stuff too that will fit in
if you miss a segment an hour. There's been some
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great guests on today, and if you haven't heard it all,
you should look for the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Corey Booker, who loves to get into it with various people,
Democratic Senator and Cash Mattel yelling at each other. That's
what's on the way Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 11 (17:20):
We're actually talking about is something known as Chagas a
lot of people may not have heard of this, no surprise,
because it's mostly been relegated to the tropics for a
long time, but as the weather has gotten warmer, it's
moved from rural Mexico and Central America and South America
into the United States. There's about two hundred and eighty
thousand people they estimate, in the United States that have chaugus,
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but only about one percent of people actually know it.
It's called the kissing disease because these bugs, which are
about a half inch to an inch long, typically bite
people on the face and then they leave a parasite
and then that itches, so people scratch and they sort
of embed that parasite into their skin and that causes
the infection.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
How are there a quarter of a million people who've
had a one inch bug on their face? Ever that
bites them and gives them this parasite and they and
they don't most of them don't know.
Speaker 9 (18:13):
It, and it makes your face itch, so you scratch
it and it spreads.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't I would think I would know that.
Speaker 9 (18:20):
Yeah, it's all it's along all of the southern uh
the States with our southern border too, because it's coming
up from there.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I rarely have one inch bugs on my face to
start with.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
I can't.
Speaker 9 (18:37):
I can't think of the last time I welcome to
one inch bug onto my face.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
And then if I start to itch and scratch and
I see it's spreading all around my head, I would
go ahead and ask a doctor something.
Speaker 8 (18:48):
And maybe maybe twice a year.
Speaker 9 (18:51):
Michael, be careful. I wonder how long it takes for
it to put that little parasite in there? Does it
have to like hang out there for a minute. I
don't I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I don't like these new diseases that are crossing our
border anyway. So that's that story. And you can't call
it the kissing disease. There is a kissing disease. It's mononucleus.
Mononucleosis is the kissing disease, or at least they used
to call it that in the old days. I had
mono twice in my life. It's horrible. You're you're supposed
to only be able to get it once, but I
had it twice because I'm special. So this was yesterday
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hearing they had in Congress. The FBI director who Democrats hate,
Cash Pattel, was up there being grilled and in this
case by Senator Corey Booker, who's one of the all
time Grand standard. I'm gonna get on cable news of
all the senators asking questions. I got to make sure
my clip makes the news, and it did, and it
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does again on our show Here we go. Thank you,
mister Shiv.
Speaker 12 (19:44):
Do you want to say.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Oh, let me let me start this again real quick
or you can stop it there? Uh Court Bookerry had
just done a really really long rant about not digging
cash Ptel in his act and all the different sorts
of things stuff like that, and then the one hundred
and forty five year old grass Lea, the chair gave
the FBI director a chance to respond.
Speaker 13 (20:09):
Brand a false information does not bring this country together.
If you want to work on bringing this country, it's
my time, not yours.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
My god, my god.
Speaker 10 (20:18):
If you want to talk about.
Speaker 14 (20:20):
Biding this country, it is find you on your social
media post time you try all in this country.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Okay. So that's that's that's that's good stuff. That's good
stuff right there. That's that's But it's hard to imagine
that Congress is ever going to pass legislation to change
the structure of hearings because they must feel that they
benefit from it somehow. But the televised hearings are worthless.
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I don't know if they ever accomplish anything, but anyway,
let's let's get back to it.
Speaker 14 (21:01):
Oh this committee, sir, you don't tell me my time
is over. You'll tell me what my time is. You
can't lecture me, you can tell her time.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
May the charge. I am, mister Chairman, not afraid of you,
Mister Chairman, point of.
Speaker 12 (21:17):
Order, Senator Booker. I announced at the beginning of this
meeting that this back and forth talking over each other
doesn't work, and I said, if that happened, I asked
Patel not to respond, and I was going to give
him some time after the Senator's time was up to respond.
And that's he has the privilege to do that uninterrupted,
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mister Chairman Aster, I've watched him talk over us, and
you've never once criticized him for us not even be
able to get our questions.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Out about he has been.
Speaker 14 (21:48):
Really disrespectful to Senator.
Speaker 12 (21:50):
Senator, and when the senators were not giving him a
chance to answer, I didn't stop the senator either. Go ahead, sir,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Message.
Speaker 13 (22:00):
If the FBI under my seven month leadership were failing
this administration to this country, why do we have twenty
three thousand violent felons arrested this year alone, a twenty
two hundred excuse me, a double increase from that time
last year. Why is it that we have seeded six
thousand weapons? Why have we found fifteen hundred child predators
and arrest them? Why have we have three hundred human
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traffickers in jail? Why have we found and identified forty
seven hundred children? Why have we seen sixteen hundred kilograms
of fentanyl enough to kill a third of the American public?
A twenty five percent increase alone from last year. Eighty
eight thousand kilograms of cocaine seas, seventy hundred kilograms of
mets sees. And that's just on our criminal operations in
summer heat. How is it possible that we're taking eight
(22:44):
kilograms off the streets of the cities in New Jersey Point.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
So that was that, and that's what usually happens. And
Chuck Grassley, the chair, I happened to be on his side.
Of course, he was there when Charles Sumner got caned.
Google it and he remembers how divisive things can get
speaking of fentanyl. Wanted to bring this up Wall Street
Journal with the story out today. Actually it was about
this guy. You should probably get to know his name.
El signor Mencho. Sennor Mencho is now the number one
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drug cartel leader in all the world. Cocaine, not fentanyl,
not meth not whatever else. Cocaine. America loves cocaine again,
says the Wall Street Journal. And Mexico's knew drug king
Cash is in. So the Trump administration's warren fentanyl has worked.
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And part of it is just getting the news out
in the United States that fentanyl's really, really dangerous, so
people don't do fentanyl, and cocaine is back, and in
particular this cocaine from this guy, because it says here,
cocaine sold in the United States is now cheaper and
as pure as ever for retail buyers. So it's super cheap,
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and it's from a source that you can count on
until you can't for it to be pure and not
have any fentanyl in it that's going to kill you.
