October 3, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- Nuts & bolts of AI
- 2 spirit safe spaces
- Trump tough talk to Hamas & ultra processed foods
- Illegal immigrants on American healthcare
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty and no He Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
The hotel chain Holiday in Express has unveiled a new
scent based alarm clock that will wake up guests with
a simulated smell of breakfast. Because what weary traveler doesn't
love to wake up to a lie?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
That's funny. When I was hiking with my son, I
said something to him, and he said, don't turn this
into a forest of lies, which is a Simpsons reference.
So do you want a philosophical AI or nuts and
bolts fact I think I'll start with nuts and bolts factual.
We do a lot of philosophical although I do want
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to get to that at some point. So in a
business section today of the Washington Post, AI will trigger
financial calamity. So that got my attention. It's funny. We
were talking about this just the other day. I texted
in my own personal life, I texted Joe like, hey,
I just checked my four A one K because I
don't check it on a regular basis. Holy crap, you know,
(01:27):
because this stock market has been going up setting records
every single day. I looked at my frog k and
it was like, this is incredible, and we're both discussing
how there's got to be a correction coming. What you know,
a smart person might think, you know, maybe I'll put
this in something kind of not volatile and wait for
the correction to come. Of course, that's how you miss
out on a lot of rises, right by the dip,
(01:49):
by the nip. All right, AI is going to cause
a financial calamity, is what it says. And let me
read this to you. The house of court, the and
this is from one expert researcher at one of your
big AI groups. The house of cards is going to
start crumbling. The amount of money being spent is not
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proportionate to the money that's coming in. These perspectives are
all about how based on the money that's been spent.
And we've talked about this a lot of times. Nvidia
agreed to invest up to a one hundred billion dollars
or that's about the size of New York City's entire
twenty twenty four budget, to give you an idea how
much money that is in open AI. So in Vidia,
(02:30):
the chip maker, is investing in one of the AI
corporations and providing it with hard to get chips. And
the main point that I'll skip to and then i'll
get to the details, is the AI industry is now
buying its own revenue in a circular fashion. They keep buying,
investing in each other in ways, and we'll invest in
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your chips, and then the chip maker invests in the AI,
and the AI puts more money into the hardware or
the big giant thing that's going to power the thing,
and then the big company that's going to power the
thing puts more money into groc or whatever. And it's
just this circular thing, which it could be highly troubling.
(03:16):
So much of the stock market is AI involved the
and the everybody's using the example of the dot com
bubble that happened in the nineties, where there was this
build up, this build up, this build up a little
bit similar in that companies were investing in other companies
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and investing in each other, and it just kept building
and building, and then and then it just collapsed all
of a sudden. And if you don't remember, there was
an untested revenue model that they were hoping would come true. Yeah,
it's similar too similar to ah yeah, and if you
don't remember, if you weren't alive for it or invested
at the time, The Nasdaq ultimately lost seventy five percent
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of its value from the peak to the trough. It
wasn't a minor correction. The percentages on this whole thing
is just really quite incredible. In Video, for instance, has
added one hundred and sixty billion dollars. The Rise the
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other day added one hundred and sixty billion dollars to
in Videa's market value, which is increased by four trillion
dollars in the last three years. That's an unimaginable amount
of money.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It's increased by that much.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yes, it's increased by four trillion dollars in three years.
You can't even wrap your head around that kind of thing.
And I mentioned earlier as of today, Open Ai, that's
the chat GPT company. It's privately held, it's not a stock,
but it reached a valuation of a half a trillion dollars.
Its most valuable privately held company in the world right now,
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and they're investing in each other. For skeptics, it's another
dangerous sign of excess because such deals in which players
in the AI ecosystem are exchanging money are simply financial
tricks that are camouflaging the evidence of a bubble that
is about to burst, says this analysis. You know, this
person's guessing to a certain point, to a certain extent,
(05:20):
like everybody else.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's the annoying part about bubbles is that if you
could be sure they were bubbles, they would never happen.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
The capital expenditures made by a very small number of companies,
as we've been talking about, it's like you got Nvidia,
you got Google, you got Tesla. You just got a
handful of companies that are driving most of your stock
market records. The capital expenditures made by this small number
of companies are now contributing more to GDP than the
spending of all of America's consumers. This person, this financial
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expert set, I wonder if the black holes ultimately consume
each other, as well as our economy and power grid
in the process, which is obviously a highly troubling idea.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It's a little cataclysmic there, son.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah. To put it differently, one of the most notorious
calamities of the dot com era was the collapse of
pets dot com. Everybody uses that one as the example,
its peak market value is about three hundred million dollars.
Since the release of CHATGPT in twenty twenty two, the
value of America's stock market has risen by Since the
release of CHATGPT, and it's only been out for three years,
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the stock market has risen by twenty one trillion dollars.
In a recent piece, Sky from JP Morgan wrote that
since that time, AI related stocks have accounted for seventy
five percent of S and P five one hundred returns,
seventy nine percent of earnings growth, and ninety percent of
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capital spending growth. That is an awful lot on just
a couple of company, and all of those companies are
growing around the idea of AI.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Right. You know, I'm reminded of the whimsical yet dark
description of the Russian The Russian armed forces is a
midget with one giant muscled arm is. It's nuclear forces
is the American economy slash stock market a absolute penniless
(07:26):
pauper walking around with the hope diamond in his hand,
and if the hope diamond goes away, it's just yay yay. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well, obviously, if AI turns out to be what these
companies think it's going to be, everything will be fine.
But if it's not, or if it's not very soon,
that's going to be a problem. I mean, those numbers
are shocking. A twenty one trillion dollar rise in three years,
and three quarters to eighty percent of it depending on
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how you count it. Is all these handful of companies
investing in AI in each other.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Right, Holy crap sounds a little bubbly.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
God, I would say, so unless it pans out to
be what they think it's gonna be, then everything will
be fine. Now to the philosophical thing on AI that
I wanted to mention. I don't know if you know
who Sam Harris is. He's a philosopher, podcaster sort of person.
He's on Bill Mahers Show a lot or whatever. He's
got a pre popular podcast, and he's got a series
on right now called The Last Invention where he's interviewing
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all of the top AI minds in the world. And
he wanted to get some different points of view on
people with a more positive view of AI, because he's
a doomer that's what they call, people who lean toward
the AI is going to ruin humanity and the economy
and the world and everything else. Why aren't we stopping this?
Those are dumers. I think I lean more toward doomer
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than the it's gonna cure cancer and people won't have
to work anymore optimists. And then there's also the crowd
that just thinks it won't happen, so it won't make
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Speaker 2 (10:04):
So you probably have heard of the Turing test when
it comes to computers and everything like that. That was one
of the biggest phrases around the growing power of computers
for decades and decades and decades and decades. Like man,
whenever we finally reached the point that something can pass
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the Turing test, we got to watch out for that
because that's gonna be a major moment in human history.
