November 6, 2025 • 40 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- NFL kicking practice
- Bingo, Bango, Bongo
- Nick Fuentes on Tucker vs. The Heritage Foundation
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Katty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and get cat and no he Armstrong and
Yetty sixty eight yards away. It's up there, it's out there,
and it's gone. It's gone from sixty eight.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
What nobody cab moddle Cam's up big to be kidding me.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Not very many years ago nobody would have attempted a
sixty eight yard field goal.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
No, that's like a kickoff. Yeah, that's amazing. You know,
it's a tangent. But executive producer Hansen points out that
that call was just okay for the longest field goal
ever kicked in NFL history. Right, And by contrast, here's
nineteen seventy Cliff seventeen, Michael, when the great Tom Dempsey
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set a record that stayed that stood for decades with
a sixty three yarder. We'll try to kick the longest
field goal and that's the league history.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
They're setting him on.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
With two seconds left, start Petty will hold, here's.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
A snap, the ball is down. Depsy kicks. It's all
the way it is.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Stop it shot the state table, the se.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
The stadium as well, the time is run up. The
Saints have one nineteen to seventeen.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Goal, so yeah, that one does. You should whoever that was,
they should be fired. How did they all set that
up with this would be the longest field goal in
the history.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
How do you not set it up like that?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
They may have previously because the added in fairness, but
I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Know what they after it was made is like any
makes it? Wow? Look on, now, give me a little excitement.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
People of our generation familiar with Tom Dempsey was born
with some pretty serious handicaps, including one arm that was
just I think it ended at the elbow, and he
had half a foot and he discovered at some point
in his life that his foot, because he wore a
flattened shoe, was really good for kicking field goals because
they were toe kicking in that day, as we called it.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Anyway, Yeah, wow, that's a much better call. Anyway. That's
all a lead up to this.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
The Wall Street Journal of all publications reporting on what's
actually going on with the incredibly long field goals being
kicked in the NFL right now, and the numbers are amazing.
Nobody kicked a fifty plus yard field goal unless they
had to to win the game because they were desperate.
Now it is routine. Well, they begin the article with
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back in the nineties, Chris Boniole, who was a great
kicker for the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
He won the Super Bowl. Actually as a kicker for
the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
They would get the balls before game day, the kicking
balls k balls they call them.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
If you have k balls, talk to your urologist. Oh yeah,
you can spot them, just so you get a little
light in there discomfort. Yeah, uh, this is news to me,
as used to be a huge NFL fan. I didn't
know they used different balls for kicking than they did
for the rest of the game.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, and punting. Yeah, why would you? Is yin yang
and yin again? So back in the day, Chris would
douse the balls with water, toss them in the dry,
deflate them, good lord, and beat them up pretty good
last night.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah to work. No, I have nothing, nothing at all.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Oh no, don't out, don't don't even if not free
you for your beautiful unborn child, stay away from this anyway.
He would beat his balls up pretty good to work
in the leather. Then he'd over inflate them yep, to
stretch them out, and then.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Stretching it out as the best part.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Then he would then he would get them back into
game inflation and the rest of it. But it made
it way easier to kick, and that kind of stuff stopped.
In nineteen ninety nine, the NFL put an end to
the practice by introducing special new k balls, which were
used exclusively for a kicking punting. The balls were delivered
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directly from the manufacturer to the officiating crew before each game.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
What's the theory behind having a different ball than you
use for the whole for the whole game.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I don't know, Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
And almost the field stole.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
A kicker can practice with it on the sidelines maybe
and have the feel of it.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Well, they had a whole bunch of balls. I know
that you just use everybod he uses the same ball.
It's almost got to be because they wanted more or
longer field goals, because they thought it would be better
for the sport. It almost has to be. Yeah, yeah,
And I think they've they've gone too far now because
it's changed.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It changes the sport.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
If all you have to get to is like the
forty yard line of the other team to guarantee you're
gonna get three points. It's a different sport.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, yeah, interesting, Uh yeah, how why the NFL originally said, yeah,
the kickers can you know, have the footballs and work.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Up a little bit. I don't know, but anyway, so
much stretching this year.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
They this season they received an additional leg up no
pun intended. In April, owners approved to change that now
gives every team sixty so called k balls for the
season and crucially allows them to prepare those footballs before
game day. Now, some actions like submerging the ball in
water or exposing it to high heat are prohibited, but
there's still plenty of things kickers can do top off
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and up and deshinify them.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
How about letting some of the air out of them,
Tom Brady and your clone dog.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, well allegedly. So that's why you're seeing the I mean,
if kickers are better and stronger than they used to be,
like a lot of things in football.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
But yeah, that's why.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
And all sports, that's men's tennis, particularly golf. At some point,
between equipment and people getting stronger, they're going to have
to adjust these sports, I think.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, every sport's got a different set of challenges.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yeah, but to do. What's the technique where you take
something to an absurd limit to show that there is
a limit reductio ad absurdum. If you could make a
ninety yard field goal, that'd be no good. You'd have
to do something right, right.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, Well, team gets to the what would that be
your kicking it from the eighty yard line, So that
would be kicking it from your thirty Yeah, your team
would just have to get to the thirty seven. Then
you'd get points your own thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah. Yeah, that'd be no good and we're at seventy yards.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Now, damn near Yeah, minor problem obviously for the world
in general.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh, I was talking about earlier they or I don't
know as.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
A football fan. Let me argue this point. That's still
a long shot literally and figuratively, and if you miss it,
the opponents get the ball at that spot.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Good point.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So it's a hell of a gamble.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
So today is the anniversary of the first ever college
football game, which turned into a very popular sport, as
we were just discussing, for college and then the pro
football and it's the number one sport in America by far.
The first college football game in the late eighteen hundreds.
Teddy Roosevelt was really into college football. He thought it
was into our manliness. And when they started wearing helmets
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and players stopped dying, he thought we had gotten too soft.
Have you ever read about the great it's really interesting.
He was highly concerned that people were getting all concerned
about the number of college football players that were dying
on the field. It was becoming a regular occurrence, and
t R thought we'd gotten too weak. Why don't you
put a skirt on her? You know that sort of
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thing with the players aren't dying now you can't.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You know, if you.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Look at if you side eye a quarterback, it's a
penalty because they want more scoring.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
And they throw the flag and he cries like a
little girl. In my opinion, they have now he's taunting exactly.
You can't say something mean.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
But people were dying on the field in college and
then they started wearing helmets and changing some rules and
that sort of thing. Anyway, first college football game years ago, No, No,
there was no throwing or carrying the ball, which, man,
if they they took a different game, I'd say, if
the Raiders and Broncos and I, by the way, no
throwing in honor of the first college football game, first
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football game ever. No throwing or carrying the ball? What
am I supposed to do? Now?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, you could not play the game now.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
It was a completely different game. Why you would even
call it?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Was in soccer with an oblong ball or was the
ball round? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Well, fans of the NFL have heard many times about
the invented the forward pass or the first forward pass whatever.
Had nobody just ever was there no rules against it?