Listen to this stat consumption in the Western United States
has increased one hundred and fifty four percent since twenty nineteen.
Also it is that's an explosion. And I'll tell you
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what that it mostly is. I think I don't know
this but I would guess what says here for new users,
cocaine doesn't carry the stigma of fentl addiction. Yeah, the
stigma of fentyl addiction is on display in the West
Coast the way it's not the rest of the country.
If you live in San Francisco, La, San Diego, Portland, Seattle,
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you see these drug casualties on the street every single day.
Kind of turns you off the whole fentanyl thing. Most
of those people aren't doing pure cocaine, is what you're
thinking to yourself. And I gotta believe that's got a
lot to do with people switching from whatever drugs. Lands
you in a cardboard box, screaming at a fire hydrant
that you see on the streets of La or all
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those other cities, and you turn away from those drugs.
I'll bet that's it. Yeah, we've got the display of
not the cocaine can't ruin your life. I personally know
of it. A number of people who have ruined their
lives with that particular drug. But man, that's quite the
explosion of it. So now, hey, yay, Now I get
to talk to my kids about this. Another thing to
talk to my kids about, and worry about. Added to
the list, added to the list. Yes, we will finish strong,
(25:23):
next strong. Before we get to a mom explaining to
her daughter that knows she is not a boy. This
first front page of USA Today today, raising recruits to
meet standards. It's all about how the US Army, as
we reported a lot several years ago, was falling horrifyingly
(25:49):
short of the recruitment goals to have people join the army,
and that ain't good for all kinds of obvious reasons.
And now they are doing great. The Army clinched its
recruiting goal of fifty five thousand in the last fiscal year,
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and this year four months early that it had met
its annual goal of sixty one thousand way before the
end of the year. So it barely made it last year,
and then this year it already hit the goal in
the middle of the year and is going to surpass
that now. Pete Hegzath and Donald Trump say that's because
young men are way more likely to join the army
(26:31):
under Trump as president under Joe Biden. I think that's
obviously true. I mean, you look at the way young
men voted in this country as a whole, look at
the way young men are responding to Charlie Kirk being assassinated.
That crowd is huge on the MAGA right, and they're
way more likely to join the army in the military
when Trump's president than under a Democrat, specifically Biden. I
(26:53):
don't think there's any question of that whatsoever USA today.
I said that could be a factor, Okay, I think
it's probably a pretty big factor. I also want to
mention this not surprising ram Ford. It's Stalantis or ram
is Dodge. Stalantis is a company that owns Dodge. They're
(27:13):
pulling the plug on the all electric RAM fifteen hundred.
They were gonna build it in twenty twenty four, then
it got delayed to twenty five, then it got pushed
off to twenty six, then it was moved to twenty seven,
and now they've announced we ain't gonna make it at all.
So they're just in Is it stated there is not
a demand for a full sized battery electric truck. I'm
(27:34):
surprised Ford's still making the lightning. People are not near
as into electric vehicles as the lefties had hoped, And
certainly when you pull the plug on the tax payer
funded discounts, you realize that's how it works, right, If
you get a tax rebate of seventy five hundred dollars,
you and I are pulling our money to help somebody
(27:54):
else buy an electric car. Why would I do that? Yeah,
that's a good cause. I'm glad I gave it a charity.
Uh you getting to drive an electric car? So anyway,
yet another major automaker in the United States saying electric
thing ain't working out? Okay, So now what do I
need to know about this clip?
Speaker 9 (28:11):
This is a captured from an in home security camera.
And this little girl that you hear talking is maybe
three years old, and she proclaims to her mom that
she is a boy. And mom sets that straight real quick.
Speaker 14 (28:24):
I'm a boy, and these may do a girl.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
So you are a girl.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
That's what you're meant to be.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Only ever be finished. Emmy, that's correct.
Speaker 14 (28:43):
I am.
Speaker 10 (28:46):
Thank you. Say you love the body that you just
gave you and give you inside of a girl.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah, said, dad's a boy.
Speaker 9 (28:58):
And she goes, that's right, and she goes, the body
that Jesus gave you is that of a girl.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
A three year old doesn't have any idea what they're
talking about.
Speaker 9 (29:08):
Well, I should also note that this little girl was
looking at I couldn't tell if it was a laptop
or an iPad because it was a little blurry, but
she was on some form of a computer screen.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Has this mom been doxed yet by people who think
she ought to have her kids taken away from her
or something like that.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
I didn't see it, but I wouldn't be surprised. Boy,
that's you know, that's a real thing, though.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
I mean, they are.
Speaker 9 (29:35):
You know, my friend just put her daughter into kindergarten
and she's really worried that one of these days her
daughter's going to come home and say something along those
lines because of how early this is starting in schools.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, it's difficult to have a conversation about anything that
means anything with a three year old, five year old
you can start to definitely, yeah, and yeah, well I've
seen it in my schools, my kids' schools. So my
son had another big a boy scout event last night.
This was what they call a court of Honor, and
they do it a couple of times a year, I guess.
And when you move up and rank, they have this
(30:08):
big get together and the parents go and we had
a pot luck ahead of time, and then we meet
and they do the flag ceremony and all that sort
of stuff, and the parents go up with the kid
and they get their next rank and they put a
pin on the parent and it's really really cool. Like everything.
I've said this now for however many months that my
son's been in Scouting, I couldn't be more impressed. I
think it's really great for young men. Girls can be
(30:29):
in boy Scouts too. I've seen lots of girls that
are not lots, but I've seen girls that are in Scouts,
including Eagle Scouts, if you want to do that as
a parent of a young girl. But I couldn't be
happier about it for because they're just so few up
with young men. Sorts of things out there anywhere in
our country, certainly not in our schools. And I loved
(30:49):
seeing this. But for the pot luck, they sent out
this sign up genius thing for choices you could make,
and I thought about, like going with the souper are
easy bread rolls, you know, but I know I just
don't snapkins, yeah exactly. I just thought that was kind
(31:11):
of baling on your responsibility. So I checked off one
of the meats and went with chicken. I've never cooked
chicken in my entire life, not one time, not one
tiny piece of chicken have I ever attempted to cook?
