November 5, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- Mamdani... Mayor of NYC & the D.S.A.
- Missing CA hiker
- The best place to park your money & where IS your money?
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the
George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Thank you to those so often forgotten by the politics
of our city who made this movement their own. I
speak of Yemeny bodega owners.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
And Mexican upwellas.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Senegalese taxi drivers and who's beck nurses, Trinidadian lime cooks,
and Ethiopian aunties.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yes, aunties. That's some pretty good smack right there. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
He is a fabulous talented populist and a Marxist and
Islamist and incredibly dangerous, but he's skilled.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Oh oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
And one of the problems with that. And while it's
nice that you want to stand up for that crowd
you just mentioned, you also need the kind of regular
makes a lot of money taxpayer to fund everything. And
if they decide you ain't, you ain't helping me in anyway.
They're they're a outsy.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yes, Margaret Thatcher reminded us, sooner or later, you run
out of other people's money to spend. So that's uh
zoron Mumdani obviously is victory speech in New York City
last night. I'm reminded of the uh, the great transition
Marxism made after the whole workers of the world unite
thing failed.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Excuse me, uh, it failed.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Completely because the workers of the world were like, I
kind of have a good deal up for shop form
and I'm making a decent living and blah blah blah.
So communism failed to spread, and so it became I
won't bore you with the details, but it became outsiders
of the world unite, sexual outside immigrants, ethnic outsiders. That's
why he went through that long list. I'm with you,
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We're going to overthrow the evil system anyway, So one
more chunkiness speech.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
And still think it is interesting that Bill Maher referred
to him as a Communist on his HBO show of
Friday Night.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, I think it's probably true.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Bill Maher grew up in New York and as a
lifelong Democrat and voted for Kamala Harris that Bill Maher
refers to mom Donnie as a communist.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Here is a key moment from his speech last night.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
After all, the conventional wisdom would tell you that I
am far from the perfect candidate. I am young, despite
my best efforts to grow older. I am Muslim. I
am a Democratic Socialist, and most damning of all, I
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refuse to apologize for any of this.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Nobody's asked you to apologize for being Muslim, per se.
Uh So, when the Democratic Socialists of America and he
pledges his loyalty to them, were founded in nineteen eighty two,
is by this guy by the name Michael Harrington, who
was a public intellectually as an organizer, and the democratic
part of it was really important. He was anti Communist
in pro Israel for his entire life. And while he
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opened the doors of the DSSA to Leninists, Marxist Trotskyists,
and other aging radicals, the official line of the DSA
was pretty comparable to like a Ted Kennedy or a
George McGovern just a left lefty of the past.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I've never been able to wrap my head around Trotskyism
versus Leninism versus whatever. And I've tried a bunch of times. Yeah, yeah,
I just it's all crap. So what Brandon crap it is?
I just I run out of patience.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
But so, for instance, the DSA wanted to raise the
minimum wage bad idea of nationalized health insurance they weren't
openly calling for the proletariat sees the means of production, etc.
And then Eli Lake in The Free Press points out
that now the DSA is a very, very different beast
than what Harrington founded in nineteen eighty two. Today the
DSA is run by activists enamored with the authoritarian left.
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It's comrades attend talks at the Cuban mission to the
United Nations to hear from the regime's deputy Foreign Minister.
It's national program calls for a new constitution that replaces
the House and Senate with a single federal legislature and
places quote workers in charge of the government.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
What the hell does that mean?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Well, it reminds me of DEI. We want diversity. What
does that mean? It means people who think exactly what
we mean, exactly what we think, and will claim it's
about race because Americans are afraid to be racist.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
But it's entirely ideological.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
You name a time they brought in a black conservative
to some DEI pro It will never ever happen.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's a canard, it's a head fake. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
The DSA supports prison abolition, literally emptying the prisons.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
To respond to that, Yeah, believe in jail okay.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Last year, the DSA signed onto an open letter respecting
the rigged election in Venezuela, even after virtually every independent
observer and Latin American governments said its dictator, Nicholas Medora,
had stolen it.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
DSA former member Jake Altman was interviewed for the Breaking
History podcast and he said, quote, it's very clear that
these Trotskyist groups, these Marxist Leninist groups, these Maoist groups,
they're a voting block in the national organization. They control
a majority of the votes. So there's this real tension
between the people who have more pragmatic means and people
who are these purists who believe they're going to start
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a vanguard party and have a revolution. This time around,
the DSA is about to win the biggest election in
the history. At the very moment, the party itself has
been hijacked by illiberal revolutionaries who literally display hammers and
sickles in their social media profiles the way edge Lord
white nationalists bear swastikas. Maurice Issermon, an original member of
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the DSA who quit two years ago, after the party
not only failed to condemned Hummas for October seventh, but
celebrated it. He describes these new articles as entriists. In
a blistering essay for the Nation in twenty twenty three
and the Nation is a lefty publication, he wrote that
these radical caucuses achieved an effective majority inside the DSA
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in August twenty three and have been consolidating power ever since.
The radicals, he wrote, quote, believed that DSA members elected
to public office were first and foremost obliged to follow
the positions adopted by the organization, rather than that their
constituents are their own conscience, as if they were already
simple ordinate to the dictates of an old fashioned Marxist
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Leninist central committee. One DSA messaging kit after October seventh
highlighted the new radicalism. Quote Resistance comes in all forms,
armed struggle, general strikes, and popular demonstrations. Not only do
do they not, you know, decry political violence, they call
for it. Responses like this led Isserman and a handful
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of other DSA members to resign and protest, among them
comedian Sarah Silverman, who posted on Instagram, all caps FU,
You're not real Democratic socialists, and you sure as f
aren't liberal.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
They are hard core Marxist Leninists, and they're proud of it.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
They don't hide it.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
They tell you what they are, they tell you who
they are, and they tell you what they're trying to do.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
And first first words out of his mouth last night
were from Eugene Debs, the most successful socialist in American history.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And now this accident. He had written.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
He knew he was gonna win, and he wrote his
speech right, And we have this weird laziness defense mechanism.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
What is it, Jack, You can tell me what it
is that in the US we think, come on, those
people will never get over. It'll never happen here. They'll
they'll come and they'll go this is a fad.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It'll be fine. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
George Will was writing about this in the Washington Post
about how every generation or so you have to re
teach people that socialism doesn't work. It is interesting that
because we are the best example in world history of
free market self governance working, we just assume that everybody
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gets it by looking around, and we've got the highest
standard of living anybody's ever had in world history.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
What do you mean you hate your own country. What
do you mean you want to change systems? Right? Right?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
You know, I just did a long read about both
Cambodia and Somalia, how the promises of socialism turned into
communist totalitarianism and the horrors that followed. And we're made
of much much stronger stuff than those places. I'm not
claiming we're like a teetering, little, brand new republic that's
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had one election under its belt, but that kind of
that over confidence that leads us to, for instance, let
the radical left educate our children for a few generations
and think, yeah, that's not good. But I'm not gonna
worry about it. I'm not going to go to a
school board meeting. It's not that big a deal. I'm
telling you. We are going to reap what we sewed.
