November 4, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- Mamdani as mayor of NYC & socialism vs. capitalism
- Theme park scare
- Dodger celebration & CEO salaries
- Britain's economy damaged in the name of climate change
Stupid Should Hurt: https://www.armstrongandgetty.com/
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Strong and Gatty, and he Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
But yesterday in New York City was the New York
City Marathon. Once again, I finished between Bernie Sanders and
miss McConnell. Of course, after the race, some people felt dizzy, lightheaded,
and nauseous. That's the same way Andrew Cuomo might feel
after his race.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
What So, speaking of election Davis and Mom Donnie in
particular the socialist gonna be mayor of New York City,
this clip has been getting a lot of attention.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
George will I'm sorry before we get to that the
little joke there. It reminds me. I saw video of
both of them campaigning yesterday, Ma'm donna. He was looking
like Mum Donnie, and Cromo was like just hitting the
streets like crazy with.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
A grimace disguised as a smile on his face at
every moment. He could not hide his dislike of what
he was doing, in his contempt for the people he
was doing it with. Ronny he is just an awful,
awful candidate, and he looks and sounds ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
So that doesn't help him, right anyway, back to your
stunning introduction of a stunning class. So, I'm a big
fan of George Will. He's a columnist for the Washington Post.
He used to be on ABC this week. I've been
watching him, reading him since I was in my twenties.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I've read his books. We've had him on the air
many times. He likes our friend Tim sanderfer He mentioned
Tim and his column again the other day in the
Washington Post tell Tim reposted that he called our friend
Tim Sander for a national treasure, which I agree. Anyway,
George Will was on a real time with Bill Maher
talking about this whole political time we're in the other day,
and it went like this.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
And on the other side, you have the guy running
in New York Man, do me right, Okay, who's like
a straight up communist.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I mean he is.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
He talks about you know, the things that communists ay,
I mean he wants free grocery stores, free buses.
Speaker 7 (02:11):
I want him to win.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You want him to win?
Speaker 7 (02:14):
Yeah, I think every twenty years or so.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Wait, we need it.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
Every twenty years or so. We need a conspicuous, confined
experiment with socialism, so we can crack it up again.
Socialist slogan used to be workers of the world, you night,
you have nothing to lose, but you're changed. The new
socialist slogan.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Is trust us.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
This time it won't be a mess. So when the
post war labor government written was about to get started,
one of our leading LIFs was a socialist name in
Nurian Bevon. He said, what could it go wrong? He said,
we have a nation bedded on coal surrounded by fish.
(02:59):
He would take an organizational genius to have a shortage
of either. In three years they had a shortage of both.
That's socialism out.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
That's good stuff that is and somebody you never know
it's real or what's not on the internet. I don't
know if this actually is a tweet, but mom and
Donnie had tweeted out in twenty twenty the classic communist
socialist phrase from each according to their abilities, to each
(03:30):
according to their needs or whatever the hell that is,
which I don't understand how that doesn't doom socialism right
there where, you don't, with any logic whatsoever, think, well,
I'm gonna claim my needs so I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Have to go to work every.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Day I mean, like a whole bunch of us are
gonna say, you know what, there are people out there
that need my help. I'm just gonna go out there
and I'm gonna work my ass off today and let
them have the food and shelter and everything that I've provided,
and I'm gonna work until I'm old. I'na at any
point think why am I not sitting around like that guy?
(04:03):
And I will trust that one hundred percent of those
people are completely sincere in their completing helplessness. How do
you possibly you know? What helps is the fact that
you've never had a job.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
The fact that you've never So many socialists, including Karl
Marx and Mundani.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Have never had a job, so it's it's easier for.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Them to believe that a person might go to work
every day just to support mankind because.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
They've never had a job, so they don't know what
it feels like.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I'm reminded of the near one hundred percent conversion rate
of talking to kids about Okay, let's talk about your school.
You know, some people get a's, some get v's, some
get c's, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
These days mostly a's.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
But you say, all right, what happens if we just
give everybody a C a B. Rather, that's socialism. Everybody
gets a B. Do you think the kids who get
a's are going to continue to work as hard as.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
They did to get a's? Why would they bother?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
And do you think the kids who are doing poorly
will step up their efforts to move from c's to b's?
Why would they bother? That is socialism. We're done here,
and again it's got a near one hundred percent, uh
you know, convincing right?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Oh yeah, And when you presented as those of you
who got a's, you now have a B. We're taking
one of your letter grades away and we're going to
give it to the c's. They revolt the way people do.
They get pissed off. Hello winner anyway?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Own two? All right?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So, which brings us to Bill mcgert's column in the
Wall Street Journal. And it's mostly quoting somebody else, but
he mentions that New York, of all places, from the
skyline to the Stock Exchange, embodies it's an incredible representative
of the creative power of capitalism, the free market. I
prefer but and and but you got never really worked
(05:48):
to jobs or on Momdannie running as a proud socialist
and winning, and he mentions that economically, his list of
proposals is practically a Saturday Night Live skit. Freeze the
city owned grocery stores, fast fair, free buses, no cost childcare.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
In mcgert jokes how about.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Free cheeseburgers for the elderly man, but he mentions that
it's working. And one response to the prospect of Meyrimum
Donnie is to point out the economic flaws with socialism
and why it is doomed to fail. I've done that
over and over again. The critiques are all thoughtful and correct,
thank you, Bill, but they don't seem to be denting
(06:27):
his popularity. Why Sidney Hook knew the answer? Sydney Hook
was a philosopher at New York University. He lived from
nineteen oh two to nineteen eighty nine. He started out
as a Marxist, but later became a leading critic of communism,
and he wrote in his nineteen eighty seven biography the following,
(06:49):
I was guilty of judging capitalism by its operations and
socialism by its hopes and aspirations, Capitalism by its works,
and socialism by its literature. To this day, this error
and its disastrous consequences are observable in the judgment and
behavior of some impassioned individuals, mostly young.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
That reminds me of the tendency we all have to
judge ourselves by our intentions, but other people by the
things they actually.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Do and usually the worst of their actions. Yeah, yeah,
I think that is so good. That is one of
the clearest. I've actually copied it, pasted it, and I'm
going to put it up in the studio. I was
guilty of judging capitalism by its operations and socialism by
its hopes and aspirations, capitalism by its works, and socialism
by its literature. To this day, this error and its
(07:41):
disastrous consequences, and they are of a are observable and
the judgment and behavior of some impassioned individuals, mostly young, and.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
McGirt writes almost forty years later.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Those words help explain why the Mamdanni campaign holds such appeal,
especially among young people who have no experience with how
socialism actually works. With happy talk about free things, but
that means taking wealth from those who have earned it,
or an a from those who have earned it and
giving it to those who haven't, or forcing people to
spend their money in ways they don't want. How about
lifelong liberal Democrat Bill Maher calling Mom Dani a communist, Yeah,
(08:18):
on his show, because Bill seen socialism tried and fail
miserably over and over again.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
He's old enough to know that's wild. This would be
quite the fun ride. Then, now listen to this.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Would you two thirds of Republicans view capitalism positively two thirds,
it's forty four percent of independence less than half, which
just sucks, and twenty five percent of Democrats. Just twelve
percent of Republicans view capitalism negatively compared to twenty eight
(08:49):
percent of independence, So independences are just kind of wishy
washy overall, but forty five percent of Democrats view the
free market negatively. I'm back to wanting to divide the
country into two countries. You can decide how to do
that exactly, running a ten year experiment and then getting
(09:09):
together to compare notes. I can't wait. And then people
point out it's kind of happening with people self separating,
you know, fleeing cal Unicornia for instance, to the Tennessees
of the world.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I don't know if you've ever listened to it's one
of the best podcasts that ever existed. He got into
podcasting early, so he has one of the biggest podcasts
in the world, Russ Roberts econ Talk, which he started
like before anybody ever heard of a podcast. Anyway, he's
brilliant and I was listening to him on somebody Else's
podcast talking about how, you know, all the problems that
(09:44):
free market capitalism has and creative destruction and ups and
downs of the economy and people getting laid off. You know,
there's a lot of a lot of unfair using finger quotes,
bad things that happen in that system, and you end
up with inequality.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And all kinds of different things.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
But there is no fix to that that wouldn't make
it worse, right, Right, people don't like uncertainty, and I
get that, and the free market has uncertainty.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
That's how it works so beautifully.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Is it's an exchange of millions trillions of bits of
information all the time, and change happens. But the very
fact that we and folks tell me if I'm wrong.
