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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And I took the path less traveled by and that
has made all the difference. What a load of crap.
It's one more thing.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Label this. Jack spits on the classics.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I spit on people who don't understand the classics. I've
done this before. I got to do it again. I
feel like I need to do it every couple of years.
I'll get to that. This very erudite podcast coming up
in just a little bit, but first I want to
I don't even know what that word means. So fancy
kind of uh uh. This is maybe a little longer
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than it needs to be, but well, you got something
better to do. This is uh, somebody being funny about
British band names. Some of these are pretty hilarious. Here
it is.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I feel like all British indie bands have the same
type of name, you know, They're all like, Hi, We're
hell Sinky Border Patrol and this is our debut single,
getting Tipsy with Rita, Hi with the Inquisitive Night Towels
And this is our debut single Drowning in the Simple Times. Hi,
We're the Curious Architects and this is our debut single.
Library cards and cash receipts were Grandad's New Haircut, and
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this is our debut single, love Letters to Know Where Land.
We're Magpies with Diplomas and this is our debut single,
Remote Controls and Magazines. We're Academic Whiskey Garden and this
is our debut single, Searching for Trolley Change. We're a
Full Moon Garden Party and this is our debut single,
January's Regrets. We're Statues in Munich and this is our
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debut single. Gregory was a simple Man with the Candle
Makers and this is our debut single. Kevin was a
city dweller. We're Japanese Trousers and this is our debut single,
Lampshade and the Sky.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Japanese Trousers might be my favorite band. They're all great,
but they're perfect. Grandpa's Haircut, full Moon Garden Party. Eh,
those are good names right there. Pipes with the plumbers. Okay,
A something so came across.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
So that reminds me. You know, I was going to
bring this up to you off the air. You haven't
seen the Devot documentary on Netflix, have you? No, I
got to bring this up to my son. They were
for years and years a dead serious and were as
a band when We came to know Devo back in
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the eighties. They were an art project that sincerely believed
human beings were de evolving. They were formed on Kent
State in the early seventies during the Vietnam protests when
the kids were shot dead by the National Guard. It
was a militantly serious art collective trying to protest American life.
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They're they're staunchly anti American at that time and in general,
in that way lefty artists tend to be. They concentrate
on their own society, which is absolutely the right, but
point out all of its flaws and helps bad and
stupid it is. They don't take a lot of time
on oh shit, so are the rest of societies around
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the world, and they pretend that America is uniquely flawed.
Really interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Devo had one big hit well, Whip It.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Whip was huge, and their version of Satisfaction was a
pretty big hit too.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Anyway, again, my same thing I said before, art ain't
it something? So I came across this poem a little
bit earlier, go into two poems road. This one I
had never heard before. I guess. It's a November poem
fairly famous by someone named Gwendolyn Brooks called the Crazy Woman.
This is a serious poem. I kind of liked it.
I shall not sing a May song. A May song
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should be gay. I'll wait until November and sing a
song of gray. I'll wait until November. That is the
time for me. I'll go out on the frosty dark
and sing most terribly, and all the people will stare
at me and say, that is the crazy woman who
will not sing in May. I don't know what that means,
but I guess it's a famous November poem.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
She likes throwing on sweaters and ugs in the fall.
I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
To something different than the one I was teasing. And
I've done this many times over the years. I didn't
know this originally. I have misused the phrase I have
taken the road less traveled by, and that has made
all the difference. I've misused it like most people have.
It is the complete opposite of what Robert Frost meant
in the poem. How it caught on and he himself.
So this poem was written in nineteen sixteen. You're familiar
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with this poem, Katie. I think everybody's known this at
least the ending of the poem everybody knows, and written
in nineteen sixteen, and there are interviews Crackley interviews. Here
he says, I pamel are stupid. They don't understand, they
didn't read it closely or whatever. The poem is the
exact opposite of it's making, the opposite point of the
way people take it. This is the one with the
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raven saying nevermore. Right, No, there has no raven in it. Not.
I'll just read a little bit, because it's fairly long.
I'll read to the beginning in the end two from Nantucket.
All right, now, I'll shut up. Now, I will shut up.
It starts this way here I sit broken hearted. No,
that's not the way it starts. Two roads diverged in
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a yellow wood, and I sorry, I could not travel both,
And being one traveler long, I stood and looked down
one as far as I could to where it bent
in the undergrowth. And then the ending is somewhere ages
and ages. Hence I will be telling this with a sigh.
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the
one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference.