And somebody just hadn't thought of heaving the ball forward
and then waited to see if the referee's going to complain.
As far as I know, there's no rule against throwing
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the ball forward, So it go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
You know, it would appear that soccer was invented slash established,
although there are probably ancient versions of it. But in
eighteen sixty three.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
In England and.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Scotland, so soccer wasn't around much longer than So we
took soccer, which was new at the time, and then.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Started boring and stoopid. How about we picked the ball
up in these Euros gave us hands.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Let's use them.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
These Euro's got nothing better to do, apparently we do,
so we got to come up with something little more exciting.
So we almost immediately altered soccer to become the most
popular sport in America. That's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Now the other version's the most popular sport in the world.
Well because they got nothing else to do, apparently.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Okay, I had another comment on the football and the
soccer and the oh for the first forward pass, first
person ever do that, just to pick up the ball
and chuck it forward, and then some guy caught it.
Everybody's like, what the hell was Hey, what are you doing?
And then everybody started doing it.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
This is exciting, stop exactly. That was fun.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Got it out you want to in the final NFL
note because if you're not a sports fan that you're
not interested in this, go back and watch a legendary
football game from even thirty years ago in the nineties.
You'll be bored to tears. He was all about running
the ball over and over and over again. Incremental gains
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just boring compared to now. It's amazing, stretch the field,
big play potential. How big a deal is this whole
flap within the Conservative I don't know if you know
what the term is Republican Party. The Conservatives whatever right
of center with the whole Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuintes anti
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semi racist thing. How big a deal is it? It's
still growing as far as I can tell, as a controversy.
We'll talk a little bit about that coming up, among
other things. Stay here.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
TikTok just announced their first ever awards show and they're
area on two B. TikTok was like, how can we
take something everyone is on and show it on something
nobody is on? Even the CEO too, He was like, yeah,
I gotta figure.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Out how to download to me.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
That is kind of interesting. You're the most popular platform
on planet Earth. You're going to have your words show
on something that I just heard about.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, probably still exist in the US.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Oh that's a good question. Just came across this couple
of things. I've just come across. Some ass hat destroyed
some centuries old art at the met in New York.
Trying to figure out he just got arrested, nineteen year
old What was he protesting? I guarantee it's stupid. Oh yeah,
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they don't have it. I'm sure we'll find out. It
just happened. So another thing that just happened. Before I
get to our news story Russia threatens to send hypersonic
missiles to Venezuela. Oh yeah, Russia and Ukraine. When's the
last time you talked about that. It was the biggest
story in America and Trump with the Peace Dealer and whatnot,
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and we got caught up in the elections, and there
are young men, married with little kids dying today fighting
for their country against Russia in Ukraine, and we have
the luxury of not having to think about it unless
it's in the headlines for some reason.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
For now, I just read another really interesting piece about
the evolving nature of warfare, drones, etc. It's different than
it was three months ago, which is part of the point.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
So the biggest story in America today that we haven't
mentioned for a little while is the Transportation Secretary announcing
they're going to cut ten percent of flights at forty
airports starting tomorrow because of the shutdown. There just aren't
enough workers at the airports, and he thinks they're getting
we're getting into danger territory here where there's going to
be mistakes made and people are going to get hurt.
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The list of airports is out, and not surprisingly, it's
all the big airports. I mean, it's all all of
the airports that everybody uses, and even if you're going
somewhere that doesn't use that airport, your flight is going
to be a mess. Because of the fact that Dallas
and Denver in Chicago and lax and SFO and Salt
Lake sitting everywhere that people connect, it's going to be
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a mess. Forty five hundred flights are expecting to cancel tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
There is not going to be an empty seat in America.
And it's I just find it to believe me.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Obviously, I find it hard to believe that the shutdown
is going to last two more days with this, I
think that's the point. But we'll see.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Well, at least neither party has any interest in what's
good for the American people, and they just want to
gain advantage over the other guys.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I gotta believe the people at the top, especially if
this continues in tomorrow, the people at the top, who's
whoever's itt HAKEM. Jeffries and John thunor whoever whoever's having
the discussions between dwarzecause they look, we got to find
a way out of this. I mean, this isn't good
for anybody with forty five hundred flights. Anseled, well that
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I just can't even imagine what that's going to look
like tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
For what it's worth, having listened to both of them
a lot, Nancy Pelosi as a politician, especially in her prime,
was an A plus. Hakeem Jeffries is a B minus.
He's not nearly as talented as she was.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Very few people are. She was a She is one
of the most talented politicians ever. She was really good.
I hated that she was so good. I mean watched
her and she announced today that she's not running again.
She basically retired today.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Ye bye.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
And Trump called her evil and corrupt. That was his
parting shot. But I hated her politics. But man, she
was good at making her arguments on all the talk shows.
I wish we could come up with someone like that.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Jade Vance, Yeah, except he's a vice president.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I don't know. He's not going to have the long
run like she had of being in the House and
the face of the Democratic Party. How many decades was
she the person to go on the talk shows and
make the argument?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Eleven decades?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
That's right? What did our emailer say? Abraham Lincoln thought
she was quite the milk.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, it means major legislative figure. It's on her his
list of top five major legislative figures.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yes, okay, so I'm going to get into this a
little bit right after the break. Yet another member of
Heritage that's one of the most powerful think tanks in
the world, one of the best funded, has been a
hero to the conservative cause. Pretty much my whole life
kind of gone off the rails in the last couple
of years. Another person resigned because their leader came out
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in support of Tucker Carlson and Nick Foiuentes that podcast
from the other day.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
How big a deal do you think this is? Because
I feel like it's a growing thing still.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I think it's definitely significant. Yeah, it's an important thing
we have to.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Go through on the right.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
We don't know what we're talking about, bringing up to
speed really quickly and what the latest wrinkle is on that.
And it's the best thing that's ever happened to this
Nick Flint's character, I think, because he went from some
people know him to practically everybody knows him very quickly.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Stick around for that.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
If you missed a segment or anything else, get the
podcast Armstrong and Getty on.
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Demand arm Strong and Getty.
Speaker 9 (17:20):
They're always coming up with No, it's not the Jews.
No it's not women, No it's not blacks. It's actually
really complicated. No, if isn't at all. Jews are running society.
Women need to shut the up, Blacks need to be
imprisoned for the most part, and we would live in paradise.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It's that simple. It's literally that simple, and some way
will find that racist. Sorry, it's not done. I have watched.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Probably an hour and a half of the two and
a half hour Nick Flintes Tucker Carlson interview from the
other day. That was Nick Fuentes there, who is already
a pretty big figure, had a million followers on Twitter
and pretty successful influencer on the right with that sort
of talk, but I mean, like his really big after
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Trump's had dinner with him a couple of years back.
So Trump has dinner with Conye and Nick Fuentes. That
was the first time I'd ever heard Nick Fuente's name.