We had a bit of a negative reaction to the
word inequality because we've all been taught that inequality is bad, right,
(10:37):
and in some ways, like in terms of enforcement of
civil rights. It is bad, but economic inequality. You explain
to me the system that brings about economic equality, To
paraphrase Thomas soul I raised three children, same parents, same household,
same principles, same discipline, same everything, and we are going
(10:58):
to have three wildly economic outcomes. You explain to me,
If you can't get equality quote unquote in a single family,
how are you gonna do it again across society? What
sort of extreme dictatorial powers must you hold to even
hope to do that.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Inequality exists, it will always exist, It must always exist economically.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Well, if you're you're young, especially, you could buy the
idea that there's got to be a better way. Then,
so you dedicate your life to be becoming really good
at something, and you go to work for a company
and you do really well.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Then all of a sudden, a new technology comes.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Along and that thing that you know how to do
is irrelevant, and all of a sudden, you're twenty eight,
thirty eight, fifty eight years old and your skill is
not needed by anyone anywhere. It's worthless. All of a sudden,
seems like that can't be the best system, but it.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Is come up, especially given the especially given the pace
of that sort of change in the modern world.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I'm not without sympathy now, getting back.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
To what you say, any system that seeks to quote
unquote correct at it's gonna be far worse always.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Every time it's tried. And that's that's a tough thing
to accept. Sure, get that. I get it too, Mom.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Donniewey eyed youngsters can't accept it, Mam. Donnie's got a
different idea and he's gonna win tonight. We got more
run man.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's not actually right.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It's ann will win. Maybe we'll all learn how to
say his name.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Stay here.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
We didn't do the story the other day, some horrible
story about a roller coaster or something went wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh it was It was a ferris wheel at a fair.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Two girls fell out of Oh hor horrible.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, was it a problem something the girls did, like
climbed out of their seats that they shouldn't have done.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
No, is there a problem with the ferris wheel. It
was a problem with the ferris wheel.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It was one of those ones where they're in the
buckets and they swing as the ferris wheel goes around, and.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
The bucket swung back and it caught on one of
the wires of the ride. Oh my god. And yeah,
so we have a.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Good version of one of those stories that happened at
Kansas City's Worlds of Fun, which is first amazment park
I ever went to in my life. I've been there many, many,
many times. Gladys, if you could play the harp. First
time I ever went there, I was fourteen years old.
When I was fourteen, I looked like I was eight.
I was a very late bloomer and I was a
(13:27):
I don't know why I qualified to ride the ride,
but I rode the roller coaster, the one upside down
at Worlds of Fun and everything like that, and it
beat the crap out of me. I mean, my head
was just banging around on the thing. It's supposed to
go over your shoulders, but I was too little, and
it was just bashing the crap out of my head.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I was in so much pain and so frightened. It
was horrible when that thing ended. I was traumatized.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Anyway.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
At Worlds of Fun over the weekend, a Missouri couple
probably says the life of a young girl. Behind them,
they're riding a roller coaster at Worlds of Fun. They
hear a blood curdling scream that seemed different than your
normal scream of kind of joy slash fear, and she screamed,
my seat belt broke. They look, they feel behind them
(14:12):
and the young girl who's in the seat behind them,
the lap bar just broke. It wasn't down and connected.
Their season ticket holders know the roller coaster well knew
where the dips, twists and turns were that like cause
you to raise out of your seat. Dad and mom
reached behind them when we're able to like grab the
(14:33):
girl and like press down really hard on her on
the points where you would fly out of your seat
and kept her from flying out of her seat.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
The holes can't get much leverage reaching behon.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
No, they were terrified themselves that they wouldn't be able
to hold onto her. And they managed to keep her
in her seat the whole time, seventy five miles an hour,
oh some of those turns, and she survived, and they're
being hailed as heroes. And and the dad said, what
if somebody else had been in that seat that either
didn't hear the screen, or didn't have or didn't have
(15:05):
long enough arms, or were kids or whatever, should have
died it just is horrifying to think, oh.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
My gosh, and what if that ride went upside down.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
They also mentioned that the picture that they give you
at the end showed a terrified girl being held down.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And you didn't charge your twenty bucks? Did you?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
For the you nearly died and for twenty five dollars,
we'll give you this picture of you looking like you're.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
About to die. I'm that girl's parents.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I'm sending those folks at Christmas Ham every year for
the rest of their lives or something.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Holy crap, hi karma.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Can you Can you imagine the fear in their hearts,
the desperation to hold onto that poor kid.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Every time I rolled.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
A rote a roller coaster in my life, as you're
doing the click click, click up the thing, I always think,
why did I do this?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
What am I? What is the point of this? Yeah, because.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
What you're literally doing is you're trying to trick your
brain into well, your brain is believing the input it's
getting that you're doing something very dangerous and scary and
you might die until I give it to your death,
and he's giving you the adrenaline rush that would come
with almost dying. But you don't die, and then I
guess you're thrilled that you tricked yourself or something. And
(16:20):
I've never quite understood thrill rides the way a lot
of people do. I've done plenty of them. I've done
lots of them with my kids, and my kids aren't
into them, thank god, because I don't have to write
them anymore. Every time I was going click click, click,
I think why did I agree to do this? And
it was always because I didn't want to be the
guy who said, you grow it.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I'm too big of a puss.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Thank you for that. I don't ride those because I
would pass out anyway. Ah, but I appreciate your dark
description of it. But like going super fast on a
motorcycle is a little different.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Isn't it?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Is that like I don't know why of defying death too? Yeah,
that's that's a very very good point. Why do I
go fast? Where do I enjoy that? Because then that
one I can can actually die. I'm not protected, so.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It doesn't make any sense. I would always think why
in the world did I do this?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Again? Every time? I hate it? Armstrong and geddy, Thank
you mate, you made hi poses amazing stuff and all
the pants.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
We did it together.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I love.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I love panthers.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
How gotto, what's our is? English is better in my Japanese.
Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
That's Yamamoto the difference making picture for the Dodgers at
the big parade yesterdays, just looking up at the TV
they were showing some of the parade stuff. I like
the fact that what's the long blonde haired picture?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Who retired? Kershaw?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Kirshaw was wearing a sleeveless tank top, looking pretty redneck
with his hat on backwards and his long hair.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Good luck. None liked it a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Wow, he's done. You're retired. What are you gonna do?