Wake up, friends, Michael, isn't it time to play the
(09:42):
Joe Getty cold warrior sound?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I mean, god, cold warrior.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
And I hate to undermind my own point with humor,
but this is not the paranoid ramblings of a crazy
old guy. This this is so well documented over and
over in history how these movements get power and how
they exploit it. I'm trying to tell you. It can
happen here. It'll be a hell of a battle. But
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and they won't get over like Cambodia. But what I'm
saying is the further we let it go, it's like
a disease, an infection. The further we let it go,
the more painful it will.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Be to beat it back. Maybe that's the rallying cry.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
The hope, of course, is that he is going to
He's going to be the bad example, a good example
of a bad example, of a bad result, and display
for the whole country on the biggest stage why this
doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Hopefully that's what happens. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
The problem is, and we talked about this at length yesterday.
If you didn't get it, subscribe to the podcast Armstrong
and Getting on demand, is that socialism is built on
the excuse of no, they didn't let us do it
our way, they didn't let it just do it completely.
The money guys in New York stopped what could have
been the revolution. Blah blah blah, and the dewey I
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dumb ass youngsters will say, yeah, yeah, we didn't really
get to try it. We got ninety eight percent of it,
but that last two percent, that was the two percent.
That mattered, So let's try it again.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
So and then you could end up with since forty
percent of the young people identified themselves as socialists last night,
then you end up with something like seventy percent of
young people identifying him, and you got a big enough
number of voters. It's not just the mayor, it's the
whole city council, and you know, handful of state representatives,
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and you actually start to get some.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Power, rights to do some things. And they do have
that increasingly, Like the.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
How did the election go in Minneapolis where that Marxist
Somali refugee was running for mayor?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
They were still counting.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
They were still counting as of this morning in both
of those races.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, and there are a couple other socialists running out.
It's definitely a tide that is trickling in.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Heck of a thing. Irma gird will be fun to watch.
The American experiment has gone so beautifully. We've decided nothing
can ever threaten.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It, and we got to take a break.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
But you know, a week or so ago, when he
was talking about his auntie who was afraid to wear
a job on ther you live in such a islamophobic city,
they elected an unqualified Muslim as mayor. That's how islamophobic
New York is. You're standing up in front of a
cheering crowd you won by twenty twenty five points and
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claiming that you overcame. He actually said, we don't have this.
In one of them, he actually said, against all odds,
against all odds, you were twenty five points.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I had the entire race. He ran against an elderly
groping crook. Where's the against all odds part? And all
the dewey eyed kids slap it all up? Yeah, yes,
we did it. He did it against all odds.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Any thoughts on any of that?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Our text line four one five two nine five kftcar.
It was supposed to be a half day hunting trip
in woods that Ron Daily knew well until one wrong turn.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
And when I went down this hill, we going, oh God,
this seemed good. And in about three o'clock it started snowing.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
No way out, no way to communicate, and almost no supplies.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
And I had fourteen bottles of water, about nine hundred
calories were the food with.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Me weeks past, and all Daily had left was his faith.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Then on day twenty, God woke me up at six
forty five Saturday morning, he goes wrong, get your boots on.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Skoolwalking Daily calls. What happened next a miracle.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
And they started yelling my name and they drove up
to me. It was his phenomenal three great men and
they saved my life.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Okay, we're still missing some details here. So he's older
than I was picturing. From the sound of it. We
did this story yesterday. The guy is stranded out in
the woods for three weeks.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, twenty days.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
That's a long time. And my first and he didn't
leave his spot, it seems. And my first question was,
why don't you start walking the road You couldn't get
your car up, but walk straight back out the way.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
You came in. I mean three weeks is a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I have to know where what sort of terrain he
was in. He was at the bottom of the hill
because he couldn't get back up. What made him think
staying there was a good strategy? If he was an
experienced woodsman, maybe he has an explanation, but I'd like
to know what it is.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
From the looks of it, it looked kind of like
a rock querry, really off like off balanced terrain. It
was snowing, and he's he's sixty five years old.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Oh, I'm going to stay here in this hole? Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Uh, I don't love that as a strategy. I wasn't there.
I'm not trying to be smug. I just don't get it.
I mean, you don't necessarily want to wander off into
the cold and snow either.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
But you gotta three weeks.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You gotta assess what are my chances of being seen
here down in this hole?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Do you have a cell phone?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Sounds like he didn't because they said he had no
way of communicating.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Well, yeah, there are plenty of places out there in
the wilds where a cell phone might as well be wrong.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Don't you have the if you got to know the
satellite call, if you got a newer cell phone anywhere
on the planet Earth, you just find the satellite in
the sky and you can text people.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I do it all the time. Maybe he didn't know,
Maybe he didn't satellite in the sky. How do you
do that? Do you go up into the sky looking
for it? Okay, interesting talking about it. I'm not just
gonna keep yelling from explaining yourself.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I thought everybody had used this technology it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Explains it to you on your phone.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
It says no cell service, find a satellite, and it
tells you which direction to point, and it shows the
sound lights. It says, lock onto that one, and you
just put your phone that way.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Anywhere on the planet. You could be on the middle
of the ocean.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
And then as soon as you lock onto that satellite,
you can text anybody just like you got cell service.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, what a great time to be alive.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Communists are taking over the country, but the technology is
pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, that's amazing. So yeah, so you know, if you're
going to go off into the middle of by just
the three weeks, that is a long time. How long
was he willing to wait? Since people showed up after
three weeks? Was he just gonna go ahead and start.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Death out there?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I'm gonna give this staying in a hole plan I
don't know, maybe three weeks nobody comes bay, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Climb out of the hole and take a walk. He's
incredibly patient. Yes, that's what we should admire.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
His patient thinking three four days in, I'm rubbing my chin, thinking,
you know, maybe plan B and.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Hey, he had fourteen bottles of water.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
That's pretty good. Those people don't just have fourteen bottles
of water on, you know, on them.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, that was fortunate. Saved his life probably. Man, it's
a long time. What do you do all day? Every day?
What's another song? I could whistle?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Okay, we got more on the waist there, Armstrong and Get.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
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Speaker 2 (17:22):
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Speaker 7 (17:28):
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Speaker 4 (17:39):
For some reason, yesterday I made a sandwich with some
left over try tip and I didn't have very much,
so I put a couple of slices of the last
of my ham on top of it because I'd nevery
much of that. And the combination of the two. Damn it.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That was a good sandwich. How interesting? I don't know,
old Yeah, so good.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Combining the swine with the cow controversial.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
The whole barnyard. So Neil Katel name for it, the
barnyard sandwich. Back to you.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I don't know the names of many high profile lawyers,
but I do know this one.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Neil Kattel.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
He is he represents whoever will hire him All kinds
of different stuff, and he's just one of the best
arguers in the world, and he ends up in front
of the Supreme Court all the time and has over
some of the biggest issues of our lives. Even if
you don't remember his name, he's in front of the
Supreme Court today. I don't even know which side he's on.