I don't run in those circles, so I'd never heard
of the guy. I only heard about it because the
media went, oh my god, can you believe Trump had
dinner with Nick Fuentes? Who's Nick Fuentez. So then I
had to look into it, and then he kind of
receded in my life. And then there's he Tucker puts
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him on. Tucker has a much bigger following than practically
anybody really, and unless you're Taylor Swift, Tucker gets tens
and tens and tens of millions of views either on
Twitter or on his own platform or on YouTube, depending
on who he's talking to. And he had Nick Foentes
on the other day for a couple hours and let
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him go. Let Nick Flentes few all kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
With no pushback, no, not even probing questions.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
So that's one aspect. I mean, you could still just
kind of shelve that in the Tucker Candice Owens Nick
Flente's world. But then Heritage Foundation, which I remember back
in the day when we used to say love the
people at Heritage, because we did. They were fantastic.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
They were like as.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Typical American conservative as you could get in being involved
in our politics, and one of the most important think
tanks in the world anyway. So some people were going
after Tucker Carlson about having a platforming Nick Flintes and
giving him a bigger voice and everything like that. They
ask Heritage what their position was on it, and the
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guy runs Heritage said, we don't believe in canceling anybody.
Evan Roberts, I think we should name names, Okay, But
he comes out and says, ah, you know, we shouldn't.
We shouldn't. We don't believe in cancel culture anything like that,
even though they've gone after plenty of other people that
they thought ought to be deplatformed or booted out or
not listened to her whatever. For some reason, he was
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really soften Tucker. We'll get to that in just a second.
In specific, but yesterday a Heritage Foundation board member quit
over this whole thing. They were so upset with the
leader of their group coming out and not, you know,
just out and out saying, no, we don't agree with
Tucker Carlson. He shouldn't have had Nick flintees on. All
those things that were said were abhorrent and we in
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no way support any of that. That's not what he did.
So this board member decided to step down. Laurie Cardoza
Moore as her announced her name, she announced she's withdrawing
from the board. And so there's a couple of statements
that were made yesterday that I thought were interesting. First
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of all, the president Roberts, Kevin Roberts, I let you down.
I let and let down this institution, period full stop.
He told attendees yesterday. This is after his this is
his second apology. He's on apology number two here. I
made the mess. Let me clean it up. You can
say you're not going to participate in canceling someone while
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also being clear you're not endorsing everything they've said. You're
not endorsing softball interviews, you're not endorsing putting people on shows.
And I should have made that clear. So he is
on day about day three of apologizing for his original statement.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Right well, and I'm afraid you soft pedaled his original
statement unintentionally. I'm sure it's said, and I'm trying to
find the wording out. I've had it for a week
and I don't know what I've done with it. But
he essentially said anybody criticizing right that interview was being
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a bad American and a bad conservative. And Tucker will
always be our close friend, and we need to point
on our anger at the left and not be attacking
each other. Attacking each other so we're into each other
agreement here, I'm in in each other relationship with Nick
flint As all of a sudden, I don't know about that.
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But actually, the reason I wanted to bring this up
to me the most interesting part of this whole little version.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
So when I was watching the uh.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah, he talked, I'm sorry, he asserted that Heritage would
not bow to the venomous coalition trying to cancel Tucker
over the interview with Fuentes.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
That is unbelievable. Wow, Wow, that is really quite unbelievable
from one of the most i mean buttoned up, seriously
taken conservative organizations in.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
America for decades. Yeah, it's certainly something.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
So do you see that as like capture by You
can't even say it's captured by Trump.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
What was it captured by?
Speaker 10 (23:00):
No?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Trump is the strongest support of Israel in the history
of the American presidents.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
And Nick gents ran, I mean his whole He tried
to get all of his followers to vote against Trump
in this most recent election a year ago yesterday. So
it's not a Trump thing.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
So why does Heritage feel captured by Tucker.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
And Candas and Nick Quentas.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I just think they sense the energy on the young
far right and don't want to violate it. And a
lot of the people in positions like Kevin what's his
face who I just mentioned Roberts. Roberts have been friends
with Tucker for a very long time and are like
a lot of people I admire, utterly befuddled by his
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turn toward weird anti Semitic pro Russian crap. One of
the members of the Anti Semitism the National Task Force
to Combat Anti Semitism, which was a project housed under
the Heritage Foundation, resigned Mark Goldfetter, and his resignation letter
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is eloquent, if I might. When I agreed to join
this effort, it was because I believe that combating anti
Semitism must remain a non partisan moral imperative, one that
transcends politics, ideology, and institutional affiliation. The Jewish people have
too often suffered when fighting hatred became a partisan sport,
and he hoped that it would be better shared decency,
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moral clarity. Unfortunately, the recent decision by Heritage leadership to
defend and even celebrate Tucker Carlson's decision to platform Nick Fuentes,
a figure whose record of overt racism, sexism, and anti
semitism is beyond dispute, makes continued participation impossible. Elevating him
and then attacking those who object is somehow Unamerican or disloyal.
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In a video replete with anti Semitic tropes and dog whistles, No,
less is not the protection of free speech. It is
moral collapsed disguised as courage. Is especially painful at Heritage,
an institution with a historic role in shaping conservative palsy,
would choose this moment to blur the line between worthwhile
debate and the normalization of hate. I've spent much of
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my career defending the principle of free expression, including speech
I personally abhor, but defending the right to engage in
abhorrent rhetoric is not the same as endorsing the platforming
of those who use it to dehumanize others.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Free speech protects the right to speech.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
It does not compel anyone to provide a megaphone for
a Nazi.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, that Nick flents guy. And I don't know how
much he believes this stuff or if he's just latched
onto it and like is making money off of it.
And I mean because yesterday I saw him on something
talking about how Charlie Kirk was a weakling America hater
who deserved to die because he blah blah blah. I mean,
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it's just like what I feel like, You're just like
going out of your way to.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Poke people at this point, angry little basement dwelling in
cell is the vibe.
Speaker 11 (26:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Anyway, I thought this was really interesting. So I'm watching
the Tucker thing and I don't know if I'll make
it through the whole thing or not. It is amazing
how friendly Tucker is to this dude, with no pushback
given this. So at some point during the interview, Tucker says, well,
you attacked me. You've been attacking me for a long time.
And Nick Flinta says you attacked me first, and Tucker said, yeah,
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but I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I'm the sort of person that I want. I want
to talk to everybody.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So I had you on. So I thought that's interesting.
Nick Flint's attacked Tucker. Well here's Tucker yesterday talking about it.
For one, Tucker was doing a podcast. Tucker Carlson said,
for one, Nick had attacked my father, my wife, one
of my children, and he implied that Flintes was a
federal op designed to Tarsane anti Niakon pro realist foreign
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policy people like US tars Is Nazis. But basically, in
the end, I decided Nick Wentes can't be canceled. He's
enormously talented. Anyone who denies that is lying, and he
has a semi coherent kind of position. He's and Tucker
went on to say this, he's the most influential voice
for men under thirty in the United States. I hope
(27:15):
that isn't true. It's it's at least close to true.