Speaker 10 (31:23):
What are you serious?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
You've never got serious? Yeah? Oh my gosh, why would
I cook a piece of chicken. I like beef, I
cook hamburgers and steak. But okay, I just never cooked
a piece of chicken. My First of all, I find
chickens always too dry. Every time I have chicken anywhere,
it's always too dry. I just I'm never that pleased
with chicken. Okay, But yes, Michael, you.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
Gotta cook it slow so it doesn't dry out.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Is that the thing? Yes? So Omaha Steaks who we endorse.
They have really really high quality stuff, and I eat
their burgers and their steaks and the apple tarts and
all kinds of stuff. I do not eat the chicken,
usually because I don't cook chicken. As I have previously stated,
I usually give away the very very delicious chicken to
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like other people.
Speaker 10 (32:12):
You take it over to your neighbor and say, hey,
I bought this for you.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Right, see a previous episode about that. But so I
finally decided to cook all these chicken breasts, and we
went on chat GPT and asked all kinds of questions,
and my son watched some YouTube videos about parchment paper
and made a little glaze thing to put on it
and all this different sort of stuff, and we, oh, yeah,
we baked it okay. And we went to the storm
(32:38):
and bought stuff. I even got a meat thermometer, which
I've never owned in my life. I now own a
meat thermometer at age sixty, and gives me a better
shot at getting a.
Speaker 10 (32:46):
Things are happening here, focks yeah, I'll.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Help give me a better shot at Sometimes we cut
into our burgers and they're well done, which I hate.
That's ruins a burger, or they're just so gooey raw
that like you have to throw them back on the grill.
You just can't possibly stommach it. And I'm just, you know,
I don't know eyeballing it. So now I gotta meet
tomorm Ary, very very cool. When we cooked the chicken
and everything, and it took a lot longer than I
(33:08):
thought I thought it would, but it turned out pretty
damn good. It turned out pretty good, and with a
little barbecue sauce somebody, it was fine. And I thought
we had one of the better things there certainly homemade things.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
There.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
There were people that brought pizzas from a pizza plus.
That's nice, that's fine. People love pizza. That's all good.
It just seems like a cheating at a potluck.
Speaker 10 (33:26):
To me, I'm having like a proud mom moment. Jack,
you baked some chicken.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Henry mostly did, yes, but he did, he baked some chicken.
But there isn't it a cheating at a pot luck
to bring something straight from a store. It might what
you brought might be the tastiest thing because it's straight
from a store or the pizza place, zero effort. It
just seems like cheating there.
Speaker 9 (33:47):
Yeah, I get that you're supposed to make something for
a potluck.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
One of the boy scouts who's a team made a
tater tot castle role, which is such a teenage boy
sort of thing to make awesome. It was pretty good.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Though.
Speaker 15 (34:00):
I have some final thoughts, and some people say they
are the greatest final thoughts they've ever heard. But if
you look at what's happening, I would have to say
Armstrong and Getty have some wonderful final thoughts. They are
right up there with Abraham Lincoln and everybody knows it.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Somebody did bring a big giant pie from Costco, which
I did not complain about because I has some good pie.
Let's hand it over to our host for final thoughts.
Speaker 11 (34:29):
Me.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I'm your host. Joe is not here. He's playing golf
and it's some fancy, fancy golf course in the Monterey.
Here's our technical director, Michael Angelo. Do you have a
final thought for U?
Speaker 8 (34:36):
Steah? My final thought is Jack.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
I've worked with you for let's see, more than about
twenty six years, now, is that possible?
Speaker 8 (34:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (34:44):
But the fact that you haven't cooked chicken in twenty
six years, I just I find that troubling.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
I don't know why.
Speaker 10 (34:51):
In my whole life, I can't any sixty years.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I've never even considered it. It's never even crossed my mind.
Here is our newsperson, Katie Katie the news Lady, Katie Green.
What do you got there, Katie?
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Well?
Speaker 10 (35:04):
Was I can get my brain back together?
Speaker 9 (35:06):
I was thinking about that chick that was running on
Legos and yesterday I stepped on a pebble maybe the
size of my pinky fingernail, and I lost my ass.
Speaker 10 (35:16):
It hurts so bad.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Well, yeah, that's the weird thing like the smaller, the worse.
Oh that is something. Yeah, there is a video out
there of a woman running the one hundred yard dash barefoot
on Legos that we can post twenty five seconds at
Armstrong in Giddy dot com. And my final thought is
we got a bunch of great guests today and if
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you missed any segment you should check them out. The
podcast is Armstrong in Getty on demand. I mean, there
are some really good conversations about politics, the economy, about tech,
about the law and justice with Katie's dad, the former judge,
So a lot of good stuff. Check out the podcast
Armstrong and Getdy. Wrapping up another brewling four hour workday.
We will see tomorrow. God bless America. I'm Strong and Getty.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
I had no idea the psychological harm that a aichach
Bock could do until I saw it in my son,
and I saw his light turn dark.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
When Adam worried that we his parents would blame ourselves
if he ended his life, CHETCHPT told him that doesn't
mean you owe them survival. You don't know anyone that,
then immediately after offered to write the suicide note. In
a reckless race for profit and market share, they treated
my son's life as collateral damage.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Holy crap. I had not heard that. We've talked a
couple of different times about stories over the last God,
it's only weeks. Really, chat GPT hasn't been around that long,
but AI chat bought phenomenon of various people being talked
into harming themselves, maybe killing themselves. Having a conversation with
(01:16):
an AI bought chat GPT said you don't know your parents,
your anything, and I'll help you write the suicide note.