I suppose we'll be able to figure it out from
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the conversation he he's in the Supreme Court today where
they're trying to figure out whether or not Donald Trump
actually does have the legal right to get into all
these tariffs solely on his order. Let's listen to a
little from the oral arguments going forward.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
The solution they said in footnote thirty three was to
use Section one twenty two of the nineteen seventy f
or A Trade Act fifteen percent one hundred and fifty days.
So we have no problem with the president doing that.
It's just that this president has torn up the entire
tariff architecture. You know, for example, he's teriffing Switzerland, one
of our allies, which we have a trade surplus thirty
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nine percent. That is just not something that any president
has ever had the power to do. In our history,
and the idea that Congress by implication did this in
nineteen seventy seven and handed him all this power I
think is really difficult.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Okay, So making the argument, well, this has been true
about the whole TARFF thing from the beginning, right, So
they they come up with what they think will be
the rationale, kind of case by case. It's a fentanyl, Yeah,
that's it. It's a national emergency. That's why it's a
trade imbalance. It's a trade imbalance. That's a national emergency,
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except for it's not here. It's just an an I
guess revenue or I've got a long held beef that
we're such a dominant economy we can bend other people
to our will, which I think is really it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Right, Yeah, we can strong arm a better deal and
they will pay dearly to sell it in our shopping mall.
It's not an insane notion, it's just an unconstitutional one
in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
So, speaking of the economy, I was listening to a
podcast about the economy the other day, is actually a
Dispatch podcast, and they got into the whole our current
debt and thirty five trillion dollars or whatever the heck
it is, and how something that can't continue will end
as we all know, and what it's going to look like.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Anyway, they got into.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
The whole argument of we're not as good a risk
as we used to be on the world stage for
people to invest their money in the United States around
the world. But the point being, if we're ever not
the best pace to put your money, where you put
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your money is not the issue. You need to not
invest in like you know, tech in Germany. You need
to invest in bullets and food because everything has come
off the rails in a way that the world has
never seen.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Ah, which makes sense. I right, right, Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
That's the level of crisis we'd be talking about if
we ever aren't the best place to park your money.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Right, Wow, what an interesting insight that I'd say it is. Yeah,
it rings true too, yesh.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I hope that doesn't happen in my lifetime.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
There are a number of things I kind of am
looking forward to happening in my lifetime, even if they
they're good, like watching the whole young people are Socialists
thing play out. How's that gonna work? It's gonna suck,
I think, and I worry about where it's going to go,
But man, I don't want the really bad everybody else
all of a sudden, completely bro. You thought you had
worked your whole life and saved and things were okay,
and it turns out you're not. I don't want to
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lift through that. It's happened in many countries throughout history,
including this one in the thirties.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I don't even want to think about that. O don't either.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
It's too horrifying. Yes it is, here's one for you. No,
I'm not even gonna say it.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's too nightmarish. No, I can't.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Wow, you've come up with a night Does it include
a radiation and a lizard getting really tall and smashing
buildings with its feet?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
How'd you know in subway trains?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
No, here it is.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And I think about this more than I should. Where's
your money? I'm asking everybody it's held in this account,
that account, unless you got gold bars buried in your backyard.
China has already hacked into our various financial systems, and
they just either wipe everybody's books clean or render it
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impossible to transfer funds electronically in any way.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
For years.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I don't know if it have to be years. I
don't even know how many days it would have to
be before things would get really crazy.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I mean we had both, We and many many folks
listening have been working their entire lives and saving and
doing the right things. But I don't know about you.
My money is essentially being held in little zeros and
ones sure on a server symptoms right exactly. I can
call up you know this and then Charles Schwaber whoever's
(23:43):
got you know this chunk of my money and say, hey, dudes,
just last week you had X amount of my money.
I need some of it now. And they're like, if
it's not on this screen, don't funny thing about that. Yeah, yeah,
I hear what you're saying. And yet the Chinese act
into our computers, so I don't know if you've got
one hundred bucks or one hundred million bucks, good luck
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with that click.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You think they'd hang out with it so well, they're
tired of taking calls from people like me. They're fed up.
How about years?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
But a guy, if that, if that lasted a week,
the panic you would have in the country, Oh what
do you do?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I mean, back in the thirties, you'd have a run
on the bank. Literally people would line up outside the
bank and demand their money because they were afraid their
deposits wouldn't be there because of the way banks work.
We all know that, right now, what are you gonna do.
You're gonna stand there screaming at your.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
Laptop, thread it with a ball, bath money your bathroom,
start pounding on it, go to their corporate headquarters and
chant with a few of your friends.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
How much less.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Prepared are we individually for a global catastrophe now than
when we're in nineteen twenty nine, Like if you've read
the Grapes of Wrath, I mean, it was obviously a
very very ugly situation. But I saw the numbers the
other day. It's something like forty percent of people made
their living something adjacent to farming. Now it's ero point
three percent or something like that. I'm not raising any
(25:06):
crops or animals currently. Yeah, And so as soon as
the shelves go bear the on the store, which might
be that afternoon in a global catastria, I can't feed myself.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Then that that's where you know, we've always thought this
was coming.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
We both get in the gym and stuff, but I'm
not sure I'm hearty enough for the Apocalypse Cannibal in
my life. Yeah, well yeah, and I am delicious. Anyway,
that's enough of that. I told you it was too
horrifying to bring up. I wish I hadn't. So what
would happen if the Supreme Court says, yeah, yeah, you
can't just assign a ten percent extra terrifying Canada because
(25:43):
you're annoyed by a TV commercial. Please, what happens to
all those trade deals? Some countries would almost certainly walk
away from their agreements or renegotiate them. Some countries might think,
you know, it's a decent enough deal. Seat President could
go to Congress to say, hey, we got to put
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these trade deals into law. So now that I don't
have the power to just you know, declare them well.
President could also hire his lawyers to say, all right,
claim you can do tariffs on this pretext, and it's
possible the courts would let him for a while until
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the Supreme Court answers that question. Remember, the Supreme Court
doesn't rule on cases, it settles questions.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
But there's also the issue from what I've read that like,
maybe you paid five thousand dollars extra for a new car,
then you would have if the tariffs didn't exist.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
And you should get that money back? Who has it?
