October 9, 2025 • 35 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- Seattle mayor lax on crime & rehab
- A lavender marriage
- The Palisades fire arsonist
- Celebrity Gender Bending Madness!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty arm Strong and
Katty and no He Armstrong and Yetty which in gears.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
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knowing that someone very sick touched them right before you.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
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claw machines.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
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me another five bucks. I'll get this out.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
That's pretty funny. I don't know anything about that, but
that was a funny joke.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
So the mayor of Seattle is a fellow by the
name of Bruce Harrell who is the living embodiment of progressivism.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
He's recently signed an order.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
To neutralize ice doing anything in Seattle and the counter
federal troop deployments and that sort of thing. He's just
he's died in the progressive as you might expect from
the mayor of Seattle. He is running for re election,
and they had a debate the other day and Fox
(01:30):
thirteen in Seattle asking some really good questions about crime
and repeat offenders and that sort of thing, and his
answers are getting the attention they deserve.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Michael will start with ninety is the city two lax
on repeat offenders?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
That's an interesting question. I don't know how to answer
that question to lax I don't know how you yes,
you've answered, you gaged that. I know it's necessary to
catch criminals in the act of doing bad things. And
I have all the faith in my police department. Who
is the best practice in terms of using force. I
(02:08):
need fifteen hundred officers, I need constitutional arrests. I need
people that are killing themselves with drugs to get help,
get treatment. So I'm not going to give an opinion
on the attitude of my officers. I look at them
in the eye and I tell them this is my vision.
George Floyd was murdered purely and simply, and I need
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you to recruit culturally competent officers. And we created the
Care Department, which is an unarmed response the largest sit
in the country to do this. So whether the lacks
not for me, in all due respect, is just not
the question. The questions are the effective, and they are
very effective. I just need to get my numbers up
because the defund movement demoralized the police department. I was
down three hundred when he started. But the good news
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is we get we're getting ten applications a day.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Okay. That he did the politician thing. George Bush taught
us about this. He said it out loud one time.
He said, if you don't like the question somebody asks you,
you answer a different question. That's what that guy did
because he he where George Floyd come in police officers?
The question was are you ping two lacks on repeat defenders?
He didn't want to answer that question right right.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Two things.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Number one, just to correct the record, he was the
interim mayor for a cup of coffees, not the incumbent.
And secondly, he said, I want people who are addicted
to drugs to get help. Wall Street Journal with a
great story today on expose a drug rehabs lower in
patience for insurance money, then leave them on the street.
In the best of circumstances. And this is the least
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known fact maybe in you know, the conversation about an
important issue in America. In the best of circumstances, these
rehabs places have a very very low padding.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Oh, it's like the low like two percent. I mean
it's not like low like a third. Now, it's low
like almost nobody. And that's generally of people that want
to quit that are going to those kind of rehabs.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
There are politicians.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Are always talking about putting people in rehabs who have
no interest in quitting.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So you're writing average on that it's going to be
close to zero.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
And then you've got all the scammers in the rehab
business who couldn't give a crap whether they get off
anybody off drugs or not.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's close to a scam anyway, even the people that
are well intentioned using my finger quotes, since it almost
never works. I mean, you know, I could really, really
really want to have these magic beans grow a big
tree for you.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But if it doesn't happen, it's kind of a scam.
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
If the number is low enough, the percentage is low enough,
you could argue that that's just chance. I mean, those
people would have gotten clean, whether they've done that or
pressure or you know, gone surfing in Australia for a month.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Anyway, more from the debate, Arre Harrol, I'm.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
Going to go back to that repeat offender question. If
somebody has offended six, seven, eight times, even if it's
a minor offense, but they continue to fail to turn
their life around, at what point do you balance public
safety to giving this person, you know, some accountability.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
What is that the ones? So let me make something
very clear.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
I was the one to sponsor the band the box
legislation when everyone posts because the criminal system has had
a desparate impact on black and brown communities, let.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Me lead with that.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
So when this person is committing six or seven crimes,
I didn't know his or her story.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Maybe they were abused as a child, maybe they're hungry.
So my.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Remedy is to find their life story to see how
we can help. First, I have no desire to put
them in jail, but I need to protect you. And
that's the calibration that we have. I put police officers
on the stand. I've cross examined them, So whether they
commit seven or eight crimes to me is not the issue.
The issue is why are they committing these crimes?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
How can you live in a city where a mayor
thinks that I don't care if they commit seven or
eight crimes?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Wow? Thanks, Well, you're protecting me well, you're getting.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
To the bottom of the fact that they, you know,
are kind of bitter because they didn't make their little
league team or whatever. Uh, They're going to commit more
crimes and hurt more people and often killed them, like
that poor Ukrainian girl in North Carolina or a dozen
other examples just in the last few months.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, well, I think that is unfair.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I have in my mind the book In Cold Blood
because it came up in conversation with somebody yesterday. Because
if you've ever seen the movie or read the book,
that the clutter House is very close to where I
grew up, I know where it is in Hkom, Kansas.
But murdered an entire family, murdered an entire family for
no reason what's or robbed them kind of. But the
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story of In Cold Blood, if you've never read it
by Truman Capodi, and you should, is mostly the background
of these two guys who had horrible, horrible childhoods, I mean,
just unspeakably awful. Not so you know, getting to the
hole they didn't make their little league team, but which
is very disappointed by the way, But how are you
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going to craft any sort of society where you excuse
any crimes because you had a bad childhood or your
wife left you, or whatever your situation is.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
It's impossible.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
You're living in La la land, right, Well, yeah, like
so many progressives are. But yeah, put them in jail
and get them in a program or something to anger management, counseling,
take class, take take ditties how to get ahead in
business class that he was dating there in New York.
But get him off the damn streets, you soft headed dreamer.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Tell them to make lemonades, lemonade out of lemons.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I don't know, do something, But you can't let them
just go out and commit more crimes.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And that's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
How And this is the argument I got into in
a city council meeting in my town about the whole
homeless thing. When do you look out for the people
that are doing it the right way? So I had
a good childhood and I'm paying taxes and I don't
commit crimes, and I get to be robbed or beaten
because that guy had a bad childhood.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I mean, what kind of sense does that make to anybody?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I have a PhD In translating progressive speech, and you
know this is true because you've seen it over and
over again. What Bruce Harrold said was we're gonna let
the person offend over and over again till they murder someone,
and only then will we stop them.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
So whether they commit seven or eight crimes to me
is not the issue.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, you know, A better example would be what about
the person who had a bad childhood and has overcome
it and is not committing crimes and then they get
robbed or beaten? Okay, now what dude, Lots of people
have bad childhoods. They don't all end up criminals on
the street as drug addicts. I know that for a fact.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
We all do well.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
And I like the fact that he says maybe they
were abused, terrible, terrible. Maybe they were hungry. I'm hungry now, Bruce,
right now, and I'm committing zero crimes. Crimes against good
taste perhaps, but that's it.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
So when this person's committing such or say crimes, I
don't know his or her story. Maybe they were abused
as a child, Maybe they're hungry.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Got it's maybe they're hungry. Yeah, let's see, I'm freattle.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You can.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
You can eat yourself to obesity for nothing. In Seattle,
as a junkie and everybody knows it. You're a Marxist
and a nut.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, I mean you're I know some people like this
that have that same belief and very very very nice
people that I don't like this, and just yeah, I
don't know how you get that way. Can't talk them
out of it. It's just your Your theory does not
work in real life. That's the problem.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah, And that that's the problem with so many progressive theories.