Holy crap. Anyway to talk about a few different tech things.
We'd like to welcome to the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Ian Share of CBS News, a tech contributor. How are
you today, Ian?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I'm doing all right.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah? So I know one of the things you're on
is trying to come up with some sort of parental
controls for some of these tech entities. How do you
like our chances?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well. Part of the struggle with all of this is
that we are dealing with this larger question of how
technology impacts young minds, right, and that is something that
we've been struggling with with social media now for quite
a while, and we've questioned for a long time with
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many different types of technology. And then on top of that,
we are now learning that chatbots, these AI things that
are supposedly changing the world, do not respond well to
people in mental distress. And that's particularly scary for children
because we understand that teenagers often are struggling with that
(02:36):
as a result of going through the natural motions of
being a teenager, and also because their parents may not
be aware of how they're using these tools. So Open Ai,
the company that makes chat GPT, has been asked by
the Federal Trade Commission to kind of reveal some of
the data around children and chat eept, and they are
(02:59):
doing that. But in the meantime, the company has also
said that it's building these parental controls where parent will
be able to set some sort of rules and disable
either certain features of the chatbot or even have black
at hours right, so they can't the team supposedly can't
use it during certain times of the day. But as
(03:22):
you and I know, and as many of us have experienced,
You know, I wasn't really supposed to watch Beavis and
butthead when it was on TV, and somehow I got
away with that, And so there is a larger question
of what are the larger issues that we tackle beyond
having some of these parental controls that may or may
not work.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, it's so tough as a parent. It's funny. I've
been encouraging I've got two teenagers, a thirteen year old
to fifteen year old, and I was actually encouraging them
to because I use chat GPT all the time, and
as encouragement because oh, you got to get this. It's
so handy for asking questions about this or that. I
hadn't even thought about the you know, the scary stuff
if you know, one of them has a breakup with
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their girlfriend and they start asking for advice, and it's
they start getting crazy advice from this you know, non
human that's troubling well, and.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
And part of it is the way these things are designed.
They are really meant to kind of be agreeable with us.
And that works great when you're at it to help
you write an email to your boss, right, But when
you're in a deep conversation, this is another thing they've learned,
just that the deeper the conversation goes, and the longer
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it goes, the more likely that the chatbot is going
to start saying what we would consider crazy things.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I don't know if you have. I don't know if
you've done this or not, but we all have here
on the radio show, ask for like some advice with
like a difficult question with parenting a kid, and been
blown away by how good some of the advice was
from chat GPT, Like, wow, that's as good as any
therapist I've ever talked to.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
But and there's a lot of research out there that
shows that in anecdotal and small bits, chatchypt can be
helpful with some of these things, right, And there's actually research. Again,
it's not scientific, it doesn't really fully go into it,
but it's shown that you know, some people who are
having like a tough day of work, and you and
(05:21):
I do this when we're texting our friends. We're like, ah,
I'm having such a tough day at work, right, But
they send it to chatgypt instead and it gives back
a pretty good response. But the problem again is when
you get into these really deep, long conversations where most
humans would kind of be like, you know, I think
you need to talk to a professional. That's when chatchipt
(05:42):
doesn't stop, and instead it seems as though it actually
starts to get worse and worse and giving you responses
that honestly most of us would never accept.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Wow, that is really interesting, you know, on a slightly
different topic, but also relating to kids in tech. Several
of us here and you've probably heard this, had the
experience of on was it last Thursday or Wednesday that
Charlie Kirk was murdered. I had the experience of picking
up our kids from school, thinking we were going to
(06:15):
tell them about this tragic event, and them saying, oh,
I've seen all the videos. I've seen the close up
video of the blood squirting out of his neck. My
high school kid had seen it. The video that I
haven't watched yet because I didn't think I wanted to
see it. My kid had watched over and over again
because it was on YouTube for Twitter or wherever you watched.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Well, and this is part of the struggle that we've
been having with moderation and social media, especially since the
twenty sixteen election. There have been all these kind of
back and forth conversations about how much moderation should there be,
concerns about free speech and all sorts of other things,
(06:54):
and so a number of the social media companies, particularly
x right, which is on by Elon Musk formerly Twitter,
have taken the position that if it's not illegal, then
it should be allowed to post.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Well.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
As unfortunate as it is, a picture of someone being
shot is not illegal to have out there. And that's
part of why these things have proliferated so much. More
is that a lot of the social media companies and
tech companies who have been under pressure, frankly from Washing
ADC not to moderate their platforms have given in and
(07:29):
have said, Okay, we're going to allow anything that's allowed
under free speech. Practically and that's where we are now.
It's not surprising.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I can make the argument. Lots of people could make
the argument why that's a good thing as long as
it's adults, as long as it's adults who decide whether
they want to see it or not. But if kids
are looking at it, that's a problem.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
We're back to the rock and roll debate, right who
should be playing what on the radio? And and honestly,
this is a I mean, this is a thing that
we've constantly done with as a society. And the thing,
you know, I covered the video game industry for a
long time for the Wall Street Journal, and the conversation
constantly was, look that the parents need to be in
(08:11):
the loop. Regardless. We can create all the laws and
rules we want, but if the parents aren't having a
conversation with their kids about what they're seeing, it's not
going to mean anything. And I think that's what this
is going to turn into ultimately, because the free speech
advocates typically win, right because the law is the law, sure,
and we want to We want the free exchange of ideas,
(08:32):
regardless of the of the pain it might cause sometimes,
So I could.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Talk to you about this all day long, because I
think it's so damned interesting, but I wanted to get
you find out some of the details on TikTok. I
was just reading. So CNBC says, the TikTok deal that
Trump's working out with President she who he's going to
talk to on Friday, the algorithm is going to state
more or less the same. But then the Wall Street
Journal said, no, it's going to be a different algorithm.