What do you want from me?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I'm done, Hanson said. And his moves he has moves,
Kershaw has moves. Yeah apparently, okay, all right?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Wow, Wow, suburban dad mocks body of trillionaire professional athlete.
That's beneath you, Hanson, beneath you. I like it all
the way around.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Look at him, he's not in shape.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I like Hanson's comment. I like your angry reaction to it.
The whole thing is good. Wow, he Hanson is a
Padres fan. Oh that's it's Oh it's personal animosity, right, Okay,
all right, it's it's a sports fan thing. Okay, fair enough,
So all is fair in that world.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
So this is going to.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Be a conversation for the next coming weeks, months, and years.
I guess free market versus socialism. With Zohran Mandami mom
Danny winning today.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
As the mayor. Again, it's a cycle. We got to
go through this every couple decades.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Apparently we got this text though I thought we'd get
it on to represent this point of view. We don't
have a free market. Most people feel it's rigged. That's
one reason Trump won. It is Sanders is popular. True,
we have a system where the rich and influential can
get laws passed in favor of their business or status.
It's not a free market when the thumb is on
the scale against unions. It's not a free market. When
(19:39):
CEOs make one hundred to a thousand times that of
their workers, it's not.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
A free market.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
When corporate boards are made up of business owners rewarding
each other for cutting jobs.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Wow, that's as absolutely good stuff. It would take a
college class. Do n tangle that.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I almost want to go sentence by sentence. Yeah, some
of that I agree with some of that, I don't.
The part that I.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Definitely agree with it is is it a lot why
Trump and Bernie Sanders have the popularity that they have
is people believing the system is rigged.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Well, I would say this to you, my friend, I
actually agree with you in principle that free market fans
like I'll just speak for myself, like myself think the
crony capitalism part of our law and society and government
has grown.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Way too big, way too big.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
But the Bernies of the world want to go way
further down that road, with the government picking more winners
than losers.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah, I had the problem. I want to go backward. Yeah,
that is the interesting part. Always in any free market capitalism,
there's going to be some rigging the system, great or small.
Just it's man, it's hard to avoid. But if you
go down the road to socialism, then then everything is rigged.
Every single aspect of everything is rigged all the time.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
So, and a friend, I would ask you this, when
the government is in charge of everything, who's ear or
who's going to have that ultra powerful government's ear the
common man? Ah, hilarious. That's another one of the seductive
lies of socialism. Please, The more power the government has,
the more it responds only to the powerful.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Second note, and.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Again, you know, I'd love to pick a part that email,
including the parts I agree with.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
The idea that the deck is stacked against.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
The unions is one of the funniest things I've ever
heard in my life. I congratulate you on your exquisite
comedy styling.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I have long been interested in this question of why
CEOs used to make like fifteen times the average worker
and then it became a thousand times the average worker
in their company. I've never quite understood what changed there.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Is it economics or cultural?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Was the change has to do with the boards of
directors as well?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, yeah, but that whole relationship. What changed there?
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Did they just inch up little by little and people said, wow,
look what he's getting away with.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Let's see how far I can go?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Or what would it take to lure the high performers.
I mean, but baseball player salaries of skyrocketed as well.
Why because there's tons more revenue?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, well, you.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Know this is a very fudgy answer, But I do
enjoy fudge.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I don't I find fudge too much? Oh really, I
love a brownie, brownies. I eat a pan of brownies
all day long. Fudge just too rich for air. Perhaps
eat less of it. I don't know how much fudge
do you eat? And half undal sitting? Oh that's reasonable.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Judy and I almost went into a fudge shop the
other day. We were in a touristy area a fudge
But the last time we went into a fudge shop
it was near closing, and I told this story on
the air. I think that the the plucky youngster behind
the counter. He said, so, what brings you folks to town?
We said, well, we're celebrating our anniversary.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I think it was our thirty eighth and thirty eighth.
The traditional gift is fudge right clearly. And he said,
oh my gosh, that's great. Congratulations. I love seeing that. Here.
I tell you what, here's you paid for one pound?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Whatever it is too And they said, you know what,
we're almost closing time.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Which which one do you want to try? That way?
I said, well that looks good. And we walked out
of there with like.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Four or five pounds of fudge, a lot of fudge,
just the two of us.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
We couldn't eat that in a decade.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
So much better as a couple you had walked out
of a hospital with a baby that weighed roughly the same.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, amudge, sweet kid.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Though, it was kind of nice that we responded to
a long term, stable marriage with that sort of you know,
and to encourage more long term marriages.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
The dangling, the reward of.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Fudge, the fabulous gift of fudge. Yes, oh that's right.
I was going to give you my fudgy answer. I
would love to dig further into that question about the
CEO salaries, how it's gone from ten times the salary
of the lowest level worker or whatever, fifteen to you know,
twenty thousand or whatever the hell it is. But from
(24:08):
what I've read so far, and this is the fudge delicious,
fudgy answer, some of it is legitimate market forces at work,
and some of it is the whole back scratching boards
of directors who all know each other, and it's a
you know, limited cabal of the super rich. You take
care of each other. It's it's you know, both legitimate
(24:29):
and the illegitimate. So I apologize if you don't like
fudge or fudgy answers but a lot of that stuff.
Again that the short story long is you're complaining about
moving away from the free market, So saying we don't
have a free market. No, yeah, I know, I know,
and I all like it. But going further down your
(24:50):
road would be an insane solution. So I'd be like
heeding more fudge to kier obesity. To return to our theme. Wow,
and actually fudge is not that terrible for you. It's
got sugar, but it's it's better for you than like
milk chocolate.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
And that's is it? Really? Yeah, maybe I should get
on the fudge train.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Oh, come on, anyway, where were we?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I knew there was something else we wanted to talk about. Oh,
you know, we could take a break semi on time
and and uh and talk about this next segment.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I want to point out how carmel apples is that
our topic? Another delicious trait.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
If I wasn't allergic to apples, I would have a
caramel apple every single week anyway. Oh yeah, weekly caramel
apple keeps the doctor way and keeps the dentist to
you know busy.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
The fact that like the US, like Bill Gates, many
countries around the world are turning away from the cult
like climate change, sacrifice your economy to green energy just
fantasy thing. So more on that to come. After a
word from her friends at web roots.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
You get worried about being hacked practically every day when
I'm getting emails or text and like, is this legit
from a company where I got a bill with them
that I don't remember? I can't click on it. Then
I try to you know that whole thing? Is this
a phishing scam? Webroot makes me feel a lot more comfortable.
Webroot Total Protection blocks threats before they reach you, protects
your passwords, even monitors the dark web for your info
(26:23):
to try to fight against phishing, ransomware, all the problems
that are out there.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Plus, a webroot is cheaper than the competition. It installs
in minutes, uses way less space on your computer, no
price gouging, no nonsense, and come on secure VPN from
up to ten devices.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That's great. Protect yourself today.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Get sixty percent off webroot Total Protection at webroot dot com.
Slash armstrong that's sixty percent off, but only at that link.
Protect yourself and your loved ones. Go to webroot dot
com slash armstrong. Now don't miss out one more time.