That's troubling. But how about the fact that Nick Fantas
went after Tucker's dad, wife and kids by name, and
Tucker was still willing to overlook that because that crowd.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I just I like, I just haven't quite grasped.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
What's going on there.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
We're dealing with a bunch of different people, the whole
that end of the Internet, that whole paranoid, anti Semitic,
weirdly somewhat right wingy Russia friendly, uh you know, Candice
Owens type paranoid conspiracy, just that whole cabal. It's an
(28:05):
enormously profitable grift. And it could be that the Coke
of that decided I'm better off having a comfortable relationship
with the pepsi of this grift than to be openly
at war with each other. It's like, you know, the
Gambino family in New York and the Banano family or whatever,
(28:25):
they avoided war because it was bad for business.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I think there's more than a little bit of that
in this That's kind of the way I took it too.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
It's the only way I could make sense out of it, because,
I mean, you start attacking my not just me. I
mean when you get in if you're in the media
like we are, you get it and you expect it
and it's part of the deal. But you know, you
start naming my kids and stuff like that. I'd get
pretty upset about that. But Tucker's willing to overlook that.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
You make a nice, nice and have a softball interview
in contrast to your brutally bad of interview only weeks
before with Ted Cruz where you lambasted him for supporting
Israel and have said, you know, I hate those people
Christian Zionists more than anybody, more than isis more than Communists,
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more than Islamists, more than anybody.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
That's interesting. I'm sure it pays well. It certainly pays
well for Tucker. I have no idea how much money
Nick Flint is or cand of someone they're making off this,
but I man, I wouldn't want to have to have
the security that these people have. Nick Flint has had.
Was it a knife insureder came in trying to kill him,
died in a shootout with the cops at his house.
I mean, that's kind of lifestyle, is that. I can't
(29:39):
imagine what Tucker's security is, Like wow, I mean it's
probably like practically, you know, your president level security that
he's got.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But that whole crowd and they're interacting with each other,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Know what it is.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Well, here's the good news.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
The right is now in a very serious, somewhat combative
conversation with itself about the whole no enemies to the
right philosophy, which is a variation on the no energy,
no enemies to the left French Revolution thing, and the
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right in America is saying increasingly.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
No, we're not going to put our arm around.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
The lunatics just because they're against the same people we are,
because that weakens our message, it hurts us morally, speaking,
it's just immoral to do.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
We're not doing it in the way that the left
almost never does.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
When was the last time you heard the left, anybody
in the center left seriously criticizing the radical gender crowd
that's perverted and damaged so many of our children. Never
or or Islamism or Marxism. When was the last time
you heard a concern democrat, mainstream democrats saying, yeah, I'm
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for maybe an enhanced social safety net, but central control,
central planning, socialism, communism that's killed way more people in fascism.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
We can't go there. You never hear that on the left.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
By the way, on the it's the Jews Front. I'm
still reading James Joyce Ulysses and fighting my way through it.
I'm at forty eight percent. I'm almost halfway through the book.
It is a it is a tough read. I'm really
enjoying it. But the main character, Leopold Bloom, is Jewish,
and the amount of anti Semitism he runs into in
one day in Dublin going around to bars and work
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and that sort of stuff, and people things people say
behind the back sound exactly like Nick Flint is. That's
one hundred years ago.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
In Dublin.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
It's been around for a very long time that my
life would be great if it weren't for guys like him.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
It's been called the oldest prejudice wild.
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Plan Today The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Katie, Katie the news lady, what does this? We're about
to go.
Speaker 15 (36:26):
It is a farmer who caught an owl trying to
eat his chickens. An owl, an owl, okay, and he
caught the owl. He caught the owl, and he's holding
it throughout the video. He's holding it by its legs.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Holy cow, this fellow was eating my chickens. I'm not
gonna hurt him. I just had to grab him to
get him out of this chicken house.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
And I can't get my.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Finger out of these towns. This is nuts. I got him.
I wish we could be friends. I don't want you
eating my birds.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Who ever saw.
Speaker 11 (37:02):
Okay, this is not permissible. Now fly more, Chai, fly
enough if you go the sorry, give him a stern
talking to. I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
I thought at the end he was gonna snap its
neck or something.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Would I bring a clip like that? Well, the owl
is just gonna come back and eat his chickens. But
I thought it was kind of fascinating.
Speaker 15 (37:27):
Where as soon as the owl flew off, you can
hear all the chickens just go silent.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Oh that is I didn't notice that.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
You hear the incredibly realistic chicken sound effects in the background.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Well, right, those are.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
As a guy I go up to the farm regular
we have We have fresh right out of the bottom
end of a chicken eggs in my fridge right now
because we have so many chickens out at the farm
and Henry likes to make eggs every morning, so they're fresh.
But anyway, lots of chickens, and chickens don't make that
much noise. They make some noise, but that not that
much noise. And that's because the owls around. You got
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a predator. He's hole right there next to you, and
they're all like, ah, get out of her.
Speaker 15 (38:04):
Way.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
To snap an owl's neck, though, don't you have to
find its neck? They're kind of necklace, aren't they.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
And they can turn their head all the way around. Oh,
it's amazing.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Jack Clark kiss tom Sta, Jack and Joe liv go go,
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Speaker 4 (38:24):
It took a long odd save it for my final thought.
Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
to wrap up the day. There is Michael Angelo pressing
the buttons. Michael, what's your final thought?
Speaker 15 (38:35):
I don't have a real final thought, but that owl
clip made me happy, just something about man and dealing
with the wild animal.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I just loved it.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Okay, cool, yeah, good, you know there was a lot
to like there. Here's my final thought. He was a
man who's serious about his work, but a man of
compassion and a sense of humor. Likable fellow Katie Green
or a steam newswoman.
Speaker 15 (38:55):
As a final thought, Katie thinking about the Kim Kardashian
chat GPT situation. If I ever fail at anything, immediately
blaming a chat.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
But oh yeah, good point. Jack is murdered animals that
displaced him.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Jack final thought, I have quite a few, but out
at the farm got animals that get along.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
It's like a Disney film.
Speaker 14 (39:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It took a long time to get that.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
He's had dogs eating birds, and cats eating chickens and
everything that didn't get along. I was out there the
other day there was a big giant dog, a cat,
and a chicken all just standing together and just hanging out,
perfectly happy.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I hope Donald Trump and Chuck Schumer are listening to
this right now. Maybe they can take an example and
already did my final thought.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I like the farmer. I want to be friends. Where
is it? Why is it the word owl? You put
the bee in front of it, and it's not bowl,
it's bold, So a good point. English is the ridiculous language.
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Speaker 2 (40:21):
It's a hustle. Yeah, it's kind of bogus. It's a
wild animal. Joey baby.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Yes, we drank beer.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I tell you what, you got a tiger and two monkeys.