Where'd it go? How that whole thing get worked out?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Chinese hacked into it? He can't get it anyway? Eh, boy,
that'll be fun. Is there any chance of Supreme Court
makes some sort of sort of ruling where we're so
far down the road of this, it's so intermingled and complicated.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
We got a nah that that's a bad way to
go to look at it.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Yeah, you can't stick with a bad idea that was
illegal just because you're too far down the road.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Right, It'd be like Joe Biden saying, Look, I've been
running the graft game so long. My entire family depends
on it. You can't bust us now in the court
saying yeah, all those grant and.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
My son's walking around hotels naked with guns. I mean,
ye got right? Right?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Uh Yeah, that's that's unlikely. You know what, I'd love
to see. It probably won't happen, but like a nine
to o ruling that Look, Congress, do your jobs. We'll
give you us four months to do your damn job.
We've got a ruling here, it's all written out. It's
in this folder. But Congress do something.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Speaking of Congress, Marjorie Taylor Green is one of the
best known Congress people in America.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
She is a Republican. She was on the View yesterday.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
She said some really interesting things. You think Mom Dommy
might be remaking the Democratic Party? Is mt G gonna
remake what Republicans are all about? And Trump might be
with her. And I saw of a Vake Ramaswami today
talking about this populis well, hear a little of this
coming up next to here, Barty.
Speaker 10 (28:17):
I yelled at Mike Johnson last week on our GOP
conference called by the way, I'm missing the call today
it's going on right now, and I hope that Mike
Johnson is finally giving a single health care policy because
the country deserves it, and it shouldn't be a secret,
and I shouldn't have to go into a skiff to
go find our Republican health insurance plan. Very you know
(28:40):
what you want to know something that I.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Believe is the truth.
Speaker 10 (28:43):
There's a lot of ideas, there's a lot of bills,
but there's no consensus, and I think that's a failure.
Speaker 9 (28:49):
I do so.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Marjorie Taylor Green was on the View where She was
received very well because she agreed with a lot of
their populist the what's the right term? I was gonna
say downtrodden, but the masses are getting screwed and need
help from the government. Her whole thing around this shut
(29:11):
down in Obamacare comes from her two kids. We're about
to get booted off the free Obamacare and have to
start paying a lot more. And she thought that was wrong,
and it sounded like because she didn't she said single
health care policy. Did she mean single pay health care policy? Yes,
that's what she meant, as in, she wants to go
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full government healthcare. A Republican, one of the more popular,
one of the most maga Republican congress people in America
wants to go single healthcare.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So where are we?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
She has wandered far off the reservation, the Maga reservation.
I don't know what she is right now, Bill Crystal.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
I don't know if you know who Bill Crystal is.
You don't need to know who. All these people are
of a perfectly happy life. But he used to run
the Weekly Standard. His dad was Irving Crystal, one of
the most important conservative thinkers in America in the entire
twentieth century. Bill Crystal said over the weekend he would
vote for Mom Donnie the socialist, So one of the
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most important conservative voices who since has gone to Uh,
he's a Bulwark guy, right, And I think he's a
Bullwark guy or is he a Lincoln. He's one of
those groups that hates Trump, loathsome either way. And so
a guy that I watched my whole life on the
Sunday talk shows standing up for conservatism against the mainstream
media and all the nut job liberals now says he
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would vote for the communist mayor.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Of New York. Why he lost his mind.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
I didn't hear or read the why, but a lot
of people were interested in the statement he made. But
he's so anti Trump, I mean, he's blinded by his
hatred of Trump to all kinds of things, in my opinion,
But that combined with Marjorie Taylor Green want to go
single payer healthcare system. I don't know where we are.
I don't know where things are. I don't know if
the whole left right thing is going to break down completely,
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and then maybe it should and we come up with
a different kind of an alignment.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I don't know what it would be.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, Yeah, I think it would end up being like
really left and slightly less left, like England, which is terrible,
or France or Canada. Yeah, I find myself wanting to
do like an extended segment with Craig the Healthcare Guru,
just because you know, I read so much about our
healthcare system and how crony capitalism has ruined it. The
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idea that we are in the mess we're in because
of the free market is the opposite of the truth.
And Obamacare was an unbelievably insidious fix of giving enormous
gifts to various insurance companies and other entities as opposed
to letting the free market work and let consumers choose
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their health care and insurance companies are healthcare providers compete
And it's I get discouraged when we're even talking about it,
because there is so much there that a demagogue, whether
it's a a deliberate excuse me, radical like Mumdani or or.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Probably well meaning.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Not genius like MTG, they spout these solutions and people think, yeah, yeah,
that because trying to actually understand what's going on and
then overcome the power.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Of the lobbyists.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
It is just I don't know, that's like climbing three
mount everests stacked on top of each other.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I'm sorry, it's just discouraging.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
It's so screwed up and so important healthcare, I.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Mean, yeah, well just in general, who's out there making
the good argument for fiscal conservatism, traditional republican sort of.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Politics? I mean, is that just completely dead? All of that.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Let's tear apart the crony capitalism and give people the
actual right to choose no, because there are lobbyists lined
up a thousand deep ready to write gigantic checks to
lawmakers to make sure the scam continues. And I'm sorry,
it's so it's so discouraging. I don't mean to be
that way. I really don't.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
It's just a.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Realist and everything sucks and always will and compulsively honest,
and I really need to beat that impulse back to
provide a more entertaining listening product.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I apologize. I'll do better, strong.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Strong.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
In other words, there's a realignment going on that who
knows where it's going to land.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I don't know. Let's see if.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Our host for final thoughts cannot depress this.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Here he is Joe getting this.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Is why you want limited government, because once unlimited government
takes hold the power and complexity of it is impossible
to undue.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Well, sorry, I did it again. I did it again.
Speaker 9 (34:23):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Let's get a final thought from Mike Langelow.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Michael, you know, if China takes over our finances, I'm
going to go through my closet today and look for
things that I could sell.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
We may have to go back to the barn system
or eat. Yeah. How much do you think I can
get for dolphin.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Shorts three r abdominal cavity and see what you can sell.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
You're gonna be selling your spleen.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Huh, Katie Green, are esteem Newswoman?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
As a final thought, Katie, after.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
All of that uplifting stuff, I'll never be able to
look at a today the same way. After the conversation today,
I'm still.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Laughing about it. I got to figure out how to
use that thing.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
It's really not that hard. The risks are low. Jack,
Do you have a final thought for us?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I brought in all the Halloween candy from my house.
We had way too much of it. I've eaten more
candy in the last four days than I had in
the previous year.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Since last Halloween, probably I.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Mean, I just can't walk by a bag of Hershey
Kisses and not pop one in my mouth. I'm not
capable of doing it. I brought in all the Halloween candy.
Enjoy everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I'll let the preceding depressing crap be my final thought.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Again, I apologize.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
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Speaker 4 (35:38):
Okay, we'll see how this argument goes on. The whole
tariff thing. That could be a giant news story. We'll
see you tomorrow. God bless America.