And part of that is and I sympathize with this
sort of person.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'm glad I'm not one of them.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
They cannot reckon with the fact that there are just
bad people, mean people, there's evil in the world and
it could hurt them.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
What they want to.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Believe, because it's a psychological self protective mechanism, is that
all of the bad people who hurt people can be
redeemed if we're just nice enough to them. They believe
that to protect themselves from the fear that they feel
reckoning with the existence of evil.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Godam, What is your life experience with the rehabs that
you're talking about. What is your life experience that these
work and the therapy works very often on you had
a bad childhood or whatever your issue is.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So are you going to fix these people?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
It's it would be it would be impossible from a
cost standpoint, even if rehabs and therapy did work, to
take everybody who's got problems and fix them, even if.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It did work. But it doesn't work. So now what right?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Oh? And by the way, his opponent, his main opponent,
Katie Wilson. Wilson is a longtime progressive activist.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Who was asking those questions. Good job there, and see
I'm surprised they even asked those questions.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Fox thirteen, Seattle, Well done. Good for them. Man, oh man,
oh man.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
It's horribly robbed or beaten or raped or killed, obviously,
no matter what.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
But if it turns out.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
It's somebody that does it repeatedly, repeatedly and in your
moron Marxist mayor police chief or da or whoever let
them do it over and over again, that is just
salt in the wound. Man.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Well, yeah, and the phrase blood is on their hands
is probably a little overused, but that is absolutely the
case here. Your suffering and pain and loss for the
rest of your life is on their hands.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
That guy's fault.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yes, yeah, what a scumbag. He doesn't think he's a scumbag.
He thinks I'm a scumbag.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
For moment, probably considers him the conservative in the race.
So good luck, Freeattle. Keep trying policies that are miserable failures,
because as they stoke your ego.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I'll save you the eight hundred.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
The time when I had the incident with the homeless
people in my family and my kids were crying, and
I called the cops and everything like that, the first
cops said to me, well, the real tragedy is that
we don't have someplace to put this guy to get
him help. While my kids are crying. The guy said
that you freaking lunatics. Oh it makes me insane. All right,
we got more on the way. I hope you can
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stay here.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
So whether they commit seven or eight crimes to me
is not the issue.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Get out of my shot, ready, every single one of
you game, Nathan Lucas moles straw A, your mother takes
everybody every day starts Bresnan.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
New Oh why are people not more upset?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
We're about to have foreigners headed toward our world series
here pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
If we're not careful, Foreigners.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Surprised Trump hasn't stepped in here trying to blue jay
annex them or something.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Eliminated the Yankees last night and the upstart team that
has the fourth highest payroll in all of Major League
Baseball beat the team with the third highest payroll, So
they're you know, they're rich team.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Also, So anyway, Canadian.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Toronto forces from Toronto invade New York is my headline.
Speaking of headlines. He's gay, she's straight. They're happily married.
Samantha Wynn Greenstone knows her husband is gay. Okay, she
knew he was gay when they met, blah blah blah,
when he proposed when they got married in November. He's
not bisexual, she's not in denial. That hasn't stopped them
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from being in a committed monogamous relationship for nearly ten
years that they're calling what because I came across this
term the other day A lavender marriage?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, I saw that. I don't remember the context. I
came across lavender marriage and I thought, what is that?
And I forgot to google it? So these are lavender
marriages a gay guy and a straight woman.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Can it be?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
They also use terms like platonic marriage, queer platonic, a
romantic or mixed orientation, and the number of people doing
this is probably less than attended your local little league
game last week. But the Washington Post is pretending it's
some sort of significant trend. Why. I don't know these
these people that are featured are their entire living is
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creating content online about their revolutionary relationship.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Their lavender marriage.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
But what's the supposed upside? I don't get what the
It sounds like you both would be unhappy, So what's
the point. I'm with somebody who doesn't like me. I'm
with somebody who doesn't like me. We call it a
lavender marriage.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Oh, they're like.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Super close friends. Well good, they love each other. That's nice,
which is a big part of marriage, most of it.
They have a kid together, by the way, And when
asked how the kid happen, actually, the guy says, well,
we birds and beesed it. So he overcame. His gain
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is long enough to impregnate his wife, so he closed
his eyes and thought of England and went ahead through
with it. And or you know, Burt Reynolds, or I
don't know how old this guy is, probably Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Burt.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I see, I was trying to picture some handsome man.
That's why I got thrown off by your Burt Reynolds.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I was trying to think of I guess Studley manly man.
All right, my references are out of date. It happens,
all right, Yeah, I know, yeah, fair criticism. The guy
who plays thor, that's a good one to throw around.
What's his name? Him and his brother?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that fella. I know that fella.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Anyway, let's see blah blah blah. This is the first
committed relationship Hoff the woman has ever been in. Oh
that's I'm sorry. The dude first relationship he's ever been in.
Both parties felt a deep connection when they met, but
neither had marriage on their minds. That began to change
after Greenstone saw a spiritual healer they do live in
La after all, who told her that she and Hoff's
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wear it a spiritual umbilical chord. We quit using terms
like that, I know, and quit trying to convince me
this is some sort of trend Washington Post, please.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Anyway, I know. Why does that get people all excited?
A certain kind of crowd to come up with new
different things as supposed to just do what everybody's done
forever and been perfectly happy with.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Well, and here are these two people who are both
a sexual evidently and are quote unquote married, but one
identifies as solo Polly. That means they occasionally date outside
their marriage. Here's something, all right, all right, it's you know,
it's part of the whole postmodern dei neo Marxist thing
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where every single convention has to be challenged.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Right, yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
We've got a gender bending Madness update coming that includes
a therapist to talking about you think.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Trains is interesting? Why do you hear this one?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
And featuring California's favorite politician, the Angry Angry Katie.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Porter as well.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Oh really, wow, beyond the trend, that's all on the way.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Investigators say they found the suspect and arrested him in Florida,
where he currently lives now, but at one point he
lived in the Pacific Palisades, about a block away from
the trailhead where investigators believe this fire began. Then they
extracted data from his phone, including an image that he
apparently produced on chat gbt if that shows a city
burning with people fleeing. They also say that he was
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listening to a French song on repeat. Apparently he was
raised in France, New French and this song shows the
main character in the music video lighting things on fire.
Investigators say it went through thirteen thousand pieces of evidence.
He is facing a minimum of five years up to
twenty years in federal prison.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I don't know how it's not more than that if
it turned out to be, although he seems kind of crazy.