That is, when you could believe that you're communicating with
a human being on the computer, be fooled into thinking
it's a human. We passed the Turing test like two
three years ago, and it just came and went without
any commentary. I mean, all your experts are saying this
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was built up and build up and build up. Then
it happened to everybody's like huh oh, well, well let's
just keep going. Nobody slowed down for whatever reason. And
on this particular podcast getting into that top and I
thought this was a really interesting way look at it.
This is the idea that people are starting to have
human communication with their chatbots, and it feels like you're
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talking to another human. I did it in my tesla
with groc just yesterday, asking it kind of a banal question,
but it was talking to me like it's a passenger
in the car. It's very, very weird. This particular philosopher
who I've read some of his books said, you know,
for the very old, you could see this as a positive.
You're old, you're alone in an old folks home. All
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your friends have passed away, you got nobody, and now
you're feeling like you've got a companion. That's how can
you argue with that?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You know who cares? But it brings it comfort, sure, right,
it brings comfort at the end of your life. But
for everybody younger, it is going to destroy something with
the idea that and this philosopher behavioral philosopher said, loneliness
is a powerful signma that we get that tells us
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we're doing something wrong, that we're not living our life correctly.
If you're lonely, you either aren't, you know, joining up
groups or taking advantage of invitations to go do things,
or making the bold move to ask somebody on a
date or whatever you're living your life, you know, you
got to make some corrections. If lonely people can get
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that loneliness satisfied through a chatbot, there'll be no corrective
mechanism to do anything different.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah. I quibble only with the word satisfied, because, as
I've been saying for years and years now, using a
food metaphor, you satiate your hunger, you do not get
any nutrition.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Well, the problem, though, is it'll be enough to keep
you from feeling the corrective mechanism. I think that's been
proven with freaking internet porn.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Well, no, that's my point exactly. Yeah, you will no
longer seek that which will keep you alive.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, maybe I didn't maybe make it maybe I didn't
make it clear. He was pointing this out as a negative.
This is a bad thing. This is an awful thing,
right that it will you know that it will fool people.
It will give people enough to you know, you don't
do the normal correction. You don't think I've got to
get out of my house. I've got to do something.
I got to join a boiling league. I gotta do something.
People won't right, it'll kill their souls. And I don't
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see how we don't. I don't see how we don't
go down that road unless, like Sam Harris is arguing
that we outlawed, just flat out out law AI any
company trying to do it around the world. We treat
it like nuclear weapons out agreen and good luck with that.
If you have any comment on that, I think that
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is a huge problem and might be happening right this
moment with you know, somebody you know text line four
one five two nine five KFTC. We'll read the whole
post coming up. But Donald Trump, this is breaking news,
by the way, breaking Donald Trump just put out a
post the Mosses on notice gave the terror group until
(14:06):
Sunday at sixth Eastern to accept the gods a peace
deal or else all hell will break out. He wrote
quite a long post on truth social that we'll read
a little bit later.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Wow. Interesting. A lot of good stuff to come, including
if the shutdown ends because the Republicans give up on
one point, it will be the end of the republic
Man campus madness update, and all sorts of interesting stuff
I think, Oh, including I'm telling you I am sold
on the idea of ultra processed foods being evil.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
No Granola, the weirdo talking about my latest diet all
the time.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I'm sure it's true. I just don't believe I'll ever
be able to stop. But I'm sure it's true.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So I give you one. Gregory Jackson Junior, who is
the deputy director of the Biden White House's Office of
Gun Violence Prevention and more recently is the head of
the Community Justice Action Fund, a real progressive leader. Being
grilled by Senator Josh Hallie of Missouri Clip eighty. Please, Michael, here's.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
What you say we ought to invest in instead of
funding the police, we do need to invest in programs
that acknowledge the need for safe space initiatives. Yes, led
by lesbian, gay, bisexual, two spirit, trans and gender nonconforming people.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
What's too spirit?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Well, look, I don't know you guys will pull in
some interesting ques. This is from your replict.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
You say, don't fund the police, but do fund programs
that create safe spaces for two spirit people.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
What is I just want to know. I don't know
what that is. I have no idea what that is.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Well, I honestly I'm not completely aware of the language
he wrote the report. But what I'm telling you is
that what we as a two spirit individual, I mean
really said, this is your this is your policy maker's playbook. Well,
if you don't want to fund the police, you want
to fund safe spaces.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
For two spirit individuals. What is a two spirit person?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
I feel like I'm looking at a two faced individual
because you talk about Regina.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Sorry, you're looking at somebody who's reading you your own words.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I'd like to hear an answer that was a decent perry,
I mean, just to try to switch the topic. I mean,
oh yeah, because he wasn't a bad spot. He wasn't
a bad spot that often these are gotchas that I
don't like. That's a perfectly legitimate gotcha. This is your report.
I'm asking what this means.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
And there's a little more. They know exactly what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
They did it the last four years.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
They took money away from cops, they took money away
from ice, they took money away from law enforcement. And
what did they spend it on in Blue City after
Blue City?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
This kind of.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Gobbledegook garbage, This safe space is this, hold your hand,
Kumbaya two spirit trans this and that, and then they
wonder why our cities are in shambles, and they sit
there and throw stones at Donald Trump as he sends
in the National Guard to restore order.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I'm actually surprised that guy couldn't answer that question.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
All right. I mean, I'm a hip enough to the
whole progressive thing. I can tell you what that is.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
It's an Indian thing.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Well right, yeah, but he's just about funneling the money
to activist groups with this is the excuse. So he
hasn't bothered to become an expert on the excuse that
SU's wild.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, how embarrassing. Nice job.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Josh Hawley and then Jackson, who was seriously injured in
a shooting in twenty thirteen, yelled, as someone who's been
shot nearly killed, I take offense that you would think
that the last thirteen years were not focused on reducing violence.
Holly shouted back, I take offence that you did not
answer my question, that you deny your own words, that
you are leading this committee astray, and frankly, sir, your
(17:37):
polities are policies are absurd.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
They're absurd. I start calling more things absurd. This is absurd.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It is a great old word. That is like if.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
There's not ketchup on the table at the restaurant. This
is absurd.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
All right, So the whole it's funny. Half an hour
after I said, is anything happening on this, the whole
Hamas Israel thing is apparently about to move into a
new phase.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
God, I would say so. And so my Ukraine and Russia,
which we got to talk about later. Yipes, got a
lot on the way. If you miss it, get the
podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty. Okay,
this is a pretty big deal. So Donald Trump just
truthed this out where I actually said yesterday I wish
he'd put a definite timeline deadline on the whole Mosas
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thing Hammas thing, because he'd been just saying, if they
don't do it by this weekend, well when's this weekend
Friday at six or Sunday at mid dine or you
know you can't have a wishy washy deadline. At least
wishy washy deadlines don't work for me. Well, we have
a deadline now Donald Trump's post just from minutes ago.