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Thank you to those so often forgotten by the politics
of our city who made this movement their own. I
speak of Yemeny bodega owners.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
And Mexican upwellas.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Senegalese taxi drivers and who's beck nurses, Trinidadian lime cooks,
and Ethiopian aunties.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yes, aunties. That's some pretty good smack right there. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
He is a fabulous talented populist and a Marxist and
Islamist and incredibly dangerous, but he's skilled.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Oh oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
And one of the problems with that. And while it's
nice that you want to stand up for that crowd
you just mentioned, you also need the kind of regular
makes a lot of money taxpayer to fund everything. And
if they decide you ain't, you ain't helping me in anyway.
They're they're a outsy.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yes, Margaret Thatcher reminded us, sooner or later, you run
out of other people's money to spend. So that's uh
zoron Mumdani obviously is victory speech in New York City
last night. I'm reminded of the uh, the great transition
Marxism made after the whole workers of the world unite
thing failed.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Excuse me, uh, it failed.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Completely because the workers of the world were like, I
kind of have a good deal up for shop form
and I'm making a decent living and blah blah blah.
So communism failed to spread, and so it became I
won't bore you with the details, but it became outsiders
of the world unite, sexual outside immigrants, ethnic outsiders. That's
why he went through that long list. I'm with you,
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We're going to overthrow the evil system anyway, So one
more chunkiness speech.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
And still think it is interesting that Bill Maher referred
to him as a Communist on his HBO show of
Friday Night.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, I think it's probably true.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Bill Maher grew up in New York and as a
lifelong Democrat and voted for Kamala Harris that Bill Maher
refers to mom Donnie as a communist.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Here is a key moment from his speech last night.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
After all, the conventional wisdom would tell you that I
am far from the perfect candidate. I am young, despite
my best efforts to grow older. I am Muslim. I
am a Democratic Socialist, and most damning of all, I
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refuse to apologize for any of this.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Nobody's asked you to apologize for being Muslim, per se.
Uh So, when the Democratic Socialists of America and he
pledges his loyalty to them, were founded in nineteen eighty two,
is by this guy by the name Michael Harrington, who
was a public intellectually as an organizer, and the democratic
part of it was really important. He was anti Communist
in pro Israel for his entire life. And while he
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opened the doors of the DSSA to Leninists, Marxist Trotskyists,
and other aging radicals, the official line of the DSA
was pretty comparable to like a Ted Kennedy or a
George McGovern just a left lefty of the past.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I've never been able to wrap my head around Trotskyism
versus Leninism versus whatever. And I've tried a bunch of times. Yeah, yeah,
I just it's all crap. So what Brandon crap it is?
I just I run out of patience.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
But so, for instance, the DSA wanted to raise the
minimum wage bad idea of nationalized health insurance they weren't
openly calling for the proletariat sees the means of production, etc.
And then Eli Lake in The Free Press points out
that now the DSA is a very, very different beast
than what Harrington founded in nineteen eighty two. Today the
DSA is run by activists enamored with the authoritarian left.
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It's comrades attend talks at the Cuban mission to the
United Nations to hear from the regime's deputy Foreign Minister.
It's national program calls for a new constitution that replaces
the House and Senate with a single federal legislature and
places quote workers in charge of the government.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
What the hell does that mean?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Well, it reminds me of DEI. We want diversity. What
does that mean? It means people who think exactly what
we mean, exactly what we think, and will claim it's
about race because Americans are afraid to be racist.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
But it's entirely ideological.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
You name a time they brought in a black conservative
to some DEI pro It will never ever happen.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's a canard, it's a head fake. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
The DSA supports prison abolition, literally emptying the prisons.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
To respond to that, Yeah, believe in jail okay.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Last year, the DSA signed onto an open letter respecting
the rigged election in Venezuela, even after virtually every independent
observer and Latin American governments said its dictator, Nicholas Medora,
had stolen it.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
DSA former member Jake Altman was interviewed for the Breaking
History podcast and he said, quote, it's very clear that
these Trotskyist groups, these Marxist Leninist groups, these Maoist groups,
they're a voting block in the national organization. They control
a majority of the votes. So there's this real tension
between the people who have more pragmatic means and people
who are these purists who believe they're going to start
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a vanguard party and have a revolution. This time around,
the DSA is about to win the biggest election in
the history. At the very moment, the party itself has
been hijacked by illiberal revolutionaries who literally display hammers and
sickles in their social media profiles the way edge Lord
white nationalists bear swastikas. Maurice Issermon, an original member of
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the DSA who quit two years ago, after the party
not only failed to condemned Hummas for October seventh, but
celebrated it. He describes these new articles as entriists. In
a blistering essay for the Nation in twenty twenty three
and the Nation is a lefty publication, he wrote that
these radical caucuses achieved an effective majority inside the DSA
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in August twenty three and have been consolidating power ever since.
The radicals, he wrote, quote, believed that DSA members elected
to public office were first and foremost obliged to follow
the positions adopted by the organization, rather than that their
constituents are their own conscience, as if they were already
simple ordinate to the dictates of an old fashioned Marxist
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Leninist central committee. One DSA messaging kit after October seventh
highlighted the new radicalism. Quote Resistance comes in all forms,
armed struggle, general strikes, and popular demonstrations. Not only do
do they not, you know, decry political violence, they call
for it. Responses like this led Isserman and a handful
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of other DSA members to resign and protest, among them
comedian Sarah Silverman, who posted on Instagram, all caps FU,
You're not real Democratic socialists, and you sure as f
aren't liberal.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
They are hard core Marxist Leninists, and they're proud of it.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
They don't hide it.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
They tell you what they are, they tell you who
they are, and they tell you what they're trying to do.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
And first first words out of his mouth last night
were from Eugene Debs, the most successful socialist in American history.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And now this accident. He had written.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
He knew he was gonna win, and he wrote his
speech right, And we have this weird laziness defense mechanism.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
What is it, Jack, You can tell me what it
is that in the US we think, come on, those
people will never get over. It'll never happen here. They'll
they'll come and they'll go this is a fad.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It'll be fine. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
George Will was writing about this in the Washington Post
about how every generation or so you have to re
teach people that socialism doesn't work. It is interesting that
because we are the best example in world history of
free market self governance working, we just assume that everybody
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gets it by looking around, and we've got the highest
standard of living anybody's ever had in world history.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
What do you mean you hate your own country. What
do you mean you want to change systems? Right? Right?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
You know, I just did a long read about both
Cambodia and Somalia, how the promises of socialism turned into
communist totalitarianism and the horrors that followed. And we're made
of much much stronger stuff than those places. I'm not
claiming we're like a teetering, little, brand new republic that's
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had one election under its belt, but that kind of
that over confidence that leads us to, for instance, let
the radical left educate our children for a few generations
and think, yeah, that's not good. But I'm not gonna
worry about it. I'm not going to go to a
school board meeting. It's not that big a deal. I'm
telling you. We are going to reap what we sewed.