Jonathan Render connect he's a twenty nine year old Florida
man uber driver who started the fire that burned down
seven thousand homes and buildings and caused one hundred and
fifty billion dollars in damage and killed twelve people and
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wrecked many many lives, some of them. We know people
that we know. This guy's really a nutjob, this arsonist
that they arrested yesterday. By the way, he was a
Biden donor if that matters to you. It doesn't matter
to me. That sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Doesn't mean much to me.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
But are you the most interesting part of this to me,
if you're going to get to it, all, shut up,
But is the fact that he lit a fire. It
was put out and he offered to help put it out,
and it smoldered underground for days.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah that's a scary thought, Yeah it is. So he
brings till the high winds, the Santa Ana winds whipped
up again. So he'd lived in La.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
He'd hiked the trail on New Year's Day, moments after
dropping off uber passengers, who later said that the driver
appeared agitated and angry.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
They said he.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Then filmed himself on the mountain and listened to a
rap track with themes of despair and bitterness by some
French rapper I don't know whose. Accompanying music video shows
the main character lighting things on fire, so that apparently
is where the fire idea came from. He had been
listening to a song and watching the video. Lyrics from
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the song include daily life is killing me, I feel
like I'm nowhere, and too much bitterness in my head.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I think about the mistakes we made.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
This gets to the thing we were talking about a
couple of weeks ago, where a lot.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Of the high.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Profile violence of any kind, whether it's a school shooting
or killing politicians or setting fires, apparently it's a suicide.
It's a suicide dressed up with other stuff around.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
And apparently in the modern world where if our baby
takes its first steps, it's no fun unless we got
it on video and posted it on Twitter. The same
thing is true for suicides. Your suicide is no good
unless you can somehow get attention.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
For it or you're short of suicide cry for help,
which this seems to be. You think that's what it was,
just an expression of I'm in pain, please notice.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, yeah, So, as Joe's pointing out, he watched the
fire burn for a minute before running down the heel
and calling nine to one one immediately and fleeing the area,
but then later returned to the scene where the firefighters
responded to record them battling the flames. He got some
YouTube videos of them fighting the flames that he started
months before the blaze. The alleged fire razor made disturbing
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chat GPT prompts man, one thing that's interesting when all
of these things happen is how we all live leave
a digital footprint about everything we do, right, and the
authorities have access to all of it. Anyway, They went
into his chat GPT. We'd been requesting a grim dystopian
painting divided into distinct parts that blend together seamlessly, with
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a burning forest on the far left in a crowd
of people sprinting from the fire. He wanted that image
created by chat Gpt right. On a separate occasion, he
told chat gpt that he had literally burnt a Bible,
boasting that he felt amazing and so liberated after he
burnt the Bible.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Well, he created another picture that had similar with people
fleeing a fire, but on one side of the wall were
poor people fleeing the fire, and on the other side were.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
The rich laughing.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Oh okay, so drawn to some sort of Marxist gobbledegook crap.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So, whether it's Charlie Kirk's killer or this guy or whoever,
if they turn out to be half to three quarters
of a nut job, what do we get out of
this or what do we do with it?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Or does it mean anything?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
It seems like this sort of thing is happening more often,
more nut jobs are.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Causing more trouble.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know that's a book length answer
because I think no connected, it's just one more well,
I know, I just need dictatorial powers to implement my plan.
But it's just one more symptom of you know, the
great disease that Western civilization is suffering from, techno affluent malaise.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, I say so. Next hour, I really want.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
To get to a book, maybe the number one book
in Europe right now. If Russia wins a scenario written
by a professor of international politics at Munich's Bundesverer University,
which serves Germany's armed forces, and he's talking about what
the next steps will look like as Russia continues to expand,
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and it is horrifyingly plausible.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I want to read that. I will read that, But.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I think if you're ready to we can break on time,
actually a little early for once in our lives, and
leave plenty of time. Next segment for a jam packed,
celebrity strewn, gender bending madness update featuring the angriest politician
in America, California's Katie Porter.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
Shot also feature Don't Sit on Me, also featuring a therapist,
and I'll give away a bit of the punchline, but
not all of it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
She had a person come to her that didn't identify
as a woman or a man, but as a dog,
and when she took it to her higher ups, the
way they reacted to how she should respond to that
is the interesting part. Oh what the hell? Anyway, we
got all that on the way, stay here, so our four,
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I almost said, hour five.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
What am I talking about? We don't have a fifth hound?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Good lord, our four. We'll get back into the peace
deal in the Middle East, which is a giant historic thing,
and everybody's given Trump credit. People that hate Trump are saying, yeah,
this is pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
So we'll look forward to that, and perhaps Vladimir Putin
is not done with Ukraine and wants to expand even.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Further how that would look.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
But first, it's a gender bending Madness special Update featuring
California's bitterest politician, Katie Porter and special guest co host
Jack Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
So I kept cheering about this thing called the Local.
We're a brave world, and I'm un a rave. Yeah,
I'm dancing cool.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
So this video is a little hard to listen to
because it's edited the way you young people like things edited,
where you take out any space, any pause between people speaking.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Why do you added stuff like that? Are you trying
to make yourself insane? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
A therapist friend of mine actually makes their living in
the World with therapy sent this to me. This is
a therapist discussing a discussing it is disgusting, discussing a
recent thing that happened, and then the way it plays
out is quite amazing.
Speaker 10 (25:16):
I had been a therapist at Multi Care hospital in
Washington State for about five years. In March of twenty
twenty three, I had a client come in, a female
client and say that they identified as a wounded mail dog.
And I had heard people come in before and say like,
I feel like I'm actually transgender, and I just had
kind of treated them the way I treated any other client.
But at this point, when this client came in and
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said that, I was like, at what point is someone's
identity actually a mental illness? And so I emailed my boss,
I emailed my colleagues and I said, hey, I had
a client come in and say that they identified as
a wounded male dog. They said, you just basically say awesome,
I'm glad you know who you are, and you continue
to be a therapist. So I kind of just kept
thinking this stuff through, like what is going on here
with this gender identity in the way that we are
treating these young children. And then September of twenty twenty,
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we had a mandatory gender of firming care training and
so I just like researched everything I could about gender
firming care. It wasn't that easy to do, Like I
would google, like what are the dangers of gender firming
care and the result would be like how to be
a good friend your LGBTQ. I had written a letter
saying that I would not go to this training, and
I said to all the people that I found who
were giving a voice to the fact that we're hurting children,
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I said, please read this for me. Tell me that
I'm not wrong, because I might lose my job over this.
And I got emails back and said, you're not wrong,
You're absolutely right, but you have to go to this
training because if you don't, they're just going to fire
you and then you lose your influence.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
So the fact that her co workers and bosses and
everybody said, well you just say, you know, good for
figuring out who you are a wounded male dog and
say you care about them or something.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I mean, how crazy is that? Anyway, she goes on.
Speaker 10 (26:52):
We talked through some questions that I could potentially ask,
and when the opportunity presented itself. I said things like, hey,
you know, if countries in Europe are pressing pause on this,
why are we mandating this of our clinicians now. They
were like, you are doing harm to our patients. Keep
politics out of this. I was like politics, Like I
didn't say anything about the president, Like I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
The person that was doing the.