You get a case of beer. You got a party.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Experts tell me all bloody hell is going to break loose.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Okay, then we'll bring this fool in. Your name's not
but three thousand Yoho and that high note.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
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Arm Strong and get cat and no he Armstrong and
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and it's gone. It's gone from sixty eight.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
What nobody cab moddle Cam's up big to be kidding me.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Not very many years ago nobody would have attempted a
sixty eight yard field goal.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
No, that's like a kickoff. Yeah, that's amazing. You know,
it's a tangent. But executive producer Hansen points out that
that call was just okay for the longest field goal
ever kicked in NFL history. Right, And by contrast, here's
nineteen seventy Cliff seventeen, Michael, when the great Tom Dempsey
(01:10):
set a record that stayed that stood for decades with
a sixty three yarder. We'll try to kick the longest
field goal and that's the league history.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
They're setting him on.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
With two seconds left, start Petty will hold, here's.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
A snap, the ball is down. Depsy kicks. It's all
the way it is.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Stop it shot the state table, the se.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
The stadium as well, the time is run up. The
Saints have one nineteen to seventeen.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Goal, so yeah, that one does. You should whoever that was,
they should be fired. How did they all set that
up with this would be the longest field goal in
the history.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
How do you not set it up like that?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
They may have previously because the added in fairness, but
I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Know what they after it was made is like any
makes it? Wow? Look on, now, give me a little excitement.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
People of our generation familiar with Tom Dempsey was born
with some pretty serious handicaps, including one arm that was
just I think it ended at the elbow, and he
had half a foot and he discovered at some point
in his life that his foot, because he wore a
flattened shoe, was really good for kicking field goals because
they were toe kicking in that day, as we called it.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Anyway, Yeah, wow, that's a much better call. Anyway. That's
all a lead up to this.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
The Wall Street Journal of all publications reporting on what's
actually going on with the incredibly long field goals being
kicked in the NFL right now, and the numbers are amazing.
Nobody kicked a fifty plus yard field goal unless they
had to to win the game because they were desperate.
Now it is routine. Well, they begin the article with
(02:57):
back in the nineties, Chris Boniole, who was a great
kicker for the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
He won the Super Bowl. Actually as a kicker for
the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
They would get the balls before game day, the kicking
balls k balls they call them.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
If you have k balls, talk to your urologist. Oh yeah,
you can spot them, just so you get a little
light in there discomfort. Yeah, uh, this is news to me,
as used to be a huge NFL fan. I didn't
know they used different balls for kicking than they did
for the rest of the game.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, and punting. Yeah, why would you? Is yin yang
and yin again? So back in the day, Chris would
douse the balls with water, toss them in the dry,
deflate them, good lord, and beat them up pretty good
last night.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah to work. No, I have nothing, nothing at all.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Oh no, don't out, don't don't even if not free
you for your beautiful unborn child, stay away from this anyway.
He would beat his balls up pretty good to work
in the leather. Then he'd over inflate them yep, to
stretch them out, and then.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Stretching it out as the best part.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Then he would then he would get them back into
game inflation and the rest of it. But it made
it way easier to kick, and that kind of stuff stopped.
In nineteen ninety nine, the NFL put an end to
the practice by introducing special new k balls, which were
used exclusively for a kicking punting. The balls were delivered
(04:37):
directly from the manufacturer to the officiating crew before each game.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
What's the theory behind having a different ball than you
use for the whole for the whole game.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I don't know, Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
And almost the field stole.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
A kicker can practice with it on the sidelines maybe
and have the feel of it.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Well, they had a whole bunch of balls. I know
that you just use everybod he uses the same ball.
It's almost got to be because they wanted more or
longer field goals, because they thought it would be better
for the sport. It almost has to be. Yeah, yeah,
And I think they've they've gone too far now because
it's changed.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It changes the sport.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
If all you have to get to is like the
forty yard line of the other team to guarantee you're
gonna get three points. It's a different sport.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, yeah, interesting, Uh yeah, how why the NFL originally said, yeah,
the kickers can you know, have the footballs and work.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Up a little bit. I don't know, but anyway, so
much stretching this year.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
They this season they received an additional leg up no
pun intended. In April, owners approved to change that now
gives every team sixty so called k balls for the
season and crucially allows them to prepare those footballs before
game day. Now, some actions like submerging the ball in
water or exposing it to high heat are prohibited, but
there's still plenty of things kickers can do top off
(06:03):
and up and deshinify them.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
How about letting some of the air out of them,
Tom Brady and your clone dog.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, well allegedly. So that's why you're seeing the I mean,
if kickers are better and stronger than they used to be,
like a lot of things in football.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
But yeah, that's why.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
And all sports, that's men's tennis, particularly golf. At some point,
between equipment and people getting stronger, they're going to have
to adjust these sports, I think.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, every sport's got a different set of challenges.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yeah, but to do. What's the technique where you take
something to an absurd limit to show that there is
a limit reductio ad absurdum. If you could make a
ninety yard field goal, that'd be no good. You'd have
to do something right, right.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, Well, team gets to the what would that be
your kicking it from the eighty yard line, So that
would be kicking it from your thirty Yeah, your team
would just have to get to the thirty seven. Then
you'd get points your own thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah. Yeah, that'd be no good and we're at seventy yards.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Now, damn near Yeah, minor problem obviously for the world
in general.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh, I was talking about earlier they or I don't
know as.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
A football fan. Let me argue this point. That's still
a long shot literally and figuratively, and if you miss it,
the opponents get the ball at that spot.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Good point.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So it's a hell of a gamble.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
So today is the anniversary of the first ever college
football game, which turned into a very popular sport, as
we were just discussing, for college and then the pro
football and it's the number one sport in America by far.
The first college football game in the late eighteen hundreds.
Teddy Roosevelt was really into college football. He thought it
was into our manliness. And when they started wearing helmets
(08:02):
and players stopped dying, he thought we had gotten too soft.
Have you ever read about the great it's really interesting.
He was highly concerned that people were getting all concerned
about the number of college football players that were dying
on the field. It was becoming a regular occurrence, and
t R thought we'd gotten too weak. Why don't you
put a skirt on her? You know that sort of
(08:23):
thing with the players aren't dying now you can't.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You know, if you.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Look at if you side eye a quarterback, it's a
penalty because they want more scoring.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
And they throw the flag and he cries like a
little girl. In my opinion, they have now he's taunting exactly.
You can't say something mean.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
But people were dying on the field in college and
then they started wearing helmets and changing some rules and
that sort of thing. Anyway, first college football game years ago, No, No,
there was no throwing or carrying the ball, which, man,
if they they took a different game, I'd say, if
the Raiders and Broncos and I, by the way, no
throwing in honor of the first college football game, first
(09:04):
football game ever. No throwing or carrying the ball? What
am I supposed to do? Now?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, you could not play the game now.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
It was a completely different game. Why you would even
call it?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Was in soccer with an oblong ball or was the
ball round? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Well, fans of the NFL have heard many times about
the invented the forward pass or the first forward pass whatever.
Had nobody just ever was there no rules against it?
And somebody just hadn't thought of heaving the ball forward
and then waited to see if the referee's going to complain.