Wake up, friends, Michael, isn't it time to play the
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Joe Getty cold warrior sound?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I mean, god, cold warrior.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
And I hate to undermind my own point with humor,
but this is not the paranoid ramblings of a crazy
old guy. This this is so well documented over and
over in history how these movements get power and how
they exploit it. I'm trying to tell you. It can
happen here. It'll be a hell of a battle. But
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and they won't get over like Cambodia. But what I'm
saying is the further we let it go, it's like
a disease, an infection. The further we let it go,
the more painful it will.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Be to beat it back. Maybe that's the rallying cry.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
The hope, of course, is that he is going to
He's going to be the bad example, a good example
of a bad example, of a bad result, and display
for the whole country on the biggest stage why this
doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Hopefully that's what happens. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
The problem is, and we talked about this at length yesterday.
If you didn't get it, subscribe to the podcast Armstrong
and Getting on demand, is that socialism is built on
the excuse of no, they didn't let us do it
our way, they didn't let it just do it completely.
The money guys in New York stopped what could have
been the revolution. Blah blah blah, and the dewey I
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dumb ass youngsters will say, yeah, yeah, we didn't really
get to try it. We got ninety eight percent of it,
but that last two percent, that was the two percent.
That mattered, So let's try it again.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
So and then you could end up with since forty
percent of the young people identified themselves as socialists last night,
then you end up with something like seventy percent of
young people identifying him, and you got a big enough
number of voters. It's not just the mayor, it's the
whole city council, and you know, handful of state representatives,
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and you actually start to get some.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Power, rights to do some things. And they do have
that increasingly, Like the.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
How did the election go in Minneapolis where that Marxist
Somali refugee was running for mayor?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
They were still counting.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
They were still counting as of this morning in both
of those races.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, and there are a couple other socialists running out.
It's definitely a tide that is trickling in.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Heck of a thing. Irma gird will be fun to watch.
The American experiment has gone so beautifully. We've decided nothing
can ever threaten.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It, and we got to take a break.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
But you know, a week or so ago, when he
was talking about his auntie who was afraid to wear
a job on ther you live in such a islamophobic city,
they elected an unqualified Muslim as mayor. That's how islamophobic
New York is. You're standing up in front of a
cheering crowd you won by twenty twenty five points and
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claiming that you overcame. He actually said, we don't have this.
In one of them, he actually said, against all odds,
against all odds, you were twenty five points.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I had the entire race. He ran against an elderly
groping crook. Where's the against all odds part? And all
the dewey eyed kids slap it all up? Yeah, yes,
we did it. He did it against all odds.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Any thoughts on any of that?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Our text line four one five two nine five kftcar.
It was supposed to be a half day hunting trip
in woods that Ron Daily knew well until one wrong turn.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
And when I went down this hill, we going, oh God,
this seemed good. And in about three o'clock it started snowing.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
No way out, no way to communicate, and almost no supplies.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
And I had fourteen bottles of water, about nine hundred
calories were the food with.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Me weeks past, and all Daily had left was his faith.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Then on day twenty, God woke me up at six
forty five Saturday morning, he goes wrong, get your boots on.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Skoolwalking Daily calls. What happened next a miracle.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
And they started yelling my name and they drove up
to me. It was his phenomenal three great men and
they saved my life.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Okay, we're still missing some details here. So he's older
than I was picturing. From the sound of it. We
did this story yesterday. The guy is stranded out in
the woods for three weeks.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, twenty days.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
That's a long time. And my first and he didn't
leave his spot, it seems. And my first question was,
why don't you start walking the road You couldn't get
your car up, but walk straight back out the way.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
You came in. I mean three weeks is a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I have to know where what sort of terrain he
was in. He was at the bottom of the hill
because he couldn't get back up. What made him think
staying there was a good strategy? If he was an
experienced woodsman, maybe he has an explanation, but I'd like
to know what it is.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
From the looks of it, it looked kind of like
a rock querry, really off like off balanced terrain. It
was snowing, and he's he's sixty five years old.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Oh, I'm going to stay here in this hole? Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Uh, I don't love that as a strategy. I wasn't there.
I'm not trying to be smug. I just don't get it.
I mean, you don't necessarily want to wander off into
the cold and snow either.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
But you gotta three weeks.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You gotta assess what are my chances of being seen
here down in this hole?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Do you have a cell phone?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Sounds like he didn't because they said he had no
way of communicating.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Well, yeah, there are plenty of places out there in
the wilds where a cell phone might as well be wrong.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Don't you have the if you got to know the
satellite call, if you got a newer cell phone anywhere
on the planet Earth, you just find the satellite in
the sky and you can text people.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I do it all the time. Maybe he didn't know,
Maybe he didn't satellite in the sky. How do you
do that? Do you go up into the sky looking
for it? Okay, interesting talking about it. I'm not just
gonna keep yelling from explaining yourself.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I thought everybody had used this technology it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Explains it to you on your phone.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
It says no cell service, find a satellite, and it
tells you which direction to point, and it shows the
sound lights. It says, lock onto that one, and you
just put your phone that way.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Anywhere on the planet. You could be on the middle
of the ocean.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
And then as soon as you lock onto that satellite,
you can text anybody just like you got cell service.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, what a great time to be alive.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Communists are taking over the country, but the technology is
pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, that's amazing. So yeah, so you know, if you're
going to go off into the middle of by just
the three weeks, that is a long time. How long
was he willing to wait? Since people showed up after
three weeks? Was he just gonna go ahead and start.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Death out there?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I'm gonna give this staying in a hole plan I
don't know, maybe three weeks nobody comes bay, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Climb out of the hole and take a walk. He's
incredibly patient. Yes, that's what we should admire.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
His patient thinking three four days in, I'm rubbing my chin, thinking,
you know, maybe plan B and.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Hey, he had fourteen bottles of water.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
That's pretty good. Those people don't just have fourteen bottles
of water on, you know, on them.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, that was fortunate. Saved his life probably. Man, it's
a long time. What do you do all day? Every day?
What's another song? I could whistle?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Okay, we got more on the waist there, Armstrong and Get.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
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Speaker 2 (17:22):
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Speaker 7 (17:28):
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Speaker 4 (17:39):
For some reason, yesterday I made a sandwich with some
left over try tip and I didn't have very much,
so I put a couple of slices of the last
of my ham on top of it because I'd nevery
much of that. And the combination of the two. Damn it.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That was a good sandwich. How interesting? I don't know,
old Yeah, so good.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Combining the swine with the cow controversial.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
The whole barnyard. So Neil Katel name for it, the
barnyard sandwich. Back to you.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I don't know the names of many high profile lawyers,
but I do know this one.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Neil Kattel.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
He is he represents whoever will hire him All kinds
of different stuff, and he's just one of the best
arguers in the world, and he ends up in front
of the Supreme Court all the time and has over
some of the biggest issues of our lives. Even if
you don't remember his name, he's in front of the
Supreme Court today. I don't even know which side he's on.