It's webroot dot com slash armstrong. Stays say stybers cyberstate
what stay a cyber safe sixty percent off webroot dot.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Com slash armstrong. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I would like it for reading and talking at the
same time. I apologize deeply and humbly.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
I would like to know what piece of information got
to Bill Gates that made him change his mind and
the whole climate change threat? Was there a specific study
did a guy he respects say, hey.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Bill, the whole climate change thing? You know, let me
tell you something about that. I wonder what she knocked
around the dominant theory the other day. It's just money?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Maybe right that that AI, which is the future of tech,
consumes so much energy.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
If there was no chance before that.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
The windmills and solar panels were going to power the world.
Now it's hilarious to even propose that, because AI such an.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Energy suck could be and to AI is really undoable.
If you're gonna have windmills, well.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
The world is turning away from that. We'll tell you
about that. Plus a book so bad it shattered liberals,
faith and DEI A review of kg PAS Independent a
look inside a broken white house outside the party lines.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
It's had some pretty bad reviews already, so lots on
the way. Stay here.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I want to take Congress to the La Dodgers who
won the World Series this weekend, and it's thrilling Game seven.
If you're in La, get ready to meet a whole
bunch of babies names show hey in exactly nine months?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
What okay?
Speaker 4 (28:28):
So I didn't realize that a shirtless Clayton Kershaw joined
the postgame show after the Dodgers won the World Series.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
And he is thick with two c's. So I'm the
longest turvy. I've long had this standard.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
As you know, if you display your body to the public,
the public gets to comment on it.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I mean, if that's just the way it works, that's unfair.
Solid a cup right there.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, if you don't want people to come and I
don't walk shirtless, he's completely shirtless as a forty year
old too, walking up to the postgame show.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
That's pretty funny. Wow. Wow. So there are a couple
of topics.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Climate cultism is one and gender cultism is another. Where
the tide is finally starting to turn. Although I would argue,
you've got a hell of a long road to go
before sanity's really install restored. And we've got a gender
bending madness update coming up next hour. But on the
climate thing, Bill Gates made a lot of headlines this
week when he said, essentially, yeah, maybe like doing everything
(29:32):
we can possibly do to reduce emissions at the cost
of our economies and standards of living, etc. Is maybe
not the right strategy. Why don't we just deal with
maybe some of that's comfort slight climate changes might cause
and look after people being able to feed themselves and
not die of diseases and stuff like that, instead of
(29:53):
putting all of our eggs in the climate basket. Why
he made that change, Maybe he just woke up to
reality in my opin, or whether he's motivated by AI's
voracious need for electricity, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Well, just his flat statement of mankind is not going
to come to its end because of climate change. Well,
what's the flat out opposite of what he've been saying
for twenty years?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Well, and also the idea that we in particular the
Western world, because the other parts of the world don't
give a crap, that we can make these enormous sacrifices
and it will turn.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
The tide has never been true.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
It was demonstrably false for years, and he's finally woken
up to it. Anyway, I thought this was interesting headline,
The World turns to Energy Pragmatism happens to be in
the Dispatch Energy section sponsored by the Pacific Legal Foundation.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Good friends of the Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
And Getty Show and let's see Roger Pilke is writing
about the fact that you've got leaders all around the
world saying similar things, like Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney.
A decade ago, he warned that remaining fossil fuel reserves
may become unburnable if the world wants to avoid a
climate catastrophe. In recent months, he's fast tracked approval of
(31:12):
new liquefied natural gas export terminals in British Columbia, promising
quote to transform our.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Country into an energy superpower. Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
In the UK, Prime Minister Keir Starmer, who needs to
get out of office as soon as possible, must soon
decide whether to relax aggressive climate targets that have crippled
Britain's economy. A government insider recently told The Guardian, quote,
if it comes to a choice between hitting the climate
target and overpaying, or missing it and keeping costs down.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
We're gonna miss it.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, Britain went net zero and just destroyed their economy.
As listening to a podcast about that a couple of
weeks ago, and it was shocking that I wasn't more
aware of this, the damage they did to their own
economy over this.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Thank god we didn't. Oh yeah, yeah, you got your.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
German Chancellor Freddie Merts recently acknowledged the competing economic objectives
that a company an ambitious climate agenda.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
None of us are questioning the goal of climate protection.
All of us are of the opinion we must combine
this with the competitiveness of European industry. All the people
who have had their economic prospects crushed over the last
fifteen years are probably saying, oh, great, way to wake
up now, Fred, But it is actually more than that.
Like your Greek prime minister, Unpronounceable, writing for The Financial Times,
(32:29):
argued in favor of a more pragmatic energy transmission transition.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
If we must accept some emissions for a bit longer
to save our industries or to maintain social cohesion, so
be it we have to have these debates. Honestly, we
cannot begin with climate neutrality and hope everything else falls
into place.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, a lot of us have been saying that for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, practically word for word, one or two, more and
then more on that theme. Chris Coons of Delaware, a
highly partisan Democrat, told Politico that climate is not a
top three issue right now.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Senator Brian Schatz of Hawaii. It's a pretty name when
even further or arguing at an unfortunate event, Yes, at
a New York Times event last month, that costs need
to be front and center when talking about energy. Quote,
you could talk about the planetary emergency and mitigation and adaptation.
You could throw in some environmental justice rhetoric, but by
(33:27):
the time you're done talking, people don't think you care
about them. The way the victory is to talk about price. Okay, welcome,
glad to have you at the party. I think, sure,
we're just cleaning up and washing the dishes.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yes, you've you've been having a shats on the American
people for too long with your climate cultism.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Oh my god. So the one.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Bitter note about people finally coming correct. Careers were crushed,
people were run out of science and academia for saying
these very things. Are like canceled on Twitter and Facebook
for saying the very things the left is now saying.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Got to hope.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Have we learned something from COVID or climate and the
trans craziness that you got to let people have their
opinions out there.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Probably for a while we have, and then those lessons
get fuzzier over time and you repeat them. History doesn't
repeat itself, but it rhymes, as they say.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Still laughing over her? Did you want a joke? How
da you? I agree? Shut up this time? I agree
with you. Shut up you.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
She's a poor autistic kid who got exploited by adults
who made millions of dollars off the climate scam.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I shouldn't be mean to her. I mean, she's an
adult now, but please, well then I should be back
in school. You know you're right. I agree. They ran
into the problem.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
The climate change activists of like a lot of doomsday cults,
like you know the world is going to end on
twenty nineteen. Twenty nineteen comes in the world doesn't and
you kind of and ruins your credibility. And that's what
happened with a lot of your climate change stuff. I mean,
you go back and look at some of the things
Al Gore claimed was gonna happen by by twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah uh yeah, Well, and then the claims of the
effect that their policies would have are completely fanciful. You
haven't changed the output of you know, crap globally speaking,
nearly enough to crap. That's a nice technical term, you know,
the fossil fuels and carbon and the rest of it.
(35:33):
You haven't changed it nearly enough to matter. So quit
wasting our time in economies on your cult. And again,
how often do you see this pattern? There are people
making billions and billions of dollars off of selling climate fear.