Hamas has been a ruthless and violent threat for many
years in the Middle East. This is long by the
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way they have killed and made lives unbearably miserable, culminating
with the October seventh massacre in Israel. Babies, women, children,
old people, and many young men and women, boys and
girls getting ready to celebrate their future lives together retribution
for the October seventh attack on civilization. More than twenty
five thousand Hamas soldiers have already been killed. Most of
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the rest are surrounded and in all caps militarily trapped,
just waiting for me to give the word go for
their lives to be quickly extinguished. Wow. As for the rest,
we know where and who you are, and you will
be hunted down and killed. I'm asking that all innocent
Palestinians immediately lead this area of potentially great future death
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for safer parts of Gaza. Everyone will be well cared
for by those that are waiting to help. Fortunately for Hamas, however,
they will be given one last chance. Great powerful and
very rich nations of the Middle East and the surrounding
areas beyond, together with the United States of America, have
agreed with Israel signing on to peace in all caps
after three thousand years in the Middle East. Now this
(19:50):
sentence is all caps. This deal also spares the lives
of all remaining Hamas fighters. The details of the document
are known to the world, and it is a great
one for all. We have peace in the Middle at
least one way or another. The violence and bloodshed will stop.
Release the hostages, all of them, including the bodies of
those that are dead. Now that is at all caps.
An agreement must be reached with AMAS by Sunday evening
(20:12):
at six pm Washington DC time every country has signed on.
If this last chance agreement is not reached, all hell
in caps like no one has ever seen before, will
break out against Tomas. There will be piece of them
at least one way or another, all caps. Thank you
for your attention to this matter. Trump is amazing and
(20:34):
utterly unique. I'd say, I'd sw wow.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Of course, TAMAS is desperate to keep those civilians right
where they are at the day. Way will prevent civilians
from fleeing at the point of a gun.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I think those civilians then will be collateral damage because
Israel is going to do what it's going to do.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And NPR will blame Israel for it, of course, but
there's nothing you can do about that.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
That's a pretty unequivocal statement.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, yeah, and we the world needs more unequivocal statements
and fewer mush mouthed you know, mouthing of pleasantries and
cliches and and hopes. No, that's not the way the
world works, never been the way the world works.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Well, wars have to end, right and uh like he
says there's going to be peace one way or the other,
I mean temporary piece piece.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Ish yeah yeah, oh my god, Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
All will break loose.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Okay, Well, I believe that there are there are the
usual suspects, your European countries and the Yue still talking
about a two state solution, yeah all right, or or
you know, recognizing the Palestinian state and all that is
the polar opposite, that is the realism of Trump.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Because that is unicorn, right, fantasy land.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Right, and most of them know that. But they mouth
that for consumer or the you know, it's like their
their domestic audiences and or the met It's.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Just like being pacifist. I mean, you get all you
get all the credit for being good and nice and
everything like that, but you're not living in reality in
any way.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Right, go be a pacifist in Ukraine or Nigeria or
something like that. You don't get to be a pacifist
protected by the mightiest military in the history of the
earth anyway. Well, that will be interesting one way or
the other, guaranteed, God, I'd say, so, I want to
talk about something that's not going to end in kind
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of Ay, whatever happened with that.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Right, that is not why it's going to be So
three o'clock my time on the West Coast. Okay, well
that's what I'll do on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, yeah, all right, what's that? Are you in the
mood for something completely different?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Hells?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah? So you may remember I mentioned this a couple
of times and we never got to it. Gosh, it
was a month ago, a piece from the Wall Street Journal.
My family went off ultra processed foods for a month.
The results surprised us, and we just never got to it.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Got I heard a little bit about this yesterday, and
I thought, I've got to make an effort for me
and the boys to eat less ultra processed food. It's
just so eat One, it's yummy. Two were addicted to it. Three,
it's everywhere. I could come up with many reasons why
it's hard to quit well dig this stuff. We're gonna
start with clips sixty Michael and go from there. It's
the so cute Alexandria Hoff on Special Report last night
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talking about upfs as we're calling.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Them now these days. Saves time instead of ultra processed foods.
So many syllables, let's hear sixty Michael.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
So a lot of this has been talked about in
the context of what we're feeding our children, but new
research out of the University of Michigan finds that older
Americans are the most addictive to the additive heavy nutrient
light products known as ultra process foods. The study finds
that UPF addiction is far out pacing reliance on alcohol
or tobacco, especially so for women age fifty to sixty four,
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where twenty one percent qualified as having a UPF addiction.
That was determined with the same criteria used to diagnose
substance use disorders. For men in the same age group,
it was ten percent. High consumption was then associated with
poor perception of mental and physical health and feelings of isolation.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I feel like this a version to upfs is much
higher than to alcohol and tobacco among women.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, this is the first time I've ever thought about
it being in an addiction, and I'm a little confused
by that. But that's interesting because I don't feel like
I'm an addict. Like you know, if you're addicted to
whatever you're addicted to, it's not just because it's cheap
and easy to get to.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, not to be a flip, but something you want
a lot all the time, even though you know it's
not good for you. That could just be laziness.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
It's it's like eighty percent of my day next things
I shouldn't be doing.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
According to the study, it comes down to this population
being in a developmentally sensitive stage of life during the
seventies and eighties quote precisely when tobacco owned food manufacturers
were shaping the market with addictive up apps.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
If I met, so, that's why women in their fifties
and sixties are especially allegedly addictive to this stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
If it's not just that I like it and that
it's cheap and easy, it's I'm actually addicted to it.
That makes me want to stop even more.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Next clip, Michael, and this raises concerns for addiction levels
to come. The Trump Administration's MAHA report, released last month
underscores that nearly seventy percent of American American child's calories
come from upfs, which is far more than what older
generations consumed as kids.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Now.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
As for why the addiction rate is higher and older
women versus men, well, researchers theorize that aggressive weight control
marketing in the eighties could be to blame for that,
at selling women and girls in low fat microwavable karp
any products that only made things worse.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
That's right, that was a big thing.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, I'm not I've heard so many things called addictions,
and I think sometimes that word gets thrown around a
little too easily. But I am very very intrigued about
this one. And then to the article from the journal,
which I have refound. It's this gallous journalist who decided
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or agreed to completely avoid UPFS for her family for
a month to see what they all thought of it.
The results proved transformative. Removing upfs dramatically altered my daughter's
eating habits. It changed mine even more. These effects persuaded
my husband, who began the experiment as a skeptical observer,
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to wean himself off ultra processed foods too, And she
gets into They agreed on a simple definition so that
her daughter could easily identify upfs too. They went shopping together,
and that's essentially if you see an ingredient that you
don't you can barely pronounce. I mean, you have to
like sound it out you don't know what it is,
avoid it, don't buy it, which is a little broad,
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but that's useful.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Well, Michael, I was just thinking, so, like, a frozen
pizza probably has a gazillion ingredients on there. I don't
know yes of that. But if I get a pizza
from a restaurant and delivered, did they use ingredients that
are ultra processed food? So I'm doing the same thing.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Probably not, Okay, probably not, So, she writes, dis eliminated
all foods with artificial flavors and anything with refined flowers,
including most store bought crackers, cereals, breads, pretzels, granola bars,
and the baked goods at our local coffee shops. It
meant giving up a bunch of our favorite foods cheese its,
ritz crackers, pirates, booty bagels, pita chips, what milk, chocolate
(27:51):
and flavored sparkling waters?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Are you sitting around eating cheese its and pirates, booty
past the age of ten?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Please?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Don't we stocked.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Up on whole in mintie mimimally processed foods, including oatmeal,
plain yogurt, fresh cheeses, beans, nuts, canfish, canned fish, canned fish.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
All right, I'll sit around and eat nuts. There's a
number of things I'll chomp on as a snack. I'm
not gonna eat canned fish. Well probably, I'm probably like to,
but I'm still probably I'd gonna sit on the couch
washing a game with a can of fish, you know,
like tuna that's fine, which is probably not gonna be
my go to snack.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Plus popcorn, fruits, well just say it, junkie. Then fruits
and veggies, fresh and frozen, et cetera. Here's the crazy intro.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Anybody, huh, get one while I go to the fridge.