Speaker 10 (27:11):
Training was like, this is not up for debate, And
no point did anyone say like, let's like look at
this research together and figure out whether or not there's
anything here. Why would that not be a conversation that
you would want to engage in.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
They basically just.
Speaker 10 (27:22):
Said there is no reason why a person's mental health
would impact their identity. It doesn't matter if they've had
a history of trauma, it doesn't matter if there's co
occurring disorders.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Oh my god, it's obscene. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
So the don't bring your politics into this gets into
the whole. You have to take every issue, or your
people try to get you to take every issue and
run it through the So is Trump for ror against this,
is MAGA for this against this? And then then you
make your decision from there, which is crazy. Like she said,
I didn't mention the president, what do you mean politics?
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A guy thinks he's a woman thinks she's a wounded
male dog. That's nuts, right, Well, And the gal making
the point that why don't we all take a look
at the research together and see what's in there, it's
because there is no The research that exists is garbage.
It's been disavowed by any reasonable standard or reasonable actor
in this field. The whole you've got to firm the
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gender that kill themselves is an utter fiction.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
There's nothing to support it.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Well, the fact that ninety percent of kids pre pubescents
who express a doubt about their gender just come back
in alignment.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And I don't even use the term gender.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
What am I doing that they think I'm a different
sex than I really am?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Or why to identify as that?
Speaker 4 (28:37):
They all come back to sanity if you talk to
them gently and counsel them to which on a side,
on a side. I finally finished listening to the entire
hour and a half of oral arguments before the Supreme
Court in the Salazar case, in which even the lefty
justices were like, wait a minute, you're saying you can
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encourage gender transoian, but you can't discourage it. No, matter what,
based on this research, and you're calling it an established
standard of care.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Really, Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
So I think this is going to be an ass
kick and it could even be nine to nothing, I hope.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Anyway, back to you, So.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Back to this therapist. She's got a story here. This
is the sort of thing that always angers Joe.
Speaker 10 (29:20):
And then I had a client come in, a thirteen
year old who was mostly nonverbal. She would just like
scroll on her phone and like rock back and forth.
She had a history of really intense trauma. And I
saw that she had a gender clinic appointment coming up,
her first one, and I asked her how she felt
about that, and she said she didn't know she had one.
And then after that initial appointment, her dad asked me
to write a letter to start testosterone, and so I
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emailed my boss and I emailed the person who did
the training, and I said, they want me to write
this letter for this young child to begin to stosterone,
and I just feel like there's so many reasons why
that's not a good idea. My boss came into my
office a few days later and was like, I want
you to know the person who did the training has
reported you to Risk Management I met with risk management
at numerous times. They ultimately determined.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
That I was the risk.
Speaker 10 (29:59):
They took the child from me, said I was incompetent
to work with gender distressed young people. And shortly thereafter
I left multi care and I went someplace else, And
three weeks after starting that new job, my article in
the Free Press came out.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Lost my job.
Speaker 10 (30:14):
Single mom of three little kids, I ended up opening
my own practice. I got letters from the state saying
I was being investigated for not being gender affirming.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
That's where we are today.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
What I would like to know is what happened to
that thirteen year old and almost entirely nonverbal girl whose
dad sets up this appointment and she is like, I
don't even know what you're talking about and wants to
start her on testosterone.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Holy freaking crap, right, these people are monsters.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
You are a monster, yeah, mutilating children and filling them
with these chemicals. And if you say, you know, I'd
really like to take a look at this research because
that seems odd to me, they will run you out
of the profession for asking the question and remind you
of the DEI training sessions you were forced to sit through.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Maybe and you know that dad was thrilled to have
a transgender kid and be able to tell everybody about it.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Oh yeah, Oh my god, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I find myself wondering why that child was uncommunicative and
had such terrible problems.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
But while that is horrifying and as if we need
to pile on anymore, there's a great piece in the
California Globe by Brenda Lebsack, who has spent her career
in education, talks about how in twenty eighteen, while she
was serving on the Orange Unified School Board in Orange, California,
she was reviewing the new Team Talk considered the It
was the new state compliant curriculum under the California Healthy
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Youth Act AB three twenty nine for legislative freakazoids who
remember that sort of thing, And she said, having worked
in public education from my entire career, I was alarmed
at what I found. It contained teachings about gender being
based on one's feelings. The teen Talk video told kids
you can be gender fluidder we're gender non conforming or
(32:01):
no gender. School is a place to change, an experiment
that is not only being taught in California schools. It's
required that it be taught in California schools. School is
a place to change in experiment with your gender.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I thought it was a place to learn math and reading.
Well it's clearly not.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
But it used the genderbread person to teach kids that
gender is ever expanding and ever evolving.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
At normalized polyamory, gender is multiple part.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
What was that phrase gender ever expanding and ever evolving?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
What? When?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
When did gender become an ever evolving thing? Like five
minutes ago? All right, I'm going to get to the
really interesting part.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
She brought this forward to parents and they were shocked,
and after strong public testimony, the board voted just four
to three to halt the program. A week later, the
ACLU sent a letter reprimanding them, claiming, quote, we fostered
an atmosphere of LGBTQ bias and cited a statistic that
eighty nine percent of California parents support comprehensive sex education. Curious,
(33:06):
I contacted the UC Berkeley professor behind the study. He
confirmed the two thousand and seven survey only measured support
for contraception and HIVSTD prevention versus abstinence only education.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
That is classic Martin Bailey argument there.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
The survey did not even ask about gender identity, pan sexuality,
or any of the Oh.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
You don't want to teach teenage girls about contraception, you monster.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Right, and they completely well I'll read what she says.
This meant the ACLU Equality California and Planned Parenthood, who
lobbied for AB thirty nine, used data that grossly myths
represented California parents. Decision makers were told nearly all parents
supported comprehensive sex out of this sort, when in reality
they never addressed the expanse of LGBTQ subjects now mandated
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in classrooms.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Well, and there's more, but you get the idea. I
wonder why so many people pulling their kids out of
public schools. I wonder what that's all about.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Well, and by the way, there's a different law that
says parents may not apt out or excuse their child.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Oh really they required Yeah, wow, I opted my kid
out of all of those classes because they got well,
I'm way too crazy.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
They're working hard to uh end that. I don't know
what to say at this point. This sickness. The neo
Marxist gender bending, radical gender theory, radical.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Queer theories right up there with critical race theory.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
It's out of the same philosophers and the same you know,
neo Marxist theories. It is so evil and so wrong
and so sick. Get your kids out of public schools
if you possibly can. And yeah, I know what that means.