I suppose we'll be able to figure it out from
(18:37):
the conversation he he's in the Supreme Court today where
they're trying to figure out whether or not Donald Trump
actually does have the legal right to get into all
these tariffs solely on his order. Let's listen to a
little from the oral arguments going forward.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
The solution they said in footnote thirty three was to
use Section one twenty two of the nineteen seventy f
or A Trade Act fifteen percent one hundred and fifty days.
So we have no problem with the president doing that.
It's just that this president has torn up the entire
tariff architecture. You know, for example, he's teriffing Switzerland, one
of our allies, which we have a trade surplus thirty
(19:16):
nine percent. That is just not something that any president
has ever had the power to do. In our history,
and the idea that Congress by implication did this in
nineteen seventy seven and handed him all this power I
think is really difficult.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Okay, So making the argument, well, this has been true
about the whole TARFF thing from the beginning, right, So
they they come up with what they think will be
the rationale, kind of case by case. It's a fentanyl, Yeah,
that's it. It's a national emergency. That's why it's a
trade imbalance. It's a trade imbalance. That's a national emergency,
(19:53):
except for it's not here. It's just an an I
guess revenue or I've got a long held beef that
we're such a dominant economy we can bend other people
to our will, which I think is really it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Right, Yeah, we can strong arm a better deal and
they will pay dearly to sell it in our shopping mall.
It's not an insane notion, it's just an unconstitutional one
in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
So, speaking of the economy, I was listening to a
podcast about the economy the other day, is actually a
Dispatch podcast, and they got into the whole our current
debt and thirty five trillion dollars or whatever the heck
it is, and how something that can't continue will end
as we all know, and what it's going to look like.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Anyway, they got into.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
The whole argument of we're not as good a risk
as we used to be on the world stage for
people to invest their money in the United States around
the world. But the point being, if we're ever not
the best pace to put your money, where you put
(21:02):
your money is not the issue. You need to not
invest in like you know, tech in Germany. You need
to invest in bullets and food because everything has come
off the rails in a way that the world has
never seen.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Ah, which makes sense. I right, right, Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
That's the level of crisis we'd be talking about if
we ever aren't the best place to park your money.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Right, Wow, what an interesting insight that I'd say it is. Yeah,
it rings true too, yesh.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I hope that doesn't happen in my lifetime.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
There are a number of things I kind of am
looking forward to happening in my lifetime, even if they
they're good, like watching the whole young people are Socialists
thing play out. How's that gonna work? It's gonna suck,
I think, and I worry about where it's going to go,
But man, I don't want the really bad everybody else
all of a sudden, completely bro. You thought you had
worked your whole life and saved and things were okay,
and it turns out you're not. I don't want to
(22:04):
lift through that. It's happened in many countries throughout history,
including this one in the thirties.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I don't even want to think about that. O don't either.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
It's too horrifying. Yes it is, here's one for you. No,
I'm not even gonna say it.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's too nightmarish. No, I can't.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Wow, you've come up with a night Does it include
a radiation and a lizard getting really tall and smashing
buildings with its feet?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
How'd you know in subway trains?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
No, here it is.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And I think about this more than I should. Where's
your money? I'm asking everybody it's held in this account,
that account, unless you got gold bars buried in your backyard.
China has already hacked into our various financial systems, and
they just either wipe everybody's books clean or render it
(23:07):
impossible to transfer funds electronically in any way.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
For years.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I don't know if it have to be years. I
don't even know how many days it would have to
be before things would get really crazy.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I mean we had both, We and many many folks
listening have been working their entire lives and saving and
doing the right things. But I don't know about you.
My money is essentially being held in little zeros and
ones sure on a server symptoms right exactly. I can
call up you know this and then Charles Schwaber whoever's
(23:43):
got you know this chunk of my money and say, hey, dudes,
just last week you had X amount of my money.
I need some of it now. And they're like, if
it's not on this screen, don't funny thing about that. Yeah, yeah,
I hear what you're saying. And yet the Chinese act
into our computers, so I don't know if you've got
one hundred bucks or one hundred million bucks, good luck
(24:05):
with that click.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You think they'd hang out with it so well, they're
tired of taking calls from people like me. They're fed up.
How about years?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
But a guy, if that, if that lasted a week,
the panic you would have in the country, Oh what
do you do?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I mean, back in the thirties, you'd have a run
on the bank. Literally people would line up outside the
bank and demand their money because they were afraid their
deposits wouldn't be there because of the way banks work.
We all know that, right now, what are you gonna do.
You're gonna stand there screaming at your.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
Laptop, thread it with a ball, bath money your bathroom,
start pounding on it, go to their corporate headquarters and
chant with a few of your friends.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
How much less.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Prepared are we individually for a global catastrophe now than
when we're in nineteen twenty nine, Like if you've read
the Grapes of Wrath, I mean, it was obviously a
very very ugly situation. But I saw the numbers the
other day. It's something like forty percent of people made
their living something adjacent to farming. Now it's ero point
three percent or something like that. I'm not raising any
(25:06):
crops or animals currently. Yeah, And so as soon as
the shelves go bear the on the store, which might
be that afternoon in a global catastria, I can't feed myself.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Then that that's where you know, we've always thought this
was coming.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
We both get in the gym and stuff, but I'm
not sure I'm hearty enough for the Apocalypse Cannibal in
my life. Yeah, well yeah, and I am delicious. Anyway,
that's enough of that. I told you it was too
horrifying to bring up. I wish I hadn't. So what
would happen if the Supreme Court says, yeah, yeah, you
can't just assign a ten percent extra terrifying Canada because
(25:43):
you're annoyed by a TV commercial. Please, what happens to
all those trade deals? Some countries would almost certainly walk
away from their agreements or renegotiate them. Some countries might think,
you know, it's a decent enough deal. Seat President could
go to Congress to say, hey, we got to put
(26:03):
these trade deals into law. So now that I don't
have the power to just you know, declare them well.
President could also hire his lawyers to say, all right,
claim you can do tariffs on this pretext, and it's
possible the courts would let him for a while until
(26:24):
the Supreme Court answers that question. Remember, the Supreme Court
doesn't rule on cases, it settles questions.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
But there's also the issue from what I've read that like,
maybe you paid five thousand dollars extra for a new car,
then you would have if the tariffs didn't exist.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
And you should get that money back? Who has it?