So I have to make two trips.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
We decided that without UPFS, we could eat as much
as we wanted of the other foods, the good stuff,
and if we craved a sweet, we would bake it.
After a month, we would assess how we felt. We found, however,
that the changes came much sooner. About ten days in,
she writes, I noticed a striking shift. I wasn't constantly
thinking about food before. I carried around what some call
food noise. I had persistent nagging thoughts about what to
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eat next. That's interesting, and she mentioned several things, then says,
without UPFS, my cravings faded. I learned I'm not alone.
A randomized, controlled eight week trial involving fifty adults published
this month in Nature Medicine found that participants who switched
to a minimally processed diet lost weight and saw their
cravings decline. The guy who led the studies that I
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was surprised by these findings. When people whose weight typically
their appetite or cravings increase, but we found the opposite.
My snacking duly plummeted. My daughter's eating habits followed suit.
By the third week, she did something I hadn't seen
in years. She had a homemade dinner with gusto, and
she mentions what it was, and it sounds quite nice.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
She'd been a picky eater, I thought, but that night
she gobbled it up and loved it and tasted you know,
all the foods.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
For me, way more than the yumminess and everything. It's
just the convenience. It's just so damned convenient. The extra
work it takes too not have a peanut butter sandwich
with the peanut butter and the bread both having a
lot of things any probably shouldn't eat.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
It's just so convenient to stay a junkie, living in
a tent and crapping on the sidewalk. Yes, it's his words.
I don't know if are with your cheese.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I don't know if I'm gonna end up an attent
crapping on the sidewalk because.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
You're a junkie. Listen to you, Listen to your excuses,
your denials.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
It is rationalization. The whole addiction thing is different, the
separating an addiction from a bad habit. They're not the
same thing. An addiction is not the same as a
bad habit. Nobody knows, nobody knows.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Nobody knows yeah, yeah, so listen. The Niners Rams game
last night was one of the best football games I've
ever witnessed, although it was very, very long.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Both my kids had homework and I had to help them.
Damn it.
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some Russia Ukraine stuff that's highly troubling, coming on the
heels of what Trump just said about Israel. Wow, the
world is spicy stick around.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Many of you asked me this morning about sombreros and
memes and why how came Jeffreys is all alarmed by that. Look,
these are games, these are side shows. People are getting
caught up and battles over social media memes. We've got
to keep the this is not a game. We got
to keep the government open for the people. I don't
know why this is so complicated. And to my friend Hakim,
who I was asked about, man, just ignore it. I mean,
(32:29):
Gavin Newsom was troulling me last night.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
He painted me like a minion.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
He painted me yellow with big glasses and overalls, and
I thought it was hilarious. You don't respond to it
for all my friends, for all my friends, ours and d's,
don't respond to it. Get to work, do the people's business,
and let's get on with it.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Have you been following any Charlie Cook's writing in the
National Review about this, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
He thinks shutdowns should be a regular part of our system.
It just should happen on a regular basis. What's the
big deal. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
It's an evidence of dysfunction, I think. But I'll have
to read his reasoning. Yeah, I'm fine with this one.
I don't care. I mean, they got to get it
going eventually. But so we've mentioned a couple of times
that if the Republicans give on one aspect of this,
the experiment in self governance is over. And that's only
half a joke. It's specifically, and I'm quoting from the Journal,
(33:28):
that the President has projected what they call unwavering confidence
that he is winning the messaging war over the government shutdown.
But behind the scenes, his team is increasingly concerned that
the issue at the center of the debate will create
political vulnerabilities for Republicans. Specifically, it's some of those obvious
common sense reforms on Medicare. Advisors are worried the GOP
(33:55):
will take the blame for allowing healthcare subsidies to expire,
raising costs from millions of Americans of next year's midterm elections.
According to the administration officials, here's the deal. During COVID,
the Democrats passed temporary boosts to who's eligible and how
it's going to work, and how much money you get.
(34:15):
And those boosts allowed able bodied people who ought to
be working to get heavily taxpayer subsidized healthcare health insurance. Really,
it permitted a lot of illegal immigrants to jump on
the rolls, and it permitted a lot of these zero
cost plans that, as we were discussing yesterday, something like
(34:36):
forty percent of those made zero claims last year. But
the insurance companies were still paid for them by the taxpayers,
and a lot of these people were unaware they were
even enrolled. And so that's all the Republicans are trying
to do is rain in those mainly those three things.
(34:56):
And if they think, you know the whole you're taking
healthcare away from p it's a good message, and we're
afraid if we stand up to him, we'll be blamed. Yeah,
let's let's go ahead and give in on this one. Yeah.
I just I think we're doomed.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
It's troubling because it's a lot like the voting stuff
was where they relaxed all kinds of voting rules during
COVID because it was so hard to vote, and then
when you tried to go back to the old way,
it was portrayed his voter suppression.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, Nazism, Jim Crow on stereo.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, and the mainstream media, you know, went along with it,
and a lot of people who weren't paying close attention
were confused. And the Republicans are afraid that that, or
Trump anyway is afraid that that same thing will happen here.
The mainstream media will portray it, of course as taking
away people's health care, even though it was a supposed
to be a short term emergency sort of thing during COVID,
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we portrayed as and people will believe that it's taking
away people's healthcare. And Trump, you know, for better or worse,
and I think this is worse. It's not an idea
log and that he'd I don't know if he's an
idea log on anything other than tariffs. Even the border
might just be because he sees it such an easy
winning issue that eighty five percent of people are in
agreement with. I don't know if he's an idy log
(36:09):
on hardly anything. And if he thinks this is going
to hurt chances in the midterms, I can see how
he would give on this, and then you're right, Then
there's nobody's courage. It is discouraging.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I mean, you want to talk about the high cost
of good intentions. This is a very short term, easily explained,
you know, fairly insignificant program that got boosted briefly for
a specific reason. Now we're just going to take it
back to normal because I mean, there's so many problems
(36:42):
with the boost. It was so sloppy and expensive. Got
to rein it in. But those who would grow the
government and do nothing but grow the government can make
a powerful enough case. Everybody gets scared and says, no,
we can't do that, we can't do that. We're done
as a people. There you go as a government system Friday,
what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? Personally,
(37:03):
I'm gonna arm myself and go door to door and
loot my neighbors and the Chasus.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
That's one option.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Steal their stuff, you know, kiss their wives, bet their dogs. Wow.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
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The hotel chain Holiday in Express has unveiled a new
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
That's funny. When I was hiking with my son, I
said something to him, and he said, don't turn this
into a forest of lies, which is a Simpsons reference.