I know it's hard. I know you can't afford it
in some cases. But if you can do it. Oh,
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I'm sorry. That was a gender bending madness update Michael. Michael,
you were asleep to switch again?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Uh, identify as a wounded dog and people a male dog,
wounded mail dogs right as a gender wounded in what sense?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
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Speaker 1 (00:43):
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me another five bucks. I'll get this out.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
That's pretty funny. I don't know anything about that, but
that was a funny joke.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
So the mayor of Seattle is a fellow by the
name of Bruce Harrell who is the living embodiment of progressivism.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
He's recently signed an order.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
To neutralize ice doing anything in Seattle and the counter
federal troop deployments and that sort of thing. He's just
he's died in the progressive as you might expect from
the mayor of Seattle. He is running for re election,
and they had a debate the other day and Fox
(01:30):
thirteen in Seattle asking some really good questions about crime
and repeat offenders and that sort of thing, and his
answers are getting the attention they deserve.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Michael will start with ninety is the city two lax
on repeat offenders?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
That's an interesting question. I don't know how to answer
that question to lax I don't know how you yes,
you've answered, you gaged that. I know it's necessary to
catch criminals in the act of doing bad things. And
I have all the faith in my police department. Who
is the best practice in terms of using force. I
(02:08):
need fifteen hundred officers, I need constitutional arrests. I need
people that are killing themselves with drugs to get help,
get treatment. So I'm not going to give an opinion
on the attitude of my officers. I look at them
in the eye and I tell them this is my vision.
George Floyd was murdered purely and simply, and I need
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you to recruit culturally competent officers. And we created the
Care Department, which is an unarmed response the largest sit
in the country to do this. So whether the lacks
not for me, in all due respect, is just not
the question. The questions are the effective, and they are
very effective. I just need to get my numbers up
because the defund movement demoralized the police department. I was
down three hundred when he started. But the good news
(02:49):
is we get we're getting ten applications a day.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Okay. That he did the politician thing. George Bush taught
us about this. He said it out loud one time.
He said, if you don't like the question somebody asks you,
you answer a different question. That's what that guy did
because he he where George Floyd come in police officers?
The question was are you ping two lacks on repeat defenders?
He didn't want to answer that question right right.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Two things.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Number one, just to correct the record, he was the
interim mayor for a cup of coffees, not the incumbent.
And secondly, he said, I want people who are addicted
to drugs to get help. Wall Street Journal with a
great story today on expose a drug rehabs lower in
patience for insurance money, then leave them on the street.
In the best of circumstances. And this is the least
(03:35):
known fact maybe in you know, the conversation about an
important issue in America. In the best of circumstances, these
rehabs places have a very very low padding.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Oh, it's like the low like two percent. I mean
it's not like low like a third. Now, it's low
like almost nobody. And that's generally of people that want
to quit that are going to those kind of rehabs.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
There are politicians.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Are always talking about putting people in rehabs who have
no interest in quitting.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So you're writing average on that it's going to be
close to zero.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
And then you've got all the scammers in the rehab
business who couldn't give a crap whether they get off
anybody off drugs or not.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's close to a scam anyway, even the people that
are well intentioned using my finger quotes, since it almost
never works. I mean, you know, I could really, really
really want to have these magic beans grow a big
tree for you.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But if it doesn't happen, it's kind of a scam.
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
If the number is low enough, the percentage is low enough,
you could argue that that's just chance. I mean, those
people would have gotten clean, whether they've done that or
pressure or you know, gone surfing in Australia for a month.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Anyway, more from the debate, Arre Harrol, I'm.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
Going to go back to that repeat offender question. If
somebody has offended six, seven, eight times, even if it's
a minor offense, but they continue to fail to turn
their life around, at what point do you balance public
safety to giving this person, you know, some accountability.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
What is that the ones? So let me make something
very clear.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
I was the one to sponsor the band the box
legislation when everyone posts because the criminal system has had
a desparate impact on black and brown communities, let.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Me lead with that.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
So when this person is committing six or seven crimes,
I didn't know his or her story.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Maybe they were abused as a child, maybe they're hungry.
So my.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Remedy is to find their life story to see how
we can help. First, I have no desire to put
them in jail, but I need to protect you. And
that's the calibration that we have. I put police officers
on the stand. I've cross examined them, So whether they
commit seven or eight crimes to me is not the issue.
The issue is why are they committing these crimes?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
How can you live in a city where a mayor
thinks that I don't care if they commit seven or
eight crimes?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Wow? Thanks, Well, you're protecting me well, you're getting.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
To the bottom of the fact that they, you know,
are kind of bitter because they didn't make their little
league team or whatever. Uh, They're going to commit more
crimes and hurt more people and often killed them, like
that poor Ukrainian girl in North Carolina or a dozen
other examples just in the last few months.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, well, I think that is unfair.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I have in my mind the book In Cold Blood
because it came up in conversation with somebody yesterday. Because
if you've ever seen the movie or read the book,
that the clutter House is very close to where I
grew up, I know where it is in Hkom, Kansas.
But murdered an entire family, murdered an entire family for
no reason what's or robbed them kind of. But the
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story of In Cold Blood, if you've never read it
by Truman Capodi, and you should, is mostly the background
of these two guys who had horrible, horrible childhoods, I mean,
just unspeakably awful. Not so you know, getting to the
hole they didn't make their little league team, but which
is very disappointed by the way, But how are you
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going to craft any sort of society where you excuse
any crimes because you had a bad childhood or your
wife left you, or whatever your situation is.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
It's impossible.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
You're living in La la land, right, Well, yeah, like
so many progressives are. But yeah, put them in jail
and get them in a program or something to anger management, counseling,
take class, take take ditties how to get ahead in
business class that he was dating there in New York.
But get him off the damn streets, you soft headed dreamer.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Tell them to make lemonades, lemonade out of lemons.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I don't know, do something, But you can't let them
just go out and commit more crimes.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And that's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
How And this is the argument I got into in
a city council meeting in my town about the whole
homeless thing. When do you look out for the people
that are doing it the right way? So I had
a good childhood and I'm paying taxes and I don't
commit crimes, and I get to be robbed or beaten
because that guy had a bad childhood.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I mean, what kind of sense does that make to anybody?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I have a PhD In translating progressive speech, and you
know this is true because you've seen it over and
over again. What Bruce Harrold said was we're gonna let
the person offend over and over again till they murder someone,
and only then will we stop them.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
So whether they commit seven or eight crimes to me
is not the issue.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, you know, A better example would be what about
the person who had a bad childhood and has overcome
it and is not committing crimes and then they get
robbed or beaten? Okay, now what dude, Lots of people
have bad childhoods. They don't all end up criminals on
the street as drug addicts. I know that for a fact.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
We all do well.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
And I like the fact that he says maybe they
were abused, terrible, terrible. Maybe they were hungry. I'm hungry now, Bruce,
right now, and I'm committing zero crimes. Crimes against good
taste perhaps, but that's it.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
So when this person's committing such or say crimes, I
don't know his or her story. Maybe they were abused
as a child, Maybe they're hungry.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Got it's maybe they're hungry. Yeah, let's see, I'm freattle.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You can.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
You can eat yourself to obesity for nothing. In Seattle,
as a junkie and everybody knows it. You're a Marxist
and a nut.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, I mean you're I know some people like this
that have that same belief and very very very nice
people that I don't like this, and just yeah, I
don't know how you get that way. Can't talk them
out of it. It's just your Your theory does not
work in real life. That's the problem.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah, And that that's the problem with so many progressive theories.