And my question is, if TikTok has a different algorithm,
(08:59):
it's not TikTok. You can call it TikTok. What is
not TikTok? Isn't that right?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Yeah, we don't know the specifics, unfortunately, and part of
that is because of the way that this deal is
being structured, and also because of the kind of way
that the White House has decided to roll this out. Right,
there was one of another one of those deadlines that
President Trumps set was actually expiring today. And you know,
(09:25):
on top of that, technically, by law, TikTok's been banned
in this country since January of last year. We just
haven't enforced that law, and so it's really hard to
tell what's going to be. But you raise a very
important point, which is that you know a lot of this.
The reason that Washington, DC has taken a one to
eighty on it, right, And originally Trump was trying to
(09:47):
ban TikTok, and that was five years ago, was because
it was supposedly a national security threat. And it is
now realizing that a lot of young voters would be upset,
they're saying, eh, well, okay, we're going to try and
make it.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Not be And do you have TikTok on your phone?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
So? I do have TikTok on my phone, but I
very rarely open it. I watch. You know, part of
what's funny about TikTok is that most of the videos
now get shared on Instagram and YouTube and all that
other stuff. So I feel like I'm on top of
TikTok even though I'm not opening it very often.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah. So I do think TikTok is a national security
threat and horrified that the Communist Chinese Party gets to
have so much influence over what our young people see.
Then it gets complicated after that with free speech and
blah blah blah, all the different things. But I too
have I don't have it on my phone, but I've
almost wanted to just so I can because it's such
a huge news story. I felt like I ought to
(10:41):
be able to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, And I mean, honestly, this is part of the
struggle of the world we live in. Right. It's so
when it comes to the Internet, everything is everywhere, and
the reality is that we've really benefited from the last
couple of decades where the United States companies broadly have
(11:04):
been the dominant force on the Internet, and that's starting
to change. Right, is an example of that.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Right, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Is, Yeah, this is really much more of an existential conversation.
And yes, there is a national security part. It's worth
noting in five years the government has failed to show
us anything publicly, including when they've been demanded by courts.
They've never shown anything to us that proofs that there's
a national security threat. So we're just having to take
(11:33):
them at their word. But it is notable that that
the president.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Right, both administrations believe it was a national security threat though, right, yes.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Oh yes, absolutely, But it's notable that the person who
started it is now trying.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
To back up. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll tell
you what. I don't know if this was on your
radar or not. Maybe it was, but it was a
moment for a lot of parents this past week when
they picked up their kids at school. I've talked to
multiple people had exactly the same experience. You pick up
your kid from school and you find out that they
watched that horrifying video that you thought you were going
to delicately tell your kids about. That's that's something.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
In something And the reality is that most of what
we've learned over the last couple of decades now is
that a lot of those parental controls that we thought
might work on computers just don't. And we're at this
situation where really we have an entire generation a couple
of generations now that have very open access to information
(12:33):
on the internet, and again, right, we believe in free
speech and everything. What you're seeing is that the response
to this has been a much heavier hand. In some cases,
a number of states have passed laws now, for example,
requiring actual age verification in order to access pornography websites, right,
and there's a there's there's talk about trying to do
(12:55):
that with social media, and in fact in Australia that
is all already being done with AI chatbots in Australia.
They're starting to set rules saying you have to verify
your you're eighteen or older in order to use a chatbox,
and so that might be where things end up if
this issue does not somehow resolve itself.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
That's interesting stuff and it's going to be a topic
around for a long time. I hope we can talk
to you again in the future. And that was really good.
Oh absolutely, CBS News Tech contributor Ian Share s h
E R R Share Sure. Anyway, he was good. I
liked him. I liked talking to him. I'm almost nihilistic
on this topic. I just don't think there's any way
(13:38):
we're going to the age verification. What you click a
box that says I promise I'm eighteen. I mean, how
are you going to do anything beyond that? Really? Any
who got a lot more on the way stay here.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
Shock so that David Busser's sales have declined again and
the company is really struggling. It's not good with David Busters.
I mean, we're you going to disappoint a woman on.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
A first date. So you think that's got a greater
social significance their Michael, in what way.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
Has everybody play stuff? Online.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
I just know that when I was younger, i'd meet
my friends of the arcades and that's what you did.
You played the big stand up pac Mans and stuff
like that. And now it's everything is online and you
don't invite people over to play video games anymore. It's
just you're in two separate houses and that's it interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, that's funny. When I was I'm old, But so
when I was younger, video games did pretty much always
mean people playing together because there was no technology to
do it any other way. It was very common like
when I was in college, and after twenty somethings, Now, yeah,
(14:50):
you got a headset on and you're playing with other
people who may be murderers. In the case of that
scumbag in Utah. Not to bring everything back to that story,
but they say it is more than two twenty people
on that discord when he admitted that he shot. That's something.
But that's one of the things I worry about with
my kids, obviously, speaking attacking teenage barriers and all that
sort of stuff. You don't know who that that heck
(15:13):
at your your kid is talking to on video games.
I tell my kids if it ever strays from anything
other than specifically about the game. Do you know, don't
don't don't take the bait whether it's nice here, what's
it like where you live? Where do you live again, Henry?
You know that sort of thing. Yeah, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 9 (15:33):
Well there's this there's this trend going on right now
on TikTok where kids are showing off their college dorms.
But they're showing the entrance to the school. They're showing
the hallway, they are showing what the front door of
their dorm looks like. They are showing the layout of
their dorm. And it's just like, why don't you just
put your address on the internet?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Right, I just say something on the t on the TV.
I'm gonna have to do a little research on here.
A woman set a new record for the fifty meter
lego barefoot lego run.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
So they took looked like a high school track and
they laid out legos, thick layer of legos all along
the track and then she ran barefoot and sprinted down
the thing and set a.
Speaker 10 (16:21):
New record for the one hundred meters. It was one
hundred meters.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
That's a long leg Any parent that's done it, one
lego one time is plenty. Running one hundred meters barefoot
on legos seems well kind of stupid.
Speaker 10 (16:36):
How do you wake up and go?