So do you want a philosophical AI or nuts and
bolts fact I think I'll start with nuts and bolts factual.
We do a lot of philosophical although I do want
(01:04):
to get to that at some point. So in a
business section today of the Washington Post, AI will trigger
financial calamity. So that got my attention. It's funny. We
were talking about this just the other day. I texted
in my own personal life, I texted Joe like, hey,
I just checked my four A one K because I
don't check it on a regular basis. Holy crap, you know,
(01:27):
because this stock market has been going up setting records
every single day. I looked at my frog k and
it was like, this is incredible, and we're both discussing
how there's got to be a correction coming. What you know,
a smart person might think, you know, maybe I'll put
this in something kind of not volatile and wait for
the correction to come. Of course, that's how you miss
out on a lot of rises, right by the dip,
(01:49):
by the nip. All right, AI is going to cause
a financial calamity, is what it says. And let me
read this to you. The house of court, the and
this is from one expert researcher at one of your
big AI groups. The house of cards is going to
start crumbling. The amount of money being spent is not
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proportionate to the money that's coming in. These perspectives are
all about how based on the money that's been spent.
And we've talked about this a lot of times. Nvidia
agreed to invest up to a one hundred billion dollars
or that's about the size of New York City's entire
twenty twenty four budget, to give you an idea how
much money that is in open AI. So in Vidia,
(02:30):
the chip maker, is investing in one of the AI
corporations and providing it with hard to get chips. And
the main point that I'll skip to and then i'll
get to the details, is the AI industry is now
buying its own revenue in a circular fashion. They keep buying,
investing in each other in ways, and we'll invest in
(02:53):
your chips, and then the chip maker invests in the AI,
and the AI puts more money into the hardware or
the big giant thing that's going to power the thing,
and then the big company that's going to power the
thing puts more money into groc or whatever. And it's
just this circular thing, which it could be highly troubling.
(03:16):
So much of the stock market is AI involved the
and the everybody's using the example of the dot com
bubble that happened in the nineties, where there was this
build up, this build up, this build up a little
bit similar in that companies were investing in other companies
(03:37):
and investing in each other, and it just kept building
and building, and then and then it just collapsed all
of a sudden. And if you don't remember, there was
an untested revenue model that they were hoping would come true. Yeah,
it's similar too similar to ah yeah, and if you
don't remember, if you weren't alive for it or invested
at the time, The Nasdaq ultimately lost seventy five percent
(03:59):
of its value from the peak to the trough. It
wasn't a minor correction. The percentages on this whole thing
is just really quite incredible. In Video, for instance, has
added one hundred and sixty billion dollars. The Rise the
(04:24):
other day added one hundred and sixty billion dollars to
in Videa's market value, which is increased by four trillion
dollars in the last three years. That's an unimaginable amount
of money.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It's increased by that much.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yes, it's increased by four trillion dollars in three years.
You can't even wrap your head around that kind of thing.
And I mentioned earlier as of today, Open Ai, that's
the chat GPT company. It's privately held, it's not a stock,
but it reached a valuation of a half a trillion dollars.
Its most valuable privately held company in the world right now,
(05:00):
and they're investing in each other. For skeptics, it's another
dangerous sign of excess because such deals in which players
in the AI ecosystem are exchanging money are simply financial
tricks that are camouflaging the evidence of a bubble that
is about to burst, says this analysis. You know, this
person's guessing to a certain point, to a certain extent,
(05:20):
like everybody else.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's the annoying part about bubbles is that if you
could be sure they were bubbles, they would never happen.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
The capital expenditures made by a very small number of companies,
as we've been talking about, it's like you got Nvidia,
you got Google, you got Tesla. You just got a
handful of companies that are driving most of your stock
market records. The capital expenditures made by this small number
of companies are now contributing more to GDP than the
spending of all of America's consumers. This person, this financial
(05:55):
expert set, I wonder if the black holes ultimately consume
each other, as well as our economy and power grid
in the process, which is obviously a highly troubling idea.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It's a little cataclysmic there, son.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah. To put it differently, one of the most notorious
calamities of the dot com era was the collapse of
pets dot com. Everybody uses that one as the example,
its peak market value is about three hundred million dollars.
Since the release of CHATGPT in twenty twenty two, the
value of America's stock market has risen by Since the
release of CHATGPT, and it's only been out for three years,
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the stock market has risen by twenty one trillion dollars.
In a recent piece, Sky from JP Morgan wrote that
since that time, AI related stocks have accounted for seventy
five percent of S and P five one hundred returns,
seventy nine percent of earnings growth, and ninety percent of
(06:54):
capital spending growth. That is an awful lot on just
a couple of company, and all of those companies are
growing around the idea of AI.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Right. You know, I'm reminded of the whimsical yet dark
description of the Russian The Russian armed forces is a
midget with one giant muscled arm is. It's nuclear forces
is the American economy slash stock market a absolute penniless
(07:26):
pauper walking around with the hope diamond in his hand,
and if the hope diamond goes away, it's just yay yay. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well, obviously, if AI turns out to be what these
companies think it's going to be, everything will be fine.
But if it's not, or if it's not very soon,
that's going to be a problem. I mean, those numbers
are shocking. A twenty one trillion dollar rise in three years,
and three quarters to eighty percent of it depending on
(07:54):
how you count it. Is all these handful of companies
investing in AI in each other.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Right, Holy crap sounds a little bubbly.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
God, I would say, so unless it pans out to
be what they think it's gonna be, then everything will
be fine. Now to the philosophical thing on AI that
I wanted to mention. I don't know if you know
who Sam Harris is. He's a philosopher, podcaster sort of person.
He's on Bill Mahers Show a lot or whatever. He's
got a pre popular podcast, and he's got a series
on right now called The Last Invention where he's interviewing
(08:22):
all of the top AI minds in the world. And
he wanted to get some different points of view on
people with a more positive view of AI, because he's
a doomer that's what they call, people who lean toward
the AI is going to ruin humanity and the economy
and the world and everything else. Why aren't we stopping this?
Those are dumers. I think I lean more toward doomer
(08:45):
than the it's gonna cure cancer and people won't have
to work anymore optimists. And then there's also the crowd
that just thinks it won't happen, so it won't make
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So you probably have heard of the Turing test when
it comes to computers and everything like that. That was one
of the biggest phrases around the growing power of computers
for decades and decades and decades and decades. Like man,
whenever we finally reached the point that something can pass
(10:25):
the Turing test, we got to watch out for that
because that's gonna be a major moment in human history.