And part of that is and I sympathize with this
sort of person.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'm glad I'm not one of them.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
They cannot reckon with the fact that there are just
bad people, mean people, there's evil in the world and
it could hurt them.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
What they want to.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Believe, because it's a psychological self protective mechanism, is that
all of the bad people who hurt people can be
redeemed if we're just nice enough to them. They believe
that to protect themselves from the fear that they feel
reckoning with the existence of evil.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Godam, What is your life experience with the rehabs that
you're talking about. What is your life experience that these
work and the therapy works very often on you had
a bad childhood or whatever your issue is.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So are you going to fix these people?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
It's it would be it would be impossible from a
cost standpoint, even if rehabs and therapy did work, to
take everybody who's got problems and fix them, even if.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It did work. But it doesn't work. So now what right?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Oh? And by the way, his opponent, his main opponent,
Katie Wilson. Wilson is a longtime progressive activist.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Who was asking those questions. Good job there, and see
I'm surprised they even asked those questions.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Fox thirteen, Seattle, Well done. Good for them. Man, oh man,
oh man.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
It's horribly robbed or beaten or raped or killed, obviously,
no matter what.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
But if it turns out.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
It's somebody that does it repeatedly, repeatedly and in your
moron Marxist mayor police chief or da or whoever let
them do it over and over again, that is just
salt in the wound. Man.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Well, yeah, and the phrase blood is on their hands
is probably a little overused, but that is absolutely the
case here. Your suffering and pain and loss for the
rest of your life is on their hands.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
That guy's fault.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yes, yeah, what a scumbag. He doesn't think he's a scumbag.
He thinks I'm a scumbag.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
For moment, probably considers him the conservative in the race.
So good luck, Freeattle. Keep trying policies that are miserable failures,
because as they stoke your ego.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I'll save you the eight hundred.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
The time when I had the incident with the homeless
people in my family and my kids were crying, and
I called the cops and everything like that, the first
cops said to me, well, the real tragedy is that
we don't have someplace to put this guy to get
him help. While my kids are crying. The guy said
that you freaking lunatics. Oh it makes me insane. All right,
we got more on the way. I hope you can
(12:24):
stay here.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
So whether they commit seven or eight crimes to me
is not the issue.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Get out of my shot, ready, every single one of
you game, Nathan Lucas moles straw A, your mother takes
everybody every day starts Bresnan.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
New Oh why are people not more upset?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
We're about to have foreigners headed toward our world series
here pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
If we're not careful, Foreigners.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Surprised Trump hasn't stepped in here trying to blue jay
annex them or something.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Eliminated the Yankees last night and the upstart team that
has the fourth highest payroll in all of Major League
Baseball beat the team with the third highest payroll, So
they're you know, they're rich team.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Also, So anyway, Canadian.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Toronto forces from Toronto invade New York is my headline.
Speaking of headlines. He's gay, she's straight. They're happily married.
Samantha Wynn Greenstone knows her husband is gay. Okay, she
knew he was gay when they met, blah blah blah,
when he proposed when they got married in November. He's
not bisexual, she's not in denial. That hasn't stopped them
(13:36):
from being in a committed monogamous relationship for nearly ten
years that they're calling what because I came across this
term the other day A lavender marriage?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, I saw that. I don't remember the context. I
came across lavender marriage and I thought, what is that?
And I forgot to google it? So these are lavender
marriages a gay guy and a straight woman.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Can it be?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
They also use terms like platonic marriage, queer platonic, a
romantic or mixed orientation, and the number of people doing
this is probably less than attended your local little league
game last week. But the Washington Post is pretending it's
some sort of significant trend. Why. I don't know these
these people that are featured are their entire living is
(14:16):
creating content online about their revolutionary relationship.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Their lavender marriage.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
But what's the supposed upside? I don't get what the
It sounds like you both would be unhappy, So what's
the point. I'm with somebody who doesn't like me. I'm
with somebody who doesn't like me. We call it a
lavender marriage.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Oh, they're like.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Super close friends. Well good, they love each other. That's nice,
which is a big part of marriage, most of it.
They have a kid together, by the way, And when
asked how the kid happen, actually, the guy says, well,
we birds and beesed it. So he overcame. His gain
(14:58):
is long enough to impregnate his wife, so he closed
his eyes and thought of England and went ahead through
with it. And or you know, Burt Reynolds, or I
don't know how old this guy is, probably Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Burt.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I see, I was trying to picture some handsome man.
That's why I got thrown off by your Burt Reynolds.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I was trying to think of I guess Studley manly man.
All right, my references are out of date. It happens,
all right, Yeah, I know, yeah, fair criticism. The guy
who plays thor, that's a good one to throw around.
What's his name? Him and his brother?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that fella. I know that fella.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Anyway, let's see blah blah blah. This is the first
committed relationship Hoff the woman has ever been in. Oh
that's I'm sorry. The dude first relationship he's ever been in.
Both parties felt a deep connection when they met, but
neither had marriage on their minds. That began to change
after Greenstone saw a spiritual healer they do live in
La after all, who told her that she and Hoff's
(16:00):
wear it a spiritual umbilical chord. We quit using terms
like that, I know, and quit trying to convince me
this is some sort of trend Washington Post, please.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Anyway, I know. Why does that get people all excited?
A certain kind of crowd to come up with new
different things as supposed to just do what everybody's done
forever and been perfectly happy with.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Well, and here are these two people who are both
a sexual evidently and are quote unquote married, but one
identifies as solo Polly. That means they occasionally date outside
their marriage. Here's something, all right, all right, it's you know,
it's part of the whole postmodern dei neo Marxist thing
(16:49):
where every single convention has to be challenged.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Right, yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
We've got a gender bending Madness update coming that includes
a therapist to talking about you think.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Trains is interesting? Why do you hear this one?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
And featuring California's favorite politician, the Angry Angry Katie.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Porter as well.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Oh really, wow, beyond the trend, that's all on the way.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Investigators say they found the suspect and arrested him in Florida,
where he currently lives now, but at one point he
lived in the Pacific Palisades, about a block away from
the trailhead where investigators believe this fire began. Then they
extracted data from his phone, including an image that he
apparently produced on chat gbt if that shows a city
burning with people fleeing. They also say that he was
(17:39):
listening to a French song on repeat. Apparently he was
raised in France, New French and this song shows the
main character in the music video lighting things on fire.
Investigators say it went through thirteen thousand pieces of evidence.
He is facing a minimum of five years up to
twenty years in federal prison.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I don't know how it's not more than that if
it turned out to be, although he seems kind of crazy.