Where'd it go? How that whole thing get worked out?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Chinese hacked into it? He can't get it anyway? Eh, boy,
that'll be fun. Is there any chance of Supreme Court
makes some sort of sort of ruling where we're so
far down the road of this, it's so intermingled and complicated.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
We got a nah that that's a bad way to
go to look at it.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Yeah, you can't stick with a bad idea that was
illegal just because you're too far down the road.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Right, It'd be like Joe Biden saying, Look, I've been
running the graft game so long. My entire family depends
on it. You can't bust us now in the court
saying yeah, all those grant and.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
My son's walking around hotels naked with guns. I mean,
ye got right? Right?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Uh Yeah, that's that's unlikely. You know what, I'd love
to see. It probably won't happen, but like a nine
to o ruling that Look, Congress, do your jobs. We'll
give you us four months to do your damn job.
We've got a ruling here, it's all written out. It's
in this folder. But Congress do something.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Speaking of Congress, Marjorie Taylor Green is one of the
best known Congress people in America.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
She is a Republican. She was on the View yesterday.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
She said some really interesting things. You think Mom Dommy
might be remaking the Democratic Party? Is mt G gonna
remake what Republicans are all about? And Trump might be
with her. And I saw of a Vake Ramaswami today
talking about this populis well, hear a little of this
coming up next to here, Barty.
Speaker 10 (28:17):
I yelled at Mike Johnson last week on our GOP
conference called by the way, I'm missing the call today
it's going on right now, and I hope that Mike
Johnson is finally giving a single health care policy because
the country deserves it, and it shouldn't be a secret,
and I shouldn't have to go into a skiff to
go find our Republican health insurance plan. Very you know
(28:40):
what you want to know something that I.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Believe is the truth.
Speaker 10 (28:43):
There's a lot of ideas, there's a lot of bills,
but there's no consensus, and I think that's a failure.
Speaker 9 (28:49):
I do so.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Marjorie Taylor Green was on the View where She was
received very well because she agreed with a lot of
their populist the what's the right term? I was gonna
say downtrodden, but the masses are getting screwed and need
help from the government. Her whole thing around this shut
(29:11):
down in Obamacare comes from her two kids. We're about
to get booted off the free Obamacare and have to
start paying a lot more. And she thought that was wrong,
and it sounded like because she didn't she said single
health care policy. Did she mean single pay health care policy? Yes,
that's what she meant, as in, she wants to go
(29:33):
full government healthcare. A Republican, one of the more popular,
one of the most maga Republican congress people in America
wants to go single healthcare.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So where are we?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
She has wandered far off the reservation, the Maga reservation.
I don't know what she is right now, Bill Crystal.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
I don't know if you know who Bill Crystal is.
You don't need to know who. All these people are
of a perfectly happy life. But he used to run
the Weekly Standard. His dad was Irving Crystal, one of
the most important conservative thinkers in America in the entire
twentieth century. Bill Crystal said over the weekend he would
vote for Mom Donnie the socialist, So one of the
(30:17):
most important conservative voices who since has gone to Uh,
he's a Bulwark guy, right, And I think he's a
Bullwark guy or is he a Lincoln. He's one of
those groups that hates Trump, loathsome either way. And so
a guy that I watched my whole life on the
Sunday talk shows standing up for conservatism against the mainstream
media and all the nut job liberals now says he
(30:40):
would vote for the communist mayor.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Of New York. Why he lost his mind.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
I didn't hear or read the why, but a lot
of people were interested in the statement he made. But
he's so anti Trump, I mean, he's blinded by his
hatred of Trump to all kinds of things, in my opinion,
But that combined with Marjorie Taylor Green want to go
single payer healthcare system. I don't know where we are.
I don't know where things are. I don't know if
the whole left right thing is going to break down completely,
(31:07):
and then maybe it should and we come up with
a different kind of an alignment.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I don't know what it would be.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, Yeah, I think it would end up being like
really left and slightly less left, like England, which is terrible,
or France or Canada. Yeah, I find myself wanting to
do like an extended segment with Craig the Healthcare Guru,
just because you know, I read so much about our
healthcare system and how crony capitalism has ruined it. The
(31:38):
idea that we are in the mess we're in because
of the free market is the opposite of the truth.
And Obamacare was an unbelievably insidious fix of giving enormous
gifts to various insurance companies and other entities as opposed
to letting the free market work and let consumers choose
(31:58):
their health care and insurance companies are healthcare providers compete
And it's I get discouraged when we're even talking about it,
because there is so much there that a demagogue, whether
it's a a deliberate excuse me, radical like Mumdani or or.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Probably well meaning.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Not genius like MTG, they spout these solutions and people think, yeah, yeah,
that because trying to actually understand what's going on and
then overcome the power.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Of the lobbyists.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
It is just I don't know, that's like climbing three
mount everests stacked on top of each other.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I'm sorry, it's just discouraging.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
It's so screwed up and so important healthcare, I.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Mean, yeah, well just in general, who's out there making
the good argument for fiscal conservatism, traditional republican sort of.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Politics? I mean, is that just completely dead? All of that.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Let's tear apart the crony capitalism and give people the
actual right to choose no, because there are lobbyists lined
up a thousand deep ready to write gigantic checks to
lawmakers to make sure the scam continues. And I'm sorry,
it's so it's so discouraging. I don't mean to be
that way. I really don't.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
It's just a.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Realist and everything sucks and always will and compulsively honest,
and I really need to beat that impulse back to
provide a more entertaining listening product.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I apologize. I'll do better, strong.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Strong.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
In other words, there's a realignment going on that who
knows where it's going to land.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I don't know. Let's see if.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Our host for final thoughts cannot depress this.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Here he is Joe getting this.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Is why you want limited government, because once unlimited government
takes hold the power and complexity of it is impossible
to undue.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Well, sorry, I did it again. I did it again.
Speaker 9 (34:23):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Let's get a final thought from Mike Langelow.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Michael, you know, if China takes over our finances, I'm
going to go through my closet today and look for
things that I could sell.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
We may have to go back to the barn system
or eat. Yeah. How much do you think I can
get for dolphin.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Shorts three r abdominal cavity and see what you can sell.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
You're gonna be selling your spleen.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Huh, Katie Green, are esteem Newswoman?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
As a final thought, Katie, after.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
All of that uplifting stuff, I'll never be able to
look at a today the same way. After the conversation today,
I'm still.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Laughing about it. I got to figure out how to
use that thing.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
It's really not that hard. The risks are low. Jack,
Do you have a final thought for us?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I brought in all the Halloween candy from my house.
We had way too much of it. I've eaten more
candy in the last four days than I had in
the previous year.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Since last Halloween, probably I.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Mean, I just can't walk by a bag of Hershey
Kisses and not pop one in my mouth. I'm not
capable of doing it. I brought in all the Halloween candy.
Enjoy everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I'll let the preceding depressing crap be my final thought.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Again, I apologize.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
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Speaker 4 (35:38):
Okay, we'll see how this argument goes on. The whole
tariff thing. That could be a giant news story. We'll
see you tomorrow. God bless America.
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