That is, when you could believe that you're communicating with
a human being on the computer, be fooled into thinking
it's a human. We passed the Turing test like two
three years ago, and it just came and went without
any commentary. I mean, all your experts are saying this
(10:48):
was built up and build up and build up. Then
it happened to everybody's like huh oh, well, well let's
just keep going. Nobody slowed down for whatever reason. And
on this particular podcast getting into that top and I
thought this was a really interesting way look at it.
This is the idea that people are starting to have
human communication with their chatbots, and it feels like you're
(11:11):
talking to another human. I did it in my tesla
with groc just yesterday, asking it kind of a banal question,
but it was talking to me like it's a passenger
in the car. It's very, very weird. This particular philosopher
who I've read some of his books said, you know,
for the very old, you could see this as a positive.
You're old, you're alone in an old folks home. All
(11:33):
your friends have passed away, you got nobody, and now
you're feeling like you've got a companion. That's how can
you argue with that?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You know who cares? But it brings it comfort, sure, right,
it brings comfort at the end of your life. But
for everybody younger, it is going to destroy something with
the idea that and this philosopher behavioral philosopher said, loneliness
is a powerful signma that we get that tells us
(12:02):
we're doing something wrong, that we're not living our life correctly.
If you're lonely, you either aren't, you know, joining up
groups or taking advantage of invitations to go do things,
or making the bold move to ask somebody on a
date or whatever you're living your life, you know, you
got to make some corrections. If lonely people can get
(12:25):
that loneliness satisfied through a chatbot, there'll be no corrective
mechanism to do anything different.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah. I quibble only with the word satisfied, because, as
I've been saying for years and years now, using a
food metaphor, you satiate your hunger, you do not get
any nutrition.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Well, the problem, though, is it'll be enough to keep
you from feeling the corrective mechanism. I think that's been
proven with freaking internet porn.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Well, no, that's my point exactly. Yeah, you will no
longer seek that which will keep you alive.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, maybe I didn't maybe make it maybe I didn't
make it clear. He was pointing this out as a negative.
This is a bad thing. This is an awful thing,
right that it will you know that it will fool people.
It will give people enough to you know, you don't
do the normal correction. You don't think I've got to
get out of my house. I've got to do something.
I got to join a boiling league. I gotta do something.
People won't right, it'll kill their souls. And I don't
(13:21):
see how we don't. I don't see how we don't
go down that road unless, like Sam Harris is arguing
that we outlawed, just flat out out law AI any
company trying to do it around the world. We treat
it like nuclear weapons out agreen and good luck with that.
If you have any comment on that, I think that
(13:42):
is a huge problem and might be happening right this
moment with you know, somebody you know text line four
one five two nine five KFTC. We'll read the whole
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by the way, breaking Donald Trump just put out a
post the Mosses on notice gave the terror group until
(14:06):
Sunday at sixth Eastern to accept the gods a peace
deal or else all hell will break out. He wrote
quite a long post on truth social that we'll read
a little bit later.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Wow. Interesting. A lot of good stuff to come, including
if the shutdown ends because the Republicans give up on
one point, it will be the end of the republic
Man campus madness update, and all sorts of interesting stuff
I think, Oh, including I'm telling you I am sold
on the idea of ultra processed foods being evil.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
No Granola, the weirdo talking about my latest diet all
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I'm sure it's true. I just don't believe I'll ever
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So I give you one. Gregory Jackson Junior, who is
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Speaker 4 (15:04):
What you say we ought to invest in instead of
funding the police, we do need to invest in programs
that acknowledge the need for safe space initiatives. Yes, led
by lesbian, gay, bisexual, two spirit, trans and gender nonconforming people.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
What's too spirit?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Well, look, I don't know you guys will pull in
some interesting ques. This is from your replict.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
You say, don't fund the police, but do fund programs
that create safe spaces for two spirit people.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
What is I just want to know. I don't know
what that is. I have no idea what that is.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Well, I honestly I'm not completely aware of the language
he wrote the report. But what I'm telling you is
that what we as a two spirit individual, I mean
really said, this is your this is your policy maker's playbook. Well,
if you don't want to fund the police, you want
to fund safe spaces.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
For two spirit individuals. What is a two spirit person?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
I feel like I'm looking at a two faced individual
because you talk about Regina.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Sorry, you're looking at somebody who's reading you your own words.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I'd like to hear an answer that was a decent perry,
I mean, just to try to switch the topic. I mean,
oh yeah, because he wasn't a bad spot. He wasn't
a bad spot that often these are gotchas that I
don't like. That's a perfectly legitimate gotcha. This is your report.
I'm asking what this means.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
And there's a little more. They know exactly what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
They did it the last four years.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
They took money away from cops, they took money away
from ice, they took money away from law enforcement. And
what did they spend it on in Blue City after
Blue City?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
This kind of.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Gobbledegook garbage, This safe space is this, hold your hand,
Kumbaya two spirit trans this and that, and then they
wonder why our cities are in shambles, and they sit
there and throw stones at Donald Trump as he sends
in the National Guard to restore order.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I'm actually surprised that guy couldn't answer that question.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
All right. I mean, I'm a hip enough to the
whole progressive thing. I can tell you what that is.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
It's an Indian thing.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Well right, yeah, but he's just about funneling the money
to activist groups with this is the excuse. So he
hasn't bothered to become an expert on the excuse that
SU's wild.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, how embarrassing. Nice job.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Josh Hawley and then Jackson, who was seriously injured in
a shooting in twenty thirteen, yelled, as someone who's been
shot nearly killed, I take offense that you would think
that the last thirteen years were not focused on reducing violence.
Holly shouted back, I take offence that you did not
answer my question, that you deny your own words, that
you are leading this committee astray, and frankly, sir, your
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polities are policies are absurd.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
They're absurd. I start calling more things absurd. This is absurd.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It is a great old word. That is like if.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
There's not ketchup on the table at the restaurant. This
is absurd.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
All right, So the whole it's funny. Half an hour
after I said, is anything happening on this, the whole
Hamas Israel thing is apparently about to move into a
new phase.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
God, I would say so. And so my Ukraine and Russia,
which we got to talk about later. Yipes, got a
lot on the way. If you miss it, get the
podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty. Okay,
this is a pretty big deal. So Donald Trump just
truthed this out where I actually said yesterday I wish
he'd put a definite timeline deadline on the whole Mosas
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thing Hammas thing, because he'd been just saying, if they
don't do it by this weekend, well when's this weekend
Friday at six or Sunday at mid dine or you
know you can't have a wishy washy deadline. At least
wishy washy deadlines don't work for me. Well, we have
a deadline now Donald Trump's post just from minutes ago.