Speaker 9 (16:37):
You know what I'm gonna do today, I'm gonna run
across one hundred meters one hundred meters of lego, so well.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
To see how fast I can do it. Compare myself
to other people who have done the same thing, which
nobody's ever thought of. So there was quite a hearing
yesterday in Congress with the FBI director getting yelled at
by Democrats, and its conflict and people like conflicts. So
we play a little conflict when we come back and
talk about some other stuff too that will fit in
if you miss a segment an hour. There's been some
(17:02):
great guests on today, and if you haven't heard it all,
you should look for the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Corey Booker, who loves to get into it with various people,
Democratic Senator and Cash Mattel yelling at each other. That's
what's on the way Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 11 (17:20):
We're actually talking about is something known as Chagas a
lot of people may not have heard of this, no surprise,
because it's mostly been relegated to the tropics for a
long time, but as the weather has gotten warmer, it's
moved from rural Mexico and Central America and South America
into the United States. There's about two hundred and eighty
thousand people they estimate, in the United States that have chaugus,
(17:42):
but only about one percent of people actually know it.
It's called the kissing disease because these bugs, which are
about a half inch to an inch long, typically bite
people on the face and then they leave a parasite
and then that itches, so people scratch and they sort
of embed that parasite into their skin and that causes
the infection.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
How are there a quarter of a million people who've
had a one inch bug on their face? Ever that
bites them and gives them this parasite and they and
they don't most of them don't know.
Speaker 9 (18:13):
It, and it makes your face itch, so you scratch
it and it spreads.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't I would think I would know that.
Speaker 9 (18:20):
Yeah, it's all it's along all of the southern uh
the States with our southern border too, because it's coming
up from there.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I rarely have one inch bugs on my face to
start with.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
I can't.
Speaker 9 (18:37):
I can't think of the last time I welcome to
one inch bug onto my face.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
And then if I start to itch and scratch and
I see it's spreading all around my head, I would
go ahead and ask a doctor something.
Speaker 8 (18:48):
And maybe maybe twice a year.
Speaker 9 (18:51):
Michael, be careful. I wonder how long it takes for
it to put that little parasite in there? Does it
have to like hang out there for a minute. I
don't I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I don't like these new diseases that are crossing our
border anyway. So that's that story. And you can't call
it the kissing disease. There is a kissing disease. It's mononucleus.
Mononucleosis is the kissing disease, or at least they used
to call it that in the old days. I had
mono twice in my life. It's horrible. You're you're supposed
to only be able to get it once, but I
had it twice because I'm special. So this was yesterday
(19:20):
hearing they had in Congress. The FBI director who Democrats hate,
Cash Pattel, was up there being grilled and in this
case by Senator Corey Booker, who's one of the all
time Grand standard. I'm gonna get on cable news of
all the senators asking questions. I got to make sure
my clip makes the news, and it did, and it
(19:41):
does again on our show Here we go. Thank you,
mister Shiv.
Speaker 12 (19:44):
Do you want to say.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Oh, let me let me start this again real quick
or you can stop it there? Uh Court Bookerry had
just done a really really long rant about not digging
cash Ptel in his act and all the different sorts
of things stuff like that, and then the one hundred
and forty five year old grass Lea, the chair gave
the FBI director a chance to respond.
Speaker 13 (20:09):
Brand a false information does not bring this country together.
If you want to work on bringing this country, it's
my time, not yours.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
My god, my god.
Speaker 10 (20:18):
If you want to talk about.
Speaker 14 (20:20):
Biding this country, it is find you on your social
media post time you try all in this country.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Okay. So that's that's that's that's good stuff. That's good
stuff right there. That's that's But it's hard to imagine
that Congress is ever going to pass legislation to change
the structure of hearings because they must feel that they
benefit from it somehow. But the televised hearings are worthless.
(20:57):
I don't know if they ever accomplish anything, but anyway,
let's let's get back to it.
Speaker 14 (21:01):
Oh this committee, sir, you don't tell me my time
is over. You'll tell me what my time is. You
can't lecture me, you can tell her time.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
May the charge. I am, mister Chairman, not afraid of you,
Mister Chairman, point of.
Speaker 12 (21:17):
Order, Senator Booker. I announced at the beginning of this
meeting that this back and forth talking over each other
doesn't work, and I said, if that happened, I asked
Patel not to respond, and I was going to give
him some time after the Senator's time was up to respond.
And that's he has the privilege to do that uninterrupted,
(21:39):
mister Chairman Aster, I've watched him talk over us, and
you've never once criticized him for us not even be
able to get our questions.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Out about he has been.
Speaker 14 (21:48):
Really disrespectful to Senator.
Speaker 12 (21:50):
Senator, and when the senators were not giving him a
chance to answer, I didn't stop the senator either. Go ahead, sir,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Message.
Speaker 13 (22:00):
If the FBI under my seven month leadership were failing
this administration to this country, why do we have twenty
three thousand violent felons arrested this year alone, a twenty
two hundred excuse me, a double increase from that time
last year. Why is it that we have seeded six
thousand weapons? Why have we found fifteen hundred child predators
and arrest them? Why have we have three hundred human
(22:21):
traffickers in jail? Why have we found and identified forty
seven hundred children? Why have we seen sixteen hundred kilograms
of fentanyl enough to kill a third of the American public?
A twenty five percent increase alone from last year. Eighty
eight thousand kilograms of cocaine seas, seventy hundred kilograms of
mets sees. And that's just on our criminal operations in
summer heat. How is it possible that we're taking eight
(22:44):
kilograms off the streets of the cities in New Jersey Point.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
So that was that, and that's what usually happens. And
Chuck Grassley, the chair, I happened to be on his side.
Of course, he was there when Charles Sumner got caned.
Google it and he remembers how divisive things can get
speaking of fentanyl. Wanted to bring this up Wall Street
Journal with the story out today. Actually it was about
this guy. You should probably get to know his name.