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And it has been repeated forever as if, like you know,
you don't take the common path everybody else takes, man
you take the more difficult, harder, not as used path,
and that it makes all the difference your life. And
it's the exact opposite of what he was intending. And
if you read it even slightly closely, he makes the
point that both pads go to the same place and
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are roughly of the same difficulty, and you'll end up
on the same spot either path you take. And then
people look back on their lives and pretend that they
made these bold choices when they could have gone this
way or that's way just as easily, and they took
one and it worked out or whatever, and now they
give themselves all kind of credit for being some bold,
brave person.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
So he is making fun of himself in the future.
Makes me a big deal of.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It, Yes he is, which is really interesting given the
fact that it's life. The reason it's so popular is
people taking it well wrong. I can't say literally, since
it's literature and the author is saying you're not. But anyway,
if you understand my point, it is repeated. You'll hear
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all the time efforted a thousand times in my life
about I took the you know, the pathless pavot or
the road to list PATHN, and that traveled and that
has made all the difference. But he said, no, people
give themselves way too much credit for going this way
rather than that, when you could have gone either way,
and who knows how it would have turned out. That's
his point.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I wonder if he ever read the poetry of one
Robert Plant of Northern England, who said, there are two
paths you can go by, but in the long run,
there's still time to change the road you're on, which
is more to his point. You know, either way you're
going to adjust your sales and do what right probably
ought to do or a good at doing, or feels
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like the right thing to do. It'll just be kind
of a different route to get there.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, this kind of fits, maybe it doesn't. But you
brought this up the other day, and I spent a
lot of time thinking about this because I got two
teenagers and one who's a halfway through his sophomore year
of high school. The whole trying to plan out what
you're going to do with your life. Who do you know,
there are some people that know they want to go
to medical school, like I have a niece like this,
who know they want to go to medical school, like
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when they're fourteen and they study that sort of stuff
and they'd get that there undergrad and they go to
medical school and they become a doctor and blah blah blah.
But almost everybody else I know in my life, if
you you look at the point they're at here in
the starting point, and there's like no logical way you
end up where.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You are, right, or it's certainly not obvious. Here's here's
a poll I'd like to see.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
In other words, you adjust your sales on the.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Path, right, Yeah, Well, for one, you have so much
to learn. I would love to see this poll of uh,
ask thousands millions of people, what do you do for
a living? Now? Had you even heard of that when
you were seventeen? Did you know that that job existed? Now?
(08:44):
A certain number of people would say yes, but it
would be far far lower than one hundred percent, is
my point.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Anyway I would sixteen seventeen year old you have had
any interest in doing that?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
That a good one, That's a real good one. Yeah,
I know, somebody this is a a stray tangent. I know,
somebody who's in line to be an assistant, like a
well assistant, that's a good word for a super rich dude,
like insanely rich dude, like one of the richest people
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in America. They just need somebody to take care of
their stuff, like all kinds of different things, like you know,
everything from book a flight to I need a new car,
or just everything that goes on in their life. And
they're interviewing and they're like, way, way way up toward
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getting this job, and it sounds like it would be fascinating.
Oh yeah, it's just traveling with him and like, you know,
I gotta go to Vegas for a meeting, and so
you travel with him in Vegas on the private plane.
But you got to figure out how you're going to
get to the hotel into the conference and where the
rooms are and the meal and just all the stuff
has to be worked out by this person. Wouldn't that
be an interesting job?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Oh yeah, if you're a buttoned up sort.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, this person is very very much that sort. I'd
be the wrong person for the job.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
We're gonna be eight o'clock at night, So where are
we sleeping tonight? Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Sleeping? Wow? I should have seen that coming.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Give me a minute, Give me a minute, It'll be
cool it, give me a minute.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Anyway. I hope they get the job, just because I'd
like to hear the stories of traveling around the world
with this person. And you know, I'm in the mood
for fish, get and figure out where I can eat fish.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You know, whatever guaranteed they sign an NDA, Now, they
might whisper a little thing or two into ear.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
This guy's really old. He's like, he's like an eighty
old super gazillionaire.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
The Warren Buffett I by, I can't definitely can't say.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, okay, it's Warren Buffett anyway. No, he's like ninety four,
isn't he. I don't know, uh anyway, Um.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
He took the road less travel though, and that has
made all the difference. That's why he got so rich.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
How funny. I think that might be like a ninety
five percent a misinterpretation rate rate of that poem, no doubt,
which makes it a sucky poem. Somebody how to tell
Robert Frost you suck nice poem, dumb ass.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I've taken that road less traveled and ended up in
some bad neighborhood. No kidding, I should have should have
taken the road more traveled.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, thanks Apple Maps.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Well I guess that's it.