As far as I know, there's no rule against throwing
(09:37):
the ball forward, So it go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
You know, it would appear that soccer was invented slash established,
although there are probably ancient versions of it. But in
eighteen sixty three.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
In England and.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Scotland, so soccer wasn't around much longer than So we
took soccer, which was new at the time, and then.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Started boring and stoopid. How about we picked the ball
up in these Euros gave us hands.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Let's use them.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
These Euro's got nothing better to do, apparently we do,
so we got to come up with something little more exciting.
So we almost immediately altered soccer to become the most
popular sport in America. That's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Now the other version's the most popular sport in the world.
Well because they got nothing else to do, apparently.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Okay, I had another comment on the football and the
soccer and the oh for the first forward pass, first
person ever do that, just to pick up the ball
and chuck it forward, and then some guy caught it.
Everybody's like, what the hell was Hey, what are you doing?
And then everybody started doing it.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
This is exciting, stop exactly. That was fun.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Got it out you want to in the final NFL
note because if you're not a sports fan that you're
not interested in this, go back and watch a legendary
football game from even thirty years ago in the nineties.
You'll be bored to tears. He was all about running
the ball over and over and over again. Incremental gains
(11:07):
just boring compared to now. It's amazing, stretch the field,
big play potential. How big a deal is this whole
flap within the Conservative I don't know if you know
what the term is Republican Party. The Conservatives whatever right
of center with the whole Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuintes anti
(11:29):
semi racist thing. How big a deal is it? It's
still growing as far as I can tell, as a controversy.
We'll talk a little bit about that coming up, among
other things. Stay here.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
TikTok just announced their first ever awards show and they're
area on two B. TikTok was like, how can we
take something everyone is on and show it on something
nobody is on? Even the CEO too, He was like, yeah,
I gotta figure.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Out how to download to me.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
That is kind of interesting. You're the most popular platform
on planet Earth. You're going to have your words show
on something that I just heard about.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, probably still exist in the US.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Oh that's a good question. Just came across this couple
of things. I've just come across. Some ass hat destroyed
some centuries old art at the met in New York.
Trying to figure out he just got arrested, nineteen year
old What was he protesting? I guarantee it's stupid. Oh yeah,
(12:38):
they don't have it. I'm sure we'll find out. It
just happened. So another thing that just happened. Before I
get to our news story Russia threatens to send hypersonic
missiles to Venezuela. Oh yeah, Russia and Ukraine. When's the
last time you talked about that. It was the biggest
story in America and Trump with the Peace Dealer and whatnot,
(13:00):
and we got caught up in the elections, and there
are young men, married with little kids dying today fighting
for their country against Russia in Ukraine, and we have
the luxury of not having to think about it unless
it's in the headlines for some reason.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
For now, I just read another really interesting piece about
the evolving nature of warfare, drones, etc. It's different than
it was three months ago, which is part of the point.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
So the biggest story in America today that we haven't
mentioned for a little while is the Transportation Secretary announcing
they're going to cut ten percent of flights at forty
airports starting tomorrow because of the shutdown. There just aren't
enough workers at the airports, and he thinks they're getting
we're getting into danger territory here where there's going to
be mistakes made and people are going to get hurt.
(13:48):
The list of airports is out, and not surprisingly, it's
all the big airports. I mean, it's all all of
the airports that everybody uses, and even if you're going
somewhere that doesn't use that airport, your flight is going
to be a mess. Because of the fact that Dallas
and Denver in Chicago and lax and SFO and Salt
Lake sitting everywhere that people connect, it's going to be
(14:10):
a mess. Forty five hundred flights are expecting to cancel tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
There is not going to be an empty seat in America.
And it's I just find it to believe me.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Obviously, I find it hard to believe that the shutdown
is going to last two more days with this, I
think that's the point. But we'll see.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Well, at least neither party has any interest in what's
good for the American people, and they just want to
gain advantage over the other guys.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I gotta believe the people at the top, especially if
this continues in tomorrow, the people at the top, who's
whoever's itt HAKEM. Jeffries and John thunor whoever whoever's having
the discussions between dwarzecause they look, we got to find
a way out of this. I mean, this isn't good
for anybody with forty five hundred flights. Anseled, well that
(15:01):
I just can't even imagine what that's going to look
like tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
For what it's worth, having listened to both of them
a lot, Nancy Pelosi as a politician, especially in her prime,
was an A plus. Hakeem Jeffries is a B minus.
He's not nearly as talented as she was.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Very few people are. She was a She is one
of the most talented politicians ever. She was really good.
I hated that she was so good. I mean watched
her and she announced today that she's not running again.
She basically retired today.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Ye bye.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
And Trump called her evil and corrupt. That was his
parting shot. But I hated her politics. But man, she
was good at making her arguments on all the talk shows.
I wish we could come up with someone like that.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Jade Vance, Yeah, except he's a vice president.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I don't know. He's not going to have the long
run like she had of being in the House and
the face of the Democratic Party. How many decades was
she the person to go on the talk shows and
make the argument?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Eleven decades?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
That's right? What did our emailer say? Abraham Lincoln thought
she was quite the milk.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, it means major legislative figure. It's on her his
list of top five major legislative figures.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yes, okay, so I'm going to get into this a
little bit right after the break. Yet another member of
Heritage that's one of the most powerful think tanks in
the world, one of the best funded, has been a
hero to the conservative cause. Pretty much my whole life
kind of gone off the rails in the last couple
of years. Another person resigned because their leader came out
(16:42):
in support of Tucker Carlson and Nick Foiuentes that podcast
from the other day.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
How big a deal do you think this is? Because
I feel like it's a growing thing still.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I think it's definitely significant. Yeah, it's an important thing
we have to.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Go through on the right.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
We don't know what we're talking about, bringing up to
speed really quickly and what the latest wrinkle is on that.
And it's the best thing that's ever happened to this
Nick Flint's character, I think, because he went from some
people know him to practically everybody knows him very quickly.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Stick around for that.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
If you missed a segment or anything else, get the
podcast Armstrong and Getty on.
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Demand arm Strong and Getty.
Speaker 9 (17:20):
They're always coming up with No, it's not the Jews.
No it's not women, No it's not blacks. It's actually
really complicated. No, if isn't at all. Jews are running society.
Women need to shut the up, Blacks need to be
imprisoned for the most part, and we would live in paradise.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It's that simple. It's literally that simple, and some way
will find that racist. Sorry, it's not done. I have watched.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Probably an hour and a half of the two and
a half hour Nick Flintes Tucker Carlson interview from the
other day. That was Nick Fuentes there, who is already
a pretty big figure, had a million followers on Twitter
and pretty successful influencer on the right with that sort
of talk, but I mean, like his really big after
(18:16):
Trump's had dinner with him a couple of years back.
So Trump has dinner with Conye and Nick Fuentes. That
was the first time I'd ever heard Nick Fuente's name.