El signor Mencho. Sennor Mencho is now the number one
(23:15):
drug cartel leader in all the world. Cocaine, not fentanyl,
not meth not whatever else. Cocaine. America loves cocaine again,
says the Wall Street Journal. And Mexico's knew drug king
Cash is in. So the Trump administration's warren fentanyl has worked.
(23:36):
And part of it is just getting the news out
in the United States that fentanyl's really, really dangerous, so
people don't do fentanyl, and cocaine is back, and in
particular this cocaine from this guy, because it says here,
cocaine sold in the United States is now cheaper and
as pure as ever for retail buyers. So it's super cheap,
(23:56):
and it's from a source that you can count on
until you can't for it to be pure and not
have any fentanyl in it that's going to kill you.
Listen to this stat consumption in the Western United States
has increased one hundred and fifty four percent since twenty nineteen.
Also it is that's an explosion. And I'll tell you
(24:17):
what that it mostly is. I think I don't know
this but I would guess what says here for new users,
cocaine doesn't carry the stigma of fentl addiction. Yeah, the
stigma of fentyl addiction is on display in the West
Coast the way it's not the rest of the country.
If you live in San Francisco, La, San Diego, Portland, Seattle,
(24:40):
you see these drug casualties on the street every single day.
Kind of turns you off the whole fentanyl thing. Most
of those people aren't doing pure cocaine, is what you're
thinking to yourself. And I gotta believe that's got a
lot to do with people switching from whatever drugs. Lands
you in a cardboard box, screaming at a fire hydrant
that you see on the streets of La or all
(25:01):
those other cities, and you turn away from those drugs.
I'll bet that's it. Yeah, we've got the display of
not the cocaine can't ruin your life. I personally know
of it. A number of people who have ruined their
lives with that particular drug. But man, that's quite the
explosion of it. So now, hey, yay, Now I get
to talk to my kids about this. Another thing to
talk to my kids about, and worry about. Added to
the list, added to the list. Yes, we will finish strong,
(25:23):
next strong. Before we get to a mom explaining to
her daughter that knows she is not a boy. This
first front page of USA Today today, raising recruits to
meet standards. It's all about how the US Army, as
we reported a lot several years ago, was falling horrifyingly
(25:49):
short of the recruitment goals to have people join the army,
and that ain't good for all kinds of obvious reasons.
And now they are doing great. The Army clinched its
recruiting goal of fifty five thousand in the last fiscal year,
(26:10):
and this year four months early that it had met
its annual goal of sixty one thousand way before the
end of the year. So it barely made it last year,
and then this year it already hit the goal in
the middle of the year and is going to surpass
that now. Pete Hegzath and Donald Trump say that's because
young men are way more likely to join the army
(26:31):
under Trump as president under Joe Biden. I think that's
obviously true. I mean, you look at the way young
men voted in this country as a whole, look at
the way young men are responding to Charlie Kirk being assassinated.
That crowd is huge on the MAGA right, and they're
way more likely to join the army in the military
when Trump's president than under a Democrat, specifically Biden. I
(26:53):
don't think there's any question of that whatsoever USA today.
I said that could be a factor, Okay, I think
it's probably a pretty big factor. I also want to
mention this not surprising ram Ford. It's Stalantis or ram
is Dodge. Stalantis is a company that owns Dodge. They're
(27:13):
pulling the plug on the all electric RAM fifteen hundred.
They were gonna build it in twenty twenty four, then
it got delayed to twenty five, then it got pushed
off to twenty six, then it was moved to twenty seven,
and now they've announced we ain't gonna make it at all.
So they're just in Is it stated there is not
a demand for a full sized battery electric truck. I'm
(27:34):
surprised Ford's still making the lightning. People are not near
as into electric vehicles as the lefties had hoped, And
certainly when you pull the plug on the tax payer
funded discounts, you realize that's how it works, right, If
you get a tax rebate of seventy five hundred dollars,
you and I are pulling our money to help somebody
(27:54):
else buy an electric car. Why would I do that? Yeah,
that's a good cause. I'm glad I gave it a charity.
Uh you getting to drive an electric car? So anyway,
yet another major automaker in the United States saying electric
thing ain't working out? Okay, So now what do I
need to know about this clip?
Speaker 9 (28:11):
This is a captured from an in home security camera.
And this little girl that you hear talking is maybe
three years old, and she proclaims to her mom that
she is a boy. And mom sets that straight real quick.
Speaker 14 (28:24):
I'm a boy, and these may do a girl.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
So you are a girl.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
That's what you're meant to be.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Only ever be finished. Emmy, that's correct.
Speaker 14 (28:43):
I am.
Speaker 10 (28:46):
Thank you. Say you love the body that you just
gave you and give you inside of a girl.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah, said, dad's a boy.
Speaker 9 (28:58):
And she goes, that's right, and she goes, the body
that Jesus gave you is that of a girl.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
A three year old doesn't have any idea what they're
talking about.
Speaker 9 (29:08):
Well, I should also note that this little girl was
looking at I couldn't tell if it was a laptop
or an iPad because it was a little blurry, but
she was on some form of a computer screen.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Has this mom been doxed yet by people who think
she ought to have her kids taken away from her
or something like that.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
I didn't see it, but I wouldn't be surprised. Boy,
that's you know, that's a real thing, though.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
I mean, they are.
Speaker 9 (29:35):
You know, my friend just put her daughter into kindergarten
and she's really worried that one of these days her
daughter's going to come home and say something along those
lines because of how early this is starting in schools.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, it's difficult to have a conversation about anything that
means anything with a three year old, five year old
you can start to definitely, yeah, and yeah, well I've
seen it in my schools, my kids' schools. So my
son had another big a boy scout event last night.
This was what they call a court of Honor, and
they do it a couple of times a year, I guess.
And when you move up and rank, they have this
(30:08):
big get together and the parents go and we had
a pot luck ahead of time, and then we meet
and they do the flag ceremony and all that sort
of stuff, and the parents go up with the kid
and they get their next rank and they put a
pin on the parent and it's really really cool. Like everything.