And then you've got the good hearted, soft headed Gretitunebergs
(35:54):
of the world and the college kids on the campuses
who believe it with one hundred percent sincere and they're
the army that marches for the activists.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I think, in honor of Dick Cheney's passing, we should
waterboard Bill Gates to find out what made him change
his mind.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I love that IDEA loving tribute to the great Dick
Cheney next hour as well.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Stay with us Okay Lots on the way if you
miss again the podcast
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Strong and Gatty, and he Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
But yesterday in New York City was the New York
City Marathon. Once again, I finished between Bernie Sanders and
miss McConnell. Of course, after the race, some people felt dizzy, lightheaded,
and nauseous. That's the same way Andrew Cuomo might feel
after his race.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
What So, speaking of election Davis and Mom Donnie in
particular the socialist gonna be mayor of New York City,
this clip has been getting a lot of attention.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
George will I'm sorry before we get to that the
little joke there. It reminds me. I saw video of
both of them campaigning yesterday, Ma'm donna. He was looking
like Mum Donnie, and Cromo was like just hitting the
streets like crazy with.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
A grimace disguised as a smile on his face at
every moment. He could not hide his dislike of what
he was doing, in his contempt for the people he
was doing it with. Ronny he is just an awful,
awful candidate, and he looks and sounds ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
So that doesn't help him, right anyway, back to your
stunning introduction of a stunning class. So, I'm a big
fan of George Will. He's a columnist for the Washington Post.
He used to be on ABC this week. I've been
watching him, reading him since I was in my twenties.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I've read his books. We've had him on the air
many times. He likes our friend Tim sanderfer He mentioned
Tim and his column again the other day in the
Washington Post tell Tim reposted that he called our friend
Tim Sander for a national treasure, which I agree. Anyway,
George Will was on a real time with Bill Maher
talking about this whole political time we're in the other day,
and it went like this.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
And on the other side, you have the guy running
in New York Man, do me right, Okay, who's like
a straight up communist.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I mean he is.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
He talks about you know, the things that communists ay,
I mean he wants free grocery stores, free buses.
Speaker 7 (02:11):
I want him to win.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You want him to win?
Speaker 7 (02:14):
Yeah, I think every twenty years or so.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Wait, we need it.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
Every twenty years or so. We need a conspicuous, confined
experiment with socialism, so we can crack it up again.
Socialist slogan used to be workers of the world, you night,
you have nothing to lose, but you're changed. The new
socialist slogan.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Is trust us.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
This time it won't be a mess. So when the
post war labor government written was about to get started,
one of our leading LIFs was a socialist name in
Nurian Bevon. He said, what could it go wrong? He said,
we have a nation bedded on coal surrounded by fish.
(02:59):
He would take an organizational genius to have a shortage
of either. In three years they had a shortage of both.
That's socialism out.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
That's good stuff that is and somebody you never know
it's real or what's not on the internet. I don't
know if this actually is a tweet, but mom and
Donnie had tweeted out in twenty twenty the classic communist
socialist phrase from each according to their abilities, to each
(03:30):
according to their needs or whatever the hell that is,
which I don't understand how that doesn't doom socialism right
there where, you don't, with any logic whatsoever, think, well,
I'm gonna claim my needs so I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Have to go to work every.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Day I mean, like a whole bunch of us are
gonna say, you know what, there are people out there
that need my help. I'm just gonna go out there
and I'm gonna work my ass off today and let
them have the food and shelter and everything that I've provided,
and I'm gonna work until I'm old. I'na at any
point think why am I not sitting around like that guy?
(04:03):
And I will trust that one hundred percent of those
people are completely sincere in their completing helplessness. How do
you possibly you know? What helps is the fact that
you've never had a job.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
The fact that you've never So many socialists, including Karl
Marx and Mundani.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Have never had a job, so it's it's easier for.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Them to believe that a person might go to work
every day just to support mankind because.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
They've never had a job, so they don't know what
it feels like.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I'm reminded of the near one hundred percent conversion rate
of talking to kids about Okay, let's talk about your school.
You know, some people get a's, some get v's, some
get c's, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
These days mostly a's.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
But you say, all right, what happens if we just
give everybody a C a B. Rather, that's socialism. Everybody
gets a B. Do you think the kids who get
a's are going to continue to work as hard as.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
They did to get a's? Why would they bother?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
And do you think the kids who are doing poorly
will step up their efforts to move from c's to b's?
Why would they bother? That is socialism. We're done here,
and again it's got a near one hundred percent, uh
you know, convincing right?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Oh yeah, And when you presented as those of you
who got a's, you now have a B. We're taking
one of your letter grades away and we're going to
give it to the c's. They revolt the way people do.
They get pissed off. Hello winner anyway?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Own two? All right?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So, which brings us to Bill mcgert's column in the
Wall Street Journal. And it's mostly quoting somebody else, but
he mentions that New York, of all places, from the
skyline to the Stock Exchange, embodies it's an incredible representative
of the creative power of capitalism, the free market. I
prefer but and and but you got never really worked
(05:48):
to jobs or on Momdannie running as a proud socialist
and winning, and he mentions that economically, his list of
proposals is practically a Saturday Night Live skit. Freeze the
city owned grocery stores, fast fair, free buses, no cost childcare.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
In mcgert jokes how about.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Free cheeseburgers for the elderly man, but he mentions that
it's working. And one response to the prospect of Meyrimum
Donnie is to point out the economic flaws with socialism
and why it is doomed to fail. I've done that
over and over again. The critiques are all thoughtful and correct,
thank you, Bill, but they don't seem to be denting
(06:27):
his popularity. Why Sidney Hook knew the answer? Sydney Hook
was a philosopher at New York University. He lived from
nineteen oh two to nineteen eighty nine. He started out
as a Marxist, but later became a leading critic of communism,
and he wrote in his nineteen eighty seven biography the following,
(06:49):
I was guilty of judging capitalism by its operations and
socialism by its hopes and aspirations, Capitalism by its works,
and socialism by its literature. To this day, this error
and its disastrous consequences are observable in the judgment and
behavior of some impassioned individuals, mostly young.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
That reminds me of the tendency we all have to
judge ourselves by our intentions, but other people by the
things they actually.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Do and usually the worst of their actions. Yeah, yeah,
I think that is so good. That is one of
the clearest. I've actually copied it, pasted it, and I'm
going to put it up in the studio. I was
guilty of judging capitalism by its operations and socialism by
its hopes and aspirations, capitalism by its works, and socialism
by its literature. To this day, this error and its
(07:41):
disastrous consequences, and they are of a are observable and
the judgment and behavior of some impassioned individuals, mostly young, and.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
McGirt writes almost forty years later.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Those words help explain why the Mamdanni campaign holds such appeal,
especially among young people who have no experience with how
socialism actually works. With happy talk about free things, but
that means taking wealth from those who have earned it,
or an a from those who have earned it and
giving it to those who haven't, or forcing people to
spend their money in ways they don't want. How about
lifelong liberal Democrat Bill Maher calling Mom Dani a communist, Yeah,
(08:18):
on his show, because Bill seen socialism tried and fail
miserably over and over again.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
He's old enough to know that's wild. This would be
quite the fun ride. Then, now listen to this.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Would you two thirds of Republicans view capitalism positively two thirds,
it's forty four percent of independence less than half, which
just sucks, and twenty five percent of Democrats. Just twelve
percent of Republicans view capitalism negatively compared to twenty eight
(08:49):
percent of independence, So independences are just kind of wishy
washy overall, but forty five percent of Democrats view the
free market negatively. I'm back to wanting to divide the
country into two countries. You can decide how to do
that exactly, running a ten year experiment and then getting
(09:09):
together to compare notes. I can't wait. And then people
point out it's kind of happening with people self separating,
you know, fleeing cal Unicornia for instance, to the Tennessees
of the world.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I don't know if you've ever listened to it's one
of the best podcasts that ever existed. He got into
podcasting early, so he has one of the biggest podcasts
in the world, Russ Roberts econ Talk, which he started
like before anybody ever heard of a podcast. Anyway, he's
brilliant and I was listening to him on somebody Else's
podcast talking about how, you know, all the problems that
(09:44):
free market capitalism has and creative destruction and ups and
downs of the economy and people getting laid off. You know,
there's a lot of a lot of unfair using finger quotes,
bad things that happen in that system, and you end
up with inequality.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And all kinds of different things.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
But there is no fix to that that wouldn't make
it worse, right, Right, people don't like uncertainty, and I
get that, and the free market has uncertainty.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
That's how it works so beautifully.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Is it's an exchange of millions trillions of bits of
information all the time, and change happens. But the very
fact that we and folks tell me if I'm wrong.