I don't run in those circles, so I'd never heard
of the guy. I only heard about it because the
media went, oh my god, can you believe Trump had
dinner with Nick Fuentes? Who's Nick Fuentez. So then I
had to look into it, and then he kind of
receded in my life. And then there's he Tucker puts
(18:38):
him on. Tucker has a much bigger following than practically
anybody really, and unless you're Taylor Swift, Tucker gets tens
and tens and tens of millions of views either on
Twitter or on his own platform or on YouTube, depending
on who he's talking to. And he had Nick Foentes
on the other day for a couple hours and let
(18:59):
him go. Let Nick Flentes few all kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
With no pushback, no, not even probing questions.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
So that's one aspect. I mean, you could still just
kind of shelve that in the Tucker Candice Owens Nick
Flente's world. But then Heritage Foundation, which I remember back
in the day when we used to say love the
people at Heritage, because we did. They were fantastic.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
They were like as.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Typical American conservative as you could get in being involved
in our politics, and one of the most important think
tanks in the world anyway. So some people were going
after Tucker Carlson about having a platforming Nick Flintes and
giving him a bigger voice and everything like that. They
ask Heritage what their position was on it, and the
(19:49):
guy runs Heritage said, we don't believe in canceling anybody.
Evan Roberts, I think we should name names, Okay, But
he comes out and says, ah, you know, we shouldn't.
We shouldn't. We don't believe in cancel culture anything like that,
even though they've gone after plenty of other people that
they thought ought to be deplatformed or booted out or
not listened to her whatever. For some reason, he was
(20:11):
really soften Tucker. We'll get to that in just a second.
In specific, but yesterday a Heritage Foundation board member quit
over this whole thing. They were so upset with the
leader of their group coming out and not, you know,
just out and out saying, no, we don't agree with
Tucker Carlson. He shouldn't have had Nick flintees on. All
those things that were said were abhorrent and we in
(20:32):
no way support any of that. That's not what he did.
So this board member decided to step down. Laurie Cardoza
Moore as her announced her name, she announced she's withdrawing
from the board. And so there's a couple of statements
that were made yesterday that I thought were interesting. First
(20:53):
of all, the president Roberts, Kevin Roberts, I let you down.
I let and let down this institution, period full stop.
He told attendees yesterday. This is after his this is
his second apology. He's on apology number two here. I
made the mess. Let me clean it up. You can
say you're not going to participate in canceling someone while
(21:15):
also being clear you're not endorsing everything they've said. You're
not endorsing softball interviews, you're not endorsing putting people on shows.
And I should have made that clear. So he is
on day about day three of apologizing for his original statement.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Right well, and I'm afraid you soft pedaled his original
statement unintentionally. I'm sure it's said, and I'm trying to
find the wording out. I've had it for a week
and I don't know what I've done with it. But
he essentially said anybody criticizing right that interview was being
(21:53):
a bad American and a bad conservative. And Tucker will
always be our close friend, and we need to point
on our anger at the left and not be attacking
each other. Attacking each other so we're into each other
agreement here, I'm in in each other relationship with Nick
flint As all of a sudden, I don't know about that.
(22:14):
But actually, the reason I wanted to bring this up
to me the most interesting part of this whole little version.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
So when I was watching the uh.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah, he talked, I'm sorry, he asserted that Heritage would
not bow to the venomous coalition trying to cancel Tucker
over the interview with Fuentes.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
That is unbelievable. Wow, Wow, that is really quite unbelievable
from one of the most i mean buttoned up, seriously
taken conservative organizations in.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
America for decades. Yeah, it's certainly something.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
So do you see that as like capture by You
can't even say it's captured by Trump.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
What was it captured by?
Speaker 10 (23:00):
No?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Trump is the strongest support of Israel in the history
of the American presidents.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
And Nick gents ran, I mean his whole He tried
to get all of his followers to vote against Trump
in this most recent election a year ago yesterday. So
it's not a Trump thing.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
So why does Heritage feel captured by Tucker.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
And Candas and Nick Quentas.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I just think they sense the energy on the young
far right and don't want to violate it. And a
lot of the people in positions like Kevin what's his
face who I just mentioned Roberts. Roberts have been friends
with Tucker for a very long time and are like
a lot of people I admire, utterly befuddled by his
(23:42):
turn toward weird anti Semitic pro Russian crap. One of
the members of the Anti Semitism the National Task Force
to Combat Anti Semitism, which was a project housed under
the Heritage Foundation, resigned Mark Goldfetter, and his resignation letter
(24:08):
is eloquent, if I might. When I agreed to join
this effort, it was because I believe that combating anti
Semitism must remain a non partisan moral imperative, one that
transcends politics, ideology, and institutional affiliation. The Jewish people have
too often suffered when fighting hatred became a partisan sport,
and he hoped that it would be better shared decency,
(24:29):
moral clarity. Unfortunately, the recent decision by Heritage leadership to
defend and even celebrate Tucker Carlson's decision to platform Nick Fuentes,
a figure whose record of overt racism, sexism, and anti
semitism is beyond dispute, makes continued participation impossible. Elevating him
and then attacking those who object is somehow Unamerican or disloyal.
(24:50):
In a video replete with anti Semitic tropes and dog whistles, No,
less is not the protection of free speech. It is
moral collapsed disguised as courage. Is especially painful at Heritage,
an institution with a historic role in shaping conservative palsy,
would choose this moment to blur the line between worthwhile
debate and the normalization of hate. I've spent much of
(25:12):
my career defending the principle of free expression, including speech
I personally abhor, but defending the right to engage in
abhorrent rhetoric is not the same as endorsing the platforming
of those who use it to dehumanize others.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Free speech protects the right to speech.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
It does not compel anyone to provide a megaphone for
a Nazi.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, that Nick flents guy. And I don't know how
much he believes this stuff or if he's just latched
onto it and like is making money off of it.
And I mean because yesterday I saw him on something
talking about how Charlie Kirk was a weakling America hater
who deserved to die because he blah blah blah. I mean,
(25:54):
it's just like what I feel like, You're just like
going out of your way to.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Poke people at this point, angry little basement dwelling in
cell is the vibe.
Speaker 11 (26:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Anyway, I thought this was really interesting. So I'm watching
the Tucker thing and I don't know if I'll make
it through the whole thing or not. It is amazing
how friendly Tucker is to this dude, with no pushback
given this. So at some point during the interview, Tucker says, well,
you attacked me. You've been attacking me for a long time.
And Nick Flinta says you attacked me first, and Tucker said, yeah,
(26:30):
but I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I'm the sort of person that I want. I want
to talk to everybody.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So I had you on. So I thought that's interesting.
Nick Flint's attacked Tucker. Well here's Tucker yesterday talking about it.
For one, Tucker was doing a podcast. Tucker Carlson said,
for one, Nick had attacked my father, my wife, one
of my children, and he implied that Flintes was a
federal op designed to Tarsane anti Niakon pro realist foreign
(26:55):
policy people like US tars Is Nazis. But basically, in
the end, I decided Nick Wentes can't be canceled. He's
enormously talented. Anyone who denies that is lying, and he
has a semi coherent kind of position. He's and Tucker
went on to say this, he's the most influential voice
for men under thirty in the United States. I hope
(27:15):
that isn't true. It's it's at least close to true.