I've said this now for however many months that my
son's been in Scouting, I couldn't be more impressed. I
think it's really great for young men. Girls can be
(30:29):
in boy Scouts too. I've seen lots of girls that
are not lots, but I've seen girls that are in Scouts,
including Eagle Scouts, if you want to do that as
a parent of a young girl. But I couldn't be
happier about it for because they're just so few up
with young men. Sorts of things out there anywhere in
our country, certainly not in our schools. And I loved
(30:49):
seeing this. But for the pot luck, they sent out
this sign up genius thing for choices you could make,
and I thought about, like going with the souper are
easy bread rolls, you know, but I know I just
don't snapkins, yeah exactly. I just thought that was kind
(31:11):
of baling on your responsibility. So I checked off one
of the meats and went with chicken. I've never cooked
chicken in my entire life, not one time, not one
tiny piece of chicken have I ever attempted to cook?
Speaker 10 (31:23):
What are you serious?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
You've never got serious? Yeah? Oh my gosh, why would
I cook a piece of chicken. I like beef, I
cook hamburgers and steak. But okay, I just never cooked
a piece of chicken. My First of all, I find
chickens always too dry. Every time I have chicken anywhere,
it's always too dry. I just I'm never that pleased
with chicken. Okay, But yes, Michael, you.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
Gotta cook it slow so it doesn't dry out.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Is that the thing? Yes? So Omaha Steaks who we endorse.
They have really really high quality stuff, and I eat
their burgers and their steaks and the apple tarts and
all kinds of stuff. I do not eat the chicken,
usually because I don't cook chicken. As I have previously stated,
I usually give away the very very delicious chicken to
(32:11):
like other people.
Speaker 10 (32:12):
You take it over to your neighbor and say, hey,
I bought this for you.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Right, see a previous episode about that. But so I
finally decided to cook all these chicken breasts, and we
went on chat GPT and asked all kinds of questions,
and my son watched some YouTube videos about parchment paper
and made a little glaze thing to put on it
and all this different sort of stuff, and we, oh, yeah,
we baked it okay. And we went to the storm
(32:38):
and bought stuff. I even got a meat thermometer, which
I've never owned in my life. I now own a
meat thermometer at age sixty, and gives me a better
shot at getting a.
Speaker 10 (32:46):
Things are happening here, focks yeah, I'll.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Help give me a better shot at Sometimes we cut
into our burgers and they're well done, which I hate.
That's ruins a burger, or they're just so gooey raw
that like you have to throw them back on the grill.
You just can't possibly stommach it. And I'm just, you know,
I don't know eyeballing it. So now I gotta meet
tomorm Ary, very very cool. When we cooked the chicken
and everything, and it took a lot longer than I
(33:08):
thought I thought it would, but it turned out pretty
damn good. It turned out pretty good, and with a
little barbecue sauce somebody, it was fine. And I thought
we had one of the better things there certainly homemade things.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
There.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
There were people that brought pizzas from a pizza plus.
That's nice, that's fine. People love pizza. That's all good.
It just seems like a cheating at a potluck.
Speaker 10 (33:26):
To me, I'm having like a proud mom moment. Jack,
you baked some chicken.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Henry mostly did, yes, but he did, he baked some chicken.
But there isn't it a cheating at a pot luck
to bring something straight from a store. It might what
you brought might be the tastiest thing because it's straight
from a store or the pizza place, zero effort. It
just seems like cheating there.
Speaker 9 (33:47):
Yeah, I get that you're supposed to make something for
a potluck.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
One of the boy scouts who's a team made a
tater tot castle role, which is such a teenage boy
sort of thing to make awesome. It was pretty good.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Though.
Speaker 15 (34:00):
I have some final thoughts, and some people say they
are the greatest final thoughts they've ever heard. But if
you look at what's happening, I would have to say
Armstrong and Getty have some wonderful final thoughts. They are
right up there with Abraham Lincoln and everybody knows it.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Somebody did bring a big giant pie from Costco, which
I did not complain about because I has some good pie.
Let's hand it over to our host for final thoughts.
Speaker 11 (34:29):
Me.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I'm your host. Joe is not here. He's playing golf
and it's some fancy, fancy golf course in the Monterey.
Here's our technical director, Michael Angelo. Do you have a
final thought for U?
Speaker 8 (34:36):
Steah? My final thought is Jack.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
I've worked with you for let's see, more than about
twenty six years, now, is that possible?
Speaker 8 (34:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (34:44):
But the fact that you haven't cooked chicken in twenty
six years, I just I find that troubling.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
I don't know why.
Speaker 10 (34:51):
In my whole life, I can't any sixty years.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I've never even considered it. It's never even crossed my mind.
Here is our newsperson, Katie Katie the news Lady, Katie Green.
What do you got there, Katie?
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Well?
Speaker 10 (35:04):
Was I can get my brain back together?
Speaker 9 (35:06):
I was thinking about that chick that was running on
Legos and yesterday I stepped on a pebble maybe the
size of my pinky fingernail, and I lost my ass.
Speaker 10 (35:16):
It hurts so bad.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Well, yeah, that's the weird thing like the smaller, the worse.
Oh that is something. Yeah, there is a video out
there of a woman running the one hundred yard dash barefoot
on Legos that we can post twenty five seconds at
Armstrong in Giddy dot com. And my final thought is
we got a bunch of great guests today and if
(35:38):
you missed any segment you should check them out. The
podcast is Armstrong in Getty on demand. I mean, there
are some really good conversations about politics, the economy, about tech,
about the law and justice with Katie's dad, the former judge,
So a lot of good stuff. Check out the podcast
Armstrong and Getdy. Wrapping up another brewling four hour workday.
We will see tomorrow. God bless America. I'm Strong and Getty.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Hello, my beloved baby jacket uh Jim, back to you, sweetie,
my love and my destiny, that huge honey
Speaker 12 (36:25):
Jack Armstrong, my precious Armstrong and Getty
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