We had a bit of a negative reaction to the
word inequality because we've all been taught that inequality is bad, right,
(10:37):
and in some ways, like in terms of enforcement of
civil rights. It is bad, but economic inequality. You explain
to me the system that brings about economic equality, To
paraphrase Thomas soul I raised three children, same parents, same household,
same principles, same discipline, same everything, and we are going
(10:58):
to have three wildly economic outcomes. You explain to me,
If you can't get equality quote unquote in a single family,
how are you gonna do it again across society? What
sort of extreme dictatorial powers must you hold to even
hope to do that.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Inequality exists, it will always exist, It must always exist economically.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Well, if you're you're young, especially, you could buy the
idea that there's got to be a better way. Then,
so you dedicate your life to be becoming really good
at something, and you go to work for a company
and you do really well.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Then all of a sudden, a new technology comes.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Along and that thing that you know how to do
is irrelevant, and all of a sudden, you're twenty eight,
thirty eight, fifty eight years old and your skill is
not needed by anyone anywhere. It's worthless. All of a sudden,
seems like that can't be the best system, but it.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Is come up, especially given the especially given the pace
of that sort of change in the modern world.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I'm not without sympathy now, getting back.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
To what you say, any system that seeks to quote
unquote correct at it's gonna be far worse always.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Every time it's tried. And that's that's a tough thing
to accept. Sure, get that. I get it too, Mom.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Donniewey eyed youngsters can't accept it, Mam. Donnie's got a
different idea and he's gonna win tonight. We got more
run man.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's not actually right.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It's ann will win. Maybe we'll all learn how to
say his name.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Stay here.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
We didn't do the story the other day, some horrible
story about a roller coaster or something went wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh it was It was a ferris wheel at a fair.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Two girls fell out of Oh hor horrible.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, was it a problem something the girls did, like
climbed out of their seats that they shouldn't have done.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
No, is there a problem with the ferris wheel. It
was a problem with the ferris wheel.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It was one of those ones where they're in the
buckets and they swing as the ferris wheel goes around, and.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
The bucket swung back and it caught on one of
the wires of the ride. Oh my god. And yeah,
so we have a.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Good version of one of those stories that happened at
Kansas City's Worlds of Fun, which is first amazment park
I ever went to in my life. I've been there many, many,
many times. Gladys, if you could play the harp. First
time I ever went there, I was fourteen years old.
When I was fourteen, I looked like I was eight.
I was a very late bloomer and I was a
(13:27):
I don't know why I qualified to ride the ride,
but I rode the roller coaster, the one upside down
at Worlds of Fun and everything like that, and it
beat the crap out of me. I mean, my head
was just banging around on the thing. It's supposed to
go over your shoulders, but I was too little, and
it was just bashing the crap out of my head.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I was in so much pain and so frightened. It
was horrible when that thing ended. I was traumatized.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Anyway.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
At Worlds of Fun over the weekend, a Missouri couple
probably says the life of a young girl. Behind them,
they're riding a roller coaster at Worlds of Fun. They
hear a blood curdling scream that seemed different than your
normal scream of kind of joy slash fear, and she screamed,
my seat belt broke. They look, they feel behind them
(14:12):
and the young girl who's in the seat behind them,
the lap bar just broke. It wasn't down and connected.
Their season ticket holders know the roller coaster well knew
where the dips, twists and turns were that like cause
you to raise out of your seat. Dad and mom
reached behind them when we're able to like grab the
(14:33):
girl and like press down really hard on her on
the points where you would fly out of your seat
and kept her from flying out of her seat.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
The holes can't get much leverage reaching behon.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
No, they were terrified themselves that they wouldn't be able
to hold onto her. And they managed to keep her
in her seat the whole time, seventy five miles an hour,
oh some of those turns, and she survived, and they're
being hailed as heroes. And and the dad said, what
if somebody else had been in that seat that either
didn't hear the screen, or didn't have or didn't have
(15:05):
long enough arms, or were kids or whatever, should have
died it just is horrifying to think, oh.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
My gosh, and what if that ride went upside down.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
They also mentioned that the picture that they give you
at the end showed a terrified girl being held down.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And you didn't charge your twenty bucks? Did you?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
For the you nearly died and for twenty five dollars,
we'll give you this picture of you looking like you're.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
About to die. I'm that girl's parents.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I'm sending those folks at Christmas Ham every year for
the rest of their lives or something.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Holy crap, hi karma.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Can you Can you imagine the fear in their hearts,
the desperation to hold onto that poor kid.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Every time I rolled.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
A rote a roller coaster in my life, as you're
doing the click click, click up the thing, I always think,
why did I do this?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
What am I? What is the point of this? Yeah, because.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
What you're literally doing is you're trying to trick your
brain into well, your brain is believing the input it's
getting that you're doing something very dangerous and scary and
you might die until I give it to your death,
and he's giving you the adrenaline rush that would come
with almost dying. But you don't die, and then I
guess you're thrilled that you tricked yourself or something. And
(16:20):
I've never quite understood thrill rides the way a lot
of people do. I've done plenty of them. I've done
lots of them with my kids, and my kids aren't
into them, thank god, because I don't have to write
them anymore. Every time I was going click click, click,
I think why did I agree to do this? And
it was always because I didn't want to be the
guy who said, you grow it.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I'm too big of a puss.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Thank you for that. I don't ride those because I
would pass out anyway. Ah, but I appreciate your dark
description of it. But like going super fast on a
motorcycle is a little different.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Isn't it?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Is that like I don't know why of defying death too? Yeah,
that's that's a very very good point. Why do I
go fast? Where do I enjoy that? Because then that
one I can can actually die. I'm not protected, so.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It doesn't make any sense. I would always think why
in the world did I do this?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Again? Every time? I hate it? Armstrong and geddy, Thank
you mate, you made hi poses amazing stuff and all
the pants.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
We did it together.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I love.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I love panthers.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
How gotto, what's our is? English is better in my Japanese.
Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
That's Yamamoto the difference making picture for the Dodgers at
the big parade yesterdays, just looking up at the TV
they were showing some of the parade stuff. I like
the fact that what's the long blonde haired picture?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Who retired? Kershaw?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Kirshaw was wearing a sleeveless tank top, looking pretty redneck
with his hat on backwards and his long hair.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Good luck. None liked it a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Wow, he's done. You're retired. What are you gonna do?