That's troubling. But how about the fact that Nick Fantas
went after Tucker's dad, wife and kids by name, and
Tucker was still willing to overlook that because that crowd.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I just I like, I just haven't quite grasped.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
What's going on there.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
We're dealing with a bunch of different people, the whole
that end of the Internet, that whole paranoid, anti Semitic,
weirdly somewhat right wingy Russia friendly, uh you know, Candice
Owens type paranoid conspiracy, just that whole cabal. It's an
(28:05):
enormously profitable grift. And it could be that the Coke
of that decided I'm better off having a comfortable relationship
with the pepsi of this grift than to be openly
at war with each other. It's like, you know, the
Gambino family in New York and the Banano family or whatever,
(28:25):
they avoided war because it was bad for business.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I think there's more than a little bit of that
in this That's kind of the way I took it too.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
It's the only way I could make sense out of it, because,
I mean, you start attacking my not just me. I
mean when you get in if you're in the media
like we are, you get it and you expect it
and it's part of the deal. But you know, you
start naming my kids and stuff like that. I'd get
pretty upset about that. But Tucker's willing to overlook that.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
You make a nice, nice and have a softball interview
in contrast to your brutally bad of interview only weeks
before with Ted Cruz where you lambasted him for supporting
Israel and have said, you know, I hate those people
Christian Zionists more than anybody, more than isis more than Communists,
(29:16):
more than Islamists, more than anybody.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
That's interesting. I'm sure it pays well. It certainly pays
well for Tucker. I have no idea how much money
Nick Flint is or cand of someone they're making off this,
but I man, I wouldn't want to have to have
the security that these people have. Nick Flint has had.
Was it a knife insureder came in trying to kill him,
died in a shootout with the cops at his house.
I mean, that's kind of lifestyle, is that. I can't
(29:39):
imagine what Tucker's security is, Like wow, I mean it's
probably like practically, you know, your president level security that
he's got.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But that whole crowd and they're interacting with each other,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Know what it is.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Well, here's the good news.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
The right is now in a very serious, somewhat combative
conversation with itself about the whole no enemies to the
right philosophy, which is a variation on the no energy,
no enemies to the left French Revolution thing, and the
(30:19):
right in America is saying increasingly.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
No, we're not going to put our arm around.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
The lunatics just because they're against the same people we are,
because that weakens our message, it hurts us morally, speaking,
it's just immoral to do.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
We're not doing it in the way that the left
almost never does.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
When was the last time you heard the left, anybody
in the center left seriously criticizing the radical gender crowd
that's perverted and damaged so many of our children. Never
or or Islamism or Marxism. When was the last time
you heard a concern democrat, mainstream democrats saying, yeah, I'm
(31:00):
for maybe an enhanced social safety net, but central control,
central planning, socialism, communism that's killed way more people in fascism.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
We can't go there. You never hear that on the left.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
By the way, on the it's the Jews Front. I'm
still reading James Joyce Ulysses and fighting my way through it.
I'm at forty eight percent. I'm almost halfway through the book.
It is a it is a tough read. I'm really
enjoying it. But the main character, Leopold Bloom, is Jewish,
and the amount of anti Semitism he runs into in
one day in Dublin going around to bars and work
(31:36):
and that sort of stuff, and people things people say
behind the back sound exactly like Nick Flint is. That's
one hundred years ago.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
In Dublin.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
It's been around for a very long time that my
life would be great if it weren't for guys like him.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
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Speaker 4 (31:52):
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It is a farmer who caught an owl trying to
eat his chickens. An owl, an owl, okay, and he
caught the owl. He caught the owl, and he's holding
it throughout the video. He's holding it by its legs.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Holy cow, this fellow was eating my chickens. I'm not
gonna hurt him. I just had to grab him to
get him out of this chicken house.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
And I can't get my.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Finger out of these towns. This is nuts. I got him.
I wish we could be friends. I don't want you
eating my birds.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Who ever saw.
Speaker 11 (37:02):
Okay, this is not permissible. Now fly more, Chai, fly
enough if you go the sorry, give him a stern
talking to. I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
I thought at the end he was gonna snap its
neck or something.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Would I bring a clip like that? Well, the owl
is just gonna come back and eat his chickens. But
I thought it was kind of fascinating.
Speaker 15 (37:27):
Where as soon as the owl flew off, you can
hear all the chickens just go silent.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Oh that is I didn't notice that.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
You hear the incredibly realistic chicken sound effects in the background.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Well, right, those are.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
As a guy I go up to the farm regular
we have We have fresh right out of the bottom
end of a chicken eggs in my fridge right now
because we have so many chickens out at the farm
and Henry likes to make eggs every morning, so they're fresh.
But anyway, lots of chickens, and chickens don't make that
much noise. They make some noise, but that not that
much noise. And that's because the owls around. You got
(37:59):
a predator. He's hole right there next to you, and
they're all like, ah, get out of her.
Speaker 15 (38:04):
Way.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
To snap an owl's neck, though, don't you have to
find its neck? They're kind of necklace, aren't they.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
And they can turn their head all the way around. Oh,
it's amazing.
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Speaker 4 (38:24):
It took a long odd save it for my final thought.
Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
to wrap up the day. There is Michael Angelo pressing
the buttons. Michael, what's your final thought?
Speaker 15 (38:35):
I don't have a real final thought, but that owl
clip made me happy, just something about man and dealing
with the wild animal.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I just loved it.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Okay, cool, yeah, good, you know there was a lot
to like there. Here's my final thought. He was a
man who's serious about his work, but a man of
compassion and a sense of humor. Likable fellow Katie Green
or a steam newswoman.
Speaker 15 (38:55):
As a final thought, Katie thinking about the Kim Kardashian
chat GPT situation. If I ever fail at anything, immediately
blaming a chat.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
But oh yeah, good point. Jack is murdered animals that
displaced him.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Jack final thought, I have quite a few, but out
at the farm got animals that get along.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
It's like a Disney film.
Speaker 14 (39:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It took a long time to get that.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
He's had dogs eating birds, and cats eating chickens and
everything that didn't get along. I was out there the
other day there was a big giant dog, a cat,
and a chicken all just standing together and just hanging out,
perfectly happy.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I hope Donald Trump and Chuck Schumer are listening to
this right now. Maybe they can take an example and
already did my final thought.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I like the farmer. I want to be friends. Where
is it? Why is it the word owl? You put
the bee in front of it, and it's not bowl,
it's bold, So a good point. English is the ridiculous language.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
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There so many people and thanks so a little time.
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(40:13):
reason my cereal bowel see tomorrow, God bless America audio smofho.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
It's a hustle. Yeah, it's kind of bogus. It's a
wild animal. Joey baby.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Yes, we drank beer.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I tell you what, you got a tiger and two monkeys.
You get a case of beer. You got a party.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Experts tell me all bloody hell is going to break loose.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Okay, then we'll bring this fool in. Your name's not
but three thousand Yoho and that high note.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Thank you all very much, Armstrong and Getty
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