Jonathan Render connect he's a twenty nine year old Florida
man uber driver who started the fire that burned down
seven thousand homes and buildings and caused one hundred and
fifty billion dollars in damage and killed twelve people and
(18:21):
wrecked many many lives, some of them. We know people
that we know. This guy's really a nutjob, this arsonist
that they arrested yesterday. By the way, he was a
Biden donor if that matters to you. It doesn't matter
to me. That sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Doesn't mean much to me.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
But are you the most interesting part of this to me,
if you're going to get to it, all, shut up,
But is the fact that he lit a fire. It
was put out and he offered to help put it out,
and it smoldered underground for days.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah that's a scary thought, Yeah it is. So he
brings till the high winds, the Santa Ana winds whipped
up again. So he'd lived in La.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
He'd hiked the trail on New Year's Day, moments after
dropping off uber passengers, who later said that the driver
appeared agitated and angry.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
They said he.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Then filmed himself on the mountain and listened to a
rap track with themes of despair and bitterness by some
French rapper I don't know whose. Accompanying music video shows
the main character lighting things on fire, so that apparently
is where the fire idea came from. He had been
listening to a song and watching the video. Lyrics from
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the song include daily life is killing me, I feel
like I'm nowhere, and too much bitterness in my head.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I think about the mistakes we made.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
This gets to the thing we were talking about a
couple of weeks ago, where a lot.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Of the high.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Profile violence of any kind, whether it's a school shooting
or killing politicians or setting fires, apparently it's a suicide.
It's a suicide dressed up with other stuff around.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
And apparently in the modern world where if our baby
takes its first steps, it's no fun unless we got
it on video and posted it on Twitter. The same
thing is true for suicides. Your suicide is no good
unless you can somehow get attention.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
For it or you're short of suicide cry for help,
which this seems to be. You think that's what it was,
just an expression of I'm in pain, please notice.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, yeah, So, as Joe's pointing out, he watched the
fire burn for a minute before running down the heel
and calling nine to one one immediately and fleeing the area,
but then later returned to the scene where the firefighters
responded to record them battling the flames. He got some
YouTube videos of them fighting the flames that he started
months before the blaze. The alleged fire razor made disturbing
(20:41):
chat GPT prompts man, one thing that's interesting when all
of these things happen is how we all live leave
a digital footprint about everything we do, right, and the
authorities have access to all of it. Anyway, They went
into his chat GPT. We'd been requesting a grim dystopian
painting divided into distinct parts that blend together seamlessly, with
(21:03):
a burning forest on the far left in a crowd
of people sprinting from the fire. He wanted that image
created by chat Gpt right. On a separate occasion, he
told chat gpt that he had literally burnt a Bible,
boasting that he felt amazing and so liberated after he
burnt the Bible.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Well, he created another picture that had similar with people
fleeing a fire, but on one side of the wall were
poor people fleeing the fire, and on the other side were.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
The rich laughing.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Oh okay, so drawn to some sort of Marxist gobbledegook crap.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So, whether it's Charlie Kirk's killer or this guy or whoever,
if they turn out to be half to three quarters
of a nut job, what do we get out of
this or what do we do with it?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Or does it mean anything?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
It seems like this sort of thing is happening more often,
more nut jobs are.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Causing more trouble.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know that's a book length answer
because I think no connected, it's just one more well,
I know, I just need dictatorial powers to implement my plan.
But it's just one more symptom of you know, the
great disease that Western civilization is suffering from, techno affluent malaise.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, I say so. Next hour, I really want.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
To get to a book, maybe the number one book
in Europe right now. If Russia wins a scenario written
by a professor of international politics at Munich's Bundesverer University,
which serves Germany's armed forces, and he's talking about what
the next steps will look like as Russia continues to expand,
(22:53):
and it is horrifyingly plausible.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I want to read that. I will read that, But.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I think if you're ready to we can break on time,
actually a little early for once in our lives, and
leave plenty of time. Next segment for a jam packed,
celebrity strewn, gender bending madness update featuring the angriest politician
in America, California's Katie Porter.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
Shot also feature Don't Sit on Me, also featuring a therapist,
and I'll give away a bit of the punchline, but
not all of it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
She had a person come to her that didn't identify
as a woman or a man, but as a dog,
and when she took it to her higher ups, the
way they reacted to how she should respond to that
is the interesting part. Oh what the hell? Anyway, we
got all that on the way, stay here, so our four,
(23:56):
I almost said, hour five.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
What am I talking about? We don't have a fifth hound?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Good lord, our four. We'll get back into the peace
deal in the Middle East, which is a giant historic thing,
and everybody's given Trump credit. People that hate Trump are saying, yeah,
this is pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
So we'll look forward to that, and perhaps Vladimir Putin
is not done with Ukraine and wants to expand even.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Further how that would look.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
But first, it's a gender bending Madness special Update featuring
California's bitterest politician, Katie Porter and special guest co host
Jack Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
So I kept cheering about this thing called the Local.
We're a brave world, and I'm un a rave. Yeah,
I'm dancing cool.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
So this video is a little hard to listen to
because it's edited the way you young people like things edited,
where you take out any space, any pause between people speaking.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Why do you added stuff like that? Are you trying
to make yourself insane? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
A therapist friend of mine actually makes their living in
the World with therapy sent this to me. This is
a therapist discussing a discussing it is disgusting, discussing a
recent thing that happened, and then the way it plays
out is quite amazing.
Speaker 10 (25:16):
I had been a therapist at Multi Care hospital in
Washington State for about five years. In March of twenty
twenty three, I had a client come in, a female
client and say that they identified as a wounded mail dog.
And I had heard people come in before and say like,
I feel like I'm actually transgender, and I just had
kind of treated them the way I treated any other client.
But at this point, when this client came in and
(25:37):
said that, I was like, at what point is someone's
identity actually a mental illness? And so I emailed my boss,
I emailed my colleagues and I said, hey, I had
a client come in and say that they identified as
a wounded male dog. They said, you just basically say awesome,
I'm glad you know who you are, and you continue
to be a therapist. So I kind of just kept
thinking this stuff through, like what is going on here
with this gender identity in the way that we are
treating these young children. And then September of twenty twenty,
(26:00):
we had a mandatory gender of firming care training and
so I just like researched everything I could about gender
firming care. It wasn't that easy to do, Like I
would google, like what are the dangers of gender firming
care and the result would be like how to be
a good friend your LGBTQ. I had written a letter
saying that I would not go to this training, and
I said to all the people that I found who
were giving a voice to the fact that we're hurting children,
(26:21):
I said, please read this for me. Tell me that
I'm not wrong, because I might lose my job over this.
And I got emails back and said, you're not wrong,
You're absolutely right, but you have to go to this
training because if you don't, they're just going to fire
you and then you lose your influence.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
So the fact that her co workers and bosses and
everybody said, well you just say, you know, good for
figuring out who you are a wounded male dog and
say you care about them or something.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I mean, how crazy is that? Anyway, she goes on.
Speaker 10 (26:52):
We talked through some questions that I could potentially ask,
and when the opportunity presented itself. I said things like, hey,
you know, if countries in Europe are pressing pause on this,
why are we mandating this of our clinicians now. They
were like, you are doing harm to our patients. Keep
politics out of this. I was like politics, Like I
didn't say anything about the president, Like I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
The person that was doing the.