Hamas has been a ruthless and violent threat for many
years in the Middle East. This is long by the
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way they have killed and made lives unbearably miserable, culminating
with the October seventh massacre in Israel. Babies, women, children,
old people, and many young men and women, boys and
girls getting ready to celebrate their future lives together retribution
for the October seventh attack on civilization. More than twenty
five thousand Hamas soldiers have already been killed. Most of
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the rest are surrounded and in all caps militarily trapped,
just waiting for me to give the word go for
their lives to be quickly extinguished. Wow. As for the rest,
we know where and who you are, and you will
be hunted down and killed. I'm asking that all innocent
Palestinians immediately lead this area of potentially great future death
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for safer parts of Gaza. Everyone will be well cared
for by those that are waiting to help. Fortunately for Hamas, however,
they will be given one last chance. Great powerful and
very rich nations of the Middle East and the surrounding
areas beyond, together with the United States of America, have
agreed with Israel signing on to peace in all caps
after three thousand years in the Middle East. Now this
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sentence is all caps. This deal also spares the lives
of all remaining Hamas fighters. The details of the document
are known to the world, and it is a great
one for all. We have peace in the Middle at
least one way or another. The violence and bloodshed will stop.
Release the hostages, all of them, including the bodies of
those that are dead. Now that is at all caps.
An agreement must be reached with AMAS by Sunday evening
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at six pm Washington DC time every country has signed on.
If this last chance agreement is not reached, all hell
in caps like no one has ever seen before, will
break out against Tomas. There will be piece of them
at least one way or another, all caps. Thank you
for your attention to this matter. Trump is amazing and
(20:34):
utterly unique. I'd say, I'd sw wow.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Of course, TAMAS is desperate to keep those civilians right
where they are at the day. Way will prevent civilians
from fleeing at the point of a gun.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I think those civilians then will be collateral damage because
Israel is going to do what it's going to do.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And NPR will blame Israel for it, of course, but
there's nothing you can do about that.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
That's a pretty unequivocal statement.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, yeah, and we the world needs more unequivocal statements
and fewer mush mouthed you know, mouthing of pleasantries and
cliches and and hopes. No, that's not the way the
world works, never been the way the world works.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Well, wars have to end, right and uh like he
says there's going to be peace one way or the other,
I mean temporary piece piece.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Ish yeah yeah, oh my god, Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
All will break loose.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Okay, Well, I believe that there are there are the
usual suspects, your European countries and the Yue still talking
about a two state solution, yeah all right, or or
you know, recognizing the Palestinian state and all that is
the polar opposite, that is the realism of Trump.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Because that is unicorn, right, fantasy land.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Right, and most of them know that. But they mouth
that for consumer or the you know, it's like their
their domestic audiences and or the met It's.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Just like being pacifist. I mean, you get all you
get all the credit for being good and nice and
everything like that, but you're not living in reality in
any way.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Right, go be a pacifist in Ukraine or Nigeria or
something like that. You don't get to be a pacifist
protected by the mightiest military in the history of the
earth anyway. Well, that will be interesting one way or
the other, guaranteed, God, I'd say, so, I want to
talk about something that's not going to end in kind
(22:42):
of Ay, whatever happened with that.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Right, that is not why it's going to be So
three o'clock my time on the West Coast. Okay, well
that's what I'll do on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, yeah, all right, what's that? Are you in the
mood for something completely different?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Hells?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah? So you may remember I mentioned this a couple
of times and we never got to it. Gosh, it
was a month ago, a piece from the Wall Street Journal.
My family went off ultra processed foods for a month.
The results surprised us, and we just never got to it.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Got I heard a little bit about this yesterday, and
I thought, I've got to make an effort for me
and the boys to eat less ultra processed food. It's
just so eat One, it's yummy. Two were addicted to it. Three,
it's everywhere. I could come up with many reasons why
it's hard to quit well dig this stuff. We're gonna
start with clips sixty Michael and go from there. It's
the so cute Alexandria Hoff on Special Report last night
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talking about upfs as we're calling.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Them now these days. Saves time instead of ultra processed foods.
So many syllables, let's hear sixty Michael.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
So a lot of this has been talked about in
the context of what we're feeding our children, but new
research out of the University of Michigan finds that older
Americans are the most addictive to the additive heavy nutrient
light products known as ultra process foods. The study finds
that UPF addiction is far out pacing reliance on alcohol
or tobacco, especially so for women age fifty to sixty four,
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where twenty one percent qualified as having a UPF addiction.
That was determined with the same criteria used to diagnose
substance use disorders. For men in the same age group,
it was ten percent. High consumption was then associated with
poor perception of mental and physical health and feelings of isolation.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I feel like this a version to upfs is much
higher than to alcohol and tobacco among women.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, this is the first time I've ever thought about
it being in an addiction, and I'm a little confused
by that. But that's interesting because I don't feel like
I'm an addict. Like you know, if you're addicted to
whatever you're addicted to, it's not just because it's cheap
and easy to get to.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, not to be a flip, but something you want
a lot all the time, even though you know it's
not good for you. That could just be laziness.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
It's it's like eighty percent of my day next things
I shouldn't be doing.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
According to the study, it comes down to this population
being in a developmentally sensitive stage of life during the
seventies and eighties quote precisely when tobacco owned food manufacturers
were shaping the market with addictive up apps.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
If I met, so, that's why women in their fifties
and sixties are especially allegedly addictive to this stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
If it's not just that I like it and that
it's cheap and easy, it's I'm actually addicted to it.
That makes me want to stop even more.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Next clip, Michael, and this raises concerns for addiction levels
to come. The Trump Administration's MAHA report, released last month
underscores that nearly seventy percent of American American child's calories
come from upfs, which is far more than what older
generations consumed as kids.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Now.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
As for why the addiction rate is higher and older
women versus men, well, researchers theorize that aggressive weight control
marketing in the eighties could be to blame for that,
at selling women and girls in low fat microwavable karp
any products that only made things worse.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
That's right, that was a big thing.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, I'm not I've heard so many things called addictions,
and I think sometimes that word gets thrown around a
little too easily. But I am very very intrigued about
this one. And then to the article from the journal,
which I have refound. It's this gallous journalist who decided
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or agreed to completely avoid UPFS for her family for
a month to see what they all thought of it.
The results proved transformative. Removing upfs dramatically altered my daughter's
eating habits. It changed mine even more. These effects persuaded
my husband, who began the experiment as a skeptical observer,
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to wean himself off ultra processed foods too, And she
gets into They agreed on a simple definition so that
her daughter could easily identify upfs too. They went shopping together,
and that's essentially if you see an ingredient that you
don't you can barely pronounce. I mean, you have to
like sound it out you don't know what it is,
avoid it, don't buy it, which is a little broad,
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but that's useful.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Well, Michael, I was just thinking, so, like, a frozen
pizza probably has a gazillion ingredients on there. I don't
know yes of that. But if I get a pizza
from a restaurant and delivered, did they use ingredients that
are ultra processed food? So I'm doing the same thing.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Probably not, Okay, probably not, So, she writes, dis eliminated
all foods with artificial flavors and anything with refined flowers,
including most store bought crackers, cereals, breads, pretzels, granola bars,
and the baked goods at our local coffee shops. It
meant giving up a bunch of our favorite foods cheese its,
ritz crackers, pirates, booty bagels, pita chips, what milk, chocolate
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and flavored sparkling waters?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Are you sitting around eating cheese its and pirates, booty
past the age of ten?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Please?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Don't we stocked.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Up on whole in mintie mimimally processed foods, including oatmeal,
plain yogurt, fresh cheeses, beans, nuts, canfish, canned fish, canned fish.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
All right, I'll sit around and eat nuts. There's a
number of things I'll chomp on as a snack. I'm
not gonna eat canned fish. Well probably, I'm probably like to,
but I'm still probably I'd gonna sit on the couch
washing a game with a can of fish, you know,
like tuna that's fine, which is probably not gonna be
my go to snack.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Plus popcorn, fruits, well just say it, junkie. Then fruits
and veggies, fresh and frozen, et cetera. Here's the crazy intro.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Anybody, huh, get one while I go to the fridge.