What do you want from me?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I'm done, Hanson said. And his moves he has moves,
Kershaw has moves. Yeah apparently, okay, all right?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Wow, Wow, suburban dad mocks body of trillionaire professional athlete.
That's beneath you, Hanson, beneath you. I like it all
the way around.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Look at him, he's not in shape.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I like Hanson's comment. I like your angry reaction to it.
The whole thing is good. Wow, he Hanson is a
Padres fan. Oh that's it's Oh it's personal animosity, right, Okay,
all right, it's it's a sports fan thing. Okay, fair enough,
So all is fair in that world.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
So this is going to.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Be a conversation for the next coming weeks, months, and years.
I guess free market versus socialism. With Zohran Mandami mom
Danny winning today.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
As the mayor. Again, it's a cycle. We got to
go through this every couple decades.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Apparently we got this text though I thought we'd get
it on to represent this point of view. We don't
have a free market. Most people feel it's rigged. That's
one reason Trump won. It is Sanders is popular. True,
we have a system where the rich and influential can
get laws passed in favor of their business or status.
It's not a free market when the thumb is on
the scale against unions. It's not a free market. When
(19:39):
CEOs make one hundred to a thousand times that of
their workers, it's not.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
A free market.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
When corporate boards are made up of business owners rewarding
each other for cutting jobs.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Wow, that's as absolutely good stuff. It would take a
college class. Do n tangle that.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I almost want to go sentence by sentence. Yeah, some
of that I agree with some of that, I don't.
The part that I.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Definitely agree with it is is it a lot why
Trump and Bernie Sanders have the popularity that they have
is people believing the system is rigged.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Well, I would say this to you, my friend, I
actually agree with you in principle that free market fans
like I'll just speak for myself, like myself think the
crony capitalism part of our law and society and government
has grown.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Way too big, way too big.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
But the Bernies of the world want to go way
further down that road, with the government picking more winners
than losers.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah, I had the problem. I want to go backward. Yeah,
that is the interesting part. Always in any free market capitalism,
there's going to be some rigging the system, great or small.
Just it's man, it's hard to avoid. But if you
go down the road to socialism, then then everything is rigged.
Every single aspect of everything is rigged all the time.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
So, and a friend, I would ask you this, when
the government is in charge of everything, who's ear or
who's going to have that ultra powerful government's ear the
common man? Ah, hilarious. That's another one of the seductive
lies of socialism. Please, The more power the government has,
the more it responds only to the powerful.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Second note, and.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Again, you know, I'd love to pick a part that email,
including the parts I agree with.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
The idea that the deck is stacked against.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
The unions is one of the funniest things I've ever
heard in my life. I congratulate you on your exquisite
comedy styling.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I have long been interested in this question of why
CEOs used to make like fifteen times the average worker
and then it became a thousand times the average worker
in their company. I've never quite understood what changed there.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Is it economics or cultural?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Was the change has to do with the boards of
directors as well?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, yeah, but that whole relationship. What changed there?
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Did they just inch up little by little and people said, wow,
look what he's getting away with.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Let's see how far I can go?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Or what would it take to lure the high performers.
I mean, but baseball player salaries of skyrocketed as well.
Why because there's tons more revenue?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, well, you.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Know this is a very fudgy answer, But I do
enjoy fudge.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I don't I find fudge too much? Oh really, I
love a brownie, brownies. I eat a pan of brownies
all day long. Fudge just too rich for air. Perhaps
eat less of it. I don't know how much fudge
do you eat? And half undal sitting? Oh that's reasonable.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Judy and I almost went into a fudge shop the
other day. We were in a touristy area a fudge
But the last time we went into a fudge shop
it was near closing, and I told this story on
the air. I think that the the plucky youngster behind
the counter. He said, so, what brings you folks to town?
We said, well, we're celebrating our anniversary.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I think it was our thirty eighth and thirty eighth.
The traditional gift is fudge right clearly. And he said,
oh my gosh, that's great. Congratulations. I love seeing that. Here.
I tell you what, here's you paid for one pound?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Whatever it is too And they said, you know what,
we're almost closing time.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Which which one do you want to try? That way?
I said, well that looks good. And we walked out
of there with like.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Four or five pounds of fudge, a lot of fudge,
just the two of us.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
We couldn't eat that in a decade.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
So much better as a couple you had walked out
of a hospital with a baby that weighed roughly the same.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, amudge, sweet kid.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Though, it was kind of nice that we responded to
a long term, stable marriage with that sort of you know,
and to encourage more long term marriages.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
The dangling, the reward of.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Fudge, the fabulous gift of fudge. Yes, oh that's right.
I was going to give you my fudgy answer. I
would love to dig further into that question about the
CEO salaries, how it's gone from ten times the salary
of the lowest level worker or whatever, fifteen to you know,
twenty thousand or whatever the hell it is. But from
(24:08):
what I've read so far, and this is the fudge delicious,
fudgy answer, some of it is legitimate market forces at work,
and some of it is the whole back scratching boards
of directors who all know each other, and it's a
you know, limited cabal of the super rich. You take
care of each other. It's it's you know, both legitimate
(24:29):
and the illegitimate. So I apologize if you don't like
fudge or fudgy answers but a lot of that stuff.
Again that the short story long is you're complaining about
moving away from the free market, So saying we don't
have a free market. No, yeah, I know, I know,
and I all like it. But going further down your
(24:50):
road would be an insane solution. So I'd be like
heeding more fudge to kier obesity. To return to our theme. Wow,
and actually fudge is not that terrible for you. It's
got sugar, but it's it's better for you than like
milk chocolate.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
And that's is it? Really? Yeah, maybe I should get
on the fudge train.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Oh, come on, anyway, where were we?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I knew there was something else we wanted to talk about. Oh,
you know, we could take a break semi on time
and and uh and talk about this next segment.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I want to point out how carmel apples is that
our topic? Another delicious trait.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
If I wasn't allergic to apples, I would have a
caramel apple every single week anyway. Oh yeah, weekly caramel
apple keeps the doctor way and keeps the dentist to
you know busy.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
The fact that like the US, like Bill Gates, many
countries around the world are turning away from the cult
like climate change, sacrifice your economy to green energy just
fantasy thing. So more on that to come. After a
word from her friends at web roots.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
You get worried about being hacked practically every day when
I'm getting emails or text and like, is this legit
from a company where I got a bill with them
that I don't remember? I can't click on it. Then
I try to you know that whole thing? Is this
a phishing scam? Webroot makes me feel a lot more comfortable.
Webroot Total Protection blocks threats before they reach you, protects
your passwords, even monitors the dark web for your info
(26:23):
to try to fight against phishing, ransomware, all the problems
that are out there.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Plus, a webroot is cheaper than the competition. It installs
in minutes, uses way less space on your computer, no
price gouging, no nonsense, and come on secure VPN from
up to ten devices.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That's great. Protect yourself today.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Get sixty percent off webroot Total Protection at webroot dot com.
Slash armstrong that's sixty percent off, but only at that link.
Protect yourself and your loved ones. Go to webroot dot
com slash armstrong. Now don't miss out one more time.