Speaker 10 (27:11):
Training was like, this is not up for debate, And
no point did anyone say like, let's like look at
this research together and figure out whether or not there's
anything here. Why would that not be a conversation that
you would want to engage in.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
They basically just.
Speaker 10 (27:22):
Said there is no reason why a person's mental health
would impact their identity. It doesn't matter if they've had
a history of trauma, it doesn't matter if there's co
occurring disorders.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Oh my god, it's obscene. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
So the don't bring your politics into this gets into
the whole. You have to take every issue, or your
people try to get you to take every issue and
run it through the So is Trump for ror against this,
is MAGA for this against this? And then then you
make your decision from there, which is crazy. Like she said,
I didn't mention the president, what do you mean politics?
(27:55):
A guy thinks he's a woman thinks she's a wounded
male dog. That's nuts, right, Well, And the gal making
the point that why don't we all take a look
at the research together and see what's in there, it's
because there is no The research that exists is garbage.
It's been disavowed by any reasonable standard or reasonable actor
in this field. The whole you've got to firm the
(28:17):
gender that kill themselves is an utter fiction.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
There's nothing to support it.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Well, the fact that ninety percent of kids pre pubescents
who express a doubt about their gender just come back
in alignment.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And I don't even use the term gender.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
What am I doing that they think I'm a different
sex than I really am?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Or why to identify as that?
Speaker 4 (28:37):
They all come back to sanity if you talk to
them gently and counsel them to which on a side,
on a side. I finally finished listening to the entire
hour and a half of oral arguments before the Supreme
Court in the Salazar case, in which even the lefty
justices were like, wait a minute, you're saying you can
(28:58):
encourage gender transoian, but you can't discourage it. No, matter what,
based on this research, and you're calling it an established
standard of care.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Really, Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
So I think this is going to be an ass
kick and it could even be nine to nothing, I hope.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Anyway, back to you, So.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Back to this therapist. She's got a story here. This
is the sort of thing that always angers Joe.
Speaker 10 (29:20):
And then I had a client come in, a thirteen
year old who was mostly nonverbal. She would just like
scroll on her phone and like rock back and forth.
She had a history of really intense trauma. And I
saw that she had a gender clinic appointment coming up,
her first one, and I asked her how she felt
about that, and she said she didn't know she had one.
And then after that initial appointment, her dad asked me
to write a letter to start testosterone, and so I
(29:41):
emailed my boss and I emailed the person who did
the training, and I said, they want me to write
this letter for this young child to begin to stosterone,
and I just feel like there's so many reasons why
that's not a good idea. My boss came into my
office a few days later and was like, I want
you to know the person who did the training has
reported you to Risk Management I met with risk management
at numerous times. They ultimately determined.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
That I was the risk.
Speaker 10 (29:59):
They took the child from me, said I was incompetent
to work with gender distressed young people. And shortly thereafter
I left multi care and I went someplace else, And
three weeks after starting that new job, my article in
the Free Press came out.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Lost my job.
Speaker 10 (30:14):
Single mom of three little kids, I ended up opening
my own practice. I got letters from the state saying
I was being investigated for not being gender affirming.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
That's where we are today.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
What I would like to know is what happened to
that thirteen year old and almost entirely nonverbal girl whose
dad sets up this appointment and she is like, I
don't even know what you're talking about and wants to
start her on testosterone.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Holy freaking crap, right, these people are monsters.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
You are a monster, yeah, mutilating children and filling them
with these chemicals. And if you say, you know, I'd
really like to take a look at this research because
that seems odd to me, they will run you out
of the profession for asking the question and remind you
of the DEI training sessions you were forced to sit through.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Maybe and you know that dad was thrilled to have
a transgender kid and be able to tell everybody about it.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Oh yeah, Oh my god, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I find myself wondering why that child was uncommunicative and
had such terrible problems.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
But while that is horrifying and as if we need
to pile on anymore, there's a great piece in the
California Globe by Brenda Lebsack, who has spent her career
in education, talks about how in twenty eighteen, while she
was serving on the Orange Unified School Board in Orange, California,
she was reviewing the new Team Talk considered the It
was the new state compliant curriculum under the California Healthy
(31:41):
Youth Act AB three twenty nine for legislative freakazoids who
remember that sort of thing, And she said, having worked
in public education from my entire career, I was alarmed
at what I found. It contained teachings about gender being
based on one's feelings. The teen Talk video told kids
you can be gender fluidder we're gender non conforming or
(32:01):
no gender. School is a place to change, an experiment
that is not only being taught in California schools. It's
required that it be taught in California schools. School is
a place to change in experiment with your gender.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I thought it was a place to learn math and reading.
Well it's clearly not.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
But it used the genderbread person to teach kids that
gender is ever expanding and ever evolving.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
At normalized polyamory, gender is multiple part.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
What was that phrase gender ever expanding and ever evolving?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
What? When?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
When did gender become an ever evolving thing? Like five
minutes ago? All right, I'm going to get to the
really interesting part.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
She brought this forward to parents and they were shocked,
and after strong public testimony, the board voted just four
to three to halt the program. A week later, the
ACLU sent a letter reprimanding them, claiming, quote, we fostered
an atmosphere of LGBTQ bias and cited a statistic that
eighty nine percent of California parents support comprehensive sex education. Curious,
(33:06):
I contacted the UC Berkeley professor behind the study. He
confirmed the two thousand and seven survey only measured support
for contraception and HIVSTD prevention versus abstinence only education.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
That is classic Martin Bailey argument there.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
The survey did not even ask about gender identity, pan sexuality,
or any of the Oh.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
You don't want to teach teenage girls about contraception, you monster.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Right, and they completely well I'll read what she says.
This meant the ACLU Equality California and Planned Parenthood, who
lobbied for AB thirty nine, used data that grossly myths
represented California parents. Decision makers were told nearly all parents
supported comprehensive sex out of this sort, when in reality
they never addressed the expanse of LGBTQ subjects now mandated
(33:54):
in classrooms.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Well, and there's more, but you get the idea. I
wonder why so many people pulling their kids out of
public schools. I wonder what that's all about.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Well, and by the way, there's a different law that
says parents may not apt out or excuse their child.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Oh really they required Yeah, wow, I opted my kid
out of all of those classes because they got well,
I'm way too crazy.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
They're working hard to uh end that. I don't know
what to say at this point. This sickness. The neo
Marxist gender bending, radical gender theory, radical.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Queer theories right up there with critical race theory.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
It's out of the same philosophers and the same you know,
neo Marxist theories. It is so evil and so wrong
and so sick. Get your kids out of public schools
if you possibly can. And yeah, I know what that means.
I know it's hard. I know you can't afford it
in some cases. But if you can do it. Oh,
(34:56):
I'm sorry. That was a gender bending madness update Michael. Michael,
you were asleep to switch again?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Uh, identify as a wounded dog and people a male dog,
wounded mail dogs right as a gender wounded in what sense?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
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Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yep, great hour coming up. If you can't stick around again,
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