So I have to make two trips.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
We decided that without UPFS, we could eat as much
as we wanted of the other foods, the good stuff,
and if we craved a sweet, we would bake it.
After a month, we would assess how we felt. We found, however,
that the changes came much sooner. About ten days in,
she writes, I noticed a striking shift. I wasn't constantly
thinking about food before. I carried around what some call
food noise. I had persistent nagging thoughts about what to
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eat next. That's interesting, and she mentioned several things, then says,
without UPFS, my cravings faded. I learned I'm not alone.
A randomized, controlled eight week trial involving fifty adults published
this month in Nature Medicine found that participants who switched
to a minimally processed diet lost weight and saw their
cravings decline. The guy who led the studies that I
(29:21):
was surprised by these findings. When people whose weight typically
their appetite or cravings increase, but we found the opposite.
My snacking duly plummeted. My daughter's eating habits followed suit.
By the third week, she did something I hadn't seen
in years. She had a homemade dinner with gusto, and
she mentions what it was, and it sounds quite nice.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
She'd been a picky eater, I thought, but that night
she gobbled it up and loved it and tasted you know,
all the foods.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
For me, way more than the yumminess and everything. It's
just the convenience. It's just so damned convenient. The extra
work it takes too not have a peanut butter sandwich
with the peanut butter and the bread both having a
lot of things any probably shouldn't eat.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
It's just so convenient to stay a junkie, living in
a tent and crapping on the sidewalk. Yes, it's his words.
I don't know if are with your cheese.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I don't know if I'm gonna end up an attent
crapping on the sidewalk because.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
You're a junkie. Listen to you, Listen to your excuses,
your denials.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
It is rationalization. The whole addiction thing is different, the
separating an addiction from a bad habit. They're not the
same thing. An addiction is not the same as a
bad habit. Nobody knows, nobody knows.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Nobody knows yeah, yeah, so listen. The Niners Rams game
last night was one of the best football games I've
ever witnessed, although it was very, very long.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Both my kids had homework and I had to help them.
Damn it.
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I will continue reviewing the new Taylor Swift album as
I've listened to the front to back and and a
lot of other news that we got going on. There's
some Russia Ukraine stuff that's highly troubling, coming on the
heels of what Trump just said about Israel. Wow, the
world is spicy stick around.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Many of you asked me this morning about sombreros and
memes and why how came Jeffreys is all alarmed by that. Look,
these are games, these are side shows. People are getting
caught up and battles over social media memes. We've got
to keep the this is not a game. We got
to keep the government open for the people. I don't
know why this is so complicated. And to my friend Hakim,
who I was asked about, man, just ignore it. I mean,
(32:29):
Gavin Newsom was troulling me last night.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
He painted me like a minion.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
He painted me yellow with big glasses and overalls, and
I thought it was hilarious. You don't respond to it
for all my friends, for all my friends, ours and d's,
don't respond to it. Get to work, do the people's business,
and let's get on with it.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Have you been following any Charlie Cook's writing in the
National Review about this, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
He thinks shutdowns should be a regular part of our system.
It just should happen on a regular basis. What's the
big deal. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
It's an evidence of dysfunction, I think. But I'll have
to read his reasoning. Yeah, I'm fine with this one.
I don't care. I mean, they got to get it
going eventually. But so we've mentioned a couple of times
that if the Republicans give on one aspect of this,
the experiment in self governance is over. And that's only
half a joke. It's specifically, and I'm quoting from the Journal,
(33:28):
that the President has projected what they call unwavering confidence
that he is winning the messaging war over the government shutdown.
But behind the scenes, his team is increasingly concerned that
the issue at the center of the debate will create
political vulnerabilities for Republicans. Specifically, it's some of those obvious
common sense reforms on Medicare. Advisors are worried the GOP
(33:55):
will take the blame for allowing healthcare subsidies to expire,
raising costs from millions of Americans of next year's midterm elections.
According to the administration officials, here's the deal. During COVID,
the Democrats passed temporary boosts to who's eligible and how
it's going to work, and how much money you get.
(34:15):
And those boosts allowed able bodied people who ought to
be working to get heavily taxpayer subsidized healthcare health insurance. Really,
it permitted a lot of illegal immigrants to jump on
the rolls, and it permitted a lot of these zero
cost plans that, as we were discussing yesterday, something like
(34:36):
forty percent of those made zero claims last year. But
the insurance companies were still paid for them by the taxpayers,
and a lot of these people were unaware they were
even enrolled. And so that's all the Republicans are trying
to do is rain in those mainly those three things.
(34:56):
And if they think, you know the whole you're taking
healthcare away from p it's a good message, and we're
afraid if we stand up to him, we'll be blamed. Yeah,
let's let's go ahead and give in on this one. Yeah.
I just I think we're doomed.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
It's troubling because it's a lot like the voting stuff
was where they relaxed all kinds of voting rules during
COVID because it was so hard to vote, and then
when you tried to go back to the old way,
it was portrayed his voter suppression.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, Nazism, Jim Crow on stereo.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, and the mainstream media, you know, went along with it,
and a lot of people who weren't paying close attention
were confused. And the Republicans are afraid that that, or
Trump anyway is afraid that that same thing will happen here.
The mainstream media will portray it, of course as taking
away people's health care, even though it was a supposed
to be a short term emergency sort of thing during COVID,
(35:47):
we portrayed as and people will believe that it's taking
away people's healthcare. And Trump, you know, for better or worse,
and I think this is worse. It's not an idea
log and that he'd I don't know if he's an
idea log on anything other than tariffs. Even the border
might just be because he sees it such an easy
winning issue that eighty five percent of people are in
agreement with. I don't know if he's an idy log
(36:09):
on hardly anything. And if he thinks this is going
to hurt chances in the midterms, I can see how
he would give on this, and then you're right, Then
there's nobody's courage. It is discouraging.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I mean, you want to talk about the high cost
of good intentions. This is a very short term, easily explained,
you know, fairly insignificant program that got boosted briefly for
a specific reason. Now we're just going to take it
back to normal because I mean, there's so many problems
(36:42):
with the boost. It was so sloppy and expensive. Got
to rein it in. But those who would grow the
government and do nothing but grow the government can make
a powerful enough case. Everybody gets scared and says, no,
we can't do that, we can't do that. We're done
as a people. There you go as a government system Friday,
what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? Personally,
(37:03):
I'm gonna arm myself and go door to door and
loot my neighbors and the Chasus.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
That's one option.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Steal their stuff, you know, kiss their wives, bet their dogs. Wow.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
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