It's webroot dot com slash armstrong. Stays say stybers cyberstate
what stay a cyber safe sixty percent off webroot dot.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Com slash armstrong. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I would like it for reading and talking at the
same time. I apologize deeply and humbly.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
I would like to know what piece of information got
to Bill Gates that made him change his mind and
the whole climate change threat? Was there a specific study
did a guy he respects say, hey.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Bill, the whole climate change thing? You know, let me
tell you something about that. I wonder what she knocked
around the dominant theory the other day. It's just money?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Maybe right that that AI, which is the future of tech,
consumes so much energy.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
If there was no chance before that.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
The windmills and solar panels were going to power the world.
Now it's hilarious to even propose that, because AI such an.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Energy suck could be and to AI is really undoable.
If you're gonna have windmills, well.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
The world is turning away from that. We'll tell you
about that. Plus a book so bad it shattered liberals,
faith and DEI A review of kg PAS Independent a
look inside a broken white house outside the party lines.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
It's had some pretty bad reviews already, so lots on
the way. Stay here.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I want to take Congress to the La Dodgers who
won the World Series this weekend, and it's thrilling Game seven.
If you're in La, get ready to meet a whole
bunch of babies names show hey in exactly nine months?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
What okay?
Speaker 4 (28:28):
So I didn't realize that a shirtless Clayton Kershaw joined
the postgame show after the Dodgers won the World Series.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
And he is thick with two c's. So I'm the
longest turvy. I've long had this standard.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
As you know, if you display your body to the public,
the public gets to comment on it.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I mean, if that's just the way it works, that's unfair.
Solid a cup right there.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, if you don't want people to come and I
don't walk shirtless, he's completely shirtless as a forty year
old too, walking up to the postgame show.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
That's pretty funny. Wow. Wow. So there are a couple
of topics.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Climate cultism is one and gender cultism is another. Where
the tide is finally starting to turn. Although I would argue,
you've got a hell of a long road to go
before sanity's really install restored. And we've got a gender
bending madness update coming up next hour. But on the
climate thing, Bill Gates made a lot of headlines this
week when he said, essentially, yeah, maybe like doing everything
(29:32):
we can possibly do to reduce emissions at the cost
of our economies and standards of living, etc. Is maybe
not the right strategy. Why don't we just deal with
maybe some of that's comfort slight climate changes might cause
and look after people being able to feed themselves and
not die of diseases and stuff like that, instead of
(29:53):
putting all of our eggs in the climate basket. Why
he made that change, Maybe he just woke up to
reality in my opin, or whether he's motivated by AI's
voracious need for electricity, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Well, just his flat statement of mankind is not going
to come to its end because of climate change. Well,
what's the flat out opposite of what he've been saying
for twenty years?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Well, and also the idea that we in particular the
Western world, because the other parts of the world don't
give a crap, that we can make these enormous sacrifices
and it will turn.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
The tide has never been true.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
It was demonstrably false for years, and he's finally woken
up to it. Anyway, I thought this was interesting headline,
The World turns to Energy Pragmatism happens to be in
the Dispatch Energy section sponsored by the Pacific Legal Foundation.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Good friends of the Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
And Getty Show and let's see Roger Pilke is writing
about the fact that you've got leaders all around the
world saying similar things, like Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney.
A decade ago, he warned that remaining fossil fuel reserves
may become unburnable if the world wants to avoid a
climate catastrophe. In recent months, he's fast tracked approval of
(31:12):
new liquefied natural gas export terminals in British Columbia, promising
quote to transform our.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Country into an energy superpower. Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
In the UK, Prime Minister Keir Starmer, who needs to
get out of office as soon as possible, must soon
decide whether to relax aggressive climate targets that have crippled
Britain's economy. A government insider recently told The Guardian, quote,
if it comes to a choice between hitting the climate
target and overpaying, or missing it and keeping costs down.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
We're gonna miss it.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, Britain went net zero and just destroyed their economy.
As listening to a podcast about that a couple of
weeks ago, and it was shocking that I wasn't more
aware of this, the damage they did to their own
economy over this.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Thank god we didn't. Oh yeah, yeah, you got your.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
German Chancellor Freddie Merts recently acknowledged the competing economic objectives
that a company an ambitious climate agenda.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
None of us are questioning the goal of climate protection.
All of us are of the opinion we must combine
this with the competitiveness of European industry. All the people
who have had their economic prospects crushed over the last
fifteen years are probably saying, oh, great, way to wake
up now, Fred, But it is actually more than that.
Like your Greek prime minister, Unpronounceable, writing for The Financial Times,
(32:29):
argued in favor of a more pragmatic energy transmission transition.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
If we must accept some emissions for a bit longer
to save our industries or to maintain social cohesion, so
be it we have to have these debates. Honestly, we
cannot begin with climate neutrality and hope everything else falls
into place.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, a lot of us have been saying that for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, practically word for word, one or two, more and
then more on that theme. Chris Coons of Delaware, a
highly partisan Democrat, told Politico that climate is not a
top three issue right now.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Senator Brian Schatz of Hawaii. It's a pretty name when
even further or arguing at an unfortunate event, Yes, at
a New York Times event last month, that costs need
to be front and center when talking about energy. Quote,
you could talk about the planetary emergency and mitigation and adaptation.
You could throw in some environmental justice rhetoric, but by
(33:27):
the time you're done talking, people don't think you care
about them. The way the victory is to talk about price. Okay, welcome,
glad to have you at the party. I think, sure,
we're just cleaning up and washing the dishes.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yes, you've you've been having a shats on the American
people for too long with your climate cultism.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Oh my god. So the one.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Bitter note about people finally coming correct. Careers were crushed,
people were run out of science and academia for saying
these very things. Are like canceled on Twitter and Facebook
for saying the very things the left is now saying.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Got to hope.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Have we learned something from COVID or climate and the
trans craziness that you got to let people have their
opinions out there.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Probably for a while we have, and then those lessons
get fuzzier over time and you repeat them. History doesn't
repeat itself, but it rhymes, as they say.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Still laughing over her? Did you want a joke? How
da you? I agree? Shut up this time? I agree
with you. Shut up you.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
She's a poor autistic kid who got exploited by adults
who made millions of dollars off the climate scam.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I shouldn't be mean to her. I mean, she's an
adult now, but please, well then I should be back
in school. You know you're right. I agree. They ran
into the problem.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
The climate change activists of like a lot of doomsday cults,
like you know the world is going to end on
twenty nineteen. Twenty nineteen comes in the world doesn't and
you kind of and ruins your credibility. And that's what
happened with a lot of your climate change stuff. I mean,
you go back and look at some of the things
Al Gore claimed was gonna happen by by twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah uh yeah, Well, and then the claims of the
effect that their policies would have are completely fanciful. You
haven't changed the output of you know, crap globally speaking,
nearly enough to crap. That's a nice technical term, you know,
the fossil fuels and carbon and the rest of it.
(35:33):
You haven't changed it nearly enough to matter. So quit
wasting our time in economies on your cult. And again,
how often do you see this pattern? There are people
making billions and billions of dollars off of selling climate fear.
And then you've got the good hearted, soft headed Gretitunebergs
(35:54):
of the world and the college kids on the campuses
who believe it with one hundred percent sincere and they're
the army that marches for the activists.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I think, in honor of Dick Cheney's passing, we should
waterboard Bill Gates to find out what made him change
his mind.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I love that IDEA loving tribute to the great Dick
Cheney next hour as well.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Stay with us Okay Lots on the way if you
miss again the podcast
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Armstrong and Getty
Hosts And Creators
Joe Getty
Jack Armstrong
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies!
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, And Charlamagne Tha God!